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8-25-26 Hour 1 - Jed York's Fantastic Sunday Morning/NBA's double-edged CBA sword/Broncos can avoid a slide · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 1: This is Mosher, Lombardy and Caine on demand. Listen live
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  Speaker 1: every weekday morning from seven to ten on Altitude Sports
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  Speaker 1: Radio ninety two five and on the Altitude Sports Radio app.
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  Speaker 2: I know there's probably more pressing matters to get to,
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  Speaker 2: and I said in the appetizer that was gonna leave
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  Speaker 2: this alone.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not talking about trailer park hookers. I'm sorry, I'm
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  Speaker 3: not just not gonna.
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  Speaker 4: Do Why would somebody with hundreds of millions of dollars
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  Speaker 4: go to a mobile home in East Palestine, Ohio? Can
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  Speaker 4: somebody explain that to me?
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  Speaker 2: Because if you can, if you can do it in
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  Speaker 2: thirty seconds most then we can move on, never discuss
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  Speaker 2: it again.
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  Speaker 5: But all I'm thinking is a man of that money.
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  Speaker 5: I look, I don't.
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  Speaker 6: Have that money, but I've seen movies.
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  Speaker 3: I figured if you just pulled up to the.
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  Speaker 5: Curb of a club in a Ferrari, it takes care
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  Speaker 5: of itself.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Man, Hugh Grant was one of the biggest movie
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  Speaker 3: stars in the planet. You recall what happened about over
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  Speaker 3: thirty years ago. Hugh Grant, right, you know Hugh Grant, Yes,
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  Speaker 3: gigantic movie star englishman stoic all this decided he wanted
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  Speaker 3: to go to Sunset Boulevard and give himself a little action.
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  Speaker 6: Wasn't he married to.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think he was married, but he was dating
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  Speaker 3: Elizabeth Hurley for a long time. Elizabeth Hurley. He says,
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  Speaker 3: you know what, and he goes, you know what, I'm
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  Speaker 3: a little I'm a little bull.
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  Speaker 6: Tonight people are describing him emotionally like what he was
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  Speaker 6: feeling at that time, a word that rhymes with corny,
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  Speaker 6: and I understand That's what I'm saying, is what level of.
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  Speaker 3: That do you have to be.
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  Speaker 5: To go to a trailer park?
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  Speaker 2: And he's Palestine, Ohio as a man who's worth hundreds
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  Speaker 2: of millions of doubts what.
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  Speaker 3: One hundred fifty to East Palestine go to a trailer park. Look,
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  Speaker 3: but the first thing is, I don't want you to
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  Speaker 3: assume that Vic or I could even remotely know what's
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  Speaker 3: going on in dude's head. All right, So to get so, well.
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  Speaker 5: You guys got more money than me.
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  Speaker 3: So what what he.
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  Speaker 6: Set us up? He's asking the old guys to explain
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  Speaker 6: why this would happen, trying to paint us into a corner.
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  Speaker 6: What means what he's.
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  Speaker 2: Doing me and Nelly don't have money. You guys, you
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  Speaker 2: guys have the money. How many trailer parks?
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  Speaker 6: Is this?
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  Speaker 3: Is this a kind I think? I see you see. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you're looking for answers in the place you're not gonna
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  Speaker 3: find him.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not even sorry. I'm not even gonna say what's
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  Speaker 6: on my mind. I want to say it's so bad.
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  Speaker 6: Wait do you not want to say it because it's
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  Speaker 6: crude or what? It's just I'm not saying it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, come on, don't leave me hanging like that. I
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  Speaker 2: got a Melly's in here, but I got a dumb
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  Speaker 2: button over here. It's fine, VIC, I got you.
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  Speaker 3: You're in a safe places.
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  Speaker 6: Go wrong with dayton a girl from the trailer park.
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  Speaker 2: It's nothing. There's nothing wrong with that. So you're getting
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  Speaker 2: caught up in the wrong detail. It wasn't a date,
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  Speaker 2: that's one thing, wasn't it. It was a scheduled time.
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  Speaker 5: But VIC, if I told.
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  Speaker 6: You, yeah, that's just a nice date.
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  Speaker 2: Hang on hand, VIC, Hang on a second, Hang on
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  Speaker 2: a second, candle lit Just wait a minute, wait a minute.
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  Speaker 2: If I let's just say I had like a family member,
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  Speaker 2: a cousin who lived in a trailer park somewhere right
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  Speaker 2: and I went to see my cousin, And I told
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  Speaker 2: you you want's to see my cousin.
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  Speaker 3: We're just hanging out.
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  Speaker 2: He lives in these trailer parks out you know, a
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  Speaker 2: few miles from my house. Bezos was there, wouldn't you
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  Speaker 2: be like, wait, like Jeff Bezos was in the mobile
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  Speaker 2: home center that you were.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, you just showed up, had a nice little chat
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  Speaker 6: about Amazon. It's funny you bring up Jeff Bezos. You
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  Speaker 6: know the girl that Jeff Bezos is married to. I
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  Speaker 6: used to work with her in Arizona. Yeah, she was
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  Speaker 6: a co anchor in Arizona. She was on the news
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  Speaker 6: in Arizona. Did she live in a trailer Is this
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  Speaker 6: just a missing part of the rich life that.
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  Speaker 3: I can't understand?
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  Speaker 6: I verify that.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, gotcha while you're down there, okay, okay, Oh Timmy,
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  Speaker 3: I'm glad you waited until Jason left by the way
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  Speaker 3: to play that clipped because Jason was down here. I
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  Speaker 3: guess know what happened today.
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  Speaker 2: No, we'll get the sports in a second, I promise,
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  Speaker 2: and Jedi Ork you know what, shove it? Jedu Ork
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  Speaker 2: is sports I walk in today and now he goes
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry your keyboard's not working.
