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Episode #3950 The New Phil Hendrie Show Radio Archive July 2002 · The World of Phil Hendrie

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Speaker 1: Hi, it's Phil Hendry.
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Speaker 2: Welcome to another Radio Archive Hour from our Radio Hall
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Speaker 2: of Fame show and website at philhendryshow.com. This is a
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Speaker 2: character named Roland Schwinn, who went through a couple of
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Speaker 2: incarnations until he finally became Don Berman, the Channel 19
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Speaker 2: news anchor. But originally, he was at the group called
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Speaker 2: Fat Pride. In this particular hour, Roland is the headmaster
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Speaker 2: of a school that is a year-round school where they
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Speaker 2: are trying to re-educate the parents of and the kids.
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Speaker 2: Because what happened during the summer of 2002, there were
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Speaker 2: some high profile cases of parents killing children. And as
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Speaker 2: it turned out, Roland, I don't mean to laugh, but
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Speaker 2: Roland and other parents like him understood the need to
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Speaker 2: do that because the kids were Making them jealous. The
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Speaker 2: kids were coming home with good grades. The kids were
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Speaker 2: talking about going to Mars someday. The kids were talking
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Speaker 2: about these lives that they would have, incredible lives that
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Speaker 2: the parents themselves would never have. And so Roland himself
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Speaker 2: found himself one day tempted to just, he and his
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Speaker 2: son in a car, just drive the two of them off.
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Speaker 1: Of a cliff. So that's where the laughs begin on
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Speaker 1: this one. And yes, it is funny.
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Speaker 3: It's weird.
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Speaker 2: It's Roland Schwinn, a character who eventually, as I say,
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Speaker 2: became Don Berman, but I kind of like him here
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Speaker 2: as the headmaster of a school. a guy who wants
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Speaker 2: to kill his own kid because his kid's going to go.
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Speaker 1: To Mars someday.
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Speaker 2: Roland Schwinn is the headmaster of Manor Academy that's in
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Speaker 2: Dana Point, which is a rather exclusive school, and we
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Speaker 2: appreciate you being on with us, Mr. Schwinn, to talk
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Speaker 2: about it and to talk about how we can prevent
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Speaker 2: this phenomenon. And a lot of it, I guess, has
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Speaker 2: to do with summer months and.
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Speaker 1: Other things, correct?
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Speaker 3: Indeed, Phil, I don't think there's been a better time
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Speaker 3: than now for year-round schooling. And I think that with
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Speaker 3: these very tragic circumstances, the deaths, the murders of these children,
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Speaker 3: the question really needs to be asked. Has there ever
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Speaker 3: been a better time for year-round schooling? The longer children
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Speaker 3: stay in school and away from their parents, the better
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Speaker 3: their chances are of staying alive until Labor Day.
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Speaker 1: Well, why... Okay.
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Speaker 2: This has to do with parents and the proximity of
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Speaker 2: children in the home?
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Speaker 3: Yes.
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Speaker 1: How so?
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Speaker 3: Well, a parent's inclination to kill a child is partially
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Speaker 3: born from a sense that they may not be getting
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Speaker 3: a return on their investment. Now, you spend almost a
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Speaker 3: quarter of a million dollars on raising children from birth
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Speaker 3: to the year 18. June rolls around. And believe me, Phil,
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Speaker 3: I've seen this with parents that I've spoken with. June
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Speaker 3: will roll around. And you get a look at the
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Speaker 3: report cards from the preceding school year, and what are
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Speaker 3: you looking at? If the grades are good, you see
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Speaker 3: a child who you begin thinking that perhaps is achieving
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Speaker 3: more than you, and you become jealous.
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Speaker 1: If the kid's grades are good, the parent becomes jealous.
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Speaker 3: Many do, yes. And if the grades are bad, then
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Speaker 3: you begin thinking you're being taken for a ride.
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Speaker 1: By ride, what do you mean?
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Speaker 3: You're spending, I know at Manor Academy, the average tuition
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Speaker 3: is $ 9, 000 a year.
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Speaker 1: That's in a private school.
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Speaker 3: Yes. You spend that kind of money on a kid
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Speaker 3: and he comes home with bad grades? You think someone's
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Speaker 3: taking you for a joy ride. And it's not anything
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Speaker 3: that I think parents suffer very, very well.
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Speaker 1: All right, what does all of this have to do
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Speaker 1: with summer vacation, though?
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Speaker 3: When you couple all of that with the fact that
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Speaker 3: they are in your face for three months straight, that's
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Speaker 3: like putting a match to a can of gasoline. So
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Speaker 3: the summer months, Phil, become the American version of Cambodia's
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Speaker 3: killing fields without all of the historical romance.
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Speaker 2: So parents are killing their kids not from depression or
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Speaker 2: postnatal baby blues or a simple psychosis.
