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Normally Podcast: Iran Deal Drama, Knicks Championship, UFC at the White House & Elon Musk’s Trillion-Dollar Milestone · Normally

• 0:06
  Speaker 1: Hey guys, we are back on normally the show with normal,
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  Speaker 1: which it takes full when the news it's weird.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Mary Cathainham and I'm Carol Marco. It's so nice
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  Speaker 2: to have you back, Mary, Catherine.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you to everybody for holding it down
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  Speaker 1: while I was gone. I got some son, had a
• 0:21
  Speaker 1: good time. I mean, it doesn't look like I got son.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously, it looked like you got some son.
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  Speaker 1: You look quite rosy. Thank you, Thank you. Rosie is
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  Speaker 1: probably the word had a great time. Had too many
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  Speaker 1: children at the lake, but that is fine because children
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  Speaker 1: are a delight. It's just tiny, they really are. When
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  Speaker 1: it's a water hazard situation, it's just like one of
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  Speaker 1: those things in life where you got to like be
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  Speaker 1: on be on alert at old times. And so we
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  Speaker 1: were a.
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  Speaker 2: Step above monitoring the situation.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. Yes, my mom had a situation full time,
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  Speaker 1: but when you're there, it's more serious.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Gates Garcia and Steven Miller did a great job.
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  Speaker 2: But I told them, told them both that they weren't
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  Speaker 2: really filling your shoes or anything, so whatever, But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they're both great, both really smart, both very funny. If
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  Speaker 2: you're not following them you should be. It's Gates Garcia
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  Speaker 2: on X and Stephen Miller not the one at the
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  Speaker 2: White House. It's Stephen L.
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  Speaker 1: Miller.
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  Speaker 2: He is red Steez on Twitter.
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  Speaker 1: So many thanks to them.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot going on. I know, sometimes we
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  Speaker 2: aren't sure what to talk about, and then other times
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  Speaker 2: it's like just fills up all on its own. So
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  Speaker 2: the big news today is obviously the Iranian potential deal
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  Speaker 2: that was signed last night.
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  Speaker 1: I say, every time we're talking about it should just
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  Speaker 1: be Iranian deal.
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  Speaker 2: Question mark right, Maybe could be you know, I keep
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  Speaker 2: clicking on these like, yeah, I get all these emails
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  Speaker 2: like New York Times the morning, a deal in Iran.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, what is it. They're like, oh, we
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  Speaker 2: don't have it. We We're just we're gonna tell you.
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  Speaker 2: Like it's like what how My husband is like when
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  Speaker 2: I'm on Twitter during a big sport to vend and
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  Speaker 2: He's like, what's the score, And I'm like, I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: I can just tell you what people are feeling about it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm really more of a color commentator, that's right.
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  Speaker 2: So we have a lot of color commentary about the
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  Speaker 2: deal with Iran, but not a lot of details or specifics,
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  Speaker 2: and a lot of like a person close to the
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  Speaker 2: deal tells us, right, you know, so on. So I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, and I'm being cautiously optimistic, which is not
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  Speaker 2: the vibe online at all. People are pretty despondent about it,
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  Speaker 2: people who I normally agree with. So I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I really I'm not sure what to think here. I
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  Speaker 2: want to see the details before I get sad about it. Right.
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  Speaker 1: Here's the New York Times reporting today on this. President
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  Speaker 1: Trump set in an interview on Sunday afternoon that the
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  Speaker 1: agreement he had reached with Iran would ultimately assure that
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  Speaker 1: straight up from news was permanently toll free, and asserted that,
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  Speaker 1: despite the objections of Prime Minister of Benjamin n Yahou
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  Speaker 1: of Israel, he had saved Israel from nuclear obliteration. Mister
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  Speaker 1: Trump also insisted that if iron failed to reach a
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  Speaker 1: final nuclear record with the United States that his aids
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  Speaker 1: say they expect will begin on Friday in Switzerland, he
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  Speaker 1: would restart military attacks on Tehran and make the United
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  Speaker 1: States the guardian of the Middle East and return for
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  Speaker 1: twenty percent of the region's revenues. Okay, so, again, we
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  Speaker 1: don't know the outlines of this. We have heard rumors
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  Speaker 1: and some reports that Vance, Jared, and Witcoff were in
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  Speaker 1: favor of the deal while heg Seth and Rubio.
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  Speaker 2: And so yeah, that's tough because heg Seth and Rubio.
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  Speaker 2: That's the side that I feel like I'm on. But again,
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  Speaker 2: we don't know that that's really the case, right, this
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  Speaker 2: is like rumored or secondhand information. I really want to
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  Speaker 2: know the details here, and I would love to hear
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  Speaker 2: from Rubio. Of course, he's not going to contradict the
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  Speaker 2: White House. Maybe we'll get this information after these people
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  Speaker 2: leave the White House, but I just don't know. I'll
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  Speaker 2: tell you Mark Doublewitz, who is the CEO at Foundation
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  Speaker 2: for Defending Democracies and no maga guy, not like bet
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  Speaker 2: all costs at all, he tweets, in twenty three years
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  Speaker 2: of working on Iran, I've never been more confident that
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  Speaker 2: we will see the end of the Islamic Republic. Ignore
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  Speaker 2: the spin, drown out the noise, make maximum support for
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  Speaker 2: the Iranian people a central pillar of America's Iran policy.
