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Chuck in the Morning 7-28 hour 2: 12th Man News with Gregg Bell, ABC's of the Mariners and Charles Cross. · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: It's ball carrying almost the same spot ats last night,
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Speaker 1: same story home run Randy Arose Arena, and that is
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Speaker 1: a home run for Randy. He has hovered him back
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Speaker 1: to back games at both times without his Helmeta.
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Speaker 2: Mariners TV.
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Speaker 3: That's a silver lining if I've ever seen one pulled
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Speaker 3: from the mucket right there.
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Speaker 2: He didn't even know it was a home run.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Randy Rose Arena with a home run, but not
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Speaker 3: nearly enough. Mariners loss to the Texas Rangers yesterday, seven
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Speaker 3: to three.
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Speaker 2: They lose three out.
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Speaker 3: Of four in the Dallas sport Worth area. They are
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Speaker 3: two and a half games back of the Rangers now
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Speaker 3: and gets set to take on the Dodgers in Los
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Speaker 3: Angeles for the next three days. First pitch tonight at
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Speaker 3: seven to ten from Dot Stadium. It'll be Luis Castillo
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Speaker 3: for the Mariners and Justin Robleski, the really little known
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Speaker 3: left handed all star starter for the Los Angeles Dodgers.
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Speaker 3: And so feels very important sitting here, six days away
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Speaker 3: from the Major League Baseball trading deadline, that the Mariners
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Speaker 3: show up in Los Angeles get a winner two at
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Speaker 3: this stage, but that's gonna be a tough battle.
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Speaker 3: did tell you about the Mariners losing to the Rangers
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Speaker 3: seven to three. Storm fever tonight at six point thirty
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Speaker 3: to start the second half of the season for Seattle.
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Speaker 3: And of course it's training camp. That's where we're at
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Speaker 3: covering Seahawks training camp, champ camp, ladies and gentlemen. Yesterday
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Speaker 3: Macintosh was waved by the Seahawks. More on that in
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Speaker 3: a moment with Greg Jidarian pricing to stand out. We're
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Speaker 3: waiting on Devin Witherspoon's a new deal, and so let's
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Speaker 3: find out from Greg Bell, our Seahawks insider, what's.
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Speaker 2: Greg.
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Speaker 3: Greg was gett annoyed that I was bringing up his
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Speaker 3: parking space a lot yesterday, but I am gonna, cause
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Speaker 3: I'm that kind of guy.
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna bring it up one more time.
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Speaker 3: Are you sure it wasn't Anthony Bell's parking space that
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Speaker 3: you're parking.
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Speaker 6: In, Greg, I am sure he had his own spot
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Speaker 6: in the back.
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Speaker 2: Yes, Yeah, you're right, You're good, You're golden.
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Speaker 6: I just don't I don't want people to think I'm
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Speaker 6: entitled or oh, I appreciate we're kid. I appreciate that
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Speaker 6: twenty one years on doing NFL training camps, I appreciate.
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Speaker 2: That you have well earned it.
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Speaker 3: I am I'm totally pulling your leg on all of this,
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Speaker 3: but yeah, that ship sailed there.
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Speaker 7: Everybody thinks you're entitled here, stop worrying about it.
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Speaker 2: I wish I was entitled.
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Speaker 4: Whish I had something to be entitled about all right, well,
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Speaker 4: let's dive into it.
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Speaker 3: Kenny Macintosh, who we've heard about for the last three
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Speaker 3: years and how much do the Seahawks like him? But see,
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Speaker 3: just can't get on the football field. Yesterday he was
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Speaker 3: away from the team. So was it just a feeling
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Speaker 3: that he wasn't want to get healthy enough?
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Speaker 6: That's part of it. And a lot of times when
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Speaker 6: players are injured or on an injury list and they're waved,
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Speaker 6: there is some sort of agreement or settlement that after
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Speaker 6: X amount of weeks he would become a free agent
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Speaker 6: to sign with another team. What makes it if he
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Speaker 6: was if he was on an injured listed that did
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Speaker 6: not count against the roster, he would be waived injured.
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Speaker 6: It'd be a settlement, a lump sum money, and then
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Speaker 6: he'd have an X amount of weeks and get to
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Speaker 6: sign with another team or even potentially back with the Seahawks.
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Speaker 6: But training camp rules are if you're on the puplists
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Speaker 6: being in training camp, you still count against the ninety
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Speaker 6: man roster. So he was still counting against the roster,
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Speaker 6: which is why he's just outright waved. But he's definitely injured.
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Speaker 6: He's twelve months out from his latest very serious knee
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Speaker 6: injury that McDonald Mike McDonald said on Saturday was a
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Speaker 6: really unfortunate and rough injury for him that has him
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Speaker 6: behind and coming back from it. That's why he doesn't
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Speaker 6: have a WAVED injury deesign. He's already counted against the roster.
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Speaker 6: But he's young enough, even though he's had three years
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Speaker 6: now of injuries. He's young enough just in his third
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Speaker 6: NFL season, after they drafted the seventh round twenty twenty
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Speaker 6: three out of Georgia, that he could pursue possibilities elsewhere
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Speaker 6: if he gets healthy and is cleared medically to do that.
