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The Sheehans of Ferraris Online: 50 Years of Passion, Precision, and Prancing Skunks · BREAK/FIX the Motorsports & Vehicle Enthusiast Variety Show

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BreakFix podcast is all about capturing the living history of people from
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all over the autosphere, from wrench turners and racers to artists, authors,
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designers, and everything in between.
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Our goal is to inspire a new generation of petrolheads that wonder.
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How did they get that job or become that person?
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The road to success is paved by all of us because everyone has a story.
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With over 50 years of experience as brokers of exotic cars
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specializing in Ferrari.
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Lamborghini, Maserati, and collections of other exotics.
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Ferraris Online was founded in 1972 by Michael Sheehan, offering experience as
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an expert witness regarding exotic car values, market trends, appraisals, and all
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aspects of repair and vehicle restoration.
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Ferraris Online is still run by Michael, who is now accompanied by his
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daughter Colleen and her husband, RJ and Colleen is here with us to share
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their story, starting with how they began Ferraris online by fixing crashed
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exotics for State Farm, USAA and the Auto Club insurance companies and
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quickly growing to be North America's largest Ferrari restoration shop.
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Joining me from Exotic Car Marketplace, along with other Brake Fix episodes
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like What Should I Buy Italian Cars, is my co host tonight, William Ross,
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to help me welcome Colleen to the show.
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So welcome aboard.
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Welcome to Brake Fix.
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Thank you very much.
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I'm glad to be here.
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Colleen, we normally always start a Brake Fix episode By asking for your
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superhero origin story, who, what, where, when, and why of the topic at hand.
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But in this case, we actually have to start even further back before
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you were talking about your dad, your dad started in motor sports.
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So let's dig into that.
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What kind of cars he got into Peyton body, all those kinds of things.
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So take us on that journey.
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It's actually such an interesting story and I love it.
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It's just.
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Something that you don't hear nowadays, especially.
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So my dad hitchhiked from Canada when he was 19 years old.
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He came down to California and he started working on VW buses.
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It happened in a very kind of weird way.
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Porsche broker around here would ship parts here to California using the buses
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and then basically cared about the parts.
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They really didn't care about the buses.
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So my dad started buying the buses from this Porsche guy and would
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kind of fix them up and sell them.
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This was in the late sixties, early seventies.
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So he helped with the whole VW bus, hippie.
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era.
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And then after doing that for a little while, he bought his first Ferrari.
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When he sold it, he made quite a bit of money on it.
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And so he decided I'm out of the VW bus business and I'm gonna start working
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on Ferraris and selling Ferraris.
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If I might ask, what was that first Ferrari?
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So the first Ferrari was a PF Coupe.
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I believe he bought it for my dad's in the other room.
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He bought it for 2, 000.
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And how much did you sell it for?
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2, 500 in 1960 seventies dollars.
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So we got to translate that for inflation, right?
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So that was really the kickoff of his business.
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So that would have been 1972.
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Was he racing that Ferrari at that time or was he racing other cars?
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So that was before he really got into racing.
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That kind of evolved with the business.
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So it started with the service and sales.
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And then very quickly after that got into racing.
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So you're working on.
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Specifically, I guess, restoring exotic cars, focusing on
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Ferrari, starting with that.
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How do you build that sort of clientele?
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Was it just because there weren't so many other people doing
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that kind of work at the time?
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Yeah, that's a big part of it.
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So back then there weren't as many dealers and brokers as there are today.
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It was also the world seemed a lot bigger, I guess, when you don't have the internet.
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If you own an exotic car and you're in this area and there was no one else to go
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to, then you go to that guy and word of mouth in a small community like the exotic
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car community, word spread really quickly.
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And that's kind of the only way to do it back then.
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How was your dad sourcing all the parts in that back in that time?
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Was he actually trying to source them back?
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from Italy, or was he like just going through junk yards or, I mean, how was
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he coming about getting all that stuff?
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Actually not sure how he got some of the parts back then,
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especially in the beginning.
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I know after years in the business, you have all the right connections, but I'm
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really actually not sure at first how he first started getting all the parts.
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Yeah.
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I can see that had to be quite a chore.
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Oh yeah.
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I could only imagine.
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That'd be a job in itself.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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Figuring all that out in the early seventies with a business that not
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many people are doing definitely must have been a huge challenge.
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And also being in California, a lot of the clients had to have been, let's call
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them Hollywood type celebrities, right?
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Because to afford a Ferrari, even then was grades above.
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Even some of the best sports cars, I mean, you compare it to the Porsches
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and they were cheap by comparison.
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I'm sure there's some interesting stories about folks that walked in the
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door wanting their Ferrari repaired or, or even restored or what have you.
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So any of those that you can share?
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Oh, yes.
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One of the things I found very interesting, my dad and I did kind
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of a breakdown one time because his client base, it actually used to
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be lawyers, doctors, contractors.
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Basically, if you owned.
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A big contracting company built houses or were a lawyer, a doctor.
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You could afford a Ferrari almost seemed like it wasn't so unattainable back then.
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I mean, for a lot of people, it still was, but now just the prices.
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Seems a lot harder nowadays, but some of the people, I mean, one of the things,
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besides just restoration and repair, my dad did a lot of the conversions.
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So like the Daytona spider conversions was a big one.
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My dad and Strayman were actually the two big Daytona conversion
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people, and they happened to be down the street from each other.
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That was a really big thing.
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And.
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Clint Eastwood actually wanted my dad to convert a boxer for him
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into a target top, which he did.
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There's been a couple of the celebrity cars that are pretty cool.
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And occasionally we'll come across some of the cars that he used to work on.
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Lots of the Daytona spiders have.
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Come back to us and we've sold them.
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Sometimes we'll get cars in.
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My dad used to put stickers in the windshield, you know, just the service
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sticker and I sold a three Oh eight that a guy had bought from my dad and
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still had all the service records.
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From the old shop and still had the little sticker in the window and all of that.
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So it's fun to see those cars come back around.
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Yeah, it's gotta be really cool.
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Oh yeah, definitely.
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Did your dad just like basically self taught himself how to do the repairs?
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Or, I mean, he had the mechanical aptitude to be able to.
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Get into it, engine, body work.
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I mean, I sound like he was pretty much doing everything and anything
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that needed to be done on the cart.
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Yeah.
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And then he did grow the business to where at one point he had 30 employees.
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So he had a head mechanic, head fabricator, all the guys.
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And funniest part is they're still around today.
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They run big shops of their own and they're.
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Some of the best in the business today.
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Well, you learn from the best, right?
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Yeah, you've got to.
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Sometimes we have to ask, you know, what's in a name.