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  Speaker 2: I'm surprised that he's this optimistic. I'm definitely not anywhere
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  Speaker 2: near that, but it's encouraging to me to see him
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  Speaker 2: say that.
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  Speaker 1: But question is he saying that to push them to
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  Speaker 1: make the Iranian people the central pillar, because the Iranian
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  Speaker 1: people do not feel like the central pillar right now.
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  Speaker 1: It feels very much as you and I have been
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  Speaker 1: worried about it, And I would say I'm much more
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  Speaker 1: pessimistic about this because I feel like what I have
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  Speaker 1: felt throughout is that he got kind of fed up
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  Speaker 1: with this and was like, I don't want to be
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  Speaker 1: in this situation anymore, and I like to make deals,
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  Speaker 1: and so I'm going to get them to make a deal,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna say it's different substantially from JCPOA even
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  Speaker 1: if it's not, and then we'll just and he wanted
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  Speaker 1: to have it done on his birthday, and you know
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  Speaker 1: he's very sensitive to those types of things. And I
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  Speaker 1: don't feel great about where it sounds like this is
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  Speaker 1: heading now. The thing about the Iranians is that they
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  Speaker 1: like to steal defeat from the jaws of victory, right
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  Speaker 1: so they could have a pretty good deal made I
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  Speaker 1: think wrongly by the US and have had opportunities for that,
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  Speaker 1: and they keep saying no. And I hope they continue
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  Speaker 1: to say no even if this is sign. What I'm
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  Speaker 1: concerned about is that we've already gotten this wrong by
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  Speaker 1: saying that there's a ceasefire in place, because only we
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  Speaker 1: are ceasing fire. They never observed it. The streets did
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  Speaker 1: not open upon the ceasefire, which was supposed to be
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  Speaker 1: the deal. And I am deeply worried about Donald Trump,
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  Speaker 1: who I hoped and thought that his concern would be
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  Speaker 1: his threat credibility in America's threat credibility backing off of this,
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  Speaker 1: and that disappearing disappearing because it doesn't look great at
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  Speaker 1: the moment, right.
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  Speaker 2: So trumptives are things like he loses interest very quickly,
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  Speaker 2: and I think that that has been an ongoing issue
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  Speaker 2: where he just is like, I'm done with this, Let's
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  Speaker 2: get the hell out of here. But the other part
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  Speaker 2: of it is that Trump doesn't like making a bad
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  Speaker 2: deal for himself for the country. And so that's where
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  Speaker 2: I had my faith that the things that we're hearing,
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  Speaker 2: and again, who knows what is really happening, whether it's
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  Speaker 2: true or not. However, we do have a clip of Vans.
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  Speaker 2: It sounds pretty terrible. Let's play it.
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  Speaker 1: RANI answer saying that they're going to have access to
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  Speaker 1: a three hundred billion dollar reconstruction fuck true or false?
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  Speaker 3: Well, that's the sort of thing they could have access
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  Speaker 3: to funded by the Gulf Coast Coalition, so long as
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  Speaker 3: they honor their into the obligation. I think that one
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  Speaker 3: of the things you're going to see it and people
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  Speaker 3: have to be skeptical of this, is that the hardliners
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  Speaker 3: in the Iranian system will overemphasize the benefits that Iran
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  Speaker 3: gets while underemphasizing all things that they have to concede
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  Speaker 3: and all the things they have to provide in order
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  Speaker 3: to get these benefits. So we absolutely are open to
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  Speaker 3: the Gulf Coast countries investing in the reconstruction of Iran,
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  Speaker 3: but only if Iran ends their nuclear program, ends there
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  Speaker 3: enriched stock pile of material, and it's really open to
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  Speaker 3: an inspections and enforcement regime that gives the American people
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  Speaker 3: confidence they're never going to have a nuclear weapon. So
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  Speaker 3: I think I think the dance you're going to see
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  Speaker 3: ed which is going to be interesting, is the Iranian media,
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  Speaker 3: especially the hardline media. They're going to talk a lot
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  Speaker 3: about what they get without talking about what they give.
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  Speaker 3: It's important for all of us to correct that record.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't do any of those things.
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  Speaker 2: Right, I just don't TRUSTe, right, right, But I do
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  Speaker 2: like that he's saying this is like what could happen
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  Speaker 2: if they do all of these things. If they don't
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  Speaker 2: do all of those things, they don't collect the pile
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  Speaker 2: of cash. But you know, I again, we have to
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  Speaker 2: kind of be looking at this in terms of layers
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  Speaker 2: of what the saying and what actually ends up happening.
