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#481 "The Great Campaign Against The Great Reset" With Jason Jones · Claymore: Become Who You Are

• 0:09
  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Become who you Are podcast, a production of the John Paul II Renewal Center.
• 0:14
  Speaker 1: I'm Jack Riggert, your host.
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: I'm glad you're with me.
• 0:16
  Speaker 1: Just a reminder that I hope you paid your federal income tax and your state income tax yesterday.
• 0:22
  Speaker 1: I was thinking just I'm sure you are too right.
• 0:26
  Speaker 1: You know between federal income tax and state income tax and real estate income taxes.
• 0:31
  Speaker 1: You know sales tax on my car, for my license and stickers, and you know everything's taxed today, even the air we breathe, which literally is with the climate hoax and just one thing after another.
• 0:44
  Speaker 1: You know we could do a whole show on socialism, couldn't we?
• 0:48
  Speaker 1: And what a sham this has become in the United States, how socialism always turns into tyranny.
• 0:54
  Speaker 1: But anyways, this is the progressive United States that we live in, our founding fathers and the generations that came in.
• 1:03
  Speaker 1: You know you can go back and you know they argued whether there should be any federal income tax at all, collected at one time, but anyways, they settled on a small amount that's just grown out of control, as we all know funding deep state corruption, wars, pandemics.
• 1:19
  Speaker 1: You know generations of rule, ruined families on welfare.
• 1:23
  Speaker 1: We now pay for abortion, gender ideologies, trans operations, even in the military.
• 1:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, can you imagine soldiers that have to go to war taking orders from a man suffering from a mental illness who dresses up with lipstick and does this here and puts a dress and high heels on, pretending to be a woman, and stands up in front of you with a five o'clock shadow telling you how to fight the enemy?
• 1:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's making a mockery, of course, out of our warriors and of course that's the point, isn't it?
• 1:54
  Speaker 1: And we fund it all.
• 1:56
  Speaker 1: We fund it all.
• 1:57
  Speaker 1: Well, the good news.
• 1:58
  Speaker 1: We have faith in our Lord and Savior, jesus Christ, and, thank God, in the midst of chaos, we find a good life.
• 2:05
  Speaker 1: We have to remember that so important and that's why I'm looking forward to today's interview with Jason Jones.
• 2:13
  Speaker 1: What an incredible guy.
• 2:15
  Speaker 1: And before I get to that interview, when I think about the good life, it's the more time that goes by, the more I see outside, the less time I spend on watching the news.
• 2:27
  Speaker 1: You know I want to know what's happening.
• 2:29
  Speaker 1: I have my sources, but no social media stuff.
• 2:32
  Speaker 1: In general, you know more prayer, the sacraments, being out in nature, spending time with family and friends.
• 2:38
  Speaker 1: You know, it's another free day outside.
• 2:41
  Speaker 1: Take a walk and look at the sun and the stars and feel the air and listen to the birds.
• 2:46
  Speaker 1: It's just so, so powerful, so beautiful and to be.
• 2:51
  Speaker 1: I'm surrounded by a community of believers who all do good, and that starts, of course, with letting Jesus Christ into your individual heart to do his work, to become a temple of the Holy Spirit and then go out and bring the true, the good and the beautiful into the world.
• 3:08
  Speaker 1: That's our job.
• 3:09
  Speaker 1: So our guest on today's show is one of those men who's really an inspiration, providing us a lens not only to understand the big picture but to put a plan of action inside.
• 3:21
  Speaker 1: There's a couple of different ways we can look at the world.
• 3:24
  Speaker 1: You know we can bury our head when we see all these evils around us and, you know, live in despair.
• 3:30
  Speaker 1: But that's not what we're challenged to do, is it?
• 3:32
  Speaker 1: You know we're born at this time for a reason, with a duty huh Again, first to be filled with divine life and love and then go out and become that divine life and love in the world.
• 3:42
  Speaker 1: Jason has got a new book coming out called the Great Campaign Against the Great Reset, and it's really a win-win-win situation.
• 3:49
  Speaker 1: Your life becomes better, full of meaning and purpose, the people around you that you surround with your love, and then you go out into the world and do things.
• 3:59
  Speaker 1: That's what we're supposed to do.
• 4:00
  Speaker 1: I love that he dedicates the book, or he has the first chapter dedicated, I should say, to young people.
• 4:08
  Speaker 1: And because we have to bring them hope, we have to show them.
• 4:11
  Speaker 1: Hey look, here's the battle.
• 4:12
  Speaker 1: It's a little complex, so here's the big picture.
• 4:16
  Speaker 1: This is what Jason does in his book and then it kind of drills down into what we can do about it.
• 4:21
  Speaker 1: I loved it.
• 4:27
  Speaker 1: He loves JRR Tolkien and the Lord of the Rings and the Hobbit and stuff.
• 4:28
  Speaker 1: And it says in this book you know, it's like in the great stories Mr Frodo says Samwise Gamgee, folks in these stories had lots of chances of turning back, only they didn't.
• 4:38
  Speaker 1: They kept going because they were holding on to something that there is some good in this world and it's worth fighting for.
• 4:44
  Speaker 1: So we look around and says you know, these past few years to this dystopian novel or thriller movie due to unprecedented oppression, violence all the way across the world, loss of rights, weaponization of science and technology how do you make sense of all this?
• 5:02
  Speaker 1: So Jason does this, and then he leaves no stone unturned to equip you with armor to protect yourself, defend yourself and your loved ones, and to bring our part, to do our part in this mission.
