Latest / Gabriel Ellis, PhD | The Curious Mind Podcast / Buddhist Psychology: Toxic Mindfulness
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- 0:00Hello everyone and welcome back to another episode of The
- 0:03Curious Mind. Today I want to reflect on a
- 0:08topic that is interesting for me, both for psychological
- 0:12reasons in my psychotherapy practice and also as a
- 0:17practitioner of meditation with a strong background in Buddhist
- 0:22meditation. I call this episode Toxic
- 0:25Mindfulness because over the years I have seen how wrongly
- 0:31how in a misleading way, people have applied the idea or the
- 0:37concept of mindfulness to their everyday life and also to their
- 0:42meditation or mindfulness practice.
- 0:46So over the past about 20 years, we obviously have seen a
- 0:50popularization of the term and the concept of mindfulness, be
- 0:56it as an applied in stress reduction or as a therapy method
- 1:01or meditation, or generally as a means and kind of a label to
- 1:09improve the feeling of oneself and to the improvement of
- 1:13quality of life. All of these have been slapped
- 1:17on with basic label or practice of mindfulness.
- 1:23Yet many practitioners treat mindfulness in isolation as an
- 1:29isolated tool, as if what I practice had nothing to do with
- 1:34me as a person and individual, as if it had nothing to do with
- 1:39my biography or my subconscious, or with me as a human being as a
- 1:47whole. So this would be OK if I could
- 1:51deal with isolated objectified techniques.
- 1:56So, for example, when I construct a bridge as an
- 2:00engineer, it does not matter much how I feel how the
- 2:05technique of building a bridge relates to my unconscious, as
- 2:09long as I apply the basic tools, the framework, the understanding
- 2:15of mathematics, of statics, of material sciences properly, as
- 2:21I've learned to do as a as an engineer with bridges, for
- 2:25example, I'll be fine and the bridge will stand.
- 2:29The quality and the the quality of the bridge does not depend on
- 2:34my mental composition, as long as I apply all the necessary
- 2:39rules. If I deal, on the other hand,
- 2:43with something that like the meaning of life, like needs,
- 2:49values, quality of life, the relationship with myself, the
- 2:53relationship to others, the world as a whole, or in short,
- 2:58about living. If I deal with living as a
- 3:01whole, then I cannot use isolated techniques.
- 3:06I need to build connections. I have to find meaning.
- 3:10I have to relate everything to me, to my experiences, to my
- 3:15aspirations, and this is exactly what spiritual traditions, good
- 3:19philosophies and comprehensive frameworks of psychotherapy and
- 3:25psychology. This is what they do.
- 3:27They relate the individual parts always back to the whole being,
- 3:34the whole entity of myself. Initially when we encounter such
- 3:42frameworks, be it philosophy, spirituality or psychology, it
- 3:46is not important that this framework is correct, that this
- 3:51framework is right. What these the job of the
- 3:55framework is, is that it connects the isolated,
- 4:01fragmented aspects of my mind and my unconscious so that my
- 4:06whole being has a common vision, so that all the all the isolated
- 4:12parts within myself pull together in One Direction and do
- 4:16not fight each other as they usually do in everyday life.
- 4:22So when we approach mindfulness or therapy or meditation in a
- 4:27technical way, applying tools, we make exactly the mistake of
- 4:34taking limited ideas, limited, objectified, objectifiable
- 4:40concepts, and applying that to me.
- 4:44In other words, I use myself. I view myself as an object, as
- 4:49something that can be manipulated or fixed.
- 4:54I deal with life and living as a technique which it is clearly
- 5:00not, and in doing so this is the most important thing.
- 5:05In doing so, without knowing it, I will bring in all the
- 5:10unhealthy, unreflected qualities that are within me into the way
- 5:17that I practice mindfulness, or attention or intention or
- 5:21meditation. I cannot help but to do this.
