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137 This Game of Hide and Seek Changed MY LIFE! · The Eye of Jupiter Podcast

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  Speaker 1: There was this massive dog man and he had already
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  Speaker 1: had one Paul, massive Paul on my front the chield,
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  Speaker 1: and one Paul right above my mirror on the driver's side,
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  Speaker 1: and the driver's side of my car just pushed down,
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  Speaker 1: just the weight of it just puts pushed down, and
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  Speaker 1: the Paul that was on my front windshield, my windshield
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  Speaker 1: started cracking.
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  Speaker 2: And held it and held it and held it. And
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  Speaker 2: then while I was holding it, but it's like the
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  Speaker 2: ground underneath me just kind of opened up and I
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  Speaker 2: just kind of fell through the planet.
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  Speaker 3: He wasn't moving, he wasn't blinking, like there was a
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  Speaker 3: complete like just like blankness to his face, like there
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  Speaker 3: was this there was nothing there.
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  Speaker 4: I rubbed my corn, I my truck, I jump out
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  Speaker 4: the truck tuck and that's what I knew it was.
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  Speaker 2: It was just gone mare.
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  Speaker 1: There would be a real low gteral crowd.
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  Speaker 2: One more step and he's going to be in clear view.
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  Speaker 2: And he takes that one.
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  Speaker 3: More step and he just it was like he just
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  Speaker 3: stepped behind an invisible curtain and he wasn't there anymore.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome back to the show, every one. This is episode
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  Speaker 3: one and thirty seven with Curdish Jones. Curtis Jones reached
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  Speaker 3: out to me via my email, which is the ia
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  Speaker 3: Jubiter podcast at gmail dot com. You saw me on
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  Speaker 3: the uh saw me on the YouTube there though YouTube,
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  Speaker 3: that's how we say it over here. And he wanted
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  Speaker 3: to come forth and talk about his incredible bigfoot encounter
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  Speaker 3: back in nineteen eighty three when he was fifteen years
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  Speaker 3: old in northern California.
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  Speaker 2: So he was playing on the.
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  Speaker 3: Hide and Seek with cowboys and indians involved or whatever,
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  Speaker 3: and he saw these three figures crossing a school field
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  Speaker 3: about I think it was nine o'clock at night, nine
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  Speaker 3: thirty at night, and he goes into depth about what
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  Speaker 3: he saw if he coming back to the show. First
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  Speaker 3: of all, thank you all so much, and all the
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  Speaker 3: new listeners out there, welcome, Welcome to the show. Please
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  Speaker 3: me at the ia Jubiter podcast at jumail dot com
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  Speaker 3: if you want to go ahead and talk to me.
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  Speaker 3: That's what Curtis did. I want to thank you Curtis
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  Speaker 3: so very much for coming on the show with Fantastic.
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  Speaker 3: I'm really enjoying the direction of the show is going.
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  Speaker 3: I've been going through and updating all my thumbnails and
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  Speaker 3: all the you know, all the things that go involved
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  Speaker 3: with that, and it's been a lot of fun. So
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  Speaker 3: please enjoy this episode with mister Curtis Jones.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, how you doing, Tom?
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  Speaker 3: Like I was telling you right before that was chewing
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  Speaker 3: on a piece of toast and trying to eat something.
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  Speaker 3: It's been a long day, man. How about yourself?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been pretty easy for me. I do the
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  Speaker 2: same thing. I'm kind of semi retired. Basically, I just
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  Speaker 2: do door dash really Oh okay, I own I own
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  Speaker 2: my own home and everything. So yeah, that's the way
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  Speaker 2: to go. Man.
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  Speaker 3: You have freed yourself up, dude. That's uh, that's the dream.
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  Speaker 3: People always say, you know, what do you want to
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  Speaker 3: do for retirement? And most people say that's silly. You know,
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  Speaker 3: I want to lay on the beach and drink my thighs.
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  Speaker 2: Not me.
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  Speaker 3: I just want to do what I want to do
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  Speaker 3: when I want to do it. I don't know if
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  Speaker 3: that's crazy or not. Definitely definitely so churis you reached
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  Speaker 3: out to me over my YouTube, not my YouTube. You see,
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  Speaker 3: you've been watching my YouTube channel. You told me you've
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  Speaker 3: been enjoying the content. Thank you for that.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: And then you have reached out, you know, through my
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  Speaker 3: email the I Jupiter podcast at gmail dot com.
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  Speaker 2: There you go. Not used to doing it. I used
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  Speaker 2: to doing it here.
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  Speaker 3: And you said that you wanted to talk to me
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  Speaker 3: about something, so you know, go ahead and go into it,
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  Speaker 3: walk me into it nice and slow and.
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  Speaker 2: Let's you know, let's uh, let's see what's going on.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So basically it's been about you and half. I've
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  Speaker 2: actually finally decided to come out. Uh. This is actually
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  Speaker 2: it's my it's my bigfoot encounter I had, and this
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  Speaker 2: was an encounter with three bigfoots actually, and the main
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  Speaker 2: reason I was able to come out even a lot
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  Speaker 2: better with this also is the fact that I have
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  Speaker 2: an identical twin brother and he also was there with
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  Speaker 2: the in the encounter as well, along with along with
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  Speaker 2: other two individuals too. We came to this town in
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  Speaker 2: northern California even though we were we were born and
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  Speaker 2: raised in California. But my aunt just happened to be
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  Speaker 2: living in a small town in northern California that we
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  Speaker 2: didn't really frequent at all, so we didn't even know
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  Speaker 2: the town, but we came to stay with her for
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  Speaker 2: over the summer. And this is the summer of nineteen
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  Speaker 2: eighty three. Me and my brother were only fifteen years
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  Speaker 2: old at the time, and so we get we get
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  Speaker 2: into town. We quickly made friends within just a couple
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  Speaker 2: of days, you know, just me and my brother, because
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  Speaker 2: everybody pretty much liked us from the get go. Me
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  Speaker 2: and my brother used to play hacky sack, you know,
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  Speaker 2: that was one of our big things. We play hacky
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  Speaker 2: sack together. So we always had people wanting to play
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  Speaker 2: hacky Sack with us and stuff. So that was our
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  Speaker 2: way into, you know, getting to meet friends and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: So we ended up meeting these two brothers neighborhood brothers.
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  Speaker 2: And then then we also have a younger sister that
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  Speaker 2: was with us also and she ended up with a
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  Speaker 2: with a short term boyfriend. Now in this town that
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  Speaker 2: we were living that we were at, it's actually Wyrika, California,
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  Speaker 2: is where it's at. It's right there right off the
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  Speaker 2: I five. Just before you get into Oregon, and it's
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  Speaker 2: just right on the eastern edge of the Klamauth Mountains.
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  Speaker 2: So you know, because I five runs right ups right
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  Speaker 2: straight up through the from Mexico all the way up
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  Speaker 2: through up to Canada, basically right right right right through
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  Speaker 2: the middle of the state. If you don't know, California,
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  Speaker 2: that's the main that's the main, the main highway or
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  Speaker 2: freeway we want to call it. But so anyways, like
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  Speaker 2: I said, we were right there in wa Rica. Now
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  Speaker 2: we're just there over just for a couple of months whatever,
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  Speaker 2: to stay with my aunt. And my aunt lived just
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  Speaker 2: maybe about eight or nine hundred yards away from the
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  Speaker 2: actual edge of the mountain. You know, there's like a
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  Speaker 2: there's a street right there. There's right along there, right
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  Speaker 2: along the edge of the mountain as well, there's a
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  Speaker 2: residential street. And we're just a couple of blocks away
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  Speaker 2: from the freeway up you know, going towards the mountains
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  Speaker 2: from the main part of town. There's a surface street
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  Speaker 2: that goes right right along a freeway parallel. My aunt
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  Speaker 2: was living in an apartment complex, and just to the
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  Speaker 2: north side of the apart apartment complex was a grade school.