• 5:14
  Speaker 1: You know again, we were brought into this world at a particular time and a particular place by God, not to bury our heads in the sand, but filled with the confidence and courage that only God can give you, and then go out and do good things.
• 5:27
  Speaker 1: So glad you're with me.
• 5:28
  Speaker 1: Buckle up and get ready for today's episode.
• 5:31
  Speaker 1: I'm excited and grateful to have Jason Jones on the show today.
• 5:45
  Speaker 1: All the way from Hawaii, jason's a film producer, author, activist, popular podcast host and human rights worker.
• 5:52
  Speaker 1: He's the president of the Human Rights Education and Relief Organization, h-e-r-o, known for its two main programs, the Vulnerable People's Project and Movie to Movement, and executive producer of Bella.
• 6:06
  Speaker 1: That's one of my favorite movies of all time, pro-life uplifting.
• 6:10
  Speaker 1: If you haven't seen Bella, you're behind the eight ball.
• 6:12
  Speaker 1: Bella won several film industry awards, most notably the People's Choice Award in 2006 and the Toronto International Film Festival.
• 6:21
  Speaker 1: His tireless work for the pro-life movement was just recognized in a featured chapter in A Legacy of Life, a book honoring 50 of the greatest pro-life leaders of the last 50 years.
• 6:33
  Speaker 1: At the heart of everything he does is a mission to stand between the violent and the vulnerable, from the child in the womb to Christians in Nigeria, civilians in Ukraine to our former allies in Afghanistan.
• 6:45
  Speaker 1: Jason, it's really a pleasure to have you on the show, welcome.
• 6:49
  Speaker 2: Jack, thanks for having me on your show.
• 6:51
  Speaker 1: Well, I'll just add this the John Paul II Renewal Center, jason, is located in Illinois, so we're in the belly of the beast here With all the pro-life work that you do.
• 7:02
  Speaker 1: We're just radically pro-abortion here.
• 7:05
  Speaker 1: And if those young children, jason, you'll appreciate this, I'm sure that you're up on this but if they're fortunate enough to make it through their mother's womb, we've got the gender ideologies rendering them sterile, with puberty blockers, the cross-sex hormones literally mutilating their bodies, these poor young kids, and we're pushing this stuff.
• 7:24
  Speaker 1: I just got banned from a local library for speaking out on pornography in schools for fourth and fifth graders.
• 7:32
  Speaker 1: It's amazing.
• 7:34
  Speaker 1: So I want to talk about your book.
• 7:36
  Speaker 1: So much this great campaign against the great reset coming up.
• 7:40
  Speaker 1: But before we do, I just want to back up a little bit.
• 7:43
  Speaker 1: Give you a chance to talk about Divided Hearts of America, available on Amazon Prime right now incredible movie and then also the Vulnerable People's Project For people that don't know you, jason, I'd love to have you talk just a little about what you do.
• 7:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, you're doing some really frontline, dangerous stuff.
• 8:04
  Speaker 1: I've been following you for years and you've got some courage, jason.
• 8:09
  Speaker 1: God bless you and God bless you for the work you're doing so, you come in where you want to and maybe touch on those and anything else that's on your mind before we hit that book.
• 8:18
  Speaker 2: Sure, jack.
• 8:19
  Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I'm not a very courageous person.
• 8:21
  Speaker 2: What I do, though, is I lack the ability to anticipate consequences, which, in my work, that's like a little kid that doesn't know until he gets hurt that he shouldn't do things.
• 8:33
  Speaker 2: But I'm actually from Illinois.
• 8:36
  Speaker 2: I'm from the south suburbs.
• 8:39
  Speaker 2: I was raised in Holmwood, country Club Hill, bayless In fact.
• 8:44
  Speaker 2: Divided Hearts of America is a documentary I did with Benjamin Watson, former standout tight end for the New England Patriots, and I was raised in a community in Country Club Hills called Provincetown, and it's sort of the stand lot where we played football, benjamin Watson and I.
• 9:02
  Speaker 2: While we were shooting the movie, we went and we played catch.
• 9:05
  Speaker 1: Oh, what a night that's beautiful.
• 9:07
  Speaker 2: That was, yeah, you always have to give yourself these little Easter eggs, right?
• 9:10
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, yes.
• 9:13
  Speaker 2: You know, for me my whole journey started in Palos Hills in 1988.
• 9:18
  Speaker 2: I went to Amos Alonzo Stagg High School and was on the football team the day after her homecoming game actually on a Saturday morning, my high school girlfriend rode her bicycle to my house and came into my room and woke me up with the words I'm pregnant, so that we conspired to keep the baby and I would join the Army so I could provide for a child.
• 9:42
  Speaker 2: And on my 17th birthday I actually went to the recruiter's office and joined the Army.
• 9:48
  Speaker 2: It's just a couple of weeks after my 17th birthday.
• 9:51
  Speaker 2: I was on my way to Fort Benning, georgia.
• 9:54
  Speaker 2: While I was in Fort Benning Georgia, just a few weeks before graduating and coming home on a Sunday morning, I received a call from my high school girlfriend that her father beat her up and took her to get a forced third trimester abortion.
• 10:07
  Speaker 2: I never went to school.
• 10:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, I never went to church a day in my life.
• 10:11
  Speaker 2: You know this is the age before cable news.
• 10:14
  Speaker 2: My family didn't talk politics.
• 10:17
  Speaker 2: I didn't know in our country it was legal to destroy a child in the womb until I found out that my child was destroyed in the third trimester.
