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- 0:00Speaker 1: You realize if you go see a symphony play Beethoven's fifth,
- 0:03Speaker 1: you're watching a Beethoven cover band. Right, it's one more thing.
- 0:08Speaker 2: I'm one more thing.
- 0:13Speaker 1: I've always liked that show, I know. But before we
- 0:16Speaker 1: get to Beethoven, Katie, you mentioned you watched the Menendez
- 0:21Speaker 1: brother series. Is that anything.
- 0:23Speaker 2: I have not finished it yet. I've gotten through the
- 0:25Speaker 2: first three episodes. Is it pretty good? It's yeah, it's
- 0:29Speaker 2: really good. It it starts to get really sexual though.
- 0:33Speaker 1: Well that's so, I don't remember what we knew at
- 0:36Speaker 1: the time and what we just found out recently. But
- 0:39Speaker 1: the reason that evil Giscone in la is talking about,
- 0:43Speaker 1: you know, looking at this new evidence, and some of
- 0:45Speaker 1: the original lawyers think the Menendez brothers should get out,
- 0:49Speaker 1: and Gascone I think said today that they could be
- 0:51Speaker 1: out in time for the holidays. It's I need to
- 0:56Speaker 1: take a look at this series. I mean, it was,
- 0:57Speaker 1: you know, is a story that got lot of America's attention.
- 1:01Speaker 1: I mean, the horrible idea of you know, your kids
- 1:03Speaker 1: killing you like that in such a violent way, right,
- 1:06Speaker 1: But now the new information is there was so much
- 1:08Speaker 1: horrible sex abuse coming from.
- 1:10Speaker 2: Dad, Yeah, coming from dad and there were a couple
- 1:14Speaker 2: of scenes that I've seen so far where the brothers
- 1:17Speaker 2: get really graphic and are explaining what exactly happened to
- 1:20Speaker 2: them on multiple occasions.
- 1:22Speaker 1: Wow, And that'd be something if they get out after
- 1:24Speaker 1: decades of being in prison and we decide, eh.
- 1:28Speaker 2: Hey, if the kids aren't around it, I would say,
- 1:31Speaker 2: big time watch it.
- 1:32Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah, And I know a number of people who've
- 1:35Speaker 1: gotten pulled into it and really enjoyed it. Okay. So
- 1:39Speaker 1: over the weekend I got into Beethoven pretty heavy. This
- 1:43Speaker 1: book that I had started reading a couple of years ago,
- 1:45Speaker 1: I got back into an audio form about Beethoven's Ninth.
- 1:48Speaker 1: The name of the book is the Ninth, and it's
- 1:51Speaker 1: about what a lot of critics consider the greatest symphony
- 1:54Speaker 1: ever written. Whether that is true or not, I don't
- 1:58Speaker 1: know from Beethoven. And it's about the life and times,
- 2:02Speaker 1: and it's really just about what it was, what it's
- 2:05Speaker 1: like in the world in eighteen twenty four, and what
- 2:09Speaker 1: Beethoven was like and Vienna was like in all this
- 2:11Speaker 1: different sort of stuff. But here's one part that I
- 2:13Speaker 1: wanted to pass along that I thought was pretty entertaining.
- 2:15Speaker 1: This is a made up conversation by the author, but
- 2:19Speaker 1: it's made up, but it's pieced together ideas from various
- 2:24Speaker 1: accounts that other people I mean, so it's pieced together
- 2:27Speaker 1: from real stuff, other people saying this is the way
- 2:30Speaker 1: Beethoven talked, and he just put together these different fragments
- 2:33Speaker 1: into what could have been one thing that would be
- 2:35Speaker 1: pretty close to accurate.
- 2:37Speaker 3: And then coming up after that what has become my
- 2:40Speaker 3: favorite show business story of all time involving Ludvig Vaughn.
- 2:45Speaker 1: Fantastic and the fact that he was deaf is really interesting.
- 2:48Speaker 1: That he composed so many of these great symphonies deaf
- 2:51Speaker 1: is just mind boggling. And it talks in the book
- 2:54Speaker 1: about how when the first episode of the Ninth I mean,
- 2:58Speaker 1: he's up there on stage, somebody else is conducting it
- 3:01Speaker 1: because he can't hear, and he's there on stage kind
- 3:03Speaker 1: of watching things, and he has no idea how it's
- 3:06Speaker 1: going because he can't hear, and he doesn't know if
- 3:09Speaker 1: it's being played well. And then he didn't know at
- 3:11Speaker 1: the end if people liked it or not. And the
- 3:13Speaker 1: person with him made him turn around so we could
- 3:14Speaker 1: see that people were clapping because other as he didn't
- 3:16Speaker 1: have any idea, isn't that wild?
