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Best of Chuck in the Morning 8-7 · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Well, great morning to you here live from the Virginia
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  Speaker 1: Mason Athletic Center. My name is Chuck Powell.
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  Speaker 2: Happy Friday to you all. We made it, everybody, we
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  Speaker 2: made it to the Friday and we are happy to
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  Speaker 2: have you with us.
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  Speaker 1: Ashley Ryan back of the studio, my name is Chuck Powell.
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  Speaker 1: We've got you for the next four hours here on
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  Speaker 1: the radio show, and all sorts of things planned for
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  Speaker 1: you to close out the week. We will detail that
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  Speaker 1: for you in a moment. As we just spend another day,
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  Speaker 1: another morning here in Renton, Washington, and get ready for
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  Speaker 1: another Seahawks practice. We have a preseason game, actually not
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  Speaker 1: officially a preseason game, but there was football on last night,
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  Speaker 1: which we'll talk about in our headlines here in a
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  Speaker 1: little bit. But yes, football season is here and yet
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  Speaker 1: to baseball season painfully continues, which we'll get to more
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  Speaker 1: in a moment. But last night, Ashley, I went to
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  Speaker 1: to lee le Brasort Casino.
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  Speaker 2: Lovely place.
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  Speaker 3: Does he drink alone?
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  Speaker 2: Nice?
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  Speaker 1: I did not drink alone?
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  Speaker 3: Oh thank goodness.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and I suppose that the George thorough
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  Speaker 1: Good concert I should have, but people showed up and
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  Speaker 1: made sure that I didn't, So I thank those individuals
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  Speaker 1: good and the collective, Yeah, and the collective. But I
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  Speaker 1: did not drink a lot, I'll say that. Well, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I stretched it out. I got two things off the
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  Speaker 1: thorough Good checklist. I did have a scotch and I
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  Speaker 1: did have a beer, but I did not have the bourbon.
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  Speaker 1: And I thought maybe that was a good choice to
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  Speaker 1: make considering what time we needed to be on the
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  Speaker 1: air today.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I think, And because I.
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  Speaker 2: Had to drive home from the concert last and then
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  Speaker 2: there's that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so we stopped.
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  Speaker 2: Two thirds of the way through the list.
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  Speaker 1: But I do know Brandon who came out and he
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  Speaker 1: actually bought me my scotch. He did the checklist. He
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  Speaker 1: was staying for the entirety of the show. Oh, I
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  Speaker 1: didn't stay for the entirety of the show.
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  Speaker 2: So he did the whole George thorough could experience last night.
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  Speaker 2: And it was fantastic, It really was. The amphitheater was terrific.
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  Speaker 1: And he's seventy seven years old, for goodness sake, rock legend.
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  Speaker 2: And yet he still got this like pizzazz.
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  Speaker 1: About him and he obviously can still play and he
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  Speaker 1: can still sing. Uh, And it was it was a
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  Speaker 1: fun night out at t Lalap and so we enjoyed
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  Speaker 1: it all. And I want to thank all the people
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  Speaker 1: that came out. I'm not gonna remember you all, but Ron,
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  Speaker 1: we had a great conversation with Ron Brian who stopped by,
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  Speaker 1: so glad that he's he was one of our ticket winners.
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  Speaker 1: Wes was another one of our ticket winners, and he
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  Speaker 1: stopped by with his wife and a huge Kracken fan,
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  Speaker 1: Wes who decided to take a dig at the Mariners
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  Speaker 1: as he was walking away from me last night.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, just Jeff.
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  Speaker 1: Jeff was there as the you know when I when
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  Speaker 1: I first got there. So thanks many others as well,
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  Speaker 1: but one thing, thank everybody for just coming out and
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  Speaker 1: say hi last night. And then the show was terrific
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  Speaker 1: and Tlala was terrific. And can't wait to go see
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  Speaker 1: another show out there and eat a another different restaurant
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  Speaker 1: out there and actually spend some time.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't have the time to play the tables or
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  Speaker 1: stay the night, which is something that I want to
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  Speaker 1: get done here very soon. But great, great, great evening
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  Speaker 1: at Talala Presort Casino last night.
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  Speaker 4: Well I am glad to hear that. Very glad how
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  Speaker 4: was Robert Cray? By the way, he was opening right.
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  Speaker 2: Amazing, like amazing. I mean I'm not exaggerating this.
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  Speaker 1: I did not. I mean I didn't really know Robert Cray.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't really know the history of him. And then
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  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I'm like, my goodness, this is
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  Speaker 1: an album purchase the next time I go to the store,
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  Speaker 1: to the record store.
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  Speaker 2: Fantastic.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he's seventy three years old, and he's like, man,
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  Speaker 1: if you're not in your prime, I kind of want
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  Speaker 1: to go back traveling time to hear you in your
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  Speaker 1: because you are fantastic. I mean, his singing voice and
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  Speaker 1: his guitar playing just remarkable, and then thorough good. I
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  Speaker 1: mean he's saying about alcohol his entire career. You know
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  Speaker 1: he's had some.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would hope. So, yeah, he's just lying to himself.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I doubt that he stopped at one Bourbon, one Scotch,
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  Speaker 1: and one beer. I would imagine he probably had two
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  Speaker 1: of each, probably at certain points of his life. But
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  Speaker 1: you know, still the showman. The only thing about it was, and.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get into the Mariners here in a second. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: I'm stalling.
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  Speaker 1: The only thing about it was when he comes out
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  Speaker 1: on the stage, I'm like, oh my gosh, he looks
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  Speaker 1: like gas Man. So the whole concert, I'm like, I
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  Speaker 1: kept thinking, like, oh my, Gaston's up there performing on
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  Speaker 1: the stage.
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  Speaker 3: Perfect. That's very random, an.
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  Speaker 1: Old old Mike Gas gas man. But yeah, he kind
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  Speaker 1: of has taken on like a like an older gas
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  Speaker 1: look about him. So I couldn't get Gas out of
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  Speaker 1: my thoughts last night while I'm watching the George thorough
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  Speaker 1: Good Show.
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  Speaker 3: That's pretty funny. That's so random.
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  Speaker 1: It would be great if this entire time my Gaston
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  Speaker 1: has been George Thurrow Good.
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  Speaker 2: That would have been awesome.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, he would have really tricked us all.
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  Speaker 2: Living a double life like a spy.
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  Speaker 3: But not quite an opposite double life as well.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you would think. Yeah, all right, well, good
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  Speaker 1: morning to you all. Welcome into the radio show. Here
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  Speaker 1: we are on this Friday. We do have a lot
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  Speaker 1: of ground to cover today. And certainly, I mean, oh, first,
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  Speaker 1: credit is your keyword at ninety three to three KJR
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  Speaker 1: dot com for one thousand dollars in cash. Certainly, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's hard not to be kind of depressed really about
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  Speaker 1: this Mariner's season when there were such high expects it's
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  Speaker 1: the fifty years celebration and maybe this is it, you know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe all the planets are coming together, and in year
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  Speaker 1: number fifty, this long extended weight to get into the
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  Speaker 1: World Series. You got the entire country talking about this
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  Speaker 1: team on paper looks like the best team in the
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  Speaker 1: American League. I told you that in spring training, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people bought into that one. The only one
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  Speaker 1: here in town that felt that way, wasn't it the
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  Speaker 1: only one on the show that felt that way. And
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  Speaker 1: yet it's obviously been disappointing. I mean, four months of disappointment,
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  Speaker 1: this team just cannot get into a groove. And then
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  Speaker 1: Saturday night, you think, for sure, excuse me not Saturday night,
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  Speaker 1: Wednesday night, you have one of those games where you
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  Speaker 1: feel like that's it. That's got to be it right,
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  Speaker 1: that's got to trigger things, that's got to set things right.
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  Speaker 1: Now they're I mean every team, even bad teams, have
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  Speaker 1: a hot streak at some point where they play above
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  Speaker 1: even above their caliber. I mean it's baseball. At some
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  Speaker 1: point during a season, a team goes on a run. Now,
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  Speaker 1: it might be different for say the Colorado Rockies than
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  Speaker 1: it is for the Los Angeles Dodgers, but even the
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  Speaker 1: Colorado Rockies have had a stretch this season where they
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  Speaker 1: played above their heads for a week or ten days
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  Speaker 1: and went on a bit of a run and got
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  Speaker 1: people's attention. We've not had that from this team, and
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  Speaker 1: maybe it's still coming, but they just cannot seize momentum.
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  Speaker 1: And just when you think they've played one of those
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  Speaker 1: games that we discussed yesterday, that galvanizing type effect that
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  Speaker 1: you could get from a game. You know, you had
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  Speaker 1: the dust up at the end, you had bad outfielders
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  Speaker 1: making good plays, you had a twenty one year old
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  Speaker 1: answering after the brawl with a home run. You had
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  Speaker 1: Julio coming up with one of the bigger hits of
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  Speaker 1: the year and it felt like he needed it. Just
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  Speaker 1: felt like one of those games that could be that
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  Speaker 1: turning point. And Ashley, if you don't go out the
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  Speaker 1: very next night or very next day, twelve hours later
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  Speaker 1: and you're down three to nothing within a blink and
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  Speaker 1: you never got in a baseball game, You never got
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  Speaker 1: into that game at any point. You were such not
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  Speaker 1: a threat to the Tigers yesterday that Franber Valdez didn't
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  Speaker 1: even have to throw at anybody.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that doesn't tell you you didn't even
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  Speaker 2: have time.
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  Speaker 1: I mean he was up three to nothing by the
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  Speaker 1: time he took the mound. I mean, I'm pretty sure
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  Speaker 1: he was getting ready to throw at someone and get
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  Speaker 1: ejected by the first or second inning. But when you're
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  Speaker 1: already up three to nothing before the blink of an eye,
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  Speaker 1: there really was no call for it. And so we
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  Speaker 1: didn't even have that in the game yesterday, And by
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  Speaker 1: the end of it, you got a position player pitching,
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  Speaker 1: which is the example of how the.
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  Speaker 2: Day did not go well in a major League baseball game.
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  Speaker 4: I it was I found myself having a conversation with
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  Speaker 4: myself last night, like like trying to talk myself into
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  Speaker 4: still having some faith in this team. And it was
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  Speaker 4: kind of a depressing conversation with myself that I was
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  Speaker 4: having because I just.
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  Speaker 3: Don't know what.
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  Speaker 4: Possible spark or fight or thing they would have. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what more you need, you know, than
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  Speaker 4: what you had on Wednesday to show that you were
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  Speaker 4: all in. Yesterday, they didn't have to be all I
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  Speaker 4: mean yesterday, they didn't have to have each other's back
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  Speaker 4: because no one showed up. So it was like, well,
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  Speaker 4: good at least we all did this together. So Wednesday
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  Speaker 4: we all showed up and had each other's back. Thursday
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  Speaker 4: we were all like, let's just hang out and not
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  Speaker 4: really perform.
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  Speaker 3: Well I don't.
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  Speaker 4: I just I was like, I'm not giving up on
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  Speaker 4: this team because I just can't.
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  Speaker 3: It's the hardened Mariners fan in me.
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  Speaker 4: I suppose, yeah, but I find it hard to be excited,
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  Speaker 4: like even thinking about tonight, like I'll put it on,
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  Speaker 4: but what am I gonna see?
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  Speaker 3: I just I can't. It's I feel like I've never ridden.
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  Speaker 4: A roller coaster with this team, as much as I
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  Speaker 4: have ridden one this year.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, I don't even think it's been a roller coaster.
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  Speaker 2: I mean roller coasters have to have highs and lows.
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  Speaker 2: I mean there's been.
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  Speaker 3: Some very limited highs I.
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  Speaker 1: Mean, and never extended. It's one night here and there
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  Speaker 1: where you're like, wow, now that was pulling one out
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  Speaker 1: of the fire. Here we go, and then the next
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  Speaker 1: night and I know it's not effort, and I know
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  Speaker 1: that it's not caring.
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  Speaker 2: I know that, but it is.
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  Speaker 1: And I heard Dick Fane talking about this last night.
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  Speaker 1: It is like, at this point we might have to
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  Speaker 1: acknowledge that this team's been far more one way than
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  Speaker 1: they have been the other, and that way is not good.
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  Speaker 2: And maybe this is who they are, that they are just.
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  Speaker 1: A collection of underachieving players who cannot ride momentum and
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  Speaker 1: cannot capture the same magic and energy that they showed
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  Speaker 1: from one and focused from one night into the other.
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  Speaker 1: And this team during the Depoto era, with some of
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  Speaker 1: the same guys in the clubhouse, used to be sort
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  Speaker 1: of famous for never giving up and creating crazy comebacks.
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  Speaker 1: And this team, I mean, honestly, once you're down three
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  Speaker 1: to nothing, it feels over. I said that Tuesday night
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  Speaker 1: in the Troy Melton game, the moment they fell behind
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  Speaker 1: three to nothing on the where Emerson gave up the
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  Speaker 1: base at to cold Keith, it felt over. The moment
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  Speaker 1: Bryce Miller left the mound for the first time yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: it felt over.
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  Speaker 3: Which was said disappointing with him on the mound too.
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  Speaker 1: And to me, that's different about this team than any
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  Speaker 1: of the teams.
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  Speaker 2: That we've watched in the Depoto era.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if I've ever attached that to a
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  Speaker 1: Mariners team here recently, where where you just at two nothing,
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  Speaker 1: three to nothing feel like okay, Well, let's see what
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  Speaker 1: else is on television. I guess there's a preseason football
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  Speaker 1: game tonight, or you know, you know, maybe maybe they're
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  Speaker 1: saying something interesting on Pardon the interruption, you know. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And and yet that's that's what we're dealing with now.