- 5:26So whenever I deal with life as a whole, within myself or in
- 5:32relationships, I always bring my whole being into it.
- 5:37And This is why I cannot separate isolated tools or
- 5:41techniques in a healthy way. I bring in, in worst case, my
- 5:48greed, my blindness, myself manipulation, my fears, a lack
- 5:55of energy, my impatience, my lack of frustration tolerance,
- 6:01my wishful fantasies about how how great I would like to be
- 6:06when I have successfully implemented some technique, or
- 6:10how great my current experience is at that moment.
- 6:13All of these biases, all of those aspects of blindness, I
- 6:18necessarily bring in to the situation when I try to improve
- 6:26my quality of life, my outlook on life with such limited
- 6:30techniques. And then whatever I do under the
- 6:34label, mindfulness certainly will not contribute to magically
- 6:40eliminate my incompetence towards myself that I have kind
- 6:46of nourished for such a long time.
- 6:50If I do that, the result is a misunderstood practice of
- 6:56mindfulness. It starts with a
- 6:58misunderstanding of it being a limited technique, and it
- 7:02continues to be a misunderstanding.
- 7:05The misunderstanding is that such a limited technique could
- 7:09contribute to me enjoying life more, or see everything in a
- 7:13positive, calm way to slow down life or become something like a
- 7:19caricature, hedonistic little Buddha.
- 7:23All of these projections, all of these expectations towards any
- 7:28mindfulness or meditation technique must remain empty
- 7:34wishful fantasies. And precisely because we
- 7:38practice bypassing our inner reality with such a tool
- 7:43oriented perspective, and because we are not taking all
- 7:48parts of ourselves with us, our mindfulness practice must become
- 7:53unpleasant or boring or pointless.
- 7:58And if we come to that point, we have to make a change.
- 8:02Because make no mistake, many practitioners hit a wall in the
- 8:06practice. But what we do then is we make a
- 8:09change, we recalibrate our practice, we bring in more
- 8:13curiosity, we try to understand what is actually going on.
- 8:17And this is how I bring parts of myself into the practice.
- 8:21I understand that. My response of frustration or
- 8:25anger towards myself and so on is a reflection of how I treat
- 8:30myself when I hit a wall, when I try to implement such a fanciful
- 8:35ideal. And then I'm bound to success,
- 8:42to a lack of success. But if we force ourselves to
- 8:46continue even beyond that point without a recalibration, then
- 8:50the frustration and the negative aspects of not having integrated
- 8:55them into the practice, they will strike, strike back, and we
- 8:59will build an aversion and an elegy towards anything that is
- 9:04related to mindfulness in any way.
- 9:08And this is what I call toxic mindfulness.
- 9:11This is not just the stagnation, but I will burn the path to a
- 9:16healthy mindfulness practice for the near future.
- 9:21If that happens, then I will not want to know anything about
- 9:26mindfulness or mindfulness related or meditation related
- 9:30for a few weeks, months or even years.
- 9:34I will think that everything is just a pseudo or an ineffective
- 9:38technique and thus even though something like that would be
- 9:42good for me, I will just have cultivated such an aversion
- 9:46towards anything related that it will.
- 9:49This aversion, this allergy will prohibit a healthy access, a new
- 9:55access to anything like that. And rightfully so, because I
- 10:02started again with the misunderstanding of trying to
- 10:05apply an isolated technique to my field of living.
- 10:10And this cannot work so because I have applied a technique, a
- 10:15tool, anything that I call mindfulness under such an
- 10:21approach will have little value because precisely it is not
- 10:28embedded in a framework that engages the whole mind, the
- 10:32whole spirit. To give you an example of how
- 10:38mindfulness is rightly embedded, I will give the example of the
- 10:43ancient Buddhist framework something that I have studied
- 10:46for a long time. So if you understand as an
- 10:50example, again I don't insist that the the Buddhist handling
- 10:53of the concept and the idea of mindfulness is the correct one,
- 10:57but just to show you how it can make sense.