- 3:19Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 3:20Speaker 1: Anyway, here's Beethoven and it includes the term Astrians. So
- 3:26Speaker 1: he's in Austria, Vienna, Austria where they perform it for
- 3:30Speaker 1: the first time, and he wrote it and he has
- 3:32Speaker 1: no respect for the people of Austria, and he calls
- 3:35Speaker 1: him astrians as in like a holes. It's a play
- 3:38Speaker 1: on words, you know, right, well, it's a good one.
- 3:40Speaker 1: And his friend Schindler, who's also a composer. But of
- 3:47Speaker 1: no note, Really, where's that ass Schindler. I can't find
- 3:50Speaker 1: my black frock coat. Maybe he knows where it is.
- 3:53Speaker 1: It seems I'm doomed to be surrounded by cretans and thieves,
- 3:56Speaker 1: unworthy of breathing the same air that I breathe. I'm hungry,
- 3:59Speaker 1: but I don't want to eat anything now. My nerves
- 4:01Speaker 1: are in such a state or I won't be able
- 4:02Speaker 1: to control my bowels during the performance.
- 4:07Speaker 3: I've had days like that.
- 4:09Speaker 1: This damned concert. If it only it brings in enough
- 4:11Speaker 1: money to keep my head above water for the next
- 4:13Speaker 1: few months. I can't bear this constant, eternal scrounging for money.
- 4:16Speaker 1: I who have given so much to people I shouldn't
- 4:19Speaker 1: have let myself be persuaded to give this symphony's performance here.
- 4:22Speaker 1: These horrible astrians are we Reverend Admires and Disciples or
- 4:29Speaker 1: whatever it was these shitheads wrote about me. He can't
- 4:32Speaker 1: trust any of them. Someone probably remembered that all my
- 4:35Speaker 1: other symphonies were performed here, and that's why they convinced me.
- 4:37Speaker 1: And he goes on and on like that. He's always
- 4:40Speaker 1: constantly worried about shitting himself. He hates he hates everybody
- 4:45Speaker 1: in the audience. He thinks they're so beneath him that
- 4:49Speaker 1: they don't even deserve to have his music. He's constantly
- 4:52Speaker 1: are yes, he's constantly broke and angry about that, and
- 4:57Speaker 1: he's mean to everybody. Oh, and he lives in filth.
- 5:00Speaker 1: His apartment is just full of filth, old food, and
- 5:03Speaker 1: dirty clothes, and it's just It was an interesting look
- 5:07Speaker 1: at Beethoven, since I only really knew him as the
- 5:10Speaker 1: you know, the marble bust sitting on a piano.
- 5:14Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I've read a fair amount about Beethoven
- 5:17Speaker 3: through the years. I am a great fan of his music.
- 5:24Speaker 3: Jack asked me, Oh, I'll finish the thought before we
- 5:26Speaker 3: go off on that tangent. But yes, he is a towering,
- 5:31Speaker 3: creative genius. I've known a few, no, not as towering,
- 5:38Speaker 3: but creative geniuses, and they're all weird as hell. It
- 5:42Speaker 3: just comes with the turf. So the idea that he
- 5:45Speaker 3: was an angry.
- 5:46Speaker 1: Bitter, superior, shitting.
- 5:52Speaker 3: Son of a bitch is not that surprising. Yeah, I mean,
- 5:56Speaker 3: what's it like to have a brain that could compose?
- 5:59Speaker 3: I mean people talk about the symphonies or the quartets.
- 6:03Speaker 3: My favorite Beetholl I love the symphonies, but is probably
- 6:06Speaker 3: the piano trios that have piano, violin and cello. They're exquisite.
- 6:12Speaker 3: You asked me during the show, what's a good place
- 6:14Speaker 3: to start with Beethoven? I love the sixth Symphony, which
- 6:16Speaker 3: we talked about Depastoralo, the pastoral Symphony. It's brilliant and
- 6:20Speaker 3: full of all sorts of hummable melodies. But the piano
- 6:23Speaker 3: trios are just amazing.
- 6:25Speaker 1: Anyway, So he's headed off to the concert the first
- 6:28Speaker 1: performance of the ninth and if.
- 6:30Speaker 3: You want to know the ultimate recording, it's an Ashkenazi
- 6:37Speaker 3: farroh and is it yo yo man cello. It might
- 6:40Speaker 3: be anyway, it's wonderful, look for it.
- 6:42Speaker 1: So they're headed over to the theater for the performance,
- 6:44Speaker 1: and is a nephew who he adopted as his own son.