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  Speaker 1: I say that. And this really wasn't the angle I
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  Speaker 1: was going to take, but here we are to start
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  Speaker 1: the show today. I say that, and because of the
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  Speaker 1: way that the American League has cooperated this year, and
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  Speaker 1: the American League West is cooperated, it really does take
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  Speaker 1: ten good days of baseball, ten good days of baseball
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  Speaker 1: and you're in first place, you know. And I'm not
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  Speaker 1: talking about ten straight wins. I'm not talking about anything magical, right,
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking about right, I'm talking about one of those
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  Speaker 1: runs that almost every team has where they play even
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  Speaker 1: better than they are on paper. And we think, or
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  Speaker 1: we thought this team on paper was a world championship
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  Speaker 1: contender this year, and so you know, maybe they're not
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  Speaker 1: going to be that consistent team, but they have to
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  Speaker 1: have one run in them, right, They have to have
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  Speaker 1: one ten game stretch where they play better than they
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  Speaker 1: have for most of the season. Every team has one,
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  Speaker 1: and if they get one, and you got forty six
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  Speaker 1: games to figure this out. If they get like a
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  Speaker 1: ten game stretch, it's going to be against good competition.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, they get a ten game stretch and
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  Speaker 1: they go eight and two, they're probably gonna emerge on
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  Speaker 1: the other side tied with the Astros or within a
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  Speaker 1: game of the Astros with you know, another couple weeks
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  Speaker 1: a month to play to make up a game. And
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  Speaker 1: so it's really all it takes. And it's certainly not
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  Speaker 1: out of the question, but it is I I would
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  Speaker 1: say to your point, actually, the most frustrating thing about it,
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  Speaker 1: and the reason you can't get excited about this team
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  Speaker 1: is because they cannot take advantage of momentum in.
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  Speaker 2: Any single way.
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  Speaker 1: You were sure when the first pitch was thrown yesterday
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  Speaker 1: that this team had a great shot at going two
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  Speaker 1: out of three, did.
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  Speaker 2: You not, Oh?
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely?
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  Speaker 1: And winning yesterday and starting something and Tuesday was supposed
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  Speaker 1: to represent a spark, right, can't start a fire without
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  Speaker 1: a spark. That was supposed to represent a spark. We've said,
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  Speaker 1: we've we've mistook a lot of sparks this year, yep.
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  Speaker 1: And and so that you know, you felt good about
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  Speaker 1: going into that game, and then within a half an
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  Speaker 1: inning you suddenly like, oh, it's one of those days again. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So right, I guess Tampa. I guess we'll focus on Tampa.
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  Speaker 1: Hopefully we get it going against them. So three games out,
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  Speaker 1: forty six to play, plenty of time to come back
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  Speaker 1: from it. But you and Dick Fane and a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people listening right now, are right where has been
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  Speaker 1: the evidence that you can put together a good stretch
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  Speaker 1: of baseball Because you haven't done it in four months, And.
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  Speaker 4: If you're concerned at all, and then you look at
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  Speaker 4: the schedule, that's like a double concern because you've got
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  Speaker 4: Tampa Bay in town. Then you go to New York,
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  Speaker 4: then you go to Houston, then you go to Milwaukee,
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  Speaker 4: then you're any of the Cubs, then you have the Phillies.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, there's no break.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not worried about that as much because this team
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  Speaker 1: has always been weird.
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  Speaker 3: That way, true.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, even even you know, over the course of
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  Speaker 1: the last ten years of Mariners baseball, I mean, they
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  Speaker 1: come up with their streak at the weirdest times where
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  Speaker 1: you're sure that they're dead in the water, and then
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  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, when once you've given up on them,
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  Speaker 1: then they rattle off, you know, eleven straight wins against
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  Speaker 1: the twelve Disciples.
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  Speaker 2: I like that. So they can be now, yeah, they
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  Speaker 2: can beat anybody.
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  Speaker 1: They can be like an all star team of the
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  Speaker 1: Yankees and Dodgers combined, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: mean that's that's how weird they've been. But this team
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  Speaker 1: has not operated like even some of the Mariners teams
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  Speaker 1: that we've watched in recent years. And so we wait
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  Speaker 1: and we hope, and I would just say, don't give up,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I don't. I mean, I don't want you
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  Speaker 1: to be the person that's like I'm a Nationals fan, now,
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  Speaker 1: I mean I would urge you not to give up.
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  Speaker 1: I'd urge you to stay on the ride, no matter
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  Speaker 1: how bumpy it gets. But yes, I think there is
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  Speaker 1: a there has been a major problem with this team
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  Speaker 1: remaining focused from one day to the next. We just
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  Speaker 1: don't see the same team show up two days in
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  Speaker 1: a row. It just doesn't happen.
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  Speaker 4: No, and Mariners fans are glutton for punishment, right we
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  Speaker 4: I mean, especially me, I know I will even on
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  Speaker 4: years where we are out of the playoffs, I'm like, well,
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  Speaker 4: are we really out till the season's over, like we
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  Speaker 4: could be mathematically eliminated, and I'm like there's still a
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  Speaker 4: chance though, And.
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  Speaker 1: So well, I'm not that way. I'm not that way
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  Speaker 1: because I'm not just I just not bred as a
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  Speaker 1: sports fan that way. I'm not that way. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you the moment that I think it's over
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  Speaker 1: and out. By the way, since you've been on the
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  Speaker 1: show with me, you know that there have been a
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  Speaker 1: couple times in the last six years where I thought
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  Speaker 1: it was over and then they rallied. Yeah, So I
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  Speaker 1: mean I've declared it. So I'm not always had a
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: great instinct about this. I'm I'm not that way.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: I will just tell you practically, there are forty six
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: games left. You are only three games back, and the
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: teams that you're chasing down. The team that you're chasing down,
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: whether it's the Astros or Rangers, are not any good.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: They're mediocre baseball teams. So all it takes is to
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: get on a run, one run. This entire six month season,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty two game schedule, you still have
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: time to get on one run, and if you do that,
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: you catch up, and then once you're even steven. Maybe
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: we have an eleven game season to determine the division
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: at the end of the year, and so they do
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: have a really good chance of still getting into the playoffs.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: And once you get into the playoffs in baseball, maybe
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: not in football, maybe not in basketball, but in baseball,
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: once you.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: Get into the playoffs, you got a shot. Anything can happen.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: It is so true. It's not a cliche. Anything can happen.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: The Dodgers won by a.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: Cleat in the World Series last year against a team
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: that the Mariners should have beaten, in the Toronto Blue Jays,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: and so I mean that's really all it takes. And
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: we've seen plenty of teams throughout Major League Baseball history
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: that throughout the course of the season people thought they
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: had no chance and were ready to give up on
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: them and ended up winning the World Series. Plenty of examples,
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: the first Kansas City Royals champion, the Minnesota Twins of
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: my youth in nineteen eighty seven. I mean, I could
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: rattle off ten of them for you. I won't because
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: I got to throw it to what's on tap. But
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: it's not like it hasn't happened before. So we just
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: need to see. I mean, please just get hot, yeah,
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: just get hot.
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: String something together, help us to see something positive, and
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: then the next day come back and see more positives.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: That's all I want.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: And we're not asking this. If you had Colorado Rockies talent,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: you know you have the talent. Everybody can see that
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: you have the talent. And yet, for whatever reason, and
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: maybe it is leadership, which we'll get back into later
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: on in the program, there is just no ability to
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: put to get to stack good performances from this team
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: this year.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: All right, let's find out what's on tap for the
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: rest of the show. Please.
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• 19:52
  Speaker 2: All right, let's go through your headlines quickly.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: It's the Tigers over the Mariners yesterday eleven and nothing.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: The final score. The will be an action against the
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Rays tonight. Logan Gilbert for us, which is good,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: but Drew Rasmussen for them, which is not good. Because
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: the best team in the American League this season has
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: its best pitcher going against US. Tonight. First pitch is
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: at six forty five ish. I'll say ish, because I
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: don't know with all of these promotions and ceremonies they
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: have going on to celebrate the fiftieth year of the
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: franchise history, I don't know if something's going to get
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: in the way. I don't know if, for all I know,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: dajo Le's here to sing the national anthem, I don't know. Spectacular, Yeah,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: it would be great, but you know, you know, daho
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: you know, just hogging the spotlight. It could go on
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: for could be like one of those Marvin Gay, you
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: know it's national anthems that goes on for like eleven
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: and a half minutes, and that would delay the start
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: of the game. So be prepared for anything this weekend
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: if you're planning to be part of the celebration. And
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: I do have to, we have to. You and I
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: actually have to discuss this weekend because we haven't done
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: it a lot, and there's a reason for that during
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: the course of the last week or last month. But
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: today we're gonna we're gonna chew it up a little bit.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: Coming up later on in the program, Hall of Fame
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: game last night. They're calling it the greatest Hall of
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: Fame game of all time, usually because it's unwatchable. Yeah,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: but last night Carolina outscored the Arizona Cardinals thirty three
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: to thirty. It's technically not even a preseason game, but
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: it was professional football. It was professional football players trying
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: to achieve either roster spots or playing time. And so
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: football is back. And Carson Beck, by the way, put
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: on a pretty good show last night, the third round
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: pick out of Miami for the Arizona Cardinals, even though
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: the Panthers won. It's also Hall of Fame weekend. Drew Brees,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald, Luke Keigley, Adam Vinettieri, and Roger Craig are
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: gonna be inducted into the Hall of Fame this weekend.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: In Canton, Ohio, Seahawks training camp continues.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: We'll talk to Greg Bell today at eight thirty, and
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Tory Horton's going to join us in Greg's normal spot
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: at seven oh five. So rude of Tory to bump
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: Greg Bell from another seven oh five segment today, But hey,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? The Seahawks, by the way,
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: they'll open their preseason schedule next Saturday, so just eight
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: days away from that, and they will be at home
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: against the Dallas Cowboys and Huskies. Camp got underway yesterday
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Jed Fisher's third season at the heme of the Washington Huskies,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: and so college.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Football also lit that firecracker yesterday.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: The Coops opened camp as well, and so we start
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: the countdown to the Apple Cup of course and its
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: traditional slot Sunday, September sixth.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: We yeah, all right.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: We'll talk more about that Little League World Series and
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: more coming up on the show, but we'll detail the
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: grim accounts of yesterday's Mariners game with Mariners morning after
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Next Sports Radio ninety three point three KHARFM. I mean
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: it was all your fault, Mariners. It could have been
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: two terms tables in a microphone.
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: Could have been and that would have been super fun.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, they are a lot of difverythings we could
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: have taken from the Beck catalog, but uh, we picked
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: the thing you're acting most like, Yeah, it kind of
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: hurts them. And when I say we, I don't mean
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Ashley and I I mean this is public at large,
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: that's right, the Mariner fan base, that's right. They are frustrated.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: They want you to know they are playing in our
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: Mariners morning after segment requesting the most shot taking Beck
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: song that exists. Correct, Yeah, and you've earned it.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And if they could play this right to your
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: crotch as like a kick, yeah.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: Right, big Beck kick in the nuts.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Beck to the baby maker.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: That's what let's do it.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: That's what the Mariner fan base is saying.
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: Mariners tried to take advantage of that spark, right, that
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: spark that was created the night before by taking out
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: the tag. There's two games out of three, a day game.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: It was hot, it was hazy, but we had Bryce
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: Miller on the mound. They had Framber Valdez. We kind
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: of expected an epic game, an epic game where there
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: could be a bench clearing brawl with Framber Valdez taking
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: the mound. Dan Wilson not there. He had been suspended
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: by Major League Baseball immediately for the next game and
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: so he was not on the sidelines. We also, with
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Bryce Miller on the mound, thought pretty good chance to
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: win this thing, right, But unfortunately Bryce really didn't get
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: out of the first inning. When I say that, I
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: don't mean that he was done after inning number one,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: but he gave up more runs than we could afford.
• 24:46
  Speaker 7: Now this is carrying and taking Julio back and it's gone.
• 24:50
  Speaker 7: Dylan Dingler home ring yet again against the Mariners. He
• 24:56
  Speaker 7: has homered every game this series.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Dylan Dingler got him started early and they just poured
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: it on. Three runs in the first, another one in
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: the second, and once again the Mariners offense does not
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: put up a fight. They have been shut out eleven
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: times this year. Eleven Nothing was the final score in
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: this one. Framber Valdez went seven shutout innings. Bryce Miller
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: got through five and then handed it over to a
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: bullpen that featured Victor Roblaze yesterday. Yes, that'll sum it
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: up for you. Tigers win it eleven to nothing over
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: the Ems, who dropped four games under five hundred, had
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: a chance to gain a half game in the division,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: ended up losing a half game. So as we sit
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: here this morning, three games out of first place from
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: the Houston Astros. Dan Wilson was not there to give
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: us a terrible press conference after the game. Maniacta filled
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: in for him as the one day manager, and those
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: responsibilities did talking to the press after an eleven nothing lost.
• 26:03
  Speaker 8: Very young crushturistic by Bryce didn't come out very sharp
• 26:09
  Speaker 8: from the get going, madles play catch up baseball, but
• 26:12
  Speaker 8: couldn't do anything offensively anyways, So the big boy came
• 26:19
  Speaker 8: out of the game at the end as you saw
• 26:21
  Speaker 8: with the tight oblique training staff. Consider that it's not
• 26:28
  Speaker 8: as bad due to the testing that they did on him,
• 26:31
  Speaker 8: but overall just not a good bug game.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: An what did you see from Bryce in the first
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: made get some shows.
• 26:42
  Speaker 8: Or Yeah, he wasn't sharp from the get go with
• 26:47
  Speaker 8: his whole repertoire, and we all know that's what we
• 26:52
  Speaker 8: pretach here. Walks are bad, not only him, but the
• 26:56
  Speaker 8: rest of the guys. He seemed like whenever we ended
• 26:58
  Speaker 8: up walking a guy long ball, follow follow it up,
• 27:03
  Speaker 8: how close we you going out there and getting pretty close?
