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OnlyFans "Model" Stabs Lover Dead, NEW BODY CAM FOOTAGE · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 2: The porn side Only Fans seems to be sweeping the
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Speaker 2: country in popularity. But for you legal eagles, this is
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Speaker 2: what you need to know. The so called OnlyFans killer
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Speaker 2: model Courtney Cleane as now seen in bodycam video begging
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Speaker 2: to see the Crypto Trader boyfriend she just stabbed dead
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Speaker 2: and tells cops she tried to save his life despite
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Speaker 2: her being scared. Excuse me, you're the one with the knife, lady.
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Speaker 2: I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for
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Speaker 2: being with us. The Only Fans model Courtney Cline covered
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Speaker 2: in blood after allegedly stabbing her boyfriend and begging paramedics
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Speaker 2: to save him after the attack. This is all discovered
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Speaker 2: on newly least bodycam footage. Clinty twenty seven, now facing
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Speaker 2: murder charges in the deadly stabbing of her Crypto Trader boyfriend,
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Speaker 2: Christian am Buselli. They were at their luxury Miami apartment
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Speaker 2: when the murder occurred. The new video shows the moment
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Speaker 2: cops enter the apartment to find the Only Fans model,
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Speaker 2: and I use that in the loosest sense of the word,
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Speaker 2: cradling her victim and crying.
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Speaker 1: Baby, baby, baby, wake.
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Speaker 2: Up and no, no, no no. As police try to
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Speaker 2: move her away. She was covered in blood head to toe,
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Speaker 2: wearing drenched sweatpants and said I can't let this happen
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Speaker 2: and quickly it wasn't me as cops pull her hands
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Speaker 2: behind her neck and cuff her. This is all on
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Speaker 2: bodycam video. While speaking to police, as paramedics try to
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Speaker 2: save the boy friend, she says, I'm terrified for him
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Speaker 2: and I was quote so scared. I'm covered in his
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Speaker 2: blood because I was trying to save him. I need him.
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Speaker 2: He's my other half. Well guess what, lady, your other
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Speaker 2: half is dead? What exactly happened?
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Speaker 1: Listen our friends WSVN.
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Speaker 3: A bloody Sunday domestic killing inside a trendy Miami high rise.
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Speaker 4: I think everybody is in shah actually, like claberdapted.
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Speaker 3: These images come courtesy of TMZ The Sparkling One Putty
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Speaker 3: is so condominium is where it got violent days ago,
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Speaker 3: and now a twenty seven year old man is dead
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Speaker 3: and his family is devastating. Courtney Clenney, a famous Instagram model,
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Speaker 3: is who Miami Policay was involved in a physical altercation
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Speaker 3: with Obumselli, who was stabbed.
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Speaker 2: Wow, the way they said that the sparkling one Paraiso condominium.
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Speaker 2: That proves it doesn't matter where you live, or how
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Speaker 2: much money you have, or education or what color you
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Speaker 2: are doesn't matter. Crime can and we'll find its way
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Speaker 2: into your life. An Only Fans model now charged with murder?
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Speaker 2: How the hey is this twisted around to where she
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Speaker 2: is the victim? Take a listen nowt to our friends
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Speaker 2: at WPLG.
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Speaker 5: Following the stabbing, Clenny was detained. She was brought here
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Speaker 5: to the police department for questioning, and during that process
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Speaker 5: she was threatening to kill herself, so officers took her
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Speaker 5: to the hospital where she was baker acted.
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Speaker 6: Detectives revealed Christian Obumselli was stabbed during an argument inside
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Speaker 6: their luxury Miami apartment in April. After the stabbing, video
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Speaker 6: obtained by TMZ shows Clenny handcuffed and covered in blood
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Speaker 6: sitting on the floor. Clenny was not charged during the
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Speaker 6: initial investigation.
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Speaker 1: What not charged?
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Speaker 2: She's sitting on the balcony of a high rise translation,
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Speaker 2: nobody went in or came out high rise balcony covered
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Speaker 2: and her boyfriend blood and she's not charged? What because
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Speaker 2: she's pretty and has a big bosom? Is that why
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Speaker 2: she's not charged? Okay, she's what too pretty for jail?
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Speaker 2: Did you hear that earlier part? You know, I want
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Speaker 2: to go.
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Speaker 1: To you, Charlie Langston, female editor.
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Speaker 2: That's Fie m Ai l at dailymail dot com.