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  Speaker 2: Uh you know, grades from like either like one through
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  Speaker 2: six or something like that. I somethe I can't remember, Jacke,
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  Speaker 2: but they're younger kids, and I stayed the school. I
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  Speaker 2: just mentioned the school because that's where we actually had
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  Speaker 2: our encounter, is at the schoolyard. Okay, So the main
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  Speaker 2: premise of this whole, this whole encounters that we decided
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  Speaker 2: we wanted to we were gonna play. Uh. It was
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  Speaker 2: one night. We're only there for about a week or
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  Speaker 2: so at the time, and we had the two brothers
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  Speaker 2: came over and then we had my sister and her
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  Speaker 2: and her boyfriend with us. Two. It was one of
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  Speaker 2: those two brothers that want that suggested we play a
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  Speaker 2: game of hide and seek. So, you know, me and
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  Speaker 2: my brother, me and my twin brother, we weren't really
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  Speaker 2: that big and playing that those kind of games because
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  Speaker 2: we were pretty much outdoors the time. We love to
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  Speaker 2: hike and all that stuff, you know. Anyways, but we
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  Speaker 2: pretty much uh went with these guys and decide, okay,
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  Speaker 2: well let's just go ahead and just do it, I guess.
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  Speaker 2: And it was kind of a combination of guns also
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  Speaker 2: because what we did is we split the teams up.
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  Speaker 2: There's a team of three on both sides. You know.
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  Speaker 2: So we had three of my three of us and
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  Speaker 2: three of and three of the other team. Now, my
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  Speaker 2: team consisted of my sister and her boyfriend. You know,
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  Speaker 2: that's just the way it was. We we chose teams.
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  Speaker 2: I can't remember how we did it, but that's where
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  Speaker 2: it came out to. And then my brother was on
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  Speaker 2: the other team. Me and him were the actual key
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  Speaker 2: team captains because nobody wanted us to be, you know,
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  Speaker 2: have some kind of unfair advantage, right.
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  Speaker 3: Did I tag you or did I?
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  Speaker 2: That's one way looking at it, but they probably might
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  Speaker 2: might have some kind of uh psychic ability or something
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  Speaker 2: like that or whatever it is. You know, they didn't
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  Speaker 2: want us on the same team and anyways here or there.
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  Speaker 2: But so that's the way it was. My brother had
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  Speaker 2: his team, I had mine with my I had my
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  Speaker 2: sister and her boyfriend. Now, now, during the summer at
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  Speaker 2: this time, it was it was a drought going on.
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  Speaker 2: It was it was like three or four or five
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  Speaker 2: years whatever it was. It was a it was a
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  Speaker 2: pretty big drought and it was pretty warm out. It
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  Speaker 2: was like over it was in July, and attempters during
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  Speaker 2: the day were like exceeding around you know, like one
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  Speaker 2: hundred and degrees out at this time. So we stayed
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  Speaker 2: indoors most of the days. You know, we'd get out
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  Speaker 2: every once in a while and we would go take
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  Speaker 2: a little walk down towards the park and everything, which
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  Speaker 2: is where we met up with these two brothers and everything.
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  Speaker 2: But okay, so now we're back at the school, and
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  Speaker 2: we did this at night time. This was it was
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  Speaker 2: probably about nine o'clock. It was at nine o'clock or
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  Speaker 2: so when we actually had this encounter. And this this
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  Speaker 2: is a two part encounter actually, because my brother's team
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  Speaker 2: is the one that actually had the first encounter, and
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  Speaker 2: then my encounter happened maybe five or so minutes later. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: in my in my own direct encounter I had with
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  Speaker 2: these guys. The start, the scar, the sky was nothing
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  Speaker 2: but full of stars. It was totally bright out, so
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  Speaker 2: you can actually see all the way across the field.
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  Speaker 2: You can see, you know, you didn't have to worry
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  Speaker 2: about having any kind of a flashlight and everything. So
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  Speaker 2: now over at the school, my brother's team just happened
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  Speaker 2: to be laying down just on the other side of
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  Speaker 2: the apartment complex right right at the school on the
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  Speaker 2: very edge of the property lines, and there's no fence
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  Speaker 2: right there anyways, there's no fence to go. We've had
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  Speaker 2: to go around the other side of the apartments to
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  Speaker 2: get to the field. But there's it's you just walk.
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  Speaker 2: You walk right into the into the school because there's
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  Speaker 2: a little playground right there, little kids playground is there's
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  Speaker 2: lights also that lights it up, so it's like a
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  Speaker 2: little park right there, and it's got all the jungle
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  Speaker 2: gym and stuff like that. And then the school is
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  Speaker 2: just right there, located right there, right next to that
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  Speaker 2: surface street as well, just like I said, just on
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  Speaker 2: the inside the apartment complex, and then over on the
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  Speaker 2: other side of the field over towards the mountains is
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  Speaker 2: right at the edge of that field is a big
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  Speaker 2: it's a ten foot chain link fence and that just
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  Speaker 2: stretched away from the northwest corner all the way back
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  Speaker 2: down towards the property line of where the apartment complex was,
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  Speaker 2: and then it just then it just stops right there.
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  Speaker 2: There's no fence after that, you know. So now my
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  Speaker 2: brother's laying there, and now I'm laying over on the
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  Speaker 2: opposite corner on the on that north north west corner
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  Speaker 2: of the of the school property, right at the edge
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  Speaker 2: of that tenth tenth ten foot chain link fence. There's
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  Speaker 2: a corner right there then right behind the baseball diamond,
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  Speaker 2: and so that's where my team was at. Well where's
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  Speaker 2: We're the ones that had to go and hide first.
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  Speaker 2: So they're supposed to the other team was supposed to.
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  Speaker 2: They're supposed to count down from the apartment complex. But
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  Speaker 2: they they would have. I think they might have count
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  Speaker 2: a little bit too fast. But so they knew exactly
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  Speaker 2: where we were located, even though we're supposed to go
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  Speaker 2: on and I didn't know exactly where my brother's team
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  Speaker 2: was at. I said, I was behind. We were laying down,
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  Speaker 2: face down on the behind the baseball diamond. My brother's
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  Speaker 2: where he's at. And now we're there. We're probably we're
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  Speaker 2: all laying down for about five minutes or so. And
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  Speaker 2: right there at the edge of the school where my
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  Speaker 2: brother the schools a little off to their you know
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  Speaker 2: down you know, right over on the edge of the
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  Speaker 2: school yard right there. But anyways, there's a little less
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  Speaker 2: there's a space that there's a little road, there's a
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  Speaker 2: little access road for the maintenance workers, and it's pretty
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  Speaker 2: it's kind of dark right there becau there's no lights
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  Speaker 2: right there, so it's kind of it's pretty dark right
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  Speaker 2: there before you get to that that surface street right there.
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  Speaker 2: So that's basically where and that's where these uh, these
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  Speaker 2: figures were actually at that we didn't realize were there
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  Speaker 2: until about five minutes later. And like I said, this
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  Speaker 2: is where my brother starts. They're they're sitting there looking,
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  Speaker 2: they're looking at my team. Even though I didn't know
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  Speaker 2: where my brother's team was at, they knew exactly where
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  Speaker 2: we're at, and they're just gonna just contemplate on what
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  Speaker 2: their next move is gonna be, I guess. So now
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  Speaker 2: these three figures came walking right straight out from the
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  Speaker 2: side of the of the school, the schoolhouse, and they
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  Speaker 2: just started walking right straight, right straight, basically right in
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  Speaker 2: front of my my brother and his team was at.
