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#2200 Australia's No. 1 Biohacker - Lucas Aoun · The You Project

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  Speaker 1: I got a team. It's bloody you project, it's me.
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  Speaker 1: It's half since twelve oh eight on a Thursday, just clicked.
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  Speaker 2: Over into the PM. I wouldn't want to be doing
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  Speaker 2: this in the am.
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  Speaker 1: Neither would Lucas for that matter, because fuck that. We
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  Speaker 1: like sleep. Also, I don't know how well my brain
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  Speaker 1: would work at twelve oh eight in the am. I'm
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  Speaker 1: thinking not that great.
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  Speaker 2: He's maybe different because he's young and full of fucking
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  Speaker 2: everything annoyingly.
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  Speaker 1: Are you when is your first leap? Hi, Lucas how
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  Speaker 1: A Craig? Yeah good, But when's your When is your
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  Speaker 1: peak cognitive stage of the day? When does your brain
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  Speaker 1: work best?
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  Speaker 2: For me?
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  Speaker 3: It's usually eight eight am till twelve midday. I'm like
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  Speaker 3: definitely on fire most energy, particularly if I've done a
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  Speaker 3: solid workout.
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  Speaker 4: In the morning, Like my brain is on like.
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  Speaker 3: Very fully attentive, very you know, come and focused. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that's definitely my best date.
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  Speaker 1: What about working out and you might even want to
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  Speaker 1: break that. My best time for cardio is am. My
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  Speaker 1: best time for strength is kind of mid day to two,
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  Speaker 1: like four. I normally train it four with my partner,
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  Speaker 1: the crab training partner, not life partner. Because that would
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  Speaker 1: be creepy, not because he's a dude, but just because
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  Speaker 1: he's a giant, and I couldn't picture myself spooning him
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  Speaker 1: watching some rom com.
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  Speaker 2: But anyway, I diverse, I diverge.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I feel like I'm my strongest between about
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  Speaker 1: midday and two or three.
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  Speaker 2: What about you?
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  Speaker 3: With the physical, I feel like if I'm pretty loaded
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  Speaker 3: up on carbs and protein, I've had at least one
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  Speaker 3: or two meals, and I'm feeling pretty bloody strong in
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  Speaker 3: the afternoon or in the art later on in the evening. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: but for example, lately, I've just been I've been pretty
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  Speaker 3: obsessed with the good old Staremaster these days, and I've
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  Speaker 3: just been smashing out level sixteen for twenty minutes straight.
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  Speaker 3: So it's pretty bloody fast.
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  Speaker 1: You're either a masochist or extremely fit, not that clever.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to go for the middle option. So just
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  Speaker 1: for the people who don't know, I'm sure most of
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  Speaker 1: my audience do. But stere Master is essentially a revolving staircase,
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  Speaker 1: and to say it's unpleasant is like saying getting kicked
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  Speaker 1: in the dick is not fun. It's depending on and
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  Speaker 1: starts at level one. So I just get on there
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  Speaker 1: and I'm meander at six and then I get up to.
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  Speaker 2: Ten because I'm old.
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  Speaker 1: But even ten it's like it's doable, but it's not
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  Speaker 1: a lot of fun. So you do on level sixteen
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  Speaker 1: you must be all running.
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  Speaker 3: It's basically my heart rate is probably sitting at around
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  Speaker 3: one seventy one sixty eight one.
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  Speaker 2: Seventy for the lab.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't have any research in front of me,
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  Speaker 1: but my guess as an ex scise science bloke is
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  Speaker 1: that for the average punter, in terms of value, energy, expenditure,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, benefit, I think a ten minute hard
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  Speaker 1: ish StairMaster might be more valuable than a thirty minute jog.
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  Speaker 2: For the average person potentially perspective.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the main reason I'm integrating is because I was
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  Speaker 3: I was using the Assault bike like a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and.
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  Speaker 3: I did a I did a VO two Max test
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  Speaker 3: a few weeks ago and it was like fifty fifty three,
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  Speaker 3: and I thought that was pretty good. I was hoping
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  Speaker 3: for a bit better, to be honest, you know, I
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  Speaker 3: got those high standards and then I'm like, oh, I'm
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  Speaker 3: probably missing out on quite a fair bit of longer duration,
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  Speaker 3: you know, aerobic threshold training, and yeah, for me, I'm
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  Speaker 3: just sort of For me, it's just building the rhythm.
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  Speaker 3: Like I find if I've got a good song on,
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  Speaker 3: I've got the rhythm going, like I can get into
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  Speaker 3: the music more than the stand master, and therefore the
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  Speaker 3: stand master feels less painful because I'm focusing on the music.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that is such an interesting and equals one experiment.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because you're kind of getting like part of
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  Speaker 1: it depends on that. I think it depends on the
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  Speaker 1: training I'm doing. But some of it, I want to
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  Speaker 1: be totally in my body. I want to feel every
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  Speaker 1: fucking rep and stretch and movement. But with other stuff
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  Speaker 1: I want to get out of my body. I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: fuck this this is horrible. I want to do it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to finish it, but I want to transcend
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  Speaker 1: the physiology of the moment. I want to transcend this pain.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, that's not the worst idea I think. Also,
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  Speaker 1: so do you know something that I didn't know? I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if you know this, but I only found
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  Speaker 1: this the other day that the majority of people of cyclists,
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  Speaker 1: kind of semi serious to serious cyclists have lower than
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  Speaker 1: average bone density.
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  Speaker 2: Did you know that.
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  Speaker 3: Cyclist in particular because they're not doing the weight bearing cyclists.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so you would think still they're cranking it out,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, like I've got a lot of mates
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  Speaker 1: who ride basically five days a week, probably probably on
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  Speaker 1: average forty to fifty so they're doing two to two
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  Speaker 1: hundred and fifty k's. I mean, these are not Olympians,
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  Speaker 1: but it's a lot lower than average.
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  Speaker 2: Where I see, I learned a new thing this week.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, it's not weight bearing per se unless you're
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  Speaker 1: up out of the pedals.
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  Speaker 3: Also, I don't think I don't think the StairMaster would
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  Speaker 3: be that effective for the weight bearing because it's there
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  Speaker 3: isn't much impact, not a huge time of impact, there's.