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Speaker 1: But I've got to just go to doctor Charles Heller.
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Speaker 2: Heller, clinical forensic psychologist, specializing in domestic violence. He's at
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Speaker 2: Rutger's Biomedical and Health Sciences. Doctor Heller, is there a
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Speaker 2: clinical term for drama queen? The boyfriend is stabbed dead
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Speaker 2: and then she's what hyperventilating in her push up bra
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Speaker 2: on the balcony covered in his blood, and she threatens
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Speaker 2: to kill herself. Yeah, of course she didn't kill herself.
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Speaker 1: But just what's the word for that? Historyonic?
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Speaker 2: I guess I bet you've got a really big word
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Speaker 2: for drama.
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Speaker 7: Well, we could start with narcissism. We could go to
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Speaker 7: antisocial personality, disorder, borderline personality. Also, there's a strange addiction
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Speaker 7: that people have to other people, quote codependency, and I
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Speaker 7: think both of these people were addicted to each other
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Speaker 7: and could not leave each other.
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Speaker 2: Okay, hold on, hold on, I've got something to throw
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Speaker 2: at you. Okay, everybody on the pallend, just hold on
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Speaker 2: them on. Doctor Heller with me is a renowned expert,
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Speaker 2: doctor Charles Heller, forensic psychologist at Rockland County Chief Forensic
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Speaker 2: Consultant and at Rutger's Biomedical. That's not shabby, doctor Heller.
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Speaker 2: Maybe you can put this in the correct clinical terms.
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Speaker 2: But I've had friend girls in the past. Oh, I
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Speaker 2: don't like him.
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Speaker 1: He's boring. I'm like, whoa, whoa, wait a minute.
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Speaker 2: You've dated all these losers who stand you up, who
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Speaker 2: cheat on you. They're drinkers, they do drugs, they're unemployed,
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Speaker 2: then they're employed. You know, they yell at your children.
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Speaker 1: You go up and down and up and down. You
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Speaker 1: finally get a decent guy and he's boring. Seriously, what
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Speaker 1: is that?
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Speaker 2: When you are so addicted to the roller coaster of
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Speaker 2: an abusive or toxic relationship, You're so addicted when you
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Speaker 2: finally get a nice guy that works for a living,
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Speaker 2: comes home and takes you out to dinner, that's boring.
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Speaker 2: You don't want red lobster anymore. You want to go
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Speaker 2: have a fight in the parking lot.
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Speaker 1: What is that?
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Speaker 7: Well, first of all, that kind of person also has
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Speaker 7: an addiction, an addictive personality, and they crave a certain
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Speaker 7: stimuli in another person that gives them like a high,
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Speaker 7: and being close to another person like that is what
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Speaker 7: they crave and they want to control that person.
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Speaker 2: Did you think it's not necessarily a personality trait? But
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Speaker 2: they're conditioned to it. They're used to the highs and
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Speaker 2: the lows, and the roller coaster and the happiness when
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Speaker 2: he brings the roses, and the despair when he doesn't
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Speaker 2: show up overnight.
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Speaker 1: You're like, wow, is he with a hooker?
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Speaker 2: I mean, when you're used to that and then you
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Speaker 2: have a somewhat normal relationship, that's boring. I don't know
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Speaker 2: that that would be a personality trait. It could be
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Speaker 2: just what.
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Speaker 1: You're used to.
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Speaker 2: Like children that grow up in a violent home, they're
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Speaker 2: really not happy until they are in a violent home
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Speaker 2: themselves and that feels normal to them.
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Speaker 7: Well, code dependency is a family disease, just like alcoholism,
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Speaker 7: and it starts in the family you grew up in.
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Speaker 2: Yeahs, you're hearing doctor Charles Heller and I haven't even
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Speaker 2: gotten into the facts yet.
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Speaker 1: We have an all star panel with us.
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Speaker 2: But I just had to go to doctor heller about
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Speaker 2: this woman the only fans model and no Charlie Langston,
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Speaker 2: editor of Female Femail at dailymail dot com. Charlie, how
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Speaker 2: is it He's did from multiple stablins on the floor
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Speaker 2: and she turns out to be the victim and threatens
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Speaker 2: to kill herself.
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Speaker 8: Really, she is claiming that he was stabbed in self defense.