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  Speaker 2: And at this point they're about thirty maybe forty feet
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  Speaker 2: away from where my brother's team was at. And as
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  Speaker 2: they were walking across and then they're now they're in
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  Speaker 2: between where my brother's team is and on the other
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  Speaker 2: side of the Sasquatches was the was the school. It
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  Speaker 2: was the little playground and it's got the lights and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: But it was still light enough even with the stars,
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  Speaker 2: with the ambient lights. But right away my brother and
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  Speaker 2: his team knew exactly what they're looking at. There's not
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  Speaker 2: even a question from the very get go. When they
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  Speaker 2: when these when these creatures were walking in front of them,
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  Speaker 2: they totally froze. I mean, they were just totally they're
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  Speaker 2: they're scared. They they didn't make one they didn't want
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  Speaker 2: to make any kind of any sudden moves whatsoever. So
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  Speaker 2: but as these creatures were walking in front of them,
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  Speaker 2: they're just they're just staring at them. They're just a
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  Speaker 2: totally in shock, not like a deep shock, like they
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  Speaker 2: didn't know what they're doing whatever, But they're just sitting
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  Speaker 2: there just watching them walk walk across and didn't want
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  Speaker 2: to draw any kind of attention to them. Now as
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  Speaker 2: these as these as these creatures were walking in front
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  Speaker 2: of them, they didn't those those those the big poots,
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  Speaker 2: didn't even them, didn't even acknowledge my brother and their
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  Speaker 2: team at all, didn't even didn't even recognize if they're
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  Speaker 2: there or not. You know, they just kept walking and
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  Speaker 2: they were walking about. They're walking in a single file,
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  Speaker 2: probably about ten feet away from each other or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: It was, but they're just walking right straight towards that
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  Speaker 2: towards that chain leak fence on the other side of
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  Speaker 2: the property. Okay, but now that when these creatures got
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  Speaker 2: to the in the middle of that baseball, softball field,
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  Speaker 2: whatever you wanna call it, then they just then then
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  Speaker 2: now my brother and there and their team they're looking.
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  Speaker 2: They just looked at each other and they actually whispered
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  Speaker 2: it to each other. I mean, they just flat out
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  Speaker 2: just said bigfoot. You know. They just or they they
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  Speaker 2: lip seed, they lips together, you know, they just they
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  Speaker 2: just see that. They said bigfoot, bigfoot, you know. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so when they get so once these bigfoots and that
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  Speaker 2: that probably took a good total of maybe twenty maybe
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  Speaker 2: twenty seconds or so by the time they by the
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  Speaker 2: time they walked all the way across from in front
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  Speaker 2: of my brother and got to the fence line. And
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  Speaker 2: now with the three of them, with the three bigfoots,
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  Speaker 2: there's two of them that were about the same size.
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  Speaker 2: They're they're about six to six two maybe something like that.
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  Speaker 2: And the tallest one was about was about another three
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  Speaker 2: inches taller than them the other other. So and that
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  Speaker 2: and they we we figured that they were probably about
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  Speaker 2: that that the third one was about six four five.
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  Speaker 2: That's what we came up and estimates, at least that's
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  Speaker 2: what my brother's team came up with. Anyways, So that's
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  Speaker 2: we already know that one was bigger than the other two.
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  Speaker 2: So when they got when those creatures got to the fence,
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  Speaker 2: it was the bigger one. That All he did and
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  Speaker 2: like I said, this is a ten foot chain league fence.
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  Speaker 2: All this thing did was just grab a hold the
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  Speaker 2: top of that fence, because the fence is just a
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  Speaker 2: it was a it was a just a long pole.
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  Speaker 3: It was.
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  Speaker 2: It was aluminum. I think it was made of aluminum,
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  Speaker 2: if I remember, Yeah, they call it top rail. I
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  Speaker 2: used to be yeah, straight across. But anyways, so this
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  Speaker 2: sasquatch just grabbed hold that top of that fence and
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  Speaker 2: just threw itself to the other side. It did. It
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  Speaker 2: did like a side like a side swipe. You It
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  Speaker 2: just swung his feet over, didn't even touch didn't even
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  Speaker 2: touch the fence with its feet whatsoever. It just made
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  Speaker 2: one just one leap over to the other side like
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  Speaker 2: a side side swipe. We're gonna call that. So but
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  Speaker 2: now on the other side of that fence, nothing but
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  Speaker 2: a huge, big piece of undeveloped piece of property that's
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: owned by this by the city. It was just a huge, big,
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: big piece of property. It is just nothing but just
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: a bunch of rolling little hills. We're gonna call them
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: or uh, dirt mounds. Yeah, yeah, I just don't know
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: what the proper terminology would be. But anyways, so I'm
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: just giving you a little bit of what's going on
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: with the.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: You're doing great, man, I feel like I'm right there
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: with you.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: Anyways. And like I said, there's and and even the
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: grass was like overfilled. They didn't there there was not
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: maintained whatsoever. There's a lot of ditches and stuff all
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: the way through the whole property. There's some scattered there's
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: some scattered uh pine trees. They're blank dye like they
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: look like they're dying. Yeah yeah, yeah, there's no leaves
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: on them or stuff like that either. But and then uh,
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: there's also some scattered brush thick there's some there's just
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: just a scattered around through the whole piece of property.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: There's some a couple of little thick brush brushy areas also,
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: and the grass was about three about three feet high.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: So that just kind of explains what the train looks like.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: So now and then even at that fence line, there's
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: a there's like a little bit of a little bit
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: of a slope right there before you get that slopes
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: down into the into that property. Okay, so you're kind
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: of like up up up, it's up above the property
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: line there. But so anyway, so when the sasquatch jumps over,
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: he's gotta it's gotta jump all the way. It jumps
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: all the way over, but it's got a clear another,
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: you know, not only just ten feet down, it's got
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: a clear way out. And with all that all that
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: uneven ground right there, you just can't picture a person,
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: a regular person doing something like that without breaking an
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: angle or whatever, because you still you still gotta go
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: out another fifteen feet probably just to be able to
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: clear that bird that's right below, you know. Okay, so
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: that's quite a way. That's quite now. The other two,
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: the other two bigfoots, they didn't go over the fence
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: at all. They just walked down the fence line back
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: towards the property line of the apartment complex and just
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: walked around the fence. That's all they did. The other
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: two did Okay, so that's that's my brother's perspective on
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: his what he saw.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: Okay, you spoke about this afterwards, Okay.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah that was yeah, that was his that was his thing. Yeah, yeah,
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: we I only know what he told me. Could I could.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: I didn't personally see exactly what I had a whole
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: different perspective on what I seen. And that's what's really
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: crazy about this whole story is it's like the fact
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: that there's three of us on our team, and then
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: and then now you have you know, and then then
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: you got three sasquatches. Right. That's where that's where the
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: that's where the confusion comes in because you see where
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: it's leading now here here. I'm over on the other side.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: I'm behind that baseball field, right next to the you know,
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: right next to the uh that fence, and right behind
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: us right there is the there's a man gate. You
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: can go through that man gate. You can get on it,
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: go right through the through the gate, so you can
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: get onto that that uncharted or that piece of property.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: Okay, like a walking gate.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Like a walking gate I called a man gate, I guess.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: And but yeah, yeah, but I'm you know, I'm from
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: the east coast or from the west coast. I'm sure terminology,
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: but yeah, it's just the gate.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: You know, like like a six It's got a six
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: foot high like door. It's like a door type thing,
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, so that's where we're I started. I
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: started to kind of drift away anyways, and just like says,
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: it's about five minutes, you know, I'm just kind of
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: drifting away. I'm laying down now. My sister she's she's
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: right here, right next to me on my left hand side,
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: and her boyfriend, her boyfriend was right on her left
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: on the other side, and uh so she nudged, she
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: had to nudge me right, and then she's all telling me, hey,
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: here comes the other team. The other team's coming across,
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: getting ready to walk across the field, right, Okay, so
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: that's where the confusion came in, right, and I had
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: to rub my eyes. I'm gonna rub my eyes a
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: little bit, you know, to wake them up a little bit.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: And so yeah, that was definitely as far as I was.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: They're like about one hundred and fifty feet away from
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: me at least, so I didn't get to have that
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: that definition or anything, you know. I just seen the
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: three silhouettes walking across the field, and I wasn't staring
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: at him because, as far as I was concerned, that
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: was my brother's team, right, that was all there was
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: to it. All of us, me and my sister and
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: her boyfriend were just yeah, it was the other team,
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: and that was we had no We were one hundred
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: percent sure. There's no there's no other reason why anybody
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: be walking across that field at nine o'clock at night too,
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: you know, right, So as they were walking across, we
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: weren't look like I said, we weren't looking at We
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: just stayed. We kind of kept our heads down low,
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: and I would look up. I'll just kind of look
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: up just to see where, you know, which way they
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: were going. I get it's obvious they were going towards
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: the fence. So instead of us, instead of us going
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: out and just start trying to blast away with our
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: fingers and start blowing, you know, and that's all we