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Speaker 3: No, parents are killing their children because more and more
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Speaker 3: they get what raising a child is all about, a
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Speaker 3: very large expenditure of money. loss of freedom, the possibility
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Speaker 3: of being socially lower than them when they do succeed,
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Speaker 3: or you're being taken for a ride. In my own life,
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Speaker 3: and I've been an educator for 30 years... Let.
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Speaker 1: Me interrupt you.
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Speaker 2: It's hard for me to imagine a parent looking at
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Speaker 2: a kid's report card... and thinking the kid is taking
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Speaker 2: them for a ride, which basically says the kid's getting
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Speaker 2: bad grades on purpose just to see how much money
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Speaker 2: they can suck out of mom and dad for an education.
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Speaker 3: That is the thinking, yes.
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Speaker 1: No, but do you think the kids are doing that?
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Speaker 3: No, I don't think the children are doing that. I
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Speaker 3: think when you put out that kind of money... You
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Speaker 3: want to see some return on the investment.
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Speaker 1: But when the kid comes home with good grades, then
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Speaker 1: the parent's jealous.
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Speaker 3: Yes, many parents are jealous. Let me give you an example, Phil,
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Speaker 3: from my experience.
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Speaker 1: See, that just sounds weird.
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Speaker 3: Let me give you an example from my experience. I
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Speaker 3: have a mid-level administrative job at a variety of schools.
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Speaker 3: Now here comes my son, who got a job in
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Speaker 3: a medical research department at UCLA. He has a chance
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Speaker 3: to make some real strides. And when I heard about this,
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Speaker 3: I have to tell you, it sort of pissed me off.
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Speaker 1: That you had been a mid-level educator, administrator.
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Speaker 2: Mid-level administrator of education.
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Speaker 3: My son works in the research department. Why was I
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Speaker 3: slaving at this dead-end job while my son is poised
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Speaker 3: to tear it up in higher education? And I had
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Speaker 3: to deal with this?
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Speaker 1: Well, you're telling me then you thought of killing your
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Speaker 1: own son?
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Speaker 3: I'm not saying I thought of killing him, but when
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Speaker 3: it got bad, I remember driving. I'll tell you where
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Speaker 3: I was. It was about two years ago. He had
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Speaker 3: gotten this job at UCLA. I was driving... toward the beach,
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Speaker 3: and I remember, Phil, as if it was yesterday, my
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Speaker 3: hand on the door handle. And I was speeding toward
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Speaker 3: a bend in the road. And below that bend was
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Speaker 3: a good 500-foot drop until you hit a dry river bottom.
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Speaker 3: And I still remember thinking, you can open the door,
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Speaker 3: you can jump out, and he goes sailing over the side.
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Speaker 1: You thought of killing your own son that way.
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Speaker 3: I felt that, and thank God I didn't act on it.
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Speaker 2: But you were thinking about opening the door and jumping
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Speaker 2: out of your own car?
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Speaker 3: I mean... Phil, the... I'm telling you what I felt,
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Speaker 3: and thank God, because it isn't the kid's fault. It
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Speaker 3: was my inability to deal with his success.
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Speaker 2: Roland Schwinn is an educator, if you'll pardon me for
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Speaker 2: a moment, Roland.
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Speaker 3: Certainly.
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Speaker 1: He's an educator.
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Speaker 2: And he says that one of the reasons why kids
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Speaker 2: are getting killed is it's the summertime, there's a lot
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Speaker 2: of proximity between parent and kid, and the parent is
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Speaker 2: reminded of how much money they're spending on the kid.
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Speaker 1: And it's making them kill their kids, is essentially what
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Speaker 1: you're saying.
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Speaker 3: Yes. Yes, in some cases, yes it is.
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Speaker 2: Let's take these specific cases, the woman who drowns all
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Speaker 2: five of her kids, the man who stabbed his kids,
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Speaker 2: and the woman who killed herself and her kids.
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Speaker 3: Yes.
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Speaker 2: These parents, you're telling me, schools out summer vacation.
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Speaker 3: Kids up in your face for three months you looked
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Speaker 3: at a report card that was bad you looked at
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Speaker 3: a report card that was good you see that the
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Speaker 3: kid may be more successful you see that the kid's
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Speaker 3: taking you financially for a ride i'm telling you i
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Speaker 3: thought about leaping out of.
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Speaker 2: My own car and sending your kid to a fiery
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Speaker 2: death over a cliff that is exactly right well you
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Speaker 2: mentioned being taken for is that the other side of
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Speaker 2: it roland being taken for a ride.
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Speaker 3: My daughter we sent her to private school we paid
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Speaker 3: for tutors we paid for extra classes I got a
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Speaker 3: look at a report card and there she is pulling
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Speaker 3: a 2-0 and I suddenly realized she was taking me
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Speaker 3: for a joyride spending my money hanging on the phone
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Speaker 3: going out with her girlfriends or this guy she knows
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Speaker 3: who has a motorcycle and I thought about just a
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Speaker 3: little tap with a crescent.
