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Which Boxers Should Consider Retirement? · The Mixed Company Podcast

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Speaker 1: In this corner U standing at six foot five, weight
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Speaker 1: class unknowns, but Hailen from the City of Sands.
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Speaker 2: Put your hands together.
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Speaker 1: For Jamison will and in this then in at five
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Speaker 1: foot ten, weighing in at pound and coming to us
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Speaker 1: from his super secret bunker with no AC in Tucson, Arizona.
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Speaker 1: Put your hands together for Luis Montemao.
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Speaker 2: Of course from Jamison. I'm always joining by Luise Louise.
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Speaker 3: What's going on, man, Jamison? What's up? Welcome to episode
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Speaker 3: forty man. I we had a crazy week in between shows.
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Speaker 3: If any of you are just joining us, we have
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Speaker 3: an awesome interview that we did with none other than
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Speaker 3: Sean Porter Showtime Sean Porter himself. I was lucky enough
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Speaker 3: to get to meet him last week. I was invited
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Speaker 3: the show, was invited to a press conference in Phoenix.
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Speaker 2: Uh.
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Speaker 3: And you know, if you're just joining us now, go
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Speaker 3: back to check out our previous episode. We released that
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Speaker 3: interview on the audio platforms. It's on YouTube. You can
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Speaker 3: check our playlist out on the nineteen Media group channel.
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Speaker 3: And yeah, it's did about ten minutes with the guy.
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Speaker 3: If you don't know Sean Porter, you know he's a
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Speaker 3: very well known popular boxer, well regarded in the sport.
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Speaker 3: He's retired in twenty twenty one, or actually didn't he
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Speaker 3: looked it up. When was the buttfight? Was it around then?
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Speaker 3: Twenty one? Twenty two?
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Speaker 2: Was I twenty two?
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Speaker 3: If I'm not mistaken, Yeah, but sorry, I don't have
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Speaker 3: that off the top of my head. But he's now retired,
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Speaker 3: and he showed up in Phoenix because he is promoting
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Speaker 3: an event that we'll talk about as well. But yeah,
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Speaker 3: I just couldn't believe that I had the opportunity to
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Speaker 3: meet the guy. He's now a broadcaster, you know, a commentator.
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Speaker 3: He's still in the boxing world chatting about it, and
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Speaker 3: he seems he's always seemed like the nicest guy in
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Speaker 3: the world, and it really he doesn't seem any different
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Speaker 3: in person talking to him. Let's be honest, like I'm
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Speaker 3: a nobody, but he still seemed very enthusiastic about.
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Speaker 2: Hold on time out, time out, time out, time out,
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Speaker 2: time out, stop that ship. You can't say you're nobody
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Speaker 2: once you have podcasts, once you have done something over
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Speaker 2: a year, you're not a nobody. You can't say that.
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Speaker 2: We've interviewed too many people that forty episodes you've been
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Speaker 2: to events. You ain't no nobody. You there's a chance
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Speaker 2: that the supporter is gonna be in the Hall of
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Speaker 2: Fame one day. Yeah, you're not a nobody, So don't
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Speaker 2: refer to yourself as that. That ain't that ain't it?
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Speaker 2: You were definitely not nobody. You do this very well.
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Speaker 2: You have been very passionate about boxing. Your knowledge is
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Speaker 2: really high for people who do this. There's a lot
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Speaker 2: of people who are nobody's who would wish to be
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Speaker 2: as knowledgeable as you are. So not, no, don't, don't.
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Speaker 2: Don't put yourself in that regard.
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Speaker 3: Thank you. I do appreciate that. I say that in
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Speaker 3: comparison to you know, the guy's been on ESPN, the
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Speaker 3: guy's been on you know the Zone, he's interviewed with
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Speaker 3: you know, people that have thousands and thousands of viewers
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Speaker 3: and followers. You know, it seems like millions. But you
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Speaker 3: know that's fair. That's fair. You know, our show has
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Speaker 3: definitely come a long long way, uh, doing now media
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Speaker 3: events and yeah, just getting to it's it's surreal, man,
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Speaker 3: just seeing this guy on TV in the ring and
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Speaker 3: on interviews and then he's just standing right in front
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Speaker 3: of you, like five feet away. The only celebrity encounter
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Speaker 3: I've ever had is I once gave Danny Treyhoe a
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Speaker 3: ride in my car when I was in college when
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Speaker 3: he was in Phoenix. That's a whole other story. But
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Speaker 3: other than that, yeah, it's just it's just crazy. I mean,
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Speaker 3: you've you've talked to athletes, You've been in that world.
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Speaker 3: I have not, So it's definitely new and exciting for me.
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Speaker 3: And yeah, he just also seemed just just enthusing. He
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Speaker 3: just seems like he's really excited to answer questions. You know.
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Speaker 3: We talked about the big names that people should keep
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Speaker 3: an eye on to be the next big star.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 3: We talked about his thoughts on why boxing isn't as
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Speaker 3: popular as when we were all growing up. He's thirty eight,
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Speaker 3: so he's run the same age we are. We talked
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Speaker 3: about we talked about the differences in audiences between MMA
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Speaker 3: and boxing. How he became an MMA fan. I asked
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Speaker 3: if there was a rivalry between that, because you kind
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Speaker 3: of see that sometimes and you can see hear his
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Speaker 3: opinion on that, and then we've got to make sure
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Speaker 3: that we give a shout out to the event. He's
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Speaker 3: actually he's one of the people behind the event. It's
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Speaker 3: called fight Club Phoenix. It is boxing and MMA under
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Speaker 3: the stars on Saturday, April eighteenth in downtown Phoenix. And
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Speaker 3: it's not just combat, it is they have vendors, they
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Speaker 3: have live music. You know, it's a big thing and
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Speaker 3: it sounds really really cool, and you know, he was
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Speaker 3: there to promote the event, and we're gonna go. You
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Speaker 3: just go to fight Clubphx dot com for event info
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Speaker 3: and tickets, and if you're watching us on YouTube, I'm
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Speaker 3: gonna put up a little graphic right here of the
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Speaker 3: poster of the event which you can see Jamison. You
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Speaker 3: see that. It's beautiful. But yeah, fight Clubpachex dot com
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Speaker 3: to check out this event. Another thing that I got
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Speaker 3: to do at that press conference is I interviewed a
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Speaker 3: few fighters who are actually going to be boxing at
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Speaker 3: the at the fight Club Phoenix event. So we're gonna
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Speaker 3: save that for next week. It'll be a bonus episode.
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Speaker 3: But yeah, three young guys fighting. I asked them their
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Speaker 3: way classes like one five max so so skit skinty
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Speaker 3: young guys, And yeah, it was really cool just to
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Speaker 3: see local talent being highlighted for this event. And yeah,
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Speaker 3: I'm really excited to share that interview with Hill next
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Speaker 3: week on the show. One thing we want to do now,
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Speaker 3: just a little preview. There is a fighter named Luis
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Speaker 3: Espinosa and he gave a really really cool shout out
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Speaker 3: at the press confers. So let me play that for
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Speaker 3: you right now.