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  Speaker 1: A bit, and also it's kind of moving under you
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  Speaker 1: and you're just trying to keep up.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 2: It's not totally analogous to walking actual stairs.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, I have this. I think I said this
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  Speaker 1: once before. Right, Have you ever used a weight vest?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Actually Finnally, I actually bought one in when I was
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  Speaker 3: living in Dubai. Actually bought one when I was there. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: the sweltering heat plus the weighted vests, wasn't it a
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  Speaker 3: good combination.
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  Speaker 2: No, I bought. I have three.
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  Speaker 1: I have like a light one which goes up to
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  Speaker 1: let's just use pounds, forty pounds, another one that goes
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  Speaker 1: up to eighty and then this is not a word
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  Speaker 1: of a lie. I have another one that goes to
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  Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty nine pounds.
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  Speaker 2: Oh wow, And it's from the States, and it's like
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  Speaker 2: something you would wear in you know, of military training. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it looks military. And so there's all these little three
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  Speaker 2: pound discs.
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  Speaker 1: So what is that thirty Maybe it's one for I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what it is, but these it adds up
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  Speaker 1: to just I think it's one thirty nine and it
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  Speaker 1: might be one forty. So one day I put Firstly,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't think about this. All I was thinking about
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  Speaker 1: was how far can I walk with this on? What
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  Speaker 1: I didn't anticipate was how the fuck do I get
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  Speaker 1: it on? Like, how do I get a sixty five
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  Speaker 1: kilo thing?
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  Speaker 2: You need to fork with that, dude. So I had to.
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  Speaker 2: I had to. I found.
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  Speaker 1: I went on my kitchen bench and I laid it
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  Speaker 1: long ways, so I had half the weight, so seventy
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  Speaker 1: pounds on the bench, and then I had seventy pounds,
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  Speaker 1: So I had to put my head in the hole
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  Speaker 1: and then try and get seventy pounds over my head
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  Speaker 1: and on my back.
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  Speaker 4: That's heavy.
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  Speaker 1: And then I stood up and like my body just went,
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  Speaker 1: whatever you're doing, this is not a good idea, because
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  Speaker 1: I could just feel every disk being compressed right, And
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  Speaker 1: I have an eight hundred meters block around where I lived. Like,
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  Speaker 1: if I just walk out the gate, turn left, left, left, left, get.
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  Speaker 2: Home, it's eight hundred meters, dude.
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  Speaker 1: I I it was one of the hardest things I've
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  Speaker 1: done because it's literally just like walking with a human being, ah,
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  Speaker 1: sitting on your neck.
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  Speaker 2: And I didn't want to stop because.
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  Speaker 1: My ego is too big, and I didn't want anyone
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  Speaker 1: to go, oh, that's fucking Craigarp.
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  Speaker 2: It looks like he's about to have a heart attack.
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  Speaker 1: And I got home and I couldn't get the fucking
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  Speaker 1: thing off for about three minutes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, that was hard.
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  Speaker 1: So that's my advice to anyone who's going to use
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  Speaker 1: a weight vest or similar start with of course there's
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  Speaker 1: a big variance, but don't start with more than ten k's,
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  Speaker 1: even five k's if you're not real strong, male or female,
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  Speaker 1: because it's you know, like, if you weigh fifty and
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  Speaker 1: you put on ten, we've just increased your body weight
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  Speaker 1: by twenty percent temporarily.
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  Speaker 3: You know what you know it's really crazy about that, Craig,
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  Speaker 3: is that when it actually tricks your body's metabolism. And
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  Speaker 3: there's actually research where when you wear a weighted vest
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  Speaker 3: for a prolonged period of time, even when you stop
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  Speaker 3: wearing it, the body has adapted, adapted, and it's created
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  Speaker 3: all these beneficial metabolic changes.
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  Speaker 4: Thinking that you're heavier than what you actually are.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really Like I say this to people like
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  Speaker 1: some of my friends who are carrying some weight and
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  Speaker 1: they're a bit sad about it or a bit flat
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  Speaker 1: about it, and I go it like half joking but serious,
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  Speaker 1: and I say, well, here's the thing. If you're one
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  Speaker 1: hundred k's and you go for a walk with your
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  Speaker 1: skinny friend and you do the same walk at the
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  Speaker 1: same pace so that you do five k's and takes
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  Speaker 1: you an hour, we've just burned or expended a shitload
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  Speaker 1: more energy slash calories than them because you're doing the
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  Speaker 1: same thing with much more weight.
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  Speaker 2: So you know, there's there's that there's.
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  Speaker 1: A benefit to that too, But yeah, it's it's one
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  Speaker 1: of those things where it's a little bit of trial
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  Speaker 1: and error.
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  Speaker 2: But I try to do I do most weeks.
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  Speaker 4: I do.
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  Speaker 2: This sounds like in value as in no value.
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  Speaker 1: But I do three two minutes two k three two
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  Speaker 1: k runs, so two k's if I'm running for me
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  Speaker 1: reasonably quick, which is for me, I'm saying the sixty
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  Speaker 1: two year old bloke, I run ten minutes, so two
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  Speaker 1: five minute case so a go at the side gate,
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  Speaker 1: run ten minutes, get home. And those that those three
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  Speaker 1: sessions of ten minutes per week, they keep my my
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what my VO two max is.
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  Speaker 4: I think it'd be pretty good because they are just
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  Speaker 4: for age, don't they.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I haven't had it done for a while.
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  Speaker 1: But it's like if if someone came in right now
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  Speaker 1: and said, mate, you've got to go run eight k's
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  Speaker 1: or your life depends on it. I know I could
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  Speaker 1: run out kase I don't want to.
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't enjoy it. I wouldn't do it. Well, i'd
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  Speaker 2: fucking hate it.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't know what I weighed when we met,
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  Speaker 1: but I weigh seventy eight kilos now, So this is
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  Speaker 1: the skinniest I've ever been as an adult.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, I'm seventy eight k's.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, makes chin ups relatively easy, I will say, but
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  Speaker 1: you know, and so being quite having a fair bit
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  Speaker 1: of muscle but.
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  Speaker 2: Also being very lean.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's even adjusting to your new kind of physiology.
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  Speaker 1: Like when COVID happened, I just started walking more. And
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  Speaker 1: also I had a prompt from my phone a couple
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  Speaker 1: of years ago that basically said you're fat. You don't
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  Speaker 1: walk much, and it said like you're averaging. It was
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  Speaker 1: fuck all. I think it was four and a half
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  Speaker 1: thousand steps and I went, that's it. So I'm never
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  Speaker 1: going to do less than ten, barring some kind of catastrophe.
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  Speaker 1: So every day since that day, I've done you know,
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  Speaker 1: on average, I guess twelve or thirteen.