- 11:01So original Buddhism, the goal of it was a radical liberation
- 11:07of the mind. This is partly connected to the
- 11:12nature of our mind in general, but there are many cultural and
- 11:16time sensitive aspects to this concept.
- 11:19So we what I mean to say is we we cannot apply what has been
- 11:25practiced in North India 2500 years ago to the letter to
- 11:30today. We have to adapt it.
- 11:32But nonetheless, the practice of Buddhism is embedded in a
- 11:36framework that is all about the liberation of the mind, a
- 11:40complete liberation of the mind. And in Buddhism, this liberation
- 11:44of the mind is brought about by a spiritual practice.
- 11:49So in contrast to other spiritual directions or
- 11:53religions, it's not about devotion, it's not about grace,
- 11:57but it's a practice. It's something that I need to do
- 12:02in order to bring about liberation in this practice.
- 12:07And this is more specific about Buddhism.
- 12:10Some parts of the mind are applied to other parts of the
- 12:15mind. Certain aspects of focusing the
- 12:18mind are related to parts that are resisting this focus, for
- 12:24example. And thereby it gradually the
- 12:30practice gradually strengthens the healthy aspects of the mind
- 12:34and weakens the unhealthy ones. Now in Buddhism it all starts
- 12:41with some sort of a philosophy about the mind.
- 12:45There is a certain understanding of how the mind, the soul, the
- 12:48spirit are kind of mechanically working.
- 12:52There is a certain logic to that, and Buddhism is describing
- 12:56that logic. And this again is just an
- 12:59example for that represents any kind of large spiritual,
- 13:05philosophical or psychological framework that develops such a
- 13:10grand idea in Buddhism. It is done in a certain way.
- 13:16This is where it starts. And then this leads to a
- 13:20fundamental first aspects of of the practice and this is the
- 13:25ethical orientation in my life. This is how the practice in
- 13:30ancient Buddhism has started reorienting my thoughts, my
- 13:36communication, my feelings and my actions towards a healthy
- 13:44ethical conduct and foundation, then building on top of that.
- 13:50So again, we have the philosophy as our basis.
- 13:53The first step of practice is ethical conduct.
- 13:57And then based on those two pillars, Buddhism introduces and
- 14:02leads to a mental training in the laboratory of the mind and
- 14:07this is called meditation. Now in meditation there is
- 14:13something that is kind of rightly described as
- 14:18mindfulness, and the Poly term Poly is the language in which
- 14:23the oldest form of Buddhism was written down or encoded or
- 14:28memorized. That aspect is in Poly
- 14:32sampajania, and I mentioned this term because usually when you
- 14:36look into literature, the term for mindfulness is called Sati,
- 14:41and I think I can show or we can show I'm not the only one who
- 14:44sees it in this way, that Sati is something else.
- 14:49Sati is going back to very specific aspects of the teaching
- 14:53of the philosophy of Buddhism and applying mindfulness to
- 14:57that. So Sati is the memory, the
- 15:01application to certain aspects of the teaching.
- 15:05Sampajanya is the mindfulness, something that is closely
- 15:10related to what we call mindfulness.
- 15:14Now, in the teachings in the Buddhist sutras, Sampajanya is
- 15:21practiced before meditation as a preparatory stage.
- 15:26Why? It doesn't have a purpose in
- 15:29itself. It doesn't make a life better.
- 15:31It doesn't make me happy. It doesn't make me whatever
- 15:35anything fanciful. It has the specific purpose to
- 15:38prepare a certain muscle, mental muscle, I mean.
- 15:43It is a metaphor, of course, for meditation.
- 15:48The practice of Sampajanya in the Buddhist framework is to be
- 15:54mindful of the body movements, to be mindful of my sensory
- 16:01experiences, to be mindful when I eat, when I swallow, to be
- 16:07mindful when I go to the toilet. Everything that is connected
- 16:11with everyday bodily experiences.