• 27:07
  Speaker 8: And that's where he deserves a lot of credit, where
• 27:10
  Speaker 8: he righted the ship and was able to get through
• 27:13
  Speaker 8: five innings because he was very close to put our
• 27:16
  Speaker 8: bullpen on a on a really tough spot. I think, uh,
• 27:21
  Speaker 8: you know, we have a different lineup now and it's
• 27:24
  Speaker 8: just a matter of time. Uh, this guy's taking off
• 27:27
  Speaker 8: I think adding bend and down the bean and getting
• 27:31
  Speaker 8: Taylor Ward adding into our lineup. I think he's gonna
• 27:35
  Speaker 8: do wonders. It's just not gonna happen over and overnight.
• 27:39
  Speaker 8: But uh, you know, we had a couple of guys
• 27:41
  Speaker 8: that had scheduled days off today. But I'm looking forward
• 27:44
  Speaker 8: to seeing these nine guys that we're going to throw
• 27:46
  Speaker 8: out there going forward.
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, it's like night and day in a
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: press conference.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: That is more than Dan Wilson has said and all
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: of his press conferences combined.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: He actually showed disappointment.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: He didn't act like, well, yeah, tough one baseball, No,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? Yeah, sometimes you win, sometimes
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: you lose. Yeah. I chewed my gum a lot though. Yeah,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: so we didn't get any of that.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: He actually was a little critical without sounding like he
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: was throwing players under the bus. What's wrong with saying, hey,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: we can't walk guys, what's wrong with that?
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: Well, and what's wrong with saying yeah he bryce was
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: close to putting this in a really tough spot with
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: the bullpen.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: So I've been giving him credit.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: Because he didn't. He managed to stay in there for five.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, isn't there a way to finesse this
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: isn't there a way to acknowledge, like, yeah, that's just
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: not good. And then offense, we just never showed up,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: just didn't show up. But but but we just added
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: two guys. We think it's gonna work. It just doesn't
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: happen overnight. Okay, all right, I can live with that. No, yeah,
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: I mean adding Taylor Ward and Brendan Donovan. As exciting
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: as that was that day, that given day at the
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: trading deadline to add two pieces, and looking at the
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: lineup and how much longer and deeper that it appeared
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: to be. I mean, they weren't coming here to sprinkle
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: pixie dust over the thing. I mean, we didn't add
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Babe Ruth and Jimmy Fox at the trading deadline or
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: coming off the injury list. I mean, we added two
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: good major league players to the lineup and the span
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: of twenty four hours, and it felt good, But it
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: didn't mean everything else was going to turn around just
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: because of their presence. And so to say that like, hey,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: we feel good about it, we think it's heading in
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: the right direction. We do believe we're going to hit
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: with this group. But I can't sugarcoat. What I watched
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: there today that was just terrible. And he didn't say
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: that Ashley word for word, but he kind of suggested
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: it for the first time somebody suggested it.
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: Yea, he said it wasn't that wasn't a good baseball game,
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: or that was a bad baseball game. There's nothing wrong
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: with saying that. You don't have to say it was
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: a tough one. It was a bad baseball game. And
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: we talked yesterday about Ai, Dan or whatever. I think
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: Manny has earned the job of taking over the postgame
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: press conferences for Dan.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: All right, fine, all right, I'm good with that for sure. Yeah,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: and I'm not saying Manny Actor should be the manager.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: But the postgame press conference, guy.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: I might be saying that Dan Wilson shouldn't be the manager.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, I've been saying that for
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: quite some time. I'm gonna see, Yeah, tonight it will
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: be Logan Gilbert, It'll be Drew Rasmuss. And that's a
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: heck of a pitching matchup, and for a team that
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: got shut out twice by the Tigers in the last
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: three days. Now, Look, Valdez is obviously really has been
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: a really good pitcher throughout his career, and Troy Melton
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: I warned you how great he is. So it's not
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: like you face some chumps in that Tigers series, and
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: you're not going to face a chump Tonightrew Rasmussen's been
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: like cy Young type pitcher this year, So you're facing
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: a really good pitcher tonight. And you obviously have some
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: monstrous offensive challenges that you cannot overcome this season, and
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: so this is not going.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: To be easy.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: There will be a lot of things to distract you
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: this weekend at t Mobile, but the actual baseball itself,
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: which matters to me the most, and I think to
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: most listening, Well, we got a work cut out for
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: us to get out of this four month long offensive funk.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: But maybe the Boys rattle the match tonight.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: We shall see Gilbert versus ras mussin first pitch tonight
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: at six forty five. All Right, Tory Horton's going to
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: join us today at seven oh five. Coming up next
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: on the radio program. It is a big weekend in
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: the National Football League, and I always take at least
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: a segment every year to talk about the big.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: Weekend in Canton, Ohio.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: And I'm wondering how many weekend or years in a
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: row we could have a huge Seahawk presence starting next
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: year and going forward at the Hall of Fame weekend.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: We'll talk about it next. Sports Radio ninety three point
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: three KHRFM, all right.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Seven o'clock hour here from the Virginia Mason Athletic Center,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Seahawks training camp continuing here today.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: And joining us live at our set.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: Second year wide receiver out of Colorad oh State teammate
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: a splash last year with this football team, and then
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: we didn't get to see him sadly enough for a
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: little while, and so it's time to get caught up
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: to date with Tory Horton here on the radio program.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: How you doing man, Welcome to the morning show.
• 32:41
  Speaker 9: I'm doing great, man, appreciate you guys having me here.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, great to have you. Great to get to know
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: you a little bit, and I would just start off.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: I don't want to bury the lead. I know a
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: lot of people want to know about your health. Want
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: to make sure Tory Horton's one hundred percent ready to go,
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: So give us an update.
• 32:56
  Speaker 9: Yeah, and I'm feeling great. Body's feeling good.
• 32:59
  Speaker 10: Everything is feeling you know, in line attack, So I
• 33:02
  Speaker 10: like the transport a great plan and you know, just
• 33:05
  Speaker 10: been following that plan. So I feel great out there
• 33:07
  Speaker 10: on the field and you know, just a lot of
• 33:09
  Speaker 10: hard work. So yeah, I'm feeling good, ready to go.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: Good.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: Well, I know when the first day of camp you
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: became quite a big story. He's out here on the field,
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: he's practicing, and then the next day you didn't, uh,
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: and then people are like, oh, then they're a little worried.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: But that's part of the process, right, like your.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: First time out there for a while.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: They just that's part of the rehab, is just to
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: make sure they're not pushing you too hard, give you
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: that rest after an active day. Is that is that accurate?
• 33:35
  Speaker 10: Yeah, it's just kind of a little bit of like
• 33:38
  Speaker 10: a rep count that they have going on, just making
• 33:40
  Speaker 10: sure they've been extra cautious of you know what, you know,
• 33:45
  Speaker 10: how much is too much and just seeing how the
• 33:47
  Speaker 10: body reacts and not fly strict and his staff is
• 33:50
  Speaker 10: doing the you know, have a great plan for that,
• 33:52
  Speaker 10: and you know it's been working and nobody's just been feeling,
• 33:56
  Speaker 10: you know, real good, and you know it just feels
• 33:58
  Speaker 10: great going into the season.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: I mean fans get frustrated when they don't get to
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: see a player play football, and sometimes they can be
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: mean and nasty and everything else. But give us the
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: perspective of where you're coming from, Like you don't think
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: I want to be out there on the football field.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: I mean you you at your in your college career,
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: you had a major injury set back and you didn't
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: get to do some of the things that I know
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: you wanted to achieve as a Colorado State ram and
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: then you make this great splash, this great impression, and
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: then all of a sudden you're battling another injury. How
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: frustrating has that been for you here over the course
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: the last two three years of your life.
• 34:33
  Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, it's real hard. You know, just you know,
• 34:35
  Speaker 10: all you want to do is be on the field,
• 34:37
  Speaker 10: you know, performing and playing. And you know, the injury
• 34:40
  Speaker 10: from you know, Colorado that was that was unfortunate, and
• 34:45
  Speaker 10: you know, sometimes you just have to take your time
• 34:48
  Speaker 10: to get back into you know, into your full potential.
• 34:52
  Speaker 10: And you know, of course last year was a little
• 34:55
  Speaker 10: bit of a russ getting back. So you know, who
• 34:57
  Speaker 10: know that that could have been, you know, a stardom
• 35:00
  Speaker 10: point to you know, the other injury that you know
• 35:02
  Speaker 10: that popped up out of nowhere, and uh, you know,
• 35:05
  Speaker 10: I just feel like you just got to be you know,
• 35:07
  Speaker 10: sometimes real cautious of how you approach things and be
• 35:10
  Speaker 10: real smart and mentally, you know, tough on how you
• 35:13
  Speaker 10: attack each day, especially for the recovery days, and just
• 35:17
  Speaker 10: having a good mindset and mental uh, you.
• 35:19
  Speaker 9: Know, going ahead of these things.
• 35:20
  Speaker 10: So, uh, you know, it's such a bummer not being
• 35:24
  Speaker 10: out there performing, and you know, I wouldn't want to,
• 35:29
  Speaker 10: you know, be sitting.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: Out Yeah, exactly.
• 35:31
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I understand how the fans feel and know the
• 35:34
  Speaker 10: people in the outside of the world feeling, but you know,
• 35:36
  Speaker 10: we feel the same way here.
• 35:38
  Speaker 9: You know, we wish we were on the field.
• 35:39
  Speaker 10: So it's it's a lot of you know, it's it's
• 35:42
  Speaker 10: a lot of thoughts going through when you not able
• 35:44
  Speaker 10: to go out there.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: Tory Horton is with US Seahawks wide receiver, second year
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: uh in the league, and look, I I will get
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: the hard knocks in a moment. But I heard Spoons
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: say on the first episode of Hard Knocks, like when
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: you get that first taste of confidence as the professional level,
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: it is so important. It unlocks something you not only
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: got a taste of it. I mean you showed last
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: year I can play at this level, I can score touchdowns,
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: I can return kicks. What did that do for your
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: confidence as a football player?
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: To have even though it.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Was for a shorter period of time than you preferred,
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: but to have that much success that reassured that you
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: belong in this league and can be a productive player.
• 36:24
  Speaker 10: Oh yeah, I just feel like you just gotta be consistent,
• 36:27
  Speaker 10: you know, just having that consistent approaching mindset to practices
• 36:30
  Speaker 10: and games.
• 36:31
  Speaker 9: And even in the meeting room.
• 36:33
  Speaker 10: I feel like that's what makes it easier on game days,
• 36:35
  Speaker 10: is just having that consistent approach, being on top of
• 36:40
  Speaker 10: the on top of the game, the plays and the
• 36:42
  Speaker 10: film work, and you know, taking that to the field
• 36:44
  Speaker 10: and with so much practice and how we practice here,
• 36:48
  Speaker 10: sometimes it makes the game feel, you know, slowed down
• 36:51
  Speaker 10: just a tad bit just because of how you know,
• 36:53
  Speaker 10: intense we go at practice, and you know, I feel
• 36:56
  Speaker 10: like I just try to keep my mindset and my
• 36:58
  Speaker 10: mental on being consistent on each play and uh, you know,
• 37:03
  Speaker 10: just each situation and let that take take control throughout
• 37:07
  Speaker 10: the game, you know, not trying to you.
• 37:08
  Speaker 9: Know, overdo or you know, change up something.
• 37:11
  Speaker 10: Just letting my preparation and you know, my just just
• 37:15
  Speaker 10: my hard work take you know, take that jump to
• 37:18
  Speaker 10: the to the game from practice, and you know, once
• 37:21
  Speaker 10: you get in there, I fight all the nerves start
• 37:24
  Speaker 10: to chill because it's like, hey, we've we've been here before,
• 37:26
  Speaker 10: We've practiced this before, and shoot, we had one of
• 37:29
  Speaker 10: the best defense in the league, the best defense in
• 37:31
  Speaker 10: the league. So it's like, you know, if I'm out
• 37:33
  Speaker 10: here competing against these guys every day, you know, that's
• 37:37
  Speaker 10: that's great looks for me going into you know, the
• 37:40
  Speaker 10: preseason and into the regular season. You know, our defense practice,
• 37:43
  Speaker 10: you know, they practice the ass off every day and
• 37:45
  Speaker 10: it's it's tough looks and you know, I f like
• 37:47
  Speaker 10: Mike does a great job with the defense, So you know,
• 37:50
  Speaker 10: just going against them every day, it's like that iron
• 37:52
  Speaker 10: stoppings iron. So going into that preseason game day, you
• 37:55
  Speaker 10: kind of just got to take every you know, just
• 37:57
  Speaker 10: just every day that you've been preparing to the game,
• 38:00
  Speaker 10: and you know, just having that, you know, that preparation
• 38:03
  Speaker 10: and just that consistent mindset going into the game, telling yourself,
• 38:06
  Speaker 10: you know, I've been here, I've seen these plays.
• 38:08
  Speaker 9: I've seen these kind of looks and just laying your
• 38:10
  Speaker 9: game take over at that point.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: But just spoon have to talk as much as he
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: does all the football field, huh.
• 38:16
  Speaker 9: He you know he don't.
• 38:18
  Speaker 10: But yeah, yeah, we we we love that though. You know,
• 38:21
  Speaker 10: he's a he's a real competitor man. He gets everyone going.
• 38:25
  Speaker 10: You know, he he talks trash to us, and then
• 38:28
  Speaker 10: you know when when he gets b r like something
• 38:30
  Speaker 10: happens that.
• 38:31
  Speaker 9: You know, we we get a good jump on him.
• 38:34
  Speaker 9: You know, he's not he's not.