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  Speaker 2: But that makes a difference for me as well.
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  Speaker 1: And I didn't change anything, but I lost I think
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  Speaker 1: I lost seven k's and I wasn't you know, I
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  Speaker 1: wasn't that to begin.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, it's underrated fat loss exercise because it's so effortless.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and I make phone calls, I do emails,
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  Speaker 1: I try not to get run over.
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  Speaker 2: I use my voice to text or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: It is a listener podcasts, you know, So for me,
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  Speaker 1: it's an opportunity to get stuff done.
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  Speaker 2: Also get out of my house.
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  Speaker 1: Also walk because I walk in as much as I
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  Speaker 1: can in nature.
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  Speaker 2: I walked. The beach is eight hundred meters from me,
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  Speaker 2: so I'm literally walking in soft sand.
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  Speaker 1: Take my shoes off, walking soft sand, and it's you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's kind of multitasking.
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  Speaker 3: But I was going I was going to jump on
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  Speaker 3: the treadmill. I've got a treadmill desk right knear me, Craig,
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  Speaker 3: I was going to do this podcast on the treadmill.
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  Speaker 4: Actually, before you mentioned that you could have done it.
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  Speaker 4: I've done a cup.
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  Speaker 3: I've done a few, but it's when i'm really highly energetic. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: when I've got a lot in the tank. It's like
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  Speaker 3: I've had a big weeks. I'm just conserving myself.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, all right, so I want to go through some
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  Speaker 1: stuff with you. As we said before, feel free to
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  Speaker 1: back and forward to ask me some questions. But before
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  Speaker 1: we jump in, everybody, I know it probably don't need
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  Speaker 1: to say it, but I'm going to say it. If
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  Speaker 1: you're new to the show, none of what we're sharing
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  Speaker 1: is I guess a prescription. We're not recommending you do anything.
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  Speaker 1: We're just talking about what we do and what Lucas
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  Speaker 1: is doing and what I'm doing. And this is an
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  Speaker 1: episode full of opinions and ideas and thoughts. So go
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  Speaker 1: see your exercise physiologist or your dietitian, or your doctor
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  Speaker 1: or your specialist if you actually want to get specific
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  Speaker 1: to your advice. Having said that, I'm also a fan
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  Speaker 1: of the idea that you don't need to be a
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  Speaker 1: scientist to be scientific. You can try stuff. You could go,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, I'm going to walk ten thousand steps
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  Speaker 1: a day for one week and see how I feel
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  Speaker 1: and see what that does. I don't think you need
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  Speaker 1: a prescription for that. If you are medically compromised, then
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  Speaker 1: maybe you do. But in general terms, I think doing
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of self experimenting in a simple way
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  Speaker 1: is good because there's nothing to say. You can't try something,
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  Speaker 1: collect the data, interpret the data, and go I think
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  Speaker 1: this is actually good for me, so I might do
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  Speaker 1: another week of it. I think sometimes in this space
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  Speaker 1: of self regulation and management and human optimization, we make
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  Speaker 1: it harder than it needs to be.
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  Speaker 2: So I was going to ask.
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  Speaker 1: You, so you're a You're a You're at a function, right,
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  Speaker 1: You and your girl are at a functions a bunch.
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  Speaker 2: Of people that you don't know. You bump into some
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  Speaker 2: bloke and the bloke.
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  Speaker 1: Goes, what do you do mate? What is the answer
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  Speaker 1: to that question? Yeah, because no one knows who you
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  Speaker 1: are there, You're just another dude.
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  Speaker 2: What do you do? Well?
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  Speaker 3: Ultimately, what I do is I share cutting edge health
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  Speaker 3: information that people can implement into their lifestyle. So I'm
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  Speaker 3: kind of like a hybrid between a naturopath and a biohacker.
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  Speaker 4: So that's kind of like what I do on a
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  Speaker 4: daily basis.
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  Speaker 3: I'm very in the weeds of the latest scientific research
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  Speaker 3: on supplements, on nutrition, on exercise, and I like to
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  Speaker 3: to share that with the world and help to educate.
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  Speaker 4: People on a mass, mass scale.
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  Speaker 2: I've never heard of a biohacker common what's a biohacker?
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  Speaker 3: So I a bi hacker is really just someone who
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  Speaker 3: will manipulate their environment the tools around them to optimize
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  Speaker 3: their health. So it might be deliberately, you know, sleeping
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  Speaker 3: eight hours a night. It might be wearing those blue
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  Speaker 3: light blocker glasses before bed to help with your sleep
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  Speaker 3: and your malatonin production. It might be intermittent fasting. So
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  Speaker 3: basically by hacking or a bio hacker is someone who
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  Speaker 3: engages actively engages in sort of like health optimization, you know,
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  Speaker 3: sort of strategies.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just this is very unprofessional. But I'm nut Joe Rogan,
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  Speaker 1: and we don't have Jamie to pull up stuff.
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  Speaker 2: I have Tiff to pull up stuff, but she's not
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  Speaker 2: here today. I saw this thing yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to keep talking to you as I tied.
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  Speaker 1: I have a guy who's VO two max, the highest
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  Speaker 1: VO two max ever measured.
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  Speaker 2: Do you have a guess what it is?
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  Speaker 4: Oh?
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  Speaker 3: When I did mine, the guys, I actually asked a
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  Speaker 3: guy that got mine assessed and he I think he
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  Speaker 3: said it was like ninety something.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's over one hundred. Wow, here we go. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: where's from? Where do you reckon?
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  Speaker 1: Norway triathlete Kristin Blueman felt shout out to Big Chris
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  Speaker 1: one hundred and one point one miller leaders.
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  Speaker 2: Per kilogram per minute.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, like documented verified, it's the first ever documented value
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  Speaker 1: above one hundred. There was a dude also from Norway, Norway.
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what if you want to be fit
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  Speaker 1: moved to Norway or you might have to do what
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  Speaker 1: they do though, a guy called Oscar spenders And who
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  Speaker 1: was a Norwegian cyclist ninety seven point five.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, so I never thought. I didn't. I didn't
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  Speaker 2: even I never thought anyone would break a hundred. But
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  Speaker 2: there was a very.
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  Speaker 1: Famous his name won't come to me because it's old,
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  Speaker 1: but I remember the information.
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  Speaker 4: It was in the sixties.
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  Speaker 1: He was the world holder of the marathon, a record holder.