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Speaker 1: Wrench a tap with a crescent wrench yeah.
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Speaker 3: I was unplugging a drain in her bathroom and I
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Speaker 3: remember she was standing there with her back to me
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Speaker 3: And I remember thinking, just a tap, and my problems.
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Speaker 2: But it's none of these kids' fault. That is correct.
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Speaker 1: 1-800-449-8686, 1-800-449-8686.
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Speaker 2: A unique view into children, education, and perhaps domestic violence
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Speaker 2: with Roland Schwinn, who's the headmaster of a private school
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Speaker 2: in Dana Point. And he himself has admitted to having
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Speaker 2: these feelings toward his kids that, well, it's summertime, they're
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Speaker 2: in my face... It's summertime. They got bad grades. They
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Speaker 2: got good grades. Why am I spending my money? Why
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Speaker 2: are they taking me for a ride? I wanted to
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Speaker 2: ask you something. The kid who does well because of
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Speaker 2: the jealous parent, okay, how do you save them?
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Speaker 1: How do you protect them?
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Speaker 3: Well, I think, Philly, it keeps the child from overachieving.
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Speaker 3: It keeps the child overachieving out of your face, and
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Speaker 3: it's a lot better than them constantly being there. The
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Speaker 3: bottom line is parents and kids are spending too much
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Speaker 3: time together.
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Speaker 1: That's what you think.
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Speaker 3: That is correct.
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Speaker 1: You know, it used to be, Mr.
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Speaker 2: Schwinn, it used to be that they complained because parents
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Speaker 2: and kids weren't spending enough time together.
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Speaker 3: That's correct. And now they're finding out that that's an
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Speaker 3: invitation to horror. And I've never been a big fan
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Speaker 3: of Bush and his family value crusade, and I never
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Speaker 3: will be, because all that togetherness is making the parents jealous, suffocated, angry,
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Speaker 3: and they feel cheated.
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Speaker 1: What is the message for kids?
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Speaker 3: Well, I think the message for children is two things.
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Speaker 3: Do well in school, otherwise your parents are going to
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Speaker 3: get the idea that you're taking them for a ride,
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Speaker 3: and they'll get angry. And then if you do well,
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Speaker 3: stop with running through the door, waving the report card
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Speaker 3: of the test, and saying, look at what I did.
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Speaker 3: Look at how good I am. Because that pisses parents off, too.
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Speaker 3: And there's a little poem that you can recite to
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Speaker 3: yourself if you get angry. And you as a parent,
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Speaker 3: when a child runs through the door.
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Speaker 2: Certainly children are going to run through the door with you.
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Speaker 1: A good report card.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely. And it pisses, and I know it could piss
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Speaker 3: off a parent.
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Speaker 2: It's difficult for me to imagine a parent that gets
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Speaker 2: angry at a kid with a good report card, but
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Speaker 2: they're jealous.
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Speaker 3: They're jealous, yes. Roses are red, violets are blue, what
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Speaker 3: am I mad about? And just like that. Your anger
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Speaker 3: has dissipated, but let's keep working for year-round schools. I
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Speaker 3: believe it will save lives.
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Speaker 2: All right, headmaster of the Banner Academy in Data Point,
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Speaker 2: Roland Schwinn.
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Speaker 1: Kids are dying. They're being murdered by their parents because.
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Speaker 2: They're doing either too well or too poorly in school,
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Speaker 2: and it's summertime, and they're up in their parents' faces,
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Speaker 2: and nobody can deal with anybody. I can understand maybe
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Speaker 2: a parent getting upset with a kid who brings home
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Speaker 2: a bad report card, but bringing home a good report card,
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Speaker 2: one would think a parent would be overjoyed with.
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Speaker 1: Mr.
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Speaker 2: Schwinn says that makes a parent jealous. 1-800-449-8686, Phil Henry Show.
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Speaker 1: Here's Phil Hendry, 1-800-449-8686. With Roland Schwinn.
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Speaker 2: The headmaster of Manor Academy, we're talking about these children
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Speaker 2: being murdered by their parents this summer. Are you saying
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Speaker 2: that year-round, are you, let me ask you this, Mr. Schwinn,
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Speaker 2: are you the headmaster of a year-round school?
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Speaker 3: Yes, I am.
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Speaker 1: Manor Academy's year-round?
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Speaker 3: Yes, it is.
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Speaker 2: So obviously, if, for instance, I were to put my kids,
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Speaker 2: or not me, but somebody were to put their kids
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Speaker 2: in your school year-round, what are you saying?
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Speaker 3: What am I saying? I'm saying they get a phenomenal education,
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Speaker 3: and the possibility that some harm would befall those children
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Speaker 3: would be eliminated. And so, yes, I suppose that if
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Speaker 3: they put their children, for instance, in our school, you
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Speaker 3: would not be tempted to murder your children, and I'm
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Speaker 3: not saying that you would. But let's say you wanted
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Speaker 3: to murder your children, it would be less likely.