• 10:25
  Speaker 2: In fact I had begged my commander officer, my company commander, to call the police and he had to sit me down and say what are you talking about?
• 10:32
  Speaker 2: Why would we call the police?
• 10:34
  Speaker 2: That was sort of the inciting incident that really woke me up to violence against children and that was the birth of my passion to get between the violent and the vulnerable.
• 10:46
  Speaker 2: I was an infantryman and it was sort of to me my work always was, you know, threats to the innocent and the vulnerable, from the child in the womb to children after they're born.
• 10:57
  Speaker 2: It's just a continuity.
• 10:58
  Speaker 2: A child is a child.
• 10:59
  Speaker 2: So our work and my organization, hero Inc, with our two programs VPP, the Vulnerable People Project, and Movie to Movement you'll see a thread, and the thread that links us together is direct violent attacks on innocent human people, from the child in the womb to the Uyghur in concentration camps that are having their organs harvested in Chinese-occupied East Turkestan.
• 11:24
  Speaker 2: So if you look at my work and it doesn't make sense to a lot of people I think I'm all over the place and I say no, I'm not at all.
• 11:31
  Speaker 2: I've never been.
• 11:32
  Speaker 2: I've been very focused.
• 11:35
  Speaker 2: We do one thing two ways here at my organization.
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: We protect the vulnerable from violence, and we do that by promoting human dignity and inspiring solidarity.
• 11:46
  Speaker 2: You know that.
• 11:47
  Speaker 2: Hence, the movies are a great way to promulgate the truth about the human person.
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: And even our actions like.
• 11:53
  Speaker 2: We're the last organization that we know of American organization rescuing and resettling and hiding our Afghan allies that were left in the wake of the Biden's disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan.
• 12:04
  Speaker 2: That were left in the wake of the Biden's disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan.
• 12:07
  Speaker 2: Even in the work that we do, that is a work of mercy, but at the heart of what we're wanting to do is exemplify the dignity of these people and our responsibility to keep promises to those Afghan allies who we promised the United States government, made promises to and then abandoned.
• 12:21
  Speaker 2: So yeah, that's what we do.
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: Jason, when you talk about human dignity and then solidarity.
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: We've really lost that, haven't we?
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: When you think about those things, I want people listening just to really sit on what you're saying there, to see the individual human being.
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: Now we've lost sight of that.
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: Even speaking to young people now, they're so mixed up, their hearts are so mixed up they have a hard time seeing the truth, seeing what it means to be a human being, seeing the freedom that's innate within us that we're giving away.
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: We're being enslaved to these ideologies, being enslaved to sin, I think, when we're taking the life of young people in the womb, but also these gender ideologies being enslaved to sin, I think you know, when we're taking the life of young people in the womb, but also these gender ideologies and, like you said, even in war that you know we could pull out of, say, afghanistan, with no thought behind of those human beings and the human destruction, not only of the individual adults.
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: But they're married, they have families, they have you know.
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: It's amazing devastation, isn't it?
• 13:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that this is an audio-only podcast, correct.
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: Well, I can put up some clips if you're okay with it.
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: Well, I want to show you something while we're talking.
• 13:38
  Speaker 2: I don't want to go on the air, but I want to show it to you now.
• 13:40
  Speaker 2: You know I'm glad you brought that idea of families.
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: Show it to you now.
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: You know I'm glad you brought that idea of families.
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: You know, I think the reason why you know Catholic social teaching, when honestly deployed, is the greatest architecture of protection for the vulnerable.
• 13:54
  Speaker 2: The problem is in the Catholic Church.
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: We've seen what I call victimism.
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: I booked the great campaign against the Great Reset.
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: One of the five ideologies of evil that are part of this Great Reset is victimism.
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: Feigning concern for the vulnerable, for wealth, power and prestige.
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: We have seen in the Catholic Church, through techniques, strategies like the seamless garment that sought to compare the child in the womb or submerge the child in the womb in an ocean full of prudential issues.
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: An ocean full of prudential issues.
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: So I remember growing up, you know, in the 80s, even though I wasn't Catholic, I would hear this expression a lot seamless garment from Cardinal Bernadine and from Catholics, and then I came to understand after the abortion they would submerge the child in the womb in like an ocean of prudential issues, when you know the direct threats of violence to the vulnerable is not like incommensurate to whether or not you think minimum wage should be $12 or $15.
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: It's not liking commensurate to your positions in immigration usually.
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, there are times where you could, and I would even argue that opposing border security is actually abandoning the vulnerable to law and order and protection from the dangerous underground economy.
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: But I think so.
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: The misapplication or the abuse or misuse intentionally for wealth or power or to evade public censure or to gain acclaim, has weakened even the idea of Catholic social teaching amongst Catholics.
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: And I'm so glad that you brought up you know your battle with pornography in your local school library.
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: This you know.
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: The moral imagination of our young people has been absolutely and utterly obliterated by pornography.
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: Their moral imagination is being destroyed by TikTok and YouTube Reels and Facebook and Instagram Reels.
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: Like by TikTok and YouTube Reels and Facebook and Instagram Reels, they're just becoming addicted.
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: Humans learn through mimesis, we learn through watching other people.
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: We learn what to value, we learn what's important and just scroll on your phone through any of these social media apps and imagine the young, fresh, impressionable minds of young people.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: What are they learning?
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: What are they learning through mimesis?
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: On what is important?