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And so today you guys are recognized as Ferraris online, but in 1972, you
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weren't called Ferraris online yet.
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As the article in garage style magazine was put out the prancing skunk.
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Is that the original name of the company?
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Where did that name come from?
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How's the name of the business?
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evolved.
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So it's evolved quite a lot.
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The initial restoration shop, my dad's first business, it was
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actually called European Auto Sales and European Auto Restoration.
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Back in the early 70s, it was not a common name and it spoke
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for itself on what he did.
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So it was kind of perfect.
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For the time, whereas today, if you look, there's all kinds of European,
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you know, sales, European, something.
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So as time evolved, Ferrari's online came about because after many, many years in
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the restoration business, my dad decided he no longer wanted to restore cars.
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He just wanted to do sales.
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He didn't want a whole bunch of employees.
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And so he downsized and.
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Became Ferraris online, which was also a name that just kind of
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spoke for itself for what it was.
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They'll do business as far as online, but our official company
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name is prancing skunk automotive.
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That whole thing actually came about because of my dad racing back in the
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seventies, he would race all kinds of different Ferraris, but other
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cars as well, eventually he would buy a big race trailer and he put
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the prancing horse on the side of it.
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And Ferrari is a bit touchy.
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They don't like people who sell their cars and they don't make money off of it.
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So they were not a huge fan of my dad.
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They tried to sue him over having the prancing horse on the side of the trailer.
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The actual badge, the Ferrari badge, the shield, is non copyrightable,
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so Ferrari doesn't own the badge.
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So the only thing they actually own is the prancing horse itself.
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Kind of as a middle finger to Ferrari, him and my mom had
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designed the prancing skunk.
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And that replaced the horse, and it's just kind of stuck around ever since.
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It's unique.
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Where's the t shirts for those?
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I want a praising skunk t shirt.
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I have hats, actually.
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I have the stickers that are the exact size of the fender badges.
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Oh, really?
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Uh, yeah.
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So they fit right over the real fender badge on a Ferrari.
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And then I have some baseball caps.
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I've made jackets, all kinds of stuff.
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I would totally wear a prancing skunk t shirt.
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I think that's fabulous.
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Yeah, that'd be fantastic.
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It also reminds me of the Volvo guys with the prancing moose,
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like same kind of thing, right?
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So I think that's really slick.
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So let's dig into the racing just a little bit more.
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So you said your dad raced some Ferraris.
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What kind of Ferraris?
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And when he wasn't racing Ferraris, what else was he putting on the track?
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So he raced everything non Ferraris.
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So like Formula Ford and Formula Russell, he had a Corvette.
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He named Porky that he raced at the Long Beach Grand Prix.
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So many different cars, a Curtis, all kinds of stuff.
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But as far as Ferraris go, probably my favorite one he's raced.
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Was the 1957 Testarossa, pontoon fender, Lucy Bell, the white
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one with the blue stripe, and he raced that in the Mille Miglia.
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I mean, he's raced the 1970s, 512 M, 206 SP, 750 Monza.
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He's owned a lot of comp Daytonas and raced numerous comp Daytonas.
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Actually the cool one.
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So the comp Daytona is one of my favorite cars.
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There was 15 original comp Daytonas, and then a prototype.
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He actually bought the prototype in the seventies and used it
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as his daily driver for years.
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Hey listeners, they have one for sale right now too.
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Just FYI.
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We do.
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And that one, I don't mind if it sits in the showroom for a while.
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Probably a little selfish on my part, but I just love it so much.
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Turn some heads, driving that into that cars and coffee or if
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you just went to over a week last week, I saw that post on that.
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I saw that must've made it an entrance.
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Oh yeah.
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It's loud and you know, it stands out as a presence, but it's awesome.
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Yeah, and I don't know why I love those cars.
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So, I mean, I know why, but they're not the most comfortable.
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They have a heavy clutch, no power steering.
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They're really heavy to try and drive around town.
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They're meant for high speeds, but I think that's part of the
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charm of them, in my opinion.
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I agree.
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So coming up through the seventies in the Ferrari world, you're still in that sort
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of transitional period from the classic.
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I want to call them the flowing bodies or the round bodies.
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Like when it started with like the 57 Testarossa forward, those nice, like
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almost Aston Martin looking bodied Ferraris, not to make that comparison,
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Ferraris or Ferraris, but you get to the seventies and then you got the Dino.
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Which made a huge right turn for Ferrari.
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And then the dawn of the 308, I've said it jokingly before the 308 and the 360
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as well, were two of the Ferraris that sort of kept Ferrari people in business,
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just like the 944 did for Porsche, right?
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It was like every man's car if you were in that market.
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So during that time, did you guys see a lot of, let's say 308s coming through
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and things like that, where that was.
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The hot ticket item?
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Yeah.
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Well, the 3 0 8 was Ferrari's first real mass produced car
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across the different variants.
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They've made over 12,000 of them back then.
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That was crazy.
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Previously, I mean, the Daytona's, they only made less than 1300
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Dino's, a couple thousand.
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That was their first really big production car, and it was a huge
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hit, and it was definitely helped by the whole Magnum PI thing, but also.
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A lot of people do forget about the Dino 308, the 308 GT4.
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And that was the interim car between the two, which was not as popular.
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So they went to the Bertone style body design, which was
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the very wedgie angular look.
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When it first came out, people were kind of like, Oh, I don't know about this.
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But then they revised it with the 308 we come to know today, and it had a little
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more, I don't even want to say curve.
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It just wasn't quite the same harsh angle.
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So it was more widely accepted.
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And by that time, Bertone started to make a name for himself.
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I mean, with the Monte Estrados, a bunch of other cars, it was a very popular look.
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So it definitely caught on really quick.
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Before we move on to our next segment, because I think there's
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a whole conversation around buying Ferraris, and I'm understanding
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what to buy and things like that.
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It's part of what you guys do, not just a restoration part and whatnot.
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I got to ask this pit stop question because you just dropped some
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vehicles on us that you really like, but are Ferraris the sexiest cars?
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Is there a Ferrari that's the sexiest of all time?
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Or is there something for you that is even more beautiful than any Ferrari?
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No, it'd be Ferraris.
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It'd definitely be Ferraris pinpointing it down to one, probably not Lucy Bell.
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But the other 250 Testarossa pontoon fender, it's black and it
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has a red stripe around the nose.
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That car has to be the sexiest car of all time.
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It is just drop dead gorgeous.
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That one I think has to win.
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I'm of a different school of thoughts.
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I mean, I'm a huge.
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F40 fan, you know, it's the last car that Enzo blessed before he left us.
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It's just, I don't know, there's something just about that car.