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Speaker 6: That's a big af of course, because that's the whole
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Speaker 6: reason he was in this situation to begin with. It
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Speaker 6: also speaks too, they want to give a longer look
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Speaker 6: to Emmanuel Wilson, the Green Bay running back. They signed
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Speaker 6: a Packers five hundred yard rusher, and they signed him
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Speaker 6: in the off season, pretty much an overlooked deal because
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Speaker 6: of the drafting of Jedari and Price. But Wilson, for
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Speaker 6: the first time yesterday was running first team reps. It's
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Speaker 6: the first time I noticed him in OTA's mini camp
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Speaker 6: or training camp. Through three days that he was with
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Speaker 6: the Ones. We'll see, but they've obviously moved on to
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Speaker 6: other options, including their rookie first round pick who had
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Speaker 6: his best day yet, Jedi and Price yesterday, George Alani
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Speaker 6: who's still alternating with Price at the Ones, and now
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Speaker 6: Emmanuel Wilson moving up too.
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Speaker 7: There's been a lot of chatter about Sharbonay being out
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Speaker 7: or ahead of schedule. If you had to play KP,
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Speaker 7: you know, closest to the pin, which I never understood
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Speaker 7: why that was a CP, but they call it KP.
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Speaker 7: But well, if you had to pick the date down
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Speaker 7: to the game, what week do you think Sharboney is
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Speaker 7: active in carrying the football for the Seahawks.
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Speaker 6: Crabbaly October maybe mid October. Yes, he surprised everybody, Hugh
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Speaker 6: when he was out on the field during many camps
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Speaker 6: and doing hurdler type stretching and jogging and high stepping.
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Speaker 6: But he's still didn't have the surgery until February, and
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Speaker 6: it's reconstructive knee surgery. Even when he comes back to
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Speaker 6: the field, they're not just going to throw him into
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Speaker 6: a game. Is going to be a multi week maybe
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Speaker 6: up to a month of ramping up processing to make
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Speaker 6: sure the knee is fine and reconstructed, can handle lateral
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Speaker 6: movement and all the things that a running back has
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Speaker 6: to do. I think best case is October. That's supposition
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Speaker 6: on my part. McDonald keeps saying it is anybody who's
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Speaker 6: going to blow all the estimates of recovery, it's going
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Speaker 6: to be this guy for how fiendishly hard he works.
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Speaker 6: But eight to twelve months is typical. February is the
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Speaker 6: second month of the year. October is the tenth. That
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Speaker 6: would be the eighth month on the short side.
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Speaker 3: So if Jadarian Price is the greyhound and Halani is
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Speaker 3: the mechanical rabbit, how far down the track before the
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Speaker 3: greyhound catches up?
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Speaker 6: I think it's close. If he proves he can be
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Speaker 6: in the past game, if he can catch in pass block,
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Speaker 6: he'll be the start. He's going to be the starter
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Speaker 6: week one. It's just when he takes over that role
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Speaker 6: from Halani is it's when he masters the pass game.
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Speaker 6: I mentioned Thomas Hammock, the new running backs coach, is
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Speaker 6: just throwing football after football after him every day. Talk
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Speaker 6: about Price, all the running backs too, but they are
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Speaker 6: making a concerted effort to get Price into the pass game.
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Speaker 6: I mentioned yesterday, he's the only one I've noticed whose
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Speaker 6: scrimmages on the first, the second, and the third team offenses,
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Speaker 6: he catches passes from all the quarterbacks and then eleven
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Speaker 6: on eleven scrimmages, they split him out wide, they send
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Speaker 6: him outside. Yesterday they had him on a wheel route
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Speaker 6: and he made a tremendous move on Ernest Jones that
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Speaker 6: after practice. Jones, so that was hellum a move. This
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Speaker 6: guy's good man, He's going to help us. A real story.
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Speaker 6: That was my lead to my story from yesterday's practice
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Speaker 6: about Ernest Jones praising a rookie in his third training
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Speaker 6: for camp practice in the NFL. He has elusiveness, he
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Speaker 6: has open field ability. He seems natural in the outside zone.
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Speaker 6: He said that's his thing. Of all the plays and
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Speaker 6: schemes that Notre Dame ran, that's the one he enjoyed
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Speaker 6: and thought he fits his skills the most. So now
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Speaker 6: it's just a past game, and I think it's just
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Speaker 6: a matter of weeks not months for that.
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Speaker 3: Not exactly Chubby either. He didn't let himself go this offseason.
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Speaker 6: Judorian Price, no not cutting candy and hohos that guy
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Speaker 6: he looks great.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, let's stay on that topic.
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Speaker 2: I agree he looks great.
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Speaker 7: And of course we're not talking by normal standards a
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Speaker 7: guy walking around them all. We're talking about running back
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Speaker 7: in the NFL standards, okay, And so I think his
9:35
Speaker 7: upper body impresses me. There was a lot of question
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Speaker 7: about how he weighed in ten pounds under his listed
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Speaker 7: weight at the combine. Greg, I don't know, man. When
9:49
Speaker 7: I first laid eyes on him, they were wearing shorts yesterday,
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Speaker 7: I thought, WHOA, those are some skinny legs. They're not
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Speaker 7: skinny legs for a wide receiver, but they're skinny red
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Speaker 7: legs for running back. He only had, I believe, seven
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Speaker 7: touches a game because of Jeremiah Love at Notre Dame.
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Speaker 7: So I have durability concerns about him precisely for that reason.
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Speaker 2: I think.
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Speaker 7: I think he's undersized and and he's never really had
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Speaker 7: to have a you know, fifteen game, fifteen touch of
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Speaker 7: game type of a load, which I which I would
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Speaker 7: hope he could be able to withstand, given you at
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Speaker 7: least the first interesting a couple of months.
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Speaker 2: How about that as our concern? I don't don't.
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Speaker 4: I don't think that ass.