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: And it's utterly catastrophic.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: The obliteration of the idea of gender is devastating, and that's why in my book, the Great Campaign Against the Great Reset, my first chapter is an introduction to young Americans, where I lay out very briefly for them the path to defeating the Great Reset.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: For them personally, is very simple.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: Not easy, but simple.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: Love God, love your parents, preserve your moral imagination so that you can properly experience erotic love within the sacrament of marriage.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: Create life, love and protect your children and, with your wife and your family, order your actions to the good of our posterity.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: This is how you be.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: If you look at everything the Great Reset is seeking to do.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: It is to break down the relationship between us and God, ourselves and our parents, and, really strikingly, it's damaging the ability of young people to even experience or even intellectually understand what eros is, erotic love is, and that eros, that love that takes place between a man and a woman in the sacrament of marriage, is the bond that creates, that holds society together.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: And when young people really can't even begin to intellectually understand what eros is, this is robbing them of not only their intellect but of their heart, and it's very damaging, and so I'm glad you brought that up.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: And this is the great struggle.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: And we can't look anywhere but the Catholic Church for the answer to this.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: That's the reality.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: There's nowhere else If not the Blessed Virgin Mary.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: Who would there have been If not for St Peter?
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: If St Peter would have not come back, who would have?
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: And if we, as lay Catholics today, part of the mystical body of Christ, are not light, if we're not salt, if we're not having the courage that you had to go down and it's not a comfortable thing to want to talk about sex and sexuality to public library, god forbid.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: That's why we're there, because we don't want those conversations being had in a vulgar way.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: But if not for you doing that, who would have done that?
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: So, jason, when you wrote this book and you start out right off the bat with young people, did you write it with them in mind?
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, is the book?
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, when you say young people, what age were you thinking about with that?
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: And I'll tell you why.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: I think it's injustice.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: What's going on in the world today, the way everything you just described, the way young people are being twisted and distorted I really think it's an injustice.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: It is an injustice and promulgated a lot of times by parents, by relatives, by all of us giving in to these parishes Catholic churches that aren't—it's not easy for me to get into to talk about theology of the body in the Catholic parishes and bring this in.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: It's amazing pushback.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: You get all over.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: I think that we almost have to go beneath.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: You know the culture and really put something together that appeals to the young people, to talk about exactly what you do, because they're starting to understand that they're missing something.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: Not all of them, but if we can wake up some of them to what you said, this eros.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: We've reduced love down to a feeling, down to romance, and then we further reduced it down to sex.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: They're not finding what they're looking for, jason, and so, getting back to your book again, look, and I know, there's a lot of meat in what you wrote here, but at the end of the day, did you have these young people in mind?
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: Is that why you started this way?
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: Yes, you know, I think when we think of the Great Reset, first of all, a lot of the books are pessimistic.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: It's sort of like this is what's coming for us.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: You know, chesterton's the Bout of the White Horse.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: You know, you get a lot of this.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: I tell you not for your comfort, nay, not for your desire.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: The clouds grow darker yet and the sea rises higher, and so I wanted to write a book that was honest, had an honest assessment of the challenges that we are all facing.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: I wanted to look at it through a theological and philosophical lens, and I wanted to write for young people specifically because I wanted them to be hopeful.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: And, as I say in the book, you know, when you read this book, I don't want you to look at it as the end of a pleasant life, right, but I want you to see it as the beginning of your great adventure, this adventure of Eros.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: That it is going to be a great adventure, but adventures are not necessarily the most pleasant things, as you know, when you read the Hobbit or the Lord of the Rings, I remember as a child I loved the Hobbit.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I read the Hobbit a hundred times.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: I would try to read Lord of the Rings and it was so eerie and scary and Tolkien called the Hobbit a there and back again story.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: It was about a journey, but the Lord of the Rings was a quest.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: He said you come back from a journey sort of refreshed and invigorated, but you never come back from this quest and if you do, you're diminished.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: In a way You're made thin.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Remember Frodo says I feel so thin.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: Abolish slavery in the United Kingdom took its toll on William Wilberforce.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: He was such a young man filled with passion and hope, and he achieved those hopes.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: But it came at a cost, and this great adventure, this adventure of Eros, is not going to be easy.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: You have young people who they use this expression body count to say how many people they've slept with, and it's like a competition as they get older and they seek to be married.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: They have already recognized there's all these on social media.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: They're always amongst themselves talking about their inability to quote unquote pair bond.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: So they're recognizing that they've been lied to.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: And so another great threat that we're going to see in Generation Z and Alpha is an attraction to virulent violent ideologies that may seem that will come from the right.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: So, as a conservative, this is something that should frighten us.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: We saw this in Europe in the 1930s as a reaction to the Bolsheviks and to the revolution, to the civil war in Spain.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: You saw a rise in young people being attracted.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: In the collapse of Germany and the decadence and perversion of the Wyoming Republic, we saw young people being attracted to national socialism.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: So we're already kind of starting to see this.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: Oh, we're starting to see it in a big way.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: And, unfortunately, everything that you say there when we're speaking to young men, look, this is going to go one of two ways.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Right, you were talking about the adventure.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: I think it was John Eldridge, and probably Wild of Heart had that famous line in there where he said you know, that's three core things about a man.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: It's going to be an adventure.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: We want this as an adventure.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: It's going to be a battle.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: We know as kids, right, as young boys.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, whoever went outside their house when they were young boys without a weapon, you know, without a plastic sword, or or?