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Speaker 4: If I can just do a shout out for my
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Speaker 4: wife's sisters, we started a foundation called the Infinite Bond Foundation,
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Speaker 4: which it brings awareness to domestic violence. They lost their
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Speaker 4: lives shouting to a domestic violence issue, and so I
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Speaker 4: just want to bring awareness to that and just if
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Speaker 4: you know anybody that's going through it, just please feel
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Speaker 4: free to reach out and just know that you're not alone.
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Speaker 3: Awesome. So yeah, we're also going to put that up
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Speaker 3: on the screen if you're watching on YouTube. So if
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Speaker 3: you need help, please go to the Infinite Bondfoundation dot
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Speaker 3: org or call area code four eight zero eight nine
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Speaker 3: zero three zero three nine. So thanks so much to
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Speaker 3: Luisa Spinoza for for mentioning that to us. All right, Jameson,
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Speaker 3: let's get into the show proper. We have a couple
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Speaker 3: of things that we need to discuss after our last episode,
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Speaker 3: the first one being we previewed the fight between Sebastian
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Speaker 3: Fundora and Keith Thurman. We were both wondering what Keith
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Speaker 3: Thurman would look like after being out of the ring
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Speaker 3: for a few years. I thought maybe it was a
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Speaker 3: stepping stone for for Nora, but it turns out it
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Speaker 3: was more like sending a lamp to the slaughter the
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Speaker 3: poor guy. What was your take on Keith Thurman's before
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Speaker 3: Ormans It was a six round stoppage by the ref,
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Speaker 3: he said. Keith Thurman said, no, you know, he shouldn't
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Speaker 3: let me go. I still had more in me. But
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Speaker 3: I don't know. What did you think, Nah, it's over.
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Speaker 3: It is over.
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Speaker 2: I know people who are at to fight. I got
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Speaker 2: message midfight and was like, oh, no, he doesn't need
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Speaker 2: to be boxing anymore. That's how bad it was. It
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Speaker 2: looked like a god has been honest sabbatical for a while. Also,
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Speaker 2: boxing is also a young man's game. I think we
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Speaker 2: forget about that. In most cases, boxing is a young
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Speaker 2: man's game. The amount of energy, the amount of skill set.
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Speaker 2: Unless you're like a superpower fighter, boxing is a real
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Speaker 2: young man's game for which you have to do to win
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Speaker 2: a fight and to put pressure on your opponent. You
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Speaker 2: need as much energy and effort as possible to do so.
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Speaker 2: Keith Thurman looked washed. He looked washed, and when you're washed,
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Speaker 2: you've got to retire do media like other guys. But
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Speaker 2: it's over. We don't need to see him boxing anymore.
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Speaker 2: Not only could he wasn't good, but we don't need
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Speaker 2: him his health being impacted in Jebardy. But it's over.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Keith Thurman's whole thing is that he he was
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Speaker 3: setting up Fondorra. He says that he saw video that
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Speaker 3: he looks very sloppy in the later rounds, and that
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Speaker 3: he was setting him up and that he was gonna,
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Speaker 3: you know, be able to catch him, et cetera. He
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Speaker 3: said that he was, he still felt good. He still
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Speaker 3: could take a lot more punishment, you know what. And
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Speaker 3: maybe that's true. Maybe he could still have lasted a
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Speaker 3: few more rounds and taken a lot of that, you
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Speaker 3: know that, a lot of those punches and still been
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Speaker 3: on his feet. But a ref isn't gonna know that
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Speaker 3: He's not gonna always keep seeing is that you keep
8:37
Speaker 3: getting your ass kicked. Your face looks terrible, not to
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Speaker 3: say that. People's faces sort of indicate how how well
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Speaker 3: you're doing in the fight or not and whether you
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Speaker 3: want or not. But I don't blame the ref for
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Speaker 3: that stuff. Stoppage. The ref even said even if not
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Speaker 3: in that same round the sixth, the one before, he said,
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Speaker 3: you know, Keith showed me something, and I'm sorry, Keith,
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Speaker 3: you did not. You did not show the ref something.
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Speaker 3: So I agree with the stoppage and you know, shout
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Speaker 3: out to the best. I don't think Keith Thurman should
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Speaker 3: come back. I don't know. I think you're right. I
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Speaker 3: think maybe he just kind of focus on commentary, like
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Speaker 3: Sean Porter, Keith come on the show talk to us.
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Speaker 2: Definitely. Also, it's more of a situation where we want
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Speaker 2: guys being safe and healthy. We don't need guys injo
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Speaker 2: themselves put themselves in danger when it comes to fighting,
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Speaker 2: because we know how that can lead to. So it
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Speaker 2: looked like a guy that didn't need to be boxing anymore.
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Speaker 2: And when that's the case, we gotta go ahead and
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Speaker 2: hang it up.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that, you know, he uh, there's a
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Speaker 3: lot of pride in this and I understand, you know,
9:38
Speaker 3: but again, there's it's different from saying I don't know
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Speaker 3: that you can't you're too old to play tennis anymore.
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Speaker 3: This isn't the same kind of sport. You can't be
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Speaker 3: putting yourself onto that kind of No disrespect to tennis players,
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Speaker 3: but I'm sorry. It's just not the same to put
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Speaker 3: yourself under that abuse. Plus here's another thing too, That
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Speaker 3: hiatus out of the ring does make a big difference.
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Speaker 3: I don't know what it's like, because you know, I'm
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Speaker 3: not a professional, but it can't not matter. Even if
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Speaker 3: you're training hard at the gym, even if you're going
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Speaker 3: every day, even if you're sparring, it cannot be the
10:11
Speaker 3: same as actually being in the ring against an opponent
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Speaker 3: and fighting, as opposed to really to sparring with somebody
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Speaker 3: that isn't trying to knock you out and you know,
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Speaker 3: beat the shit out of you. Let's be honest. And
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Speaker 3: this was only his third fight since twenty nineteen, once
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Speaker 3: last year, then went back in twenty twenty two, so.
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Speaker 2: That ain't it. But also he's also a guy that
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Speaker 2: never got the mega fight. If you look back at
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Speaker 2: his career, you look back at the way divisions he
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Speaker 2: was in and the potential fights he could have gotten.
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Speaker 2: He never got the mega Mega fight at the right
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Speaker 2: time to where he's fighting somebody at the peak of
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Speaker 2: their career. He's the peak of his. He never quite
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Speaker 2: got the opportunity. I'm not so sure why there was
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Speaker 2: such a layoff with him. I don't quite remember. I
10:53
Speaker 2: remember at one point there was some sort of injury,
10:55
Speaker 2: but that didn't need to be lasting, you know, three years.
