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Ep. 6 My Banger, Your Skip · The Group Chat

• Carson: Hey everybody, I'm Carson. Paulina: I'm Paulina. Brandon: and I'm Brendan. Carson: Welcome to the group chat. Today we're gonna talk about music. I we've got a lot of interesting insights for y'all. Paulina: ⁓ Carson: I mean, I don't know about y'all, for me, it's weird to go full 24 hours without listening to music. That's like, it's a weird day for me. I mean, I must be really in my head and my thoughts. Just not where I want to be for too long. I don't think any of us like to just dwell on things, right? So music just gives me that moment to like, if I'm having a really busy day, I could just take a little side quest, take a little break. So I need it every day. Give it to me. Paulina: Yeah, I agree with that. For me, it's also very difficult to just go on and just go about my day without actually listening to something. And even more so when I'm driving, like, I don't know what type of psychopaths, what type of crazy people drive without any music. I know some people like to do that, but it's very shocking to me. Carson: I know who does that, the people who still wear the masks. Brandon: Strange people. Carson: Yeah. I mean, come on, think they're jamming? They're so afraid of everything? Music? You can't park if you have the music up too loud. That's terrifying. We all turn the music down when we try to park, so... It's funny. What is that? Brandon: You gotta concentrate, gotta concentrate. Paulina: Because we can't sing. I can't sing when the music is on too loud. No, it's true. That's what I do too. Carson: It's funny, but fucking true. Brandon: I don't need, I don't need the music. I don't need to listen every single day like you, but I have to be in the mood. Like, so whenever I'm leaving, if I'm going to the gym or going to play tennis or whatever, like I have to have my music or sometimes like leaving work. Well, I don't know. I don't need a podcast. need music. Carson: So goodbye. Jim music, absolutely. The music they play, they blast rather, is like usually Miss. Sometimes it's hit, but I'm not taking those chances. just bring my headphones out. I don't know what kind of Rammstein or whatever. Maybe, I mean, I can jam. I can groove to that, like one or two songs, not the whole album. So. Brandon: Rammstein. Paulina: Yeah, so what do you guys groove to? Like, what is your jam? For working out, let's start with working out maybe. Carson: Working out. I mean, I think for the last year or two, it's been primarily electronic music, any genre of dubstep, electronic, trance. mean, there's so many, can't even keep track of exactly the name of the type of music I'm listening to, but basically if I can dance to it, it's high enough energy to keep me going in the workout when I'm feeling, especially after a set or something, I'm just like dead. Well, at least the music just keeps me like, okay. We got more, we got more, we got more. The song's still going. The energy's still going. So, Brad, what about you? What are you, what are you grooving to? Brandon: That's interesting. That surprised me. wasn't expecting that, but no, not at all. Well, unfortunately, when I go to the gym, I'm with a group of people. So like it's a very small gym and we put on music and we all have to listen. And so pretty much it's always Spanish music. It could be like indie music or pop or whatever they're feeling that day. It's like, don't really care. It's like whatever. As long as something's on like it can't be silent. As long as there's something in the background, like I'm good. But it's usually. Carson: Really? Brandon: Not the best workout music at all. Paulina: Thank Carson: at all. Paulina: to the gym much so I don't really have much to say. Brandon: Yeah. If you were to go to the gym, what would you listen to? Paulina: No, I mean, I used to go to the gym more. funny enough, I actually listened to a lot of like rap and hip hop and sort of like Cardi B, Nicki Minaj, that type of vibe because it gets me like, yeah, I want to have a big booty like that, you know? Not possible. I'm fricking little white girl, but it gets you going, you know? Carson: CUT IT Paulina: I think about that and I'm like, yeah, like that's, that's, that's my jam. Yeah. Carson: Motivated, it's motivating for you. Okay. I like it. That's my other go-to is obviously hip hop, rap, and the gym, and also for driving. A little less electronic driving, just cause I want to not get speeding tickets. I ⁓ gotta be a little bit more attentive, but yeah. Rap, hip hop, electronic, for gym. High energy, something that like has... Brandon: Interesting. Carson: a nice beat and... don't know, I I try to listen to everything I want to listen to more like newer music but I end up just putting on my playlist and shuffle and whatever. Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: Gotta stay with the classics. Carson: You know? So... ⁓ yeah? Paulina: That surprised me though, Carson. The electronic, I don't know, like the dubstep electronic. Are we talking about like, Skrillex type of thing? Carson: Not, not hardcore dubstep. can, we can go from house, which is way more chill, vibey to something a little bit harder, maybe for a workout. Like there, there's definitely levels to it to where like you can listen to it. Like it could be more easygoing and you can just kind of be, you know, catching a vibe. Whereas you can be going hard in the club, like losing your freaking mind. Brandon: He Carson: That's not exactly where I always stay because I do need to change it up. I don't like listening to like the same genre, even in one hour session of working out. Like I do try to like the shuffle. Now I'm just finding that I do need to go through my playlist and diversify it because it's all pretty hardcore electronic. You know, okay, well, what's the next one on here? And it's like, much, too much. But yeah, I mean, I like to dance and sometimes I find myself on the weekends just with this little extra energy. And so that's kind of how it just accumulated in my, in my playlist. And I think it's great. love it, but it's not always, it's not something you can always listen to. But since the gym, the gym is a place where I go, you know, at least two or three times a week, I listen to it a lot. Paulina: No, for sure. Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: Yeah. Carson: And then driving is kind of more like, need something, but I don't really care what it is. don't not care what it is, but I don't care as much. I don't have as much freedom to change it. ⁓ like, like if I'm working out and I could take a break and ⁓ a quick search. What did you think I listened to? Paulina: I don't know. I didn't expect that. No, not really. Carson: Country music, my country, because I'm from Georgia. Brandon: All right, it was just surprising something different something we weren't expecting I even though I kind of knew about it, but I wasn't sure but yeah, cuz I've heard you've obviously said something about it in past but Carson: some hick shit. Paulina: Yeah. Carson: Yeah. Yeah. Paulina: Like I think house music I would expect, I think like house music is quite chill, but I wouldn't expect like electronic and dubstep and all of that. Like, I don't know. I think of that, like people go into crazy raves, you know? I don't know if you're, if you go into raves, mean, probably. Brandon: That's Carson. Carson: ⁓ Not like if there's levels like I was saying, I don't go to the craziest raves and I don't always go to raves but I do like to go to the club. I do like to go to raves depending on who's playing obviously. Like I do have to screen the music first. I would have just say, yeah, sure. Let's go spend the money and be at a place for hours with a bunch of freaking strangers who are sweaty and on whatever kinds of drugs. unless I'm gonna... Paulina: Yeah. Carson: at least somewhat enjoy the music. So, yeah, but yeah, it's fun. Also, when you're in that environment, you just, there's that sense of unity, togetherness, everybody's vibing. ⁓ I'm not one to be, to like, or to really enjoy being shoulder to shoulder with people and not having any space to operate. ⁓ But at the same time, if you can... If you're able to let yourself go and just be in the moment, it's a nice feeling. It's a cool feeling to experience at least once in your life, to be at a rave and just forget about all the bullshit and just be in the moment. It's cool. It's a vibe. Paulina: Don't, that's my style of music. No! Carson: We're going to do it. That's what we're doing. Group chat outing. We're going to go to Ibiza and just let loose. Come on. Brandon: That'd be interesting. Carson: All right, you said yes, so we're going, great. Brandon: Next week, next episode. Paulina: I'm gonna do a live from Ibiza. Carson: ⁓ that'd be cool. There's a club there. There's a club there. And they have, mean, there's a, there's a club, like clubs within a club. They have different stages and one of the many clubs is in the bathroom. Yeah. There's stalls like all the way on either side of it. And in the middle, there's a bar and a DJ booth and it's just AC and you know, it sounds like smelly, it's just not for some reason. It's very well ventilated and Paulina: response yourself to therapy. Thank Yeah. Brandon: I'd hope so. Carson: Yeah, yeah, don't worry. And plus most of these people are like on so many drugs like they're not even using the bathroom. And if they're going to the bathroom, you know what they're doing in bathroom. So, okay. I mean. Paulina: you Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: Yeah, I'm not worried about that. I think I'm just worried about all this sweat and stickiness and... Carson: That's just, I'm just trying to give you an idea of the insanity within this one building. That's one club. And then you have other stages, which are pretty big. mean, some of the rooms are pretty big. And so there can be, I don't know, there had to have been four or five main stages. So you have four or five artists at a time. And then they're just rotating throughout the night from whatever to whatever in the morning. Cause I don't think they stop until probably four or five, six in the morning. Paulina: Yeah. Carson: but crazy. ⁓ yeah, and a Heineken is like 15 euros, so no big deal. Ugh, fucking terrible. Paulina: Nevermind. ⁓ okay. Brandon: Sounds amazing sounds amazing Carson: And warm. If you want a warm 15 year old Heineken, this is where you could go. I'm not going to say the name of the place, you know who you are. Brandon: Thank Paulina: That actually reminds me of place in New York