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: You know, we knew it was going to be a battle.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: And then the last thing is beauty.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: It's for beauty, it's for Eros, it's for love.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: It's going to go.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: If we don't challenge them and crack this open for them, then then you're going to lose them to the, to the socialists.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: You're going to lose them to some adventure that's going to take them down the wrong path.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: And this is becoming very clear.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, the work that you're doing here is really important, because if we don't clarify this and at least give young people a chance to see, there's another side to this right.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: There's another side to this adventure.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: There's another side to this battle.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: It's the battle to uphold the beauty and love of a woman.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: And what young girl didn't dress like a princess when she was young, jason?
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, they all dress.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: I've got daughters and I've also got seven grandkids, six of them are girls.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: They all dress in these princesses.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: They all are looking for that knight in shining armor.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: So this is innate within us, but nobody's telling these stories.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: You know, nobody's telling the story.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's exactly right, and we as Catholics have to be very honest, like I'm an adult convert is, even when I was a young man in the army and then in college, when I was exploring religion, I found Catholicism repulsive.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: The reason I found it repulsive was because the Catholics that I would meet, or when I went to the Newman Center, they were trying to feed me like, like you know, soupy oatmeal they weren't giving me the bait.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: Young men and young women want to be.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: They wanted adventure.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: That's why you see the trends they're doing ice baths, ice plunges.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: This is why Exodus 90 is such a sensation.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: Like you look at it, you're like guys, can you take out the cold showers?
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: No, yeah.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah it works because people want to be pushed, they want to be challenged.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Well, young people, they're not going to have a choice.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: Like, sadly, I'm Gen X, like we're probably the luckiest generation in the history of the world.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: I'm Gen X, like we're probably the luckiest generation in the history of the world.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: Like we were born between eruptions of chaos on every side and we had a little glimpse of tranquility in the midst of it, a little glimpse of sanity between the baby boomers and what young people today are facing.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: But yeah, they're having a great challenge, and so they need to understand it's going to be a challenge.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Being in love, having a family, trusting each other, is going to be a great challenge, and so they need to understand it's going to be a challenge.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: Being in love, having a family, trusting each other, is going to be a great challenge.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: So then, when we think about the what is the great reset?
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: We think about Klaus Schwab you're going to be eating crickets and liking it.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: You're going to live in these smart cities where you're being surveilled, you're being monitored, you're being, you can be debanked if you tweet something they don't like, like this is what we fear and this is the reality and we should fear this.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: But what's even more important is the ability to love love God, love your parents, love your spouse, love your children.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: This is at the heart of what the Great Reset will obliterate.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: I think it's in Casablanca where Rick says would you rather be in love at war or loveless in a time of peace?
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: Something like that?
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: And we're going to have a generation of young people who will really not know and our generation can't even begin to understand it, to be honest, because the pornography for us, jack, our pornography was the Sears catalog right.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: Ask, jack, our pornography was the Sears catalog right.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: So we cannot even begin to wrap our mind around what it's like when you're, you know 14 and a boy and you're like looking at the Sears underwear section and to being like nine and having the most unbelievable pornography pouring through your phone before you're even hitting puberty and these young people are looking at it just out of curiosity.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: What is it that these mammals do that we're related to so closely, and they look at this and it just begins to unravel everything and it just breaks their heart's ability to love.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: And so this is the adventure.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: It's the adventure of Eros, but what a great adventure.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: All generations have had challenges Totalitarianism, war, pandemics, childhood diseases that just would wipe out generations of children in the past, the immigrant crisis in the United States.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: There was a time, I think uppers of 20 or 30 percent in the middle to late 19th century, of Irish girls were trapped in the sex industry, in prostitution in the United States.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Imagine what it was like for our great-grandparents or great-great-great-grandparents, who were immigrants coming from Ireland, from Italy, wherever they were coming from, in poverty, what they had to suffer, the challenges that they had to face.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: Every generation has challenges.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: These are very unique, they're very new, but they're surmountable and our faith tells us like we're priest, prophet, king, like we have all that we need, we have grace.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: So that's why I wrote this book, because I want young people to look at this challenge rightly and not to despair, not to become despondent, not to give up.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so talk about a couple of practical ways to strengthen families and communities through.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: You know let's.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Sometimes I'll lay out Catholic social teaching just to get a framework here, and you can, you can fill it in a little bit depending on how you want, but I think of it as a triangle, you know, like a, like a two-dimensional triangle, like a pyramid in front of you and on the bottom, holding this whole thing up is marriage and the family, of course, and Christ and the church, and then culture comes on top of that, and then polity, right, but nothing happens, Jason, in politics and nothing's going to happen in culture until the human heart has been transformed.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: And that's going to take place in the family and in Christ and the church and the power of that.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: When I talk to young guys that I work with that are addicted to porn and this is hardcore porn, as you described it changes their minds, it changes the rewiring in their brain.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: They can't even talk to a girl because they can't look her in the eye.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Jason, you know all these things and at the end Catholicism offers, through the sacraments and through prayer, that hope, right, that you know.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: I always tell young guys don't push this down, Don't suppress all of this and don't indulge, right?
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: They get in that cycle of trying to be good, trying to push it down and then indulging, you know.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: And it's this third way, right?
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: They get in that cycle of trying to be good, trying to push it down and then indulging, you know.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: And it's this third way, right?