10:58
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, oh, COVID, you know you
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Speaker 2: Mintioned Tell's nineteen, so COVID takes out a year. But
11:04
Speaker 2: still there's two years there. I mean, there's a lot
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Speaker 2: going on. I'd love to hear from him and for
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Speaker 2: him to explain his you know, absences and whatnot. But
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Speaker 2: if this is it, hell of a career for sure,
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Speaker 2: like hell of a career, great boxer in his prime.
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Speaker 2: But we look back at it, he won't be remembered
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Speaker 2: as some other guys. But we look back at this era,
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Speaker 2: he will be mentioned. This won't be the same as
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Speaker 2: some other guys that were the same era.
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Speaker 3: No disrespect to him, you know, I'm not clowning him
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Speaker 3: for getting in that ring against a Sebastian Fundoda. But yeah,
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Speaker 3: I think if he walks away, he's going to be
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Speaker 3: remembered for a good career. And I think this is
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Speaker 3: going to be again a stepping stone, just another great
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Speaker 3: performance from Fundor to keep his star rising. And that's okay.
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Speaker 3: You know, this happens a lot. You get the young
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Speaker 3: guy who's hungry, and you know, you put him against
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Speaker 3: the big name because of the legacy, and you want
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Speaker 3: to see what he does against someone with a long
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Speaker 3: history lung career, as he's a veteran. But honestly, other
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Speaker 3: than if you irricasions, this is how it goes. The
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Speaker 3: younger guy kind of says, you know, all right, well
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Speaker 3: it's my turn now, I'm I'm next on the list
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Speaker 3: to be the big name, and I think this is
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Speaker 3: what we saw. So shout out to Keith Thurman. And
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Speaker 3: you know, also, I mean its mad respect to him
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Speaker 3: for still being on his feet after those six rounds
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Speaker 3: taking that punishment. There was one amazing moment in like,
12:24
Speaker 3: oh god, second or third round when he got hit
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Speaker 3: with a hook almost like buckled. He caught himself with
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Speaker 3: his fucking ankles, like he's his ankle muscles stopped him
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Speaker 3: from touching the ground, touching his gloves, touching the canvas.
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Speaker 3: And you know, that clip was circulating a lot because
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Speaker 3: you know, people were saying how did he take that?
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Speaker 3: How did he not fall down? So we're not saying
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Speaker 3: the man is weak and you know, and he's a
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Speaker 3: grampy or anything. You know, he's still tough obviously, but
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Speaker 3: the output isn't there to take on, you know, a
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Speaker 3: fighter like that, Younger fighters, faster fighters. So very entertaining fight,
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Speaker 3: you know, awesome, awesome night of boxing. But yeah, that
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Speaker 3: it was what it was, and we can't really deny that.
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Speaker 3: So moving on to somebody who maybe past his prime
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Speaker 3: or hard to say, has been back and forth and
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Speaker 3: not as active. Deontay Wilder came back over the weekend
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Speaker 3: with honestly a kick ass fight and to win against
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Speaker 3: Derek Shazora. This was very much This was the most
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Speaker 3: Deontay Deontay has been in terms of not a stylish boxer,
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Speaker 3: not showing any skill and just trying to demolish Derek Sheazora.
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Speaker 3: Hardly throwing any combos. He was just trying to land
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Speaker 3: that right over and over and over. And I'll say this,
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Speaker 3: it was It was not it was not the sweet science,
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Speaker 3: it was not skill of boxing, but goddamn was it entertaining.
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Speaker 3: But you know, Deontay is we've also talked about how
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Speaker 3: he may be on his way out and maybe he
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Speaker 3: needs to hang it up as well. What were your
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Speaker 3: thoughts on that fight, Jamison, after what you saw that
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Speaker 3: sloppy performance.
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Speaker 2: Nothing's changed, nothing's changed. I mean, here's the thing. He's
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Speaker 2: gonna look good versus subpar opponents, versus the lead opponents.
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Speaker 2: We know what it is. Guys acting box and take
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Speaker 2: his take his power are gonna always defeat him. So
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Speaker 2: it's not necessarily it's not necessarily situation where you're you know,
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Speaker 2: like you're pleased, bought the performance. It just is what
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Speaker 2: it is. We have a proof of concept now with
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Speaker 2: Deontay Water. We know what works what doesn't work. I'm
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Speaker 2: glad he's still able to fight. I'm glad that his
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Speaker 2: story off the outside the ring did not become a
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Speaker 2: bigger story. He had a different story that was that
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Speaker 2: that went viral that we're not gonna discuss on the show.
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Speaker 2: For those that want more information, they can google it themselves.
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Speaker 2: So I'm glad he won the fight. He lost it.
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Speaker 2: The author ing Stow would have been bigger. But with
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Speaker 2: that being said, uh, he still wants to fight and
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Speaker 2: it feels like he's gonna fight Joshua or somebody else
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Speaker 2: soon later. I'm not really for that, but who want
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Speaker 2: to say he shouldn't fight, But it feels like he's
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Speaker 2: gonna fight, so we got to wait to see what happens.
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Speaker 2: I'm not again, I'm not a fan of it. I
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Speaker 2: don't really want to see it. There's not necessarily a
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Speaker 2: demand for it. But it feels like he has one
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Speaker 2: more semi big fight left if he still wants to fight.
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Speaker 3: Do you think did he seem worse? He said, nothing
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Speaker 3: has changed, but I think he seemed worse in terms
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Speaker 3: of the boxing skill. Like I remember back Thury three,
15:24
Speaker 3: you know, he's definitely seemed to be moving more. And
15:26
Speaker 3: keep in mind I haven't gone back to it since,
15:28
Speaker 3: you know, I saw it in the movie theater, but
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Speaker 3: he seemed to have been a little bit more disciplined
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Speaker 3: skill than actually trying to lend what do you call
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Speaker 3: surgical punches. Obviously it turned out how it did, but please, the.
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Speaker 2: Skill set's always been an issue. The skill set and
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Speaker 2: the developing and the progress has always been an issued.
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Speaker 2: He's o raw as an athlete that the power was
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Speaker 2: so dominant that he got by for so long. I
15:56
Speaker 2: like you said, it felt like a guy that wasn't
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Speaker 2: in the greatest of shape. He was looking for the ko,
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Speaker 2: looking for the power shots only, and again that works
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Speaker 2: versus that kind of get tender, that kind of fighter.
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Speaker 2: When you go up in talent, it doesn't work that way.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, it's cool when you fighting guys that no
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Speaker 2: one really knows what cares about. But when you get
16:15
Speaker 2: the bigger fights, if he somehow fights a Usek or
16:18
Speaker 2: if he fights Fury again, or if he fights Joshua,
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Speaker 2: that it ain't gonna work. That it's not gonna work.
