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Who Was the Threat to Democracy in 2016? · The Wes Carroll Morning Show

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Speaker 2: Monday morning, twenty, first day of July. I'm Wes, thanks
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Speaker 2: on a Monday morning together, and now that it's going
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Speaker 2: a full week of shows without any interruptions, no issues
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Speaker 2: God willing. Who knows life happens? Sometimes you never know,
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Speaker 2: You never know. So let's talk about first of all,
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Speaker 2: the story that I think we're probably all think getting
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Speaker 2: sick of, and I think there's some relevance to it,
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Speaker 2: to a really big story that happened at the end
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Speaker 2: of the week, some breaking news that happened on Friday
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Speaker 2: late in the day. And the first story I want
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Speaker 2: to talk about is the Astronomy CEO story. I guess
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Speaker 2: he's resigned, stepped down from his role. The coldplay, a
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Speaker 2: fair bust, I guess, is what you'd call it. I
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Speaker 2: don't know. They got caught, right, That's what happened. They
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Speaker 2: got caught he and the head of HR having a
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Speaker 2: snuggle together, not in an official relationship in any capacity,
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Speaker 2: at least not so the now former head of the
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Speaker 2: company's the former CEO's wife is concerned. So it happened
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Speaker 2: one of those things that it's almost surprising it doesn't
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Speaker 2: happen more often. I know there've been smaller scale versions
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Speaker 2: of this, where the kiss cam comes around at a
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Speaker 2: sporting event. Two people are there and you can tell
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Speaker 2: they don't want to be in the kiss cam. They're
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Speaker 2: probably not supposed to be there together. Sometimes it's maybe
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Speaker 2: they've called out from work. Sometimes they're with someone they're
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Speaker 2: not supposed to be there with. They don't want to
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Speaker 2: be seen. They have to try to play it off.
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Speaker 2: This was two people at this Coldplay concert who tried
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Speaker 2: to play it off in the worst possible way. That
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Speaker 2: just made it worse. I know. There's been a number
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Speaker 2: of memes and all sorts of social media posts other
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Speaker 2: people giving hey, here's how you could have handled this.
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Speaker 2: Here's what you should have done instead of panicking and
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Speaker 2: ducking and dodging and all the things that you did.
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Speaker 2: In the movie Dodgeball, they did all those things. They ducked,
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Speaker 2: dodged all of that. So now we're on this side
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Speaker 2: of it where I think most of us are like, okay,
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Speaker 2: can we move on? There are people saying, hey, haha,
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Speaker 2: good good that the spouse now knows and that they've
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Speaker 2: been outed for this salacious relationship, this affair, whatever, all
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Speaker 2: those details, all that's out there, there's some that are
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Speaker 2: just saying, hey, good, another rich CEO goes down. And
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Speaker 2: that's kind of the angle I want to talk about
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Speaker 2: in this because I have seen the ares a post
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Speaker 2: floating around that it's that time of year again where
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Speaker 2: a CEO gets sacrificed to the gods, ha haha. And
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Speaker 2: in that particular post they also reference the Healthcare President
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Speaker 2: CEO who was murdered by a guy who apparently because
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Speaker 2: he's good looking, then people will forgive him. All right,
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Speaker 2: So it's okay to murder the head of United Healthcare
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Speaker 2: in cold blood, take him away from his family if
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Speaker 2: you're good looking or if people will justify it. And
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Speaker 2: they say, well, he was wronged by the healthcare system.
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Speaker 2: Oh I didn't know he had United Healthcare. Oh no,
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Speaker 2: he didn't. He had to healthcare somewhere else, and he
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Speaker 2: was having problems with getting some health care treatment. So
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Speaker 2: he murdered someone who had nothing to do with his problem.
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Speaker 2: But many perceive, oh, well, he's a rich CEO, and
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Speaker 2: we have this mentality now that's spread throughout this country.
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Speaker 2: This cancer that it's okay to hurt or kill people
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Speaker 2: if they go against something that you believe in in
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Speaker 2: any capacity. It doesn't matter. If they voted for someone
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Speaker 2: you didn't vote for, then it's okay. You can hurt them,
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Speaker 2: you can injure them, you can do whatever you want.