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  Speaker 2: And this goes for our ally Israel as well. What
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  Speaker 2: Israel says and what actually happens might not be the
• 8:08
  Speaker 2: same thing. There's also the additional layer that there's a
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  Speaker 2: political fight in Israel. They're coming up on possible elections.
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  Speaker 2: There's an anti net Yaho block who desperately wants this
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  Speaker 2: deal to sound like Trump has been in net Yaho.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of like the secondhand information that we hear
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  Speaker 2: will be like Trump's done with net and Yahoo, and
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  Speaker 2: a lot of that could be coming from the Israeli
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  Speaker 2: left because they want it and Yahoo to lose in
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  Speaker 2: the next election. So there's a lot of facets here
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  Speaker 2: that are not as obvious.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just think like he set certain parameters Trump
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  Speaker 1: himself did, yep, that I don't see being met here right,
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  Speaker 1: like the dust gone and what have you. Like, those
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  Speaker 1: things don't seem like they're part of this discussion. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: they are, maybe they will be. I don't understand why
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  Speaker 1: this regime of psych is getting reparations without a conditional
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  Speaker 1: surrender totally, and I don't believe they'll give us access
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  Speaker 1: to anything or inspections. The missile program should be part
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  Speaker 1: of the discussions, and Israeli right to self defense should
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  Speaker 1: not be any part of the discussion because they're allowed
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  Speaker 1: to take on proxies wherever those proxies come at them,
• 9:19
  Speaker 1: and they should be as a sovereign country.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm sure they will. There's no part of me
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  Speaker 2: that thinks that either Lago government or any other Israel
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  Speaker 2: government is going to be like taking at tax from
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  Speaker 2: Lebanon and not responding because America signed this deal. It
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  Speaker 2: just makes no sense.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, these people are not to be trusted. But I
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  Speaker 1: agree with you that Israel won't listen to that admonition.
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  Speaker 1: But the fact that the American government would have such
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  Speaker 1: an admonition while talking to the Iranians as part of
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  Speaker 1: the discussion very bad.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Well we'll see what happens. We'll you know,
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  Speaker 2: see how this plays out. Of course, every day is
• 10:00
  Speaker 2: new adventure with Iran and with this administration. So I
• 10:05
  Speaker 2: would love to get I would so like more than
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  Speaker 2: anything else, love to hear what Pete meg Seth and
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  Speaker 2: Marco Rubio are thinking right now. But I think it's
• 10:13
  Speaker 2: going to be a long time before we can I.
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  Speaker 1: Find out one more time. I just don't want to
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  Speaker 1: gloss over it too much because there's a lot happening
• 10:20
  Speaker 1: in the world. They shot down on a page helicopter,
• 10:23
  Speaker 1: yeah they did, and luckily we rescued two people from that.
• 10:27
  Speaker 1: But these are that's who we're going to sit down
• 10:31
  Speaker 1: with and be like, let's hang out in Switzerland and
• 10:33
  Speaker 1: see what kind of deals we can come to the show.
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  Speaker 2: Which is why I just don't think am I being crazy?
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  Speaker 2: Or is that just doesn't sound like Donald Trump, Like,
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  Speaker 2: does not sound like the kind of thing that he
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  Speaker 2: would accept.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he likes to make a deal and
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: he likes to just be in the process of making
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  Speaker 1: a deal, So both things could be happening.
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  Speaker 2: Right all right, We'll see and we'll see how this
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  Speaker 2: plays out, and we'll hope for the best here and
• 11:02
  Speaker 2: we're going to take a short break and come right
• 11:04
  Speaker 2: back with Sports on Sports on Sports and segment two
• 11:08
  Speaker 2: of Normally. We are back on Normally, where it's been
• 11:14
  Speaker 2: a very sporty week or so. So let me just
• 11:18
  Speaker 2: sum it up and then we'll talk about it. World
• 11:20
  Speaker 2: Cup soccer and Europeans discovering that America is awesome, the
• 11:24
  Speaker 2: next first NBA ring in fifty three years. Nobody is
• 11:27
  Speaker 2: happier than my husband. The UFC event on the White
• 11:31
  Speaker 2: House lawn over the weekend, and the Carolina Hurricanes won
• 11:35
  Speaker 2: the Stanley Cup and I didn't even hear about that
• 11:37
  Speaker 2: until you added it to this list. Sports a lot,
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  Speaker 2: Let's talk about.
• 11:40
  Speaker 1: It a lot going on. The World Cup thing is
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: so fun, by the way, before we get to the
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: US's win, which is very amazing. Yeah, the Europeans coming
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: to America and giving us on X the two to
• 11:53
  Speaker 1: fifty celebration we deserve, yeahs so fun. I love that
• 11:57
  Speaker 1: they're being treated so nicely. I think that is part
• 11:59
  Speaker 1: of the America character to be enthusiastic and welcoming and
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: ready to jump in on something like that. And frankly,
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  Speaker 1: our kindness in that area is what led us to
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  Speaker 1: the Biden policy of like, let's just have everyone arrive
• 12:12
  Speaker 1: all the time.
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  Speaker 2: Right right, right this point.