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: have is our fingers, you know, bank, bank bang, you know,
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: we decided to we decided to crawl through the man gate,
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: you know, the gate, you know, to get on the
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: other side so we can have an element of surprise.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: But I wasn't thinking they're gonna jump over the fence
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: or anything like that. I thought that they'd maybe come,
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: maybe coming towards us, or stay right there along the
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: fence line somewhere. But so meanwhile, as we were, as we
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: were crawling through the fence, I didn't feel nothing. I
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: didn't feel any kind I didn't even I knew that
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: they got to the fence, but I wasn't looking at them,
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: you know, so I knew they got to that point,
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: but we were as we were crawling through the fence,
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: I just know that we get we get on the
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: other side. My sister and her boyfriend are following me,
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: and uh, then we just start crawling down the fence
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: line on the on the other side, on the other
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: piece of property up up above that bird you know,
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: that little slant that we were at. But anyways, but
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: we we crawl all the way down about midfield, basically
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: in the same place where the where those big fits
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: were actually hat you know, which I thought was my
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: other team, the other team. So we get down there.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: That took it. That took at least maybe a minut
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: a minute and a half. Maybe they finally get down
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: that far at least that's my estimation. So we get there,
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: We get there, and then there's there's no signs of anything,
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: nobody there. So I'm just looking around, going, Okay, where's
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: the where's the other team at now? You know. So
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: now we just stayed there. We just rested our backs,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: we rested our down with our backs against the against
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: that fence, and we're just looking straight up towards the mountains,
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: right We're looking at the top of the ridge of
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: the mountain and stuff, you know, And like I said,
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of ambient lights. You can still see across.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: You can see the residential the residential street that that
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: goes parallel with the with the mountains right there, and
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: you can see all the way across. If I if
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: I went walking across that field, you wouldn't have to
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: use a flashlight at all, you know, you can see
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: all the way across. Anyways, So now we're sitting there
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: and then my sister and her boyfriend were they're they're
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: already starting they're starting to show science that they were
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: kind of getting bored with the game a little bit,
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: you know, so now they decided they wanted We were
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: there for about a minute or show at that point,
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: but they decide they want to go crawling out into
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: the grass, right, So now they I was kind of
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: glad that they're going because they're they're kind of giggling,
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: their touchy feely type of thing going on, you know,
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: and yeah, there's a So I was more than happy
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: that that they that they get away from me because
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: I was I was getting a little bit of all
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: my nerves. I didn't want the other team to come
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: to catch us, basically, you know. So yeah, so they
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: crawled out into the field into the grass, and uh,
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: I wasn't paying attend to exactly where they're which I mean,
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: I knew which way they were going because they were
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: slightly to my to my right actually when they're when
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: they took off and they had they just started crawling
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: out through the grass and there's, like I said, it
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: was about three feet weeds and grass. But they just
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: headed out. But they're still giggling and stuff. And I
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: kept telling to be quiet, you know. I kept you know,
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: like a like a more of a kind of loud whisper,
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: but not not super loud, just enough to where they
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: can hopefully they can hear me. I kept telling them
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: to be quiet. You know, but they kept going. They're
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: still they're still giggling all the way through and stuff.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: And so meanwhile, not really paying attention exactly where my
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: sister and her boyfriend are at. I'm just looking. I'm
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: just going back and forth, just scanning the whole the
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: whole piece of property, just back and forth. I'm looking
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: down the fence line, down, you know, towards back towards
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: the apartment complex property line, and then then back over
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: the north side where I just came from. Just like
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: get you to show you where exact where I'm at,
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: what I'm looking at. And there's there's also there's there's
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: a there's streets on both sides. On the other side
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: of the complex area, there's a street going up that
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: goes right straight up to the cemetery. Actually it goes
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: right straight up to the cemetery. And then on the
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: other side it's called Jackson Street, that just goes right
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: straight up to the basically up towards that same street
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: that I'm telling you, that residential street. And then you
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: got that other service street that's right by the school
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: behind me. Basically, so now I'm looking up there and
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: I'm just scanning back and forth. Now I just have
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: to be looking I just had to be looking down
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: on the fence line back towards the property line of
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: the apartment complex. And now and then all of a sudden, well,
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: first of all, let me back up a little. But I
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: was there. I was doing this for a couple of minutes.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: I was already. I was already you know, I'm still
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: looking around. Oh yeah, even before I get that one.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: My thing a duh I got. I got really backed
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: up first, because now as I'm looking around. As I'm
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: looking around, now, I see two figures sitting on one
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: of those dirt mounds, only twenty feet away from me.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: And that's down just off to my left. Like I said,
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: my sister and my sister Nam, my sister and a boyfriend.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: They were calling off off to my right down there.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: And now I have to Now I have two other
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: figures which I didn't realize were there. I was just
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: like I said, I'm going back and forth. But now
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: I noticed those two figures sitting there right next to
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: the some thick shrubbery that was coming from pretty close
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: where I was at on my left, about twenty feet
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: out already, and that's where those two figures were sitting there.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Now at this point, I'm thinking that that's just my
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: sister and her boyfriend because they're just sitting there. So
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: that's why I'm saying, this whole thing is just totally
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: I got confused. I got. I got messed up on
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: both both counts. I got. I got messed up with
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: that when those three came out in the field and
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: I thought it was my brother's team. And now they
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: fooled me once again. You know, maybe not not by
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: their own fault or anything, but I got fooled because
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking that's my sister and her boyfriend at this point. Okay,
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: and this is going on for a couple of minutes.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: And meanwhile, they while they were there, well, they were
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: sitting there stern at it. They weren't even they weren't
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: even know them moving or anything. They were just sitting
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: there fixated at me, like they're curious of what I
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: was doing. But even though I wasn't thinking about that
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: at that time, they were facing me. Oh yeah, definitely.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: And uh, but what really didn't add up later when
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: I'm looking at it, but the fact that my sister
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: and her boyfriend were still giggling and stuff in the field,
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: you know, and they're probably pretty close to almost parallel
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: to where they're where those those two figures were at.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: But I can only whenever when they're giggling and stuff,
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm just kind of thinking that just it just
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: sounded as if that sound was coming from those same
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: two figures that were just off to my just slightly
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: off to my left, right right. So that's why I did.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: That's why I wasn't even afraid. I wouldn't even there
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: was nothing even they didn't even think about being afraid
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: about anything, you know. So meanwhile, they're sitting there, they're
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: still giggling and stuff, and I'm looking at these two creatures.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: Within that two minutes, I got two or three times
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: where I had to I put my hands up, you know,
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: I'm looking at those two and saying, hey, you know,
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: you guys got to stop stop giggling and stuff. You know,
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: you guys got quieted down. I kept and I did
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: about two or three times, and then finally I gave up,
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: you know, because I can still seeing them. But that's why.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: But but things after the fact, after all this stuff's done,
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: I already realized that these creatures weren't even moving. They
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: weren't even acting as if they were being playful for
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: one thing, even to even be giggling or anything. So
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: but I wasn't thinking that at the time, you know,
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: because I wasn't even I wasn't even staring at him
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: always fourth, but I definitely knew that they weren't. They
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: weren't moving around or anything. They weren't making any kind
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: of movements or anything, you know. And I see their
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: heads move just a little bit every once in a while,
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: but that's it. Not nothing major, didn't. It didn't really
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: equate to the fact that there'd be two people sitting
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: there laughing and giggling, you know, being playful. But okay,
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: now we'll go back to where I was. I almost
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: jumped the whole gun on that. But anyways, now I'm
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: looking down down that fence line, and then all of
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: a sudden, I see this third I seen this third
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: figure come running, dashing, running around the other those two
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: that were sitting there, that came out from behind the
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: brush that they were that that those other two figures
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: were there were at and it was about five feet
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: behind those two, those two figures. But but this thing
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: just ran out and just ran right was running right
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: straight across the field. And and like I said, that
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: that terrain right there is nothing but ditches and just
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: a lot of uneven ground already with the with the
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: high grass and everything. But it had to clear those
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: other two. It went out about ten feet from the
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: from the edge of that of the thick brush right there.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: It got right, it just cleared those other two and
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: then it made a bee line right straight towards me.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: You know, and this is happening, I mean really, I mean,