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Speaker 8: She claims that he grabbed her by the throat and
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Speaker 8: that she grabbed the knife to defend herself. However, I
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Speaker 8: should point out the cops who went to the apartment
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Speaker 8: and said that there was absolutely no evidence of any
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Speaker 8: injury on her body, So there is extreme doubt over
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Speaker 8: her claim that he grabbed her by the throat. If
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Speaker 8: he did that and left not a single mock, it
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Speaker 8: can't have been violent enough in my opinion, to warrant
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Speaker 8: a response with a knife.
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Speaker 2: Brad and Micklin is joining us, guys. He is a
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Speaker 2: very high profile lawyer joining us, Lead attorney, managing member
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Speaker 2: at the Micklan Law Group, joining us.
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Speaker 1: Out of New Jersey.
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Speaker 2: You can find him at Micklinlawgroup dot com. Brad, I
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Speaker 2: hate a lot of aspects regarding criminal defendants, but one
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Speaker 2: thing I really hate, and this is having defended battered
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Speaker 2: women for many, many years and work as a volunteer
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Speaker 2: for nearly ten years at the Batter Women's Center. I
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Speaker 2: hate when women aggressors, women bullies, women killers use the
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Speaker 2: batter women syndrome to their benefit when it's not true,
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Speaker 2: because people hear about it, and then when.
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Speaker 1: They're sitting on a jury with a real battered woman,
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Speaker 1: they go, oh, this is bs. See what I mean.
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Speaker 9: I agree, it's supposed to be a shield, a protection
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Speaker 9: battered women's syndrome, the domestic violence protection orders, but people
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Speaker 9: use it as a weapon, and then when the victim
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Speaker 9: is dead and can't defend himself, it's an easy defense
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Speaker 9: to use. I mean, your whole conversation with doctor Heller
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Speaker 9: before was implicitly saying Christian was to blame, that she
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Speaker 9: was addicted to his abuse, to his dependency, and we're
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Speaker 9: already talking about what did he do, what was his
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Speaker 9: role in this, without talking about the fact that she
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Speaker 9: stabbed them, and everything that was recorded and shown shows
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Speaker 9: that she goes from common to rage and nothing more.
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Speaker 2: On the other hand, you really can't ignore the statistics
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Speaker 2: so typically overwhelmingly, like ninety plus percent of the time,
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Speaker 2: it is the male that is the aggressor. I can't
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Speaker 2: avoid that truth, and that's a truth we've got to
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Speaker 2: deal with.
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Speaker 1: But speaking of Herbie, the vistas the.
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Speaker 9: Truth unless you accept that stat well, I didn't start
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Speaker 9: to support anything.
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Speaker 1: Well, I usually stay with the Department of Justice. And
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Speaker 1: should I believe you? Micquelin, are my lion eyes.
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Speaker 2: I know what I saw in court every day for
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Speaker 2: ten straight years plus. I know what I saw at
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Speaker 2: Grady Memorial Hospital where all the beat up women go.
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Speaker 1: I know what I saw at the Battered.
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Speaker 2: Women's Center, night after night after night of battered women.
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Speaker 1: So you are my lion eyes. Let me think about that.
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Speaker 9: Well, don't look. I tell you that women are often
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Speaker 9: significant victims of the mesk of violence, but that doesn't
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Speaker 9: negate the fact that justice. Many men are too. Just
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Speaker 9: more of them are.
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Speaker 2: I don't know what you're smoking, man, but I'm not
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Speaker 2: getting near it. So the claim that she is the victim.
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Speaker 2: Take listen now to our cut ten. This is our friends.
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Speaker 2: These are our friends at Fox seven and WPLG.
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Speaker 10: Behind closed doors. We just started hearing some shouting, yelling.
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Speaker 10: We don't know who was starting what. We didn't get
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Speaker 10: a lot of contacts. Occasionally we would hear some glasses
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Speaker 10: break and some banging on.
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Speaker 1: The walls, floors.
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Speaker 10: Not sure you know who is doing it. I just
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Speaker 10: want people to know that it had been going on
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Speaker 10: for a long time and it definitely could have been stopped.
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Speaker 5: When police reported that Obumseelli was fatally stabbed by Clannie
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Speaker 5: on Sunday inside their Miami apartment, the friends were left speechless.
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Speaker 5: They portray a very violent relationship at the hands of
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Speaker 5: only one person.
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Speaker 11: We've seen her hit him. I've never seen him hit her.
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Speaker 2: But regardless of what friends and neighbors insist to be true,
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Speaker 2: somehow the Only Fans model is being painted as the victim.