• 12:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that kindness was taken advantage of, and Freddy from
• 12:20
  Speaker 1: Germany is seeing that kindness as he runs around the
• 12:23
  Speaker 1: country and explores this country in an organic way for
• 12:27
  Speaker 1: someone who is here as a visitor, who we are
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: very welcoming to, it's really pretty.
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  Speaker 2: Is just one just why he's the biggest one of
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  Speaker 2: the bunch. But there are so many people. There's a
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: Swedish woman, there's a bunch of Scottish guys. There's a
• 12:41
  Speaker 2: lot of people online from Europe talking about all the
• 12:46
  Speaker 2: different wonders of America, Bucky's and cracker barrels and Wi
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: Fi on airplanes that apparently is better than you know,
• 12:53
  Speaker 2: what they have in their homes or you know, it's
• 12:56
  Speaker 2: all so cool to watch, you know, it's interesting. So
• 12:59
  Speaker 2: you were off while Steven Miller and I talked about
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  Speaker 2: the happy Europeans. But since then there's been like this
• 13:05
  Speaker 2: push online that this is all an op. I just
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: need someone to explain to me how random Europeans joyously
• 13:13
  Speaker 2: traveling around America could be an op. I mean, maybe
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  Speaker 2: I'm just too old to understand this, but like, who
• 13:17
  Speaker 2: would be paying for that and who came up with that?
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  Speaker 2: And maybe I just have a lot less faith that
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  Speaker 2: anybody could be this organized. But I think don't see
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  Speaker 2: how it could be an op and again maybe it's
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  Speaker 2: my own blinders.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say, like, Okay, once this
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: took off as a kind of shock, that you can
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  Speaker 1: do that, maybe people would adopt this style of content
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: and get paid out for it. Right. However, I think
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: what's cool about it, and something we don't always see
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: from the European tourist perspective, is these people are doing
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: road trips. I pity anyone who has never done a
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: road trip through America because it's amazing. And so they're
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: seeing a great variety of things. They seeing small town America,
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: they're seeing the South and the Midwest, and so I
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  Speaker 1: think that really speaks to people. The other thing that
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: I realized, I feel like I don't take a lot
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: of things about America for granted. I try to be
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: same very aware. I did take for granted how good
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: our stadiums are. The Europeans are ballown away by our
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: college and high school stadiums, and that was like, this
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: is a high school stadium. I mean, I covered I
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: shouldn't have taken this for granted because I covered a
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: high school football program that had a ten thousand seedter stadium, right,
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: so it was just short of a jumbo tron. Probably
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: should have had one, but I yeah, didn't realize how
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: great they were. And it makes sense to me now
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: that in other countries when they get ready for World
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: Cup er Olympics, they're like, we got to rebuild a
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: bunch of stuff, whereas we're like, you just throw them
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: at the college. It's like that Freddie ended up at Auburn,
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: and I was like, even though it's Auburn, it is
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  Speaker 1: really beautiful.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so cool. It makes me want to take
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: a road trip actually, like I have done American road
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  Speaker 2: tips of course, but not nearly enough and not nearly
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: far enough away. I just it makes me want to
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: go see more of the country via car. And Selena
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: Zito often talks about this. She all of the reporting
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: that she does. I think Dave Marcus does too. They
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: do it all in a car, and Selena Zito has
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: told me that she does only back roads, like no
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: highways or anything. That's cool. We really do have something
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: going here.
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: It is very cool. The US men's national team has
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: something going as well, with a four to one win
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: to open the World Cup against Paraguay. And I'm I
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: played soccer, but I'm not a huge soccer fan, so
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: I can't say that I have a bunch of background here.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: But many, many people are saying a near flawless, a
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: near flawless performance from the men's national team against a
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: very strong team that has beat the perennial strong teams
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: in the past. So great to see from them. I
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: think people are going to probably fall in love with
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: the personalities on this team. And you know, despite the
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: fact that we're not a soccer nation, there are generations
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: of children raised playing soccer. Like we all get it. Yeah,
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: and then we you know, when we get a little
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: dose of huliganing, we're probably in for it.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: I think if Americans heard the soccer chants or the songs,
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: I think they'd get into it. Like I mean, they
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: make they make up some elaborate songs over there.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: Yes, and they're adopting fan bases the the is it.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: The Algerian team that's in Kansas has been adopted. The
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: Scots are up in Boston, Boston adopted. Yeah, it's very nice,
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: So we'll keep watching that as well.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: Talk the Knicks first NBA ring in fifty three years.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: My husband is a long, long suffering Knicks fan. They
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: came close in the nineteen nineties. I've heard all about
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: it from him. I was actually a little bit I
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: I you know, I'm a Knicks fan in that I
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: don't like any other team, but I don't I don't
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: really like basketball that much. So in the nineties I
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: watched a little bit of the heartbreaking finals losses and
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: stuff like that. This was so fun to watch in
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: a Knick's household, Like they'd be down by twenty and
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: everybody'd be like, they're going to come back. They're going
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: to come back because they've done it. They've done it
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: in the previous couple of games. And I'm pretty superstitious.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: So I think that they lost Game three, not because
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: of Donald Trump, but because everybody kept saying Nixon four.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: You can't count your chickens before they hatched. You can't
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: do that, you know. Like I needed everybody to stop
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: making up poems about the Knicks winning and four, and
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: I really did blame them all. And when Nicks didn't
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: win Game three, it was so fun it was so fun.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: My husband and my son, my youngest son, went to
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: Game one in San Antonio. I forced them to go.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: My husband is very big on like, you know, whatever