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  Speaker 2: Of the marathon.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: And I think it was back in the days when
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: you know, like they've just run a sub two hour,
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: which is how the fuck does anyone raised at over
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: twenty one twenty one kilometers per hour plus on a
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: firm surface in variable conditions for two hours.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Now, if the average.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: Person tried to run twenty one point whatever kilometers for
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: fifty meters, we couldn't.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: I'm sure I couldn't.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: You'd probably be able to, but I don't reckon you're
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: doing more than one hundred meters, right, So they're doing
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: that for hours. They're doing that for forty two kilometers,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: so that is crazy.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: But I do remember this guy.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: He had a very high lactate threshold. So his lactate
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: threshold was right up near his VO two max, so
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: he could basically run at VO two max for the
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: entire marathon because he didn't accumulate lactic.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: Acid like normal people do. So that's kind of crazy.
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: There's so many, so many factors that go into like,
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: you know, optimizing VIR two marks.
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: I feel like some people.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: They're genetically they've got like really good lung volume capacity,
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: They've got you know, good good heart pumping capacity, good
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: stroke volume.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I've.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: Never really been super inclined to be just aerobically dominant.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: I want to have the weight, the.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: Muscle strength as well as the aerobic.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: You met, Well, I don't know about you, but I'm
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: definitely not built even though I look more like i'm
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: built for.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: It now, but I'm definitely not built for aerobic endurance.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Although I've done a few halves and a few marathons
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: with clients over the years, but just plodding. But is
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: am I misthinking this is baking soda something that people
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: have used to buffer lactape?
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was actually so. Baking soda has been used
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: for quite some time to help with buffering the hydrogen
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: irons that built up in muscle cells. So basically, the
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: theory is that when you exercise, when you're pushing beyond
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: your body's capacity to clear out lactate and hydrogen, that's
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: what causes fatigue and muscle function declines.
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: Basically.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: Anyway, they started experimenting with sodium bicarbonate and they figured
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: that it has like a pH buffering effect, and then yeah,
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: guys were experimenting with it, I think really like long
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: long time ago.
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: I think nineteen seventies, probably even sixties, and a buffer's
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: lactic acid.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: Then they found better alany and they learn about better
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: alanine doing a similar thing without the gi side effects.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: And I was actually recently just thinking about maybe I
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: should bring in better alanine back into the into my stack,
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: into my daily stack. That's the one that gives you
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: all the tingles around your face?
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, does that is that a vaso dilator or
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: is that?
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: It is. It is the the tingling effect.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: I think a lot of pre workouts used it deliberately
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: to have that effect, to make this to make the
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: consumer think that it's doing something, but it's it just
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: it's a it's a paraesthesia effect.
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: It doesn't really do anything, you know.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: Hey, everyone. I always say it sounds like an ad coming.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Up, doesn't It's not an ad because it's because it's
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: fucking free. But sometimes I'm hesitant to send people to
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: my guests websites because I've checked out their websites before
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: and there's fucking nothing on them. It's like my website,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: it's not that amazing. There's a few things on there,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: but you know, save yourself five minutes. But Lucas's website
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: is invaluable. There is so much amazing shit on there,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: so I'm going.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: To give you that right now.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: And also his YouTube, and this is not a plug
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: for anything, because it's just free, great info. So boost
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: your biology one word. Boost your biology dot com is
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: his website, and there's some really good shit in there.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: But maybe even that is good.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: I'd say, Yeah, the instagram is full of golden nuggets.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: Your audience will love it. Yeah, your biology.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: I was going to say boost your biology on Lucas Owen,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: boost your biology.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: It's spelled ao u.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: N because he's fucking weird anyway, Lucas ao u N.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Boost your biology on YouTube. There's just a heap of
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: great shit on there, and he's just got a lazy
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: ninety five thousand subscribers.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: So, and what's your I haven't got your insted in
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: front of me.
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: What's that Instagram? Is boucha Biology.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: I just changed about four weeks ago to Bouchabology as well.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, your numbers, I've looked at you know what are
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: you over one hundred thousand now on that or something?
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: Getting there?
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Just chipping away.
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: You know, I'm nothing special over here, Craig.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Come on, bro, come on bro.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: I saw some of the people that follow you. I'm like, fuck,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: and how this dude's crushing it? And some of the
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: podcasts you've been on. So just the little humble, little
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: view project over here in Hampton, just the shitkicker of
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: the podcast world, just hands in his pockets, just scuffing
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: his feet along the ground, and.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: Lucas graces me with his presence. All right, let's talk
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: about a few things.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: So snapshot this as much as you can, because I
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: want to get through a fair bit.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: If that's all right.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: New video you've got out called is this pill better
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: than read? A true tide for fat loss? What is
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: the pill of which you speak, grasshopper?
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: Yes, so this is going to be one that I
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: think literally ninety nine percent of your audience has never
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: really heard of and it's actually it's not actually a
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: supplement and it's not even available for purchase yet. It's
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: actually a pharmaceutical drug that's being that's being developed in
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: Uruguay that I came across. I don't even ask how
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: I come across these things. I just somehow, like just
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: stumble across them. Basically, in a nutshell, what it is.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: It's similar to aspirin, So it's actually derivative of solicylate,
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: which is like similar to aspirin. And what it does
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: is it actually triggers creatine dependent thermogenesis in fat cells,
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: which is like a pathway that we've known about for many,
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: many years, but we've not focused on. Everyone's focused on
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: the JLP one drugs, you know, the zenpic and every
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: second person's on redder. But all of those drugs they
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: appear to cause a degree of muscle loss as well
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: as weight loss as part of the weight loss. This
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: compound does not appear in human clinical studies. It does
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: not have any muscle loss. It has direct fat loss.
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: And it's called SANA s A NA SA NA is
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: the molecule.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: And when will that be commercially available if at all?
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: Well, I actually this literally this morning. I I released
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: I filmed the video about a month ago without knowing
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: that knowing who is behind the product, like you bring
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: it to market. So this morning I just contacted the
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: pharmaceutical company hoping to find out more information, you know,
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: when it's going to be really what sort of studies
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: they got planned? I mean, to bring a product to
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: market takes literally millions of dollars, you.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: Know, and a lot of time. Yep, yeah, And did
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: you get an answer? No? No, No, I think it's
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: just what I like to do. Is I love being
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: the first to talk about things on Like I want
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: to bring something new to the table.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm all about. Like, I want to bring
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: forward information that people have never heard of before and
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: just peak their curiosity because you know, in five years
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: from now, this could be a really well established drug
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: with an actual therapeutic benefit, and I can I don't know.