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: this thing was this was happening really quick, even though
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: I wasn't thinking about how quick they were until after
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: the fact. But this this creature got got to where
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: I was at, and it was about this is basically
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: about thirty feet from me when it started running towards me.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: But meanwhile, I'm okay, the other team it was just
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: one person from another team. So now I just start.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: I just had to jump on my I jump out.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: I had to jump on my feet right But even
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: before I can get my feet planted, this creature stopped
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: within ten to twelve feet from me, I mean, ran
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: right straight to me and looked right straight, just looked
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: right straight at me, just like that, just like that.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: I couldn't believe that. I mean, I wasn't thinking about
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: how fast it was, right because I was. I was
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: actually confused at this point because when I was looking
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: at this thing, I'm going just things just wasn't adding
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: up at this at this particular time, I was. I
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: started to get confused because me because this and this
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: stairdown only it was only about about a four second
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: stare down basically is what happened on that situation. But
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: when this thing came up to me, it was kind
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: of leaned down a little bit, and it was it
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: was kind of it was facing a little bit towards
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: its right, which is, you know, towards it's towards my left,
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: a little right. It was at angle like it was.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: It wasn't being aggressive whatsoever. It was almost as if
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: it was being pretty timid towards me. It was being inquisitive,
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: I guess, but there was nothing aggressive about this creature whatsoever.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: Even though I could see and I can see this creature,
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: not not that I couldn't see the definition of its
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: face at all, because it was still because the hair
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: that was coming down around its head and everything, and
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: the way when it was looking at me. I can
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: only see it kind of a little bit of a
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: little bit of lights from the stars and stuff coming
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: off from its left hand side, you know. You can
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: see a little bit of a profile of its nose,
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: but that's pretty much it. I couldn't tell you it
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: didn't look like it was Harry on his face at all. Like,
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: I guarantee you this thing was harry from the from
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: the head all the way down, because I can see
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: the individual hairs going all the way down. It was
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: probably about I'll say, around three inch of hair or whatever,
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: at least two to three inches, you know, just dripping
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: right down down the side of the profile of the
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: body and stuff. And at this point I couldn't tell
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: you how high they were because I couldn't tell what
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: if it was in a ditch or not, you know,
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: And and it was leaning down a little bit, you know.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: So now, yeah, like I said, so there's things looking
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: at me, and I'm looking at it, and there's like
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: I said, it's only going on for about four seconds
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: at the time. So but but I'm still going in
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: shock because I could not believe what I was looking at.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure all of a sudden you recognized it
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: wasn't wearing any clothes.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't wearing clothes, right, And and like I said,
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: and if I even talked about Bigfoot at all, the
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: fact is I didn't know anything about Bigfoot except for
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: the fact that I watched that film. It was like
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: seventy ages when I watched the The Legend, right, that
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: was the only that was the first time I watched
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: That was the only time. That was the first time
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: I ever knew what Bigfoot was is watching that film.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: And I was twelve years old at that time. And
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: this actually didn't take place until another uh three years later, yeah, yeah,
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: three years later. Basically, well you know five years duh,
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: you're right this math man math Yeah. So yeah. So anyways,
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: so when this thing is yeah, when this thing is
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: looking at me, now, now I just started Okay, even
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: though I knew my eyes, I knew what my eyes
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: was telling me, but my mind was telling me there's
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: no such thing as a bigfoot. So there's no way
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: I was on my radar except for what I was
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: looking at. So my my next instinct was just to
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: start blasting away. So I started just I put my
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: hands up and I started going I just started going
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: bang bang, bang bang. I just started yelling bang bang
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: bang is to top my lungs, right, even I think
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: part of it because the anxiety was going on with
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: me or whatever it was. The I don't know if
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: it was the excitement or the I wasn't I wasn't
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: scared at this point. I was confused and I was
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: in shock. That's right. That's the best thing I can
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: explain on that one.
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of cognitive going on. You know, You're
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: you're thinking, it's this. It pulls up to you, You're like,
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: what the hell is this? And then like your your bikey,
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: you just did something.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: I was trying to think logically, I'm thinking, okay, no, no,
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: that's the other team. That's all there is to it.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: You know, it's the other team, you know, So now, okay,
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: my next in sequence to guys just to start shooting.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: So I'm going bang bang bang bang bang. Then then meanwhile,
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: when I did that, that's when the other two figures
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: stood up on the mound that they were at. That's
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: when I realized. That's when I realized that there was
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: definitely this was definitely not human, that all three of
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: them were not human whatsoever. And the same thing. Even
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: with them, they were stood up just enough to where
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: I can tell that they were the same same situation.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: Like I said, they weren't as tall as that first one,
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: the one that came up to me. But but they
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: all three red when I started yelling, and I don't
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: even know how many times I yelled bang bang bang,
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: but they all three turned around and started, uh, they
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: started booking away from me, going towards the mountains, going
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: towards that residential street, like I said, quite a few
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: hundred of yards away, of course. But but they're leaping
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: through the grass, that tall grass and all those that
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: all that all that terrain was all uneven and stuff.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: They only did it. They only they're they're kind of going.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: They started out kind of fast, and then they kind
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: of slowed down because they kept they they were just
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: all they did was just they just started walking in
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: a very very natural state for them, I guess. But
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: they just kept looking back at me. They kept turning
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: their their upper torsos, you know. Yeah, they just kept
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: looking back at me, you know. And that's it. They
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: weren't being aggressive. They didn't There's no sound or anything coming
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: from at all mainly probably because they knew they were
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: in human territory anyway, so they're probably not going to
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: be making that right stuff that like like we would
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: hear from them if we go up to their into
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: the woods and stuff, you know. So, like I said,
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: they started, they went quite away, So I mean, I
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: was watching them this whole time, and I'm still confused.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm at this point. I was actually this when
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: I was getting even further in shock because I stopped
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: talking all together because my mind is just not processing
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: when my eyes were looking at you know, even though
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: I can see them, I can see the back of
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: them as they're walking away, I could tell that they
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: were like even the color was like a dark brown
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: or black. I couldn't tell exactly, but it's definitely a
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: darker color. And they seem to be kind of younger.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: They're they they're either they're either like older juveniles or
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: they could have been at least the two were at least,
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: but the other one might have been like a young adult,
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: you know, or juvenile. I'm not sure. Like I said,
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: that was only about three inches taller than the other
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: two anyways, But but as they were walking, I mean,
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: it was about another twenty or thirty seconds before before
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: I mean before I finally before they finally just drifted
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: off into the into the darkness, into the behind these
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: some housing the houses that are up there by the
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: residential street, you know, and you could walk between the
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: houses and stuff too up over there too. So but
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: then if you on the other side of that, you
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: have to there's like it's like a cliff. It's just
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: nothing but like a big sheer cliff to get up
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: if you can't. We can't. I couldn't just walk right
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: up that way. The only way to get up to
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: that ridge for us is going through the cemetery that
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: I was telling you about, right the back side there
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: kind of yeah, yeah, right there on the side on
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: the other side of the apartment complex, you will go
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: right right up, straight up there through the cemetery. And
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: then on the other side you just go right straight
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: through that that same entrance to the cemetery, and all
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: the way to the back there's a you go to
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: the you go through the fence. It's like an opening.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: You go through the fence and there's just there's a
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: game trail. There's a game trail that goes right straight
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: up and we've and we've done that, we've done hiking
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: up there throughout the years even after that, you know.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: But so you get up there, it takes about forty
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: five minutes because pretty it's sill, pretty steep hike going
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: up there, you know, it takes about forty five minutes
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: because the top of that ridge and then you uh,
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: you walk across that ridge. When you get the top,
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: it's just it's a trail. It's a there's not a maintenance,
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: it's not like a maintain trail. But it's definitely like
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: a game trail that goes right across the It goes
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: right across the where you can see the whole town.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: And there's no trees right there along that cliff edge,
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: you know, that steepness right there, there's no view of everything, right. Yeah,
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: you have a whole panoramic view of the whole town.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: I can see Mount Shasta like for you know, it's a.