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: I want to do, like my daughter and I just
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: went to see Noah Khan Orlando we've seen like Taylor
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: Swift and Liverpool, Like, sure, you go, do whatever, but
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: spending money on himself is something he doesn't do. So
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: I forced the issue, made them go, and I was
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: so happy. They had the best time ever. And I'll
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: tell you, San Antonio fans were so nice and kind
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: to them that it pissed me off so much when
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: San Antonio fans were getting abused and my exit, you know,
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: hometown of New York City, really really bugged me because
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: after they won Game one, people came up to my
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: husband and son and were just like, what amazing experience
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: you guys will have and he'll always remember this, and
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: they were just so so nice.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Nicks, let's go, Nix. I love. I love to
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: see a long suffering fan base when it's very fun.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Even vicariously, I enjoyed that Jalen Brunson of The of
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: the Nice I said I have noted after said I
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: have nothing against Texas. I love Texas. I missed the
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Texas taxes. That's a that's fan service for me. I
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: like that. No, he seems like such a great guy.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Great for those Villanova guys who played at Villanova and
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: one in twenty sixteen together to come to the next
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: and win together. I believe was it Brunson who took
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: a pay cut so that he could bring his buds
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: to play on this team together. I mean, that's a
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: great story. Who's who's upset at that?
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: Right? Yeah? Seriously, it's just very much enjoy it.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and also can I say also it's been interesting
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: to watch so that you know, they have all the
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: celebs on the on the side with the their Taylor
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Swift and Timothy is always there. I love that timoth
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: A Chellame has the silliest French name and looks looks
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: like a tuberculosis h literature guy from the eighteen hundreds
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: and all the girlies desperately want him to be like
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: an indie poet and he is such a Chad is
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: just a sports guy. Throw it through and it reminds.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Me born in the wrong body, you know, like, and some.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: People are really crashing out about it. Because they want
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: him to be this other thing. And it finds me
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: of the US hockey team, where it's like they all
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: had this idea of them as not normy dudes, but
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: as like gay hockey soap opera stars, and it's like, yeah,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: that's not what they are. And I'm enjoying Tim at
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Tay having a good time in all of this. Also,
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: I liked I'm Not Matt at Taylor Swift courtside with
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: her friends from Hame. I love the band Ham by
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: the way, I think we're great, and the silly pun
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: shirts I'm in favor of.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: I bought a silly pun shirt. There's a Jewish sect
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: called Kabad, which we love, and I bought one that
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: says Habad Nick.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: So oh that was cute.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: I'm going to be wearing that on a future Normally episode.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: I like it very much. I like it very much.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: Shall we move on to UFC?
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Yes, UFC, you're gonna have to carry this one. I
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: some of the pictures and some clips, but I didn't
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: watch it, so I have a lot of thought.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: I watched it. I'm a UFC fan, and I have
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: to say Normally it ends up on way too late
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: for me. To catch the best fights. And it did
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: go late this time as well.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Part Andoy was complaining about it being on.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Well when they do when they do it West Coast,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: it's even worse, but it's usually Saturday night. So this
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: time it's dubbed as an America two fifty celebration. They
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: set up the Octagon on the lawn with this huge
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: thing called the claw over it to light it and
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: give them seats.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: Incredible incredit looked insane, Like how did anybody hate that?
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: So that's the thing.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: I'm not a UFC fan, but like, wow, wow, No,
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: it looked crazy good.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: And this is I think something that is problematic for
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: those who object to it, because I understand some of
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: the objections. We'll get to those. I understand some objections.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: But when you have that picture of the Octagon and
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: the flyover and the White House is the backdrop, and
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: you have the full view of eighty thousand people on
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: the ellipse partying watching the feed from there, and I'm
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: glad I'm not in the position of having to go
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: like I don't like it. I don't like it, And
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: I feel that's where we were so often with Obama,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Like Obama would be doing some cool like yeah up
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: in Motown, like everybody come and do their performances, and
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: we'd be like, hey, I don't really like that. People
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: have other concerns right now, and it's like I don't like.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: Totally, but I will say I did not like the
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: Joe Biden trans shirtless. We'll see that I legitimately did
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: not like that.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: No, I don't think that's in the same category like
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Obama having cool artists perform at the White House is
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: something that nominally most people are like, oh, Stevie Wonder's
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: at the White House, Like I'm not upset about that.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: The tig ol Bitti's out on the South Lawn is
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: not the thing we're looking for. And I do think
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: many people who complain about the UFC who bypassed that
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: like really hard for you to say something now, do
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: like UFC is not for everybody. It is a giant, loud, brash, ridiculous,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: sometimes stupid, course occasionally vulgar display of many things that
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: make America America.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: I don't It's like, sure, yeah, I see that.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: And it's funny because you'll see these postgame post fight
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: interviews and they're often very funny funnier than you expect.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: They are often more sentimental than you would expect. One fighter,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: I think reproposed to his wife on the White House lawn. Uh,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: and you know did John three sixteen?