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: I think it's a kind of like a I think
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: it's an ego thing there, Craig. I'm like, oh, I
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: was the first to talk about it, you know.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Right, You're allowed to have an ego. I'm interested in
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: I told you and I had a chat before we
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: started recording about what's going on with my mum and
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: dad and there's a bit of a falling off the
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: cliff cognitively for both of them. But I read a
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: title to one of your videos and it was one
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: milligram of this mineral for our depression anxiety. Yep, it is,
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: and why it's been kept hidden.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: This is a this is a game changer, and it's actually, yeah,
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: it is hidden because not many doctors, particularly in Australia,
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: will even consider looking into it because well, first of all,
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: let's talk about what the mineral is. The mineral is lithium.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: Now some people may have heard of lithium in the
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: context of bipolar disorder or mood disorders. Yes, but the
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: lithium that they're prescribing is lithium carbonate and they're using
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: about four hundred milligrams, which is four hundred times That
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: does not that I recommend, which is lithium oratate at
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: one milligram. And by the way, this is literally cheap
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: as chips. It's basically like five cents a day, okay,
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: so you can get it off. I heard it's readily
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: available to lithium iritate one milligram, and basically what they've
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: noted in clinical clinical studies, that is that lithium if
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: if you start using it early enough as a preventative,
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: it appears to blunts the development of amyloid plaque in
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: the brain, and it also increases like neurogenesis, highly neuroprotective,
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: turns on genes that help with autophagy and cellular cleanup
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: and all that sort of stuff.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Bro, I'm just.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: All is because I'm genetically fucking destined for that. I
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: think both Mum and Dada, although they're old as fuck,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: but God bless them, but better to be preventative than real,
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: proactive than reactive. So if I this is not for
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: anyone else, not for anyone else, as me just asking
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: my mate the question, if I was going to do it,
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: would you.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: Would you think that for me doing a milligram a
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: day of lithium ooritate might be advantageous.
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: Absolutely. Yeah.
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: I feel really confident in saying that because i know
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: what the research shows at a microdose level, and I've
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: also spoken to many researchers on this topic. I haven't
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: interviewed anyone on the podcast yet, but I've spoken to
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: them about it. It's not new. I mean, lithium has
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: been around for years. We know so much about it.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: It's just that our modern day diet is so deficient
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: in lithium, just like magnesium, Like it's just another one
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: of those trace minerals. That's just we're not getting it
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: in our soils, right, it's not found in our soils
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: for people.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: Are deficient, right, all right? And where can I get that?
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: Just to health? It's I herb you know it's over
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: the counter, right.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: It's even from yeah, I mean life extension. They make
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: a good good lithium.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: M all right.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: What is what is a a supplement or a you know,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: a bio haack that people are using that's gained a
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: lot of attention.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: That's kind of bullshit.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: It's kind of it's kind of all smoke and mirrors,
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: but when applied or consumed or whatever, it doesn't live
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: up to the hype.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll definitely say it's trending a lot in the US.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: Is those apple side of vinegar gummies? Have you seen as.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Just just then, like you just had to say apple
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: side of vinegar gummies?
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm out, what are they meant? What are
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: they meant to do?
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: So the theory I mean apple side of vitigo is legitimate,
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: like it does the liquid and you know with the
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: mother if you're having it as before your meal, there's
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: research showing that it can delay gastric emptying by keeping
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: you fuller. So keeps you fuller for longer it because
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: it keeps food in the stomach for a longer period
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: of time. The second thing that apple side of vinegar
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: liquid does before a meal is that it can help
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: to reduce the amount of carbohydrates that are absorbed in
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: this small intestines. And then it's also got to like
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: a prebiotic effect as well. But if you look at
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: the gummies, the gummies, first of all, it's it's literally
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: just like in a lolly. It's it's in a either
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: synthetic sugar artificial bullshit sugar sucerlose most likely, and then
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: it's going to lack a lot of the acetic acid
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: that you get in the vinegar in the liquid form.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: So but Craig, you'd freak out if you looked at
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: the apple side of vining a gummy mark gets size,
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: it's I reckon, it's.
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: Well above one hundred million you know, one hundred million
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: what US dollars?
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, really across all products. Yeah, I would say it's
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: probably up there.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know this is a stretch, but it's the
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: difference between you know, marketing and reality.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: I bought this meal the other day and it was like,
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: I don't normally but.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: I it was one of those kind of it wasn't
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: muscle meals, but it was one of those deer frozen
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: high performance and all the good shit, and it was
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: it was like pulled beef and smoky pulled beef or
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: something and sweet potato and on the box I probably
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: should have pulled it out of the box and it
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: looked amazing and had you know, like I think forty
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: grams of protein and.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: It read very well. And then I got it home.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: I'll send you a photo later, dude.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: It was so disgusting.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: It was just it was just this pile of goop.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: But on the front it was this, it looked like
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: this fucking amazing. Anyway that happens, that's called marketing and
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: branding and selling shits. Let's just say it didn't live
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: up to the hype.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: But I think that's the thing is like for everyone,
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: you know, whether or not you're in your space or
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: MySpace or any kind of anything linked to health, wellness, performance,
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: you know, data, da diet. It's trying to try.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: To understand the difference between, or at least be aware
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: of and get clarity around the difference between what I
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: call the front of the pack and the back of
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: the pack. The front of the pack is a sales pitch.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: It's people trying to make you buy stuff that you
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: probably wouldn't otherwise buy when it has no this and
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: none of that, and and it's you know, it's whatever
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: it is, you know, chicken and rice, this or that.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: And then you look on the back and it's four
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: percent chicken. Be like, but that's the number one is chicken.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: This is a chicken dish. You go, dude, this is
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: ninety six percent not fucking chicken. So turn around, turn
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: the pack around. I mean it's hard with SUPs and
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: drugs because you don't know necessarily, but with like packaged
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: food in the supermarket, is so easy to ascertain whether
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: or not you know, if you have a like simple understanding,
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: you don't need to be a scientist. But read the
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: nutritional box. It'll tell you how much of everything per
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: is in you know, the per hundred grands column.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: Have a look at that, and then have a look
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: at the amount of ingredients, Like the more ingredients, the
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: worse agree.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: You know, some of those things have got like fifty
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: ingredients and ten of them words you don't know what
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: they mean.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: They are preservatives, they are additives, they are coloring, they
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: are flavorings, they're they're sweetened nine to five one sweet
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: than nine to five to one.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: Fucking look into that shit, it's right, And there's just
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: all this stuff that we don't know because we're just
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: buying this yummy meal that's on the front of the box.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: So I think there's you know, the onus is on
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: us a little because we can't. I mean, the bottom
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: line is people who are selling gummy bears with fucking
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: nothing in them, I don't give a fuck about your
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: health or wellness. All they care about is money. So
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: it's but I expect that, So I don't get this.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: You know how people get disappointed in companies. I'm not
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: disappointed because my expectations are based on how they operate,
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: not what I want, not what I think they should
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: put in. But I you know, I was just an
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: idiot the other night where I didn't check it thoroughly,
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: but I think that's one of the one.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: Of the.