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: This third way where I open up.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: I open up my heart.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: In fact, I can use my temptation now as an invitation to prayer.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: This is powerful stuff and you address a lot of these issues in your book, the Great Campaign Against the Great Reset and, by the way, I heard you've had a lot of pre-orders, so it's going well.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: But talk about some practical ways and it's not Amazon.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: We've had 50,000, some pre-orders already.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: Oh nice, well, congratulations.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: You should be excited, and this is the perfect thing that you're talking about to bring hope right now into a kind of a glum situation.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: For sure that we're facing there's no easy way to turn this around Apparently.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: you know it seems glum, but you know I would say that it's not glum.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: You know, when I kind of was trying to wrap my mind, I wrote this book and I look at like the ideologies that are part of the Great Reset victimism, Gnosticism, transhumanism, anti-humanism, the climate cult.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: All those things, so we could do a show on each one of those things.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: So I'm going to try not to interrupt you, but I want you to go through some of those main points that you want our listeners to remember as they go back into this book to glean more information.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, they're getting hammered by a lot of lies right A lot of and we haven't even talked about vaccines yet or X coming out right, some kind of disease X now they're talking about at the world economic forum.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: So I'm going to throw it in your lap and you talk about how, how you unpack this in the book.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: Jack.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: It sounds like an adventure to me.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, that's how we have to look at this.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: And when I was trying to wrap my mind around the struggle that this generation is going to have, I realized that they had to understand it as an adventure.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: And so let me start with one ideology which I would call the centerpiece of, and this is I love that this is a Catholic show, so I can speak in a way more directly than I would on most shows the Great Campaign versus the Great Reset.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: The Great Campaign comes from Evangelium Vitae, from St John Paul the Great.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: The Great Campaign is just another word for the mystical body of Christ, so, and Great Reset is the Antichrist, the body of the Antichrist.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: So this is really the battle the mystical body of Christ versus the mystical body of Antichrist.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: And something very big happened, obviously, when the second person of the Trinity became man.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: In Ecclesiastes 4.1, solomon says I looked all over the world and all I see is suffering and oppression, and on the side of the oppressor is power, and on the side of the oppressed is no one.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: Okay, so that was true when Solomon said that, but it's not true anymore.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: You can't read that and go oh, that's true, because I can look all over the world and see oppression.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: And on the side of the CCP with the Uyghur is Disney and Google and Meta and the New York Times, and on the side of the oppressed is the mystical body of Christ.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: So we have the mystical body of Christ.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: That's us.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: So that turns.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: Nothing is that dark.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Nothing can ever be.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: That dark again is when Solomon looked all over the world and said that Things have been changed forever.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: So I want to talk about two core principles one of Catholic social teaching and one of this mystical body of the Antichrist, the Great Reset.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: That's solidarity versus victimism.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: Victimism, to me, is the ideology of the Antichrist.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: It is feigning concern for the vulnerable, for wealth, power and prestige.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: It empties the gospel of all meaning.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: I'm going to say be the defender of affluent German homosexual men, I'll become the greatest defender.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: Okay, really, really, how much courage does that take?
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: None, so they put themselves up as great defenders.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: By the way, there is a way to defend men with same-sex attraction right, courageously.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: That comes with a cost, which is to order our language thoughtfully to lead them to salvation and truth about sexuality.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: To do that would come at a great cost.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: There's a way that we can speak about human rights or human dignity which actually abandons those words of any meaning.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: That's victimism.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: And victimism is you can think of black lives, matter and antifa, these types of enthusiasms and these movements.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: The climate cult is the worst one.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: You know green cars.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: I'm going to say something very controversial but brutally honest.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: There's no such thing as a green car.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: What we call green energy is black and brown energy.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: It it's black coal and African children who are digging for.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: You know the rear earth elements, minerals that go into the batteries of your electric vehicle.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: This is victimism.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: Your feigning concern, king Charles in his Christmas address, was the ultimate victimist speech.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: He said we shouldn't allow famine and war and civil unrest to distract us from compassion for the climate.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: That is victimism.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: So what is authentic solidarity?
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: Authentic solidarity?
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: It takes risks, takes consequences, as the great Catholic anthropologist from Stanford, rene Girard, wrote.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: Catholic anthropologist from Stanford, rene Girard wrote to be in solidarity with the vulnerable is to become vulnerable, is to become indistinguishable from those who you love.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: To kiss a leper is to be treated like a leper.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: Yes, to stand next to a woman being stoned in adultery is likely to get you a rock in the head or nailed to a cross, and that's what we are called to do as Christians.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: To serve your local homeless comes with consequences.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: To play checkers at the old folks' home with gentlemen with dementia All these things come with challenges.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: The work that my organization does when people go I don't know why you're doing that, isn't it dangerous?
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know how I can serve people in danger without being in danger.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: I don't know how you do that.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: I don't know how a fireman puts out a fire without risking dying in a fire.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: I don't know how police officers don't protect us from violence without being risked being victims of violence.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: I don't know how a Christian stands with the most vulnerable members of their community without saving some risk.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: For example, like you, standing with the children at your local library got you kicked out of the library.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: That is authentic solidarity.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: Now, you could have dressed up as a woman and you could have went red to those kids and they would have called you a hero in the local paper that probably named the wing of the library after you.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: Right, that's victimism versus true solidarity.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: That is the heart of this great campaign against the Great Reset.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: Yes, so you know John Paul II.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: I could see him today, jason, challenging young people that were hopeless, that were looking for something.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: John Paul would say I'm an old man, you didn't come to see an old man, you came to see Jesus Christ.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: But he would say this to them right, young people, you know that your life has meaning to the extent that it's given away as a gift to others.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: They understood that.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: Jason, the two great commandments, it's not brain surgery.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: Open yourself up, receive love, receive that divine love and then pour that out in self-giving love.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: This is what marriage means.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: This is what authentic Catholic teaching is really all about, which you just unpacked, and, at the end of the day, try it, because your life will find meaning and it will find purpose.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Who am I?