• 38:36
  Speaker 10: Afraid to be like you got me on now when
• 38:38
  Speaker 10: we're gonna strap up and we're gonna get to the
• 38:39
  Speaker 10: next rep. And you know that's what you gotta love
• 38:41
  Speaker 10: about him. You know he's gonna he's gonna be you know,
• 38:45
  Speaker 10: he's gonna he's gonna respect, respect the little l's that
• 38:49
  Speaker 10: he may take at practice and be like you know
• 38:51
  Speaker 10: that that that ain't no real l That's just a
• 38:53
  Speaker 10: learning curve for me because I did this or I
• 38:55
  Speaker 10: did that, and you know, just me coming in my
• 38:58
  Speaker 10: rookie year, I would against him a few times and
• 39:01
  Speaker 10: it was even times where he was coaching me up
• 39:03
  Speaker 10: on you know, just certain indicators and things like that
• 39:06
  Speaker 10: on what he's looking for. And you know what I
• 39:08
  Speaker 10: may have gave, gave a way to give him a
• 39:11
  Speaker 10: better edge. And you know, thats just something that you know,
• 39:14
  Speaker 10: hearing from a VET and just a guy like him.
• 39:16
  Speaker 10: I try to take from him and implement that into
• 39:18
  Speaker 10: my game to try to you know, not show so
• 39:22
  Speaker 10: much of that of what a dB is looking for.
• 39:24
  Speaker 10: And I feel like he helps out a lot with
• 39:27
  Speaker 10: you know, just just great looks and disguises on defense.
• 39:31
  Speaker 10: And you know he's just all around competitor. So you know,
• 39:33
  Speaker 10: going against him, man, he's making everyone better and just
• 39:37
  Speaker 10: a trash talk.
• 39:37
  Speaker 9: You know, you get a lot of trash talk throughout
• 39:39
  Speaker 9: the league, but.
• 39:41
  Speaker 10: I don't know if anyone trash talks like Spoom Man,
• 39:45
  Speaker 10: he gets it going. You know, he'd be he'll be quiet,
• 39:50
  Speaker 10: He'll be quiet through the day and then it'd be
• 39:52
  Speaker 10: one little thing that you may have did our our
• 39:55
  Speaker 10: or try to do on him, and there you go,
• 39:57
  Speaker 10: he fired up.
• 39:58
  Speaker 9: And you know that's that's what get everyone on going.
• 40:00
  Speaker 10: So you need someone like Spoon out there who's gonna
• 40:03
  Speaker 10: you know, get you right mentally in physically. So yeah,
• 40:06
  Speaker 10: it's it's all, it's all kodles to him, much respect
• 40:09
  Speaker 10: for him.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about another of your teammates, because we've heard
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: JSN interviewed a lot about how much Cooper Cup has
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: helped his game. But he's not the only one out there.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: He's not the only receiver. He's not the only guy
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: in the wide receiver room that I'm sure Cooper Cup
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: is helping become as great a player as they possibly
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: can be. Talk about that, because that certainly has stood
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: out a lot about his game.
• 40:31
  Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, just the way Coop approaches every day.
• 40:35
  Speaker 10: You know this is uh he he he is that
• 40:39
  Speaker 10: coach on the field. You know, he he knows everything.
• 40:43
  Speaker 10: Just when Coop speaks, everyone is real quiet and everyone listens,
• 40:47
  Speaker 10: you know. Uh And with the year Jack's had even
• 40:50
  Speaker 10: to this day, during camping things like that, it's when
• 40:53
  Speaker 10: Kop speaks, everyone is is.
• 40:56
  Speaker 9: Is quiet and it's all ears because he.
• 40:59
  Speaker 10: Just has so much knowledge and just hitting nuggets in
• 41:02
  Speaker 10: the game that helps all the receivers take their game
• 41:05
  Speaker 10: to the next level, even if it's from slight adjustments
• 41:08
  Speaker 10: to just you know, looking at a route differently through
• 41:13
  Speaker 10: his vision and eyes because of a defense. You know,
• 41:16
  Speaker 10: that's just something that you want from a vet like that.
• 41:19
  Speaker 10: And you know Jackson, you know, Jackson has all the
• 41:23
  Speaker 10: capability in the world to go out there and perform,
• 41:25
  Speaker 10: but he still is that student of the game. When
• 41:28
  Speaker 10: when Coop is out there, you know, coaching up or
• 41:31
  Speaker 10: saying you know, hey, I'm I probably would have did
• 41:33
  Speaker 10: it like this with this kind of look and you
• 41:36
  Speaker 10: could just tell how you know, in sync and just
• 41:39
  Speaker 10: how like Spongy the whole receiver room is when Coop
• 41:42
  Speaker 10: is speaking that that life into us and you know,
• 41:45
  Speaker 10: you could see Coop out here is still you know,
• 41:48
  Speaker 10: with that mindset of him trying to learn himself, just
• 41:51
  Speaker 10: the way he's attacking the meetings and things like that,
• 41:54
  Speaker 10: like he's always still asking questions and sometimes I'm in
• 41:58
  Speaker 10: the meanings like Coop Man, there no reason for you
• 42:00
  Speaker 10: to be asking these questions because we know you know this.
• 42:03
  Speaker 10: And sometimes it's just him asking that question for the
• 42:07
  Speaker 10: other the other guys to hear, because maybe it's some
• 42:10
  Speaker 10: of the other rooks who don't want to ask that question,
• 42:12
  Speaker 10: but it's like Coop will ask that or you know, tell,
• 42:15
  Speaker 10: tell the coach can he rehit that for the other
• 42:18
  Speaker 10: you know, for the other players who's probably you know,
• 42:22
  Speaker 10: a little more afraid to ask those questions. And you
• 42:25
  Speaker 10: just tell like he he loves the game so much,
• 42:27
  Speaker 10: and you know he comes out here, they're ready to work,
• 42:30
  Speaker 10: and he's still he's getting great plays left and right.
• 42:32
  Speaker 10: And you know it's a lot of it's a lot
• 42:35
  Speaker 10: of us receivers who still goes to Coop and Jackson.
• 42:38
  Speaker 10: She just asking them guys like, man, what y'all doing
• 42:40
  Speaker 10: on these plays? How y'all attacking this? And you know
• 42:43
  Speaker 10: what you feel like is working when you know it's
• 42:45
  Speaker 10: it's someone playing this kind of technique and you know
• 42:48
  Speaker 10: they give you every hit and nugget that you could
• 42:50
  Speaker 10: possibly ask for.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: Soak up all that gravy. I mean, you might not
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: have another teammate like this, you know, get that knowledge
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: now and then all of a sudden you pass that
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: on someday to the next rookie that is coming up. Hell,
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: I could use a Cooper Cup in my life. He
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: should just sit here and say, you know, you should
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: have probably.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: Talked about this. Oh yeah, and your opinion on the Mariners.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: You know he will too. Then even last year, Man,
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: we used to break the huddles.
• 43:18
  Speaker 10: He used to tug me by my jersey, moving me,
• 43:20
  Speaker 10: move me into the right spot. I'm like, dang, come here.
• 43:22
  Speaker 10: He's like, no, it's the it's the precise details of
• 43:25
  Speaker 10: what you need to be aligned and just things like that.
• 43:28
  Speaker 10: And you know that's just something that you don't really
• 43:30
  Speaker 10: get from you know, a lot of a lot of
• 43:32
  Speaker 10: players in vests and you know, I'm just just grateful
• 43:36
  Speaker 10: to have him in the room.
• 43:37
  Speaker 9: Man. He is like that go to nugget that every
• 43:39
  Speaker 9: receiver room should have, our.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: Need have a feeling. He's in the cafeteria like, you
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: know what, the salisbury steak was a little off. Uh,
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: maybe maybe you go a little light on their salt.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: He is. He is on top of his peanut butter
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: and in there. I mean, we could really take this
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: to the next level. Uh.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: Well, man, have a great year. Thanks for stopping by.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: Was fun talking to you, and we'll do it again soon.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: How about that.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: Appreciate you all right.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: Tory Harton joining us right here on our set Seahawks
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: training camp. Yeah, great conversation here with Tory Horton. Not
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: a thousand more questions for him, but the guy's got
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: to get the practice for goodness sake. And so we
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: appreciate him stop it by here and joining us here
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: on the morning show.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: So wide receiver situation, the wide receiver.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: Room really good one. And it's a topic that I
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: don't know if other shows other analysts are bringing up
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: as much as I am. But yeah, I do believe
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: that there is a bigger role out there for Tory Horton.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: But I also, as I've repeated many times, I think
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: there's a bigger role out there for AJ Barner, and
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: I think that there's a bigger role out there for
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: Edwin Royo, and I think that there's or excuse me,
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: Elijah Royo, I think that there's a bigger role out there.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: It sounds like for running backs in the passing game.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: And yet I don't want Cooper Cup's numbers to drop.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: I think there might. I mean, the talk around here
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: is the Cooper Cup looks fantastic, like better than he
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: did a year ago at this time, not as a leader,
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: not as a coach on the field, but as a
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: football player. And then you had JSN, who I guess
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: two days ago, just dominated practice. So something sort of
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: has to give in all of this. I don't think
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: that this team under Brian Flurry is planning to go
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: to a forty pass attack kind of game playing this
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: upcoming season to try to keep everybody satisfied. I mean,
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: not all of these things can improve, Not all of
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: these things can grow. Not all of these players are
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: going to get more targets and more looks than what
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: they did a year ago. It's got to come from somewhere,
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: and I can't wait. And then you got Rashidia Heat
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: of course, seventeen million dollars. You're not planning on him
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: just being a kick returner.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: What is his role?
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: How is it going to get expanded now that he's
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: had a full offseason in the program? I mean, I
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: think it's one of the most fascinating, if not the
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: most fascinating topic on how this is going to unfold
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: for the offense. Obviously, the math suggests if you're going
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: to get X, Y and Z more targets, then you're
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: going to have to subtract them from V and W.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: And so who are those V and W? I mean
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: the obvious person would be JSN with one hundred and
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: twenty catches for goodness sake a year ago. But as
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: I spoke with Greg Bell about yesterday, that's also your
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: best wide receiver and the guy with the best chemistry
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: with your quarterback. And I know that if I mean,
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: I know enough about this game, I'll not have to be
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: Hugh Millen to be able to tell you that if
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: a quarterback drops back and things are tight, he's going
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: to go to a security blanket. He's going to be
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: Linus with that security blanket and lineup being Sam. A
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: security blanket. Wear's number eleven in this organization. And so
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: I don't think that's going to change either.
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: I would assume.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, mathematically, it kind of sounds like, well, if
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: you're going to find other catches and targets for everybody else,
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: well then they got to come away from the guy
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: that had one hundred and twenty catches and one hundred
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: and sixty targets a year ago. But I don't think
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: that that is one plus one equals to Ashley. I mean,
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: he's still our best receiver. I still want him to
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: get the ball a lot, and when it's crunch time,
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: it's a crucial situation, it's a third and six. I
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: have a feeling Sam Darnold, no matter what the game
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: plan is, no matter what the idea was in the
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: offseason to get such X player or why player more catches.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: He's going to throw to number eleven because he knows
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: he's the most reliable freak on the universe.
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think going into last year we would
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: have said, like, oh yeah, we could see them spreading
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: the ball around more and more. But after the season
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: that JSA had and now the expectations being even higher,
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: I think in general, for what he can deliver and
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: what Sam and him can deliver together, I wouldn't expect.
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: Sam to be throwing to anyone else. I mean, I know,
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: I know in the game, but I'm saying in.
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: Those moments, in those big moments, like what you're saying,
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: I don't, I wouldn't.
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: I would.
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: I think they will because they're going to surprise us,
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: and you know what, you never know what Brian Fleury
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: has up his sleeve, and obviously the offense. You know,
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: we've got a lot of talented players, and I think
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: every team is gonna expect that he'd be throwing to JSN.
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: So I'm sure we'll see some surprises, but I would
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: assume that's always gonna be first look.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: I Well, if not first look, certainly first in mind.
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: Like, I'm I need a play.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna see if Eleven's open, and he's almost always open,
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: so why would I throw to someone else? And they
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: might be having conversations as a team in the wide
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: receiver room and the quarterback room about like, I think
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: we can be more complete if we do spread the
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: ball around the more people. But I have a feeling
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: Jsn's like, oh, I think we were pretty complete last year. Yeah,
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: well we won the Super Bowl Offensive Player of the
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: Year over here. Hey, hey, everybody, I don't need to
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: catch fewer I don't think it's necessary that I catch
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: fewer balls than what I caught a year ago. So
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: I know you can give a Michael Jordan's speech about how, hey,
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: Michael Jordan, he didn't become a champion until he learned
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: that everybody else has to become involved in the offense.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: Jsn's argument to that is, I'm not saying I'm Michael Jordan,
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: but we won a Super Bowl. We've already become a
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: champion doing it this way. So I'm not trying to
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: take food out of my teammate's mouths. But I don't
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: think the solution is to take it out of mine
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: when it worked as well as it did a year ago.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: If it happens, it happens. I mean JSN had plenty
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: of games last year where maybe had three, well, not plenty.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: He had a couple where he had three four catches
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: and was asked about that afterwards, and he said, I
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: don't care. We won the football game. I know that's
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: the way he operates. But I'll tell you this. If
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: I'm JSN and you're trying to get the ball to
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: other guys and you lose a game, I think, maybe
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: not to the media, but maybe I behind closed door
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: say hey, you know what, we don't have to get
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: the ball to other guys. I mean, you, we did
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: pretty well getting the ball to me, so let's not
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: hurt the offense just because we're trying to make a
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: point of feeding the rock to others. I'm not saying
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: I'm Michael Jordan, but you still get Michael Jordan the
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: ball when the game is on the line.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: Yes, he still got the ball every time down the court,
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: So you know, you don't have to give me fewer
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: catches this upcoming season.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: That's how I'd feel if I were him, You.