- 16:16The idea is not to get lost in it as a practice per SE.
- 16:22I'm supposed to learn to flex that muscle of mindful attention
- 16:30to when I want it to happen. And again, there is little kind
- 16:37of benefit by itself in this practice.
- 16:41Why? Because original Buddhism is not
- 16:45about happiness. It's not about enjoying my food,
- 16:49enjoying the time with my friends.
- 16:51No. Everything is embedded in a
- 16:53framework that should lead towards the complete liberation
- 16:57of the mind. Only in this sense, mindfulness
- 17:01has a value in original Buddhism.
- 17:05Having learned how to flex that muscle, only then we take this
- 17:12quality of some pagania, the quality of mindfulness.
- 17:17We go into the laboratory of the mind and we apply the quality of
- 17:22mindfulness to the inner working of the mind.
- 17:26Then I applied, for example, to emotions.
- 17:30I applied to thoughts. I applied to the quality of the
- 17:33mind per SE. This is how it makes sense.
- 17:37So this was an example of how within the Buddhist framework,
- 17:43mindfulness and mindful attention has a very specific
- 17:47spot, a purpose and a value, and how it contributes to the big
- 17:52goal, which in this case is liberation.
- 17:58OK, so wrapping it all up, what is my recommendation?
- 18:03My advice is if you cannot commit to a specific practice,
- 18:07be it Buddhist or philosophy such as Stoicism or skepticism
- 18:13or idealism or any kind of grand psychological framework.
- 18:17If you cannot commit to it, which is understandable, then
- 18:22you can also not expect the results.
- 18:25That would come from a dedication to a big model that
- 18:30is designed to inspire and engage the whole mind.
- 18:34So we have to Curb Your Enthusiasm.
- 18:38You have to Curb Your expectations towards the outcome
- 18:41of such a tool based approach. First, do not misunderstand
- 18:47mindfulness and the label of mindfulness.
- 18:50If you practice in such a tool oriented way, don't
- 18:54misunderstand it as what Buddhism calls mindfulness or
- 18:58any other big system calls mindfulness.
- 19:02But see it as a limited western modern technique such as Pilates
- 19:08or jogging or nonviolent communication, something with a
- 19:13very limited perspective and being also conducive and a
- 19:19limited way to our lives. Second, don't overload your
- 19:24system with this isolated practice.
- 19:27Practice it while it's fun. Let it rest when it's not fun.
- 19:32Pick it up when you want to, or move on to the next technique,
- 19:35to the next tool that you think will help you in a more isolated
- 19:40way and will contribute to a general kind of well-being
- 19:44without answering the big questions of life.
- 19:48And 3rd in addition to the technique of mindfulness, also
- 19:52practice inattention. Practice, not awareness.
- 19:59What I mean with that is let go of the understanding that
- 20:02everything has to be meaningful. Every experience that you should
- 20:07not waste your time, every moment needs to be filled with
- 20:10some psychological improvement or the spiritual improvement.
- 20:14Let your mind wander. Allow yourself to Daydream, to
- 20:17relax, to let loose and to enjoy everyday life and your free
- 20:23time. I hope you could benefit from
- 20:28such warnings that I gave you about the application of
- 20:34isolated techniques into your daily life.
- 20:38Reduce your expectations towards such techniques if you can.
- 20:43Find with curiosity aspects that do inspire you, that you found
- 20:50find really fascinating and thus allow the kind of diverging
- 20:58aspects of your mind, the aspects of the unconscious, to
- 21:01come together and pull towards one goal.
- 21:07And with that, you can assure that you will not be fatigued
- 21:11and frustrated by a practice that you have not been fully
- 21:15interested to begin with. Let me know in the comments
- 21:19section if you have questions or comments, and as usual, I will
- 21:23try to pick them up at a later time.
- 21:26Thank you for your attention. Goodbye.