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: I'm a daughter or a son of God.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: And what's my meaning and purpose?
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: To receive this divine life and love and give it away, and you'll never run out because you're always going to the fountain.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: You're always going to the fountain.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: You're always going to the spring that's overflowing in your heart.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: This is where eros comes from, and Benedict would say eros, you know, you look up on a cross, that's Jesus, is eros giving himself away, but he's 100% agape love, right?
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: So Eros and divine love in one person.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: He pours that out to us.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: So I can drink this in and be that person of love.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: And, at the end of the day, young people if we can find a way to tell them that story, jason, and unpack it through you're a storyteller.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: Unpack that for people so they can understand it and see it.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: They know something's amiss not all of them, jason, but I and I don't know how that works.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: Right, with young people walking around protesting, you know, against Israel right now.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: But on the other hand, you see a number of young people at at Focus 15,000 of them not not so far from from us at a Focus ministry and 15,000 of them not so far from us at a focus ministry and 15,000 of them praying together.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: You know right.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: So all we can do is keep telling the story and look, not everybody's going to wake up.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: We know that.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: But I think young people deserve right.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: They deserve to hear the story.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: So they have a decision to make, right.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: If nobody tells them the story, I don't have a decision to make.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: I have a bunch of bad choices and you have to do what you just said you can't water this down.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: You have to tell them it's going to be an adventure, it's going to be a battle, but, at the end of the day, listen to your heart.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: Right, it's about beauty, it's about love.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: And listen to your heart.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Right, it's about beauty, it's about love and, like I said, I'm excited about what you're writing and the work that you're doing.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to address that.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: You mentioned the young people that go into these protests.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: I think Chester said not to butcher the quote, but I think Chester said to the effect of every man who walks into a brothel is looking for love.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: And I would think that every young person not the demagogues who are gaslighting the young people for power, but the young people that participate, whether it's Antifa or BLM or any of these causes they're wanting to express love for their community.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: You know, even with the mask, I called the mask like it was the secular scapular For many people it became a symbol of thoughtfulness to the community.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: Now I recognize right away that I had to fight these mandates and these masks because they were not good for our health and they were undermining the health and they were undermining the community.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: But the challenges, the very people you're battling, are battling you because they so much want to stand in solidarity with their community and say to their neighbors look, I love you.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: And then they make us the villain.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: Like we love you, we'll protect you from these villains.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: And meanwhile we're in the position where we're like we love you too, and you're not a villain.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: But boy are you mistaken, like we love you too, and you're not a villain, but boy are you mistaken.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: And this is where the church, really this is where we need to step up, because if we don't give people real food, they're going to take junk food and social justice.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: Junk food is destroying this country and it's destroying young people.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: And the key is really with the laity right now.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: Jason.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, you look around, bishop Sheen was big on this.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: John Paul understood this well too.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: He always was challenging the laity.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: Bishop Sheen always said you know, you have to make sure that your bishops act like bishops, your priests act like priests, your religious act like religious.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: We have to do this now.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: We have to stand up.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: You know, there was a time when I was a young boy going to the Latin mass I'm a little older than you and you kind of left everything to the priest.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: But today we can't do that anymore, jason.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: So this is a good time for you and I and everybody listening here, because the solution is.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: Well, you were talking about GK Chesterton and CS Lewis.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: Gk would say I am.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: What's the solution?
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: Right, remember?
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: Right, you know he was writing, they wrote in, you know.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: What's Wrong with Christianity?
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: What's Wrong with the World?
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: He wrote.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: I am.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: I am, and that's what we have to say.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: We have to say I am.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: So, as we wind down here, what else did you want to bring out with the book?
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: Because you hit on so many things that the right to private property, you could see them right.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: You will own nothing and all of these things, and you'll be happy I'll own nothing and be happy.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: No, as they said, you will own nothing, we will own nothing.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: You will eat cricket meat Now.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: We will eat cricket me now.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: We will eat cricket me.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: You will eat cricket me.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: You know it's unbelievable.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: Let me tell you so.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: Maybe I'll give you just.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: We'll end on this it's it's?
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: It's because it's not a lot of people's radar right now, but boy, should it be.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: It's transhumanism, transhumanism I just finished by cs lewis yesterday and I was so taken by it is his book out of the silent planet, part of space trilogy, and I'm about done.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: I'll finish it this evening his perilandra, which is strikingly, breathtakingly beautiful, but he talks about transhumanism there.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: He started in the mid-30s, I think, is when he started writing it, finished it in the midst of World War II.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: But the series, but transhumanism, it's in Paralandra where an angel is disputing with this professor, who's effectively a transhumanist, saying what is it that you're fighting for?
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: And he says, by your definition of what a human is, it will no longer be a human at all.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: And I thought, wow, this is really touching what transhumanism is.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: You can listen to these advocates you know of of transhumanist technology and, like Yuval Harari, these who you know, who wrote this sort of what has become the Bible of the transhumanists.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: They really you know who wrote, uh, this sort of what has become the bible of the transhumanists.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: They really see an end to the homo sapien and they believe that that what we call transhuman won't even be human and the radical interaction of technology with biology and what it means to be a human person and the obliteration of free will, the massive, the lifespan of the wealthy will be stretched beyond what's unimaginable today, and also the quality of life will be stretched.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: So the wealthy will no longer, or powerful will no longer, look to their posterity or the common good, but everything will be about what can I do to live a little longer, what can I do to stretch my quality of life a little bit further?