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Speaker 2: They're not people. They're fascists. They're horrible Nazi like little
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Speaker 2: Hitler's running around. They're all those things. Because you help
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Speaker 2: Trump win. So and you act a little weird and quirky,
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Speaker 2: and you have autism and you're elon Musk, so you
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Speaker 2: must be a Nazi. And you did the same thing
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Speaker 2: with your hand that a number of politicians have done
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Speaker 2: over the years. It had nothing to do with Nazis
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Speaker 2: or Hitler or anything. You take a presidential candidate and
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Speaker 2: they someone tries to shoot him in the ear, or
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Speaker 2: they do shoot him in the ear. They were trying
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Speaker 2: to shoot him more than in the year, but they
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Speaker 2: shoot him in the ear. A lot of conspiracy talk
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Speaker 2: around all that, what's going on?
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Speaker 1: What?
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Speaker 2: And the guy have spoons in his house, All these
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Speaker 2: kinds of questions that come up, and you can ask
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Speaker 2: those questions. Certainly, you can go down all those rabbit
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Speaker 2: holes if you want to. But the main focus that
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Speaker 2: I have in it is that when we dehumanize people,
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Speaker 2: then we put ourselves in a position where we can
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Speaker 2: really do anything that we want, and we can justify
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Speaker 2: anything that we want. If you say that Donald Trump
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Speaker 2: is hitler and someone tries to kill him, and then
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Speaker 2: you're kind of forced to backpedal a little bit and go,
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Speaker 2: maybe it's awful thing that happened, and then someone else
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Speaker 2: does it, and then you keep calling him hitler and
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Speaker 2: a threat to democracy and all these horrible things. If
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Speaker 2: someone were truly a threat to democracy, you could probably
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Speaker 2: justify doing some things. I mean, if it was a
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Speaker 2: threat to American democracy and truly and you had some
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Speaker 2: evidence to lay out. But instead, what we're getting and
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Speaker 2: have been getting, is this talk, this conversation that people
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Speaker 2: are a threat to something, and then there's no real backup,
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Speaker 2: there's no justification, there's no explanation for it. They just
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Speaker 2: say he's a threat to democracy, and they trust that
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Speaker 2: the American people will do whatever it is that needs
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Speaker 2: to be done. Now, I'm not saying that they all
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Speaker 2: want cold blood and murder to happen, but some of
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Speaker 2: them do. And this cancer that's spreading through the country
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Speaker 2: is evidence of that. The fact that people think this
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Speaker 2: is funny that United Healthcare CEO was murdered, or that
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Speaker 2: the guys in the submarine died, or the people that died,
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Speaker 2: or with the Orca whales. These are all the CEOs
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Speaker 2: in this particular post that supposedly have been sacrificed to
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Speaker 2: the gods. And now this guy and his family being
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Speaker 2: torn apart. You could make all the cases you want
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Speaker 2: about it being justified because he was cheering on his wife.
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Speaker 2: That's fine. That's a whole separate conversation. Remember though, at
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Speaker 2: a time when people on the left would say, you
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Speaker 2: should mind your business. What people do in the privacy
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Speaker 2: of their bedroom should be, you know, their own private things.
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Speaker 2: We shouldn't get involved scandals, the Clintons, all those things.
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Speaker 2: We don't need to get involved in all that. That's
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Speaker 2: not our business. We don't need to be involved in that.
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Speaker 2: We don't need to talk about that, we don't need
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Speaker 2: to We need to leave people be. And then, of
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Speaker 2: course the privacy of your bedroom turned into parades and
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Speaker 2: celebrations and readings at libraries by drag queens. And then
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Speaker 2: they say, but they should be able to do this
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Speaker 2: out in public and it shouldn't be a problem. Isn't
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Speaker 2: that what these people were doing at the concert. I'm
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Speaker 2: not justifying the behavior of any of it. That's not
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Speaker 2: what I'm doing. I'm just pointing out the fact that
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Speaker 2: just be careful when you celebrate the fact that somebody's
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Speaker 2: sin are exposed. That's all. That's all I'm saying. You
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Speaker 2: have to be careful when you celebrate those things. And
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Speaker 2: you definitely shouldn't be celebrating when people get murdered, and
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Speaker 2: you shouldn't celebrate when someone's career or livelihood or life
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Speaker 2: gets thrown completely off course because of something that happens
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Speaker 2: in the name of politics. And that's not what happened
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Speaker 2: at the Coldplay concert. But I want to focus a
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Speaker 2: little bit on what the last couple of years, and
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Speaker 2: we can go all the way back really to twenty
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Speaker 2: sixteen if you want, and what life has been like
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Speaker 2: for a certain president and former president. See, there was
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Speaker 2: a time where he wins the election and all of
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Speaker 2: this talk about a Russian hoax comes out of nowhere,
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Speaker 2: in spite of the fact that there was apparently some
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Speaker 2: evidence to say that there was no Russian interference with
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Speaker 2: the election. And now on Friday we find out thanks
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Speaker 2: to our Director of National Intelligence, Tulca Gabbard, former Democrat
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Speaker 2: by the way, now independent who actually ran for president
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Speaker 2: against Trump, right, who says, wait a minute, I need
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Speaker 2: to release this, declassify and release this document that shows
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Speaker 2: that the Obama administration and Obama himself's goal with that
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Speaker 2: Russian narrative was to subvert the will of the American people. See,
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Speaker 2: Trump had just won and it was December of twenty sixteen,
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Speaker 2: December ninth to be exact. And according to Gabbard, she
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Speaker 2: says that there was a meeting, and in spite of
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Speaker 2: the fact that there was no evidence to support it,
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Speaker 2: she says, according to the evidence that she's released, that
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Speaker 2: Obama and others, senior members of this Obama team said,
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Speaker 2: go out and find the evidence. Go find it. There
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Speaker 2: was some sort of a Russian hack to the election.