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Speaker 1: Less likely to murder the kids.
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Speaker 3: Because they're in a year-round school and they are not
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Speaker 3: there underfoot.
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Speaker 2: All right, this sounds like it's the parents that got
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Speaker 2: the problem.
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Speaker 3: Oh, they definitely have the problem. I'm trying to save
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Speaker 3: the lives of children from being... I almost killed my
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Speaker 3: own son by driving him off a cliff, so I
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Speaker 3: can relate to this kind of pressure.
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Speaker 1: Okay, 1-800-449-8686. Phil Henry's show here with Pat. You're on
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Speaker 1: the air. Go ahead, Pat.
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Speaker 4: Yes, this person, this... schoolmaster here.
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Speaker 3: Anyone who would send their.
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Speaker 4: Children to his school would have to be out of
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Speaker 4: their minds. The man should be arrested.
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Speaker 3: Do you know anything about our school?
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Speaker 4: I know that I'm listening to you talking about you
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Speaker 4: wanted to kill your son and you wanted to kill
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Speaker 4: your daughter. I never heard of such nonsense.
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Speaker 3: I'm saying that in some families I never did obviously
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Speaker 3: kill my son or my daughter.
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Speaker 4: Of course not.
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Speaker 3: I'm saying in some families it is understandable what with
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Speaker 3: children home for three months, the pressures that parents put
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Speaker 3: themselves under, not the children doing it, but suddenly the parents...
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Speaker 3: Do you have children? Let's start at the beginning. Do
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Speaker 3: you have children?
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Speaker 4: Yes, and I... Well, do you.
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Speaker 3: Have them now, or are you a grandmother?
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Speaker 4: Excuse me, yes, I'm a grandmother.
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Speaker 3: All right. Didn't you ever get jealous of a child
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Speaker 3: who brought home a baby?
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Speaker 4: Never, never in a million years. I'm proud that my
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Speaker 4: children have been educated.
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Speaker 3: You never got jealous.
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Speaker 4: They're doing much better than we ever did.
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Speaker 3: You never got jealous?
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Speaker 2: Why?
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Speaker 3: Because they're going to do better than you could ever do.
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Speaker 4: I raised them to be better than... Well, what about.
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Speaker 3: And what about the.
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Speaker 1: Let me ask her. Pat, this is Phil Henry. Did
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Speaker 1: you ever.
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Speaker 2: Feel like your kids were taking you for a joyride
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Speaker 2: if they were spending your money on tuition and not
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Speaker 2: getting good grades?
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Speaker 4: My God! Well, first of all, nobody's forced to do that.
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Speaker 4: You do that because you want your children to have
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Speaker 4: a good education. And I'll tell you one thing, they
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Speaker 4: would never go to that gentleman's school, and I use
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Speaker 4: the term loosely.
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Speaker 3: Excuse me, but you know nothing of our school.
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Speaker 4: I know nothing about school?
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Speaker 3: You know nothing of our school. And you certainly can't
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Speaker 3: make that comment. I don't have to know anything about
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Speaker 3: your school. as one of the top 300 private schools
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Speaker 3: K-12 in America.
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Speaker 4: But listening to you, listening to you mouth off about
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Speaker 4: parents being jealous of their kids, three months of summer
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Speaker 4: vacation isn't something that was just invented. It's been going
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Speaker 4: on since the year one.
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Speaker 3: But suddenly they're getting jealous because things are better now.
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Speaker 4: No, I'm sorry.
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Speaker 3: You're mistaken. They know their kids are going to go
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Speaker 3: to Mars and places like that, but they've never been.
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Speaker 3: And they get jealous.
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Speaker 1: And want to drive their kids off a cliff?
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Speaker 4: No way.
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Speaker 5: No way.
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Speaker 4: This man is out of his mind.
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Speaker 3: Is the name Pat, correct? Yes. Do you know that
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Speaker 3: your children could go to Mars or to some other planet?
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Speaker 3: Isn't that wonderful? You'll never get to do that. Do
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Speaker 3: I care?
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Speaker 4: Do I want to go to Mars? My God, I'm
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Speaker 4: still on a rotary telephone here.
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Speaker 3: Well, I would suggest you get into the 20th century.
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Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, no.
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Speaker 4: I think you need to learn a few things.
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Speaker 3: You've never wanted to go to Mars.
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Speaker 1: Why?
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Speaker 3: To travel to another planet.
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Speaker 1: Well, when you say going to Mars, Mr. Schwinn, are
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Speaker 1: you talking about just the.
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Speaker 3: The natural progression of our society. Pat doesn't seem to
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Speaker 3: want to be a part of that. And I'm saying
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Speaker 3: that her children someday will go to Pluto.