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Speaker 7: I think he needs more lead, Greg Bell, do you
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Speaker 7: do you know of any concern about the weight and
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Speaker 7: part of the seat.
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Speaker 6: Camp Well, they say, the scouts say, and Price himself
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Speaker 6: said that he overtrained in the pre combine process and
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Speaker 6: lost weight doing it running and sprinting and focus on
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Speaker 6: him forty times and all of that. I don't know
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Speaker 6: if that's an albabi or a reason, but it's the
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Speaker 6: double edged sword to what you just mentioned. He wasn't
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Speaker 6: the primary back at Notre Dame. Jeremiah Love, the third
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Speaker 6: pick in the draft by the Cardinals was, and therefore
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Speaker 6: they don't know. There's a tantalizing ceiling to him, but
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Speaker 6: there's also a big unknown and durability is one of them.
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Speaker 6: And he didn't have that role. He didn't catch passes
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Speaker 6: and pass block on third down at Notre Dame. Loved it.
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Speaker 6: He Price was returning kickoffs and playing sparingly, as you said,
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Speaker 6: seven touches a game at times. So that is also
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Speaker 6: the perils of the position. You and I know, we
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Speaker 6: know that running back is the most attruated position in
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Speaker 6: the sport. It's the one with the lowest shortest career span.
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Speaker 6: As Chris Carson about that, there is a lot of unknowns.
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Speaker 6: There was a high ceiling. It's almost not quite high risk,
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Speaker 6: but high unknown potential, high reward with this first round pick,
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Speaker 6: the fact that he was picked in the first round,
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Speaker 6: the Seahawks aren't going to put him on the sideline.
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Speaker 6: He is going to be the lead running back to
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Speaker 6: get the opportunities to see if he is durable.
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Speaker 4: Our Seahawks inside of Greg Bell is with us.
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Speaker 3: and time for a training camp and for the entire
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Speaker 3: calendar year, we get him every day at seven oh
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Speaker 3: five during the football season, most every day. And there's
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Speaker 3: certainly a lot to discuss here at training camp day
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Speaker 3: number three in the books, I did notice in your
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Speaker 3: most recent write up about day three that how the
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Speaker 3: practice ended, and feel free to weigh in on that,
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Speaker 3: But it involved Jalen Milroe. And so what I'm really
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Speaker 3: curious about is, you know, he was a really interesting
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Speaker 3: subject a year ago at this time, but Sam Darnold
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Speaker 3: just kind of took over the quarterback room from an
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Speaker 3: early point and then led them to a Super Bowl,
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Speaker 3: and so it just didn't seem like there was any
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Speaker 3: room for air for any kind of trick play attempt
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Speaker 3: again with Jaln Milroe to try to change things up
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Speaker 3: on the football field. So I guess long way of asking,
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Speaker 3: what is the vision for Jalen Milroe's future.
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Speaker 6: Well long term, and they have quieted down quite a bit.
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Speaker 6: The talk of human being a Taysom Hill type, run
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Speaker 6: the ball, plug him in in special situations. That fumble
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Speaker 6: against Tampa Bay at the beginning of October with a
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Speaker 6: third game he appeared in in the last game spooked
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Speaker 6: Klinck Kubiak and Mike McDonald and they said, well, we
13:40
Speaker 6: can't have this carnival act. If he's just going to
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Speaker 6: turn the ball over, we're not doing this anymore. In fact,
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Speaker 6: after that game in early October, Milroe wasn't even active
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Speaker 6: for the rest of the season, not at once. So
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Speaker 6: they shelved that pretty quickly after just three snaps. And
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Speaker 6: it doesn't look like they're going to have a package
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Speaker 6: for him. I haven't seen him come in running into
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Speaker 6: the first team huddle to do anything, none of that.
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Speaker 6: He is not an NFL quarterback right now, but he
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Speaker 6: doesn't have to be when you draft a quarterback, except
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Speaker 6: for Russell Wilson, who was quite an exception. If you
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Speaker 6: draft a quarterback in second day, he's a project. And
14:16
Speaker 6: if you have an established starter who just took you
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Speaker 6: to Super Bowl, you don't need that third round pick
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Speaker 6: from last year to be an NFL ready quarterback. You
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Speaker 6: would like him to be that by year three or four,
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Speaker 6: the end of his rookie deal. He's not there yet.
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Speaker 6: And his accuracy of his throwing and if they're not
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Speaker 6: going to use him as a run specialist in the
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Speaker 6: starting offense, he is just there break glass in case
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Speaker 6: of emergency. And that is because Drew Locke is still here.
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Speaker 6: So the veteran Locke, who has starting experience, of course
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Speaker 6: with Denver in Finis hitting with the Seahawks and winning
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Speaker 6: a Monday night game inst the Eagles a couple of
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Speaker 6: years ago, is obviously their option if anything happens to Darnold,
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Speaker 6: and that leaves Milrow a distant third. I think they're
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Speaker 6: a little I don't want to use the word concerned,
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Speaker 6: but they definitely notice his accuracy issues and that's something
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Speaker 6: that now he's got another offensive coordinator. His fourth and
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Speaker 6: four years counting Alabama to work with on that. There's
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Speaker 6: a road to hoe here for him.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, Greg Bill with us and I think it's accuracy
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Speaker 7: issues and kind of processing. You see a lot of
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Speaker 7: checkdowns and you don't see a lot of completions down
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Speaker 7: the field. Greg, there there were some stories coming out
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Speaker 7: from Saturday that maybe maybe it surprised some but nicest
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Speaker 7: seed number fifteen Tory Horton out on the field on Saturday,
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Speaker 7: but yesterday he's nowhere to be seen. I didn't even
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Speaker 7: see him walking on the sideline. He certainly didn't practice.