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Speaker 2: Take a listen to our friends at WPLG.
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Speaker 1: Her lawyers sent me this statement.
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Speaker 6: It reads in part of them Celly attacked her and
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Speaker 6: choked her that evening. Courtney had no choice but to
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Speaker 6: meet force with force. In April and told Local ten
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Speaker 6: he had a clear view of the couple's apartment and
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Speaker 6: saw Clenty getting physically abused.
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Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace. Trust me.
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Speaker 2: Bodycam video of the date of the so called OnlyFans
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Speaker 2: murder will be admitted into evidence in front of a jury.
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Speaker 2: That is, unless the state takes a cheap plea on
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Speaker 2: what should be a murder one charge. The bodycam video
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Speaker 2: is damning the defendant. Clenny, who uses the name Courtney
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Speaker 2: Taylor on her porn platforms like Instagram and only fans,
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Speaker 2: acknowledges she kills her boyfriend, but now says she acted
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Speaker 2: in self defense. Her defense attorney, Frank Prieto, insists the boyfriend.
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Speaker 1: Was the abusive one. But that's not what friends and
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Speaker 1: family say.
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Speaker 12: Listen to this, Talk to me what is going on?
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Speaker 9: Like?
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Speaker 1: What do you are you gonna get this out of me?
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Speaker 1: When I'm apologizing to you, but you're.
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Speaker 13: Thinking I'm doing it. I'm not your Okay, I'm not
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Speaker 13: doing it on purpose. The right to tell me yes,
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Speaker 13: and I am so sorry. Shut up, you've done. Give
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Speaker 13: me my phone? You find it, shin, I'm sorry, I
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Speaker 13: don't care.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 2: That's not gonna help her claim that she's the victim.
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Speaker 2: To Charlie Langton joining us from dailymail dot Com, the
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Speaker 2: editor of Female What did I just hear? I heard
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Speaker 2: going we are going crazy on him, cursing at him,
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Speaker 2: ordering him around. She's saying something like you touched her.
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Speaker 2: The right thing to do is to tell me. She
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Speaker 2: is really letting him have it.
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Speaker 1: He's going, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. What was that all about?
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Speaker 8: So what you were hearing? There was a recording that
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Speaker 8: Obam Celley himself made. It's one of multiple recordings of
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Speaker 8: moments when Clenny was abusive towards him. Some of the
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Speaker 8: other recordings are even more horrific. You can hear her
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Speaker 8: physically slapping him. You can hear her repeatedly calling him
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Speaker 8: the N word. She swears at him, she belittled him,
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Speaker 8: she bereats him.
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Speaker 2: Did you say call him the N word? Well, he's black,
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Speaker 2: she's white.
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Speaker 8: I called him the N word on multiple occasions and
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Speaker 8: he recorded all of it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, Charlie Langston.
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Speaker 2: There are a lot of audiotapes and guess what we've
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Speaker 2: got them. This is reminding me of Johnny Depp versus
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Speaker 2: Am or Her, with not quite as much money involved.
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Speaker 1: Take a listen to this. Just don't.
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Speaker 14: Yeh man, oh man, because I'm.
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Speaker 11: Telling you I don't know your phone is.
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Speaker 8: Fine it do you help me find it?
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Speaker 13: I man, man, your man.
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Speaker 1: Your man? Yeah a man?
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Speaker 2: Yeah man, Okay, sadly you're gonna hear more.
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Speaker 1: Listen, I need to mind it because I have to
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Speaker 1: on my r down to go out. Now you don't
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Speaker 1: have to fold. Just please shut up, shut up, you
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Speaker 1: want to go, I didn't go to go about it.
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Speaker 2: Okay, put on your seabell because there's a lot more
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Speaker 2: joining me. Dan Corsantino, former police chief, former sheriff, served
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Speaker 2: on Home US Homeland Security Senior Advisory Board, now private investigator.
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Speaker 2: You can find him at Dankorsantino dot com. He seems
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Speaker 2: to know everything about every high profile case that I'm
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Speaker 2: interested in. Dan Corzantino murder very often we don't know
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Speaker 2: what led up to it. We don't know what's going
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Speaker 2: on behind the scenes.
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Speaker 1: But what do you make of what you're hearing right now?
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Speaker 1: All this over a lost iPhone fight? Used buy my iPhone?