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  Speaker 3: And he picked it up and coffee came down like
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  Speaker 3: the nile.
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  Speaker 6: Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 2: So I said, I don't like tattletales, but I wanted
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  Speaker 2: the text line to be a tattletale.
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  Speaker 3: And it seems, well, guess that's what.
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  Speaker 6: Said twas.
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  Speaker 7: I can either confirm nor deny that coffee. But Twitch
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  Speaker 7: said that d MAC did coffee the keyboard.
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  Speaker 3: Hold on a second, here's what we If that's the case, though,
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  Speaker 3: then that means that the keyboard was ruined for Andy
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  Speaker 3: and for Yeah, no.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe it's still it didn't seep all the way in.
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  Speaker 7: Maybe I'm saying like so I so it said that
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  Speaker 7: the keyboard was out of battery, right, So I flipped
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  Speaker 7: it over to get to the battery compartment on the back.
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  Speaker 7: I replaced the battery, and then when I flipped it
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  Speaker 7: back over, coffee. There was coffee everywhere all over the desk.
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  Speaker 7: It had it had seeped out of the keys while
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  Speaker 7: I was replacing the battery.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not I'm no private investigator, I'm no p I.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, you can't put me on the jet your case.
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  Speaker 6: But when it comes to our situation, Coffee on the keyboard.
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  Speaker 6: That's just the latest crumbs all over the studio. Who
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  Speaker 6: did who does that? Who? Who does that? PhD? Just
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  Speaker 6: a messy stuff all over PhD. Is there money from
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  Speaker 6: the children's charity jar? EHD? At what point is that
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  Speaker 6: show the George panalyze is the George discipline for what
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  Speaker 6: they do to our studio?
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  Speaker 3: Can I say something real quick? The more that we
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  Speaker 3: talk about that jar that was it.
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  Speaker 2: Was a bad radio jar is what it was, and
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  Speaker 2: then we're gonna use it for I don't know what
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  Speaker 2: it was, get beers one day pizza. The more Vic
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  Speaker 2: talks about that, the more time passes, he acts as
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  Speaker 2: if this was going to children's hospital to a specific person,
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  Speaker 2: like saved their life.
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  Speaker 6: It was just it's just not the point the principle
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  Speaker 6: of the matter. If there's a jar in your workplace
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  Speaker 6: that says charity on it, something fundraiser, who on earth
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  Speaker 6: would reach their grimy hands in there to even borrow money?
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  Speaker 6: I would do anything not to do that. And the
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  Speaker 6: fact that all that money that was in the jar
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  Speaker 6: that we put in there, if Mosure did, I cannot
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  Speaker 6: believe those funds were taken in less than a month.
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  Speaker 2: To answer your question, who would do that? Mosure would
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  Speaker 2: you would take a buck to go get yourself some
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  Speaker 2: peanut butter cracks? But it was my buck put script,
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  Speaker 2: that's true, it wasn't yours to start with.
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  Speaker 6: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, Broncos practice yesterday. Marvin Mims return to practice. Luke
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  Speaker 2: Wattenberg returned to practice. Those are both good. Riley Moss
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  Speaker 2: was there but did not practice, but he was there
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  Speaker 2: as he's still nursing the rib thing that he's got
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  Speaker 2: going on. I will say this, I think it's important
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  Speaker 2: that Mims practice is and plays in these preseason games.
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  Speaker 2: And I still I think for him there has to
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  Speaker 2: be some sort of showcase, whether it's with the Broncos
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  Speaker 2: or not. And I think that at this juncture he's
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  Speaker 2: probably going to be here. I think they value him
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  Speaker 2: too much as a returner. And the more we talk
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  Speaker 2: about it, it's like, let's say you flip him for
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  Speaker 2: a fourth or fifth or something like that. Is that
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  Speaker 2: worth more than the short term Super Bowl run sort
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  Speaker 2: of thing of having depth a wide receiver along with
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  Speaker 2: having an elite returner.
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  Speaker 6: Now, what you continue to assume here we are, we're
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  Speaker 6: almost at week one, and your assumption is that they're
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  Speaker 6: looking to flip Marvin Man.
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  Speaker 2: No, I just told you I don't think that's the
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  Speaker 2: case anymore. But I think for him it's important for
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  Speaker 2: him to practice and play because I don't know how
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  Speaker 2: many snaps he's going to get.
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  Speaker 5: And then after this year is where that becomes important.
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  Speaker 3: Like he's got it.
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  Speaker 6: In whatever limited amount of time that he has on
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  Speaker 6: the field, he's gonna have to make the most of it,
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  Speaker 6: and maybe that changes.
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  Speaker 5: You know, he was working with the starting unit a
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  Speaker 5: lot early in camp.
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  Speaker 2: He was listed as a starter on their unofficial depth
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  Speaker 2: chart thing before his injury. But Texas says, damn it, Brett,
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  Speaker 2: Now he's gonna get traded in the next thirty seconds.
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  Speaker 3: That would be funny. I thought that as soon as
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  Speaker 3: you back, did we get officially the time between congratulations
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  Speaker 3: should do? It's your job to break news. Deshaun Watson's
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  Speaker 3: been named Nelly, do we have the exactly? Yeah?
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  Speaker 7: It was so there was about seven minutes of discussion.
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  Speaker 6: Brett.
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  Speaker 7: Brett said that right, there's no way that you can
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  Speaker 7: go back to Deshaun Watson. There was about seven minutes
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  Speaker 7: of discussion. Then he pivoted to saying, our qualifier for
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  Speaker 7: eighteen seconds, and then immediately Vic said, okay, it's Shawn
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  Speaker 7: Watson's shop.
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  Speaker 3: So the world record now was well, we'll pack a
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  Speaker 3: couple on if you want.