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: Beautiful, sautiful place. Yeah. Yeah, you see Satas also very
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: oh yeah, just squatch yeah. Yeah, So you see the
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: whole town. You can see the I five, you can
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: see the little little you see the cars, you know,
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: up and down the I five, the little little looks
• 41:02
  Speaker 5: like little ants.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: You know. But you look, you look straight down, you
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: can see the school out. You can see the school,
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: and you can see the apartment complex right straight above.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: We'reut like where I'm standing, because we went up there,
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: and that's when you're visualizing what the Sasquats can be
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: looking at throughout the day or night. Because up there
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: along that ridge, there's trees behind it, you know, going
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: you know, just behind you, going you know back, you know,
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: going towards the west rock right there, but you know,
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: there's nothing but pine trees, pine force, you know, and
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: it's just totally thick. It goes all the way all
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: the way to the coast, you know whatever it is,
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: two hundred miles away or whatever. You know, there's no
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: there's no towns in between anywhere right there at all.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: But anyways, so like I say, so, now let's go
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: back down to where after I seen these, after I
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: already seen them drift away into the darkness. Then of
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: course we don't know which way to how they how
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: they got up to the top or whatever. But so
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: now I noticed my sister and her boyfriend were standing
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: right next to me. But when they were doing that,
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: we can still see the We can still see the
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: bigfoots walking away from us before they got into the darkness.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: So now my sister and her boyfriend, they could see,
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: they could see the figures, but they couldn't they couldn't
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: verify what they were, you know, they just knew that
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: they were human. They were human like or whatever, you know,
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: figures walking away. So now at this point, I'm now, uh,
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: after we're doing all this stuff, I can hear my
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: brother and his team coming from the apartment complex. Because
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: I forgot to tell you that when after these sasquatches
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: got over the other side over there, when they seen him,
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: they actually ran back to the apartment complex. That's how
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: scared they were. They didn't even yeah, they didn't. They
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: didn't care about me or my team. They just, yeah,
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: exactly self preservation because they knew exactly where we were at.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: You know, they didn't yell nothing. They got so scared
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: that they just ran back to the apartment complex. Even
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: though they didn't go inside. They just stayed. They just
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: hunkered down outside and just listening for us, you know,
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: just you know, but they were too afraid to go
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: and try to find us until they heard me, until
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: they heard me yelling. They heard me going bang bang bang.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: You know that's how That's how they knew where I
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: was at. I started going bang, bang bang, and I'm
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: just yelling like that. Now, now they got a little
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: bit there. They knew that something was going on, and
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: they they probably knew that it was at least halfway safe,
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: I guess. But so now my brother and them they're
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: running towards me through the through the school field there,
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: and I can hear them yelling something back at me.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: I think they're yelling my name or whatever, but I
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: couldn't tell because I was still confused. I was still
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: trying to decide for what was going on in my
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: mind at this time. So when I heard my brother's
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: team coming up through the field, I just turned back around.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: And I was already a little bit down on that
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: burro a little bit, so I had to walk up
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: back up to the fence. I put my fingers into
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: the into the fence, into the link. Yeah, those mess things.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: But anyways, and all I'm doing is just looking straight
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: up at the fence and looking down, and I'm still confused.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: I'm looking back and forth. I'm just kind of like
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: shaking my head I was. I wasn't even talking. I
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: was totally confused. I didn't even care what my brother
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: or my sister and her boyfriend were doing. I didn't
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: even care what they're doing, what they're even yeah, what
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: they had, I didn't even care. I was I was
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: just thinking about myself about what was going on, what
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: I just seen. You know. So now, it wasn't until
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: my brother and his team got up to the within
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: ten feet of the fence. The only thing that I
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: heard from my brother was that we just saw bigfoot
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: and that was it. The side of the fence. Yeah,
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: on the outside of the fence. Okay, yeah, I'm still
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: stuck on the other side, Yeah, on the demon side.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: You know, as far as I.
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: Was in Hell, guys, what's it going over there?
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, even though it's funny, Yeah, it's even funny with that,
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: because you know, when when I'm talking about how scary
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: it was, it wasn't even it wasn't even a scary
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: situation because these creatures were totally they were totally submissive.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: They're like, there's nothing nothing to it. The only person
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: that the only person that stressed out was me, And
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: I'm the only one that made any noise. I'm the
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: one to scared them off. Yeah, I was yelling at
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: them like I was some kind of just a crazy
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: little kid, you know whatever. I was screaming up a
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: storm and and part of it because I was confused anyways.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: But so now, when my brother got to that fence
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: line and he and when I when those words came out,
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: that's when that's when the actual fear. That was the
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: very moment in time when I experienced the worst fear
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: that I've ever felt in my whole life, for or
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: after and just nothing just all I know is that
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: the blood must have just ran from my head and
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: everything kind of went went kind of blank at that
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: time because I didn't even remember. I didn't even remember
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: myself getting over the other side of the fence. I
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: only heard it from my brother. Wow told me. My
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: brother told me that that that he he seen me
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: move quicker than that he's ever seen me move in
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: my whole life, you know. But somehow I just got
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: over that fence and I just jumped. I don't even
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: he didn't even say he didn't even see me jump
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: and get out the other side, put my feet on
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: the other side. I just got to the top of that,
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: and I just jumped straight down basically, but on that
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: of course it's level, it's level ground nice and even
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: no no worries there. And of course I didn't hurt
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: myself anyways, but you probably didn't feel anything if you. Yeah,
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: I mean I was, and I had I was full
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: of adrenaline, right, was full of adrenaline. The only thing
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: that came into my many memory after the fact, after
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: once he said that they saw bigfoot, the next memory
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: that even came into my mind was I was already
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: on the other side of the field. I landed on
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: my knees. I was all was close to the playground. Actually,
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: I was next to the playground, basically in the same
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: area where they were, like where my brother's team was at,
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: and you know where the and the and the bigfoots
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: were walking, But it was that's where I was.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: I was.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: I just lay, I just I was on my knees.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: Like I can remember my I can remember myself grabbing
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: a hold of my face. I had tears. I had
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: nothing but tears, not shaking. I was shaking uncontrollably and
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: I was in a deep shock. I mean I was
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: like totally shaking, and uh, and it took me about
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: it took about forty five minutes or so for me
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: to even just for me to be ald to collect
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: enough thought to build even express to the rest of
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: everybody else, what was what what I experienced, Because we
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: did end up we were all sitting around after I
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: was halfway calm down, but I was still in shock.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: We all sat around in a circle right there. We
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: just sat around in a circle, facing each other, and
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: and of course I positioned myself at that circle just
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: to be looking right straight at that fence. Oh yeah, dude,
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: that's yeah what I was doing. Yeah, I was worried
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: about even when I jumped over the fence. I wasn't
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: you know. Of course, I wasn't even worried about my
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: brother or my sister and her boyfriend.
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: You know, it was the same thing, the same thing
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: your brother did to you, so you kind of a
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: little bit.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was totally infeared. And so we sat around
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: and it took about forty five minutes before I find you.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: You know, everybody else was all telling their story, and
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: that's where I you know, I found out my brother's
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: side of the story and everything, and then the other
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: two guys, the other two guys that were there with us,
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: the other two kids, and of course that's where my
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: sister and them already they admitted as well, my sister
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: and her boyfriend meant that they they didn't actually get
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: to see exactly what it was.
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: You know, Wow, so much to brings so much of
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: like a realism to it. It's kind of I might
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: be awful, but it kind of it sounds like like
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: like the Breakfast Club where you sat around what's that
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: one with the kids in the forest in the eighties,
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: Like I can't think of the name of the movie.