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Speaker 4: No, you're wrong. I would be very happy if things
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Speaker 4: got that far and my children.
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Speaker 3: Could do that. You never looked at your kid with
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Speaker 3: his great grades, his hot girlfriend, his new bike, and
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Speaker 3: then you looked at your own life? I would never
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Speaker 3: even consider thinking like that. And then you look at
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Speaker 3: your own life and you're staring into a black hole.
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Speaker 4: And that didn't happen to you?
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Speaker 1: No, I'm not.
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Speaker 4: I'm not staring into a black hole.
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Speaker 1: You don't know this woman's life.
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Speaker 3: Compared to her children, you never thought about taking your
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Speaker 3: belt and placing it around your kid's neck. Never, never.
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Speaker 4: We don't believe in hitting our children.
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Speaker 3: I'm just talking about thinking about it. I didn't say
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Speaker 3: do it.
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Speaker 1: Well, this is the thing that I'm getting.
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Speaker 2: You're saying that the fantasy of killing your kid exists
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Speaker 2: because you're jealous of them, because.
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Speaker 1: You feel like.
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Speaker 4: No, he's out of his mind.
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Speaker 1: Is that what you're saying?
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Speaker 3: I'm saying that it is normal.
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Speaker 1: Let's talk about a father who actually.
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Speaker 4: Do you think that's normal?
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Speaker 1: That's not normal.
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Speaker 4: Do you think these people that killed all these kids
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Speaker 4: are normal?
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Speaker 3: No, no. No, no, no, no, no. I'm saying... It's
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Speaker 3: something that we're failing as parents when we want to
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Speaker 3: kill our children. That's what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: No kidding. No way. Well, no kidding. Well, we are
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Speaker 1: failing as parents if we're killing our kids. Yes, we're
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Speaker 1: failing as parents.
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Speaker 3: Well, Pat doesn't agree with that.
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Speaker 4: I think they should put us away.
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Speaker 3: If you killed your children, would you feel you'd failed
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Speaker 3: as a parent?
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Speaker 4: I wouldn't even consider killing a child, let alone my own.
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Speaker 3: But if you did, if, for instance, one day you
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Speaker 3: put Drano in their pudding snacks... Which my wife told
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Speaker 3: me she thought about doing once. You wouldn't feel as if.
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Speaker 1: Your wife? You know, you, uh.
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Speaker 2: It's one thing for you to know your own impulses
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Speaker 2: and have control of them. Your wife is fantasizing about
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Speaker 2: putting Drano in their pudding snacks.
17:05
Speaker 4: He's... Listen, if somebody didn't think of it before, they
17:07
Speaker 4: will now.
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Speaker 1: That's the danger here, Mr.
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Speaker 3: Schwinn.
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Speaker 4: Absolutely, that's the danger.
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Speaker 3: Well, what is your.
17:13
Speaker 4: You think about killing your kids because they're smart?
17:15
Speaker 3: I'm telling you that there is no coincidence with the
17:18
Speaker 3: fact that the children are now out of school... and
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Speaker 3: they're dropping like flies.
17:23
Speaker 4: That's not because they're out of school. This is what
17:27
Speaker 4: happened because these people are out of their minds.
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Speaker 3: It's a coincidence. In other words, the school shootings, when
17:32
Speaker 3: did they take place? During the school year. Duh. The
17:35
Speaker 3: kids are at school. They're pissed off. They shot people. Duh.
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Speaker 4: How do they get out of their homes with guns?
17:42
Speaker 1: That's the bigger question.
17:43
Speaker 4: Where are their parents?
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Speaker 3: I don't... The parents, that's a good question. But we
17:47
Speaker 3: know where these parents are, don't we? They're at the
17:49
Speaker 3: other end of a can of Drano. Well, they should
17:53
Speaker 3: be in jail.
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Speaker 1: All right, Pat.
17:55
Speaker 3: Then you do agree that they should... You know, this
17:57
Speaker 3: could go on all night. No, Pat, then you do
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Speaker 3: agree they should go to jail?
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Speaker 6: The parents?
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Speaker 3: Yes.
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Speaker 4: These people that have killed their children, yes.
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Speaker 3: 75% of all child deaths by parents happen during the summer.
18:11
Speaker 3: We have to take a look at this. Put your
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Speaker 3: children in Manor Academy year-round, save the life of your child.
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Speaker 1: No, I want my.
18:19
Speaker 3: Children to go to school nine months out of the year,
18:23
Speaker 3: and the other three months they would be home with me.
18:25
Speaker 3: Now it's my grandchildren. Home with you, so that you
18:29
Speaker 3: can just conveniently fool with the brakes on the car.
18:31
Speaker 4: I couldn't. That's what you do. That was your idea.
18:38
Speaker 3: I never fooled with the brakes.
18:39
Speaker 1: No, but you had your hand on the handle of
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Speaker 1: the car.