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Speaker 1: For Pete's sake? Why are they fighting over an iphon phone?
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Speaker 1: To this degree? What's happening? And he is upstabed.
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Speaker 15: Dead well to me, obviously, it's a very dysfunctional relationship
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Speaker 15: to say the very minimum. But as you take a
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Speaker 15: look at the pattern of behavior with a miss Clinnie
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Speaker 15: in this situation, it appears that she and I hate
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Speaker 15: to use the terminology as a spoiled little brat but
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Speaker 15: it appears that she is a young woman who is
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Speaker 15: wants to be controlling, demanding in the situation, and if
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Speaker 15: she's not getting her way, she escalates her behavior. And obviously,
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Speaker 15: not being a psychologist, but being a cop, one of
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Speaker 15: the things you look for upon entering a situation is
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Speaker 15: the demeanor of the individuals or individual that is in
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Speaker 15: the house. And in this case, she may have fooled
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Speaker 15: some people, were attempted to fool some people because you know,
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Speaker 15: she was an normally fans model. She was acting and
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Speaker 15: she's a very good actress.
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Speaker 1: You know what.
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Speaker 2: I'm trying to absorb everything that you just said because
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Speaker 2: there are parts of that there. It's very profound as
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Speaker 2: it relates to the probative nature of Clinny's personality.
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Speaker 1: Charlie Langston, what about it? Did you hear what Corsantino
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Speaker 1: just said?
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Speaker 5: I did?
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Speaker 1: And did you see.
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Speaker 2: That picture Charlie Charlie Langston joining us from daily mail
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Speaker 2: dot Com of her sitting on the balcony covered in blood,
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Speaker 2: but somehow she manages to have her left breast hanging out.
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Speaker 1: I police get there, okay, and the dog.
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Speaker 2: Nobody's commented on that, but I mean there it is
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Speaker 2: and the dog is sitting there just looking her like,
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Speaker 2: what did you just do?
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Speaker 1: Do you see this?
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Speaker 8: I did, and I think it's in.
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Speaker 1: Your article, Charlie Man. I'm looking right at it.
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Speaker 8: And it I mean, it's unbelievably shocking, and I.
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Speaker 2: Think, I mean, the cops are coming, so hey, just
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Speaker 2: take your breast out.
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Speaker 8: Well, and I think you know, the image that was portrayed,
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Speaker 8: whether or not it was constructed or real, is an
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Speaker 8: image of someone who is trying to look in a
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Speaker 8: state of emotional distress, because that is one of the
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Speaker 8: things that she has claimed that there is no way
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Speaker 8: she could be responsible. There's no way that she could
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Speaker 8: have intended to kill him because she was in such
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Speaker 8: a state of emotional distress when cops arrived. That's not
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Speaker 8: someone who intended to kill someone.
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Speaker 2: Or is someone that killed their boyfriend in an angry
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Speaker 2: Brady fit. He couldn't be Yeah, couldn't get the empts
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Speaker 2: there fast enough to save his life.
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Speaker 1: Neither she cared. Nos, the cops are there, so she
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Speaker 1: takes her breast out.
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Speaker 2: I don't know what effect that's going to have on
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Speaker 2: a female cop running up what fifteen.
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Speaker 1: Flights of stairs, But that said, there it is.
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Speaker 2: That's something for the jury to mul joining me Doctor
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Speaker 2: Todd M. Barr, board certified anatomic Clinical forensic Pathologists joining
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Speaker 2: us out of Ohio. Featured in Thin Places Essays from
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Speaker 2: Todd Barr MA. That stands for Medical Examiner doctor Barr.
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Speaker 2: What do you make of this copious amount of blood
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Speaker 2: from a stab to the shoulder?
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Speaker 14: Well, yeah, Nancy, I'm looking at the crime scene photos and.
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Speaker 2: Rich crime scene photos of her on the balcony with
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Speaker 2: her breast hanging out.
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Speaker 14: Well there's that, but I'm that too. The picture of
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Speaker 14: the knife on the floor with the blood spatter all
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Speaker 14: over the walls and all over the floor, clearly an
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Speaker 14: artery with hits. That's a lot of blood spatter and
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Speaker 14: coming from an artery which is under great pressure.
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Speaker 1: And the fact you know which artery the carotid, Well.
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Speaker 14: If he was stabbed shoulder, yeah, it's probably the subclavian
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Speaker 14: artery of the brake deal artery. One of the words, Oh.