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: They do?
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: You know, they do all these sort of They're very
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: interesting characters. Now, the one real bad moment that I
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: think marred the whole thing one fighter Josh Hokitt, who
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: was like, I don't know the fourth from the last
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: fight heavyweight fighting Derek Lewis. He won, and I was
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: rooting for Derek Lewis to kick his bock because I
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: don't like him. He has an attitude, he's trying to
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: be like a very showy, almost ww heel character. He's
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: making trouble on purpose. I'm not sure why Dana White
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: thought he would be great for this because of this,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: So he takes the mic afterwards and says, Michelle Obama
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: is a man. Are you with me, America? Something like that?
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Am I right, America? And now people are of course
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: calling for the White House to denounce this, even Dave
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Portno has said so, and I think, yeah, it's probably
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: the best thing just to be like, yeah, that was bad.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: We don't like that. Dana White, what do you call?
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Dana White has denounced.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: It, has said that he says, I understand that the
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Obamas are public figures, but I'm completely against saying nasty
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: and false things about people's families. Everyone knows my position
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: on free speech, but I hate that kind of nonsense.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: This is how White and the UFC uprate because you
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: are overseeing a bunch of very unpredictable fighters, people.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: Who don't hit in the head a lot.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and he often lets them mouth off and then says,
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: I don't like this or I don't like that, And
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: it's on the very outsides that you get punished. And
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: he may well, but yeah, I really wish Derek Lewis
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: had beaten him, because Derek Lewis is vulgar, but not
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: that way, and he would have been a very funny
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: post fight interview. But he's forty one, so I don't know.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: He wasn't he didn't didn't have what it took anyway.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: At the end, in the last fight of the night,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: an American underdog, Justin Gagee takes on a Spanish undefeated
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: fighter in the lightweight category and beats the heck out
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: of him and has this to say at the end,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: and this is just one of the many moments that
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: we're pretty amazing.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Joe Rogan, you had been waiting.
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: For this moment your entire career and to win it
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: in such a spectacular fashion in a fight where you
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: were at some points six to one underdog. How good
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: does this feel?
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Hey, I'm from America. Do you want to fifty years?
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: You know all we were waiting to the six to one.
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: Dogs and look at this driving now. To all the current,
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: former and future military service members, thank you so much,
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: Thank you so much, all the first responders, the police officers, firefighters, EMPs.
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: You guys have no idea how greatli I am. And
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: for as long as I'm able to, I would use
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: my name to make money and support you guys. Love
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: this and foremost thank you and all glory to God.
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: I played so much for this opportunity to do something legendary,
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: and I know that was absolutely legendary because I cannot
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: even believe it.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Wow, all right, that's my guy. I know it's great
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: if I us the root for someone.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: It's also he also ate young. He's thirty seven years
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: old for a fighter. He's getting on up there. So
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: there were a lot of great moments. He mentions the
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: first responders. Every fighter came out of the White House.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: By the way, walking out from the White House wild
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: and actually kind of cool because you got to see
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: a lot of the inside of the White House as
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: they were walking out. Every walkout had an accompanying Medal
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: of Honor recipient, some of them one hundred years old
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: walking out with these fighters, or in the case of
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: the one hundred year old, coming out in a wheelchair
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: with them, so you'd get a little brief on who
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: those guys were and see them and their names. They
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: came out also with a nine to eleven first responder
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: most of them, so honoring those guys as well. And
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: then the marine band and vocalists did every single walkout
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: song and everything of the night live on the lawn.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: That cool.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: So everybody has a chosen walkout song. They were all
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: performed live on the lawn and the Marine band was
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: crazy good. So a lot of things going for it,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: and that one moment, I think the President likely you
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: can't have a two fifty event and have that be
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: the thing. Now you're taking a risk with the UFC
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: group of guys, right, and that risk you know he
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: wanted attention. He's going to get it. That's what happened there,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: and we'll see what the White House and others have
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: to say about it. Look, I really would encourage you,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: even if you don't like UFC, to watch some highlights
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: from this because it is a very interesting type of
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: and and I introduced my parents to it last night
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: and explained a couple of things to them, and they
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: enjoyed it. I do hate that it wasn't simulcast on CBS.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: That it was Paramount plus so you had to have
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: like access to it. A lot of tax dollars did
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: go to security, so that should have been something that
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: was available to people. And I think it would have
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: been very cool and a lot of people would have watched.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: But while all this was happening, the Democrats counter programmed.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: And I just want you to I just remind you
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: that these are the people who have all the major
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: talent on their side.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: Every celebrity, they don't have to book Billie Vanilli, They
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: could go anywhere they want. Who did they book?