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Speaker 4: Not only that, you were going to jump out and
18:44
Speaker 4: let him go over by himself. That's great. You're a
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Speaker 4: wonderful educator. I must say, I have gotten an education tonight.
18:54
Speaker 1: Pat, thank you very much.
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Speaker 3: I think you misrepresented me.
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Speaker 1: Thank you.
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Speaker 6: 1-800-449-8686.
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Speaker 1: Mr.
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Speaker 2: Schwinn says that the kids are dying during the summer,
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Speaker 2: being murdered by their parents because the parents think they're
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Speaker 2: being taken for a joyride, paying all that tuition for
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Speaker 2: bad grades.
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Speaker 1: Phil Henry Show, coming back.
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Speaker 3: 1-800-449-8686.
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Speaker 6: And now, Phil Henry.
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Speaker 3: Mr.
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Speaker 1: Henry, you mentioned that one of your.
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Speaker 3: Eldest cats, a little bit of a crush. On the vacation?
19:30
Speaker 2: Our eldest son met a girl on the ship and
19:34
Speaker 2: had a little bit of a... Yeah, they had an infatuation.
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Speaker 3: Let me ask you, did that make you jealous?
19:41
Speaker 1: Jealous of what?
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Speaker 3: That he is a young boy and the first blush
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Speaker 3: of romance he's experiencing for the first time?
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Speaker 2: Now, I thought, you know, isn't that cool? He's going
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Speaker 2: through what I went through when I was 15, and
19:54
Speaker 2: I wasn't jealous of.
19:55
Speaker 3: Him, no. I mean, I guess... Didn't it make you
19:57
Speaker 3: want to return to those days?
20:00
Speaker 1: To be 15 again?
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Speaker 3: Sure.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it would be cool to be 15 again.
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Speaker 3: Well, this is one of the dynamics we're talking about.
20:06
Speaker 3: And what we are teaching a lot of our parents
20:09
Speaker 3: who are stressed out and feel violent toward their children,
20:13
Speaker 3: many men, what do they do when their own son
20:17
Speaker 3: is getting more ass than they are? And I'm using
20:21
Speaker 3: the crude appellation.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, your language is very crude.
20:24
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but I'm doing that for a purpose, to
20:27
Speaker 3: drive home the emotional aspect of this. How old were
20:30
Speaker 3: you before you got your first piece of ass?
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Speaker 1: I really would rather you not use... language like that, okay?
20:36
Speaker 3: Just go with me, Phil. How old were you when
20:38
Speaker 3: you got your first piece of ass?
20:40
Speaker 2: I really would rather you not use language like that,
20:43
Speaker 2: and for an educator, it's unbelievable.
20:46
Speaker 3: I'm trying to get to the emotion core. How old
20:48
Speaker 3: were you when you got your first piece of ass?
20:50
Speaker 1: You love saying that word, don't you?
20:53
Speaker 3: Will you answer me?
20:54
Speaker 1: I was 19. Jesus. Well, what is that supposed to mean?
20:59
Speaker 3: A little old.
21:02
Speaker 1: Isn't that a little old? That's how old I was.
21:05
Speaker 1: I don't care. I'm not being, uh... I ain't got
21:08
Speaker 1: nothing to prove to you.
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Speaker 3: All right. And here's your son at the age of
21:13
Speaker 3: 15 getting... getting more ass than a rental car. And
21:22
Speaker 3: you don't want to dispose of his lifeless body?
21:28
Speaker 1: No, I don't.
21:29
Speaker 2: And I think it's a really, a crying shame That
21:33
Speaker 2: I give you the truth. That you give me the truth.
21:35
Speaker 2: That you think you're reading the psychology of parents?
21:37
Speaker 3: Yes.
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Speaker 2: If my kid winds up having a sexual encounter with
21:44
Speaker 2: this girl that he met, I can only hope that
21:46
Speaker 2: he does what I asked him to do, which is A, condom, B,
21:50
Speaker 2: don't do it. A, condom, and B, don't do it. Yeah,
21:53
Speaker 2: those two things I told him. I said, don't do it, dude,
21:56
Speaker 2: not while you're young, but if you're going to, put
21:58
Speaker 2: the rubber on. That's what I said, and there you go.
22:00
Speaker 2: Here is Barbara, or hold on, Barbara, for just a second.
22:03
Speaker 2: I've got to go over here to David on the
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Speaker 2: Phil Henry Show.
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Speaker 3: Hello?
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Speaker 5: Hey, what's up?
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Speaker 3: Yes, sir.
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Speaker 5: First of all, I want to tell this meathead on
22:09
Speaker 5: the phone, maybe if he'd have gotten a piece of
22:11
Speaker 5: ass before now, except maybe one that you blow up,
22:14
Speaker 5: he wouldn't be quite the way he is. Well, I
22:16
Speaker 5: was just going to ask the Manson family to call
22:19
Speaker 5: my children and put him in your private school.
