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Football at Four: Should the Eagles be the Favorite Again in NFC East? · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: We were just having a little Birds conversation. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: the trade for Andy Dalton has become official. He is
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  Speaker 1: now a Philadelphia Eagle. Adam Kaplan, haven't talked to you
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  Speaker 1: in a while, man, how you been Hold on one second?
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  Speaker 3: Hello?
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  Speaker 2: There you go, There you go. Josh is having a
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  Speaker 2: phenomenal day today. By the way, he's walking out the building.
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  Speaker 2: He's uh, yeah, all right, how are.
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  Speaker 3: You be good? So with Andy Dalton, you should know this, Mike.
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  Speaker 3: He was very close to being Eagles number two quarterback
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  Speaker 3: three years ago. So Howie Rosemonds always liked him. He
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  Speaker 3: just for family considerations, as I understood it, Then he
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  Speaker 3: chose the Panthers over the Eagles. How he got his
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  Speaker 3: guy and he'll be the number three quarterback. So that's now.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously it gives some flexibility if they wind up trading McKee,
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  Speaker 3: then he becomes the number two.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say, does that Does that give
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  Speaker 1: you There was a report from Rich Samini that the
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  Speaker 1: Phillies had asked for a two for McKey. Do you
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  Speaker 1: think because it's a weak quarterback draft, that there's a
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  Speaker 1: chance that people start.
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  Speaker 2: Calling for him?
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely? Now, now I would. I would caution Mike it
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  Speaker 3: Rich is an old friend of mine. I didn't see riches.
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  Speaker 3: I know it's out there. I would be stunned if
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  Speaker 3: the Eagles trade gave away McKey for the last pick
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  Speaker 3: of you know, it's one thing if you're getting they're
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  Speaker 3: getting a top second round pick. I don't see them
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  Speaker 3: get trading away McKee for a late second round pick.
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  Speaker 3: I could change my mind based on what I would hear,
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  Speaker 3: just knowing how they liked that player. I just I'd
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  Speaker 3: be surprised.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Let's dive into some fun stuff this offseason, because
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  Speaker 1: the kind of free agency is over all over the
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  Speaker 1: Eagles that were busy last week while I was away.
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  Speaker 1: They decided to get a little busy again last week.
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  Speaker 1: So where do the sportsbook see the Eagles right now
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  Speaker 1: after kind of the first three weeks of free agency.
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  Speaker 1: Here Eagles win total for the twenty twenty six season
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  Speaker 1: pre draft, they are currently ten and a half. That's
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  Speaker 1: still a pretty nice number there.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Mike, here's the thing though. The over, now, this
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  Speaker 3: is telling me something and I'll explain in the second.
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  Speaker 3: The over that means eleven wins or more is plus
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  Speaker 3: one o five. So the money now is on the
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  Speaker 3: ounder minus one twenty five. So it's simple. AJ Brown.
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  Speaker 3: If you could tell me AJ Brown's going to be
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  Speaker 3: the team this fall, I'm taking over. That's how much
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  Speaker 3: AJ Brown means to this offense. If he's gone, there's
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  Speaker 3: nobody in free agency could replace them. Now, they can
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  Speaker 3: make a trade to replace them, or they could have
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  Speaker 3: to replace him, but that guy would be a rookie.
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  Speaker 3: Mic So I would have to say it's reasonable to
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  Speaker 3: think the under right now?
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  Speaker 2: Wow?
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  Speaker 1: All right, so ten and a half take the under,
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  Speaker 1: which is interesting. We were just having the conversation about
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  Speaker 1: the whole AJ Brown thing. Like I asked Jeff yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: The Eagles enter this season with thought that they are
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  Speaker 1: a legitimate Super Bowl contenders?
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  Speaker 2: Do they not?
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  Speaker 3: Yes?
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  Speaker 1: So if that's the case, how do you trade aj
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  Speaker 1: Brown away and not get anything to help this year's team?