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: Well, isn't it.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: Isn't it funny that there's literally in the supermarket they've
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: got the health food aisle.
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's health food. What's the rest?
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: You know? That is so funny? All right?
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: So I've written down here about so they've been banging
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: on lately, and this is no news to you or
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: even a lot of my listeners, because my listeners are
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: pretty informed that they've been talking about CREA team being
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: cognitive enhands up. You know.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: So originally it was like a training.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Aid to help us recovery or put on a bit
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: of mass or whatever or fill up or you know,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: and we know that it wasn't you know, like I
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: think twenty percent of people you'd know better than me
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: just didn't work for it all And then a bunch
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: of people it gave my gut ache and all that.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: But now it's being spoken about more often about as
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: being something that makes you think better or have better
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: cognitive performance.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: Tell us about that, grasshopper.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: And also, what did you you were going to say,
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: don't take creatine until you know this?
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: You did a video on it.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, so cretine obviously, what's interesting about it nowadays,
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: in the last like three to five years, we're seeing
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: new studies coming out how creatine can support brain health.
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: And there's one study that's.
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: Been circulating the social media ecosphere for quite a while,
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: and that's how creatine can offset the damaging effects of
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: sleep deprivation. So they're looking at what happens if you
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: take a bigger dose of creatine after a poor night's sleep,
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: like five to six hours of sleep. They're checking their
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: cognitive function and they're evaluating and they're looking at how
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: does it actually impact their cognition, And what it appears
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: to do is it actually preserves cognitive function during periods
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: of sleep deprivation. So what does that mean for the
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: average person. Well, if you've had a really poor night sleep,
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: let's say you've slept five or six hours, and you
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: know you need to be super sharp in the morning,
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: then don't take your five grams, double or triple the
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: dose instead of ten or fifteen grams. And that's been
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: shown to actually boost cognition, you know, improve alertness. But
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: the video that I made the other day was about
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: actually using the precursor of creatine called GAA. So it's
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: called guana dino acetic acid GAA. And for anyone that's
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: interested in this, I mean there's there's actually a shitload
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: of research on GAA. Basically they figured that it's a
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: precursor of creatine and it actually increases creatine levels in
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: the brain more than taking creatine alone. So if you
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: can wind creatine on a hydrate with about one to
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: two grams of GAA, yeah, it actually supercharges the amount
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: of creatine in the brain.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad I know that. All right, Where do
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: I get g A A.
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: There's a company in Serbia in Europe.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: That well that's andy.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: No, but you can get it online. In other words, Yeah,
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: it's a company. It's it's a product called Cregatine. I
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: mean down the track. I'd love to release my own,
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: like eventually I will be releasing the products with the
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: GAA and the crew teen together. But it's called cregateen
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: cre E g A A T I n EE.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: And I think that I think the protocol or the
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: the thing that they used was for that that I
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: don't have. It's the same research you're talking about.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: It might be where that a bunch of people who
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: they did pre testing kind of cognitive performance, and then
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: one group had a normal night's sleep. I think the
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: other group had no sleep. And then the people that
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: slept they gave no creatine and the people that didn't
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: sleep they gave creatine. And then they retested them and
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: the people who had no sleep plus creatine outperformed their
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: baseline scores, which was crazy, and the other people got
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: the same. So imagine if we combine that, I might
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: be fucking Einstein by October.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: If I can get some of that.
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: You got some lithium and some creatine and some ga
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: in your next shopping cart.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: There, great, so good. I need you. I need to
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: do a consult with you.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: I'll save up, I'll sell it an organ. So every
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: now and then, my training partner comes to the gym.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: Most people will not know what I'm talking about, but
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: you will straight away. It comes to the gym, and
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: his tongue is blue and his teeth are blue. Yep,
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: explain why that is and talk to us about that product.
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: Yes, so this is what he's using. Is something called
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: methylene blue. Now, methylene blue has been used for a
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: very very long time, and you'll be shocked to know
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: this that it's actually the very first synthetic drug ever developed,
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: like nineteen oh one or something ridiculous.
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: So it's actually it's.
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: Got a very long history and we know so much
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: about it. What's really interesting about methylene blue is, yes,
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: it can they use it to clean fish tanks. I mean,
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: there's all sorts of interesting and weird uses for it. It
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: can stain, you know, it's basically it can stain so
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: many different things. Blue makes you. It makes you urine
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: turn blue. You know, your mouth turned blue. There's even
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: studies where they think that it can change the color
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: of the brain to possibly become more blue tinged, which
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: is a fancy Halloween costume idea for you.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: Pretty much you're an alien now.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: And the thing about methylene blue is dosage wise, Yeah,
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: a lot of people are in my opinion that they're
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: overdoing it. I think again, it's one of those ones.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: It's similar to lithium microdosing methylene blues where you get
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: the benefits and as far as cognitive function and as
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: an anti Alzheimer's drug, there's pretty damn solid research on
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: that from that front.
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: It actually helping with cognition.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: It's funny how with the brain and cognitive performance more
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: broadly or more specifically, like we and again I'm saying
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: not everyone, but there's a certain percentage of the population.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, actually it varies, but
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: it's probably somewhere about I think. Really, I think it's
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: really about ten to twenty percent of the population who
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: actually work out or do some kind of intentional workout,
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: whether or not that's at a park or the beach
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: or or you know, the garage or a commercial gym.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: But very few of.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: Us intentionally train our brain, like and I just like,
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: just because I've been around a lot of cognitive decline
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: lately and a lot of people affected.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: And I've had a few like young friends who have
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: really struggled.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: When I say young, I'm talking about people in their
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: late forties and fifties who have very very much started
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: to decline for a range of reasons, I think. But
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: just even the idea, like as I said to you,
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: I'm submitting my thesis on Monday, which is this is
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: not a great achievement, by the way, six and a
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: half years. But I've been kind of busy otherwise as well.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: But even just doing a PhD, if only for the
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: fact to do the PhD. I can't be objective about
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: this because I'm me, but as objective as I can be,
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: as much self awareness as I can have, which ironically
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: is my PhD is a kind of self awareness. I
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: feel like my brain works better than ten years ago
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: than you know, memory recall learning like learning when you
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: do a PhD, unless you're an existing academic who's coming
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: from a master's or something, you're learning a new language.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: It's literally like people don't understand you get it right.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: It's like you're learning to speak and write another language.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: So and then doing all the research, doing all the
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: problem solving, doing all the interpreting the data, how do
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: I analyze the data, how it do I interpret it?