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Speaker 7: What do we know about the off injured Tory Horton.
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Speaker 6: Today, Yeah, you's it's part of their pacing plan for
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Speaker 6: Horton coming back from the shin injury from November. Two
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Speaker 6: practices on one off apparently wouldn't surprise me. If he's
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Speaker 6: off again today, because then the team is off tomorrow,
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Speaker 6: that would give him three days off. It's still July.
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Speaker 6: It did surprise me he wasn't on the pupp list
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Speaker 6: to begin training camp. I thought he would be because
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Speaker 6: we didn't see him on the field at all during
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Speaker 6: the spring, So in that lens, it's not too surprising
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Speaker 6: that he would get a day off three days in.
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Speaker 6: He did come out late in practice in tennis shoes
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Speaker 6: to watch, but it's a slow ramp up for him
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Speaker 6: because he hasn't been on the field at all since November.
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Speaker 4: All right, man, what do you got for ten o'clock today?
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Speaker 2: Just reacting?
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Speaker 6: No more than that. And the Anthony Bell is fascinating
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Speaker 6: to me. He is in Nick even Warrie's role. He's
16:46
Speaker 6: not eating Nick even Worri. But right now he's got
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Speaker 6: the job on the starting offense. It's being the sam
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Speaker 6: linebacker moving up from safety when they go extra defensive backs.
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Speaker 6: It's a second chance for him. They tried to sneak
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Speaker 6: him through waivers getting back on the practice squad nine
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Speaker 6: different times LUs year, and on the ninth time and
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Speaker 6: late actually January first, Carolina Panthers claimed him. So he
17:05
Speaker 6: watched the Super Bowl from Seattle, his home, while his
17:09
Speaker 6: teammates he played fourteen games with that the Seahawks were
17:12
Speaker 6: down winning the Super Bowl in Santa Clara. The Seahawks
17:16
Speaker 6: voted him to get a Super Bowl ring. That's how
17:18
Speaker 6: much they liked him. Well and behold, the Panthers waived
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Speaker 6: him because he asked him to cut him so that
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Speaker 6: he could sign back with the Seahawks, and he didn't
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Speaker 6: hear he is in the starting defense. You'll hear from
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Speaker 6: him at ten twenty or soven eleven o'clock. Sat down
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Speaker 6: with Derek Hall. Really good talk about his mother. He
17:36
Speaker 6: was born, of course, prematurely, two pounds nine ounces at
17:40
Speaker 6: just twenty three weeks, given no chance to live, and
17:43
Speaker 6: now he's a forty six million dollars Super Bowl champion linebacker.
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Speaker 6: He bought his mom a house. He paused, and I
17:49
Speaker 6: thought he might begin to break down a little bit
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Speaker 6: emotionally when I asked him about how important it was
17:55
Speaker 6: to him to take care of his mom, who took
17:56
Speaker 6: care of him. You'll hear from that at eleven o'clock.
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Speaker 2: Great stuff. All right, well, we'll see you here in
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Speaker 2: a couple hours.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, sure, we thanks guys.
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Speaker 3: Okay, Greg Bell, our Seahawks insid of joining us, so
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Speaker 3: right here on Chuck in the Morning Sports Radio ninety
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Speaker 3: three point three KJRFM. We'll continue with our coverage of
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Speaker 3: training camp, and of course we will slip in some
18:16
Speaker 3: of our dailies and weeklies in regards to the Mariners.
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Speaker 3: Seems like a good time for ABC's of the MS.
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Speaker 3: It comes your way. Next Sports Radio ninety three point
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Speaker 3: three KJRFM, Flory and the Offense, which I got talk
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Speaker 3: of camp we're gonna get to and Charles Cross will
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Speaker 3: be joining us here at our set at seven forty
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Speaker 3: five here today.
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Speaker 2: Good morning. It is Chuck and Hugh with you here.
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Speaker 3: From Seahawks training camp, date number four, getting ready to
18:41
Speaker 3: get started our second day of coverage here at KJR
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Speaker 3: and almost all Seahawks talk here today, but we do
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Speaker 3: Mariners morning after. We also on a daily basis, do
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Speaker 3: the ABC's of the MS, and we will not skip that.
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Speaker 4: I don't care if you, you know, gives me.
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Speaker 3: A swirly in the bathroom in there, I'm gonna come
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Speaker 3: out here with toilet hair.
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Speaker 4: Now stop with that. There's no bit there. I have
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Speaker 4: not one time. You're right, said said like like, we
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Speaker 4: got to talk less MS.
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Speaker 2: I'm good with MS.
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Speaker 4: I understand where we are.
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Speaker 3: We got M talk man, we got a little bit
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Speaker 3: M yeah yeah uh, and I got the ABC ZMS
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Speaker 3: we left off of the letter.
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Speaker 6: Jay.
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Speaker 3: I've already discussed this a little bit for a little
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Speaker 3: bit earlier in the show, but I think it's worth
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Speaker 3: repeating because I think it really is where the team
19:31
Speaker 3: is right now the large scale of a baseball year.
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Speaker 3: And here we are six days away from the Major
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Speaker 3: League Baseball trading deadline, and the team is playing not
19:45
Speaker 3: just not well. Maybe you could even say they're playing poorly, horribly,
19:48
Speaker 3: whatever adjective that you want to use to describe it.