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  Speaker 3: Well, again, if it happens on June second, Right, let's
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  Speaker 3: say they have an agreement, but they for cap purposes
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  Speaker 3: they want they won't be official to June second. How
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  Speaker 3: we will have this worked out. He'll know exactly what
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  Speaker 3: he's going to do to replace him, and he'll have
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  Speaker 3: he'll have a plan. And remember, Mike, as of now,
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  Speaker 3: they've got nine draft picks, they may have more. Doing
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  Speaker 3: the draft. We always have to understand that the draft
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  Speaker 3: is never about one year. It's about long term. It's
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  Speaker 3: about years two through five. You hope more than that.
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  Speaker 3: But how he would have a plan now, it's fair
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  Speaker 3: to question it. As I just brought up a couple
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  Speaker 3: of minutes ago, there's no one in free Deebo Samuel's
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  Speaker 3: is the best guy out there, but he doesn't even
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  Speaker 3: play he doesn't play the same way, he doesn't play
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  Speaker 3: the same position. He's just completely in a different way.
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  Speaker 3: He's played in a West Coast offents and he's an
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  Speaker 3: older player by the way. He's older than AJ Brown.
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  Speaker 3: It was not a big injury history, but Howie would
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  Speaker 3: have it. Howie would have somebody to do it. Now.
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  Speaker 3: On your point, though, you would think without knowing names,
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  Speaker 3: that would be taking somewhat of a step back there.
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  Speaker 3: But again, we haven't even gotten to the draft yet.
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  Speaker 3: And that's why I wanted to talk about this today
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  Speaker 3: because you're seeing the way sportsbooks look at this right now.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's look at the other teams now, Dallas
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  Speaker 1: who interesting offseason so far, kind of been a little
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  Speaker 1: quiet over there. They've lost some things in Dallas. But
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  Speaker 1: eight and a half is the number for the Cowboys
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  Speaker 1: like this one.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I'm not sure. I don't really know why, but
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  Speaker 3: the money is on the a lot of people there.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't get the I don't know, I didn't get
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  Speaker 3: the opening line for this. But the over eight and
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  Speaker 3: a half is minus one forty five. So the money now,
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  Speaker 3: people think it's going to go over. The books certainly
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  Speaker 3: do because it's minus one forty five. The owners plus
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  Speaker 3: one twenty. They totally choked last season. Okay, George Pickens
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  Speaker 3: is going to be back. I mean that's certainly a
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  Speaker 3: big thing. They've got offensive line problems. Okay, so they've
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  Speaker 3: they're changing their defense with Christian Parker. They're gonna run
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  Speaker 3: a thirty four. They've got problems on the secondary. I
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  Speaker 3: like the under. Take the under now it's plus one twenty.
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  Speaker 1: Ah, all right, there you go, wake the money on
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  Speaker 1: that one. Washington was everybody's darling last year, Adam. Now
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  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it looks like the same old Commanders.
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  Speaker 1: The sports books look at Washington as a seven and
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  Speaker 1: a half over under.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the over is minus one twenty, the owners plus
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  Speaker 3: one hundred. Mike, they had a massive amount of top
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  Speaker 3: three injury team last season. They've been fairly aggressive and
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  Speaker 3: free agency. They've resigned certain players. They had a lot
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  Speaker 3: of help on defense. I'll the over is the play.
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  Speaker 3: It's minus one twenty. I would actually agree with that.
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  Speaker 3: And then finally, Mike, in the division, the Giants are
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  Speaker 3: seven and a half. I've been wrong on the hardball
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  Speaker 3: Brothers for years. I like the over right now. The
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  Speaker 3: over seven and a half is plus one hundred. We
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  Speaker 3: don't even know what the schedule looks like other than
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  Speaker 3: who we know they're playing and the others minus one twenty.
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  Speaker 1: I like the over all, right, I likes the over
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  Speaker 1: on the Washington Commanders.
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  Speaker 2: All right, the Giants and the Giants to me on
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  Speaker 2: the Giants, Yes, the Giants. I was gonna say.
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  Speaker 1: The Giants seem to be a team that a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people are starting to buzz on because of the
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  Speaker 1: hardball thing here, and they've made some sneaky moves. So
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  Speaker 1: seven and a half on the Washington Commanders, seven and
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  Speaker 1: a half on the Giants, and you have plus one hundred.