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  Speaker 7: It was eighteen seconds that they pivoted away from the
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  Speaker 7: discussion before the decision came down. That's insane, okay, So
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  Speaker 7: eighteen Vic, we'll call it twenty seconds. We'll round it up, okay,
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  Speaker 7: just to give you a couple seconds, leeway Gainer.
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  Speaker 6: The only way that this could is if something happens
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  Speaker 6: in the middle of somebody making a pretty absolutely the
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  Speaker 6: only way they.
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  Speaker 2: Get beat, and it is my fault. I will take
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  Speaker 2: full responsibility. Okay, hand up.
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  Speaker 6: My bad.
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  Speaker 2: I was thinking like a sane in reasonable human being
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  Speaker 2: and I forgot we were discussing the Browns.
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  Speaker 3: So that's on me.
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  Speaker 2: I should have been smart enough to realize you need
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  Speaker 2: to be stupid if you want.
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  Speaker 5: To think like Cleveland does.
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  Speaker 3: My bad, But.
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  Speaker 2: You're starting to get guys back into practice healthy as
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  Speaker 2: the season gets closer and closer. And what's even more important,
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  Speaker 2: I think than any MIM's discussion, is you got a center.
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  Speaker 6: Luke Wattenberg practiced good.
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  Speaker 2: Thank God, because the last thing you wanted is any
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  Speaker 2: lingering injuries to your offensive line going into the season,
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  Speaker 2: So getting him back at practice is huge for a
• 10:35
  Speaker 2: number of different reasons. First of all, to protect vo Nicks,
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  Speaker 2: But secondly, I don't think that centers get the amount
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  Speaker 2: of credit that they should probably be due. I don't
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  Speaker 2: think people understand the responsibilities that a center has. Each
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  Speaker 2: time that they walk up to the line of scrimmage.
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  Speaker 2: They're the guys calling out the checks.
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  Speaker 6: They're the guys pointing out different protections and who might
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  Speaker 6: be blitzing and blah blah blah, like it's an important spot,
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  Speaker 6: and it's like, well, left tackle is important.
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  Speaker 5: It goes yeah, of course.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: It's no secret when the Denver Broncos were winning Super Bowls.
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  Speaker 6: When they were that team, their center Tom Nalen is
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  Speaker 6: putting very well. He one of the smartest dudes around.
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  Speaker 6: He knew exactly what was going on and how to
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  Speaker 6: call a scheme. I mean, you're right, You're so right.
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  Speaker 6: I think that position is so undervalued at times.
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  Speaker 2: And I think it's just because a lot of times,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you aren't facing nose tackles anymore. For the
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  Speaker 2: most part, mos there's not a lot of one on
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  Speaker 2: ones that centers are getting it.
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  Speaker 3: It's a lot of you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: So it's even when things go wrong, it's like the
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  Speaker 2: highlight isn't necessarily on the center.
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  Speaker 3: Let's talk about pass pro. That center typically will hike
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  Speaker 3: the football and then it's one of these. It's the pivot,
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  Speaker 3: it's the recognition. Help where's it coming from? Ware? Is
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  Speaker 3: somebody going to stunt and comes to stunt? Yeah, coming
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  Speaker 3: up the middle. So there's a there's a lot that
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  Speaker 3: goes into that particular job. Guards and tackles they kind
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  Speaker 3: of know what they're going to be facing. They kind
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  Speaker 3: of know. Okay, especially tackles. Man like, okay, I got
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  Speaker 3: the best pass rusher on their team on my side,
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  Speaker 3: it's gonna be one on one and him. If they
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  Speaker 3: can I push him wide? Will he try to take
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  Speaker 3: me in? Is there a swim coming?
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  Speaker 6: You know that kind?
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  Speaker 2: If tackles get beat, it's full on right there in
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  Speaker 2: front of your eyes, like, oh, this guy just got worked,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 5: It's easy to identify.
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  Speaker 6: I suppose back to the Jed York stuff or gone. Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: the mayor of East Palace is East Palestine.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's Palestine.
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  Speaker 2: Because that was the train derailment place, right, they said
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  Speaker 2: it differently than the country.
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  Speaker 6: Well that's the mayor Trent Conaway large Man says, we
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  Speaker 6: haven't had this much excitement around here since the train derails.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: By the way, both of those not great. Here's two
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  Speaker 6: things I know about.
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  Speaker 3: The mayor of Maybury says, we ain't had this much
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  Speaker 3: excitement around here since we got McDonald's. Two things I
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  Speaker 3: know about East.
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  Speaker 2: Palace horrible train derailment that was like environmentally terrible, and
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  Speaker 2: a rich guy came there to hook up in a
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  Speaker 2: trailer home.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome to East Palestine again.
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  Speaker 6: Your continual demeaning of the trailer home lifestyle is something
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  Speaker 6: that I just can't get on board with.
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  Speaker 2: All right, this is why Vic, this is why I
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  Speaker 2: can't get past it. Okay, I think we can all agree.
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  Speaker 2: And this isn't to disparage anybody lives in a mobile home.
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  Speaker 2: I know people have lived in mobile homes.
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  Speaker 3: Nice people.
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  Speaker 6: What if I told you I once dated a girl
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  Speaker 6: from a trailer park, That's fine, and she was brilliant.
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  Speaker 3: That's fine.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm sure. Here's the problem.
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  Speaker 3: Because I don't.
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  Speaker 6: Swim in these circles that Jed York swims in. I
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  Speaker 6: can only base their lifestyle off of movies.
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  Speaker 3: And television shows watched.
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  Speaker 2: I know that that line of work exists in a
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  Speaker 2: bunch of different places. If you go to Vegas, isn't
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  Speaker 2: there a whole culture around There's women that will come
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  Speaker 2: to your room and do the same thing, right, But.
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  Speaker 5: You don't go to a trailer. That's all I'm saying,
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  Speaker 5: is not where you go.