19:51
Speaker 3: And so as we get the jay jay is for jail,
19:54
Speaker 3: they are sort of in trade deadline jail right now,
19:58
Speaker 3: because I think they were planning on this entire year
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Speaker 3: to be aggressive buyers at this point. This has been
20:06
Speaker 3: the idea of a championship push, championship season. They have
20:10
Speaker 3: felt all off season, all spring training that this was
20:14
Speaker 3: going to be a World Series contender. And here we
20:17
Speaker 3: set three games under five hundred, two and a half
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Speaker 3: games out of first place, losers of eleven of their
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Speaker 3: last sixteen can't get it straight four and six since
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Speaker 3: the All Star Break against some rather subpar competition.
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Speaker 2: Based on what's coming up.
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Speaker 3: Here soon, and I still think, per our conversation earlier, Hugh,
20:37
Speaker 3: that they are in a mindset to buy being just
20:39
Speaker 3: two and a half games out. They've got too much
20:42
Speaker 3: invested in this team this season, but they also are
20:47
Speaker 3: getting ready to face the Dodgers the next three days
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Speaker 3: and then three more tough games before the actual trade
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Speaker 3: deadline hits. And I think they're a little bit in jail,
20:59
Speaker 3: not exactly knowing you know, how to how to do
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Speaker 3: this now because it's looking weaker than at any point.
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Speaker 3: And if you end up having a bad week this week,
21:10
Speaker 3: how aggressive are you going to be between now and
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Speaker 3: the trading deadline on adding to this baseball team and
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Speaker 3: a market where the cell it's a seller's market.
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Speaker 2: They're just there.
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Speaker 3: There just are enough teams that are selling right now
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Speaker 3: at the trading deadline to provide some sort of robust
21:29
Speaker 3: market to try to get a hitter and a pitcher.
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Speaker 2: Do you feel like.
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Speaker 7: This is a less uh less of a buyer's market
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Speaker 7: than than in the last couple of years, because they've
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Speaker 7: ever they've been aggressive, maybe ever so so that that's
21:42
Speaker 7: obviously a vital component toll. Yeah, but you think of
21:46
Speaker 7: the the optics not just for US fans, but inside
21:51
Speaker 7: the clubhouse where Jerry you know, uh, you know he
21:54
Speaker 7: went after Naylor last year ahenne ouh, you know, because
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Speaker 7: a couple of years back, like Rose Arena two years ago,
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Speaker 7: so there's been every year they've made a significant acquisition.
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Speaker 2: If they don't this year.
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Speaker 7: You know, at there, i'd be concerned about the messaging
22:18
Speaker 7: coming from the front office.
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Speaker 3: Well again, I still think right now they're of a
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Speaker 3: mind but I think that they might where you might
22:28
Speaker 3: you might have wanted to make a trade today.
22:31
Speaker 2: You might be of the.
22:32
Speaker 3: Mindset of, let's see what happens in this Dodgers series,
22:36
Speaker 3: or let's see what happens over the next five or
22:38
Speaker 3: six games. It could dictate how aggressive we're going to
22:41
Speaker 3: be here at the trading deadline. Not to mention, the
22:44
Speaker 3: market's dried up in the last forty eight hours. Casey
22:47
Speaker 3: Schmidt from San Francisco was supposedly viable.
22:50
Speaker 4: He's now injured.
22:52
Speaker 3: Spencer Steer is going to miss significant time with a
22:54
Speaker 3: wrist injury, so he's off. He's off the market. We've
22:58
Speaker 3: had three major injury. He's here in the last forty
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Speaker 3: eight hours to possible candidates to trade for. So I
23:04
Speaker 3: don't know, I don't know where their mind's at right now.
23:07
Speaker 3: Feels to me like, you know, they're in jail, not prison, Yeah,
23:11
Speaker 3: you know, but they're in jail right now and wondering, Hey,
23:15
Speaker 3: is anybody gonna post bail for me, you know, right,
23:18
Speaker 3: they need somebody to post bail in this Dodger series.
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Speaker 7: What about so if you said the whist list, a
23:27
Speaker 7: guy who can hit left handed pitching would be number one,
23:30
Speaker 7: number one, and then bullpen where you Yeah, now, what.
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Speaker 2: About Well, I think they could. I think they could.
23:38
Speaker 3: Add I don't think it's as pressing a need as
23:41
Speaker 3: because if you are in it and you're going down
23:44
Speaker 3: the playoffs, I mean you could potentially have Anderson and
23:47
Speaker 3: Sloan and then whatever starter doesn't make your rotation for
23:52
Speaker 3: the playoffs, but you got to get into the playoffs first. Yeah,
23:55
Speaker 3: if they added a relief pitcher, yes, we could use
23:58
Speaker 3: a relief pitcher, we could use an extra arm. But
24:01
Speaker 3: the hitter is the most important thing.
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Speaker 2: Hitter's the most important thing.
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Speaker 7: Now obviously unless you're getting a d h he's going
24:09
Speaker 7: to be a field player, you know, just kind of
24:15
Speaker 7: fiddling through with the saber metrics.
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Speaker 2: When when I see the Mariners are either.