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  Speaker 2: You're going over on the Giants.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I love the Giant. I do. I missed on
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  Speaker 3: his brother the eight and a half. I'll never forget it.
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  Speaker 3: With my time on sports Grid. I told h for us,
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  Speaker 3: there's no way. The roster isn't very good. And I've
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  Speaker 3: learned my lesson never underestimate the value of coaching and
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  Speaker 3: John Harble's trumess coach. I like the over, Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I like the plus one hundred there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, they're gonna be interesting. They're gonna be interesting.
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  Speaker 1: All right, So Eagles to make the playoffs. You got
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  Speaker 1: four teams there. The Eagles have ten and a half
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  Speaker 1: over under. Everybody else is under the nine and a half,
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  Speaker 1: which means it sounds like only one team in the
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  Speaker 1: division makes the playoffs. Eagles though, to make the playoffs, yes,
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  Speaker 1: minus two hundred, No, plus one sixty five.
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  Speaker 3: Like the Eagles, and the minus two hundred to make it.
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  Speaker 3: I know that's a big number to give up. I'm
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  Speaker 3: saying this without knowing for sure. A. J. Brown's could
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  Speaker 3: be traded. We don't know yet. And you made a
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  Speaker 3: fair point about the plan. We don't know what the
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  Speaker 3: plan would be to replace them. I just you know,
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  Speaker 3: I've been telling you for months now. There's not much
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  Speaker 3: out there. It would be no one to replace them.
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  Speaker 3: It's even gotten thinner. But the change and coordinator, which
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  Speaker 3: we didn't mention Sean, I mean Sean Manny, and I'm
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  Speaker 3: very bullish on We'll say. I'm saying this now in March,
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  Speaker 3: and he could be a disaster. But I don't see
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  Speaker 3: it that way. I don't see it. I just don't.
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  Speaker 3: I think he's going to do a much better job
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  Speaker 3: than his predecessor.
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  Speaker 1: I like these the Eagles to win the NFC East
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  Speaker 1: plus one oh five Dallas plus two thirty commanders plus
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  Speaker 1: five hundred. Would you dare take the Giants a plus
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  Speaker 1: seven hundred?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I would, which is crazy that it's a good
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  Speaker 3: bet right now. I honestly think the odds are going
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  Speaker 3: to get smaller for the Giants and they're going to
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  Speaker 3: be a hype machine team. Again. I'm saying this in March,
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  Speaker 3: late March, as it as it were. I really believe,
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  Speaker 3: Mike that you're gonna hit. You're just the John Harble
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  Speaker 3: hype machine is going to be there. I've this guy's
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  Speaker 3: a Super Bowl winning head coach. He's a really good coach.
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  Speaker 3: I know it didn't end well for him. It doesn't
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  Speaker 3: mean the guy can't coach. He's a good coach. And
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  Speaker 3: maybe they shock the world. That's one I look of
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  Speaker 3: all the numbers out there, the Eagles are plus one
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  Speaker 3: oh five. If you like the Eagles take them now.
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  Speaker 3: I kind of like the Giants and plus seven hundred
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  Speaker 3: to shot the world.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be the long shot there, all right,
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  Speaker 1: Eagles to win the NFC Conference. This one a little
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  Speaker 1: more interesting because they're at plus eight hundred now. They
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  Speaker 1: seemingly are falling back to the pack as opposed to
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  Speaker 1: leading the pack.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: The thing is, it's not just a J Brown, right,
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  Speaker 3: It's what the heck happened to their offensive line. We've
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  Speaker 3: talked about him many times, but we still don't know
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  Speaker 3: for sure. Was it just age injuries that's concerning Barkley's
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  Speaker 3: at n a year older, good hearts, rebound. Egles have
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  Speaker 3: a ton of questions, not so many on defense other
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  Speaker 3: than safety and corner. We know that they're great at
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  Speaker 3: d tackle. They're going to be good at linebacker. Mitchell's
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  Speaker 3: the stud, de Jeans the stud. We just don't know
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  Speaker 3: about who's going to play next to Makuba. Conreek Wollen
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  Speaker 3: is going to make twelve million this season. Can I
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  Speaker 3: revive his career? He certainly did end well with the Seahawks.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's look at the Eagles to win the
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  Speaker 1: Super Bowl? Where are they on that hierarchy.