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Speaker 2: And I get it, Like he's about I think he's forty,
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Speaker 2: so he's at the end of the road anyway. But
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Speaker 2: this don't work. We've seen enough of it. I'm glad
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Speaker 2: he won. But for the most part, man, we don't
16:35
Speaker 2: take Deontay Water seriously anymore as a boxer. We really
16:38
Speaker 2: don't like he had his opportunity and unfortunately he kind
16:42
Speaker 2: of let us down at the end of the day. Now,
16:44
Speaker 2: you can make argument that the first Fury fight wasn't
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Speaker 2: a draw. You can make argument that he won that one,
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Speaker 2: but man, we saw the other two, so it is
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Speaker 2: what it is.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, props to him and Shazar for putting
16:57
Speaker 3: on a very entertaining fight. I mean they both fell
17:00
Speaker 3: on top of each other like twice. Gizora went through
17:03
Speaker 3: the ropes twice. They both got actually knocked down at
17:08
Speaker 3: least once each and it was just crazy. It was
17:11
Speaker 3: like straight up brawl. No, even Gizoro, he wasn't really
17:15
Speaker 3: doing anything you know, skillful or he was, he was
17:18
Speaker 3: kind of doing the same thing. So also Gizura, let's
17:21
Speaker 3: keep in mind, my guy here is his record is
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Speaker 3: thirty six and fourteen losses, Like that's that's a lot.
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Speaker 3: We talked on the show about how a few losses
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Speaker 3: will kind of hurt your career. But fourteen.
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Speaker 2: If you got fourteen losses, you're not fight on weekends? Uh,
17:37
Speaker 2: you fin on Wednesdays, Thursdays, Friday after word going happy hour?
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Speaker 2: Asty losses bad, You're not fights is not all It's
17:48
Speaker 2: not all weekends, bro. I'm sorry, I'm sorry you fight face.
17:54
Speaker 3: Well and I think maybe honestly, this this this speaks
17:58
Speaker 3: to more about the state of the heavy weight division,
18:00
Speaker 3: is that he's a name because there's so few stars
18:03
Speaker 3: out there, and you know, British Bosting has a lot
18:05
Speaker 3: of heavyweights. I think that's more a condemnation of our
18:08
Speaker 3: heavyweights today, right right.
18:10
Speaker 2: Right, that's correct, yeah, correct.
18:14
Speaker 3: So I don't know. I mean, I I've never seen
18:16
Speaker 3: Chazora as like an elite fighter, you know, top to
18:19
Speaker 3: top of there. But you keep seeing his name come
18:21
Speaker 3: up over and over, and then he fights the same
18:23
Speaker 3: guys you know he fought, He fought Fury too, and
18:26
Speaker 3: he thought ousik. I'm pretty sure, so he still gets
18:30
Speaker 3: to fight the big names. But I don't know, I mean,
18:33
Speaker 3: I I guess, I guess. The thing I want to
18:36
Speaker 3: say that I really want to say about this is
18:38
Speaker 3: that it was very exciting because it was these two guys.
18:43
Speaker 3: If it was these two guys against any other guys,
18:46
Speaker 3: we wouldn't have had as much of an entertaining fight
18:49
Speaker 3: in a spectacle. But I don't know. I mean, I'll
18:53
Speaker 3: watch the ante again. I can't. I can't help it. Again.
18:56
Speaker 3: I've said this before. It could be a nostalgia for
18:58
Speaker 3: the you know, the the lack of the black American
19:02
Speaker 3: heavyweight star that we have not had in a long time.
19:07
Speaker 3: And uh, you know, I hope that there's more coming
19:09
Speaker 3: in the future if Deonte is on his way out.
19:11
Speaker 3: But U it's it's it's hard to stay away. It's
19:14
Speaker 3: like it's like a fast and furious movie. They're up
19:16
Speaker 3: to ten. You know, I'm gonna be in the theater
19:18
Speaker 3: for eleven. There's no goddamn way I'm not. You know,
19:20
Speaker 3: those movies are not good, They're terrible. But damn if
19:23
Speaker 3: I'm if I'm not gonna be in the theater for
19:25
Speaker 3: eleven and ask them to make like six more please.
19:27
Speaker 2: I'm not rolling with that, but coming from.
19:32
Speaker 3: Sometimes you just want to have a few, have a
19:34
Speaker 3: bunch of drinks, and you'll watch something stupid in a
19:36
Speaker 3: movie theater or on TV during a boxing match.
19:41
Speaker 2: All right, I'll give you that one.
19:43
Speaker 3: All right, give me that, Give me that some Sometimes
19:46
Speaker 3: I drink. Sometimes I drink and I do dumb shit
19:48
Speaker 3: that's entertaining.
19:49
Speaker 2: So I'll walk it too.
19:51
Speaker 3: Walk it two right. Thoughts of the future. On the future, here,
19:57
Speaker 3: we've got dmit you Vival coming back to fight a
20:00
Speaker 3: mandatory challenger German guy named Michael uh effort or effer
20:05
Speaker 3: I'm not sure how to pronounce it. Sorry, he's thirteen
20:07
Speaker 3: and one, so you know, young guy, uh mandatory fight.
20:10
Speaker 3: Uh So this is gonna be in May thirtieth. Uh
20:14
Speaker 3: Beville recovering from back surgery. You know, of course, already
20:19
Speaker 3: people on Instagram are starting, you know, whining, saying, oh,
20:22
Speaker 3: he's fighting with nobody, he's fighting an uber driver. Their
20:25
Speaker 3: favorite little catchphrases to say, yeah, yeah, yeah.
20:28
Speaker 1: Uh.
20:28
Speaker 3: First of all, it's a mandatory. Second of all, everybody
20:32
Speaker 3: you know deserves a tuna fight. And to give Bevill credit,
20:38
Speaker 3: they made Benavita is a mandatory. He ducked Benavitas, but
20:41
Speaker 3: he gave up the belt. He walked away. They gave
20:43
Speaker 3: him a choice this or that, and you know he
20:46
Speaker 3: gave him the belt to Benavida. So okay, you know,
20:49
Speaker 3: well that's he made his choice. Cool, you know he
20:51
Speaker 3: can he can rock with it. But so I considered
20:53
Speaker 3: it a tuna fight. But does this mean that there
20:56
Speaker 3: it's a potential fight with Benavidez coming later this year.
20:59
Speaker 3: Because keep in mind, and have we heard shit from
21:02
Speaker 3: Archer better b of like he was supposed to fight recently.
21:07
Speaker 3: I forget which card he was going to be on,
21:09
Speaker 3: but he backed out for he gave no reason, just
21:12
Speaker 3: fight was canceled whatever. You know, of course, talks of
21:16
Speaker 3: a trilogy, But is my man on a milk carton
21:19
Speaker 3: somewhere and out there in Eastern Europe, like what the
21:21
Speaker 3: hell happened? Which is okay? You know, if better beev
21:25
Speaker 3: wants to walk away, amazing fighter, amazing career, no sche no,
21:29
Speaker 3: no disrespect to the man, but this but Beovile and
21:33
Speaker 3: Betavide is of the fight to make right? Is that
21:34
Speaker 3: what we're going to see? Do you think it'll happen?