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: Who else is doing what? And then reading, you know,
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: like I started my original.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: Kind of pool of papers that were relevant when I
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: did the initial search for one of my papers is
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: a Systematic Literature Review, which is a giant undertaking.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: In the world of you know, psychology, because there's so
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: much stuff.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: But anyway, we had to go through fourteen hundred and
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: forty papers, not read the entirety, but most of all
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: of those papers to get down to ninety three papers, right,
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: and you think about this one paper could be easily
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: thirty pages and six different studies in that one paper
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: or fifty pages summer fifteen, but not many. And so yeah,
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: just using my brain but also using my brain in
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: a new way has for me. I feel kept me
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: for one of better term young or functional or or
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: maybe improved functions. So I think, you know, I think
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: using supportive supplements or drugs. Yeah, maybe depends on what
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: I also think though, train your brain, like intentionally solve problems,
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: do new things, do things that are hard to fucking
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: figure out. Do that because we can be like psychologically
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: and cognitively lazy too.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: And that was one of the digressing.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: I'll shut up after this, but like I did a
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: podcast yesterday which might be up today I think, and
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: the title was is AI making this dumber? And then
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: then I'm like, well, everyone thinks it's a curse. I'm like, no,
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: it's just a resource and a tool. But how you
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: use it exactly I use it. You can use it
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: to make you smarter and acquire knowledge and be more creative,
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: depending on you know, if you go write a letter
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: to Lucas and then it writes a letter, and then
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: I post that letter or email as though I've written it.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: And that's how I use it, where I'm not thinking
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: I'm outsourcing my cognitive capacity to an AI. Well, of
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: course you're going to get fucking dumber, of course, because
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: you're not you're not training your brain.
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: It's like I'm getting, you know, I'm getting something else
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: to go to the gym for me.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't work, but that you know that space
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: between Oh, this is a tool that I can use
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: to help me be more efficient while still using my
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: brain trying to figure out how do I optimize this
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: tool that I have now to produce better outcomes and
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: results in less time, with more efficiency and more accuracy.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: Now I'm using my brain more.
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's a it's a big it's actually
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: a really big debate, like whether or not these tools
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: are actually going to sort of dumb down the population.
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: Like you said, though, Craig, it's literally it's it's all
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: about how you use them and making sure that you
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: have deliberate time each day to hard stuff, you know,
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: doing the hard activities.
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: One hundred solving problems, et cetera. I know you don't
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: want to bang on about it because you're just a
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: humble dude, multi millionaire, humble dude in the backwoods of
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: Upper whatever. So you bring out a new product, which
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: Jumbo Harper is going to get right on.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: Because I'm losing testosterone at a rapid rate, dripping off
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: my eyelids. You're producing a Is it called a testosterone booster?
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: Is that what we call it?
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's the product category. I would say
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: it's a testosterone support formula, like a natural formulation. Yeah, yeah, Yeah,
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: it's been a long time the making. It's a I
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: mean I've been working with guys for probably five years now,
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: helping them with their testosterone. And I mean I've had
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: the privilege of seeing which ingredients actually move the needle
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: because I'm doing bloods with them before and after, so
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: I actually get a chair to see which ingredients out
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: there are complete bs that don't work, and which ingredients
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: actually move the needle as far as you know their
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: blood work. But then there's a second component, like as
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: far as their symptoms, like do they actually feel more
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: benefits from the higher testosterone with these ingredients? Yeah, there's
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: definitely You've got your old school classics that have been
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: around floating around zinc magnesium, you know, the zem product
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: that was around years ago. What's really unique about my
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: formulation is that I've got two ingredients in there that
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: actually have like a decent amount of human clinical research
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: where I can actually make the claims legally. I can
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: make the claims that it increases free testosterone by twenty percent,
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: which is decent, and that's just from the two ingredients.
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: I've got eight ingredients in the stack. So it's a
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: very comprehensive formula for any guy that needs a little
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: bit of a boost or a bit of support for
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: their testosterone.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: Is it true that, well, congratulations, When will that be out?
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: Do you reckon.
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: In forty eight hours from now? I mean it's like
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: the product is literally manufactured in America. We've got photos
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: of the bottles literally yesterday, so it'll be live on
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: my website in forty eight hours.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: I have a slight feeling you're going to get inundated
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: with that, But anyway, so that's a good problem to
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: have keeping up. Is it true that I don't know
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: that you know the answer to this, but so were
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: you on Humanman Show or was he on yours? Or
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: do you just follow each other.
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: We both follow each other. Yeah, he's kept an eye
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: on my posts quite a lot.
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, well he's kind of a big deal. So
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: well done. That's good.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: Is do you think things like he and others have
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: spoken many others about the impact of microplastics and that impacting.
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: So you know, it's like as soon as you get
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: like when I get a frozen dinner, which I rarely do,
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: but like I did the other night, I tip it
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: out into a bowl as frozen clunks, right, so I
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: don't heat it in plastic because the moment that you
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: heat that shit in plastic, now you've got transference in
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: the plastic into your food. So now you're eating microplastics.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: Which I think it's reasonably well established.
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: Now that you know what they should have they should
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: have preak, Yeah, they should have you know, the macronutrient
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: breakdown proteins, fats, carbs.
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: They should have a separate line for microplastic content.
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: Exactly exactly, and I mean the simple listed terms.
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: It's well it's not a simple term, but you can
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: explain what it is to people in simple terms. It's
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: an endochrime disruptor. Yeah's hogging. It's basically hogging. It's literally
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: hogging the receptors where testosterone is supposed to bind to.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: So think of your body.