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: Know, I would agree. I would I would absolutely agree
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: with that.
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: All right, ABC's of the m's coming your way next
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  Speaker 1: Sports Radio ninety three.
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  Speaker 2: Point three kJ. Just let it be our guide.
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  Speaker 1: We left off yesterday at the letter m M is
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: for MVP. Tonight against the Tampa Bay Rays, We're going
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: up against Junior Camanaro, who is right there in the
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: MVP conversation in the American League. It's probably either he
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: or Jordan Alvarez. That's probably your top two candidates at
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: this point. And unfortunately, both the Rays and the Astros,
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: if the season ended today are a playoff team, so
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: that'd be quite a vote. But Camonaro with ridiculous power.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: We faced him just a couple of weeks ago, we
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: know how dangerous he is, and so that is going
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: to be a crucial matchup tonight for Logan Gilbert and
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: throughout the weekend. YEP, we are facing basically the guy,
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: one of the two guys primarily in the American League
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: MVP conversation. But I also bring this up for another reason.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: The National League MVP conversation really started to heat up
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: this week show Aotani versus. This is PCA Pete Crow
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: Armstrong of the Chicago Cubs. They faced off against one
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: another a little bit earlier this week, and Pete crow
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: Armstrong and show A both hit two home runs in
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: the contest, and it kind of launched this conversation throughout
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: the course of the week as to how we're going
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: to measure these two against one another if they keep
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: up this pace, because show Hey got back to pitching
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: this year, and even though he hasn't pitched a lot,
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: he's only pitched I think, eighty five innings and fourteen
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: starts this year, and right now his pitching game is
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: on the shelf. He still has pitched, which Pete crow
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: Armstrong is not going to get to pitch this year,
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: and so Pete crow Armstrong's resume, though, is a little
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: bit differently.
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: And to me, I think that there's a very easy
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: way for a voter.
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying to come up with the conclusion, but
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: this is what you have to measure, and this is
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: what I think I'm missing from the MVP conversations that
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: are being held in the National League this week, and
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: that is it's very simple. The offensive numbers are pretty
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: similar across the board, so it really comes down to
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: what do you think is more valuable a starting pitcher
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: who's made fourteen starts this year but hasn't really been
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: available to his team versus, you know, for the entire
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: season as a pitcher, versus a gold glove maybe the
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: best defensive player in Major League Baseball playing every day.
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: And if that sounded slanted like I'm leaning toward PCA,
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: then I'm I'm really not. I think that that is.
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: But that is the crux of the conversation. That is
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: how I think this is ultimately going to be decided,
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: and we have two more months.
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: Of baseball to decide it. But that's that's how you're
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: going to have to weigh it.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: What's more valuable a goal glove centerfielder that's playing every
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: day and contributing that to his playoff caliber team or
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: a guy that freakishly not only only is one of
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: the best hitters in the sport, but also one of
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: the best pitchers in the sport when he's available. So
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: that's what the voters are going to have to measure,
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: and is for not there, as in, Dan Wilson was
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: not there yesterday.
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: So I suppose we.
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: Can't blame eleven to nothing on Dan Wilson yesterday if
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: he was not there. And yet can we because obviously
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: this is a team that you know, where is that
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: consistent play, where's that consistent fire? And if they can't
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: drum it up on their own, why is the coaching
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: staff not drumming it up? As you know, as everybody knows,
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: coming out of the All Star break, I called for
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: Dan Wilson's job right out of the All Star break.
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: I did not get my way. They did not listen
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: to me. He is still the manager, and I'm assuming
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: he's going to be at least through this weekend when
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: he's named one of the top fifty players in Mariner history.
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: But it was be.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: Interesting to see if this team continues to stumble, if
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: they'll try to save it with a managerial change. Ashley
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: Scott's service was fired on the twenty second of August,
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: so we are still two weeks away from the moment
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: that they chose to fire Scott's service and then, under
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: Dan Wilson, a new voice, a new leader, the team.
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: Rallied and missed the playoffs by one game.
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's too late to make this decision,
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: and it could end up saving the season, although I
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: doubt that they're going to.
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, we've got a lot of texts of
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: people who are like, they're just waiting till after the
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: fiftieth celebrations.
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: So there are a lot of people in that boat
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: that think that they.
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: Couldn't do it and then have him back for the
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: fiftieth celebration, which I agree would be super awkward.
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: Do I think that's a reason to keep a manager.
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: No, But I also am not surprised by it, So
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised if the weekend ends.
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: If I mean, if they sweep their I.
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: Don't think it'll happen, But if they have a bad weekend,
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: I could see it.
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: I don't. I totally agree with your point. I think
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: you could and maybe and I obviously this come from me,
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: though I think you should.
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: I don't think they will. But will they make the
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: move in the offseason because some people believe that he's
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: just locked in until he doesn't want to do it
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: anymore because of his value within the organization. Hey there's Mike,
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: there's coach. Coach McDonald walk into the field. Uh yeah, yeah,
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: And so maybe they wait to the offseason. Larry Stone
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: just said on Softy Show earlier this week, if they
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: don't make the playoffs. He doesn't see how they could
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: bring Dan Wilson back next year. Jerry Brewery yesterday on
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: the Softy and Fain radio program went even further. He said,
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: if the eighth best manager, not even the best manager,
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: the eighth best manager, I just think he just picked
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: a random number in baseball was managing this team, they'd
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: be in first place. It was a bold statement, a
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: great statement. I'd take it further. I think the eighty eighth,
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, there are more than eight managers in baseball,
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: some of them not even in the job, that are
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: better at Dan Wilson at managing a major League Baseball team.
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, there are guys out there that are better.
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: You just got to find that guy.
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: There are coaches out there that would have done a
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: better job with this team than what he's done. And
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: there are a lot more than just eight of the
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: active managers in Major League Baseball. I mean there's thirty eight,
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: forty eight, fifty eight, eighty eight. Like I said, there
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: are a lot of guys that I think would have
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: gotten the job done better this year and would have
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: this team in first place this year. And then I
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: would add on to that that something that I think
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: that might be considered by this team. I think you
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: could go out and get Kevin from the Tampa Bay
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: Race who were facing this weekend. Kevin Cash, who's considered
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: one of the best, and he's an analytics guy, and
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: he's also a player friendly guy, and yet his teams
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: always seem to produce, do they not?
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: And he is young, and he's funny, and he's got
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: a great personality and he's got a lot going for him.
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's sort of the he's like one of
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: the two or three, like one of the most. Stephen
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: Vote is another one that we let get out of
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: our our way, out of our organization. I mean, I'd
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: be willing to trade a player. I'm willing to go
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: Randy Win for Loop Panella on bringing in a Kevin
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: Cash or a Steven Vote. Don't sit around and wait
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: for them to like, uh, try to attract a guy
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: you know to your organization. Go hand pick the best
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: guy who I think would come here and take this
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: pitching staff and take this young nucleus. I think I
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: think Kevin Cash would run to Seattle, uh to manage
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: this team. Now I don't know him personally. Maybe I'm
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: maybe I'm way out on left field on this, but
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: I would consider it, I'd deeply consider it this offseason.
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: If you don't want to waste a group that you
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: think is incredibly talented and should be competing for championships
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: right now and yet are four games under five hundred.
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: If you are Justin and Jerry and John and you
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: don't want to waste this group, this nucleus, this foundation
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: in its championship window, then go out and force the issue.
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: Go get one of the elite managers out there, and
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: let's see what Kevin Cash can do.
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: With this roster next year. Okay, yeah, I mean you
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: can't get him now.
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: I know, but I'm gonna put my hands in and
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: we're all gonna break and say.
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: Cash, Yeah, yeah, I mean, let's do Yeah. He's he's
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: got a job now and he's gonna see that through
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: the end. But this offseason, why not finally os for offense?
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: And you know, I can sit here and talk about
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: Dan and and I'm and not.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: Be impressed with him as a manager and an inspirer
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: of men, but I will say he is not the problem.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: He is not the biggest problem. It is the offense.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: But once you but but I will say, you can't
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: fire the entire offense.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: Uh, some people would want to, and.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: So I do kind of blame I certainly blame the
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: manager more than I do the front office.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: And so I would say it is part of his responsibility.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: If you've been this lackluster for four months and you
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: know you have the talent to be better than this,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: that it is sort of it does sort of fall
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: at your feet. That your job is to make your
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: team better than what there they should be. That's your job.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: That's a manager's job. Give me whatever talent you want,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: and my job is to make it better. Well, we've
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: obviously grossly and achieved this year as a team and
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: certainly on offense. So I certainly think that it does
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: some of the responsibility lands with the manager for how
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: inconsistently this offense has has performed, and certainly some of
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: it lands on Sitzer and Edgar Martinez as well in
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: all of this, but we've got to get the offense going.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: And I would just say this he was on the
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: job one day as manager, but many acta I appreciated him.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: Ashley in his postgame comments yesterday pretty much just calling
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: out the offense for not showing up, because that's the
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: first time that's happened in two and.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: A half years.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was really refreshing.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so thank you, Manny. We appreciate it all right.
• 1:01:41
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  Speaker 1: stories of the day. So let's get cracking and we
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: will begin with the Mariners, who we thought, maybe, maybe
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: maybe Wednesday night game was the spark that they needed
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: to finally start playing the caliber of baseball we believe
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: as a community they are capable of playing, and instead,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: they rolled out maybe their worst game of the entire
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: season yesterday, getting trounced by the Detroit Tigers eleven to nothing.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: It was three to nothing within the first three batters
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: of the game and by the end of the game
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: Victor Roblayz was pitching. That tells you how bad it
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: went yesterday. Afternoon at T.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: Mobile, and you could hear it in our broadcasters' voices.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 7: One of the most deflating losses of the year for
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 7: the Maritors. They get absolutely boat raised eleven to nothing.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 7: They are held without an extra base, had need a
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 7: position player to finish it off. It was a bad
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 7: way to finish off this series. The Tigers win it,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 7: and they win two games in lopsided, shutout fashion.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: Aaron Goldsmith again, I think, great job, great call.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: Greatful He said that exactly how I felt.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: Maybe he gets in trouble for it. I don't know better,
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: I don't I've heard that they get criticized and called
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: into the office when they spell it out so negatively.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 4: Well do the players get criticized when they get shut
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 4: out eleven nothing by the front office asking for a friend?
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: But I love it.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: I think the broadcasters job is to narrate the season,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: and when it's been this disappointing, I like hearing that
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: Aaron Goldsmith's.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: Bothered by it.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: So nice job Aaron on the final call, And I
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: did think that that summed it up. I mean, you've
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: got Victor Roblaze on the mound. I mean you could
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: just whenever they showed the home played Ashley. There were
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: you know, like two fans left in the stands. People
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: were vacating by I think the fourth inning, I mean,
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: And the reason is that we've had so many of
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: these moments, the reason there's so many expectations and then
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: we've had so many of this moments like that's it, right, right, please, that's.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: The moment that's going to get them into gear. And
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: lately they.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: Can't even put together back to back good games, and
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: I get the frustration, and people are now just openly
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: showing it by leaving in the fourth inning of baseball games.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 4: Well, and I think earlier we had a conversation, Like
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 4: I said, I'm not giving up on this team, but
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 4: I think I figured out what I'm giving up on.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 4: I'm giving up on any hope that any game is
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 4: sparking anything for the next game. I'm just taking it. Okay,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 4: that was a win, Great, let's see what happens tomorrow.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: Get off this roller coaster I've put myself on.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we got a flush, any idea that they're gonna
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: create momentum because they've just been so god awful at it.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: They've been bursted creating momentum than they have at scoring
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: runs this season. So before franbervald has had a chance
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: to being a single Mariner hitter, they were down three
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: to nothing and they just cruise to an eleven nothing victory.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: So Seattle blows an opportunity to gain a half game
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: in the AL West. The fifty six and sixty Mariners
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: sit three games back, still forty six games to play.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to provide some silver lining for
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: you out there.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: I'm not.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: I'm just really presenting the facts. Because no one's run
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: away with anything in the American League West, because no
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: one's run away with anything in the.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: American League Wildcard.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: You really are just ten a stretch of ten games
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: of really good baseball doesn't even have to be perfect baseball.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: I'm not even talking about a ten game winning streak. Yeah,
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about eight out of ten.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: Can you do that? Eight out of ten?
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: And you were probably at the end of that ten
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: game stretch either going to be tied for first place
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: and potentially in first place, and then.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: You've got the rest of the season.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: However, many games are remaining after that ten, twenty thirty
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: games remaining to settle it so you can at least
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: get even with one good stretch of baseball. But we
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: have not received one of those all year long. The
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: Colorado Rockies have gotten a ten game stretch of playing
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: above their abilities, and yet the Mariners have not done
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: that all season long, and so very frustrating. I get it,
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: I understand it, and yet there is still hope because
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: of how many other teams in the American League have
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: cooperated in keeping the Mariners in this race, and that
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: leads us to Mariners Weekend. For many, the Mariners woes
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: will get lost in the shuffle of a massive fiftieth
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: birthday party the organization and is throwing this weekend. For others,
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: it clearly will not, but T Mobile is going to
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: be packed for a second Jimothy Knight tonight that includes
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: an old Timers home run derby.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: Oh, I went into AUF for Kulia. I'll only call
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: him big Al and I hit dangers.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: It still works, it does, and it's pretty much just
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: little Bucky Jacobson.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: That's who. Yeah, it is.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: Exactly That's what I thought of. He hits stingers.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: Although I guess Bucky was tiny, uh when he was
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: big Al's age. He turned out to be Big Bucky,
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: but he was.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: You know, it's probably little Owl now.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: Wouldn't be disappointing if you saw Big Al at the bar,
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: you know, now at age twenty five and he's still
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: only five foot four inches tall and he doesn't hit
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: ingers anymore.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and he got really skinny, but they still call
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: him Big Al.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 4: It's like we have a really fat guy call him tiny.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: You have to, I think you have to. Uh So, yes,
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: the home run derby tonight. It features our own Ryan Healy.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: We can't say that about Bucky anymore. The legendary Each Ziero,
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: and of course our friend Bucky Jacobson will be performing tonight,
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: and then tomorrow the Mariners will announce the fifty greatest
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: players in franchise history, having assembled the largest majority or
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: a large majority of them, to tip their caps before
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: a Seattle crowd again tonight. And I'm sure, Ashley, even
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: though I think it's a terrific idea to celebrate the
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: fifty years, you had to do it at some point.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: Even though a lot of Mariner fans are frustrated with
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: all of this, there's nothing wrong with the idea of
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: having done this and I'm sure they're going to do
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: it in first class.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: Fashion tomorrow night.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: But something tells me that like five active Mariners are
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: gonna get to end up getting pissed off that they're
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: not on the list, and it ruins any chance we.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: Have a Browley.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 4: Well gosh, I really hope I have that fear, And
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 4: I do think it's funny because obviously people will be like,
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 4: why are the Mariners doing this?