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: What did they get? Let's watch a little clip.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Oh you Fascius bo, you're ballu you Fetcius budlu.
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: Hey Lara, you are fascist. Let me put you straight.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: When you come for the rest of us, we'll fight
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: you at the gate and you will you pass Batlu.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: That's a Bette Midler and that was one of the
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: better acts. As our friend Bridget Fetesie said, Oh wow,
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: pretty impressive to get Julia Robertson Robert de Niro to
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: do a community theater production.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: That is actually the flex here right again, like.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: We operate in a vibe society. I'm sorry, like I'm
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: gonna go a little bit. I enjoy the UFC, so
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: I put aside some of any of my concerns last
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: night and was like, I'm gonna idiocracy this thing up
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: and enjoy the show. The vibes, Like the difference is
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: wild and they can't seem to enjoy themselves and give
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: us a good show, which would be the right way
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: to counterprogram this, but they are incapable of doing that
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: at this point, which is odd to me. I also
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: would say Keith Edwards, who it's a left leaning commentator,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: had this to say. He just tweeted Trump and Dana
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: White coming out of the White House to begin this
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: thing and said this is so oh white trash. I'm sorry,
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: and I would just say, and of course I say
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: this affectionately as a UFC fan, this is a problem
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: for Democrats. It's not it's not white trash. It is
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: a rainbow of trash. If you think the UFC is trash,
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: it is a trash heap that looks like America right
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: and has this huge working class male demographic of all
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: colors that they can't seem to attract, and labeling it
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: white trash is exactly how you continue not to reach
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: those people.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, and again, you don't have to like it, like
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: I am not a UFC person, but like to call
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: people who like it trash, like you don't get that
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: this is what America is loving and you just don't
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: represent the people.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's funny that somebody said that this is like, oh,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: this terrible emulsion of fighting and selling things and being
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: very loud and patriotic, And yes, that sounds accurate to me.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: I think I think a lot of these patriotic events
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: are going to suffer a tiny bit from Trump not
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: knowing where lines are right and not knowing that this
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: isn't all about him. Sometimes he has he has the
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: thing where he's like America is me. My interests are America,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: and so it'll all work out. But gosh am I
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: glad we're doing America to fifty with him instead of.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there means there are a lot ganio right,
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: Robert de Niro saying that loving this country is like
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: an abused, abused spouse loving her abuser. Like, no, there
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: was not, You're not right here.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: There was a crazy poll of Republicans versus Democrats and
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: their patriotism levels, and Republicans it was ninety percent extremely
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: proud to be American, and Democrats it was in me twenties,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: I think. And the thing is, if you switched it
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: and it was a different administration right now, Democrats would
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: we would Pelicans would still be a ninety. That's the difference.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: And so for all the claims of us being partisan
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: about our patriotism, you guys kind of mean patriotism partisan.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: You shouldn't have done that, Yeah, shouldn't have done that.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah. All right, one more sports story before we take
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: a break and tell you about the new trillionaire.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: That is the Carolina Hurricanes winning the Stanley Cup last night.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: It was the Vegas Knights versus the Carolina Hurricanes, and
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: I am from Carolina, but I kind of moved away
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: just as the franchise became a thing, so I cannot
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: claim being a true fan, although I have watched them
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: in person, have and enjoyed it. They won the Stanley
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: Cup twenty years ago, and the coach, the current coach,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: was on that team as a player, so that's very funny.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: He did a reenactment of his lifting of the Stanley Cup,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: and that happened while the UFC fights were on. There's
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: just there was a lot going on this week.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: GDS, A lot of a lot of sporty sports for
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: the sports fans.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: All right, ask ye to our favorite fan, Shy.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: All right, we're going to take a short break and
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: be right back with more on Normally. We are back
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: on normally where Elon Musk becoming a trillionaire mostly on
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: paper has made people lose their collective minds. It's called
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: paper wealth because it's really just the company value times
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: his ownership stake makes his estimated net worth, and SpaceX
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: went public last week. That valuation then pushed Musk's paper
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: net worth past the trillion dollars, and liberals are just
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: not taking it all that well. It's funny because I
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: really do want to hear Bernie Sanders add trillionaires, the
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: millionaires and the billionaires and the trillionaires. Yeah, so yeah,
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: I mentioned I went to see Noah kon last week
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: in Orlando, and I was so happy because that show
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: was so apolitical. The opener and the main event was
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: just no politics at all. And then for his third
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: Orlando show, he said, f you Elon Musk on stage.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: I'm like, you don't have to do this, you just
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: you just don't have to participate in this at all.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: It seemed kind of like almost like he felt he
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: had to say something, and it's it's pretty pathetic. Over
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: on Blue Sky, they are dreaming about killing Elon Musk. Yeah,
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: that's a they went over there because X is to
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: just toxic, very toxic. Yeah yeah, so yeah, yeah.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: I think this is part of Liberals do not understand
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: that wealth can be created. Right, So if you have
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: a fixed pie view, your view is that his trillion
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: dollars came from taking trillions from other people. Now, the
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  Speaker 1: irony of that is the thing they love most, which
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  Speaker 1: is the federal government can only operate in a closed
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  Speaker 1: pie system. It is the closed pie right. They can't
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  Speaker 1: get any bigger. It can only take from us. Now,
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  Speaker 1: we can make the pie bigger. Someone like Elon Musk
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  Speaker 1: can make the pie bigger, from which the federal government
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  Speaker 1: can steal your money. But they can't create anything, so
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  Speaker 1: they're not familiar with wealth creation sometimes, and I don't
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  Speaker 1: think our country has done any economics instruction for like
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  Speaker 1: the past fifteen.