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  Speaker 6: What if it's a love story like Julia Roberts and
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  Speaker 6: Richard gear in Pretty Woman, It's essentially a Disney movie
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  Speaker 6: except for the content of the story. I'll tell you what.
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  Speaker 3: What if it was the Peace from Beauty and the
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  Speaker 3: Piece Bretton. Give me an hour of my own time,
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  Speaker 3: and I'll turn this jed your thing into a Disney
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  Speaker 3: story with just a different twist on it. I can
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  Speaker 3: make it. I can make a Disney story out of this.
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  Speaker 6: I can feel it down in my plums.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not talking about fake hookers. I'm not knowing it.
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  Speaker 6: You guys are You guys are demeaning what could be
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  Speaker 6: possibly one of the great love stories of our time.
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  Speaker 3: Dude, if she was Cinderella, it was you found the
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  Speaker 3: Golden this Lepper and there wasn't even a real chick.
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  Speaker 3: It was a task for It was fake. The task
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  Speaker 3: force had baited. They bait people with these ads. They
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  Speaker 3: baited him. Wasn't there wasn't even a In fact, the
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  Speaker 3: trailer park guy goes, hey, man, this is this is
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  Speaker 3: a nice mobile home park, right, don't associate us with this.
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  Speaker 2: So it was I'm gonna I'm gonna say the same
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  Speaker 2: thing I said Tonelli in the appetizing.
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  Speaker 3: The address he was going to doesn't exist. That the
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  Speaker 3: Mahoning Valley Human Traffic Trafficking task Force set up a
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  Speaker 3: fake address inside this inside wheaed Hill mobile home community.
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  Speaker 6: I'm going to say the same thing that I said
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  Speaker 6: tonelliing the Appetizer before I moved on permanently.
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  Speaker 3: Apparently it didn't because you brought it up again.
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  Speaker 2: I gotta see a picture of this broad.
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  Speaker 6: According to most there is no picture.
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  Speaker 3: Well there's no.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think he went their sight unseen.
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  Speaker 6: There had to be. We had a situation like that
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  Speaker 6: occur here in Denver, Colorado about twenty years ago.
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  Speaker 3: Oh god, Denny.
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  Speaker 6: And the picture was unveiled and let's just see, all right,
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  Speaker 6: let's just say it's a love story.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe just say yes, when we return more keywords today,
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: get yourself entered in this Rock Paper Scissors contest and
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  Speaker 2: a chance for you to go to Kansas City for week.
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  Speaker 5: One Bronco's at KC in Arrowhead.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, hand you can find it old please are you
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  Speaker 2: looking for the photo?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? On, here you go.
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  Speaker 5: Oh okay, here you go.
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  Speaker 6: That's a set up.
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  Speaker 3: Wife, Well, I'm not well that one. The other interesting
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• 17:16
  Speaker 3: doesn't matter. We're not talking about fake trailer park hookers anymore.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I'm taking command of the situation.
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  Speaker 6: I ain't to the world here, she says.
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  Speaker 2: She looked like the Lucille falls.
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  Speaker 3: All right, another that back after this.
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  Speaker 6: Adam Schefter at nine twenty correct.
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  Speaker 3: Roa Schambeau.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, Adam Schefter at nine twenty this morning. Great topic
• 18:00
  Speaker 6: that he he just put out on social media. They
• 18:03
  Speaker 6: were going to ask him about what's u you know,
• 18:05
  Speaker 6: the whole CTE issue in triple There's a study that's
• 18:10
  Speaker 6: out right now, a study that revealed between twenty sixteen
• 18:13
  Speaker 6: and twenty twenty one. There was some research done and
• 18:18
  Speaker 6: at least one of four players who passed away during
• 18:22
  Speaker 6: that time. During that five year run, one in four
• 18:26
  Speaker 6: died with known CTE in their brains, so twenty five
• 18:31
  Speaker 6: percent minimum according to this research study done. So this
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: is something that the NFL has taken great measures right
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: with the helmet improvement and safety and all that stuff.
• 18:40
  Speaker 6: But it's still a topic something we'll discuss with him.
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: Can I ask a very dumb question.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: At this point, this is not a dumb question, maybe
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: a dumb statement at this point. We're highly aware of
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: this now right. This isn't a surprise to anybody. You
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: know that this is what comes with the territory of
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: playing football.
• 19:03
  Speaker 6: But but you're limited. Let me just statch ahead. One
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: thing that bothers me a little bit about this is
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: it's always just football. And that's where I disagree. It's
• 19:14
  Speaker 6: any sport or activity that results in head contact.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: No, no, this is this is what I was getting
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: at VIC to like, just to back you up, football
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: is very and look, you should be concerned if people
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: are like being permanently damaged by your sport. That is
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: a bad thing. But it's also just the nature of
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: what the sport is. You know what I've never heard
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: before somebody asking Daniel White about CTE. You're telling me
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: when somebody gets cold cocked in the face, not out cold,
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: multiple times in their fighting careers, not to mention all
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: the other punches that they take, there's not some stuff
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: going on there and.
• 19:52
  Speaker 6: They don't respond to it. They don't.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: It's just they're not going to make it as topic.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: It's the same, it's the same thing. It's just less
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: care and I just don't understand the difference. Or Brett again,
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: this is another one soccer. You might snicker when I
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: say that, but what does a soccer player do every game?
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: Hits the ball with his head?
• 20:10
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: Or her d? I mean they do headeros.
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: Yes. In my opinion, and I am I am not
• 20:17
  Speaker 6: a I'm a doctor of sport, not a medical doctor.
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: My opinion is that soccer is every bit is dangerous,
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: if not more. But if you took if you took
• 20:26
  Speaker 6: a ten year UFC veteran who passed away and looked
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: at their brain, I'm assuming you're probably gonna find some
• 20:32
  Speaker 6: stuff in there, wouldn't you?