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 3: We need to focus on this season. Well, they plan
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 3: this playing.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 4: This last week. This has been you know, in the
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 4: making for a long long time years and they had
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 4: no idea that the Mariners were gonna disappoint us like
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 4: they did yesterday.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: So you know, we just got to just enjoy it
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: for what it is.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: Just the opposite. When they were putting together the plan
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: for this, they were just sure. They were, you know,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: summarizing the details and convincing John to pay airfare for
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: families and of all fifty players to come in town
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: and enjoy the weekend.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, there thought this year.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: Was, man, it's going to coincide with us being in
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: a Pennant race and all's good and we're five games
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: up in the Did I know they felt that way
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: and instead, I mean, you're as You've got a fan
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: base as frustrated with the active team as any time
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: during my eleven years in Seattle, and now you're going
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: to try to, you know, distract them with a big celebration,
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: and I think you're going to do it successfully. Hell,
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: I just watched Jim Aty sell out the stadium on
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: a Wednesday night for a team on four games under
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: five hundred. I have a feeling they might do it
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: again tonight. And yes, this fan base does love it's nostalgia.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: And so despite the fact that you've never won a
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: championship and never been to a World Series. I would
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: imagine those that are going to be in attendance for
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: Friday night and Saturday night are going to have a ball.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: I really do.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: And I think that they'll end up doing this in
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: first class fashion.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they will, and they always do.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 4: And it's and everybody that goes, even if they're going
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 4: in thinking like, oh why are they doing this, They're
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 4: gonna have the best time.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 3: It's going to be wonderful.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: Uh. Of course, there is a percentage of that fan
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: base that wants nothing to do with it, which maybe
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: we'll talk about a little bit later on in.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: The show, and oh yeah, the best team in the
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: American League is here for the weekend. The Tampa Bay
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: Rays are going to throw their ace Drew rass Mussin
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: at the Mariners tonight. We will counter with a pretty
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: good one of our own. Logan Gilbert will get the
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: call tonight. First pitch is at six forty five ish.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of ceremonies they'll have. It
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: might be a delayed to that. And it is going
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: to be a national game tonight as well, so apparently
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: the home run derby afterwards is going to be televised.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: But I don't think if like me, if you have cable,
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: I don't think you get it. I think you have
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: to have bought the Mariners streaming thing in order to
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: get Yeah, but that might not be accurate, don't hold
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: me to it. But I think that's what I heard
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: in the broadcast earlier in this week. So if I'm
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: if I'm wrong about that, I apologize. I would just say,
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: go find out the truth for yourself. It's kind of
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: like life. Don't let me tell you the meaning of life.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: Go find out the truth for yourself.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: Like that, all right, item number three.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: The NFL preseason is underway, and Cardinals rookie Carson Beck
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: put on a show last night, and the.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: Carts beside the five.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: Touchdown, Carson Beck looks like he is just another day
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: in the office out here. Yeah, you go ahead, fifteen
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: for nineteen and eighty eight passing yards for back last night.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: His very first drive is a pro ninety six yard
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: touchdown drive. He looked terrific.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's really no getting around it.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: But the big story, the headline, was that professional football
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: was on our televisions last night at the Pro Football
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame game in the shadow of Canton, and
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: so we are underway. Carolina won by a final score
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: of thirty three to thirty and a game actually that
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: they're calling the greatest Hall of Fame game of all.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: Time, which really is saying something, isn't it? No, it's okay, No,
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: that's not okay okay?
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: And then this weekend Hall of Fame weekend, and I
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: love Hall of Fame Weekend. I'm more of a baseball fans,
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: you all know, than football, even though I love football,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: slightly more of a baseball fan, But I do love
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: the NFL Hall of Fame Weekend over Major League Baseball's
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame Weekend.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: It's just something about It's just the speeches are just
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: more impassioned. There's something about them. I just love them.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: There's this sliding doors element to this where every single
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: speech you see somebody who is one of the greatest
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: football players you've ever seen, and they will tell you,
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: and you will believe it once you hear their story
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: and their timeline that there was a moment where I
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: might not have been anything if not for this moment
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: or this person that guided me in the right direction.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: It's it's incredible. I love it.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: And so we're going to see a lot of great
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: speeches from a lot of a lot of like no
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: brainer Hall of famers, Drew Brees, Larry Fitzgerald, Luke Keikley,
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: Adam Bennettieri even though he's a kicker, I believe he's
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: a no brainer Hall of Famer. And then Roger Craig
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: long overdue that Roger Craig's getting enshrined into Canton this
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: weekend as well, even though I hate as you hate
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: Ashley that not only is Mike Holger not in the
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, that he's had to watch Sterling Sharp
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: get in one of his team his players last year,
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: and now another one of his players, Roger Craig, get
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: in on the vote that he would have gotten in
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: on and and so it still.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: Sucks for all of us.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: But I do really like the Hall of Fame and
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: uh and it should be quite an event because it's
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: obviously a very difficult place to get into, right, Drew Brees.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: I can't get through the gate. The gate is narrow.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 6: There was no loan.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: What do you want me to do? Just back up?
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: I'm stuck.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: Hard.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't play that exactly where I wanted to
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: play it. I forgot I had to throw to that.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: But anyway, Hall of Fame week and Ashley and and
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: I like it.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I'm angry about coach, but I like it.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I like the the whole thing too.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 4: I just I do wish that they'd separate the coaches
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 4: and and do coaches in g in their own category.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 4: But I don't think that coaches should be going up
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 4: against players. It just I mean, even the idea that
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 4: Bill Belichick didn't make it in on his first ballot
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 4: is weird, right, So it's clearly the way they're doing
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 4: it isn't You're not putting the absolute best people in there.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: And part of it is the limitations that they set
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: for themselves, but that's also part of the battle to
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: get in. But man, they put people through it. I mean,
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: this is it really does bother a lot of Drew
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: Pearson talked about it openly, how depressed he was every
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: year of being told he wasn't Hall of Fame worthy
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: and eventually he got in. So, yeah, there's got to
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: be a better system. I realize it's a hard job
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: trying to come up with that system, Mike Sando will
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: tell you, but it does seem like it's flawed when
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: Mike Holmgren's not in there, when Bill Belichick's not in there,
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: and when you don't have a single coach, when those
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: two guys are eligible and you don't have a single
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: coach getting in to the Hall of Fame this weekend, Yeah,
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: there's something wrong with the rules. Of course, the Hall
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: of Fame game does not technically count as a preseason game.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: The official preseason schedule is going to begin Thursday, August thirteenth,
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: and then the world champion Seahawks will be opening with
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys at home next Saturday.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: In the meantime, we have this. I'm holding out my hands, oh,
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: to show.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 3: You all that you have created in front of you.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: Yes, I'm pointing out to you the beautiful field and
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: the fans that are rolling in for training camp, and
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: the setting that we have. Can you tell that? Can
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: you tell that from my voice that I'm holding out
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: my arms to display all of this wonderfulness to you?
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 3: I can.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 4: It sounds joyous and like your heart and your eyes
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 4: are full of wonder and warmth.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: And warmth is warmth in there. Because I was really
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: shooting for warmth.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 3: I got warmth.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: Good Seahawks training camp continues. It's going to be a
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: lovely Friday out here. Weather's cooperating. We've got the haze
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: that's blown out of town for the most part, so
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: that's good. Tory Horton stopped by our set here earlier
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: this morning and gave me an update on his health.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, I'm feeling great. Body's feeling good.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 10: Everything is feeling, you know, in line and tack. So
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 10: I like the trans great plan and you know, just
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 10: been following that plan. So I feel great out there
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 10: on the field, and you know, just a lot of
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 10: hard work. So yeah, I'm feeling good, ready to go.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: Feeling good and ready to go. And yeah, they're not.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: Gonna make him practice every single day of camp. They're
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna slow play that a little bit. They
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: don't need to fast play it right now. But it
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: sounds like Tory's right on track to be a major
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: contributor this upcoming year. Also, we saw yesterday Nick emon
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: War he was off his scooter and off his crutch.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: Hopefully that's a great indication that he's ahead of schedule
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: and we'll be ready for opening Day. We're gonna ask
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: Greg Bell about that coming up.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: At eight point thirty here.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: This Husky's camp is also underway. It opened just yesterday.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: At least Woodward was on with us, the new voice
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: of the Huskies. She joined us on yesterday's program.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: We talked about the ultimate goal for this team, which
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: is cracking the college football playoff for the first time
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: in the Jedfish era, and I wondered aloud.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: To at least is that something that's in the cards.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 11: I think we saw how good they can be last
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 11: year in glimpses, and it does need to be more
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 11: consistent against the top twenty five teams. That's the bottom line.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 11: I think when you are building a team, one of
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 11: the most important areas to me, it's your offensive and
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 11: defensive line, and it's your quarterback. Right, those are the
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 11: spots that you have to have dudes, and I think
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 11: they do have dudes. I think demand Williams if he
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 11: continues at his rate of improvement. He's twenty years old.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 11: People twenty he can't even legally buy a beer and
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 11: he is a third year quarterback with starting experience, Like
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 11: that's crazy what has been heaped upon on his shoulders
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 11: and the responsibility and the pressure and all of that.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 11: I love their offensive line. They got some youngsters, but
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 11: they're badasses.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 7: Now.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 11: They got to find a way to, you know, have
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 11: skill guys replace Jonah Coleman and Denzel Boston. And Denzel
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 11: Boston's a tough one. Jetfish year three, Ryan Walter's year two.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 12: What a combo.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 6: Let's go.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 11: It's all like aligning for you dubbed this year.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 3: That's that's the hope.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: Jetfish is beginning his third season at the Helm as
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: quarterback returns barely, and folks in the know are raving
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: about this incoming recruiting class. Right now, the goal is
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: certainly the college Football Playoff in twenty twenty six, but
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: we need to see a much better version than what
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: we've seen. You do have to be good enough to
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: avoid that snag against teams you shouldn't lose too, and
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: then you have to be good enough to pull off
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: an upset.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: Against teams that Vegas says you shouldn't beat. That's how
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: that's how good you've got to be to get into
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: the college football Playoff.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: We have not seen that from a Washington Huskies team
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: in the two short years with Jedfish, but perhaps we
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: are ready for that. Breakthrough season begins with the Apple
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: Cup Sunday. That's right, Sunday, yes, right, September sixth. That
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: Husky Stadium. Coog's camp also launched yesterday under brand new,
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: first year thirty five year old head coach Kirby Moore.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: As well. Finally, Little League World Series.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: Snowholmish is playing today at noon. They need a win
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: to keep playing, but they'll have to defeat a team
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: that thumped them fourteen to nothing to start their tournament.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 9: Oh yeah, that's all they needed.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: Everybody knows. Ashley the modern day athlete, whether they're twelve
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: or forty two, needs a chip on their shoulder.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: And that's all that. The ladies from Snowholmish needed to
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: kick some Florida ass today. That's right.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 4: They should have a chip on their shoulder because Florida,
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 4: I mean, snow much is better than they showed up
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 4: in that game one, and they're about ready to show
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 4: them today.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 3: Let's go.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: That's right, they got this, that's right. Vengeance will be ours. Ah.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: Somehow Team Florida lost to Team North Caro. How good
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: is North Carolina's team?
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 4: For goodness sake, this is the thing I mean, and
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 4: I do think I do get like in some of
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 4: these cases, even the Snowmish girls said, there was a
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 4: lot of nerves in that first game. You're on a
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 4: bigger stage than you've ever been in your twelve so
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 4: you know, maybe, ye, maybe Florida relaxed a little bit.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 3: From North Carolina was.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: Like, I don't I'm not going to use it as
• 1:22:38
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  Speaker 4: Locke, okay, And I think that's probably an appropriate way
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  Speaker 1: With a win Today, Snohomish will find out if they're
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  Speaker 1: Oh Friday with Greg bell Man, we're moving him all
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  Speaker 2: Chessboard here these days. It was my fault earlier this week, Greg,
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: it was Tory Horton's fault today, So take it up
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: with him. Yeah, yeah, that Tory Horton tell him to wait.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: Such a jerk, right, that Tory Horton. Yeah, so selfish.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, he's really he is actually a really nice guy.
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  Speaker 6: Family guy. Family.
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  Speaker 2: Here's a great interview.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't realize he'd be as talkative as he was, No,
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: very much. So yeah, all right.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: Greg Bell is with us. Our Seahawks inside are joining
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: us here on Chuck in the Morning. Sorry, so we
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: don't have as much time today as we typically do.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna dive in. It might be the only topic
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: that we get to, and that is Nick emon worry
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: strolling around Seahawks facility. As you wrote yesterday on your
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: X timeline, what did we learn about Nick and his
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: injury yesterday?