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Speaker 2: And basically by claiming that the election was hacked, they
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Speaker 2: were starting to create a narrative that Trump didn't really win.
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Speaker 2: Does that sound like does that sound like anything at all?
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Speaker 2: That sound like he could be a concern. Remember, for
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Speaker 2: the last year we've been here in the threat to
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Speaker 2: democracy claim that sounds like a threat to democracy, doesn't it.
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Speaker 2: The American people voted for Donald Trump to be president.
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Speaker 2: He won, he was going to be sworn in a
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Speaker 2: little over a month after this meeting took place, and
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Speaker 2: here was the sitting president trying to weaponize the Justice
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Speaker 2: Department to go after him. Then and then we had
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Speaker 2: impeachment hearings that came along, right, one of them related
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Speaker 2: to all this. They wanted to taint his presidency. They
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Speaker 2: wanted to say he wasn't a real president. We had
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Speaker 2: people that were sitting out going to his State of
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Speaker 2: the Union, going to his inauguration, people, by the way,
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Speaker 2: that were setting those things out and sat out other
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Speaker 2: inaugurations that have had voting laws named after them here
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Speaker 2: in the state of Georgia. But anyway, well, voting law
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Speaker 2: is named after them nationally, but they themselves were here
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Speaker 2: in the state of Georgia. But that aside. That aside.
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Speaker 2: So according to our current Director of National Intelligence and
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Speaker 2: these documents released, she says that yes, Obama himself and
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Speaker 2: others Clapper, Comy Brennan, they were all responsible for creating
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Speaker 2: and finding the evidence to support this narrative and move
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Speaker 2: this forward to say Donald Trump wasn't a valid president,
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Speaker 2: and there was no evidence. Anything they found they weren't
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Speaker 2: able to corroborate. Was it real? Who's the threat to democracy?
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Speaker 2: I've told this story before multiple times on the show.
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Speaker 2: I remember very clearly towards the end of the first
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Speaker 2: Trump presidency when the second impeachment was coming along, and
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Speaker 2: there was talk then of we're gonna peach him. We
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Speaker 2: know that we don't have the evidence, we don't have
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Speaker 2: the votes, we're not going to be able to actually
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Speaker 2: convict him, but we're gonna do this impeachment and we're
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Speaker 2: going to try to make sure that no one will
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Speaker 2: ever vote for him again. We're gonna try to do this.
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Speaker 2: We're gonna just take a swing. We know it's not
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Speaker 2: gonna work, we're gonna try, and then we're gonna start
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Speaker 2: filing all these charges against him started to come in.
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Speaker 2: We're gonna prosecute him. And I remember talking to a friend,
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Speaker 2: close friend who told me and I said, they were
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Speaker 2: talking about the impeachment, where do you think this is
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Speaker 2: going to go? And it's going to go nowhere? But
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Speaker 2: I think they have to do it. That's what he said.
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Speaker 2: They have to do it because if it prevents him
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Speaker 2: from being president again, than the outcome is okay what?
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Speaker 2: And there are a lot of people who felt that way.
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Speaker 2: They felt the prosecutions were okay even though they were
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Speaker 2: all of reach. The felonies were a reach. It was
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Speaker 2: a misdemeanor, right, That's all it was. It was a misdemeanor.