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: Is that? Is that a safe assumption to make.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: Probably I'm not a doctor. I don't know, but it
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: would feel that way to me.
• 20:40
  Speaker 6: Hockey players, sure, I'm sure hockey there's it comes into play.
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: You name the sport where violence and physicality is involved,
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: and it's got to be a factor.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: I just I suppose it's one thing.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: If they were in the the accusation years ago was
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: that they were hiding this research, right, that was kind
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: of a part of it. But now that it's out
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: in the open, is this isn't like I don't know
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: a problem?
• 21:07
  Speaker 6: Is it?
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: Every guy knows what they're signing up. That's exactly right.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: And I have a conversation that I have, well that
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: I've had I'm sorry with Big fifty about this at
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: one point, and that was, guys know what's up, and
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: they know that they're probably going to die young, and
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: you know what, they sign up for it anyway, because
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: if you got if you get an opportunity victor to
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: set up your family and yourself and so on for
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: for years to come, right, and you play a game
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: that you love and so on, sure you know the
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: risk and maybe even the eventuality in some cases, but
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: you do it anyway. You understand and you do it anyway.
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: Ct is a newly found disease it Nope, you know,
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: back in the Gladiator era, I'm sure that some of
• 21:53
  Speaker 6: those dudes suffered from CTE. Nobody's going to discover it
• 21:57
  Speaker 6: back I think it was Mike Webster that sort of yeah,
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: was a sort became the the trial point to that.
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: But people laugh like Tino on the text and it says,
• 22:08
  Speaker 6: my god, soccer.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: Really, vic.
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: Do you have you ever played, Tino? You ever you
• 22:14
  Speaker 6: ever like when a guy tips a corner kick and
• 22:17
  Speaker 6: that ball's coming in and you use your head, you
• 22:19
  Speaker 6: think that feels good? Do you think that that's a
• 22:24
  Speaker 6: jarring strike to the head that doesn't affect the brain?
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: I'm sure does.
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: Do you think going up in the air after a
• 22:32
  Speaker 6: goalie kick and heading the ball back do you think
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: that's just normal? Normal? Like everybody does that on a
• 22:38
  Speaker 6: normal day basis, wake up in the morning, walk outside,
• 22:42
  Speaker 6: wait for the soccer ball to arrive, and head it
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: back the other way? You think that's just that's easy.
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: Does it affect the brain?
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: I think, like you see, especially with some of those
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: goalies when they try to make a diving stop, they
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: slam their heads against the post.
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: Those guys were the little headgear things.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: I mean, that is the thing. Yea.
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: And most of the CT and I'm sorry that we jump.
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: Most of the CT issues happen at the line of scrimmage,
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: not even down the field, at the line of scrimmage
• 23:14
  Speaker 6: among linemen who are moving two feet into each other.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Mike Webster, the former Steelers center, I think he's
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: in the Hall of Fame Vick Hall of Fame Center.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: Things got really bad for him toward the end, really bad,
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: and of course they at the autopsy, they oh my goodness,
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: gracious right. Yeah, you can only diagnose this after in
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: post mortem. You can't do it when the person is living.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: So anyway, uh, yeah, I guess we'll talk to Schefter
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: about that. I don't know what you do other than
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: try to, you know, mitigate it as much as possible,
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: keep improving the equipment and so on. And they've done
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: that with the different different zones on the helmets now
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: and the impact zones the absorption of of hits. But again,
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: you never, I'm sure, take it fully out of the
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: game and guys know what they're signing up for and
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: they gladly accept it.
• 24:07
  Speaker 7: Yeah, most at the end of the day, it's just
• 24:08
  Speaker 7: a very physical game.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: No, no, it's time for another rock paper tickets.
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: Keyword physical. I love it. It's football. It's getting me
• 24:18
  Speaker 6: ready for the games coming up.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: And it's a physical practice out there, played by physical people.
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: Physical.
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• 24:53
  Speaker 2: Hey, I got a question for you on the surface.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: Do you think the NBA likes having eight different chances
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: SPIONs in eight different years.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: I'm sure they do. Yeah, I think I think spreading
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: the wealth a round in that regard. Hey, Look, the
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  Speaker 3: league's healthy. Hey man, uh, you know the parody is
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  Speaker 3: never better. Yes, I would tend to agree.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: I think most sports would strive for something like that,
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: to get a quarter of your league a championship in
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: the span of eight years. Yeah, I think that they
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: would all prefer that. Now, the issue that the NBA
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: has is are the punishments for winning.
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: So punitive that teams can't stay at the top.
• 25:35
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• 25:52
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• 25:54
  Speaker 6: I love you both? Do you want raw unfiltered takes?
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: It's like it's it's the same thing these guys talk
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  Speaker 5: That's the only thing that's different.
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• 26:16
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• 26:21
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• 26:23
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• 26:25
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• 26:27
  Speaker 2: When we were at the golf term on Friday to
• 26:28
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• 26:31
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• 26:37
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• 26:39
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• 26:41
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  Speaker 6: Here's the difference. No edits, that's true, No edits. But anyway,
• 27:20
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• 27:23
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• 27:25
  Speaker 6: think this show is great, you.
• 27:27
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• 27:31
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• 27:36
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• 27:39
  Speaker 2: podcast people, you do you can't sit like Keifer and
• 27:43
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• 27:44
  Speaker 5: Oh whateff. Though it's the same, they're saying the same thing.
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: It's just colorful.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm saying you can. You can use more colorful language.
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: But they make it sound like we aren't afraid to
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: go there.
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: It's like you're having the same conversation.
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: Spent a half an hour talking about a NFL alonner
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: hanging around a freaking trailer Parker. Okay, now you know what,
• 28:05
  Speaker 6: Though I do, I do agree with the unfiltered part
• 28:07
  Speaker 6: when it comes to language. The one rule that we
• 28:10
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• 28:13
  Speaker 6: still it's not that different and not that different.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: I think I get my point across using different words.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: You say it sometimes while on this radio show too.