21:38
Speaker 2: I think later, after, after May, I think we get
21:42
Speaker 2: another batch of fights toward the end of the year,
21:45
Speaker 2: towards late third quarter, early fourth quarter, that fights will
21:49
Speaker 2: be made. I think if your past may first, and
21:51
Speaker 2: then I think we'll see the other fights on the
21:53
Speaker 2: back half of the years are getting made.
21:55
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I did. I was on record saying
21:58
Speaker 3: that I wanted to see a Better Be of People trilogy.
22:01
Speaker 3: I'll still take it, of course, But really betterb is
22:04
Speaker 3: not getting any younger, and he's, like I said, he's
22:07
Speaker 3: his career, his legacy is secure. The man's you know,
22:11
Speaker 3: career is this solid. And he even though he lost
22:15
Speaker 3: to Beevo, that does not in any way diminish skill
22:19
Speaker 3: what he's achieved in the ring. You know, just a
22:21
Speaker 3: just an amazing fighter. Uh and I think that it's
22:25
Speaker 3: probably best to kind of move on to the next,
22:27
Speaker 3: the next big star. You know, Bevo is a star.
22:30
Speaker 3: I think he's still going to come back, come back
22:33
Speaker 3: a start. Him being away for an injury isn't going
22:35
Speaker 3: to affect that at all. But Benavitez has been has
22:37
Speaker 3: been calling him out for a long time, and it's
22:39
Speaker 3: time for Benavitez to show that he can actually take
22:43
Speaker 3: on the competition, elite competition. So as it stands, that
22:49
Speaker 3: is the fight that I want to see, probably more
22:51
Speaker 3: than anything this year, is Bevo versus Benavitez, and I
22:54
Speaker 3: think it's going to be that would be the the
22:58
Speaker 3: biggest mega fight, the bigg closest thing to a mega
23:01
Speaker 3: fight that I can imagine for this year. I don't
23:03
Speaker 3: know about you. There's anything else you think could come close.
23:10
Speaker 2: Let's wait and see. Let's wait and see, because things
23:12
Speaker 2: have a way of happening out of nowhere, So let's
23:16
Speaker 2: wait and see. As of right now, you're probably correct,
23:19
Speaker 2: but let's let's just wait and see. You just never know.
23:23
Speaker 2: You never know. Boxings were like that. Sometimes they throw
23:26
Speaker 2: us one that release expected.
23:29
Speaker 3: I just see Benevetez, you know, going around calling out
23:33
Speaker 3: the name, saying he's ready, he wants the challenge, and
23:36
Speaker 3: getting ducked and just not getting the opportunity. He's fighting
23:39
Speaker 3: Zudula Ramirez at cruiserweight, and you know, he's trying to
23:43
Speaker 3: show that he belongs in that upper weight class because
23:46
Speaker 3: he went from light heavyweight to cruiserweight. People are saying that,
23:49
Speaker 3: you know, he that he ducked better b IF. But
23:52
Speaker 3: they said they were talking to each other and said, hey,
23:54
Speaker 3: we'll fight each other. I'd like to fight you, they said,
23:56
Speaker 3: to the back and forth and said I would like
23:58
Speaker 3: to take that fight. I just say, I said, don't
24:00
Speaker 3: know what the status of better our Tour, Better BEV
24:04
Speaker 3: is right now. And God, I wish I could remember
24:07
Speaker 3: which fight it was. It was a recent one. It
24:09
Speaker 3: was a big one that he was supposed to fight
24:11
Speaker 3: in and he just it was canceled with no reason
24:17
Speaker 3: given and no indication of like, well we're scheduled. Maybe
24:19
Speaker 3: we'll look at the future, you know that kind of thing.
24:22
Speaker 3: He just has been off the radar. So I think
24:25
Speaker 3: we should move on from the trilogy. And yeah, I
24:29
Speaker 3: think it's it's been a beat this his.
24:31
Speaker 2: Time, So I agree, and he wants to be I
24:34
Speaker 2: think with him. The thingue you got to think about
24:36
Speaker 2: is he's not trying to du fight to only fight
24:39
Speaker 2: once a year. He's trying to fight multiple times a
24:42
Speaker 2: year and trying to make things of the show. So
24:44
Speaker 2: you got to give respect to.
24:45
Speaker 3: That, agreed. And he's in a great position right now
24:47
Speaker 3: because he's he's got a lot of fame. He's not
24:49
Speaker 3: you know, top tier yet, not because of his skill
24:52
Speaker 3: or lack of it or anything like that. He just
24:54
Speaker 3: he hasn't popped in the way that that he deserves to.
24:58
Speaker 3: Maybe the Seclein Demo fight will help, But he's got
25:00
Speaker 3: the skills, he's got the performances or you know, exciting,
25:04
Speaker 3: he gets the knockouts, he get the stoppages, and yeah,
25:08
Speaker 3: he's not just he's not chilling for like two years
25:11
Speaker 3: kind of waiting for somebody like he's out there. So yeah,
25:15
Speaker 3: I want to see. I want to see. I want
25:17
Speaker 3: to see that fight. Dammit. That's my Canello Crawford for
25:20
Speaker 3: this year. For twenty twenty six. Somebody else has been
25:23
Speaker 3: out of the ring for a while. Errol Spence apparently
25:26
Speaker 3: he's coming back, planning to come back to fight Tim Zuo,
25:29
Speaker 3: who just beat Dennis Dennis Nudia over the weekend another guy.
25:34
Speaker 3: Spence has not been in the ring since the fight
25:36
Speaker 3: with Bud Crawford in twenty twenty three, So what do
25:39
Speaker 3: we think? Will this be another key Thurman situation? Do
25:41
Speaker 3: we want to see him back?
25:43
Speaker 2: Hey? Man? The last time I saw Earl Spence and ring,
25:46
Speaker 2: I texted person I know very well that he is
25:48
Speaker 2: a doctor, and I was like, hey, why does it
25:52
Speaker 2: look like he's reacting two and a half seconds late
25:55
Speaker 2: on all the left hooks? And he was like, he
25:57
Speaker 2: should not be fighting. It's reason why the states you
26:00
Speaker 2: can get fights in certain states you can't because certain
26:03
Speaker 2: states probably would not have passed the physical for him.
26:06
Speaker 2: There is no way he should be fighting. Man, If
26:08
Speaker 2: he couldn't see leve hooks three years ago, he ain't
26:11
Speaker 2: gonna gonna see him today and six months and in
26:14
Speaker 2: five months. So to be honest with you, I wish
26:17
Speaker 2: Earl would retire. I know he made a lot of
26:18
Speaker 2: money that last fight. I've heard he's pretty good at money,
26:22
Speaker 2: SOID I don't think he blew it. I hope he
26:24
Speaker 2: just chills. Man, We don't. He has nothing else to prove.