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Speaker 1: Okay, wait a minute, I'm just a JD. You're the MD.
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Speaker 9: The what.
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Speaker 2: We only we typically hear of the carotid in the
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Speaker 2: net or the femeral in the leg. What are the
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Speaker 2: ones you just said break you'll that means arm right exactly.
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Speaker 14: And subclavian is what comes off of the order that
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Speaker 14: feeds the blood to the shoulder area to the break.
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Speaker 1: You'll subclavian now clavicle is this right?
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Speaker 14: Uh? Yeah?
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Speaker 2: Okay, Jackie, Doctor Jackie saying yes, So sub means below
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Speaker 2: that there's an artery there and the brak you'll artery
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Speaker 2: in your arm, correct.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, So all of those blood vessels and all the
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Speaker 14: nerves that feed the arm, everything sort of come together
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Speaker 14: right through and they sort of traverse down through the
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Speaker 14: armpit and down into the arm area. But this is
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Speaker 14: from something that was arterial in nature as far as
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Speaker 14: I can tell from the pictures I'm looking at.
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Speaker 2: When you say it that way, it sounds like you're
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Speaker 2: dissecting a bug arterial in nature.
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Speaker 1: You mean she stabbed him in an artery? Is that
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Speaker 1: what that means?
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Speaker 14: Yeah, that's exactly what that means.
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Speaker 2: Artery is more like have you ever driven by a
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Speaker 2: fire hidge and just see the words shooting out?
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Speaker 14: Exactly, that's our tear.
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Speaker 1: That's a stab in the artery.
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Speaker 14: That's exactly right. It's under intense high pressure. Every time
23:28
Speaker 14: the heart contracts, it's forcing that blood into those arteries.
23:32
Speaker 14: So and the heart is just a solid muscle, so
23:35
Speaker 14: every time it squeezes, it's going to shoot that blood out.
23:38
Speaker 14: In fact, veins are under very low pressure because they're
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Speaker 14: just sort of returning the blood back to the heart,
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Speaker 14: so it's sort of a passive movement of blood in
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Speaker 14: the in the venus system. But arterial blood is under
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Speaker 14: high pressure.
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Speaker 2: Haven't I told you you need to do an audio book.
23:55
Speaker 2: You may just talk about cases and explain it because
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Speaker 2: that it's incredibly interesting just in the way you explain
24:04
Speaker 2: it makes so much sense. I mean, Charlie Langson, now
24:07
Speaker 2: let's take what doctor Todd M barr has said and
24:10
Speaker 2: apply it to this situation. And he goes right back
24:13
Speaker 2: to that picture of her and her one breast hanging
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Speaker 2: out on the balcony, and she's totally it's so bloody.
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Speaker 1: It looks like a Halloween costume. It does.
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Speaker 8: It's it's goriyan graphic.
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Speaker 2: Okay, now we're back back to the actual crime we
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Speaker 2: were talking about. I was playing for you audio. Well, okay,
24:32
Speaker 2: they're not over yet. Take a listen to this.
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Speaker 13: I was going on a bike ride, just gonna make
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Speaker 13: you act like this.
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Speaker 15: Corney.
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Speaker 13: I was on the bike ride and she passed me
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Speaker 13: and I said, Hi, you and Courney are having a
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Speaker 13: life chat my bed. I forgot to tell you that
24:54
Speaker 13: that doesn't make you to act.
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Speaker 1: In com yes, thinking yeah, operated.
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Speaker 16: One, ma'am, listen to me.
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Speaker 1: You need to stop.
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Speaker 15: Stilling on the line and give me the address.
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Speaker 4: One taking my arm, one on one in my arm,
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Speaker 4: what man, but my brid ma'am, what is the address?
25:43
Speaker 4: What's one.
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Speaker 1: Northeast?
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Speaker 4: Please do come to my head.
25:54
Speaker 2: You're hearing at the beginning more screaming, and you also
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Speaker 2: hear Courtney Clinny slapping him Christian open selly, and the
26:04
Speaker 2: whole thing is on audio, which begs the question why
26:09
Speaker 2: was he videoing or taping the argument?
26:13
Speaker 1: And then you hear.
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Speaker 2: The star of the whole trial, her nine one one call,
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Speaker 2: screaming again, and.
26:21
Speaker 1: The dispatch says, you got to stop.