• 28:24
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• 28:29
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• 28:29
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• 28:50
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• 28:54
  Speaker 3: Hang on?
• 28:55
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• 28:57
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• 28:59
  Speaker 3: Jaylen Brown's dad, I had no idea LaVar Ball, you loss.
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: And Dwayne Wade's senior, Dwayne Wade's dad, they're all doing
• 29:09
  Speaker 6: a podcast together. They had Jayleen, I'm sorry, Jason Tatum's
• 29:14
  Speaker 6: dad on the podcast as a guest. Jason Tatum's dad
• 29:19
  Speaker 6: said this about his son's team.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: Realistically, I might say in New York might run him back.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: If you don't say the team, you won't sign on.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: You gotta be crazy. You see his son? I said, right,
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: and say, your son right right now?
• 29:36
  Speaker 6: Rosters?
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: Who cares about the rust?
• 29:38
  Speaker 6: God, dude, he said, right now, the roster is bleep.
• 29:42
  Speaker 6: He's about Tatum's rosters. The Celtics.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: Jason Tatum, his son, the roster he plays for in
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: Boston is bleep.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: Now he might not be wrong.
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: Well, I went back and no, they're.
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: Not bleep, but they're they're not a fifty. They don't
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: look at a fifty six win team to me eight
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: years of different champions. Toronto Raptors won in twenty nineteen.
• 30:03
  Speaker 6: Have they been close since?
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: No? The Lakers in twenty.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Twenty, outside of one Western Conference Finals appearance, they got
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: swept by the Nuggets.
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: Have they been close?
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: Nope?
• 30:13
  Speaker 6: The Milwaukee Bucks won in twenty one. No, not even close.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: No.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: Golden State in twenty twenty two. Gone been a playing team?
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: The Nuggets in twenty three.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: Haven't gone deep since the Boston Celtics two years ago
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: sold the team and then he got OKC.
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: Last year, and or two years ago in New York
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: last year.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: There's something to the idea that you win a title
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: and it is impossibly hard to get back to that
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: level again. And look at OKAC right now. I know
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: that they've kind of reloaded and retooled their lineup.
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: Do you think they wanted to get rid of lou Dort?
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: Absolutely not, but you almost have to when you win
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: a title.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: Oh Am, I supposed to answer these questions or are
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: these just rhetorical questions that everybody already knows the answered to? Both?
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: Because I'm answering your questions like I feel like I'm
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: doing you.
• 30:59
  Speaker 6: A please, are the hypotheticals, right, I love them.
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: It's to me.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: I don't think the league would like that part of it.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: They might like the eight different champions in eight different years.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you want teams that have, especially
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: ones like the Nuggets, and I'll be biased on this,
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: teams that have grown to a championship level almost exclusively organically,
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: the way that you would want a team to build, draft,
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: develop cultivated culture, develop your players into good, starting caliber
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: players in the league, and then you're forced to get
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: rid of them. I don't think that's what they want.
• 31:39
  Speaker 6: I've said this before. I think largely these CBA rules
• 31:42
  Speaker 6: that have been enacted and changed. You know, they changed
• 31:45
  Speaker 6: the middle of the Nuggets run, they altered them a bit,
• 31:48
  Speaker 6: they tweaked them a bit. They started adding these aprons,
• 31:50
  Speaker 6: and that changed things. The original CBA rules were not
• 31:53
  Speaker 6: this restrictive. Part of me wonders if the CBA rules
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: that they had were there to protect the owners from
• 31:59
  Speaker 6: themselves else. I've said this before, maybe so. And the
• 32:03
  Speaker 6: other thing is this, I've always wondered why there isn't
• 32:07
  Speaker 6: some allowance for teams who draft and develop to re
• 32:11
  Speaker 6: sign their own players at whatever number. That doesn't impact
• 32:16
  Speaker 6: the aprons and luxury taxes. If you find a guy,
• 32:19
  Speaker 6: you draft a guy, you develop a guy, you should
• 32:22
  Speaker 6: be able to retain that person's services. Whatever your damn
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: contract stipulations are with the other it shouldn't matter. That's
• 32:29
  Speaker 6: your guy. If you do it the right way, that's
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: the way they want you to do it, right, draft
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: and develop. Yeah, if you're doing it the right way,
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: why are you being penalized for it?
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: Well, here's can I just go through this real quick?
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: So that was from twenty nineteen to now. Those are
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: all the different teams at one right. See if you
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: can spot a difference starting in the year two thousand,
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: here's your champions Lakers, Lakers, Lakers, Spurs, Piston, Spurs, Heats Spurs,
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: Celtics Lakers, Lakers, Mavericks, Heat, Heat, Spurs, Warriors, Calves, Warriors, Warriors.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: It's the same teams over and over and over again.
• 33:01
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it doesn't exist anymore. There was a run there,
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: tell me that the era of the dates. There was
• 33:07
  Speaker 6: a run where it was Warriors Calves every damn year.
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: And I remember, when you're going into the season, somebody says,
• 33:12
  Speaker 6: what do you think about the NBA season. I go, oh,
• 33:14
  Speaker 6: you mean Warriors Calves in the finals? Yeah?
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: Fun, yay, Well the Warriors made five straight finals. Yeah,
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: Warriors Calves for four straight years.
• 33:21
  Speaker 6: Yeah. I mean, so it's Warriors Calves four straight years
• 33:27
  Speaker 6: and you're telling me that's a product. That's good.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: I think you prefer this.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: But at the same time, to get this, it comes
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: with the pain that teams like the Nuggets have suffered,
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: which is you're you're gonna hurt if you win a title.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: It'll be cool, but it's gonna hurt afterwards.