26:27
Speaker 2: He has nothing else We know what he went through
26:29
Speaker 2: with the accidents outside of the ring. We know what
26:32
Speaker 2: happened in the last fight. I just don't think it's
26:34
Speaker 2: a good idea. I don't I'm I'm not a fan.
26:37
Speaker 2: And also three years is a long time to go
26:40
Speaker 2: without fighting. That's a long time, man, Like, we don't
26:44
Speaker 2: have a lot of success rates for guys coming back
26:46
Speaker 2: after that kind of hiatus.
26:49
Speaker 3: That's true. I mean people say just generally speaking that
26:52
Speaker 3: you know, when they get old and retire, it's always retirement,
26:55
Speaker 3: that kind of not doing anything, not doing enough to
26:58
Speaker 3: kind of least people to go downhill term health wise.
27:01
Speaker 3: I think in a way it can be translated to
27:03
Speaker 3: boxing is that you can't stay at the top level
27:06
Speaker 3: if you're not actually in the ring that often, you know.
27:08
Speaker 3: I of course I'm repeating myself because I just said,
27:11
Speaker 3: you know, if you're in the gym every single day
27:13
Speaker 3: and sparring, it's not going to be the same. I
27:16
Speaker 3: don't know. I feel like with everything, you know, getting
27:20
Speaker 3: into a stadium with thousands of people screaming, the noise,
27:23
Speaker 3: all that, like, that's something that I think you can
27:25
Speaker 3: just get not used to, and then you know, you
27:30
Speaker 3: got to be on point on everything on fight night.
27:33
Speaker 3: You know one hundred percent of your mental, physical, you
27:37
Speaker 3: know your surroundings, all that be comfortable with that, and
27:40
Speaker 3: I yeah, I just don't think. I think if you're
27:42
Speaker 3: going to chill for three years and not fight, you
27:43
Speaker 3: should probably just retire, especially if you've had a long,
27:47
Speaker 3: long career. Then it's not because of injury, I will say, though,
27:51
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know what did your doctor friends say,
27:53
Speaker 3: because there's one thing, is you know, reacting slowly because
27:56
Speaker 3: the guy you're fighting is elite and he's so much faster,
27:59
Speaker 3: or was there a reason could potentially be a bit concert.
28:02
Speaker 2: When I believe the first knockdown was in a round
28:05
Speaker 2: two of that fight. It's not mistaken. I think the
28:07
Speaker 2: first one was round two. After that knockdown, he said,
28:11
Speaker 2: this fight's over and for the safety of Earl, this
28:14
Speaker 2: fight he's be stopped because he's simply reacting too late.
28:19
Speaker 2: All you've sparred before, right, We all box, play, fought whatever.
28:24
Speaker 2: We all have natural reactions that are somewhat normal in general.
28:29
Speaker 2: It's not a tape glay, it's not a lag, it's
28:32
Speaker 2: not a firestick load. It's relatively a situation where your
28:36
Speaker 2: reflexes are somewhat compatible to whoever's trying to hit you.
28:40
Speaker 2: It felt like Tans Crawford was on regular TV and
28:45
Speaker 2: Earl Spence was on a firestick. That's how bad the
28:49
Speaker 2: timing was. And for those who know who have firesticks
28:52
Speaker 2: trying to have fight parties, please don't do that shit
28:55
Speaker 2: no more. We are all thrown adults pitching what happened.
28:58
Speaker 2: But with that being said, there was there was a lag.
29:01
Speaker 2: It felt like there was a lag when he was
29:04
Speaker 2: trying to fend certain punches, especially the left hook. Looking
29:07
Speaker 2: back at that fight, and he just couldn't either he
29:10
Speaker 2: either couldn't see it or he didn't couldn't see it
29:12
Speaker 2: until it was too late, and that was a big
29:15
Speaker 2: part of the problem that night. And I don't think
29:18
Speaker 2: that can be fixed. If you have vision issues that
29:21
Speaker 2: doesn't get fixed, that is what that is. And if
29:23
Speaker 2: that's the case, then we hadn't need to have a
29:25
Speaker 2: whole different conversation because we don't need is another boxer
29:28
Speaker 2: being impaired currently, We don't need that well.
29:31
Speaker 3: And that's a really interesting point because I did see
29:33
Speaker 3: the Crawford Spence fight when it happened live, and you know,
29:37
Speaker 3: all My takeaway was what a lot of people's takeaway was,
29:40
Speaker 3: Holy shit, Bud Crawford is the best. You know, he's amazing.
29:43
Speaker 3: What an incredible performance. But now that you mentioned that,
29:45
Speaker 3: I really should go back and watch it again with
29:47
Speaker 3: what you said in mind, because it didn't even occur
29:50
Speaker 3: to me at the time. All it occurred to me
29:52
Speaker 3: was that Aero Spence just couldn't keep up with Budd,
29:54
Speaker 3: who is the shit, you know, which is a valid
29:57
Speaker 3: thing to think if you're if you've seen Bud fight
30:00
Speaker 3: a few times, you know what I mean. But no,
30:02
Speaker 3: I really am definitely going to check that out again,
30:05
Speaker 3: and that would recommend everybody watching this look up the
30:08
Speaker 3: Bud Crawford versus Aero Spence fight from twenty twenty three
30:13
Speaker 3: if you haven't seen it at the not even to
30:15
Speaker 3: kind of dissect it in terms of just to see
30:17
Speaker 3: but in the ring just looking amazing his best performance
30:19
Speaker 3: at the time. Definitely worth watching on YouTube. But yeah,
30:23
Speaker 3: I think we should also kind of see if there
30:26
Speaker 3: was something to it that you noticed, because I'll tell
30:30
Speaker 3: you straight up, it never occurred me that there was
30:33
Speaker 3: a medical issue.
30:34
Speaker 2: But he could say either his reflections are very slow
30:39
Speaker 2: or he just couldn't see the punches. Why he couldn't
30:42
Speaker 2: see them because when he was reacting, it was like
30:44
Speaker 2: bay he couldn't see him way too late. And either
30:47
Speaker 2: way it's bad, like either way he was screwed either way.
30:50
Speaker 2: But it was one of those things where you felt
30:53
Speaker 2: sorry for after a while because after round two he
30:55
Speaker 2: had no chance winning that fight. Not like he had
30:59
Speaker 2: zero chance way in that fight.
31:00
Speaker 3: Yeah, and let's not forget the Spence turned pro back
31:02
Speaker 3: in twenty twelve, so that is a long time. And
31:07
Speaker 3: you know, and again you made a very good point.
31:09
Speaker 3: I think this is a thing that you know, we're
31:12
Speaker 3: seeing now with a lot of fighters either coming back,
31:14
Speaker 3: well we've always seen it, but fighters coming back or
31:17
Speaker 3: sticking around longer than they should have could be pride.