- 6:47Speaker 1: Karl is with him, and Carl, you keep an eye
- 6:51Speaker 1: on the people taking the money. They're all fiebes. Well,
- 6:54Speaker 1: let's go play for these beggars, slaves and clods. I
- 6:57Speaker 1: soar above them as my music source, above my contemporaries.
- 7:00Speaker 1: We exist on different planes. And then he says, is
- 7:03Speaker 1: he's headed out the door for the crowd, lack for confidence.
- 7:06Speaker 1: As he's hitting out the door for the crowd that
- 7:08Speaker 1: he hates, he quotes somebody against stupidity. Even the gods
- 7:13Speaker 1: fight in vain. All right, let's go wow, wow, hey,
- 7:17Speaker 1: hey he did.
- 7:18Speaker 3: That's one of your freedom loving quoted that there they
- 7:21Speaker 3: right there, against stupidity, even the gods fight in vain.
- 7:25Speaker 3: So true.
- 7:26Speaker 1: That's hilarious.
- 7:27Speaker 3: Vladimir Ashkenazi, It'sak Pelman and Lynn Harrell. It's the ultimate
- 7:32Speaker 3: piano trios. Anyway, that's a hilarious thing to say and
- 7:37Speaker 3: so true.
- 7:39Speaker 1: It's funny though, because classical music just in general is
- 7:42Speaker 1: seen as so well classy. Yeah, cerebral, cerebral, classy, dignified,
- 7:48Speaker 1: pinky in the air, you know that sort of thing
- 7:51Speaker 1: he's called people's shitheads and and astrians, and you're all
- 7:56Speaker 1: a bunch of beggars and idiots. I guess I'll go
- 7:58Speaker 1: play my music. But why am I so poor? This sucks?
- 8:01Speaker 3: You don't appreciate me. I don't have the time nor
- 8:04Speaker 3: interest actually track this down. But what's the origin of
- 8:07Speaker 3: the phrase love the art, not the artist. What's the
- 8:11Speaker 3: you know, vintage of it could have been when somebody
- 8:14Speaker 3: ran into Baitthoven, right, they're like, hey, the fifth is amazing,
- 8:17Speaker 3: but god, what a prick dude, it's completely nuts.
- 8:21Speaker 1: Or yeah, people going to visit him and he's laying
- 8:23Speaker 1: there on his couch and there's like crusts of bread
- 8:27Speaker 1: around and old soup rotting in a bowl and he's filling.
- 8:30Speaker 3: Oh and then he gets like visiting my son in college.
- 8:33Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Then, and he's fifty three at this point,
- 8:36Speaker 1: so he's like, you know, fully into a life. He's
- 8:38Speaker 1: toward the end of his life. Actually, he gets up
- 8:40Speaker 1: off the couch. There's a bunch of people there to
- 8:44Speaker 1: talk to him about the symphony. Later that day, he
- 8:45Speaker 1: gets up off the couch and gets undressed to change
- 8:48Speaker 1: into the clothes he's gonna wear completely naked just while
- 8:51Speaker 1: he's talking to them.
- 8:53Speaker 3: And shits himself. Oh that's the worst part. Oh okay.
- 9:00Speaker 3: So here's my favorite, my new favorite show business story
- 9:04Speaker 3: involving Beethoven. So it's eighteen nineteen. He's approached by this
- 9:08Speaker 3: music publisher who wanted to work with him, but Beethoven
- 9:12Speaker 3: didn't like him, and he was suspicious of him. But
- 9:15Speaker 3: I'll just read you the sentence. Eighteen nineteen. Beethoven was
- 9:18Speaker 3: first approached by the publisher Morriet Schleschinger, who won the
- 9:22Speaker 3: suspicious composer around while visiting him by procuring for him
- 9:26Speaker 3: a plate of roast veal. So he just show us
- 9:31Speaker 3: up and says, I know you don't like me, but
- 9:33Speaker 3: here's some veal. Beethoven's like, yeah, you're not so bad.
- 9:39Speaker 1: What Wow? I should myself. I should myself. I should myself.
- 9:45Speaker 1: Huch byself, I should myself, I should myself.
- 9:49Speaker 3: You myself?
- 9:50Speaker 1: He should his helth he should himself?
- 9:55Speaker 3: Oh boy, unfortunate. Well do next time we discussed Amadeus
- 10:01Speaker 3: how he was a genius.
- 10:02Speaker 2: Bud of bedwetter.
- 10:07Speaker 3: Mots are whatever.
- 10:08Speaker 1: Whatever.
- 10:09Speaker 3: Alright, Well, I guess that's it. Name a hit