22:23
Speaker 3: I beg your pardon?
22:24
Speaker 5: You, sir, are an idiot.
22:25
Speaker 3: I beg your pardon?
22:26
Speaker 5: I would just as soon have the Manson family homeschool
22:29
Speaker 5: my kids as to let you look after them.
22:31
Speaker 3: Well, it takes.
22:31
Speaker 5: Because you, sir, are a complete idiot.
22:33
Speaker 3: Well, it takes one to know one. You know? Yeah.
22:36
Speaker 5: How many kids you got?
22:37
Speaker 3: How many kids do you have?
22:38
Speaker 5: I have three, sir.
22:39
Speaker 3: Do you have three?
22:40
Speaker 5: I have a five-year-old that's smarter than you.
22:42
Speaker 3: Have you ever been to school?
22:43
Speaker 5: I have a five-year-old smarter than you.
22:45
Speaker 3: Do you plan on sending them to school?
22:47
Speaker 5: Yes, I do, sir.
22:48
Speaker 3: You do? Is the five-year-old in kindergarten? Yes, she is.
22:51
Speaker 5: She probably has a higher IQ.
22:52
Speaker 3: And you're telling me they're not driving. You know, all
22:54
Speaker 3: of your insults are very boring. They're not insults. They're
22:58
Speaker 3: really boring.
22:58
Speaker 5: Here you are asking somebody when he got his first
23:01
Speaker 5: piece of ass. What an idiot for an educator to
23:04
Speaker 5: come across like that. You know, and you're sitting here
23:06
Speaker 5: talking about your daughter's grades being good enough that you
23:09
Speaker 5: want to whack her with a wrench or jump out
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Speaker 5: of your car because your son was smarter than you are. You, sir,
23:15
Speaker 5: are a pathetic loser.
23:17
Speaker 3: No, sir, I am sick.
23:18
Speaker 5: And I hope to God that somebody, wherever it is
23:21
Speaker 5: that you teach, maybe it's on Mars. You know, you
23:24
Speaker 5: talk about how much you want to go to Mars.
23:26
Speaker 5: My kid wouldn't go to Mars because he'd probably meet
23:28
Speaker 5: someone related to you.
23:29
Speaker 3: Well, perhaps your kid won't go to Mars because he'll
23:31
Speaker 3: never be smart enough to be chosen.
23:33
Speaker 5: Well, if he was, he'd probably meet your mother.
23:35
Speaker 3: Because you are an idiot. Oh, so now it's my mother. Yes.
23:39
Speaker 3: You know something? Your intellect... Your intellect.
23:42
Speaker 5: Evidently, your mother did something wrong raising you.
23:46
Speaker 3: Your intellect stoops to the level of attacking my mother.
23:48
Speaker 3: I think your mother probably wanted to hit you with
23:50
Speaker 3: a monkey wrench. This explains the increase in child murders
23:53
Speaker 3: during the summer because parents like you... You can't keep
23:56
Speaker 3: your hands off your kids.
23:57
Speaker 5: If you came from my lawyer, the first thing.
23:59
Speaker 3: I'd do is punch your mother. You'd punch my mother.
24:02
Speaker 5: If you came from my lawyer, there's no way you
24:04
Speaker 5: came from me.
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Speaker 3: I did punch your mother because I'm your father.
24:08
Speaker 2: All right, okay, stupid rednecks. Here is Barbara on the
24:12
Speaker 2: Phil Henry Show.
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Speaker 3: Hello.
24:14
Speaker 4: Hi.
24:14
Speaker 3: Yes, hi.
24:15
Speaker 6: I just want to put my two cents worth in.
24:17
Speaker 6: I've never called a radio show before, but I really
24:22
Speaker 6: have to respond to this man. Thank you for calling me.
24:25
Speaker 6: I think he should see a doctor. I think the
24:27
Speaker 6: man is sick.
24:28
Speaker 3: I agree with everyone that.
24:30
Speaker 6: He certainly should not be in the educational field or
24:34
Speaker 6: anywhere near children.
24:35
Speaker 3: May I ask you a question, madam? Yes. And I
24:38
Speaker 3: want you to understand I'm asking this to get the
24:41
Speaker 3: pure emotional response. Yes. When was your first piece of ass?
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Speaker 2: Okay, that is uncalled for, especially.
24:48
Speaker 1: To a lady.
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Speaker 6: You are really sick. You should see a doctor.
24:52
Speaker 3: You are really sick. You know what?
24:54
Speaker 6: I'd take my wife with me if I were you.
24:56
Speaker 6: Because you are not fit to be parents. You're a
24:59
Speaker 6: threat to your children. Anyone who is jealous of their
25:03
Speaker 6: children's success, you should be happy for them.
25:07
Speaker 1: Who are these parents that are jealous? And you're talking
25:10
Speaker 1: about a kid.