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Speaker 2: He documented something in his records that was not what
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Speaker 2: it ended up being normally prosecuted as a misdemeanor. It
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Speaker 2: was with Hillary Clinton, that was with Barack Obama. But
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Speaker 2: they found a way to make it a felony so
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Speaker 2: that they could say, ah, he's a convicted felon, he
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Speaker 2: can't be president, when in reality he could still be president, right,
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Speaker 2: he still could be. They tried to get him off
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Speaker 2: ballots in Colorado. He wasn't gonna win Colorado anyway, but
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Speaker 2: they tried to get him off the ballots. And there's
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Speaker 2: this mindset of it's okay because he's so bad. It's
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Speaker 2: okay because he's Hitler, it's okay because he's a threat
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Speaker 2: to democracy. It's okay because you could do whatever you
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Speaker 2: have to do to try to preserve democracy. Now, I'm
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Speaker 2: not going to go deep into January sixth, but some
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Speaker 2: of the people on January sixth went into the Capitol
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Speaker 2: because they thought that the Democrats stole the election, that
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Speaker 2: they actually did that, and after hearing that Russia tried
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Speaker 2: to interfere and help Trump win, and people on the
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Speaker 2: left in the media saying, this is a viable thing,
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Speaker 2: this could have really happened, that Russia may have actually
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Speaker 2: helped Donald Trump win the presidency. Yet on the other side,
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Speaker 2: when you say, wait a minute, seems to me there's
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Speaker 2: a lot of suspicious things that happened during this COVID election,
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Speaker 2: and that maybe the election was stolen. There's no way.
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Speaker 2: There's no way somebody could steal an election. They can't
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Speaker 2: hack an election. It's not possible. Anybody who says otherwise
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Speaker 2: is crazy. And then you had people that went into
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Speaker 2: the Capitol because they thought they were standing up for
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Speaker 2: someone who was trying to subvert democracy. That's what many
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Speaker 2: of them thought. Some were just walking around in there,
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Speaker 2: Hey we can go in Okay, so most of them
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Speaker 2: I think we're doing But that's another conversation. The point
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Speaker 2: is now that it seems Obama and others Clapper Komi
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Speaker 2: Brennan caught with their hands in the cookie jar. Where
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Speaker 2: does this go? Can we take a minute and step
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Speaker 2: back and say, wait a minute, maybe they're the threat
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Speaker 2: of democracy. Maybe they have been all along, Maybe by
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Speaker 2: dismissing the will of the American people and making Joe
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Speaker 2: Biden step down as the candidate and not having any
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Speaker 2: sort of primary, just saying we're gonna let the vice
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Speaker 2: president just have the nomination votes. She couldn't win votes
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Speaker 2: when she was running as a candidate against Biden, so
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Speaker 2: we're not going to ask her to actually win any
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Speaker 2: votes and then be shocked and surprised when she doesn't
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Speaker 2: win the presidency and then have the excuse ready to go.
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Speaker 2: Americans are sexist and racist, and that's the only reason
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Speaker 2: that they didn't vote for It's not the only reason.
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Speaker 2: I don't think I had anything to do with it. Sure,
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Speaker 2: there's a few people that may be voted that way.
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Speaker 2: But as I've told you before, I have friends who
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Speaker 2: have told me stories of their relatives who are lifelong
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Speaker 2: Democrats who believe, because of their deep religious beliefs, for
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Speaker 2: whatever denomination, that they weren't going to vote for a
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Speaker 2: woman anyway. A man should be in charge. It's in
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Speaker 2: the Bible, they say, or whatever. Their particular text is
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Speaker 2: so you can say, well, this reason, that reason. I
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Speaker 2: think it's because we have a party who going back
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Speaker 2: to at least we now have some evidence twenty sixteen
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Speaker 2: fully capable of trying to subvert the will of the
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Speaker 2: American people. This is exactly that's a quote from Tulsi
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Speaker 2: Gabbert that they were trying to subvert the will of
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Speaker 2: the American voter. So who's the threat to democracy? Who's
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Speaker 2: Week is underway. It started yesterday, So if you suffer
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Speaker 2: from gallophobia, the fear of sharks, you probably want to
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Speaker 2: avoid the Discovery Channel all week. According to a survey,
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Speaker 2: fifty one percent of Americans say they're afraid of sharks.
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Speaker 2: Cite Hollywood depictions of them as the reasons why women
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Speaker 2: tend to be more afraid of sharks than men. Of
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Speaker 2: those that were polts that they want swim in the
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Speaker 2: ocean because of sharks. You have a one in three
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Speaker 2: point seven million chance of being killed by a shark,
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Speaker 2: so you're saying there's a chance, right. There have been
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Speaker 2: fewer than five hundred fatal shark attacks around the world
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Speaker 2: in the past fifty years, most of them in the
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Speaker 2: movie Jaw No Shark franchise. I guess sharks should be
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Speaker 2: much more afraid of us. Sharks are sixteen times more
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Speaker 2: likely to be killed by a human than the other
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Speaker 2: way around. And despite fears, seventy three percent of Americans
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Speaker 2: believe sharks should be protected and not killed unless absolutely necessary.