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I just saw one again the other day in person and it's just, it
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blows my mind every time I see one.
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So that for me is always the top of the list, but the 57 Testarossa for sure.
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Gorgeous car, but the antithesis of that, right?
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The ugliest car of all time.
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Is there such thing as an ugly Ferrari?
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If you put it just in the realm of Ferrari, there's gorgeous Ferraris and
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then there's a couple ugly Ferraris.
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Now if you put them in the realm of cars in general, definitely I would take the
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ugliest Ferrari over lots of other cars.
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There's lots of other cars that would definitely be, in my opinion, uglier.
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If I had to pick, please say the Mondial T, please.
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I was actually, that was going to have to say.
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The Mondial is, uh, not high on my favorite list.
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You hear that folks?
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It is now confirmed by an expert.
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Weird science killed that car.
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But if you take that car and put it up next to a whole bunch of other
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non Ferrari cars, looks wise, I would probably still pick that one, but.
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I know the maintenance that comes along with them and a
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lot of the reliability issues.
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There's some that are very well serviced and maintained, but for the
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most part, I've had more of those leave me stranded on the side of the
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road with an ugly car than actually.
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You know, do real well for me, maybe they just don't like me either.
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So maybe the feeling's mutual.
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That's a great follow up to where we're going with this.
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William was with us recently and we did an episode all about buying
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Italian cars specifically targeted towards the first time collector.
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So now we're going to hone in a little further and talk about Ferrari.
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We mentioned before the 308.
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They're so plentiful.
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That's sort of the gateway.
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Into the Ferrari world.
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If you're going to buy a Ferrari, where should people start?
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Should they start that far back?
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Is there something more modern?
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Is there something that's more of a compromised car to get
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you into the world of Ferrari?
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That then lets you sort of build up from there.
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What should people consider if they're looking to buy a Ferrari
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that is very much dependent on.
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Each individual person, some people would probably prefer something a little more
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modern three sixties and four thirties are always kind of a good beginner choice.
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I'd say a four 30 cause they don't have the cam belt.
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So the service requirements are a little less.
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The three Oh eight is great.
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If you want a good classic, that is fairly reliable because they have
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pretty bulletproof ECUs and they're.
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Not horrid to work on and parts are readily available
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because they made so many.
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So you're not going to get killed trying to find parts, but I also think that
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you should buy whatever you'll be happy looking at in your garage, you know,
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and happy driving down the street.
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I deal with so many different buyers.
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Some of them are investors where they're buying cars.
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Cause they think in a few years they'll be worth more.
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I have buyers who are, you know, just enthusiasts who just really like
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certain cars and everything in between say your favorite car is the Mondial,
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you know, or, or whatever it is that.
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You really want that you look at and it just makes you happy.
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That's what you should go for.
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My biggest recommendation would be to buy the best car you can afford.
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Don't buy something cheaper.
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Cause it seems like a deal.
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Cause usually when that happens, you get eaten up in deferred maintenance costs
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and other issues that could pop up if you can, depending on the budget, get the best
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car you can for whatever your budget is.
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The 308 is a good starter.
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If I had to pick a couple of good starter Ferraris, 308s are great.
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360s or 430s are great.
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So those would probably be my two go to kind of starters.
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I've got a couple I want to throw at you just to get your feedback.
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So a lot of people don't realize, but I've brought it up before, and I brought
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it up on the Italian car episode.
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What about the 208 Turbo?
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Same body, smaller engine?
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Oh, yeah, no.
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I Those are just gutless until the turbo kicks in and then it's there.
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No, that's so eighties though.
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You look at the nine 11s and the Audi Quattros and the Renault
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fives and you have to have that period appropriate turbo lag.
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That's what I like to call it.
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Definitely period appropriate packs a little punch, but they're not
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the worst, but just they're quirky.
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We'll get to that.
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So another one that.
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comes up is the four or five, six GT out of the four 56 line, the
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M series is a bit better because they made some improvements.
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Basically they had valve guide issues at first, long story short, it would
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cause a lot of smoking, quite expensive.
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If you ever have to fix that.
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If you have a four 56 GT, one of the earlier ones, or you're looking to buy
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one, my big recommendation is see if the valve guides have already been done.
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Because if not, it could cause a problem in the future that would
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be very expensive to resolve.
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The M has taken care of those issues with some other upgrades.
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So overall, just a bit more reliable.
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They're both great cars.
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So those are definitely a good option.
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And I hear a lot of people say, I'm going to buy a 430 Scud and put a 6 speed in it.
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How do you feel about the converted cars?
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I don't mind.
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I know that there's plenty of purists who hate anything converted.
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The 430s are easy to convert because they made so many factory 430 6 speeds.
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The parts are much more easy to find.
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Plenty of good shops that could do that conversion.
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Once you get into the more limited edition cars.
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So we actually just sold today a 599 6 speed conversion.
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The problem with those conversions is they only made 30 factory 599 six speeds.
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That means you really can't get the original part.
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And the four thirties had used shift cables.
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Whereas the five nine nines use shift rods.
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When the conversion on the car I just sold started, they tried to fabricate
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the rods, but there was vibration issues.
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Just couldn't get it right.
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They wanted to go with cables, but the owner really just wanted the factory.
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So we sent the car somewhere else and they were actually able to source the factory
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original, like from the factory parts and to have those installed in the car.
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Well, that's great.
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But then the next problem is the more modern the car, the
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more complicated the computers.
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So getting the transmission to.
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Speak correctly with the rest of the computer and everything actually
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function without warning lights and all kinds of things going
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wrong is very difficult to do.
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Luckily, the mechanic is a computer genius and was able to make
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everything function seamlessly.
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So it drives just like the factory.
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6 speed 599.
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But doing that is extremely difficult.
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430s, go for it just because it's not hard to do and I don't care
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what people do with their own cars.
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Do what makes you happy.
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But for stuff like the 599...
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Be aware, it's a lot more difficult and it's going to cause some headaches in
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the future while you're trying to do it.
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The darker side of that conversation you alluded to earlier, when we were
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joking about the Mondial T and how it leaves you on the side of the road.
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And, you know, people are scared of Ferraris.
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We even talked about this in some other episodes.
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It's like an engine is an engine is an engine.
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If you can figure out how to take it apart without breaking it, you
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know, you probably can work on it.
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There are some, let's say reliability issues with the Mondial T that
22:53
might be one to stay away from.
22:55
I've heard some horror stories about the three 48, the three 55 with the
22:59
joystick, you know, things like that.
23:00
So are there Ferraris that are just a little bit more troublesome?
23:04
I don't want to call them bad.
23:05
I just want to call them maybe a little bit more temperamental or labor intensive.