called Webster Hall, which you would have different levels. ⁓ Brandon: you Paulina: different floors with different types of music. So in the basement they usually would have like rap and hip-hop. On the main floor you would enter and it would be like the general sort of like, I don't know, pop, dance, whatever type of music. And then you would go to other floors and they would have electronic music, house music, and whatever. And then you would get a little bit more like a grungy vibe in certain other rooms. So when you said that, that's the first thought that I had. Carson: Mm-hmm. Those are cool. Yeah, I've been to places like that. I think there was a place in Prague that I went to like that. Different genres and different rooms, different levels. It was different levels, like you said. That's always cool. That's good. ⁓ And if you don't like what's going on in one, you just check out another and whatever. That way you're not glued to one room where everybody's like, what's up? You can move around. Brandon: cool definitely cool. Paulina: for sure. Brandon, what about you? What's the type of music that you normally listen to, that you vibe with? Carson: So yeah. Brandon: I was just thinking about this when you're talking about it like car to say like the type of music you listen to when you're driving And I was thinking I'm definitely the meme of like the people going to work all dressed up nice in their suit or whatever Like when they leave work, they see they're driving away with I listen to two-part. That's that's that's that's me After day at work you gotta Exactly Carson: First off, like Brandon like windows up, ⁓ AC on, peels out, down, there you go. It's like, ⁓ get the fuck. Paulina: No. Brandon: No, no, windows down. You gotta let everyone hear it. Exactly. Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: Even like last night I was telling you, we got back from Madrid and so like Danny was there. He's still waiting with some of the students but waiting for their parents to come and pick them up. And so I left because I had to come back to Murcia. So I went, got in my car, put up some joiner Lucas and I drove by windows down. They're just looking. It's like I'm out. Carson: Joiner Lucas, yes. Thanks to you, I've been, I've been grooving to Joiner Lucas for a year or two now. He's pretty good. Yeah. Do you know him? Probably not. You got to check him out. He's good. He's solid. His, his lyrics have weight. Like it's not just empty rap. Like so much. There was a period of time where just crap rap was coming out, like mumble rap, that type of, it's not like that. He actually, he thinks about it. Brandon: Join us quietly. Paulina: No? Brandon: See, Alright. Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: Independent, I think he's from maybe from Baltimore up in that area. Paulina: Thank Carson: I was going say, it's from DC or that area. Brandon: Somewhere around there in that area. Yeah. No, he's really Yeah, and like his videos his videos are like our movies like they're nice like his quality everything like you said the lyrics production good stuff Paulina: It's also from the interest. You guys gotta send me a link after that. ⁓ Brandon: Alright guys. I think after today we're gonna be sharing a lot of music with each other, even though we already know more or less, but I think now we're gonna see a little bit more. I like, oh, I gotta listen to this. Carson: Yeah, I it. It's true. That's what I feel like. I don't know. Did y'all ever share a lot of music? I'm trying to think back to a time where, how did we share music? And I mean, I'm just surprised that people don't share more music now. I know you can make your playlist public, right? And you can, you can technically make a playlist and share it, but like how many people do that? Paulina: Yes. Yes. Brandon: Yeah. No, not so many but like back in the day like middle school making mixed CDs that was me That was me Carson: That's what it was. We burn CDs, mixtapes. What mixtapes? That's true. Yeah. ⁓ Paulina: Yes. Or if you guys remember, this was a little bit later, when you had an iPod and you would walk back from class with your friend with an iPod and you would put the headphones and be like, gotta check out this song, you and you play it you're like, this is the best one from the album or whatever, you know? And all of them were pirated from freaking LineWire and your computer had so many viruses. Brandon: Yeah. Carson: Okay, okay. Yeah. Yes, WinMX. What else did we use? Brandon: ⁓ definitely. Languages. Napster. I ruined many computers thanks to Napster. Carson: I think a lot of people did, yeah. I mean, everybody did it. Parents did it, kids did it. was one of those things. What was I going to say? Paulina, whole put this headphone and check out this song. That happened for me. I remember I have memories of that on the bus, on the bus on the way to school, sometimes on the way home. If I took the bus home, usually I just found another way home. Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: Yeah. Carson: true but then burning CDs. ⁓ Paulina: Yes. Carson: What a time, writing on the cover, like a whatever. Carson's... It's a stupid name. I can't even remember. I think I still have one somewhere. I'm gonna find it. Let's send a picture to you. Brandon: But definitely. Paulina: you Brandon: It didn't matter. I'm sure that back at my house back at home in Knoxville, I'm sure there's, pretty sure I still have my CD case there somewhere. Paulina: Yeah. Carson: That's so funny. What a time. Brandon: time. Paulina: My goodness, yeah, for real. Carson: Yeah, I know, but no. Brandon: But not. No, I was just having now, but like you said, it's just sharing your playlist, but I don't, I've never done that. I don't know if anyone else has, but. Carson: My brother shared one with me a few years ago. Spotify. But now I'm using YouTube. YouTube music. So, yeah, I have the premium, so I just use it instead of paying for Spotify premium. Why not? Paulina: Good. Brandon: Yeah, I use Apple music. Paulina: Yeah, on Spotify also you could make a playlist that you could do together, like a joint type of playlist. ⁓ And I remember I did that with one of my friends for Thanksgiving, but since we didn't have turkey, so we called it chicksgiving. And we had a chicksgiving playlist and we both put songs that we liked. So that was really interesting to also, we had a similar vibe with music, but... You could also really learn more about like, wow, they really listen to this in their free time, like this. Carson: Sorry. Brandon: We need to do that. We need to make a group chat playlist. Carson: Let's do that. Paulina: For real? Good idea. Brandon: that we each put some songs on and then put them all together. Paulina: Yeah. Carson: When you said chicksgiving, I was thinking, chicksgiving what exactly? So for our viewers, you're not alone. I'm also a sick fuck. Paulina: You ⁓ my god. No! Because we ate chicken! What's it? And we're two chicks having a chicken. Carson: This is water. Brandon: Yeah. Carson: I know it's just giving, it gives. Paulina: I know, I know, get it. That didn't even cross my mind, you know? Carson: But yeah. But yeah. What you, Paulina? You're the one over shy, ⁓ not talking about her preferences in music. ⁓ Brandon: Yeah, not yet. Paulina: don't really have any parents. That's the thing, like, if you look at my Spotify playlist, like, you'll find everything. And it's quite concerning, you know, because on one hand it's good, but then sometimes, like, you know, I put it on shuffle and then you have like Britney Spears toxic, you know, come up and you're like, okay, let me change that. Carson: Spill the beans. What's wrong with that? Little Britney Spears? Paulina: I don't know if I want to be listening to that at like 9 in the morning, you know? Carson: Oh, well, maybe that's a little early. Paulina: But, and you know, sober. Brandon: A little early to be toxic. Carson: You Paulina: So no, I grew up listening to a lot of different things. I have two older sisters. that, you know, I have like one of my sisters listen to a lot of Madonna, for example, but then also she listened to Sean Paul. So it's like, how do you go from Madonna and Sean Paul? Then my other sister, sorry. Carson: Shut up, all. Brandon: for Carson: But, Shampoo, Shampoo was a shit. Shampoo was a shit. Is the shit. Brandon: Champagne is quality. Paulina: Yes, Shown to pull. Then you also have my other sister who was listening to a lot of rock and scott punk type of music. so there was a very weird mixture growing up in my house. ⁓ And obviously, since you have... I have two older sisters. That's sort of like... Carson: Oof. True. Same. Paulina: you listen to that as a kid and then you sort of like, ⁓ I sort of like this and I want to listen to more things that are like that. ⁓ So I go from everything like listening to The Offspring, Nirvana, Guns N' Roses, ⁓ like that type of style. Brandon: Yeah. Carson: true. Paulina: And then I also, you know, grew up in the States. So when I was a kid, there was a lot of like Disney Channel stars and you would listen to Hannah Montana, Miley Cyrus ⁓ and the Jonas Brothers. don't get me started on the Jonas Brothers. So I listened to the Jonas Brothers when I was young, but then at the same time, I would listen to Tupac. So it's like, how do you listen to Jonas Brothers and Tupac, know? Carson: Yeah. Brandon: Okay. Carson: True. Brandon: Nick Jermis and Tupac. Paulina: I would pay to see that. But yeah, so that's why I'm like, I don't know how much I want to tell you guys because you guys are probably already thinking I'm fucking weird. But yeah, that's sort of how my playlist looks like. If I go down my playlist, it's literally just, I need to separate it by categories, depending on the mood. Like I have like rockish punk music, then I have like... Brandon: You Carson: Hahaha think. Brandon: here ⁓ no. Paulina: uh, rapish shit and then I have like a playlist that is like, I don't know, throwbacks, early 2000, everything, so. Carson: No, no, no, I get that. Yeah. I mean, you can't. I. What I'm trying to say is same. Same. I have ⁓ a wide, wide range of artists in my profile or I'm sorry, my playlist. But I think it's shifted a little bit in that some of that music got old to me. Like if I listen to it, sorry, if I listen to it now, it'd be great because I've taken a big break. Brandon: No, definitely. Carson: some of the classics, even Offspring for example. I think I have one or two songs right now from the Offspring. I used to have the album, I used to listen to whole album. To the point where I would listen to it on my five CD changer boom box in my room and parents find out that it wasn't the edited version and it was, what does they say you stupid dumb shit? Damn motherfucker. And I was like, and then mom was like, Carson, Carson James, get in here. Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: Yeah. Carson: What did I just hear on the video? What was that? Give me that CD. I think it was trashed at that point. Or it was, for now on, you need to show us every CD that you buy at store. Or something. I come on, it's just music. Brandon: Yeah, I had that. I had that too. Yeah, you got to go. All right. Well, what do you listen to? Let's play and listen to it. is like, all right. Yeah, you can keep it. Carson: Yeah, that happened to you. Paulina: No. Carson: But I mean, if you think about it. Paulina: Yeah, I didn't really have that much of a problem. no, I think also because there was a language barrier. like my parents knew curse words, but like they didn't really understand from the like the context of it. So they were like, OK, well, let us lie. But then when I listen to Polish music with curse words, then yes, that would be like, Polina, you need to control what you listen to or like a little bit like give you like a little side eye like. ⁓ Carson: You didn't have that. Paulina: Maybe, maybe you shouldn't be singing along to that. It's a song, mom. It's just a song. Carson: been. It's just music. Like, it's expression, right? It's stories, it's circumstances, it's the feelings that are shared. I mean, we're all going through this shared experience of living in a world that sometimes isn't so fair, sometimes is happy, sometimes it's sad. I mean, you mix it all up and that's why we get this beautiful art that we can all relate to. And one word taken from it. Paulina: Exactly. Brandon: Exactly. Carson: out of context is just so minuscule, so meaningless. But when you put it all together, it's like, wow, they just told me so much of what they're going through or what they went through. Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: Thank you. Carson: Don't pick apart every little detail without context. Brandon: It's art. Paulina: Yeah, it really is. What about your guilty pleasure songs? talked about a lot of noise in the background. You guys have songs that you really like and that you listen to and you buy with, but we all have those guilty pleasure songs as well that we normally probably wouldn't admit. Carson: Church bells are ringing. but Paulina: to people, but maybe you guys want to do that, like, screw it, like, for the six listeners that we have. Carson: Six, listen. All right, Brandon, you go first. Brandon: I don't know if there's any like specific songs that I can think of. I don't know. I'm sure there are a lot, but it's more like just an artist in general that I think you'd be surprised. And for me, artist that I absolutely love ⁓ matter what is Nelly Furtado. Paulina: Okay. Okay. Carson: I'm like a bird. I wanna fly away. Brandon: Definitely. Like I'm I'm hard-court and nearly like like I'll throw an alley if I get my car I gotta throw an alley on right now not nearly from st. Louis, but nearly for talking Yeah, no not that Carson: Not Band-Aid or wherever he keeps that shit. Band-Aid boy, is that right? I'm thinking, wait, where did he keep that shit? Paulina: Well... That McNally is also good. Carson: Is she still making music? Brandon: I don't believe so. think she's still like touring and doing concerts and stuff. But yeah, I don't think she's put out any new music. But ⁓ I think I had like two CDs. I guess it was her first two CDs like her big productions were were definitely quality. I still listen to those to this day. Paulina: Sure, sure. Brandon: So that's one for me. Who's next? Paulina: I don't know if that shocks me. Like, a little but not. Yeah. Carson: I'm a little shocked. I'm not shocked. I'm not shocked. I'm just like, okay. Well, I didn't see that coming. I didn't see that coming. Shocked. I mean, I'm trying to think if she, what other songs of hers I know or would know. Brandon: You It's like I see it I understand Paulina: Exactly. Yeah. promiscuous with just the real-life thing was. Brandon: See, that's the thing, she has songs with Justin Timberlake, she has lots of songs with Timberlake, with Missy. So she was heavy in the hip hop genre. But then she also has her songs that are very eccentric, very different. I mean, it surprised me, like I listened to this song, I like, why do I even like this? I don't know why, but I like it. Because it's completely different from most things that I listen to. Paulina: Yeah. Carson: Maybe that's why you like it, because it's so different. It's cool. Yeah, I think it's... Well, okay, I'll go. It's my turn. ⁓ Olivia Dean. Olivia Dean? You don't know her? I think she's from the UK. ⁓ Maybe she's mixed, black and white. But she's adorable. First of all, she's adorable. And secondly, she has a great voice. Check her out. Maria is really into her... Brandon: Yeah. could be. Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: I don't even know who that is. Paulina: don't know what that is. Carson: The wifey's really into her and she turned me on to her. So she's got just this unique style that's also reminiscent of the past. And I can't really put my finger on it of exactly maybe which artist she's kind of like or what era she could be from. But if I had to guess, don't know. She just has this elegance about her and a simplicity in her lyrics, but also their Some of her songs are more profound than others. And the way she moves when you watch her live, she just seems very connected to her art. She just seems like this is what this person was born to do. And when you see somebody so graceful in their art and their passion, you respect it. Like you said, Brandon, it's not really what I listen to all the time. It's not what I seek. But when you see somebody who's really getting after it and really connecting, it's cool. Brandon: you you Carson: So I don't sit here and listen to the album, but from time to time a song comes on or she's listening to one and I like it. Brandon: Good. Carson: I've seen memes on Instagram with guys in the car like, you could change it if you want. no, that's cool, man. No, no, you change it. I don't even know what this is. This is weird. And then five seconds later, they're like singing the whole song. Brandon: You Paulina: Thank you. Carson: That's great. That's great. Paulina. Brandon: Nice. Paulina: for me, for me the guilty pleasure I don't know, like I said, it's definitely a guilty pleasure you guys gave me like good artists, you know? but mine is definitely more of a guilty pleasure Brandon: Your turn. Carson: ⁓ you didn't say guilty pleasure, it's true, it's Brandon: Yes. Paulina: But yeah, surprising for you guys, like, you know, but I don't know. I like such a variety of music. mean, guilty pleasure, definitely Barbie Girl by Aqua. Brandon: Classic. Paulina: Sometimes, you know, like I have a lot of memories with that song and like with my best friend like when we were like young and we were listening to that not a song probably you should listen to when you're like 10 years old, but Okay, ⁓ Guilty pleasure definitely Jonas Brothers like It's it's one of those things that like it's one of those bands that I grew up listening to when I was a teenager because they were so popular during that time. I don't know, was like from 2000, I would say seven or six up until like 2012 and then they split up and then they did their own thing and then they got back together, whatever. And they're from New Jersey. Carson: Where are they from? Aqua. Paulina: Yeah. No, not Aqua. Jonah's brothers. Brandon: No, I'm gonna No, I thought they were German or something. Carson: What? Paulina: Yeah, I think so. Carson: I was about to be surprised, Jersey. You fucking kidding me? They're cultured, pretty cultured for Jersey. No offense to New Jersey. Not saying anything. Paulina: Yeah, but and that's the thing I think there is a lot of like since they were so popular when I was a kid it brings like a certain nostalgia for the fact that like The times were so different. It was so easy. So when I listen to those albums like from many years ago I'm not talking about their recent stuff like the reason stuff I don't really listen to like you hear on the radio here and there but Not for me Brandon: We got a of food in New Jersey. Paulina: but they're younger, like they're older stuff, like, you know, sometimes I'm like, okay, let me just, you know, to lighten my mood, to feel a little bit better, I'll put on Jonah's Brothers and I'll sing and whatever. I still know all the lyrics. ⁓ But an artist that I don't know if, obviously they're super famous. They're also a little bit controversial. ⁓ Justin Timberlake. I think his early stuff, very good. His later, not so much. I don't love it. Brandon: That happens to a lot of people. Paulina: Yeah, so definitely, definitely those two, I would say. Carson: When you said Justin Timberlake, it made me think of that, I don't know, that time where he was beatboxing and Britney Spears was in the crowd or whatever, and she's just like, ⁓ my God. Paulina: Look at this. Carson: It was so bad. It was so bad. I'm the Timberlake Timberlake. So whatever he does and he's like, it's like, ⁓ stop, please stop. You can just, it's just so cringe worthy. Cringe. There you go. Gen Z cringe. Brandon: I faintly remember that. All right, thinking of another artist, I just thought of a couple. So I went to private school. So middle school, some of my friends, shout out to Zach, he was the main one on this, but he was big in the emo. So I listened to, well, because of him, I listened to a lot of, what is it, Fall Out Boy. Was it Fall Out Boy? Yeah. I was a fan of All American Rejects. Carson: But yeah. Paulina: Yeah. Carson: Oh yeah, let's go. Oh yeah. There you go. All that. Paulina: That's very soft emo Brandon Brandon: That's what I know. That's what I know. Those are the... It's not my choice. Carson: It's not, it's not emo unless unless unless it makes you want to slit your wrist. It's not really Brandon: It's happy emo, I think, if I remember correctly, I don't know. It's the happiest of the emos, I don't know. That was an emo. I liked a couple of songs. And I know just thinking about the songs, like, ah, okay. If I were to hear them now, like, you came in the car or something, like, yeah, like, bring back the memories, going back to middle school. Paulina: I'm gonna be happy and emo. And it was a happy email. Carson: And it's now for sure. remember Fallowboy. Trying to think of others, but it's hard to remember all of them. Paulina: Sure, I get that. Pete Wentz with the eyeliner. Brandon: None of that for me. Carson: 30 seconds to Mars. ⁓ Paulina: There was Old Time Low as well, I don't know if you guys know Old Time Low. Carson: ⁓ yeah, all time low. One of my friend groups was big into that. I never got really into them, but they liked them a lot. Brandon: Yeah Paulina: My chemical romance. Brandon: I never heard of them. Carson: Mm-hmm. Heard that. Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: going into a slightly darker route, Marilyn Manson. Brandon: Yeah, that's a joke. Paulina: different. Carson: Yeah. That's a twist. That's a plot twist right there. I remember all this conversation is bringing me back to music videos when... Okay, so where I lived, you had MTV, you had MTV2, of course, but on cable we had Channel 99 and it was called The Box. Did y'all have something like this? And it was just music videos. Only music videos, like 24-7. Paulina: ⁓ Brandon: South South Samaria Carson: And so that's where I really got into dancing and just the love of music, I think, really took off for me with the music videos, just watching music videos over and over and over again. And Nelly, not Furtado, but Nelly. ⁓ Ludacris. Band-Aid Nelly. The one right here, right? It's right here. No, it's here. Paulina: Band-Aid belly. Brandon: Nervy. Paulina: That is weird, Like, on a machine. Carson: yourselves. Paulina: Where did he have the bandaid? On his cheek, no? It was here. Brandon: Yeah, it was. But I like Carson's now, up here. Carson: I fucking know. It's like, bro, think that's... ⁓ I said here, all right? I said right here, like an Indian-nelly. Like, no, like... Nelly's gonna get on and we're gonna have another hater on our hands. So no, like Ludacris, Nelly, all these videos. Gosh, what was the group? LFO? Does LFO sound familiar? No, it LFO. They were some boy band type of boy band. It was like in the whole era of Backstreet Boys in sync, 38, 98 degrees. What was it? Brandon: We got love for Nellie. St. Louis. Paulina: LMFAO? Brandon: No, LF4, yeah, I remember- Paulina: No. Brandon: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Was it? Carson: can't remember all the groups, right? But it's true. Paulina: I wasn't born then. Brandon: You're a baby. Carson: About the Link 182, mean all the videos of the time were just, it was all there. Even Marilyn Manson, mean all the videos. didn't, I they played all genres and that was my favorite channel. Just watch music videos all the time. Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: Okay, yes. Brandon: I mean, it was cool because that was the way the artists express themselves. Obviously you had your music, but then you actually had a video to go along with it, which is something that, well, now... Paulina: Yeah. Carson: They do it. Brandon: These kids that are born in the last, 10, 15 years, like they don't know what a music video is. I don't think they do music videos anymore. I don't know. Is there definitely no MTV? Carson: They do, they're just, I mean, I see them. Paulina: They do, they're just not the same quality. Brandon: Yeah? Carson: Right, they used to go hardcore. And it was always pushing the boundaries. We'll take for example Ludacris, What's Your Fantasy video, know, Riskay, you know the one where he says... And so it was cool. It was a time. Brandon: Big productions. that what can I put on TV? Paulina: Thank Brandon: Good time. Paulina: Yeah, the music video has definitely changed, you know? when I look at... I don't know if you guys can hear, that's my cat meowing. No? Okay, you can... Later on, you can cut that out. He's hungry, actually. I didn't feed him, I didn't give him dinner yet. Carson: I heard him. I heard the little bastard. Brandon: sorry. Carson: You're going to get cat activists on us. They're going to take that out of context. I don't feed him. I don't feed him. I don't feed him. it's going to be like, Brandon: He's gonna attack. haha Paulina: What was I to say? Actually can we put it on pause because he's gonna be annoying. Like can we cut this and then put them together? that be too much? Carson: Pause. Brandon: Yeah, we can do it. Yeah. All right, that's fine. Yeah. Yeah, ⁓ no problem. Carson: ⁓ yeah, just go do your thing. Paulina: Okay, okay, so well I'll come back in like a second. Sorry guys Carson: Yeah. It's all good. Okay, let's talk shit about. Brandon: ⁓ Paulina, she's horrible. Carson: She doesn't take care of her cat. She doesn't feed her cat. Y'all listen, I've been trying to bring awareness to this problem here in Spain. People don't feed their cats. Brandon: Cat's gonna attack her. She mistreats it. and they throw them off the tables. Carson: and they don't know if they should take him to the vet because they're trying to save money and the cat's walking weird and shit and when it runs you can really tell. Brandon: It's I'll take it to the vet on Tuesday. Not on Saturday. Not on Saturday. Carson: because it costs less. It's too expensive on Saturday. Brandon: ⁓ Paulina: Sorry guys. He's talking shit about me. Because we're talking shit about people in my camp. Brandon: ⁓ no, no, no, it's all good. Carson: Don't be. Brandon: I don't know what you're talking about. ⁓ Carson: No, we're talking about how much you, how well you take care of your cats and how you will take them to the vet any day of the week. ⁓ Brandon: and they love you so much. Paulina: You Brandon: No matter what the time. Paulina: They're fucking assholes. OK. So in regards to music videos, I think back in the days you were waiting for there to be like a music video, like when you watch a music video, like there was so much like you would sit down with like a whole event, you would sit down with your friends and be like, ⁓ did you see the latest blah, blah, blah video? ⁓ No, and you would run home, you know, to like a PC because you wouldn't be able to watch it on your phone because it would cost you, you know, your parents a whole bunch of money. So you would go home and you would actually watch it on like a PC on the screen on YouTube. you're like, wow, that's so let's watch it again. And you would actually watch it a couple of times just to like analyze it. And now we will just play on Spotify or whatever, Apple or whatever other. platform people get with their music and that's that. I think just the quality in general of like the actual video production has changed, meaning like how much thought they put into it. I remember like the videos, yeah, now you look back at it and you're like, they're a little bit cringe. Like what is that the one with, I think it was NSYNC. It looks like they're in like a cheese grater or whatever. I don't know if it was NSYNC. Carson: So. Paulina: The backstory boy, there we go. Like it looked like you're inside of a cheese grater, but. Carson: For sure, there were a lot of those videos. Even well-known rappers had their videos in what looked like some strange ass studio. What is this trying to be? What are you trying to make this right now? Brandon: Okay. Paulina: Yeah. But it was exciting because you would get to watch that. And now it's like, now when I actually watch a video that I'm like, ⁓ this is pretty like decent. I'm like, Tony, you have to watch this. Like I get really excited about it because it's so rare. Carson: Still exciting. Brandon: think that's what we were talking about before, like with Joyner Lucas, like he puts, like his videos are like movie productions, like he puts a lot into it. Outside of him, I like, I don't know who really does. Carson: It's true, maybe. Brandon: videos like that. I don't know, at least in rap. don't know. Maybe when Kendrick, he puts them out, pretty, they're deep. Paulina: Yeah. Carson: Oh yeah, Kendrick thinks about it. That's true. And then Childish Gambino. Brandon: Of course, yeah. Paulina: Yeah, J. Cole, Charlie, yeah. Carson: true. Brandon: and Carson: You, I mean, to be fair, I don't seek music videos. I don't look for them like I did when I was younger. So maybe they are still putting them out. Maybe some artists still give it the diligence that it deserves. But at least it seems like not something people are talking about. Paulina: course. Yeah. Brandon: Not now. Paulina: I think it's just a lot of people don't have the capacity, you know, to sit down and watch, I don't know, a video that is five minutes long or six minutes long, despite the fact that the song is, I don't know, three minutes, but then you have the two extra minutes of whatever. Drake also had this ⁓ where he would make a video and a lot of it is him talking and whatever and like... There's other things that are happening besides just the song. And I feel like that's why a lot of people don't really watch videos because they're like, no, I just want to listen to the song. I don't care about the rest. But sometimes when you actually watch the video, there is like an additional message to it. And I think that's kind of beautiful. One video that comes to my mind is the... I think Jesus of suburbia. the Green Day video, which is like, I don't know, like a 12 minute long video. Like the song in itself is really long. And then the whole video is super long. You're just watching it, but it feels like a part of a movie. I think Green Day in general, they don't have a lot of like really cool videos, but there are some that sort of just stand out. Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: I really just think it depends on the artist too. Carson: Yeah, you would think that, I mean, what do you think about the overall reach of artists now? Because we all have access to, mean, most people have smartphones. Everybody, ⁓ so many people have access to the internet. So it's much easier to get the music now. If you are willing to pay, well, you don't even have to pay. Even if you're on the free version, you can still access all the artists, right? And so... Brandon: Yeah, was free. For you too. Carson: Do you think it's better for artists nowadays? Do you think that, I don't even know how to frame the question, but I would imagine that it's easier to be successful now as an artist, or maybe it's. Paulina: I knew it. Brandon: I think it's easier to be seen now, but to be successful, well yeah, if you get seen, well you're more likely to become successful, but actually as far as your career and making money, I think that's kind of taking a turn with the whole, I think this was some part of it, streaming, because they don't get paid, I imagine they get paid pennies for each stream that they have, and it's not like before with the contracts that they would sign. which are also kind of bad anyway. The music label is to take advantage of the artists, but I think it's a little bit more difficult for them to make the money that they were made in the past right now with how everything is. Carson: It seems like there would be more competition now since it's easier. I mean, look at us. We just started podcasts and no, you got to fill out this form and pay this fine. You can just start a podcast and post it and there you are. You're competing with ever many other thousands of podcasts there are. And so great, you have accessibility, do you have, you know, can you earn that money? Yeah, right. Paulina: million. Brandon: Coming for you Joe Rogan. Paulina: you Carson: Joe, what do you know, Joe? like Joe, I Joe. You're a guy. Paulina: I see where you're going with that, Carson. And I do think ⁓ it's for visibility, but at the same time, there isn't so much ⁓ hype I think, certain artists. Because when you think about artists back in the day, even early ⁓ 2000s. where you would still very often get CDs or as we said, we would stream them online from suspicious websites and whatever programs. There is a lot of hype, know, there is a lot of like, this person is dropping their album or whatever and it's like, you need to go to the store, actually buy the CD and it's like, it was the whole event, you know? Now that like... Okay, this person is dropping down. It's like, okay, I'll set a reminder for reminds me great, you know, I'll listen to it when I can. So I think there is a different level of how much we get involved in an artist's life. Back in the day, like you would read through magazines to find out about, I don't know, your favorite bands, I don't know, favorite food type of thing. Whereas now it's like everything is so easy to access that You go on YouTube and you put, don't know, ⁓ Travis Barker's favorite food, and you find out what the drummer from Blink-182 likes. And it's like, okay, great, you bought your interview, and that's that. ⁓ So I think the accessibility of the information makes a huge difference of how even we interact with the music and the artist itself. Carson: Right? When something's a little harder to find or you have to wait for it and then the suspense builds, you know, the demand for it goes up. But when it's just always available, you're just kind of like, well, I don't have to worry if I miss the release because it's going to be out and I can just download it anytime. And I think there's something to be said, like you mentioned, where you had to go to the store to buy the CD. Brandon: I it. Carson: You get, you have it in your hands and you're flipping through the paper to see, like, see the lyrics. they, sometimes they list lyrics, sometimes they don't. They have their little artwork. So you get to see, you just associate a bit more with the band. You feel maybe a little more connected to the band about their interests and if it aligns with yours and just to have those CDs. I want to listen to this artist. I'm putting this CD in the CD player. Brandon: The booklet. Carson: I can't go and switch to electronica. I'm listening to rock right now. And I'm listening to this album. And then you can see how one song transitions to that. Maybe you don't really like that song, but then it transitions. They decided to put those two songs together for a reason because it goes into that next song and it's this one continuous flow of energy. So it is cool. And maybe something was lost there from tangible CDs to streaming. Maybe there was a little bit of... Yeah, loss of contact. don't know. That's right. It's just different. It's different. We still have it. We still have music and the music still moves us and we still feel connected and we still feel the need to hear it and to listen to it all the time. Or some of us all the time, some of us not as often, but I have a student who doesn't like music and I'm just thinking. Paulina: different strands. Brandon: What's wrong with it? Carson: I'm a little worried about you, Because at your age, by your age, I don't remember a time in my life where I didn't like music. Is the thing. Paulina: Yeah, where you wouldn't have your headphones in and... Brandon: exactly Carson: find something please there's so much good music out there you've got to just at least try try to establish that I don't care if it's music that I hate which isn't much but find something you like Paulina: Yeah. Speaking of music you hate, sorry maybe Brandon you want to add something to this? Brandon: I just one quick thing, just piggybacking off of what Carson said about like listening to an album and how the songs link up. Like the artists put it that way for a reason. I'm not much of a playlist listener. Like, of course, sometimes I do, but usually if I'm listening to something, any music, I'm listening to the entire album, not the not just like one random song or a playlist. So like I said, I'm listening to whatever, Kaz, Tupac, whatever, it's the album. and I'm going through everything and then what's this over with is like, all right, well, what am I in the mood for now? And then I'll switch to another album. Carson: I can attest to that because I've been in your car. I know how you do things. And I like that. And I like that about you. I'm going to, you know what? I'm to see if I can do that myself because it's a, it's a good transition for me from going from having this current mindset of I need to add more music to my playlist. Well, I can just go to the artists. already know that I like listen to the album and maybe there's some hidden gems that either I forgot about or I haven't even discovered yet. Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: Thank you. Brandon: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Carson: And so I think that's a perfect, that's some really good advice for the, for anybody listening, myself included. Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: And actually one of my playlists that I have on my album music is, it's actually the albums. I put the entire album. I don't put songs. It's like the entire album. I listen to everything and then whatever's next. I hear something or someone tells me where I go find that album and I'll put it on. I'm not into the individual songs. do. Carson: I have done that. I have added entire albums without listening to the whole album first and then I go through and then I realize I don't like that song so I take off the ones that I like later. But at least I try it. But at least try it. So maybe I should go back to that. Brandon: Yeah. Yeah. Paulina: Get it there there are days and days there are some days where I would like just put the whole album and listen to the whole album but then there are days where I just put my music on shuffle and like I said it goes from Britney Spears to I don't know Childish Gambino, know, so it's like it really depends on the day But I've been trying to to give that a try as well with Eminem So starting from like his very early work, you know sort of taking it album by album with Tupac as well, like album by album, ⁓ because there are many songs that I like, but I know that they have so much music that I'm like, I haven't heard, or maybe I have heard by a complete forgot about. So it's really nice to sort of just go back and revisit some of those songs. Brandon: Definitely. Carson: I do love the timeless element of music where it could have been made yesterday, yet it was made 50, 60, 70 years ago or whatever. Just like, how is that still so relevant? How have we as a species not changed at all? It's funny, it's sad, it's all of the emotions, right? Depending on what you're listening to. But it's like movies, music can... Paulina: Yeah. Carson: could travel back in time or even books where you are still experiencing a conflict or an inner conflict that somebody much, much older than you went through is still something that can relate to you now or to people in general nowadays. You were going to ask something, Paulina, that artist we hate. Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: Yeah, was going to ask, ⁓ yeah, artists that because we plan this, sorry, sometimes we actually do plan things. A little bit of planning. ⁓ Let me just take a look at it. What is it? Where is this question? ⁓ Which type of music or artists do hate that everyone seemed or seems to like? I really like that question. ⁓ Brandon: I'll go first. It's simple. Carson: I think it's gonna be the same as yours. Do it. Brandon: So here recently were all the the mumble rap I can't do it can't do it It even I wait when we talked about this in the first episode with bad bunny like I Watched it like I understand Spanish, but I watched the present the presentation the performance and I was like, I don't know what he's saying like to speak normal But I don't know it doesn't make speak American though, but Paulina: Get it? Yeah. Carson: Yeah, I don't like that either. Hahaha. Speak American. Paulina: and Brandon: Just speak normal. don't know. I can't understand it. It doesn't make sense to me. whatever. You do you. I don't know. He's successful making money off of it. Carson: Yeah. Sure. Brandon: No problems. Paulina: person. Carson: For me, reggaeton. Reggaeton. I do not like reggaeton for the record. It's just all the same. I give me, I'll give it this. There are some songs that I can dance to, but by the second or third song, I'm hearing the same beat pattern and I don't care what you're saying, but I need variety in my life. If it's too predictable and it's too repetitive, Brandon: over and Carson: then it's boring for me. And I can only take so much of it. And this is why I cycle through genres as well. I can't just listen to electronic music. I can't listen to the highest level electronic music. I need somehow some more vibey, chill, whatever I need, or just to go over to hip hop, rap, or a little bit of alternative, or experimental rock, whatever it may be. Like I need this. can't just do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. every song the same sorry if i offended you maybe you maybe you like reggaeton maybe you're listening i don't know Paulina: I actually don't mind reggaeton but it really has to be like I have to be in a mood for it like it can't just be on I don't know Tuesday morning I wake up and I'm like no I have to be in a mood for it like I don't mind it if I'm like if there is a vibe and you know or couple of years in or whatever like sometimes I even blast in my car but like I have to be in the mood for as Karz and said like cycling through different types of like genres like Brandon: Get there. Paulina: For me, Tony sometimes makes fun of me because I can go, like I said, from one day from reggaeton to, I don't know, 90s like rap, hip hop, early 2000s, I don't know, weird rock music. So it all has to be on like what I'm feeling in that moment, what helps me sort of deal with emotions and whatever. But one artist that... don't get the hype and we're gonna get a lot of hate for this sorry guys Carson: Ooh, do it. ⁓ Paulina: Taylor Swift. can't. I cannot. In the very beginning, I listened to a little bit of Taylor Swift because my best friend absolutely loved Taylor Swift. And I could see it that like, okay, it's not bad, but it's too, just too bland. so, it has no spice. There is nothing. Brandon: It's not for you. Carson: The flavor... I'm not into... I'm not into pop. I'm not really into pop. That's one genre that I'm not really into. Occasionally I'll hear... Paulina: Literally just yeah, sorry Carson: Okay, Teddy swims as Pop, right? Paulina: don't know what that is. Brandon: Yeah, you can see a pop. I mean, if it's on the radio, it's pop. To a certain extent. Carson: Yeah, he's the guy who's a bit heavy, but he has tattoos all over him. He's got a neck tattoo, maybe face tattoos, possibly. And you'll hear a song after this and you'll be like, ⁓ I know who he is. I like him, but he at the same time has sold out his creativity to fit the mainstream pop ideology that, a certain age group is going to listen to me and love it. And I think that's, there's just a... Brandon: Yeah. Carson: a depth to certain genres in terms of the lyrical quality or whatever the beat variation there's just that caters more towards certain age groups. And for me, I like him, his music, because he has such a good voice. And sometimes the lyrics are pretty cool, a little bit inventive, whatever, but then I get tired of it. I get tired of it because it's this repetitive pop mainstream sound. Even though his voice is exceptional. Brandon: Definitely. Carson: I feel like he's limiting himself by going with the contract, sticking within the contract, what they want him to say, what maybe eventually that'll change for him. I hope so, because he's really talented, but this happens. This happens. For me, that's kind of what Taylor Swift is like that, that poppy like, the formula works. So let's keep going. it's like, you could be so much better if you just did your own thing, but maybe that's their own thing. I don't know. Paulina: Yeah. Yeah, and that's the main issue I have. I get it, generally it seems like she's a great, very nice, kind person. It's nothing personal towards her. Well, a little bit. She's too girly-pop for me. She's too little. No, I feel like those type of people are a little bit like, there is something hidden behind that. There is something questionable. I don't trust it. ⁓ Carson: Ooh! Brandon: Let's fight. Carson: You Paulina: But also like, yeah, it's very generic. sort of like it targets a specific audience that you could be so much more. You could do so much more with the voice that you have because she doesn't have a bad voice. I don't think she does. It's just the songs one after another sort of all blend. There is no. Yeah. Brandon: It's all the same. Carson: For me, the last really good pop artist that I could think of for females was Lady Gaga. Paulina: ⁓ yeah. Carson: She was exceptional and she changed it a little bit. She put her own flavor. She had flavor like you're saying. You're talking about lacking flavor? She did not like flavor. So she's got it. And so she's a good example of somebody who could have easily sold out and bought into that algorithm sound or whatever you want to call it. But she's like, no, no, no, no, no, Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: No. No, no, no. Brandon: She has it. Paulina: And then the other artist. Yeah. ⁓ yeah. Carson: And we were getting down. We were getting down on the way to prom to Lady Gaga. And I'm not ashamed to admit it. Lady Gaga was a shit. Paulina: Yes. Brandon: See you later. Paulina: Another artist I want to mention was, ⁓ I didn't get the hype, maybe just because I don't like that style of music, that genre of music, at Squirrelex. I didn't get it. I know a lot of people listened, but I just couldn't. Carson: What were you going say? Relax. Brandon: Yeah, I miss that and all that. Carson: That's a, for me, pure Skrillex was weird and still weird to me. Too much going on, too much noise, not so much rhythm and a little bit more chaotic. But when he's collabed with people, I've enjoyed some of the mixes he's done with other people. Because he's talented, I could see in some of his work that he's got talent in the way that he would group certain sounds and rhythms, but. Paulina: Thank you. I'm going go ahead close it. Brandon: It worked out. Carson: I've never, I don't think I have anything just Skrillex. But yeah, I totally get that one because he was out there. He's out there. Paulina: Brendan, would you add any other orches? Brandon: another one another artist Carson: and another one. Brandon: I don't know. Taylor Swift is a good one, I don't know. Definitely not my type of music, she... I think she's one of those artists that either you absolutely love her, which a lot of people do, or you hate her. I really just can't stand her now because you can't watch anything with the NFL because it's always about her. It's like we're watching a football game. Like it has nothing to do with her, but she's the main, the main piece of everything. it's like, no, like we're watching football. We don't care about her, but. Paulina: attraction. Yeah. Brandon: But she's from Tennessee, so once again, got a little bit of love for her. Carson: this. Paulina: Like I said, she doesn't have a bad voice. I just think that she could do possibly more. I would want for her to try something a little bit different, you know, than just... Brandon: But what she does made her a billionaire, so. I think she's good. I don't think she's gonna change. I'm pretty sure she's up there. Carson: It works. Paulina: Yeah, no, of course. Carson: Shoot Billionaire. Paulina: Thank Probably. Brandon: with their tours. Carson: What am I doing with my life? Brandon: You're making bank on tours. Carson: How's that? Yes, yes. My bad. ⁓ On this subject, it's ⁓ semi-related, but an artist that I didn't really believe in at first, I now have much more respect for, and that's Post Malone. Brandon: D12 Paulina: Well, did well. Okay. Carson: I thought he was generic at first. His sound for me, especially congratulations, like that for me at that time, I was just, I was not feeling it. My girlfriend at the time really liked him, really respected him as an artist. And she was saying how much of an artist he was and how much of a creative he was. And he was really a feeler, like a good person. And I never really went and did a lot of research, but over time, Brandon: Huh. Carson: after just seeing him appear in different bits from his concerts, how he would connect with the crowd, how he would play guitar and bring and sing covers of old songs and just seeing the depth of his emotion on this base, know, visually just putting it all out there. That's where it changed for me. And I said, okay, some of his songs I like, some of them I don't. I do think in general, some of his music is pretty mainstream, but as an artist, Brandon: There. Yeah. Carson: Good guy. Solid guy. I would have a beer with and would like to know a bit more about how he, how he, how his brain ticks. Seems like an interesting guy. Paulina: is what you do. Brandon: That would definitely be an interesting conversation. Paulina: Post Malone if you're ever in Spain, we're inviting you for a beer. Brandon: Or two. Carson: You know, he's got a house not far, well, in Salt Lake basically. So hit me up. That'd be cool. Paulina: ⁓ And what about, since Carson sort of went there with this idea of how art has changed, what about our music, like our style of music, what we listened to when we younger versus now? Do you guys think that has changed a lot or are guys sort of are sticking to what you liked, I don't know, 10, 15 years ago? Brandon: For me, it's the same. I still pretty much listen to the same music from, like I said, from besides the emo when I was in middle school. Everything else is pretty much the same. What changes is the fact that you actually understand it. You listen and you see what the artists were doing. Like when you were 12 years old, you hear a song and it's like, it's just a song. But now you hear it again, it's like, ⁓ now I see what they meant, what they were trying to say, what they were going through. And it has a whole different meaning now when you're grown up. with a little bit of maturity that you didn't have back then. Carson: Mm-hmm. Hmm. True. Well, for me, it hasn't changed too much. I wouldn't say... Okay. Rap and hip-hop was my primary when I was in middle school, high school. Alongside that was reggae. Not reggae, it's reggae. Sublime, Pepper, The Expendables... Paulina: Yeah. Thank you. Carson: You name it. Even more alternative and just rock in general, even some metal, not hardcore Slipknot or Korn, not the full album, right? But some songs. ⁓ So now that's pretty much shifted. I did start listening to electronic music by high school. I had two 12 inch subwoofers in my car, 600 watt amp, Alpine headpiece stereo. Paulina: Thank Carson: And my brother also had a system in his car. And so we were loud. We were, we were bumping and it was, yeah, it was rap and it was electronic and that hasn't changed too much. More electronic now, very, very little. No, there's, there's still rock, but I need to re revitalize my rock playlist. And so no more electronic than anything. Whereas before it was a mix of rap, hip hop electronic. Brandon: you Paulina: Thank you. Brandon: you Carson: And that's all I have to say about that. Paulina, you? Paulina: ⁓ I think obviously some things have changed. I don't listen to Hannah Montana as much as I used to. Even though, you know, there are days, but generally I would say yes. ⁓ No, but generally I definitely listen to more rock, more punk, more rap, hip hop. Carson: I'm Hannah Montana. Hi everybody. Paulina: ⁓ I definitely like my oldies as well, so I like to jam to Abba from time to time, to Elvis, to Lenny Kravitz. ⁓ Like the classics, yeah. So Madonna, like all of that, you know, so... Carson: Yeah, we didn't even talk about the classics some of the classics Queen Brandon: Lady. Yeah. Always. Queen. Paulina: I think as Brandon said when we were younger we didn't really understand as much. We sort of just like heard maybe our parents listening to