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Speaker 2: And I think we talked about this a while back,
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Speaker 2: but they call them. This is ranker dot COM's list
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Speaker 2: of the best shark movies, and this list Jaws, of
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Speaker 2: course at the top, Deep Blue Sea, the shallows Jaws
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Speaker 2: to forty seven meters down, the meg the reef forty
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Speaker 2: seven meters down, uncaged, finding Nemo and Shark Knight. I
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Speaker 2: think if more movies were finding nemo sharks, we'd probably
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Speaker 2: not quite be so afraid of them. I think so.
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Speaker 2: If you're tired of procrastinating, experts say that you could
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Speaker 2: get help from your friends. Forcing parties is trending, and
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Speaker 2: it's not really what it sounds like at all. It
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Speaker 2: started with a post on x by a user named Tyler,
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Speaker 2: who said that he needed someone to help him get
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Speaker 2: things done. Sometimes you need a coach or a therapist.
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Speaker 2: Sometimes you just need someone to invite invade your life
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Speaker 2: and force you to book a doctor's appointment, finish a
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Speaker 2: writing assignment, submit the job application, whatever it is. Does
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Speaker 2: this sort of person exist for hire? Well, his friend
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Speaker 2: Crystal suggested they help each other, which led to the
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Speaker 2: idea of hosting a party where friends gather to force
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Speaker 2: each other to complete the tasks of projects they've been
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Speaker 2: putting off. Tyler posted in the middle of a forcing
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Speaker 2: party where friends and I are forcing one another to
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Speaker 2: do things we've been avoiding. So far, a passport has
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Speaker 2: been filed for, an inboxes zeroed, a personal website has
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Speaker 2: been created, and more. I recommend this format. A lot
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Speaker 2: of people enjoyed the idea or the thought of having
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Speaker 2: forcing parties on their own. Others say you can call
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Speaker 2: it something more creative. Some have suggested just do it parties,
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Speaker 2: procrastinator parties, get or done parties. I guess for the
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Speaker 2: Larry the Cable Guy, fan, motivation madness, whatever you call it,
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Speaker 2: the idea is to get together with friends and use
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Speaker 2: the accountability, companionship, and fund to tackle the things that
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Speaker 2: you've been putting off. For some I think this would work.
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Speaker 2: Sure obviously for Tyl or at work, whoever that is.
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Speaker 2: But the point is if it helps you get motivated
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Speaker 2: to get things done and it helps you actually get
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Speaker 2: it finished and completed, sure sounds like a good plan.
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Speaker 2: Should phones be panned at school. Well it's coming here.
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Speaker 2: Sentiment changing about kids having phones in class. New Pew
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Speaker 2: Research survey found seventy four percent of adults in the
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Speaker 2: US say that they would support banning middle and high
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Speaker 2: school students from using phones during class, up from sixty
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Speaker 2: eight percent last fall. Just nineteen percent against the classroom bands,
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Speaker 2: and seven percent aren't sure. Interestingly, fifty seven percent of
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Speaker 2: eighteen to twenty nine year olds support a ban on
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Speaker 2: phones in class, which is up from forty five percent
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Speaker 2: last year, still lower than support among those fifty and
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Speaker 2: older and the thirty to forty nine year old demographics,
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Speaker 2: So they say banning phones from school altogether is growing
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Speaker 2: in popularity. Forty four percent say they support bans on
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Speaker 2: phone use by students during the entire school day, up
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Speaker 2: from thirty six percent last fall. Forty six percent of Americans, though,
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Speaker 2: still oppose all day bans, with another ten percent not sure.
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Speaker 2: Twenty five percent eighteen to twenty nine support the all
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Speaker 2: day ban. That's actually up from eighteen percent twenty twenty four. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: the idea, I guess of the total band versus the
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Speaker 2: kids keep it in the locker and they have certain
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Speaker 2: times where they're able to use them or check them
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Speaker 2: or whatever it is that's really I guess the big difference,
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Speaker 2: and various school districts are basically trying to decide which
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Speaker 2: of those seem to work best for them. I like
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Speaker 2: the idea too, of the kids not having them in
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Speaker 2: the lunch settings, because then they're forced to talk to
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Speaker 2: each other, they're forced to connect, and they're forced to
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Speaker 2: have that sort of connection while they're there at school.
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Speaker 2: All right, that'll do it for this Monday edition of
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