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  Speaker 3: All of a sudden, Yeah, plus fifteen hundred. I'd make
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  Speaker 3: him a longer. I would make him a longer long shot.
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  Speaker 3: I just I don't see it. But again, we're in
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  Speaker 3: We're in late March, Mike. It's fun to do these now.
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  Speaker 3: I wanted to. It was my idea to do these,
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  Speaker 3: and I love talking about this. I need to get
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  Speaker 3: through the draft and obviously, well, one of the things
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  Speaker 3: we'll do after the draft is we're gonna look at
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  Speaker 3: their odds because we're talking about this now four weeks away.
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  Speaker 3: Let they're fifteen hundred, right, they're plus fifteen hundred. They
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  Speaker 3: maybe plus twelve fifteen. They may be plus a stout
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  Speaker 3: depends AJ Brown. What the draft looks like to me.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's go to some fun ones here. Who's
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  Speaker 1: on the MVP list and where are they?
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  Speaker 3: I love this one. Jalen Hurts plus thirty five hundred.
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  Speaker 3: Excuse me, the same odds as bow Nixt. Really I couldn't.
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  Speaker 3: But when I saw that, by the way, I was like,
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  Speaker 3: we have to talk about this bow Nick. Come on, man,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I look, well again, if AJ Brown's gone,
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  Speaker 3: it hurts us. Odds have to be worse. But that's
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  Speaker 3: a prime thirty five hundred, I get it. That's where
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  Speaker 3: that is, all right.
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  Speaker 2: Defensive Player of the Year. Who are the candidates?
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  Speaker 3: All right? So last one for the Eagles, Jalen Carter's
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  Speaker 3: plus twenty five hundred, the gene and Quinney on Mitchell
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  Speaker 3: plus sixty six hundred. I couldn't believe it. Zach Bond's
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  Speaker 3: numbers out there plus twelve thousand, five hundred, which is comical.
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  Speaker 3: All right, the of one, two, three four players, Zach
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  Speaker 3: Bond just is just unappreciated. He's not gonna win it
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  Speaker 3: because people don't know about him. The media outside this market,
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  Speaker 3: nobody follows. The media has no idea what Zach Bond is.
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  Speaker 3: We do Jalen Carter had both, you know, he had
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  Speaker 3: the shoulder issue. I would take Dejeene and plus sixty
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  Speaker 3: six hundred because of his ability to play multiple positions.
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  Speaker 1: See I like a Dejene and plus sixty six hundred
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  Speaker 1: are such good odds. But the real one Jalen Carter.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you've seen Aaron Donald win this award. I
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  Speaker 1: could see that position, you know, being a factor. And
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  Speaker 1: that's why I think Carter plus twenty five one hundred
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  Speaker 1: gives you good enough value to do it.
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  Speaker 3: He does, Mike, but the problem is the shoulders he
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  Speaker 3: dropped off last season. Could he be the same Cooper Degene?
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  Speaker 3: The good thing is the national media knows right and
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  Speaker 3: it's you know, it's a Associated Press award, I believe,
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  Speaker 3: so those guys know. Like those guys the Associated Press
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  Speaker 3: writers know who Cooper de Gene is. Okay, they know
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  Speaker 3: he's a stud. They don't know other than Rob Moddy,
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  Speaker 3: who's covered the Eagles for He's great because he covered
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  Speaker 3: he knows the Eagles, but most of these guys don't.
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  Speaker 3: They don't know exact bonuts we do, but most of
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  Speaker 3: the national media does not.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Adam Kaplan, there we go. It should be fun.
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  Speaker 1: We are in the draft. We're within a month now,
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  Speaker 1: so we'll start to take a look at the draft.
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  Speaker 1: Did any else thing else the Eagles might do? Hey,
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  Speaker 1: do they go out and get that edge rusher? Still
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  Speaker 1: it's something they still need to target.
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  Speaker 3: Right, they're on it. They're on a trust men, that one.
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  Speaker 3: They're on it.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe by Friday we shall see Adams back then. Thanks man,
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  Speaker 1: Adam Kaplan from the Inside the Birds Podcast