23:09
That you should be aware of if you're shopping.
23:11
Yes, absolutely.
23:13
And that doesn't mean that just cause I named one car, they're all bad.
23:18
There's just certain models that have known issues that could go wrong.
23:23
Just like with the, the four 56, the valve guides, it doesn't mean
23:27
every four 56 is going to be bad.
23:29
It just means that it's something to be aware of.
23:33
And especially if you're looking to buy one, you just
23:35
want to do your due diligence.
23:38
I know it could be an issue in the future if it's not something that's
23:40
already been taken care of or other cars like the 355 Spyder with the top
23:45
issues, even if that's been taken care of before doesn't mean it can't break
23:49
again, other cars have reoccurring issues.
23:53
So there's no lack of Ferrari models that do have their issues.
23:59
You know, their problems that could, and quite often do occur for me personally.
24:04
I've grown up around these cars my whole life.
24:06
It's kind of like, Oh, okay.
24:08
Well, the dash and the six 12 went out.
24:10
Take it to the shop, get it fixed.
24:11
Cause that's something the 612s, the 599s, they're pretty solid cars, but
24:16
the dash is a weak point for them.
24:18
It's happened plenty of times.
24:20
So for me, I'm just like, okay, well gotta go get that taken care of.
24:24
But I know for a lot of people who don't deal with so many cars all the time,
24:28
it's a big deal and it is expensive when that kind of stuff happens.
24:32
Kind of part of the territory though, out of all the cars that
24:35
we mentioned and plenty of others that we haven't, is there one that
24:38
sort of just checks all the boxes?
24:40
That's great at everything, right?
24:41
You can take it up in the canyons.
24:43
You could autocross it, maybe take it to the track.
24:45
You could show it, you could drive it to work.
24:47
Is there one that just does it all?
24:48
I think that's a very individual question for me.
24:51
That would be the comp Daytona.
24:53
I would drive that everywhere.
24:54
You can take that to the track, take that to the canyons, puts a smile
24:57
on my face every time I start it.
24:59
But I know a large majority of people probably wouldn't want to drive that
25:02
around everywhere because it, you wrestle with it, you know, it is difficult to
25:06
drive, goes back to what I said about buy what makes you happy, whatever that car
25:11
is, that just puts a smile on your face.
25:13
Go with that one.
25:14
Well, now we're going to switch gears a little bit and we're going to talk
25:17
about an area of this business that both you and William are familiar with.
25:21
And that's the buying and selling a brokering of these cars.
25:24
So it's more than just having a passion and a love and
25:27
saying, I want that red one.
25:29
Or that yellow one.
25:30
There's a whole process to buying a Ferrari.
25:33
It's not, let's say, as easy as, you know, just running down to CarMax kind of deal.
25:37
So let's get into buying, selling, consigning, online
25:41
versus traditional, and maybe your thoughts on auctions, specifically
25:44
those that do feature Ferraris.
25:46
Sure.
25:47
It's not just one kind of set thing.
25:49
We do a lot of consignments.
25:50
We buy and sell.
25:52
We sometimes just middleman broker where we know somebody who owns a car and
25:58
somebody asked me to find them that car.
26:00
And I kind of put it together.
26:02
So cars never on consignment with me and it was never really for sale.
26:06
I just know of buyer and seller and put it together.
26:10
So a lot of different sides to our business.
26:13
Each car, because they're so different, each deal ends up being very different,
26:17
which is part of the fun of it.
26:19
It's never mundane.
26:20
It's never boring.
26:21
Always have to learn something new.
26:23
It's always something new and different.
26:25
Currently we have behind me, the showroom, we have about 4, 000 square
26:29
feet, probably about 25 cars in there.
26:31
Some we've bought a lot on consignment.
26:33
Luckily my dad, since he's been doing this for 51 years now, he's
26:38
built a very large client base.
26:40
And I started working with him about 10 years ago, and I've been
26:45
around the cars my whole life.
26:47
So when you're in this business, a lot of people just see expensive cars and
26:53
think they can make a bunch of money.
26:55
From what I've found, those people don't really last that long.
26:58
It's not like real estate.
26:59
It's not like, okay, if I sell a million dollar house, I can get 4%.
27:03
You have to have a passion for what you do.
27:07
Otherwise, there's lots of options with other dealers and brokers where people
27:11
can go elsewhere with someone that just kind of meshes with them better.
27:15
Having a real interest and passion for these cars does make a huge
27:20
difference in this business.
27:21
So now that a lot of things are much more digital, going back
27:24
to the Ferrari's online part of your name and your evolution.
27:28
More things are online, you know, the advent of things like bring a
27:32
trailer have really changed the way we look at buying and selling cars.
27:36
Do you see traditional sales still being the thing?
27:39
Do you have people coming in the showroom?
27:40
Are you doing more things virtually now?
27:42
We've done things virtually for a long time with so many years in the
27:46
business, having a good reputation helps.
27:49
When somebody calls me asking about a car I have, and I tell them everything I know
27:53
about it, and I'll tell them everything.
27:56
I don't want there to be any surprises if they buy the car when it gets delivered.
28:00
And I also always recommend they have a pre purchase inspection
28:05
done if they would like.
28:06
Many times people will buy cars either because they know our
28:10
reputation and they know that what I'm telling them about it is.
28:14
How the car is, or they'll have it inspected.
28:17
If it clears a third party inspection, then they're happy with it.
28:20
So for a long time, it's been a lot of just online business, which is why we
28:27
started doing all the videos with the cars, because seeing static photos is
28:33
nice, but you want to hear it start.
28:36
You want to see it run through the gears.
28:37
That was a big part of it.
28:39
Since everything is going more online nowadays than having a
28:43
good video is very important.
28:45
So you mentioned investing in exotic cars and obviously you guys
28:49
carry brands other than Ferraris.
28:51
We mentioned in the introduction, Maseratis, Lamborghinis, and we'll
28:54
talk about some of your YouTube videos with some very pretty Porsches as well.
28:59
Cause there's different car markets, right?
29:01
Especially in the Italian car market.
29:03
How does it weather the storm?
29:05
You know, looking at our economic.
29:07
Climate over the last couple of years.
29:08
Has it maintained, has it been pretty steady?
29:11
Is it rocky?
29:12
Like what does it look like in the market space?
29:14
It's interesting because the market's cyclical.
29:17
What goes up must come down, whether it's exotic cars, real estate, stock,
29:22
whatever it is, it's all part of the market and you have good months and
29:26
bad months or good years and bad years.
29:28
The last couple of years have been very interesting.
29:31
When 2020 hit and the lockdown started, sales stopped for about a month.