Alba. We're like, okay, we'll just dance to it because everyone is dancing to it or Madonna or whatever. And then you actually get older and you listen to the lyrics and you're like, oh, this is really good. There is some something behind it. Like that actually makes people happy and enjoying their good time and whatever. So. Carson: Yeah, they're substance, yeah. Paulina: Yeah, I think that definitely has some things have changed, but some things definitely stay the same. Yeah, classics. What are some of the classics? Carson: was classics. Brandon: Classic rock man, anything from like the 60s and 70s. Can't go wrong with that. Carson: Too many bands to name. Paulina: They're shooting at a right-foot. For a road trip especially, Carson: There's so many good bands. ⁓ yeah. Gotta get everybody in the car singing. Something that everybody knows, right? Queen. Everybody knows Queen. Brandon: Okay. Paulina: But even when Rhapsody comes on, you do all the fucking voices, like that's it. Brandon: Hello Queen... Queen. Carson: Yep. Michael Jackson, everybody can dance to that. Everybody wants to dance to that. If you listen to Michael Jackson, if you don't dance, serial killer. Something's wrong with you. There is something wrong with you. Brandon: Thank Mike Paulina: Bye. Carson: ⁓ For example. Paulina: Yeah. Abba as well. feel like if you don't dance to Abba, mean, Carson, I think I see you dance to Abba. Carson: I can, I may have dammit, because I may have had a couple drinks, but I do not like Mamma Mia. I do not like that. Abba is not my shit. Abba's not my shit. It's catchy. I'm not saying I didn't dance to it. Because, oh, right, that's a challenge. I'm gonna find some weird ass shit to dance to. Brandon: different. or Paulina: I definitely have singing hands to it though. Brandon: Carson, I didn't say anything. You Carson: But yeah. Paulina: Yeah, for me, classics, definitely up top on my list. Lenny Kravitz. That's a... Carson: That guy's still ripped. He was jacked. Paulina: It's still hot. Brandon: He's a bit... He's mid-50s. But he's a beast. Carson: What was that? Paulina: He's... Yeah. Carson: Yeah, he looks great. He looks great. It's amazing. Well, come on, you think like... Paulina: definitely know this. Brandon: Is he considered classic? know, Linney's from like the 90s. Paulina: I don't know Carson: you Paulina: Yeah, the 90s were like 40 years ago almost. Brandon: Okay. Carson: Hey, you better watch it. I know where you live. Brandon: Hahaha Paulina: Yeah, what do we consider class? That's another question. What do we consider to be a class? Are we going back as far as Elvis Presley or are we looking at... Carson: No, okay, he's... Brandon: That is true. That is true. Carson: 70s or earlier, 70s or earlier for me. Brandon: I was gonna say 80s, 80s or earlier. Carson: Hades. Paulina: Okay. Yeah. Brandon: I don't know why, but yeah. Carson: Fugees. Paulina: Okay, yeah. Queen for me, queen definitely. Brandon: Definitely good stuff. Carson: Queen is one of my top, for sure. Brandon: Queen, I think if you actually look at actual music for me, the top is like 1A1B's Queen and Michael Jackson. You put them in the order, it doesn't matter. Throw those on any time and you're good. Carson: It's true. Michael Jackson has some really good songs, not just to dance to, but the quality of his lyrics to. He put some thought into it. Man in the Mirror. So many good ones, can't Another artist to rediscover. Paulina: What about Bonnie ⁓ Brandon: The movie comes out on Friday, the new Michael Jackson movie. Paulina: you Carson: ⁓ I didn't know there was a movie in the works. Paulina: That's true with his, with his, what's his name? Matthew. Brandon: His nephew, his nephew's playing him. Carson: Cool. That'd be good to see. ⁓ Paulina: I was asking what about Bonnie ⁓ I think his name is Bonnie ⁓ The guys from... what are they called? The one that sings Daddy Cool and Rasputin and... Carson: Oh, I didn't even, I know the rest routine, but I didn't know the artist's name. Paulina: think it's body ⁓ Brandon: I'm lost here. Carson: Yeah. Paulina: Yeah, you guys know who I'm talking about. They're from Germany, The one that the thing that yeah, yeah. They're from some of the 70s, I think. So I guess classic. Brandon: I'm sure I do, but right now... Carson: There's the Germans. They sang the rest of the tune, did. Bony Brandon: Alright. Okay. Paulina: That was very popular in Poland. that's something that like every party like, it was that in Aba, so. Carson: ⁓ yeah. Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: There's always music. Sorry, great question. Carson: You never get. No, was gonna say you never run out of music to discover and go back to. Paulina: No. Brandon: Definitely. There's so much out there. Carson: It's the best. Paulina: Yeah. And what is something that you guys are currently into? maybe not that. Maybe what is your favorite album that you could actually put on repeat and listen to that album? Carson: Tire out. Paulina: We have a guest today. Carson: Do we? Ayyyy! Little guy! Black Panther! That was awesome. Brandon, you got one? Brandon: Right? Black Panther. Paulina: I'm a living boy. Brandon: album for me. think anything I would cast especially Equimini, AT Aliens. Paulina: Okay. Carson: Okay. Yeah, for outcast. Coimani. Okay, I'll put those two. Those two. Yes. And then for me, Red Hot Chili Peppers, either Californication or Blood Sugar Sex Magic. With Maybe, I prefer Blood Sugar Sex Magic. Just because they were funkier at that time. They were a little more raspy. Californication was very measured. I don't know, they're just a little more wild. Brandon: Yeah. Carson: They were more wild, more free spirited. California Cation was incredible. mean, studio quality, those two albums, yeah, you can feed me, feed my brain, those two albums on repeat and I think it'll turn out okay. Well, I think I have turned out okay. Jury's still out. Brandon: This is good, it's great. Paulina: Okay, interesting. Brandon: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Paulina: I don't know, those two actually, like that doesn't really surprise me, like your choices, so... Carson: For both of us, white cause brown is white. Paulina: Yeah. Obviously that's the reason. Brandon: Of course. Paulina: I mean, yeah, outcast? No, pretty good choice there. Can't lie. ⁓ Carson: Thank you. Yeah, fucking outcasts. Brandon: I try to all my students on OutKast. They always ask me something about rap or hip hop or something. Who should I listen to? like OutKast. Then they go and listen to Hey Ya. It's like, Hey Ya, all right, yeah. But that's like the most commercial song they have. Obviously it has its meanings and behind it and everything, but it's like, no. They to make it a list. Like, go listen to these songs. Carson: Yes. Paulina: you Carson: Gator boats. ⁓ yay. It's true. Yeah. It's okay, but right. Yeah, that was not my favorite album, but that was a two part album. This speaker box. Brandon: Yeah, that's the Love Below speaker box. Paulina: But that video is actually pretty good. The Heyat, like I have it up like since I was a kid like that lives like rent free in my head, you know? Brandon: ⁓ yeah, it's incredible. Carson: ⁓ yeah. For sure. Brandon: You go look at the lyrics, go look in the lyrics. It's a lot to that song. Paulina: Okay. Carson: Beyonce's and Lucy Lou's. ⁓ yeah, Outkast for sure. Outkast for sure. When I was in Atlanta recently, I listened to some Outkast and I was like, I'm back! For five minutes, I'm back! But for sure. And you Paulina, it's your turn. Brandon: Do what you do. Paulina: One of them definitely like a Green Day album. I'm thinking sort of debating which one but I think I'll go with Dookie. And Childish Gambino, Kemp. Kemp album. me, like whenever I listen to it, there is a song on there that makes me cry every time. Brandon: What is it? Carson: What's it gonna be? Yeah. Dookie. Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: I listen to it when I'm sad and I put it in the car. Tony was like, no, come on. I know you're gonna cry to this song. I don't remember which one it is. don't know. I don't know if it's actually on the camp. Let me see Childish Gambino. Brandon: you Carson: puts earplugs in. He's got them ready. What number is it? Remember the number. Remember when it was just track number, you didn't have anything, was just an LCD screen and the car was just track one, track seven, and you fast forward. Brandon: Exactly. Paulina: It's called that power. That's what it is, that power. Yeah. Brandon: Sorry, I don't remember that one. Carson: That power. I don't remember that album. Brandon: Yeah, it's not my favorite child is gonna be in one, but it's up. It's quality Paulina: It's a great outlet. He has a lot of good ones there. yeah, that one just makes me cry every time. Obviously, ⁓ have Green Day where it's very high energy and everything, and then you get Childish Company and it's like, there's me crying in the car. So... And I can't relate. I'm not a boy, first of all. I'm not a black boy, second of all. I cannot relate to that, but... Brandon: you Paulina: There are certain things that he does just the way that he expresses himself and it's just you sort of listen to her and you're like, ⁓ my God, like this is sad or that's hurtful. Like that's, this sucked, you know? And you can really empathize with it. So. Yeah. Carson: For sure. The ability of music to move your emotions ⁓ is And sometimes you use it to match ⁓ your Sometimes you use it because maybe you want it to transport you to a different place. But it really is powerful. It really is ingrained in what it means to be human. And we can look back in history and it's always been a part of our culture, our shared world culture. A love for music. The ability of music to move your emotions ⁓ is And sometimes you use it to match ⁓ your Sometimes you use it because maybe you want it to transport you to a different place. But it really is powerful. It really is ingrained in what it means to be human. And we can look back in history and it's always been a part of our culture, our shared world culture. A love for music. Brandon: powerful. powerful. Paulina: Yeah. Yeah. And is there an artist that you guys if you could bring back If you yeah like what type of like who would be an artist that if you could bring back that already passed away Who would you bring back? Brandon: Good, good stuff. I don't know if we talked about it came up somewhere. I don't know if it was with you or where. So for me, obviously, my first option would be Michael Jackson to bring him back. But I think a better option would be