31:20
Speaker 3: But there are some people out there who like Keith Thurmant,
31:24
Speaker 3: like Aero Spence, like even Deonte not having the greatest record,
31:28
Speaker 3: you know, he's he was a star and he was
31:30
Speaker 3: a star that we needed for the time. You guys
31:32
Speaker 3: don't have anything to prove. You know, your your big
31:35
Speaker 3: names put on great performances.
31:37
Speaker 2: But I don't know, they need money. People need money.
31:41
Speaker 2: These people have kids and girlfriends, and wives and ex
31:45
Speaker 2: wives and mistress and only fans shicks. They need money.
31:48
Speaker 2: The reason why they're still fighting they need money. The
31:51
Speaker 2: reason why if Floyd Mayweather is scheduled to fight multiple
31:54
Speaker 2: times within the next six months, he needs money. Why
31:57
Speaker 2: he needs money. That's a whole different show for a
32:00
Speaker 2: whole different day. And I really don't want to get
32:02
Speaker 2: into that because I don't like count other men's pockets.
32:04
Speaker 2: But the reason why people are fighting at the end
32:06
Speaker 2: of their career, and at the end of their career,
32:09
Speaker 2: if the taxes or they will a lot of money
32:11
Speaker 2: to somebody, and that is neither thing is good. But
32:14
Speaker 2: that's why you see all these guys still fighting because
32:17
Speaker 2: they have no other way to make money. There's no
32:19
Speaker 2: other trade that they have. They can't go do plumbing
32:22
Speaker 2: and do electrical work. That ain't the case. They are
32:25
Speaker 2: boxers and the only way they know how to make
32:26
Speaker 2: money is by boxing. Deontay Water is gonna fight until
32:29
Speaker 2: he can't fight no more playing and simple Wight. He
32:33
Speaker 2: might fight four more times if there's a check for him,
32:36
Speaker 2: He's gonna fight. He's gonna fight. And that's just how
32:38
Speaker 2: it is, especially with the economy the way it is
32:40
Speaker 2: right now. People got a lot of kids, a lot
32:42
Speaker 2: of responsibilities. He's gonna keep fighting. Him winning last Weekend
32:47
Speaker 2: gives him probably a couple more fights if he wants it.
32:50
Speaker 2: That's the crazy part.
32:51
Speaker 3: That's fair. And like I said, the consensus on the
32:54
Speaker 3: Wilder fight was that it was very ridiculous but very entertaining,
32:57
Speaker 3: and people who maybe weren't didn't follow and just tuned in.
33:02
Speaker 3: Maybe they might say, hey, we're gonna we want to
33:04
Speaker 3: see this guy back again because he puts on a
33:06
Speaker 3: show in the ring, for sure, I don't know. But
33:09
Speaker 3: also the man did get caught so many times with
33:12
Speaker 3: a lot of really really clean punches by Derek Tazora.
33:15
Speaker 3: Don't know what that what that means in terms of power,
33:18
Speaker 3: because Deonta could definitely take take a hit, but that
33:21
Speaker 3: ship adds up, and you know, for for anybody that
33:24
Speaker 3: ship you can't you can only take so many punches
33:26
Speaker 3: to the head for your you know, throughout your life
33:29
Speaker 3: before something something bad happens. But no, it makes sense.
33:33
Speaker 3: I mean, actually shout out to shout out to Canelo today.
33:39
Speaker 3: I just saw a news article that he officially is
33:41
Speaker 3: enrolling in college.
33:42
Speaker 2: Did you hear?
33:42
Speaker 3: Did you see that or hear about that.
33:45
Speaker 2: I did not ask you to hear though.
33:47
Speaker 3: Yeah, he enrolled in the University of San Diego, and
33:51
Speaker 3: he left school when he was a kid to pursue boxing.
33:54
Speaker 3: I don't know exactly when, but he must have been,
33:56
Speaker 3: you know, a teenager, because he went pro very young.
33:59
Speaker 3: And and he just put up a little this cute
34:01
Speaker 3: little plague that said a first day of school by teachers,
34:04
Speaker 3: you know, such and such. You know, I want to
34:06
Speaker 3: be a businessman. It's like the kids used, you know,
34:08
Speaker 3: for elementary but uh, I thought that was really cool.
34:13
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, well you all clearly we've all said
34:15
Speaker 3: the Canelos. You know, he's got a couple of fights
34:16
Speaker 3: left on contract. Who knows what's gonna what's gonna happen,
34:20
Speaker 3: but he's probably playing an exit plan. The man isn't
34:23
Speaker 3: hurting for money. But you know, yeah, maybe we're going
34:26
Speaker 3: to see more. He's already has a lot of brand deals.
34:29
Speaker 3: Maybe that's what he's gonna be doing. You know, Canilo
34:30
Speaker 3: brand's clothing, he's got his his uh alcoholic drinks VMC drinks.
34:37
Speaker 3: Our producer just just told us that canel left school
34:40
Speaker 3: when he was fifteen. Years old, which is wild. He
34:44
Speaker 3: made a right decision, sure, absolutely, but yeah, I was
34:47
Speaker 3: actually really it was really cool to see that, to
34:49
Speaker 3: see that, you know, he's uh, he's not gonna ideally
34:53
Speaker 3: if he retires soon, which he probably will, he's not
34:56
Speaker 3: just gonna end up, you know, crashing out or just
34:58
Speaker 3: or disappearing and kind of if you never hear from
35:00
Speaker 3: him again, maybe he'll be involved in if not, the
35:03
Speaker 3: fight world, maybe you know, brands and this and that.
35:05
Speaker 3: Especially he's good his with his legacy too. He's got
35:08
Speaker 3: to be a star definitely in Mexico for a long
35:10
Speaker 3: long time. People Mexicans still love Hulus Stavez, you know,
35:12
Speaker 3: thirty years later. So he was at the at the
35:19
Speaker 3: Ama Lavarete versus Sugar Nuns fight that I went to.
35:23
Speaker 3: He was ringside, which is awesome. Who as Chavis was
35:27
Speaker 3: so so yeah, I don't know, I mean, I think
35:29
Speaker 3: that's a problem. I think I guess this is with
35:31
Speaker 3: any type of celebrity, any type of like not just sports.
35:36
Speaker 3: But there's got to be finding financial education, damn it
35:39
Speaker 3: for these folks, not just like teaching people to how
35:42
Speaker 3: to hit a bag, but also like how to manage
35:44
Speaker 3: their damn money. And invest, but.
35:45
Speaker 2: Also something to do. Right, You can't box forever, So
35:48
Speaker 2: what happens when you stop boxing? What are you gonna do?
35:51
Speaker 2: Like just your day to day, what are you gonna do?
35:53
Speaker 2: You gotta have a plan, Like you mentioned Sean Porter
35:56
Speaker 2: earlier in the show, like he's always been active with media.
36:00
Speaker 2: It's like he always had a plan. He looked at
36:02
Speaker 2: andre Ward very heavily ended up promoting, doing commentary, media work,
36:07
Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. So all that's really good.