29:37
People who had been in the middle of buying a car with me would call me
29:42
up and say, my stocks just tanked.
29:45
I have to back out, sorry, which I understood, but after about
29:49
a month, people started getting bored and window shopping, there
29:54
was a real uptick in sales.
29:57
And that continued for the last couple of years were really good.
30:02
Recently, the economy's seen some rough patches that has had an effect.
30:08
So sales slowed a little, but what is really interesting to me is.
30:14
Back to the sales thing real quick.
30:15
We have kind of two separate things where we do what we
30:18
advertise and then the quiet deals.
30:20
What we advertise on our website is not everything we have for sale
30:24
or are in the middle of selling.
30:26
Quietly, we're always selling all kinds of bigger stuff that people
30:30
don't want publicly advertised.
30:31
When the market recently kind of took a little slump that
30:35
hit the showroom style cars.
30:38
Pretty hard, the 308s and that kind of area of cars, but behind the
30:43
scenes, we had more requests than ever for the 288s, F40s, F50s, all
30:51
the bigger cars, especially of that kind of era right there, the supercar,
30:56
those have been very popular and seem very untouched by the economy.
31:02
So not all cars.
31:05
are hit equally when the market is hit in any given way.
31:10
So it sounds like, if I infer correctly here, that it's still a
31:14
good time to invest in a higher end Ferrari, even in today's climate.
31:19
Well, I definitely believe that a lot of these cars are good long term investments.
31:27
I can't, and won't even pretend to try and predict what tomorrow's market may bring.
31:34
But years from now, the F40, it is a poster car for so many
31:41
people, not only older generation, but younger generations too.
31:45
So when you have the 20 year olds and 30 year olds and 40
31:49
year olds who love the F40.
31:52
And had that poster on their wall in five or 10 years when they have their
31:57
own company and can afford their dream car, then that's what they're going to
32:01
be buying five years out, 10 years out, those cars are still going to do really
32:06
well because they're the poster car.
32:09
Now, eventually that'll change and it'll become something else.
32:12
In my dad's era, the poster car would have been, you know, one of the old two
32:17
fifties or a two 75 or one of those cars.
32:21
And that was the poster car back in his generation.
32:24
And today, if you ask a 25 year old, what an F40 is, yeah, they're going to know.
32:30
If you ask them what a two 75 GTB four cam is, they might look at you.
32:34
Like you just spoke a different language, the generation shift.
32:38
But this current generation, this one of that kind of era
32:42
car will last for a while.
32:43
Cause the 280 F40 F50, like the big five today have reached
32:48
quite a few generations.
32:49
It appeals to so many people that I think those ones will last for quite a while.
32:55
And the same could be said about Lamborghini, right?
32:57
With the Miura and the Countach and Diablo's and so on.
33:00
Oh yeah.
33:00
I agree with everything you're saying.
33:02
I mean, it's absolutely correct.
33:03
I mean, it's.
33:03
You know, the generation, they know what those cars are.
33:05
I think it helped to, uh, with the video games, like a Gran Turismo.
33:08
So they have put those in there and having those in there.
33:11
So these kids can play it.
33:12
So they know what those cars are.
33:13
But then to her point also is you tell them what a two 75, four came as you
33:17
write, you're like, what, uh, who.
33:18
Yep.
33:19
Which unfortunately, cause they're such a gorgeous car.
33:21
I mean, it's like, it's what they're familiar with their eyes
33:24
and seeing it, what they deal with.
33:25
And those things are be good for the next 20, 30 years.
33:28
That's how much you appreciate who knows, but they'll go up in value.
33:32
Either they'll go up quickly, then level go up.
33:34
Yeah.
33:34
And it says, keep going up, but if you got the money, buy one.
33:38
We continue to funnel down in our purchasing here, but our,
33:42
our buying power increases as I continue to us down this path.
33:45
So being a.
33:47
Motorsports petrol head growing up around the racetrack.
33:50
You're right.
33:51
The F40 was the poster on the wall next to the Testarossa and the Countach and a
33:55
lot of other cars that were on my wall.
33:57
But just to the right of that were things like the 333 SP, you know,
34:02
the IMSA GT car, the prototype car.
34:05
And then you have things like Schumacher's V10.
34:08
So should people also turn their attention towards the motorsport
34:12
side of Ferrari for like the F40 Evos and a lot of the challenge cars?
34:17
Those good investments as well.
34:18
It very much depends.
34:20
So as far as the Formula One cars, those have been great investments.
34:26
We have sold quite a few of those.
34:28
The prices always amazed me and the prices have only continued to go up.
34:33
So an F40 is a dream car, but the Formula One cars, that's
34:37
a different kind of dream.
34:39
That's almost, even if you are a billionaire, that's.
34:42
A dream on a different level, because most people can get in an F40 and drive
34:47
one if they have the money to buy one.
34:49
Whereas the Formula One car is not nearly the same.
34:52
You might not even be able to fit in it.
34:54
If you do, then you have to be very skilled in order to To actually
34:59
drive it, even if it's at, you know, six tenths of its potential,
35:03
even just driving it carefully around the track takes some skill.
35:08
Those are kind of a different level, but on the opposite
35:12
side, they're also pieces of.
35:14
art and history.
35:15
I've had lots of clients who buy them because it's literally if you
35:20
already have everything else in your showroom, what else can you add?
35:23
That's kind of just the cherry on top.
35:26
And that'd be a Schumacher F1 car.
35:28
So we've had lots of people who have bought Schumacher F1 cars just.
35:33
To have that gorgeous historical piece of art sitting in the
35:38
middle of their showroom.
35:39
I've had lots of clients who do buy them to race them.
35:42
There's a program through Ferrari cliente where if you pay Ferrari enough,
35:47
they will have your car waiting for you at the track with your race suit
35:51
and the lunch ready and the mechanics all there, everything you could need.
35:55
You just pay them a couple hundred grand and, uh, you can go racing.
35:59
We all gravitate to Schumacher, right?
36:01
Eight time champion or.
36:03
Or whatever, a Formula 1 in Ferrari, you know, he ran many other cars
36:06
even before his time at Ferrari.
36:08
But there's other drivers that carried the banner too, right?
36:12
You got Barry Kelly, you've got Eddie Irvine, you've got Alan
36:14
Prost, Nigel Mansell, Berger.
36:17
I mean, the list goes on and on.
36:18
So do those older Formula 1 cars carry the same kind of, let's say value?
36:24
I mean, they, they have a different.
36:25
Provenance, but what do they look like in the market?
36:28
Are they all just sort of tucked away?
36:30
I mean, a lot of them are tucked away, but it depends.
36:33
So like the Niki Lada, the three 12 T2, that one is very
36:38
recognizable, recognizable driver.