to pop. Paulina: Okay, here goes the conspiracy theory that Paulina has. Brandon: No, no, no, no conspiracy theory, no, but to bring it back and put him in the climate that we have with everything's going on in the world and to see how he would express his feelings on on the current the current state of the world Carson: I like that. Paulina: you. Yeah. Carson: I like that and I will follow that up with Freddie Mercury. because of, yeah, the same thing. Because as an artist and as somebody who would fully express themselves, no matter how hard it would be to not get canceled, he would say it. And so would Tupac. And they would say it. And they would say it loud for everybody to hear. And that'd be great. Paulina: Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I second that. I definitely was thinking with, I was going the route of Tupac first. ⁓ Yeah, with how the world is right now, sort of expressing his opinion and definitely Freddie Mercury as well. Brandon: Okay. Carson: Hey, I got one for you. Paulina: filming. Carson: Think dreadlocks. Hey. Paulina: Bob Marley? Yeah. Brandon: No. Paulina: Yeah. He died way too young. Like he was too young to die. Brandon: That... Foo... Definitely... Carson: How young? was really young. Brandon: I think those three right there are, can't top that. Paulina: Yeah. That's a trade-off. Brandon: Cut all that vlog. Paulina: Yeah, for sure. That's a trio. Yeah. Because I was also thinking like, yeah, Amy Winehouse, but she died like 20 years ago, that long ago, no. Carson: Hmm. She was so talented too though. That's a really sad story. Paulina: She was very talented, but... Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: Yeah, no, she was extremely talented, but at the same time, it's like when you look at the idea of like the other people who have contributed so much. mean, it's not to say that she didn't contribute to music because I mean, I have a vinyl record and like I absolutely love Amy, but her music, like she hadn't had enough time to actually make that much of an impact as where you look at somebody like Freddie Mercury. Brandon: Yeah. Is it right? Paulina: or I don't know, like even Bob Moorley. Brandon: think what she did with only one album was insanely impressive because that's all she had. But she made an impact that I mean, it was massive. But then once again, like you said, it's nothing in comparison to Freddie or Bob or Mike. Carson: one. Paulina: Michael or... for sure. Carson: It's crazy how much of an impact these people can have just through their music and through their persona, their personality. We, some people become obsessed, you know, as fans following and watching their every move and hanging on every word. But there's something so intoxicating about seeing somebody do what they love and not hold back. That's awesome. Paulina: One thing that, for sure. And speaking about this idea of people getting so intoxicated with this idea of that there is a famous person and whatever, it makes me think of boy bands. ⁓ Carson: And music is so cool for that. Paulina: Like I know back in like the 90s and even early 2000s, like board bands were the thing. Like, you know, you had like the Insync, had Backstreet Boys, probably so many other ones that like I'm not really aware of. But you also had the girl bands like Destiny's Child, I think it was TLC or so on. Ice Girls, yes. But now it's not so common. Brandon: Spice Girls. Carson: Took out Jason Waterfalls. Paulina: Like when I was still in high school like in middle school. Yes, we had like Jonas Brothers. You had One Direction Now like the boy bins are popular art from like k-pop. I don't know if you guys have noticed that as well Brandon: No, that's it. Carson: I know nothing about that world. Paulina: Me neither. Nothing. But absolutely nothing. I don't listen to K-pop. That's another type of music that like is so popular that I have like almost zero opinion on because I don't really listen to it. Carson: But it's true, it's so popular, I've had students say, my favorite type of music is K-pop. I'm like, that's cool, I wish I knew what that was. Paulina: Yeah. Like how does that even sound like? me think about it. I think there was like a group called BTS or BST or something like that. Yeah. Carson: But how? Thanks, BTS. Yeah, but how can you like something so much that you don't understand? Brandon: Why not? Paulina: you Hey, I mean, you probably listened to Gasolina when you were in middle school. Carson: I'm in love with the sun Brandon: I did a presentation on it. Paulina: What? No, now we didn't hear about it. What do you mean? Brandon: No, in my Spanish class, was in university. That was my first year in the university and we had to do a presentation on... I can't remember what it was. It's I... Did not. But I did it on that. did it, I guess, on reggaeton. It was about a guy, so, know, like show part of the video in class and part of the presentation. Carson: Did you like get down to twerk or? Paulina: I got twerking. Carson: share the video. Paulina: Okay. Carson: ⁓ my god, that's hilarious. And this is what they call Perrear. Brandon: good time. Paulina: Okay, interesting. Brandon: You Okay. Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: That all came later, that all came later. Paulina: I'm just Brandon twerking there. Carson: Okay, so hold up. I got something funny for you. remember these fucking things? Hold up. these fucking things? Stand up. Brandon: Bye. Yeah. Paulina: Is that mashed? No, it's not mashed, there's- Brandon: Yeah, that- Carson: Whatever they... What are these things even called? I don't even remember. It's so bright. There's so much light. Paulina: No, because there's another one, it was a math one. Like fortune tellers or something. Brandon: I don't know, but it's like the little kids making. Carson: Yeah, yeah, that's fortune tellers. I made these the other day and I'm translating for my students and putting little phrases, know, something simple like you win 100 euros, you're going to be an astronaut, you're going to be a millionaire. And then students want me to translate. And I'm thinking, should I tell them? So I asked the boss for approval and she's like, no, don't tell him. Brandon: Yeah Carson: that that word is twerk. What did you learn at English school today? I learned how to twerk. No, no, no, you didn't learn how to twerk. I taught you what the word was. Don't fire me. Don't sue me. And I was like, no, I'm not doing that. Is it not? Brandon: What the word? Paulina: Is it actually torque? Does it actually translate as work, sorry, Carson? Or does it translate as to grind? Because grinding and torquing are... Slightly different, Brandon: Yeah. See, that's the thing that, I mean, you can twerk by yourself, but use it to grind. That's a group activity. Paulina: You need another person. That's a whole sandwich of six people. Carson: Well, well, Brandon: ⁓ no, okay, Paulina: ⁓ Brandon: Alright. Carson: It was, it was funny. was like, yeah, that we're thinking of the same word, but I'm not going to tell you how to say it in English. kind of, kind of silly. ⁓ Paulina: But it makes you think, what the hell were we doing at the age of 13 grinding up middle school parties to gasolina and to other inappropriate songs? Carson: we were exploring our sexuality through music, like every other generation in the past. The dancing just got gradually and gradually more, there was more and more contact with dancing and it became more and more acceptable. Brandon: Meh. Paulina: Yeah ⁓ Carson: Dancing used to be much cooler if you think about it. Between, I mean, I'm talking about the average person. If you look at the style of dancing from, even from the twenties and all, they were throwing some moves that like nowadays you wouldn't, you'd just be like, how the fuck are you doing that? I've seen people there, it's quite common to see people, yeah, the moves are great. I think I, swinging and yeah, that stuff is not swinging, it's swinging and swinging. Paulina: could help us friendly. with the hips. Brandon: Now you swing, swing dancing. Paulina: Yes. how actually, you're right, we had a lot of cool dance moves, even looking back like early 2000, 90s and so on, like. People would know how to do the frickin' dougie, how to crank the Soulja Boy, do the stinky leg. You have dances, and now I'm like... You had the bye-bye dance, like, all of that, like... With the head bobs and everything. don't know if this happens anymore, Soulja Boy. ⁓ Carson: We were. Brandon: You had dancers. They don't do anything. Carson: Soldier boy. Brandon: It's so different. Carson: You! Paulina: Like people have dances now but it's on TikTok, you know? I don't know what you think. Brandon: Yeah, that's what they all do. Like on our trip on our trip this weekend, we stopped at the rest stop to go to the bathroom and get something to eat. And that's like they go get their phones out. They're we're to do TikTok dances. And a rest stop. Whatever. Carson: Haha. Yeah, that's a weird. Paulina: Yeah. What are some of the dances that you guys learned and you can present right ⁓ now? We're not going to show it now. Brandon: Alright. Alright. Carson: I'm not presenting shit. I don't For me it was just more or less finding rhythm through watching music videos and not looking like a complete idiot on the dance floor. I wouldn't say that I'm a great dancer but I do think I have rhythm thanks to... ⁓ thank you. ⁓ And I enjoy it. Most importantly I enjoy it. But yeah, without music videos and dancing in my room with the door closed I wouldn't have never gotten better. Paulina: Are you coming? Brandon: No, you have rhythm and you enjoy it. You can tell. Carson: So I thank MTV. I want to thank MTV. I want to thank The Box, VH, whatever that station was. But yeah, it's to be too. Brandon: Hux. MTV, MTV2, BET, VH1. Carson: BET had some videos from time to time. Although I felt like they were watching like, you're white son, you can't watch this channel. It's like, son, you are way too white to be watching this. Brandon: It's like, you guys turn it to it, it automatically changes the channel. It's like, what happened? Paulina: They're crazy. Brandon: No, you're it. Carson: Mom comes in, what are you watching BET for? Brandon: You're in Georgia. Carson: Fuck that. ETL shot him. Paulina: . Carson: Okay, Thanks for watching. ⁓ If you enjoyed this podcast, enjoyed this episode, please check our other episodes. Give us a like, follow, subscribe, and most importantly, just share it with somebody you know, tell them about it in person ⁓ and have a great day. y'all. Paulina: Bye. Brandon: Tschüss! Carson: Bye.