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Speaker 3: I would ask this lady, but she'd probably hang up.
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Speaker 5: No, I'm not going to.
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Speaker 3: Your daughter's breasts are bigger than yours, aren't they? You see,
25:18
Speaker 3: this is.
25:18
Speaker 1: Why is it personal with you? Why is it sexual
25:20
Speaker 1: with you?
25:21
Speaker 6: Are you just on this program to instigate... No, ma'am, I.
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Speaker 3: Am telling you as the headmaster of a school.
25:27
Speaker 6: You know something?
25:27
Speaker 3: As the headmaster of a school.
25:28
Speaker 6: It's almost like you are a joke. You are not
25:31
Speaker 6: for real. You're really a joke.
25:33
Speaker 3: So you think the murder of children is a joke?
25:35
Speaker 3: We've had five dead in Houston.
25:37
Speaker 6: I think when you comment about the murder of your
25:39
Speaker 6: own children, then you're the joke.
25:42
Speaker 3: You're the joke. I am simply saying that I was
25:44
Speaker 3: tempted to push my son out of a moving car. Yes.
25:47
Speaker 6: Well, that's sick. That is very sick. You don't have
25:51
Speaker 6: to be a psychiatrist to realize that's sick.
25:54
Speaker 3: I could ask you, but you wouldn't answer my question.
25:56
Speaker 3: Are your daughter's breasts bigger than you?
25:58
Speaker 1: Don't answer that.
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Speaker 6: That's none of your business.
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Speaker 1: Don't answer that, Barbara.
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Speaker 6: That's none of your business.
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Speaker 3: None of my business, and yet you say you're not
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Speaker 3: jealous of your daughter. Even to the point where you
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Speaker 3: like to.
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Speaker 6: I'm proud. I have two daughters, and I am very,
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Speaker 6: very proud of them.
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Speaker 3: Even to the point where.
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Speaker 6: I'm proud to the point I'm sickening when I talk
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Speaker 6: about them.
26:14
Speaker 3: And when I am.
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Speaker 6: I'm so proud.
26:16
Speaker 3: And you wouldn't want to give one of them a
26:17
Speaker 3: tap with a crescent wrench?
26:19
Speaker 6: Oh, my God. No, I guess I wouldn't.
26:22
Speaker 3: No. God. Are you telling me that.
26:25
Speaker 6: You know, I have never called a program before, but
26:28
Speaker 6: you are so infuriating and so.
26:31
Speaker 2: You know, I was willing to go along with this, Mr. Schwinn,
26:33
Speaker 2: and tell this whole thing about When was your first
26:35
Speaker 2: piece of ass? And all of this crudity.
26:39
Speaker 3: I apologize to the lady, but I had to get
26:41
Speaker 3: to the emotional core of her response. I know a
26:45
Speaker 3: man who had his son circumcised multiple times because he
26:48
Speaker 3: felt the child would grow up to have a longer penis.
26:53
Speaker 1: You're kidding me.
26:54
Speaker 3: No.
26:54
Speaker 2: What doctor would agree to do that, and is he
26:57
Speaker 2: still walking around free?
26:58
Speaker 3: I don't know.
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Speaker 6: You know, I don't believe this man.
27:01
Speaker 1: This guy is a fruit case. An utter, pathetic fruit case.
27:07
Speaker 3: So I guess I'm not going to get an answer
27:10
Speaker 3: to that breast question.
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Speaker 1: No, you're not. I won't let her. I won't let
27:15
Speaker 1: the lady answer.
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Speaker 6: It's a stupid question.
27:18
Speaker 3: I just want to know if there's jealousy.
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Speaker 1: She's already answered that.
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Speaker 3: Would you let me speak with a woman, sir?
27:23
Speaker 2: No, I'm not going to allow this lady to lower
27:25
Speaker 2: herself to answer your stupid question.
27:26
Speaker 1: She already answered the question. Is she proud of her children?
27:30
Speaker 1: She said many times, yes, she is.
27:34
Speaker 3: So they're not like maybe a 38DD? Okay.
27:36
Speaker 1: I'll tell.
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Speaker 6: You, it really is so unreal. I can't help feeling
27:45
Speaker 6: that this has just been contrived.
27:47
Speaker 1: Are you full of crap, Mr. Schwinn?
27:50
Speaker 3: Am I full of crap? And you're the guy that
27:52
Speaker 3: didn't want me using ass.
27:54
Speaker 1: Are you full of crap?
27:56
Speaker 3: Five children were drowned by their mother in Houston. You
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Speaker 3: find that funny? I don't.
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Speaker 6: I don't even know how you can equate any of
28:03
Speaker 6: that to what you're talking about.
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Speaker 1: Thank you for your call.
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Speaker 3: I'll bet you her daughter's breasts are perkier than hers.
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Speaker 2: And so, in other words, she's jealous of that, and
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Speaker 2: she wants to kill her kid. A little tap with
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