36:40
That one would demand a big premium.
36:43
Part of the generational shift.
36:45
People do tend to move towards the Schumacher cars just because
36:50
that era and the name is.
36:52
So recognizable, but Nikki Lotta's definitely another big name.
36:57
We did sell Kimi Raikkonen car, his championship car, and
37:01
that one went for good amount.
37:03
So there are definitely other names that people love and want and remember
37:09
the names, remember the races.
37:11
But Schumacher is the biggest, just hands down.
37:15
He's the biggest.
37:15
Just because of the era and what he did just sticks in people's mind.
37:20
I mean, he was.
37:21
Unprecedented time is how many championships everything and what
37:24
he did and everything like that.
37:25
So, I mean, he just stood out.
37:26
He was a fabulous driver, but you know, I'm a bit older.
37:29
So I look more back at the older generation guys and what they
37:33
drove and yeah, just the raw car.
37:35
I mean, there was, didn't have ABS, any of that kind of stuff.
37:38
So.
37:38
I have a lot more appreciation for those guys back at that day, like with
37:41
louder, Jules Villeneuve, you know, but then you go back to Jimmy Clark
37:44
and, you know, Phil Hill, those guys.
37:46
Oh yeah.
37:47
I appreciate those guys that much more just because of
37:50
one, what they were driving.
37:51
And two, I mean, look how many people died just every weekend.
37:54
And so it's.
37:56
Big respect for those guys back then.
37:57
But yeah, Kelly's correct.
37:58
The fact is, you know, it's what people they have in their head and their mind,
38:01
but they watched racing, then they can afford it now it's in their living room or
38:06
if they can fit in it, they can drive it.
38:08
It's one of those things.
38:09
So, but it kind of boils down to personal preference in regards to that.
38:13
Yeah.
38:13
I agree that the Schumacher cars, they're just going to keep
38:15
going up in value for a while.
38:16
Oh yeah.
38:17
I agree with you.
38:18
I like the older cars.
38:20
that were more raw and harder to drive the older generation of drivers
38:26
just in the market in general.
38:28
Schumacher is, he takes top in the market.
38:30
Yeah.
38:31
Not my personal feeling.
38:33
That's just what I've noticed.
38:35
Lastly, on the conversation of buying and selling Ferraris and other exotics,
38:39
what are your thoughts on the auctions?
38:41
Feel like they're seeing a resurgence.
38:43
These days, you are seeing more Ferraris and other exotic showing up
38:47
at places, you know, like Meekum and broad arrow and other things like that.
38:51
So is that an avenue that people should consider should pursue?
38:56
Auctions are very interesting because from a buyer's perspective.
39:02
You have a little bit of time beforehand to go look at the car.
39:07
Maybe they'll let you start it or they'll start it for you, but you can't drive it.
39:10
You can't put it on a lift and have a real inspection done.
39:14
And then when it comes down to buying the car, you have a couple minutes.
39:18
To bid as it rolls across the block and that's it.
39:22
So from a buyer's perspective, it is a fun time.
39:26
It's a fun way to buy a car.
39:27
Have some friends there, have a couple drinks, bid at the auction.
39:31
It's fun.
39:32
But if you are looking seriously at the car and the quality of the car and
39:38
you want a good inspection, all that kind of stuff, then you just don't
39:42
have enough time at the auctions.
39:44
There's no real way to have a good inspection and to know
39:48
all the details about the car.
39:50
There's pluses and minuses.
39:52
So if you're a seller, then the exact kind of scenario works for sellers too,
39:57
where your car is crossing the block.
39:59
There's a couple of minutes.
40:00
And if you have the right buyers in the room, you do great.
40:03
If you don't have the right buyers in the room, it doesn't
40:05
sell or it sells for a low price.
40:07
With the auctions, it's kind of a attempt to get lucky.
40:11
Sometimes it's a good gamble and you win.
40:13
And sometimes it's a bad gamble and you don't win.
40:17
And my point for bringing it up is that I feel that what you do, Colleen,
40:21
and what William does as well, dealing in this market space is that.
40:24
It's that personal touch that's really, really important to say, well, you know,
40:28
maybe I am the lowly owner of a Monday LT and I want to find it a new home
40:33
and you're going to help me do that.
40:34
And it's not that, well, I'm going to take it to X, Y, Z auction
40:38
and hope that it sells and be satisfied with what I get for it.
40:43
Right.
40:43
And it's not always about the money sometimes, at least for me.
40:46
And I know for a lot of other petrol heads, it's about knowing that
40:48
it's going on to a better place.
40:50
And sometimes with auctions, you can look at it the other way.
40:52
You kind of wonder like.
40:53
Did that car get passed up?
40:54
Like it wasn't good enough to be sold through a caretaker.
40:58
For me, there's lots of angles in that conversation, but I want people to kind
41:01
of realize they've got more choices than to just kind of put it out there.
41:05
Yeah.
41:05
Kyle mentioned before, like her father being in it so long and there's a
41:09
reason he has, they both have, that rather large I'll say black book of
41:13
names, contacts, networks, and why those people keep coming back because it's a
41:17
relationship and they trust them to know the fact is they get a car from them.
41:21
They know they're not going to drive it half a block away.
41:24
It's going to catch on fire or some breakdown.
41:26
They're going to come back and, you know, you get that repeat business.
41:28
As that adage is, you know, that person tells two people, those two people
41:32
tell four, you know, so it's getting your reputation, go to an auction,
41:35
especially if you had too many cocktails, you get caught in the thing, you
41:37
end up paying too much money for it.
41:39
All right.
41:40
All you can do is go look at it for a couple of minutes and straight.
41:42
They started to me.
41:43
I'm not a big fan of that.
41:45
And I could never understand why someone would go by especially
41:48
a couple hundred thousand dollar car, let alone multimillion
41:51
dollar car at an auction because.
41:53
I would be scrutinizing the heck out of it to be sure I know what I'm getting.
41:56
So again, it's everyone's own preference.
41:59
It is.
41:59
So if you're looking at some of the very expensive cars that cross the
42:03
auction block, I've had clients who have asked me to look at the car,
42:08
talk to the auction beforehand.
42:11
So sometimes I'll contact an auction weeks beforehand to get.
42:15
Extra information and details on a car for a client.
42:18
A lot of times they will do that, especially when you get into the
42:22
higher dollar cars, if they provide more information, they try harder.
42:26
You're trying to buy a three 60 at auction.
42:29
They're not going to spend days answering every little question
42:32
you have before the auction.
42:34
They don't care.
42:35
They have hundreds of cars running through and don't have time for that.