• 33:45
  Speaker 6: If you had to make two changes.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: It's such a great point. I'm sorry to meet up
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: and just kid in my head, that's such a great
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: point because the fan base of these teams thinks, well,
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: why aren't we back there? Why can't we keep getting
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: nobody's back? That's and that That's what I'm saying, is
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: that the fan base has the expectation that why why
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: can't we just keep winning? Right? Being the mix, what's
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: the problem? And they are in the mix, The Nuggets
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: are in the mix, but the prohibitive nature of the
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: CBA makes it very difficult to run it back, very
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  Speaker 3: very very difficult, because you do have to pay players.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, look at the Nuggets though, man Joker Jamal Brown.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: So you've got three of the starting five that are
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: your own drafted and developed players. They should be on
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: another another salary list somehow. There's only it's supposed to
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  Speaker 3: be going on out and just sign a big name
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  Speaker 3: free agents.
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  Speaker 6: Only you should be yeah, you should be able to
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  Speaker 6: protect your own draft picks.
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  Speaker 2: Only two teams have made multiple finals since twenty nineteen.
• 34:46
  Speaker 6: Who are they? Since twenty nineteen? Multiple finals?
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: Multiple final?
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  Speaker 6: Dude, Miami? Ditting? Miami made multiple finals? They did I'm
• 34:55
  Speaker 6: sorry three, Yes, Miami is.
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  Speaker 3: One of them.
• 34:57
  Speaker 6: Yes, Miami's one.
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  Speaker 3: The Mickey Mouse is Boston. The other Boston.
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  Speaker 6: And okay, there's one more that's made multiple finals since then.
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  Speaker 3: Holding holding, hold, hold on, hold on a second, Charlotte,
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: I'm kidding you, taking no damn it uh nothing they
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: go to around the country. No Golden State.
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  Speaker 2: Made it in twenty nineteen, lost to the Raptors, and
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: so they in this different years now they're done.
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  Speaker 6: Only a few different teams have done this now. The
• 35:34
  Speaker 6: Heat made two of them but lost both. Telling you,
• 35:39
  Speaker 6: if if you had to change again, the rule, I
• 35:41
  Speaker 6: would change in the NBA in the collective bargaining agreement
• 35:44
  Speaker 6: is resigning your own drafted players. The other one is,
• 35:48
  Speaker 6: I don't know how to say this without coming across
• 35:51
  Speaker 6: as anti labor, and I'm not that, I'm not. It's
• 35:54
  Speaker 6: just these guys make too much money. There's just too
• 36:01
  Speaker 6: much money, a lot of money. It's just too it's
• 36:03
  Speaker 6: too much. And I don't know what you do. When
• 36:06
  Speaker 6: I say too much, I mean it's it's you got
• 36:09
  Speaker 6: on certain teams again. I told you, guys. The entire
• 36:13
  Speaker 6: Denver Nuggets bench, all right, the entire bench combined, we're
• 36:18
  Speaker 6: talking about nine players combined salary is less than Aaron
• 36:25
  Speaker 6: Gordon's salary, less than Jamal Murray's salary, far less almost
• 36:29
  Speaker 6: half of Nikole Jokicic's salary. Well, there's no middle higher bench.
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: There's no middle in.
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: The league anymore.
• 36:36
  Speaker 6: That's jacked up in my opinion.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: That's you're a vet minimum guy, or a guy on
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: a rickey contract, or you're making thirty to forty fifty
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: sixty seventy million dollars a year.
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: That's it.
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: You're either here here. There's no middle class in the NBA.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: Uh three oh three, five, four oh nine, two five
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  Speaker 2: back after this Adam Schefter at nine twenty this morning.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: Be sure you're listening between the twenty and forty minute
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: mark of each hour each show for those keywords and
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  Speaker 2: a chance to get in arrowhead for the season opener
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  Speaker 2: Broncos and Chiefs.
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  Speaker 3: Hey Man, I was reading Bill Barnwell's latest article at
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: ESPN dot com and it features five teams that he
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: believes in the NFL season most likely to decline coming
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: up from this year or coming up this year from
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: last season. Can you name those five teams? Can you
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: think about the standings from last year? These are all
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: playoff teams and five teams that have the best potential.
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  Speaker 6: To decline, do not make the postseason this year or just.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: Obviously not have the same record, and so on and
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  Speaker 3: so forth. Houston No, Jacksonville, Yes, that's one.
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  Speaker 6: Hold on, hold on, I want to participate.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not sure. I'm not sure we really need you
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  Speaker 3: for this.
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: I mean, what are you doing? Just start barking out
• 37:57
  Speaker 6: teams then if you want to partici.
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: Mark out teams dog barks.
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  Speaker 6: Philadelphia, No, Seattle, No, Chicago.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, that's two.
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  Speaker 6: This is who he believes will backslide.
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  Speaker 2: Broncos yes, Patriots. Yes, there's one more that he believes
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  Speaker 2: will backslide.
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  Speaker 3: A team that made it probably shouldn't have made it.
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  Speaker 6: But to Houston, pay attention to your show.
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  Speaker 3: I'll give you a hit.
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  Speaker 6: It's in the NFC, Rich Charlotte, I mean Carolina, correct Carolina?
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  Speaker 3: Well, how furly gonna slide?
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  Speaker 5: That went eight nine last year?
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  Speaker 6: I know what is this stupid article?
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: What are we doing here?
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: It's pay five teams that may not make the play?
• 38:47
  Speaker 6: Bob, you know what, I think the Jets are gonna
• 38:50
  Speaker 6: be pretty bad this year.
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  Speaker 3: I think you're gonna slide. Okay, but he's talking about
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: the Denver Broncos.