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: It's just like to sit there and actually working it
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: out and work it out in the moment everyone tells
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: exactly what they saw in that moment. It brings so
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: much texture to this situation. It's incredible.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, even when I'm telling you that, it's a lot
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: easier for me to tell my story now because I've
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: already because I've been on another other podcast also, but
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: believe me, on my on my first few podcasts, I mean,
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: I'm all over the I'm all over the page, and
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: I'm just like you know, trying to get yeah, even
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: confusing myself at times, you know, And yeah, I was
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: doing a lot of studying, and I was even when
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: I first started telling my story. I was actually when
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: it came to that point where I was scared when
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: I'm telling the story and I would I would actually
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: start shaking even then, even just visibly kind of shaky. Yeah,
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: during my podcast, i'd be at least I felt like
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: I was shaking, But I guess I was mostly just
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: stuttering most of the time, you know, But to me,
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: I felt I was still shaking because I just I'll
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: just be like a I was having like a flashback. Yeah.
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: But now I told my hat Man's story yesterday and
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: I was able to see it again for like a
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: split second in my mind, and all of a sudden,
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: like this wave of like woof came over me again.
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: It's like you read live it. Uh, And then you
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: have someone that listens to you, you know, other podcasters
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: and other friends hopefully through the years. Eventually, I mean,
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: who do you who do you tell other than those people?
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: Did you end up telling others?
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: That's exactly and that's exactly what what was going on
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: when we were sitting around and stuff. Is that we
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: came to because we were there for about we're probably
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: there's just there's mostly out the excitement of what just happened.
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: You know, we're actually pretty excited about it. After after
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: my after my total fear, finally got away from it,
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: got you know, was back to normal. About two hours later,
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: we're just sitting there just talking about we're laughing about
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: it kind of thing. And then now we's now we decide, okay,
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: should we go to the police. Because first of all,
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: we didn't know there's no such thing as bigfoot research
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: anywhere as far as right, We didn't know anything about
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: like that. We didn't know anything about even looking for evidence.
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: I'm only fifteen years old. I didn't know that. I
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: didn't even have the forethought or even thinking about going
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: and checking out on the other side of on the
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: other side of that fence and see if we can
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: find footprints and all that stuff. But it's all dry anyways,
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: so I really doubt if there was much printing go.
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: There's all rocky and stuff on the other side. But
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: the next day we did look right there, right by
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: the field there, and there's still was no there's no
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: clear prints or anything. Like I said, the ground was
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: still pretty dry, right because of the drought. Right, Yeah,
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: so we and then the only next step that we
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: thought about doing when we were sitting there on that circles,
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: that should we go maybe go to the police or whatever, right,
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: But me and my brother we shut that down right
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: away because we're pretty shy. We're pretty shy kids. Anyways,
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: me and my brother, we're not going to involve the police.
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: List as a domestic type of situation, right or something crazy, Yeah,
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: not to mention the really cool things going on. And
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: then you know, the police aren't equipped for that kind
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: of stuff. And the fact that these creatures it was
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: already two hours later anyways, the it wasn't considered a
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: uh you know, an emergency, right, well, nothing happens, you know,
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: nothing happened. What happened to us, and that's it. You know,
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: we're all still alive and we're all, you know, breathing.
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: So there's no reason for us to even think about
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: walking like a mile or so whatever it was to
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: the police station up there, the only police station that
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: we had in town there was about a mile away,
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: you know, and uh, plus you know, it's already like
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: it says, it's already ten o'clock at night. Anyways, I'm
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: sure we probably if a police officer would have been pulling,
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: we wonder why we're walking the streets at eleven o'clock
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: at night or whatever it was right that, so we
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: pretty much already shut all that that stuff down. And
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: then we didn't even tell my aunt about it because
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: because my aunt, she's a she's a pot smoker and stuff,
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: you know, you know, I didn't want to be laughed
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: at and stuff at that. But we end up telling
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: her I think sometime within that a couple of months
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: that we were there, and they still didn't believe us anyways.
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: But that's yeah, it's the it's the early eighties, man,
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: I mean, not many people even there's still taboo.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: That subject was taboo no matter which way you look
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: at it, you know, speak, yeah, I mean, you know.
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: And then also I also got to I also got
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: to point out that that this this is the same
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: exact mountain ridge, the whole that that the PG film,
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: you know, Patterson Giblin.
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, okay, yeah, called okay PG.
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: I thought that's a California called the pg PG. But
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: that's the same exact mountain range, except it's just basically
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: down to the southwest of where we're based on the
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: other side of the mountain, basically towards a base Humboldt County.
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: But at this time, I didn't even know anything about
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: the the Patterson Gimlin film. Yeah, I didn't know that
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: until a matter of fact, I didn't even do any
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: more main research until like when the when that show
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: came out, the Finding Bigfoot thousands or whatever it was, Yeah,
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: with Bobo and all that stuff, you know, And that's
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: when that's the first time I remember seeing that particular footage.
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: And even then I didn't know exactly where Bluff Creek
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: was at. Yeah, even though even though I've lived my
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: whole life here, right, but I didn't know where Bluff
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: Creek was. Of course I'm living I'm living right by
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: the clam River and all that stuff. And I know
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: where Willow Creek is because I've been I've been through
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: Willow Creek a million times because I used to I
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: used to live in the Redwoods, you know, with my parents.
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: I've lived all down the coast, I've lived all over
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: in northern California, saif. Yeah, but specifically I didn't know
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: specifically where Bluff Creek was. As far as i'm that's
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: just another just another creek, is a bunch of creeks.
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: But I didn't even hear about Bluff Creek until I
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: until I started hearing about the the Gimlin film, you know. So.
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: And then another thing about this is that this my
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: my my encounter took place almost exactly fifteen years after
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: that Patty film. You know Patty of course is the
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: is the big Foot that they Yeah, sixty seven, I
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: was born. I was born almost to the day, just
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: well two months and three three weeks after that particular film. Yeah,
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: when they took when they took the film and everything
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: on the twentieth October. I was born in January twelfth,
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: sixty eight. And anyway, so fifteen years later, yes, yeah,
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: so now now, even just recently right now, after telling
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: my story a lot a few times the last couple
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: of episodes of of people that have out a different
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: podcasts I've been on, I started thinking that, you know,
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking again, I'm thinking that these three Sasquats were
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: probably the juvenile or young adults. They theoretically could have
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: been an offspring or descent of passion very possible, you know,
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: I meant, they could have even though.
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: That had to affect your whole life.
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: Man. You know, you know, people don't get like that effect.
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: For me, it was like, you know, after joining the military,
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: you're just like, oh, yeah, the world is a little
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: different place now. But being fifteen, all of a sudden,
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: is this you know, quote unquote monster or whatever you
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: want to call it, change everything?
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it definitely changed my my my thought about nature
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: in general basically, but just to the fact that with
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: the exact with the interaction I actually had with this
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: whole with these three creatures. First of all, they didn't
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: even match the same creature that I was afraid of
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: when I watched that the film, you know, the movie,
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: the movie that that movie, that creature is that was
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: a creature that was a monster as far as with
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: that with that film pretraded as So when I had
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: my experience, it was a totally different thing. It wasn't
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: There's nothing aggressive about it. So that's probably what kind
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: of kept me from not being so much afraid of
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: the actual species itself. Because of that. That's why that's
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: why I'm able to go camping and stuff. I've I've
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: gone camping all my life and stuff. I love camping.
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, you have to think about it too,
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: that I think the reason they were probably there too
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: is because they've been to that area many times. They
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: they they've watched that area and they know that normally
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: children don't play there at that time of night. So
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: like that, we're just safe to go from wherever they
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: were coming from to wherever they were going, you know,
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: and they just you guys were there, and you guys
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: didn't expect to see them and didn't expect to see you.
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was just purely by accidents. Yeah, absolutely,
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: they probably got They probably seen us messing around even
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: when I because I had when I left the other
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: team to go running around, I had to run around
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: the school to get to the other side to get
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: to to get to that you know, that that other
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: corner we ran out on that surface street going right
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: in front of the school. Those Sasquatches were right there
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: somewhere right there on the side of the school as
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: I'm as me and my team were running past that school.