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 6: Well, stories at the News dot com with the video
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 6: as well. Everyone see our fans got an alarm seeing
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 6: hard knocks the other night and hit him on a
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 6: scooter and wearing a walking boot on his right ankle.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 6: That got Arthur scoptic surgery last month. But that was
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 6: filmed at the very beginning of camp, right when they
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 6: were reporting till twenty FIFTI ish or so two weeks now,
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 6: and with a recovery that can go four to six weeks,
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 6: you're talking potentially half of his recovery time. So that
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 6: wasn't a present day indicator of what he looked like.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 6: We've seen him walking around signing autographs after practice with
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 6: a soft, low right ankle brace on, kind of where
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 6: maybe at basketball yesterday didn't have anything and he just
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 6: strolled on out there and he was wearing I thought
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 6: he's wearing crocs. They had these white shoes that had
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 6: holes in him and I asked him about crocs. He goes, well,
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 6: they're called canes, and apparently I looked him up, but
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 6: he was on him. He said years ago, before they
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 6: became Big Guy in Austin, Texas developed them. There were
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 6: supposed to be after training shoes that help you recover
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 6: from training. But the point was he was walking around
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 6: with anything on his ankle and looking very fluid strolling.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 6: But you can see it on the news dot com.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 6: The video of it much different than what Tuesday night's
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 6: episode portrayed. So he looks toward trending in the positive direction,
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 6: and that's what Mike McDonald had said at the start
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 6: of the week. His recovery is positive. There's no timeline
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 6: because he doesn't want to put one on him. So
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 6: hauesn't forced him to come back before he should. The
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 6: expectation is he's still going to play in the opener.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 6: We've been saying that since the start. It's what I've
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 6: been told from the start, and now there are physical
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 6: signs and appearances that suggest that might happen.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: We are there some people that had a problem with
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: his footwear. Is there a story there that goes along
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: with this?
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 6: No problem. I was peculiar that he was wearing It
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 6: looked like crocs somebody who had a repaired ankle. I
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 6: thought it was peculiar, so I asked him.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 2: I looked at it.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 4: There was someone on Twitter who got mad about it, like,
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 4: why is he wearing crocs at practice?
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: That's what it was.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, well you know that's a very low common denominate.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 6: Yes he was watching practice, and they were only walking
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 6: through anyway, but yes, he was just watching. I just
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 6: asked him as a curiosity because I thought it was
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 6: interesting that the guy coming off of an ankle injury
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 6: would be wearing crocs, And he said, oh, he's actually Kine.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 6: Then I looked up what Caine's were in there, these
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 6: performance after training shoes that are supposed to aid in recovery.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: So okay, there you go. Okay, now we got we
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: got all the details and we only pissed off one angry,
• 1:27:31
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  Speaker 2: All right, well, before we head into the weekend, can
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: we get an update then on Spoon and the negotiations?
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: Did we get anywhere this week?
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 6: They're working on it. I mean, the dental awarded thirty
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 6: one point one million, aims to go move the goldpost
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 6: back a little more for the Seahawks. And again it
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 6: appears that the agent for both they have the same agent,
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 6: Christian Gonzales with the Patriots and Witherspoon Reggie Johnson and
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 6: the CAA a sports down in Los Angeles, and it
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 6: appears that it's very possible and plausible and should be.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 6: That's our job to play those two off each other,
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 6: to try their leverage higher deals for each So this
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 6: has become a little more to it than the Seahawks
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 6: and John Schneider envision when they embark on this. But
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 6: the intention is that he will be the highest paid
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 6: cornerback in the NFL, which means more than thirty one
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 6: point one win of a year and that it will
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 6: be done before they are done with training camp. And
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 6: they're just a little more extenuating circumstances than in the past.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 2: But no, it.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 6: The one thing again that bears repeating, no hold ins,
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 6: no holdouts. Witherspoon's participating in everything football wise, nothing has
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 6: changed and now it's a process of just getting it done.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: How long is Robbie Hoot's going to be out? What's
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 2: going on here?
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 6: We don't know. He said, we'll have more. McDonald said
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 6: on the start of the week we'd have more for
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 6: sooner than later. Loose was walking around yesterday, but he's
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 6: coming off the neck issue that sidelined him at the
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 6: end of last season. We've been down this road before
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 6: with next in this team and Cam Chancellor and Chris Carson,
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 6: and they'll mess around with that, especially in football players.
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 6: I'd have to collide all the time. So we'll see.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 6: We don't know anything Fittive, but it does sound ominous.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 6: They signed a fullback yesterday, a free agent fullback who
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 6: actually played for Thomas Hammock, the new running backs coach
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 6: at Northern Illinois, which is why he's here. And Brady
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 6: Russell's getting a long, long run at a lot of
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 6: jobs right now, because it is how Russell's really the
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 6: only true fullback to have on the roster until the
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 6: one they signed yesterday.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 2: All right, well, what else?
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: What else we need to know before we head into
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: the weekend. Are the Seahawks Are they looking at the
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: Mariners and thinking to themselves? So, man, we really got
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: to embrace this Jimothy thing, I mean anything like that
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: going on here?
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 6: Well, I thought I could get away with not listening
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 6: or hearing the word Jimothy for this segment.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, you made a big deal out of it. I
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: had people at Jalila Brazar Casino. We're laughing about your
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 2: segment and we're telling me all about it yesterday. So, uh, yeah,
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: you stirred this hornet's nest for yourself here, miss.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 6: Well, No, I didn't stir and they stirred the hornets nest.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 6: Losing nineteen nothing combined the last two games, while worrying
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 6: about Jimothy Knights, it's just exits on the wrong celebl
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 6: it just to me underscores they're a business that's succeeding.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 6: They're putting forty thousand people in the stand while failing
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 6: as a baseball operation. But what they need to be
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 6: doing they're not doing, and they're doing everything else, and
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 6: there's no what is the motivation for the owners to
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 6: spend and improve the team When they're successful as a
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 6: business proposition, they get forty two thousand people to watch
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 6: to form Raccoon on a Wednesday night in our to
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 6: losing teams, it's it's succeeding. It's working. So no, if
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 6: the Seahawks are smart, they're not looking at anything the
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 6: Seahawks are doing right now because the manor is doing
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 6: right now because it's not working.
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  Speaker 2: All right, So I'm not I'm gonna write that down,
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 2: not adopting Jim Athy pr tactics, got it all right?
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate you man.
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  Speaker 9: Thanks.
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 6: There's a fan fastmr at the stadium for fans who
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 6: want to go. It's five o'clock. It's just just another practice,
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 6: but now it's a looming field. More fans can go.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, sounds good. We'll see out here at
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 2: ten o'clock.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 6: Then you will thank you.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: Greg Bell our Seahawks inside. You can follow me at
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• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: have NFL news and notes of really interesting ones to
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: get to a little bit later on in the show.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: But for the next segment, a couple segments, do want
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: to focus on the Mariners their promotions. Uh, and yes,
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: our's up with you question that we asked about an
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: hour ago. I know they're honoring the fifty greatest mariners
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: of all time, and.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: And good for them. Good for them.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: I think that it's gonna be a terrific ceremony, and
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: so I think they're gonna pull it off.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 2: And it's gonna be very impressive.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: I people they're there that are attending, are gonna have
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: some fun with it. That said, we're gonna have a
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: little bit of fun with it as well.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: So I asked earlier, Ashley, and I asked earlier, who's
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: the worst mariner of all time? Who makes the list
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: of the worst Mariner of all time? I don't think
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: they're gonna have a ceremony for him, I'll tell you
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: that much. But who is your worst Mariner of all time?
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  Speaker 2: M Oh, look, he's gonna join us here for a
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 2: little bit. Here. Ashley, the great ad for NASS has
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 2: joined us here at our set here. Way too early
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: for me, way too early for me, guys, way too early,
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 2: yuh early practice. I had to get here. I mean,
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: I'm not on the air till noon, man. I had
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: to get here early and get my parking spot before
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 2: someone thieved it and.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: Somebody feed one of our spots this morning at five
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: o'clock this morning.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 2: It's NFL network nerds, that right. I think Wrap's here somewhere.
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 2: He told me, who's going to be here today, probably
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 2: Rapport himself. I can't see him. He's too short. It's
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 2: all right, slash his tires. He's up there. He's up
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 2: in Schneider's office right now.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: Scolded. I don't know if you were drawn to Ashley
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: and I you had the opportunity to sit down with
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: us since you were coming out early, or were you
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: drawn to our topic. I was listening.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm driving in and first as right as I'm
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 2: pulling in. I hear the I hear Greg Bill God,
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 2: I love the fact you brought up Jimmothy. It was
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 2: so good because nothing like he's a pretty even keeled guy, Greg,
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 2: Greg Bell, the Jimmithy thing just sends him over the edge,
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 2: and for you to bring it up was just a
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 2: classic moment. And now he's just he's driving in right now,
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 2: probably just muttering himself, Jimothy, Jimothy. And then you go
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 2: from top players the worst players. I'm in and I
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 2: wanted to spend a little bit of time on this
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 2: with with Ashley Todavi, but I'll get your opinion on
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 2: it as well, and then we'll get into our text
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 2: and our talkbacks here in a little bit.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: Look, it's amazing that they knew that Jimothy would be
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: a runaway success Wednesday night, that you sold out a
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: stadium on a Wednesday with two losing records by selling
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: a card of a record card.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 2: Wasn't a T shirt. No, wasn't a T shirt or
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 2: a chance to meet Jimothy or Jimmithy or it wasn't
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 2: like that, Like I can see with cool gets, it's
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 2: a trading card for a deformed rak who rides and
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 2: yet they got so they give them some credit that
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 2: they can tap into what it is that people are
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 2: gonna respond to.
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: I'll say that chucked, oh youth.
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, listen, we spent a lot of time on
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 2: our show yesterday talking about this. I think it's it's
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 2: hard for fans to do this when teams aren't doing well.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 2: But under like you have to separate the business side
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 2: from the baseball side or just whatever it's the business
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 2: side from the sports side of any organization, doesn't matter
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 2: what it is. I listen, I threw my own employer
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 2: into the bus, I said with the Kraken. I mean,
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of fans that get pissed off. They
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 2: say they spend too much time worrying about all the
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 2: common thread nights in their theme nights and this and that,
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 2: and look at this great practice years that you can. Yeah,
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 2: they spent, but guess what those sell tickets that brings
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 2: a non traditional fan in. It grows your fan base,
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 2: and they do a terrific job with it. That has
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 2: nothing to do those people that are brilliant there. They
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 2: have nothing to do with the fact that Jason Robertson
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 2: doesn't want to come and play here right, or that,
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 2: or that Shane Wright can't take that next step and
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 2: is getting dangerously close to Jared kellnick levels. I mean,
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 2: that has nothing to do with it. Same with the Mariners.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 2: They do a great job on the business side.
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: Should they stop trying to get people to go to
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: the park for artificial reasons? I mean no, yeah, I
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: mean it's not costing them any money, it's not coming
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: out of the player budget, you know. Should they stop
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: doing that just because it seems silly to die hard
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: baseball fans that just want a great baseball team.
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 2: You can have both. You can have both. It's okay,
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 2: you can have both. Along the way, I think the
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 2: one thing with Silp, like my daughter is twenty nine
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 2: school teacher, he's gonna be married soon, all these things,
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 2: and that made me feel really old. I never even
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 2: met her, but I remember her in college. Yeah, and
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 2: you were here when she was in high school, dude,
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 2: Like that's so, but yeah, it was. She's a die
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 2: hard fan, like and and but she's not the norm
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 2: for that age group, right like she like I got
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 2: a text from her last night, you know, and she's
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 2: going to the game tonight and she's she goes I
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 2: swear if they're not better tonight, I just losing her mind.
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 2: I tell Kevin Martinez this all the time. I said
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 2: that you have to find more of more Brianni's now
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 2: she's also irrational, angry. She gets it all from me,
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 2: and I get it. She grew up a Mariner fan
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 2: in a lot of Mollywop tattoo She does, oh yeah, yeah, Chris,
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 2: and natter on her shoulder. The scary thing is she
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 2: does have more tattoos and the Hell's Angel, So that's fine.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 2: But so she may have a Mollywop tattoo, if such
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 2: a thing exists, God help us. But no, she you know,
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 2: she grew up a Marion fan and a Wazoo fan.
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 2: What what? Of course she's better, But she's like she
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 2: doesn't care, like, hey, they're doing She didn't care about
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 2: the promotions. Yeah she won't. She won't. She might spend
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 2: an inning if she's got friends at the ballpark and
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 2: she's going out in Broland, out in center field, but
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 2: more than likely she's there in section one forty two angry.
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 2: But that's the fan you want. But you can have
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 2: that fan. But to get the other fans to get
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 2: more than twenty thousand. You got to have the provisions.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: And look, I mean, the home run Derby's is gonna
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 1: be fun, but I don't want any.
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 2: Part of it. I really.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, and we got Bucky in it, we got
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: Ryan Healy in it, and I think the Ryan Roland
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: Smith thing is funny. We finally getst thee each year
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: row to a home run derby twenty years too late,
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: twenty five nights. But I think it's a clever idea.
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: It did come together. I was there when they were
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: trying to figure out will anybody.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 2: Want to do this?
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: And they ended up with a really good group and
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: it should be entertaining, But I'm really not interested. And
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: I didn't grow up fifty years of frustration of Mariner baseball.