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: And then, sort of, like I said to my wife, what's really amazing is, of course these technologies are going to be very tempting.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: Amazing is, of course these technologies are going to be very tempting.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: But what's sort of a grace and sort of miraculous is all of these technologies are, at the heart of them, involve the destruction of innocent human life.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: You look at embryonic stem cell research or China's forced organ harvesting of the Uyghur population.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: So it sort of protects us from this temptation, those of us who are grounded in a respect for human dignity.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: I remember Archbishop Vigano, or no, it was Athanasius Schneider.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: He called the vaccine sort of a baptism into the mystical body of Antichrist.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: So there are these real concerns with transhumanism and the greatest concern is the obliteration of thoughtfulness to the common good and the obliteration of the thoughtfulness to our posterity.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: Bill Gates, who is one of the biggest advocates of transhumanism and also the biggest advocate of population control, has said that they're interconnected, that we won't need to procreate as a species to continue.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: We will just continue, so we don't need to procreate.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: Also, people like Bill Gates see our posterity as competitors for resources, not with their posterity, but with them, because they believe they're going to have these massive lifespans.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: So I know to a lot of folks this is probably like wow, jason, you jumped the shark with me there.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: Well, no, you're not.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: I mean your division.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: If all you got to listen is Harari, you just can YouTube them, right?
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: I mean you can listen to exactly what you're saying there, jason.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: Well, I keep getting back to the accelerating pride that these people are and the illusion that these people are under.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: You wonder how that could be.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, bill Gates is probably somewhere around my age, maybe, maybe a couple of years older, maybe even a couple of years younger.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: He's going to be out of here and if he doesn't get hit by a bus or something, right, and and and, 15, 20 years, 30 years, it is stretch it and and you know what?
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: The end of the day is coming and they're not going to stretch out their lives.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: Nobody has ever done it.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: My dad is 97 years old.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: He's an old world war two vet.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: He's still alive today.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: He hasn't done anything but exercise and eat right and drink good wine and maybe some good bourbon right At the end of the day, you know he's not.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: If he gets another couple of years out of an organ transplant from some Uyghur or some baby and I live three or four more years, I mean how despicable is this?
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: Right, I'm going to destroy life.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: So I get a couple more years left, but this is the illusion that they're under.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: They're going to put a chip in their brain and so, jason, it's Genesis 3 all over again.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: You know right, you will be like God's.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: But the last thing I'll just say is and it's your opinion on this the weeds in the weed are sticking up to me.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: They're in the church, they're in the government, they're our neighbors, even, even.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: This is a battle of the individual heart, you know they're us, they're us.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: Look, it's me.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: Then.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: My next book, after this book coming out next year, is my spiritual autobiography, coming out from Sophia press, and the title is on Rocky soil.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: Spiritual body is on rocky soil, a spiritual autobiography of a man you may not meet in heaven, and it's about working out my salvation in fear and trembling and.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: I tell you what I fear and I tremble and I can feel all of these things tugging on me.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: I was an adult convert so I know more than most of my generation probably about this the adventure of Eros, that young people have to battle, and I'm kind of grateful for the empathy that that has given me.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, I think all of us have to understand that the battle is running through all of our hearts and I always tell my wife, if the world wasn't in such a dark place, I'd probably have moved above a bar in Costa Rica already.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would have got a library card and Leo Strauss, the political philosopher, wrote that good statesman loves his city more than his own soul, which would be quite sorrowful.
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: But I would say, as a Catholic, sometimes I think it's, yeah, it's this idea that more than my soul is at risk because I could be a scandal or I can be light in the darkness.
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: So I, we all, have to be aware that the we're all, there's a raging battle that is is in all of our hearts and it's the most important battle the most important battle when?
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: and the great campaign against the great reset.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: I say people say, when did the great reset began?
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, well, when eve took that apple.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: You know, that's when it began, yeah, and so in many, many, many ways it is nothing new, but in many, many ways it's startlinglyly new, with all sorts of challenges and temptations.
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: The biggest part isn't the cricket meet.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: To me, the worst part of this coming challenge is to young people and maybe us isn't the cricket meet and the taking our private property, but it's these sort of like Luciferian temptations to longevity or quality of life that are going to be presented to all of us, and it's only through God's grace that we won't be swept away, and hence why the sacraments are so important.
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, god bless you, jason.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: This has been just wonderful to have you.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: Look, I'm going to have some links in the show notes for the book.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: What other context do you want me to put in, anything else?
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: And what is your website?
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: My website is the vulnerablepeopleprojectcom or the same place, thegreatcampaignorg.
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: Thegreatcampaignorg and I have a podcast myself, the Jason Jones Show.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: You can go subscribe there and get the book.
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: I promise everyone who's read the book has been so moved and the pre-orders have been startling.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: I've already pre-sold more copies of this book than I've sold of my last book that came out 10 years ago.
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm excited for you and you know it's well-deserved, and you're hitting it right where we need to hear it Again.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: You say you don't have courage, but I know you're humble enough to say that, but the courage may not have been something you planned, but it's coming out of you and thank you so much.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: You're not going to be able to retire, unfortunately, because we need your voice out there.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: So God bless you, jason.
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much and we look forward to getting the book.
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: All right, thanks, jack.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: Thank you, bye-bye.