• 38:55
  Speaker 6: I love it when Mark actually reads something and then
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: he finds it necessary to talk about it.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: Either though it's dumb, well nobody, because he laid out
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  Speaker 3: some pretty good He laid out some pretty good reasons
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  Speaker 3: perhaps why the Denver Broncos could slide, and it doesn't
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: necessarily have to do with the offense, although he did
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: say in the article with Jalen Wattle, the offense has
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: got to pull more weight this year. And it's interesting
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: because he laid out all the one score games, and
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: he laid out the wins and how they got there
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: and so on. But he also talked about the defense.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: Vic and here's a stat that may blow your face off.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe it won't, but it might.
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  Speaker 5: My analysis of letting score.
• 39:37
  Speaker 6: You go on.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: Denver was second in the NFL and points allowed per
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: possession through Week eleven, bye week and week eleven. Yeah,
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: over the next four games they dropped all the way
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  Speaker 3: to twenty first.
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  Speaker 5: That is true.
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: Their defense fell off towards the end. And think about
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  Speaker 3: these teams that they faced that they dropped the twenty first,
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: the Commanders without Jayden Daniels, the Raiders, Packers with Jordan Love, okay,
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: and the Jags of.
• 40:02
  Speaker 6: Course Kansas City without Patrick.
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: And their defense was also propped up, they said, he
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: said by facing backup quarterbacks like Chris Olodocan and Trey
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  Speaker 3: Lance over the final two weeks of the regulat.
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  Speaker 6: True.
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  Speaker 3: Then they gave up thirty to the Bills.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, so the defense obviously ran out of gas.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: That's correct.
• 40:21
  Speaker 6: The defense ran out again. So so this year the
• 40:23
  Speaker 6: only tonic against that offense has to do its part
• 40:27
  Speaker 6: correct and not do it just in the fourth quarter
• 40:28
  Speaker 6: time of possession, which translates to convert on third down. Hey,
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: you want a better defense, most tell your offense to
• 40:37
  Speaker 6: start to stop three and out.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: And every day I completely agree. And he went through
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: he went through different scenarios inside these games as well,
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: including the Philadelphia game Broncos take the fourth quarter lead,
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: Eagles fourth and fourth conversion for thirty yards wiped off
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: because of an illegal shift penalty forty three yard punt.
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: Nicks appeared to commit intentional grounding on that next ride,
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: but it was waved off after a lathy delay, and
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: then zach Baum, with a personal foul, extended that drive again,
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: allowing the Broncos to run down the clock a kick
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: a field goal to put the game out of reach.
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: I mean, there were different scenarios inside these games where
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: teams kind of just screwed themselves over to sort.
• 41:12
  Speaker 6: Of hand the Broncos extended drives and wins. Where did
• 41:16
  Speaker 6: the Broncos finish against the run last year? And does
• 41:20
  Speaker 6: he have the first half versus second half against the run?
• 41:23
  Speaker 6: He does not have.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: He does not have that, not in his not in
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: his thing here. But he's talking about an ugly game
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: against the ten to seven lead over the Raiders. In
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: the fourth quarter, Knicks threw a pick on his own
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: left side of the field, But then Daniel Carlson missed
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: a forty eight yard field goal that would have tied
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: the game at ten with four thirty to go. Are
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: he just all these different things in all these different games.
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: He's making a case that, look, they could be very
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: I mean, they're gonna be a good team, don't get
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: me wrong, But the slide, the slide effect could be
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: in full of ale.
• 41:51
  Speaker 6: That was this. That was the offense not doing enough.
• 41:53
  Speaker 6: I tell Lee, you're vick, Now, Vick.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: Were you asking where they ranked against the run, like
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: rushing yards per game?
• 41:58
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: They were second league.
• 41:59
  Speaker 6: Last Yeah, but what were the second half of the season.
• 42:02
  Speaker 6: I guess I think that's where things started to fall off.
• 42:04
  Speaker 6: And when you can't stop the run as well as
• 42:06
  Speaker 6: you did the first half is where you start to
• 42:09
  Speaker 6: get gouged a bit.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: So looking at these games, you know, time and possession
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: is just a killer.
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: It's it's a killer.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: And in the case of the playoff game against the Bills,
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: do you.
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: Know how out of sixty minutes in that game or.
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: I guess a little bit more than that plus overtime.
• 42:31
  Speaker 6: The Bills had the ball all the time forty one
• 42:34
  Speaker 6: minutes of that game, the Bills had the football to
• 42:37
  Speaker 6: your twenty nine minutes and eighteen they until.
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: They went here, Broncos, why don't you take the football?
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: And they did that five times.
• 42:44
  Speaker 6: I'm glad you're bringing that up, though, most because I
• 42:46
  Speaker 6: think you know, we're trying to find holes in the
• 42:49
  Speaker 6: Broncos and this is what happens before the season kicks off.
• 42:52
  Speaker 6: Everybody tries to find holes. I think it's remarkable that
• 42:55
  Speaker 6: the Denver Broncos were able to achieve the record they
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: didively play as well as they did, given the turnover
• 43:03
  Speaker 6: ratio they produced.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: VI, You're exactly so when you look at time of
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: possession and you look at turnover ratio, those two are
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: great predictors on a good football team. Are not a
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: good football team right are winning and losing? So then
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: my question to both of you is, how the hell
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: did they do it?
• 43:18
  Speaker 6: It's amazing.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: How in the hell did they If those numbers are real,
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: and I know they are from last season, how did
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: they do it?
• 43:26
  Speaker 6: When you're fourteen and three football team, your turnover ratio
• 43:29
  Speaker 6: is among the league leaders every year, and yet the
• 43:31
  Speaker 6: Broncos were not there.
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: So what I'm what I'm trying to tell you is
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: that I think people think that that is not replicable.
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: And I'm telling you right now, if you come and
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: meet with the same time of possession and turnover ratio
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: this year for the Broncos, it is they will they
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: will not be the same team. It is not replicable.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: It's impossible.
• 43:50
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• 43:56
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• 43:57
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• 44:01
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