36:10
Speaker 2: All that is really good, but we need more of that.
36:12
Speaker 2: But also you got to plan that out. You can't
36:15
Speaker 2: just retire and be like, oh, I'm going to school.
36:17
Speaker 2: No no, no, no not. You've got to have self in
36:19
Speaker 2: motion before your last round, because we all know your
36:22
Speaker 2: last round can come when you least expect it.
36:25
Speaker 3: So so yeah, well it's interesting that you say that
36:29
Speaker 3: because that actually came up in my interview with Sean Porter,
36:31
Speaker 3: which is available now on all our audio platforms and
36:34
Speaker 3: on YouTube. I asked him how a retirement was treating
36:36
Speaker 3: him and whether he ever missed the boxing life. He
36:40
Speaker 3: said he didn't miss it and that he loved being retired,
36:42
Speaker 3: and then he put stuff in place beforehand. He said
36:45
Speaker 3: that he had an idea of what he wanted to
36:47
Speaker 3: do and he had it set up for when he
36:49
Speaker 3: walked away, he moved into you know, the commentary, all
36:52
Speaker 3: that stuff, the media things. So, you know, good for him,
36:55
Speaker 3: you know, it definitely seems to be a great example
36:57
Speaker 3: of just that's that's a glay Sean Porter. But he
37:01
Speaker 3: did give us an interview. But he seems to be
37:03
Speaker 3: a great example not just in terms of post retirement,
37:07
Speaker 3: but also just how he moves in the sport. Again,
37:09
Speaker 3: really nice guy, just seems very very enthusiastic about you know,
37:13
Speaker 3: talking with people and promoting things. A lot of people
37:17
Speaker 3: can learn a lot from John Porter, and so, you know,
37:20
Speaker 3: shout out to him for giving us on that interview.
37:22
Speaker 3: I'm still very very stuck about it. I'm still over
37:24
Speaker 3: the moon about it a week later, if you can't tell.
37:30
Speaker 3: So when we finish up here, Before we finish up here,
37:33
Speaker 3: we actually have an announcement about the show. So this
37:37
Speaker 3: is something that I was considering doing and trying to
37:39
Speaker 3: figure out, you know the logistics of it. But we've
37:42
Speaker 3: been doing this every every other week. Sometimes, you know,
37:45
Speaker 3: there's not a lot of boxing news. There's not enough
37:47
Speaker 3: boxing news to do every single week. But I definitely
37:51
Speaker 3: wanted to figure out a way to get weekly episodes.
37:54
Speaker 3: And after last week's interview and the next week's interview
37:58
Speaker 3: that we have as well coming up with the fighters
37:59
Speaker 3: at the and Phoenix, we're gonna do it. We're gonna
38:02
Speaker 3: give this a shot. Keep in mind, our show still
38:04
Speaker 3: kind of learning, growing and frigging out the details. But
38:07
Speaker 3: at least let's call it for like, let's call it
38:09
Speaker 3: the summer series. The Mixed Company Podcast will be dropping
38:14
Speaker 3: weekly episodes every Thursday. Some of them will be mini sos,
38:18
Speaker 3: you know, to be clear, you know, we'll do you know,
38:21
Speaker 3: if it's an interview, it'll be like fifteen twenty minutes.
38:24
Speaker 3: Maybe we'll do like thirty with a guest or maybe
38:26
Speaker 3: a specific topic. We'll pick certain topics to discuss. But
38:29
Speaker 3: we want to give this a shot, and you know,
38:32
Speaker 3: we can commit definitely for all of April and then
38:36
Speaker 3: we just kind of see how it goes, because we
38:38
Speaker 3: we're going to get great place. We love doing the show,
38:41
Speaker 3: and honestly, we have a wave with all of the
38:45
Speaker 3: attention we're getting from the show and porterview on social media, followers, commentaries,
38:48
Speaker 3: et cetera. We want to be consistent, you know, every
38:52
Speaker 3: every week. All of my favorite podcasts are once a week,
38:56
Speaker 3: so I kind of didn't want to be left in
38:58
Speaker 3: the left in the dust with that. So yeah, exclusive
39:02
Speaker 3: official announcement. Starting next week April sixteenth, we will be
39:09
Speaker 3: doing weekly episodes of this show. And very excited we
39:13
Speaker 3: got coming down the pike. So we'll be And the
39:15
Speaker 3: cool thing too is we'll be able to get into
39:16
Speaker 3: more detailed discussions about specific fighters, about specific fights coming up,
39:21
Speaker 3: maybe someone we will talk about it, you know, a
39:24
Speaker 3: historic fight and why it's important this and kind of that.
39:26
Speaker 3: So we're definitely going to have the friends of the
39:29
Speaker 3: show come on by and join in the discussions with us.
39:33
Speaker 3: So yeah, very very excited for what's coming down the pike.
39:36
Speaker 3: And just can't thank everybody enough for your support for
39:39
Speaker 3: the Mixed Company podcast so far. Oh and sorry, just
39:42
Speaker 3: to make sure I don't forget, shout out to Emily Gurdon,
39:45
Speaker 3: friend of the show, former guests. She was the person
39:47
Speaker 3: that invited the show over to the press conference to
39:49
Speaker 3: meet Sean Porter. So yeah, you know, we've gotten a
39:52
Speaker 3: lot of we're building a lot of great relationships with
39:55
Speaker 3: people in the boxing scene, and I just can't thank
39:59
Speaker 3: everyon buddy enough and of course Jamison, thanks to you.
40:03
Speaker 3: Jabari our producer, thanks to you for you know, putting
40:06
Speaker 3: all this together and making this happen. It's just it's
40:08
Speaker 3: just been a wild, wild ride and I can't wait
40:10
Speaker 3: to see what else happens going forward.
40:13
Speaker 2: It's been a fun ride. It's been cool. Man. I
40:15
Speaker 2: think it's a great idea. It's a great breath of
40:17
Speaker 2: fresh air. So it'll be fun to see what new
40:20
Speaker 2: wrinkles occur and we'll take it from there.
40:23
Speaker 3: Honestly, I everything this happens so far with meeting you know,
40:26
Speaker 3: fighters and getting involved to medium, but I never expected
40:29
Speaker 3: any of that. I just thought we'd be doing this
40:30
Speaker 3: for fun and see what comes of it. So anything
40:33
Speaker 3: going on right now is like extra, like extra benefits
40:38
Speaker 3: to like all the cool shit that I get to do.
40:40
Speaker 3: I've gotten to people to talk to and we're just
40:43
Speaker 3: keep it running. So we'll wrap this up for now.
40:45
Speaker 3: And Jamison, what where can people find you on social media?
40:49
Speaker 2: At Twitter at the Jamison That's best spot. I've got
40:52
Speaker 2: some fights coming up, so I can't wait.
40:54
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41:28
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41:31
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