24:20
Speaker 7: First or lasting something, he gets my attention and and
24:24
Speaker 7: and don't ask me to explain the details of how
24:28
Speaker 7: they come up with this runs above average as attributed
24:34
Speaker 7: to defensive range. Okay, I couldn't give you the nuanced
24:39
Speaker 7: details of that, but some people out there have endeavored
24:43
Speaker 7: to do this and I don't know if GPS tracking
24:45
Speaker 7: or what have you, and they have a numeric calculation
24:49
Speaker 7: the range in the in the major leagues is from
24:52
Speaker 7: thirty five is the best and negative twenty four is
24:55
Speaker 7: the worst. And the Mariners are negative twenty four. They
24:58
Speaker 7: are the worst according to this that they have the
25:02
Speaker 7: worst defensive range. And then those same people endeavor to say, Okay,
25:07
Speaker 7: how good are the arms out in the field, and
25:11
Speaker 7: they say the Mariners are twenty first out of thirty teams.
25:14
Speaker 7: So we're talking about a very poor defensive team. And
25:19
Speaker 7: so as we're thinking about acquiring a bat right that
25:24
Speaker 7: can hit left handed pitching, at least some consideration has
25:28
Speaker 7: got to be considered. Well, Candy also upgrade us. Can
25:31
Speaker 7: we put Randy at DH and find a left fielder
25:35
Speaker 7: that can hit left hand handed pitching and also upgrade
25:40
Speaker 7: us in left field?
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Speaker 2: Right?
25:41
Speaker 3: I agree, but then kin Zone has to play right field,
25:44
Speaker 3: and that's a downgrade from who you would have at
25:47
Speaker 3: rallyan Roblaze. Donovan is coming off the injury list and
25:50
Speaker 3: he has to play somewhere because he played third base,
25:53
Speaker 3: and if so, if he's a third he's even worse
25:55
Speaker 3: than JP defensively.
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Speaker 4: So I don't disagree with you, but that's what I'm saying.
25:59
Speaker 3: It's going to be a little bit difficult considering how
26:01
Speaker 3: cold the market is to thread these needles, and I
26:04
Speaker 3: wonder just how aggressive of a mindset that they have.
26:07
Speaker 3: My guess is they're going to play a few games
26:09
Speaker 3: here before they actually leap. I think they still will,
26:13
Speaker 3: but I think that they might, you know, wait a
26:15
Speaker 3: few days just to see where the team's at after
26:18
Speaker 3: this Dodger series. Ks For Kirby, I know he was
26:21
Speaker 3: rough yesterday. He's been terrific. I mean, four great starts,
26:25
Speaker 3: six good to great starts in a row. He just
26:28
Speaker 3: didn't have it in a really important period yesterday, a
26:32
Speaker 3: really big game for the team yesterday. But I think
26:36
Speaker 3: he's fine, and I don't think he's going to be
26:38
Speaker 3: traded at the trading deadline. And then finally, elis for
26:41
Speaker 3: Los Angeles. The Dodgers have the best record in Major
26:44
Speaker 3: League Baseball. They're the best team in Major League Baseball,
26:46
Speaker 3: but they are not playing their best right now. They
26:49
Speaker 3: have gone eight to eight in their last sixteen. They
26:53
Speaker 3: have Justin Robleski starting tonight and he was an All
26:56
Speaker 3: Star for them this year. But we're going to miss
26:59
Speaker 3: all all of their big arms. I mean most of
27:01
Speaker 3: them are on the injury list, Like Otani's not available,
27:04
Speaker 3: Glass now is not available, Snell's not available, We're missing Yamamoto.
27:09
Speaker 3: I mean, if you're gonna pick a window to face
27:11
Speaker 3: the Dodgers, it would be Robleski, Lower and uh and Sasaki.
27:17
Speaker 3: And that's who we have over the next three games.
27:19
Speaker 3: So we're not catching the Dodgers that their healthiest. Oh,
27:23
Speaker 3: Tani's got a knee issue issue. Will Smith's on the
27:26
Speaker 3: injury list, and they're pitching is ravaged with injuries. So
27:30
Speaker 3: if we are if there's a good time to catch
27:32
Speaker 3: the Dodgers, it.
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Speaker 4: Probably is in the next three days.
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Speaker 3: All right, Charles Cross gonna join us next Sports Radio
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Speaker 3: ninety three point three kJ R f M.
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Speaker 4: Just handle Is that right?
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Speaker 6: Is it?
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Speaker 2: Alright? I dud okay? How about me? Okay? All right?
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Speaker 2: I didn't know if there was a chuck thing that
27:51
Speaker 2: I'm getting in the way of.
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Speaker 4: Uh, well, great to see you, man. How are things.
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Speaker 4: How's camp going?
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Speaker 2: So Far's going great? So far? Just happy to be backing,
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Speaker 2: to be back to practice.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, back with the guys, excited for the for the
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Speaker 8: upcoming season, upcoming next days.
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Speaker 3: We just had Abe on yesterday on the program. He
28:11
Speaker 3: was sitting right there twenty four hours ago. So give me,
28:14
Speaker 3: give me, give me something on Abe. Give me, give
28:17
Speaker 3: me a little dirt on Abe here.
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Speaker 8: I have no dirt on a He was a great teammate.
28:22
Speaker 8: He's a very smart individual. He recently just told me
28:27
Speaker 8: about this book I should check out. Yeah, So I'm
28:30
Speaker 8: gonna tick that out in the next couple of days
28:31
Speaker 8: and see how.
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Speaker 2: I like it. What's the book? Winning?
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Speaker 6: Yeah?
28:36
Speaker 7: Like Tim Rover is like a self help like a
28:39
Speaker 7: competitive mindset type thing.
28:41
Speaker 2: Mentality. I feel like he's more more about mentality than anything.
28:45
Speaker 3: Mm hm hmm.
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Speaker 7: What and is that advantage you're looking to gain? Like, like,
28:51
Speaker 7: like take us into the mind of you an athlete,
28:53
Speaker 7: professional athlete, about where your headspeece and is and and
28:57
Speaker 7: and what's the ideal place you can be and with
29:00
Speaker 7: regard to winning and and and your approach.