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  Speaker 2: That's the problem right there. That's really the giant issue here,
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  Speaker 2: and it's trickled down into everything. Mike Solana, who's like
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  Speaker 2: one of my favorite people to follow on x. He's
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  Speaker 2: at Pirate Wires and he's just real smart. But he
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  Speaker 2: tweets tech people trying to politely untangle the logic of
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  Speaker 2: democrats today, explaining how wealth is really held produced and
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  Speaker 2: all the good that the industry is doing is if
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  Speaker 2: people like Sanders or Mumdani or Kana care. They don't.
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  Speaker 2: They just want your shit. Please understand this already. And
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: then he follows us up with like quotes like but
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  Speaker 2: this would kill it innovation. They don't care. But this
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  Speaker 2: would wouldn't actually help the poor, bro, they don't care.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, this would take the whole economy, The whole
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  Speaker 2: country could become depressed, what are you not getting? Consuming?
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  Speaker 2: Consuming you is the Democratic Party's only goal, and that's.
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  Speaker 1: That's the goal.
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  Speaker 2: That's it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And they can't get their minds around and they
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  Speaker 1: don't care to cover for the most part, at least
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  Speaker 1: in the way that they would if I guess if
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  Speaker 1: it was a liberal trillionaire, they'd cover it. But the
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  Speaker 1: idea that welders at SpaceX who took a chance on
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  Speaker 1: these jobs and had ten thousands of dollars in stock
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  Speaker 1: and became millionaires overnight, that we can't embrace that. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: there's one wonderful guy who's been doing media saying, well, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: like I took this job just as a blue collar worker,
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  Speaker 1: and now I'm a millionaire, and I teach my children
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  Speaker 1: to invest in how their money can make money. And
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  Speaker 1: that is a beautiful story to me. And having Bernie
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  Speaker 1: Sanders take money, by the way, who's never created anything
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  Speaker 1: anything his own wealth mysteriously in four different houses, but
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  Speaker 1: that's right, Like he's never created anything, and he's going
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  Speaker 1: to take that money and give it to a welder somewhere,
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  Speaker 1: and so the welder just like earning it and being
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  Speaker 1: part of an amazing experiment with Elon Musk, who, by
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  Speaker 1: the way, whether you like him or not, has very
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  Speaker 1: demonstrably created insanely innovative things help a bunch people.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, really revolutionized space travel, revolutionized electric cars like Okay,
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  Speaker 2: he didn't invent electric cars, but he made the Tesla
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  Speaker 2: what it is, and it just it's been incredible to watch.
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  Speaker 2: Sean Trendy from Real Clear Politics also had a really
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  Speaker 2: good tweet. He said, just think how many lives we
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  Speaker 2: could change if we took all of Elon's wealth and
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  Speaker 2: gave each American three hundred and three dollars in SpaceX
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  Speaker 2: and Tesla stock, which would quickly be worth zero dollars
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  Speaker 2: since the vast majority of us, myself included, know nothing
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  Speaker 2: about running a space company or car company. Yes, three
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  Speaker 2: hundred and three dollars would go down real fast.
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  Speaker 1: I saw someone tweet and I wish I could credit
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  Speaker 1: it that, you know, I think the problem is some
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  Speaker 1: people don't really understand the scale of being a Yeah. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the federal government could build at least half a high
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  Speaker 1: speed rail system and a couple of learning centers with
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  Speaker 1: some money, right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. It was David Zagano that was the name, and
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  Speaker 2: he said, the sheer scale of a trillion dollars could
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  Speaker 2: be hard to comprehend. Let me put it in perspective.
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  Speaker 2: You would be able to buy forty two miles of
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  Speaker 2: high speed rail in California with that much money. No good,
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  Speaker 2: Enjoy your trillion, Enjoy your trillion, Elon Musk. He also
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: famously said Elon that money doesn't buy happiness, and he's
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  Speaker 2: you know, sounded kind of sad when he said it
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  Speaker 2: because he seems not like the happiest guy in the world. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's true. Money can't buy happiness, So stop trying to
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  Speaker 2: take away people's money in search of that happiness.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, get yourself a Knicks championship instead, get a Jabad Nick.
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  Speaker 2: Shirt and that's it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go.
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