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: Yes, every guy listening to this podcast is producing testosterone
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: from his balls. But in order for testosterone to actually
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: exert its effect, or to get the benefit of testosterone,
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: it actually has to hit the receptor. If that receptor
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: is hogged and blocked by plastics, it's called an endocrime disruptor.
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: And that's why so many guys, even that have decent
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: testosterone on paper, they still feel like shit. They don't
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: have motivation, they're not waking up with an erection. They
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: feel apathetic, low confidence.
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: Like it's a big problem.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: There's a myriad of issues that and potential issues that
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: can arise from having low testosterone, and the whole kind of.
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: We've spoken about this.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you and I have, but the
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: whole Oh yeah, well you're you're fifty five, Brian, it
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: should be low.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: How about fuck off? How about no? Oh well that's
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: that's very normal.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, most fifty five year olds with low tea are fucked.
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: I don't want to be that. It's oh, you're in range.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: How about not? Also, while we're on testosterone. Oh, I
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: was going to tell you too.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: I jumped in the car the other day with a
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: mate and it was it wasn't a hot day, but
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: in the car it was warm, and he went to have.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: A swig from basically a plastic bottle of not basically
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: a plastic bottle of water that probably had been sitting
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: in there two days.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: I grabbed it and I opened the window and I
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: tipped it all out. Because what are you doing? I go,
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: I'm fucking looking after your health. How much shit is
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: in that? Like, you've got this plastic sitting in the sun,
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: just integrating into this water that you're just tipping into
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: your body. You're better to be dehydrated for an hour
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: than put that crap in your body.
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: So is there anything else you want to chat about
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: or that you wanted to share with us before we
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: say goodbye?
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: Not really.
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: I think the main thing is I just want men
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: to know that there's tools, there are tools out there
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: that can actually support them.
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: They don't have to feel they don't have to.
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: Be waken up feeling exhausted, not keen to train, you know, sluggish,
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: just apathetic. Like if you are feeling like that. Then
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: I do encourage men to just get a blood test done.
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: It doesn't literally, it doesn't cost you a lot. You
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: can go to websites like eye Medical or ice creen.
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: Just get a blood test and check your testosterone, your
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: free testosterone, your SHBG. You know, these things really do matter,
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: and if it's low, there are tools out there that
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: can help you. So definitely want to just encourage that
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: for men listening. Mate, it's always fun talking to you.
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: I feel like we could do a through our podcast
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: not still have more questions.
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: So we said it at the start, but you tell
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: our audience where is best to find you?
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: Follow you connect?
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, appreciated Craig as always, we can always jam on
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: for a lot longer.
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: It's always so good, good chat.
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: Definitely just check out boost your Biology on Instagram and
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: also YouTube. Yeah they can find everything, all my resources
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: and tools and things like that.
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: Just yeah, search me up on Boosier Biology.
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: Awesome. And he's always cranking out really good reels.
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: And I learn much better by watching and listening.
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: It's just my learning style, which doesn't really help when
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: you're doing a PhD. I'll give you the tip, but anyway,
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: I would rather listen to Lucas for three or four.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: Minutes than read a thousand words of something on a
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: piece of paper or on a screen.
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: I just don't.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, I retain to an extent, but it's not
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: my optimal way of learning.
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: So I think for a lot.
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: Of us who who do better with you know, by
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: the way, some of them are not three or four minutes,
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: some of them are twelve, But that twelve minutes goes
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: pretty quick. Yeah, it's a great way to learn, mate.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: We appreciate you. I love chatting with you. Good luck
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: with the launch of Can I say the name?
• 56:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you can definitely say it here, yeap, no problem.
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: The name is peak peak as in peak performance, the
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: name is peak T peak T forty eight hours. Probably
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: about by the time you listen to this, it's probably
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: already out or has been out for a little while.
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: Have a look at them at that no sales pitch,
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: Just have a look. And I think an informed human
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: is in a much better place to make better decisions
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: and create better outcomes. And we need doctors, and we
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: need your a natural path. We need people like you,
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: and we need people like me. I guess we were
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: kind of in a psychology space, but that doesn't need
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: to be at the exclusion of us being really informed.
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: Like I don't like making decisions because someone told me
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: to do something, even if they're credible. I'm like, yeah,
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: I always say, Lucas I always say to my audience
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: if I say, even face to face, don't believe me
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: because I'm being paid to stand up here and I'm
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: an alleged expert. But consider my stuff, see if it
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: makes sense, see if it resonates. Don't disbelieve me automatically.
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: But rather than just believe me because I'm saying this,
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: go and do your own research. Look stuff up, see
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: if what I'm saying proves to be true or at
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: least resonates at the very least.
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: And we're not.
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: Talking about necessarily putting in anything in your body, but
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: do a little bit of independent you research. Like literally,
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: this show is called the You Project because I think
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: the biggest project I'm going.
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  Speaker 2: To have in my life as me.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: If I can't manage me physically, mentally, emotionally, clinically, well
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: I can't do much else or I definitely can't do
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: it optimally. So my initial you know, like even with
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: my mum and dad at the moment, there's lots of
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: shit going on, but I'm still adamant that my diet
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: is good, my sleep is good, my exercise is good,
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: my stress is low. As much as I can manage
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: that that I'm creating an environment where I've got a
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: running start, yea, and that sixty two things crossed. I
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: don't feel or function or perform like a typical sixty
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: two year old, not because I'm special or amazing gifted,
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: but I just do the things that create that outcome.
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: And we can all do the things. And if you've
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: got crappy genetics, cool, do the best you can with
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: your crappy genetics. If you've got to saw back fucking
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: figure out what you can do. You know, Okay, you
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: can't run, maybe struggle to walk, but there's things that
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: you can do. So we're always just like human optimization
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: is not exactly that is, that's bi hacking basically.
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not.
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: About having optimal fucking genetics or optimal time or optimal anything.
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: It's just about altering your behavior and understanding your body.
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I mean you've been by hacking for how
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: many years now, Craig.
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: A lot a lot, I know, what works for me
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: and what doesn't?
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: Another sixty two years left, journey halfway.
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: Let's hope well for me.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: My biggest personally, not for others, but my biggest performance variable,
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: hands down by a long way.
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: Is sleep.
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: Right, So if I'm underslept, all the other stuff help,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: but I'm still not optimal. Yeah, like, whatever optimal is
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: for me, I'm not that mate, I'm banging on. You're great,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: it's great, good luck with a product. We'll say, good
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: bras here, but boost your biology. Everyone, go check it out.
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  Speaker 4: Thanks great, Thanks Greg,