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: So they had to be either right there or they're
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: coming up from the couple of blocks away. There's a uh,
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: there's an alleyway that with another theory who came up
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: with there's there's an alleyway where there's a couple of
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: not shopping centers per se, but there there's like they're
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: they're a little bit shopping right there. There's like stores
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: and stuff. There's a kmart and then there's a donut
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: shop and a pizza place and like a little strip
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: mall or something. Yeah, there's a there's there's two sidejacks,
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: there's a little there's a street that comes down. But
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: then but right behind him, I'm basically on my side
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: where we were at, there's an alleyway that's pretty dark
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: in there that has these big dumpsters. So that's kind
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: of another theory we came up, is the fact that
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: it was during the drought and everything, and maybe there's
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: an easy meal for them or whatever. I don't know,
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: but that's I mean, I just don't see them being
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: that far down to where we were, right by that
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: school where we were at, unless they had a purpose
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: for being there, I guess.
• 59:49
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, man, that is something man. And it took
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: you we were had what forty like before years later
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: to do that about it.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: I think when I came out, it was about I
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: think it was about forty three years when I finally
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: came out and started telling my story only because I
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: got on Facebook. You know which, Which group were you on?
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: Man?
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: Was it? Well? First of all, what I did? I
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: just got on Facebook and then I decided, you know what,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: And first of all I was I wasn't even really
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: that much into it at all at that particular time.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: I just got curious and bigfoot. You know, I'm searching
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: for bigfoot groups and there's tons and tons I mean,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: I joined about I just went down the list. I
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: picked all the ones that had the most uh uh
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: subscribers right right right, followers whatever, followers, subscribers, what do
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: you want to call it? But anyways, so I just
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: started clicking on. I clicked on about maybe a couple dozen.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: So I can't specifically remember. I know one was called
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: Bigfoot Believers or something like that. Yeah, big Yeah. Like
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: I said, I can't remember all the names. Always just
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: shut yes, buddy on in a while. Yeah, it's a
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: good group. That's a good group. That's one of the
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: best ones. Man.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: That's where I think maybe that's where you found me,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: because I just posted on there that I'm looking for
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: people who want to talk to me.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah. When I see you, you've been interviewed on probably
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: one of the podcasts I think I've been on.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: I've been on a couple on that many, but i've
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: been on a few.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I seen I either came across your pocket.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: I think that's where I first seen you as on
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: a podcast. Matter of fact, you're talking to Doug hid
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: to check if I remember.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 4: Right, oh him on my show. Yeah, microphone, that's what
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 4: it was. That's what I got. That's when I think
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 4: it reached out to you. When I've seen that just
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 4: a couple of weeks ago, when I seen that one.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: And speaking of Doug, I actually me and my brother
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: were actually featured on his on the on the Monster
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: Quest Awesome on the.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: Season five we're on season five, episode seven, which is
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: the last the last episode of the last season.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: Is there any any pages or anything you're promoting today, dude,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: anything that you want people to look at or anything
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: you want them to know about. Is anything that you
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: want to like help people about these creatures? What do
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: you think?
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: Well? What thought? Okay, so as far as my thoughts
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: about the creature itself is that you know, it's even
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: talking with everybody, you know, all these different podcasts and stuff,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: and where I figured out they're probably juvenile and all
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: that stuff. But first of all, these creatures were nothing
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: but flesh and blood in my situation. And I know
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: people talk about how they even the younger ones, if
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: they do possess like a like ESPs or whatever, doing mind,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: mind speaking and all that stuff. There could be something
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: to it as far as them maybe not have that
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: type of power until they get at a certain age
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: or whatever, you know, because they were young, the ones
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: that I experienced. So but even though I don't necessarily
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: leave in that in the in the UFO and and
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: the all that other stuff, the paranormal stuff with I
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: don't believe in them connected to the Bigfoot necessary, but
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: I also don't discount it. Right Also, I always look
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: back and say, well, Bigfoot shouldn't be existing either, you know,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: in the first place, and the fact that we can't
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: and the fact that we can't even find the bodies
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: or whatever, so that kind of just me towards I
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: can't I can't just totally dismiss right. Very intelligent.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: It's a very intelligent point of view, because you if
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: you can put yourself in someone else's foot, someone else's
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: you know, shoes, like myself, who's never seen it.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: You can you can.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: Say that I could say that I don't believe because
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: I haven't seen it, but you don't believe the other
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: stuff because you haven't seen it. But doesn't mean that
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: you can discount it. And I think that's a very
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: intelligent point of view.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: Well that is, and I've I've had to think about
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: them going, you know, and there was time I say, no, man,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: there's no way that could happen. But then I'm thinking,
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: why am I acting like that when when I'm got
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: I've got skeptics looking at me saying, what are you
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: talking about? Bigfoot doesn't exist, you know, And I'm going, okay,
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: I've gone through all that stuff, so I'm looking at
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: a different whole different perspective. You know, Why would I
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: be thinking the same thing, especially when there's already the
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: number one thing about bigfoot in the first place is
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: that all it takes is just one you know, you've
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: heard it all before. It only just takes one of
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: our claims to be true, you know, and that's all
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: it is. You've probably heard me say that before. I've
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: said that a million times. But then again, and if
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: you can establish that fact that there's at least one,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: then why not be thousands los.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: Just statistically speaking, just statistically speaking, if if there's say
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: there's I don't know, maybe I would venture to say
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: there's at least ten thousand reports that we know of,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: and there's probably more than double that because people still
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: don't step for it, I mean yourself, you know, being
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: one of them. Now, what are these statistical possibility What
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: is the statistical possibility of.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: There being zero?
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: The answer is simply zero, So that means the real
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: And then you watch the Patterson Giblin. You see it's
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: leg shake, the muscle, it's leg shake. There's no suit
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: even nowadays that can do that, all right, Yeah, and
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: then you see the braided hair on it and things
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: like that, the breastwing, and you're like, dude, this is real. Yeah,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: oh yeah yeah.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: And And I've always I've been pretty much sure for
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: the fact that it has to be the real thing,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: because of course, I look at the fact that I'm
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: that I actually seen these three creatures, the same exact species,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: the creature that that that's seen in the in the
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: in the in the Bluff Creek, you know, that's on
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: the same mountain Ring range so why not, why wouldn't that.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: Be wings You can look at it too, man. I'd
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: imagine for at least a good part of that forty
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: three years in which you spoke to know when you
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: felt as if it was a bad thing. You know
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: what I mean that you're seeing it because you couldn't
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: tell nobody. But now I'm sure it's a bit of
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: elation where you're like, no, I'm not alone. I don't
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: feel insane, even though my brother. I'm sure your brother
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: maybe you talked about it later in life at something. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: at some point I'm specially being twins. Yeah, you guys
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: have the same beard and hat.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: To We have the same hat I actually had. I
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: got my hat first and then he decided to buy his.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: He's got a full beard and stuff. Now, okay, I
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: used to have a full beard, but I shaved it,
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: That's what I did. It looks all scraggly on the
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: side of I don't do it. Yeah, Curtis, thank you
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: so much, buddy for coming on and talking to me.
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  Speaker 3: This is yeah, I enjoy I do too, man, I
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: do to this time. Man, you had a role I
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: I told you in the Greenom I say, hey, man,
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: just be specific and go and set it all. And
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: you I felt like I was there when you said
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: when you said these things then stood up and all
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: of a sudden I realized I like felt that, dude,
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  Speaker 3: And uh, I think you did a great job.
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  Speaker 2: Man. I'm not even I'm not even a storyteller whatsoever.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: I don't like standing in front of people. I don't
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: like being even on TV.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: Is not I can tell. Man, I'm honestly, I'm I'm
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: a I'm a stand up man. I'm around people all
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: the time this kind of and I can tell. So
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: there's there's a thing you can tell where you're like,
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: this is this is uh, this is this is genuine
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: and yeah, so I guess you know. The guys go
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: over and check out the big Foot believers and other creatures.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks shout out to Daryl Denton and m Keith Davis
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 3: and and a like over there. Uh, Curtis, thanks for
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: reaching out to me today, man, and all the best
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: of you.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, buddy, Yeah, thank you very much for having me.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: It's been my it's been all my pleasure. All right, guys,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: we are the I we are
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  Speaker 2: Aware of love y'all.