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: And then Saturday is gonna be great. It's gonna be great.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, you were having a fiftieth year celebration. What
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: else are you going to do. You're gonna bring the
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: top fifty Mariners of all time and they get to
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: tip their cap one more time to the Mariner fans
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: that rooted them. Those are all terrific. It just comes
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: at such a bad odd time.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 2: Well I think someone mentioned it, remember Softy last night
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 2: Softy and Fain I think we're talking about this because
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 2: I hadn't thought of it either, and they were in
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 2: the midst of ranting about yesterday and Tuesday, I guess effectively,
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 2: and they brought up because Julio's like the DJ yes
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 2: so so post game what postgame fireworks? Doesn't matter who's
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 2: light in the firework, right, just do it right. But
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 2: if Julio's in charge of being DJ super Sam out there,
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 2: they better have super Sam. You better have him on
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 2: stand you better have him on standby because what if
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 2: what if Julio has an OH for four day, which
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 2: is more likely than not these days, right, I mean
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 2: he'll he'll have a couple exit velos, a one oh
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 2: four that are foul chuck but don't worry about that,
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 2: and a single that means nothing anyway, he'll have But
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 2: what if he goes OH for four and you get
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 2: knocked out. That's a five to one loss. It's gonna
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 2: be hard, man, It's gonna be hard. Yeah, a step
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 2: closer to the grave. And I do think, I do
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 2: think forty six games to go, you're one hot week
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 2: away from erasing your deficit. So even if a loss tonight.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 1: Even if there's a lost tonight, it's still not over,
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: but it certainly does move.
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 2: You even closer to feeling this team's just not gonna
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 2: get it together, and then you're going to have your
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 2: biggest celebration in fifty years. Yeah, while the maybe arguably
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 2: the team that's best on paper since at least ninety five,
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 2: oh yeah, yeah, even better than two thousand and one
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 2: on paper, Yeah, since nineteen ninety five is five games
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 2: under five hundred. If they lose tonight, yeah, and we're
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 2: gonna have a big party. Well, and you know, unfortunately
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 2: those of the US can't plan for right, like exactly,
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 2: And I'm sure you throw a top if the gathering
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 2: together at the last second. No, I'm assuming. Well, I
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 2: think you mentioned earlier when I was driving in. I
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 2: think it's right. When they were planning this out, there
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 2: was no fiber of their being that thought that they
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 2: would be in this position, right, Like, there's no way, Hey,
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 2: we get to August, we're probably sitting with a pretty
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 2: decent lead, Like we're probably three four up minimum, right,
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 2: we're probably in pretty good shape. People are feeling good. Instead,
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 2: you are where you are, and then in the standings,
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 2: and then you look around and you say, what happened
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 2: to cal what happened? Like, just go through the whole
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 2: list right of all the things, and there's nothing you
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 2: can do. I mean, I think it's gonna be a
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 2: cool celebration. I mean for those of us that grew
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 2: up in the in the area and then you know,
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, I remember the first Mariners team. I remember,
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 2: you know, Rupert Jones, my first one of my first
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 2: baseball He's my first Seattle baseball hero. I'm old enough
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 2: to have others from other teams. Geene Tennis, for some
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 2: random reason with the A's was my guy. I like
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 2: Gene Tennis too, not as much as Salbando. I played
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 2: first base in Cotton. He did the same thing. So
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 2: and that's all we saw. The A's were great back then.
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 2: But yeah, no, I think it's gonna be really fun
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 2: weekend and and marriage will Like anything else they do
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 2: off the field, they'll do it right. It'll be great.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 2: I just is Sean Figgins on the list of these
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 2: is hate efty guys?
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: I want to get let's get to that.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 2: Is he top fifty top fifty good or bad? Definitely bad?
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: But you know We're not Ashley and I are not
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: putting together a top fifty worst no players of all time. Yeah,
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: but if it ends up being that, I have no control.
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: Now I'm just asking for whoop to see doodle. I'm
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: just asking for the worst of all time.
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 2: So who is it?
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: Works Mariner, whatever your criteria is for that, whether it's
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: just somebody that you hate, couldn't stand.
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 2: I got two. I'll give you the first one, which
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 2: is an easy when Sean Figgins, Okay, they paid him
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 2: a lot, he never performed and might have been the
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 2: most surly miserable individual in Seattle sports history. Like like
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 2: was just an absolute ass. And you know, we have
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 2: the cut somewhere. We've been for years. Know his like
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 2: he's eating food. He was. It's early, it's early. And
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 2: just when he was he was chirping at Christian Caple
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 2: was with the p I I think at the time,
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 2: and Chris Crabtree were in there. He just you know,
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 2: he picks on those guys. He just was a he
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 2: was a punk and and just a bad dude right
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 2: and bad baseball player that got overpaid. My off the
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 2: off the grid one if I can do this one.
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 2: Bill Plummer, manager Bill Plummer manager. Oh boy, because you
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 2: you have, for the first time in your history, not
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 2: a playoff team, but a winning record with Jim Lafever,
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 2: and you decide to fire him in after ninety one. Yeah,
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 2: and you bring in in nineteen ninety two Bill Plummer.
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 2: You promote him from within. He was your Triple A manager.
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 2: And now I know that there's a lot of people
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 2: in baseball at the time. Bill Plumber is a rising star.
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 2: He's going to be this, he's going to be that.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 2: He was Johnny Bench's backup, so he knows the game.
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 2: And they went from a good record with the Fever
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 2: and kind of a trending up to this guy. Yeah,
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 2: and it just they had a one hundred some odd
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 2: last season. It was a massive disasters and now they
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 2: get lou out of it. But Bill Plumber, Bill Plumber,
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 2: Bill Plummer. That's an outside the box thought, Ashley, do
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 2: we have some talkbacks? I like to Oh, yes, okay,
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 2: all right, well let's get some of those. I've got mine,
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 2: I know, let's get some talkback.
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 13: Well, off the top of my head, Eric Badard, he
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 13: was supposed to be something great and wasn't and had
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 13: a really crappy attitude, refused to play past five innings.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 13: Comma Scott Spiezio, who came here and sucked and then
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 13: blamed the Mariners for him sucking. And then I was
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 13: never a fan of Jesse Winker. Didn't like that guy,
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 13: didn't like how much other people liked him.
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 2: I think that was a shot at Eric. Already got here, Eric,
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 2: that one's coming up a lot. I'll take him over
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 2: boy him and he was all surly, oh yeah, god,
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 2: I can't well, he.
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 3: Pulled himself out of games. He'd be like, no, I'm done.
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 2: Well, he was nine to five, like it's it's he'd
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 2: look up and wherever we are in the game, if
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 2: he's near one hundred pitches, he's done. Yeah, right, if
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 2: it was today's Eric, Eric Dartelli, probably eighty pitches, right right, exactly,
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 2: seventy sixty five French Canadians you can't trust. All right,
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 2: let's get another one.
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 12: Not real Canadians by far, the worst Mariner on the
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 12: field shown Figgins for how good he thought he was,
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 12: his ego and the person he was, he was junk,
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 12: the worst mariner.
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 4: I'm going to stop it there because I don't want
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 4: to get in trouble for the next part.
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 2: Oh, oh, okay, they insulted someone like in the in
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 2: the involved with the team currently, Oh why do they? Okay,
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 2: feel free to text Chuck and I who I could
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 2: just tell it.
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 3: I mean, I could tell you, but I don't want
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 3: him to berate somebody.
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 2: Oh, I see it was Dan Wilson.
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 3: He was talking about his man him as a managers.
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 2: Player, Dan Wilson. Okay, Dan Wilson is not as bad
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 2: as Bill Plumber people. Ye trust me on that one. Well,
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, I mean this, this guy clearly knows I
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 2: I already called for Dan's job, but he's gonna.
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: Be honored tomorrow. Is one of the fifty greatest.
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 2: Who was the first one he said there before Spiezio
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 2: was Sean.
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 4: It was Sean Figgins, but he called him shown Figgins.
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 4: There was another guy that called him Shoon Figgins and
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 4: was like, I want to call him something else. We've
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 4: gotten a lot for Colton Wong, by the way, a
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 4: lot for Colton Wong.
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: I think that's definitely in play. And that's another one
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: that I thought, Hey, I get that, I don't. I
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: don't think that's a bad signing. I was on board
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: with that, and I could not. He was a four
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 1: war player when he got here from the previous year
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: and showed up and couldn't do anything.
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 2: He was a gold glove defender, showed up, couldn't even
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 2: play defense. Chuck, can you do? Can you can you
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 2: guys do like like if we're an Emerald downs right now,
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 2: you can like you can bet the field or something
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 2: sometimes right, can you do like the Jerry Depoto specially
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 2: hit her field like they can hit left handers and
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 2: or whatever. We could put Lostella, Pollock, Wong, ref Snyder,
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 2: I'm missing somebody else, but those guys. Nathan Bishop has
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 2: a tracker. He was doing a tracker this year with
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 2: ref Snyder versus I think it was Pollock, maybe it
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 2: was Lostella. I don't even know if they I think
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 2: they're the same person. But anyway, he was doing that
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 2: tracker with it. Ressner didn't quite catch them, by the way,
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 2: was just Lostella was just a veteran late ad.
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we we can't put him in that group, but Garber,
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: ref Snyder, Pollock, Wong, Wong, Yeah, can all be put
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 1: in that.
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 2: Feel like we're missing somebody, We're missing one of those.
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 2: It feels like there's like two of those guys every year.
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 2: Who we missing? Yeah, oh uh uh Donovan Solono.
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, gosh, we've got quite a few votes for him.
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 2: That's the field. That's your field. That's like maybe that's like,
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 2: oh god, yeah, he's having some ice cream.
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 6: Leave.
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 3: I have a bat from Jesus Montero. Anyone wanna buy
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 3: it from me?
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 2: I think he did.
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 1: I don't think that is an amazing.
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 2: Item to have. I remember that trade I didn't trade
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 2: was Panada. Yeah. I like that, and don't think anybody
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 2: in baseball did, except the fact that like, well, they're
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 2: trading from depth and they need power. And then all
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 2: of a sudden, jack Z just started drafting everybody that
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 2: could hit a home run, whether they'd even played baseball before,
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 2: and that was his undoing.
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 1: Jack was chasing power, corner outfield power. That's all he
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 1: was drafting for like a decade.
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 2: It was worse or Jackson.
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 1: Why I think jack Z was. Jack Z was actually
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 1: like trending well, and then that Panda trade. He was
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: just chasing power and then he ended up like blowing
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 1: like three drafts in a row. Actually, who is your pick?
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 1: By the way, I don't think I've gotten it.
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 3: It was Sewn Thiggins.
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, absolute. I just think he had the worst attitude.
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 4: Andy was and good and it was really irritating.
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna.
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 1: Throw one mind a little more like technical, okay, because
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 1: I didn't carry the emotion for fifty years that you
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: guys have. So I did a little research, as you
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 1: might expect, and I might have to submit Carlos Silva.
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 4: Oh, you've got some supporters on the text line there
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 4: who had a six four to.
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 2: Six er in his first full season and an eight
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 2: six eer the next year on a one team that
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 2: lost over one hundred games, and then another team that
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 2: fixed itself after he left.
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: Oh god, he had a eight point five WAR for
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 1: his career, which suggests that he was good somewhere else,
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 1: but here he had in a season and a half
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: as a spot as a starter. I guess, Yeah, he
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 1: had a minus three WAR in a season and a
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 1: quarter here as a pitcher.
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 2: So I think maybe he's the worst Mariner of all time. Wow. Well,
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 2: the bad thing about this, I got.
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: Support on that a lot.
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of people as soon as.
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 2: You said as soon as you said that, as long
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 2: I might nod in my head. I'm like, yeah, good call,
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 2: good call. I don't know what this research stuff as
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 2: you talk about, that's not part of our policy. How
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 2: you make me feel in the moment, which is fine
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 2: whatever your criteria are, But wow, this every organization could
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 2: do this little exercise and these guys could we could hear.
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's not like they every year exactly, you could.
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 2: Maybe we'll do that next week. I mean there's a
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 2: whole bunch. I go through the list for that list.
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 2: Although he was like Rookie of the Year or something,
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 2: where wasn't I mean for where he was, for where
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 2: he was drafted, yeah, expect I mean, I mean you
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 2: go through all their high draft Curry though higher than Yeah,
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 2: I mean Aaron Curry, which I hate that because he's
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 2: a good dude and he's turned into a terrific coach
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 2: in the NFL. I think any quarterback they drafted high
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 2: seems to be bad, right, whether it was staffer Dan
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 2: McGuire meyer, those guys were all supposed to be the
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 2: saviors and none of them were.
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 1: And yet there's still a player out there that just
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 1: contributed negative.
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 2: That would be.
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 3: Jamal that guy that's definitely number one on the list.
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 2: Were you thinking of somebody else? It was recency biased,
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 2: but that would be Jamal. I think no. I love
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 2: Softy's tweet the other day was like Brian Wu on
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 2: the home at Home, Cam Chancellor, Brian wo on the Road,
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's that's that's, that's it because my
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 2: least favorite Seahawks and I moved here is I think
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 2: he was. I mean, I think it's easy to maybe
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 2: not the worst player, though probably probably he was a demand.
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 9: He was.
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 2: He was the start of the n A p oh, yeah,
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 2: that was the start of the NP like that's and
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 2: he can and Locker Room Arizona twenty twenty three. He
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 2: was the reason. He and the hole just the poison
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 2: pill that he was. But yeah, that's a good one
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 2: actually because Brian Wu on the Road doesn't pitch the con,
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 2: doesn't like contact, doesn't pitch to contact. Brian wood Holm
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 2: all about contact. So Cam and Jamal is actually a
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 2: great comp I don't think so. You looked at that deep.
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 2: But Brian Wu is on the best fifty Mariners of
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 2: all time. Brian Wu on the Road twenty twenty six
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 2: is on the worst mariners. You don't want to be
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 2: with showing Figgins and Eric Pdard, Bill Plummer, Silva. God,
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 2: that's a great poll.
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 1: I'm sure we have many others. Thank you very much
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 1: for your contributions.
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 2: A little fun with that. Thank you man, that was fun.
• 1:52:33
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• 1:52:35
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