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Speaker 8: I fight from from just from the jumpers, just like
29:05
Speaker 8: a mindset. So getting yourself in the right mindset, speaking
29:10
Speaker 8: yourself up talking positive to yourself, believing yourself.
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Speaker 2: I fel that's the way I'll go about the majority.
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Speaker 3: Charles Cross is with us right here on Chuck in
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Speaker 3: the Morning Sports Radio ninety three point three k j
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Speaker 3: R FM. Training camp coverage continues. Uh, you played it
29:25
Speaker 3: to Mississippi State. Did you ever have practices like this?
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Speaker 7: Oh?
29:29
Speaker 2: Weather like this?
29:30
Speaker 7: It was probably a little bit hotter, Yeah, I think so,
29:35
Speaker 7: got a lake breeze coming across here. Well, it's gonna
29:40
Speaker 7: it's gonna get hot in in uh in December when
29:45
Speaker 7: you guys play the Rams. And when I heard that
29:47
Speaker 7: the Rams acquired Miles Garrett, the very first person the
29:52
Speaker 7: next synapse in my brain was Charles Cross. Because Miles
29:57
Speaker 7: Garrett had eighty four point two percent of his snaps
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Speaker 7: on some version of right edge, which is across from you.
30:04
Speaker 7: What what went through your mind when you first heard
30:07
Speaker 7: Miles Garrett has come to the Rams.
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Speaker 3: Oh?
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Speaker 8: For me, like, I'm just worried about myself, Like no
30:12
Speaker 8: matter what they do, the matter what defense through, Like
30:14
Speaker 8: I have to I have to pray myself every day
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Speaker 8: and be a professional. So we're not going to get
30:18
Speaker 8: Miles Garrett or somebody else that doesn't matter, like, same
30:21
Speaker 8: preparation each week.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Gray was like bringing on. Did you tell Gray like, hey,
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Speaker 3: chill out?
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Speaker 2: Nah?
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Speaker 8: I mean like yeah, like that we have and you
30:32
Speaker 8: know it's not gonna go away.
30:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's that?
30:35
Speaker 3: Like? I mean, for a long time before you got here,
30:39
Speaker 3: it was probably the biggest issue when we talking about
30:43
Speaker 3: the Seahawks the offensive line fans just every year in
30:46
Speaker 3: sports talk radio, we gotta fix the offensive line. That's
30:50
Speaker 3: not happening anymore. We're not having that conversation anymore. And
30:54
Speaker 3: yet you guys, as a group, we're together for the
30:56
Speaker 3: first time a year ago this five and you're all
31:00
Speaker 3: back together as a starting group here in year number two.
31:03
Speaker 3: How much better will you be from a cohesion standpoint
31:07
Speaker 3: from even a year ago in your estimation.
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Speaker 8: I feel like this is this a rare occasion just
31:12
Speaker 8: having the same guys in the same room just start
31:14
Speaker 8: off with.
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Speaker 2: But I feel like it just you know, it.
31:17
Speaker 8: Gives us an edge to to be able to have
31:20
Speaker 8: have greater continuity now and just continue to build on
31:22
Speaker 8: it from last year to this year going to training
31:24
Speaker 8: camp into the season. So I feel this is a
31:26
Speaker 8: great opportunity for let's just taking nage.
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Speaker 2: Of it Charles Cross with us.
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Speaker 7: Now the club showed you their faith in you and
31:33
Speaker 7: your how they believe in it, and with the with
31:36
Speaker 7: the unbelievable pay check that you got and the rays
31:39
Speaker 7: you got.
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Speaker 2: Uh.
31:41
Speaker 7: From a personal standpoint, are you like, hey, okay, I
31:43
Speaker 7: want to make Pro Bowl now, I want to make
31:45
Speaker 7: all Pro Is that is that something that guides you
31:48
Speaker 7: that to be able to have those those accolades to
31:51
Speaker 7: stamp on that is? Is that part of your thinking
31:55
Speaker 7: or or just how do you approach that?
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Speaker 8: Of course I want exactly at the end of the day,
32:01
Speaker 8: but just thinking a big picture, like I want to
32:04
Speaker 8: win a lot of games here, want to continue to
32:06
Speaker 8: compete at a high level as a team. So I
32:08
Speaker 8: feel like the team goes in a sense always the
32:11
Speaker 8: individual goes for me.
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Speaker 3: You stonewall Miles Garrett a couple of times, and I
32:15
Speaker 3: think you're gonna get those accolades.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely.
32:20
Speaker 3: Talk about Gray and you together on that left side. Uh,
32:25
Speaker 3: how how quickly in your estimation it came together and
32:29
Speaker 3: and and how you guys became kind of a pair
32:32
Speaker 3: over there on the left side.
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Speaker 8: To be honest, I fight when when he first got here,
32:37
Speaker 8: just getting getting to know him, right, sitting inside each
32:39
Speaker 8: other and meeting rooms, talking through certain situations and certain looks,
32:43
Speaker 8: seeing how he thinks about certain things, and really just
32:46
Speaker 8: being on the same page. I feel like it was
32:49
Speaker 8: in a sense almost easy to like become on the
32:52
Speaker 8: same get on the same page with him, and I
32:54
Speaker 8: feel like just continue to growth there to make us,
32:56
Speaker 8: you know, become so much better.
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Speaker 3: I think you know the names Walter Jones and Steve Hutchinson.