42:40
Does kind of depend on the car you're buying at auction.
42:43
What do you think the percentage is at auctions that it's dealers buying the
42:47
cars as to compare and it's an actual person buying the car for themselves?
42:53
It is a good percent.
42:54
I talked to him and they asked me about it and I asked him, I go, look,
42:57
I go, you're They are competing against a majority of those people in that
43:00
crowd are dealers buying those cars.
43:02
And they're used to that.
43:03
Okay.
43:04
Look at a car and evaluate what to do it.
43:05
You know, as someone's buying for themselves, you know, it's got
43:07
an emotional investment in it.
43:09
Oh yeah.
43:09
I don't think a lot of people realize that in those auctions, that there's
43:12
a just ton of dealers that are in there buying cars just for inventory.
43:15
Oh yeah.
43:16
It happens a lot.
43:16
And you know, dealers buy cars at auctions and sell them at auctions.
43:20
Dealers a lot of times will have very close relationships with auction houses.
43:24
So there's a good percentage of that, which isn't a bad thing.
43:28
I mean, there's nothing fake about it.
43:30
If a dealer buys a car at auction, he thought it was a good price.
43:34
And so he buys it.
43:36
He's selling one at auction.
43:37
He thinks it'll be a good auction for that car.
43:39
And that's how he sells it.
43:41
It's very upfront.
43:42
At least.
43:43
Sometimes when you see the sell through rate at auctions, you
43:47
have to take that into account.
43:48
You know, Monterey Car Week isn't all just this huge chunk of end user buyers
43:54
that put their money in the auctions.
43:55
It's time for another Pit Stop question.
43:57
So you can't talk about Ferrari without talking about motor sports.
44:01
We've crossed that threshold several times in this episode.
44:03
So I wonder Colleen, Ferraris have been run in a multitude of different
44:09
racing disciplines from grassroots sports car racing through world
44:13
challenge and IMSA in GT3 and GT4.
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Obviously they had prototypes back in the day and then in formula one.
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So if you had to turn on the television and say, I'm going to
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watch a Ferrari race this weekend.
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What discipline of racing would it be in and why?
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So honestly, my favorite form of racing to watch is rally cars.
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Oh, there we go.
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Hallelujah.
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Finally, somebody, I felt like I'm the only person on the planet that likes WRC.
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Oh, no.
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It's incredible, especially I love the Lancia rally cars.
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Those are incredible.
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I grew up in the group B era.
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So for me, I have a soft spot for it.
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Group B.
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I mean, I understand why they had to cancel it, but that was one of the
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best forms of racing to ever exist.
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Seeing as Ferrari never actually got into rally racing, they made a couple
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of cars trying never got one in.
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So it'd have to be F1 just because the history behind formula one.
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Today's races, they're fun to watch, but I personally, I end up watching
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clips from old races more than I do new races of just about anything.
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I just love the older era and probably the older era, it was much
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more visceral and raw and dangerous.
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It's still dangerous today, but I'm happy they've made such safety improvements
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because I definitely don't want to see any drivers get hurt or killed.
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But back in the day, it was just so dangerous and raw.
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These guys knew when they strapped themselves into these cars that
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they may not go home that night.
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That in itself is just incredible to me.
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And they go out there and go so fast, do so well.
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They're incredible.
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So, I think...
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I'd rather just watch old F1 on rerun.
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So with the hundredth anniversary of Le Mans right around the corner,
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what are your feelings on how Ferrari has teased us about a new prototype
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coming and competing in the LMDH class?
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What are your thoughts on Ferrari returning to Le Mans?
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I would love it.
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When I first saw that car, my phone started going nuts
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right when they released it.
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And I had four people texting me photos of that car.
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And I was just like, what is this?
46:30
And I got very excited.
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That'll be fun to see.
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I bring it up because Ferrari has been an important piece of history across
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not only the automotive industry, but in motor sports as well, to me as
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utilitarian and perfect as Porsche's can be right there, an engineering
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company at the end of the day.
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But a lot of times people forget the Ferrari is too.
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They've always pushed the envelope and forced, let's say the rest of
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the Italian makers to follow them and suit being all partnered together.
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But also I can't find a single brand that doesn't say.
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I built a car to compete with Ferrari.
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It just, it doesn't happen.
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It doesn't matter if you're, you know, an American brand, Japanese brand, you
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know, German, whatever, everybody's comparing themselves to Ferrari.
47:16
And so I'm really curious to see what they do at Le Mans and some
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of the other endurance races.
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Because for me, I think it transcends even what they do in formula
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one, because formula one has this recipe that they have to follow.
47:28
It's like a spec race.
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You know, it's like all the Miatas are the same, but in endurance racing, the
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car doesn't have to run for 90 minutes.
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It has to run for 24 hours straight, you know, at LeMans or Rolex or whatever.
47:40
So I really want to see how they take everybody.
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Into the next hundred years of sports car and prototype racing.
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So I'm with you.
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I'm super excited.
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I'm stoked to see what happens.
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And I bet they're going to surprise everybody.
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And people forget that Enzo Ferrari did not care about his street cars.
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He only cared about the race cars.
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He basically sold street cars in order to fund his racing.
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So it is literally the heart and soul of Ferrari is their race cars.
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And when that didn't work anymore, he just got Fiat to pay for it.
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That's what I've heard.
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No, no, exactly.
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That's exactly what I did.
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He was like, okay, sure.
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I'll sell to Fiat.
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They'll take care of the street cars.
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I don't care about anyways.
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So I just can keep running the race shop.
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It's the art, it's the passion, it's all of it.
48:30
It all wraps up into everything we've been talking about here and why these
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cars are so sought after and why there's people like yourselves that specialize
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them and keep those legacies going.
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So that's super important.
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Now, as we kind of round out the conversation here about Ferraris
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online, now the prancing skunk, you guys, as I mentioned before,
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cater to more than just Ferraris.
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So let's talk a little bit more about some of the other cars that you sell and some
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of the cars that you feature on YouTube.
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And like I said, I've been watching you drive around.
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out in some really cool looking nine 11's lately.
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So what else is on the docket that you guys are interested in and
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are willing to sell and work with people on all kinds of things.
49:08
We have sold so many random different cars.
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So currently in the showroom, just this week, we got into Panteras.
49:17
We have a couple of C1 Corvettes, a 59 and a 62.
49:22
We have a Ford model.
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I was sort of going back to what you're doing.
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With social media.
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And that's why I bring up these YouTube videos and some of the other cars.
49:30
So tell our audience, maybe they're figuring this out for the first time,
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or maybe they're already followers.
49:35
Take us on the journey of what you're doing and what you're posting out on
49:38
social media and what you're trying to showcase with respect to the Prince and
49:41
skunk across the different platforms, basically for the YouTube channel.