33:00
Speaker 3: I think you probably learned about them. I asked Walter
33:02
Speaker 3: about how much better were you in your second year
33:06
Speaker 3: with hutch than you were in your first year? He
33:08
Speaker 3: said it was night and day. Well, you guys were
33:10
Speaker 3: terrific as a pair last year. Are you expecting like
33:14
Speaker 3: a big leap forward as a as a pair this
33:17
Speaker 3: upcoming season?
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Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely.
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Speaker 8: I feel like like we we have, we have opportunity
33:21
Speaker 8: friend lists to play out baseball baseball hit US continue
33:25
Speaker 8: to grow, not just not just left.
33:27
Speaker 2: Side, but us as a whole group.
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Speaker 7: Charles Cross with us and and uh, here, Brian, we
33:34
Speaker 7: got a new offensive coordinator and uh, I know you're
33:39
Speaker 7: gonna tell me that the club is striving for continuity
33:43
Speaker 7: and the and that's mostly connunity. But there you got.
33:45
Speaker 7: There's got to be something that is different from Clint
33:49
Speaker 7: Kobiak to now with the new offensive coordinator. What from
33:53
Speaker 7: your perspective, even if it's a minor thing, is there
33:56
Speaker 7: some adjustment that you see.
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Speaker 8: From this year to last year? The playbook is similar,
34:04
Speaker 8: some some new things are in. But I f like
34:08
Speaker 8: one thing. One thing with Flury's we're gonna run the ball,
34:11
Speaker 8: and he espaces us to run the ball and we're
34:14
Speaker 8: gonna get it done at the end of the day.
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Speaker 7: Well, last year, you guys, in the first fourteen games,
34:21
Speaker 7: he had two games where you rushed for over one
34:24
Speaker 7: hundred and forty yards. Then in the last six counting
34:27
Speaker 7: the playoffs in the Super Bowl, five of the last six, uh,
34:31
Speaker 7: you were over one hundred and forty, like average one
34:32
Speaker 7: hundred and fifty one. Through that stretch, there was a
34:35
Speaker 7: big uptick in how you ran the football. And I
34:38
Speaker 7: would argue, if you don't have that uptick, you're not
34:41
Speaker 7: wearing the hardware on your hand. What happened to be
34:46
Speaker 7: able to from two thirds three cords away through the season, Now,
34:49
Speaker 7: all of a sudden you kind of found it and
34:52
Speaker 7: you and you started dominating people in the running game.
34:55
Speaker 2: What happened. I feel like we weren't stacked like we weren't.
34:58
Speaker 8: We weren't stackning like we always continue sup push to
35:00
Speaker 8: get better week the week now for like they contribute
35:02
Speaker 8: to having a better run game as the season went on.
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Speaker 7: Give an example, like how you say, okay, we weren't stagnant.
35:10
Speaker 7: But give it, give like one example the an anecdote
35:14
Speaker 7: that where you say okay, that that's a symbol of
35:17
Speaker 7: how we improved.
35:19
Speaker 8: Just being able to finish, finish the game, finish the
35:22
Speaker 8: game with the battle in our hands, being great for
35:24
Speaker 8: a minute, being able to control control the football, just
35:29
Speaker 8: having methodical drives, keeping the ball moving forward.
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Speaker 3: That's what I would say, Charles Cross is with us,
35:36
Speaker 3: you know, Chuck and Chuck, that magical combination with you
35:39
Speaker 3: right here on kJ R. All right, so hard knocks
35:42
Speaker 3: like it, dislike it, don't care about it.
35:44
Speaker 2: Where you at what I mean?
35:45
Speaker 8: I mean they hear, So just just embrace the moment.
35:49
Speaker 8: I mean that the camera's not gonna go away to
35:51
Speaker 8: control with So just it is what it is for me.
35:55
Speaker 3: It's really your only chance to be cast on House
35:58
Speaker 3: of the Dragon. So if you can really like be charming,
36:02
Speaker 3: you never know. I meant to get a roll on there.
36:05
Speaker 3: Maybe you can be cgied onto a dragon.
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Speaker 2: I want to be next year. I want to be
36:09
Speaker 2: more of my seal yourself.
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Speaker 7: Okay, with which one? Which one's hamming it up for
36:15
Speaker 7: the cameras the most. Somebody on this team has got
36:18
Speaker 7: to be playing to the cameras a little bit.
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Speaker 4: Who's getting who's who's getting?
36:21
Speaker 8: Some grief about that? Oh, I feel like everyone. I
36:24
Speaker 8: feel like everyone pretty much just being their sales. So
36:26
Speaker 8: if like just so and so on how we are
36:28
Speaker 8: as a team. Everyone's on their their true personalities, and
36:30
Speaker 8: I feel like this this what they want to see.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't want to see Mike McDonald's flashing
36:37
Speaker 3: a little more leg than he normally does. That'd make
36:40
Speaker 3: me uncomfortable. I think, Hey, man, have a great year
36:43
Speaker 3: out there. All right, thank you very much for joining us.
36:46
Speaker 3: We appreciate it. Charles Cross, you're starting left tackle for
36:49
Speaker 3: your world champion uh Seattle Seahawks, joining us right here
36:53
Speaker 3: on day number four of training camp, our second day
36:56
Speaker 3: of training camp coverage.
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Speaker 4: Uh, and we're going.
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Speaker 3: To yeah, yeah, we'll probably talk about Charles bond Is
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Speaker 3: back that he's walking away and talk about Brian Florey
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Speaker 3: as well. Next on Sports Radio ninety three point three
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