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That is all the car reviews I do on mostly cars I have for sale.
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Sometimes like the 288 GTO that I just posted, it was car I had
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just sold and it was local to me.
49:59
So the buyer let me do a video before we shipped it off to them.
50:03
So that was great.
50:04
Sometimes I've done videos on like when me and my dad go racing and stuff like that.
50:10
But 95 percent of the YouTube channel is car reviews.
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I don't like being sales pitchy with the videos.
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I don't want it to seem like an advertisement.
50:21
Part of my thing is I love older cars.
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I have so many friends in the car world who all love the latest, greatest hyper
50:30
car Pagani or whatever, and they're cool.
50:34
They're nice cars.
50:35
But I like the old one.
50:36
I like classic cars that have a soul and a personality.
50:41
They tell a story and just have a real history to them.
50:44
And I just don't feel like enough of this generation appreciates the older cars.
50:49
Cause at some point, yeah, sure.
50:51
People are, you know, makers are coming out with thousand horsepower, 1500
50:54
horsepower, all kinds of crazy stuff.
50:57
What are you going to do with it?
50:58
It's unusable at a certain point.
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I think that the history behind the cars.
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Where all these supercars started, you know, 50 years ago, that is
51:08
so much more interesting to me and so much more fun to drive.
51:12
And so I try and kind of give the history on these cars and some fun
51:18
facts and you know, just all the details that might get younger people
51:24
more into some of the older cars.
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So that's what I like to do on the YouTube.
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And what I especially appreciate about what you're doing with them is.
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They're not just model cars in the showroom.
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Like you see that all the time.
51:35
Like everybody's got this video review that they're trying to do.
51:38
You take them out and you drive them.
51:40
Maybe not all of them, but a majority of them are taken out
51:42
and they're driven on the roads.
51:43
Cars are meant to be driven.
51:45
They're meant to be appreciated and enjoyed.
51:47
So I really respect that.
51:48
I really like that.
51:49
And I hope that the audience does too.
51:51
And that's one of the fun things I look forward to every time
51:53
you put something out is where's she driving this thing next?
51:56
Where are we going?
51:57
Like what adventure are we up to?
51:59
So that's a lot of fun.
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And I really like that.
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You know, you guys just celebrated your 50th anniversary in 2022.
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So that begs the question, what does the next five, 10, and maybe the
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next 50 years look like for you guys?
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What are some exciting projects, some changes, some things that are coming up?
52:16
As we talked about earlier, my dad used to have a big restoration shop and he
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shut that down a long time ago before I.
52:23
Join the business, but we are actually currently looking into
52:28
adding a little service center here.
52:30
Kind of like how my dad did at first, start small, work our way up, decide
52:34
how many people and all that as we go, you know, start with one and get bigger.
52:39
Eventually we'll see where that takes us.
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I don't like putting too many plans set in place.
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I'd rather just start, see how that goes and then maybe add on as.
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As time goes, but my dad and I are also getting more serious into racing.
52:57
We've always done it together for fun.
52:59
So he did some of the West Coast Trans Am last year.
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We both want to do it this year, more heavy into racing
53:06
and the little service center.
53:08
So those are two big projects we have coming up.
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Well, if you're running in Trans Am, Camaro or Mustang?
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Well, actually, um, Ferrari.
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Really?
53:18
In Trans Am?
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I know, I know.
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He ran his, uh, Lamborghini Gallardo last year in it.
53:23
They have a XGT class, Gallardo GT3.
53:27
And then I'm working on getting the 458 Challenge Evo and we can run together.
53:34
It'll be a blast.
53:34
And we definitely get some money.
53:36
You know, from all the, the other guys in Trans Am, they're kind of
53:40
like, what are these guys doing here?
53:42
But did you miss the world challenge paddock?
53:44
Like, what are you guys doing here?
53:45
Right?
53:45
Yeah.
53:46
Trans Am East.
53:47
It's like a or B, you know, pick which one you want, but good for you guys.
53:50
That's awesome.
53:51
Definitely be rooting for you.
53:53
So, with that, Colleen, any shout outs, promotions or anything
53:56
else you'd like to share that we didn't cover this far 1 thing.
53:59
So, uh, my.
54:01
Personal Instagram is all about cars too.
54:04
So it's Colleen and then Comp Daytona.
54:06
So Colleen365GTB4C, just like the Comp Daytona.
54:10
And it's like 95 percent car stuff.
54:13
So my husband runs the Ferrari's online page, but since I run my personal
54:18
one, I do stories all day, every day, just kind of around here and cars
54:23
we get in and that kind of stuff.
54:25
So it's more behind the scenes of like what we're doing around here in case
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anyone's interested in that kind of stuff, the real promotions, I'm just
54:33
happy that I get to share my knowledge on these cars and all the fun things
54:38
that I have learned over the years, or even just learn as I go, there's.
54:44
So many fun, unique things about these cars and being able to share that
54:48
with people and find other people who are just as passionate is one
54:52
of my favorite things, especially about the social media aspect.
54:55
There's so many people who love seeing this kind of stuff and it just makes
55:00
me happy to be able to share it.
55:02
And then they share my passion and I've made lots of good friends.
55:06
Thank you to all those people who have become my friends over
55:09
the years and share my passion.
55:11
And I look forward to meeting lots more gear heads.
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And I love this, this automotive world and the amazing people you get to meet.
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Today, the prancing skunk known to many of us as Ferraris Online has a 4, 000 square
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foot warehouse filled with the highest caliber vintage automobiles consisting
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of racing memorabilia and an extensive amount of rare and unique Ferraris.
55:33
The front office pays homage to Michael's racing days with photos and
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memorabilia of decades of his racing past.
55:39
While they love to collect, they also broker sales and are not
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only Ferrari historians, but expert appraisers of Ferraris.
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Keeping on trend with exotic car values regarding Ferrari, general vintage
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market values, market trends, and all aspects of repair and restoration.
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You can learn more about Ferrari's online by checking them out@www.ferrari with an
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s-online.com, or follow them on social.
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at Ferraris online LLC on Facebook and LinkedIn or at Ferraris online
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on Instagram, Twitter, and YouTube.
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And with that, Colleen, I can't thank you enough for coming on Brake Fix, sharing
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your story and your passion for Ferraris.
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And I again have to congratulate you guys for hitting that 50 year milestone.
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And here's to another 50 years as a staple in the Ferrari and exotic car community.
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So thank you all for what you're doing and keep up the good work.
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Thank you so much.
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This has been awesome.
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I really appreciate it.
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Fantastic.
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Thank you much.
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