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Speaker 2: Screaming and tell me your address, and you can hear
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Speaker 2: probably some of the last words ever spoken by Christian,
26:31
Speaker 2: and he is saying, I'm dying. I can't fill my arm.
26:36
Speaker 2: I'm gonna die. I want to ask you, Charlie Lankson.
26:40
Speaker 2: We endured together the Johnny Depp amber her trial, and
26:46
Speaker 2: people kept.
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Speaker 1: Saying, why would she.
26:50
Speaker 2: Was she starting an argument with him and then videoing
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Speaker 2: him or videoing him drunk, or videoing him drunken passed
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Speaker 2: out with ice cream melting in his lap?
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Speaker 1: Why?
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Speaker 2: I mean, if my husband was in a bad way
27:02
Speaker 2: and he was passed out with ice cream or food
27:05
Speaker 2: all over him, I wouldn't video it. So in this case, however,
27:10
Speaker 2: why is he Christian o'mselli audio taping the argument where
27:16
Speaker 2: she's physically attacking him because some woman rode by him
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Speaker 2: on a bike and said hi to me.
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Speaker 8: The fact that he was recording her is evidence that
27:27
Speaker 8: their relationship had been abusive for a very long time.
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Speaker 8: There's also other evidence to.
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Speaker 1: Back that up.
27:33
Speaker 8: You've got neighbors talking about smashing things. She had been
27:36
Speaker 8: arrested previously for domestic violence, and I think he knew
27:40
Speaker 8: that the face that she was showing to the world
27:43
Speaker 8: was a very different face than the one that he
27:46
Speaker 8: saw behind the scenes, and he knew that in order
27:49
Speaker 8: to protect himself, he needed to make these recordings so
27:53
Speaker 8: that he would have evidence if he ever got into
27:56
Speaker 8: a situation where she tried to flip the script and
27:59
Speaker 8: say that he had been a youth. And the devastating
28:01
Speaker 8: thing is these recordings will now serve as evidence, but
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Speaker 8: not to protect him. They will serve as evidence in
28:10
Speaker 8: a murder trial.
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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 2: Welcome Back, everybody and only fans model now charged with
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Speaker 2: murder in the brutal stabbing death of her boyfriend. The
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Speaker 2: so called model also told investigators the boyfriend pushed her
28:43
Speaker 2: and threw her to the floor, that she then grabbed
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Speaker 2: a knife and threw it at the victim from about
28:50
Speaker 2: ten feet away, but the medical examiner says, uh, no way.
28:56
Speaker 2: The emmy that performed the autopsy says the victims wounds
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Speaker 2: could not have been caused by a knife thrown from
29:04
Speaker 2: that distance. The body of victim Christian and Buselli taken
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Speaker 2: from the Miami apartment directly to the medical Examiner's office.
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Speaker 2: Released nine one one. Audio following the brutal stabbing reveals
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Speaker 2: the suspect telling her lover baby, I'm so sorry. This
29:26
Speaker 2: is right after she plunges the knife into his body. Now,
29:31
Speaker 2: she didn't tell nine one one she stabbed the boyfriend,
29:33
Speaker 2: but she sobbed and sobbed to him about how quote
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Speaker 2: sorry she was. In the background, you can actually hear
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Speaker 2: twenty seven year old Christian crying, I can't feel my arm.
29:49
Speaker 2: I don't know how the jury's going to stand seeing
29:50
Speaker 2: and hearing this that day turns deadly. It tells me
29:56
Speaker 2: he was abuse so often he finally started recording it.
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Speaker 7: These people were addicted to each other. She was really inappropriate,
30:08
Speaker 7: and she was very jealous. Anytime he looked at someone,
30:13
Speaker 7: she probably would have a fit, a bad one.
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Speaker 1: You know, I don't get that.
30:18
Speaker 2: You know when my husband go jogging for a walk
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Speaker 2: and a woman goes by and he glances over, and
30:23
Speaker 2: I'm like, good, I'm glad to say, you're still alive, David,
30:26
Speaker 2: keep going excuse your blood still pumping through your veins.
30:30
Speaker 2: I wouldn't think of yelling and beating him because he
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Speaker 2: spoke to some lady.
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Speaker 1: Just it's so twisted up.
30:38
Speaker 2: But to you, Brad Micklin, high profile lawyer at the
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Speaker 2: Micklin Law Group, this is exactly what leads up something
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Speaker 2: as stupid as saying hi to a woman going by
30:48
Speaker 2: on a bike to murder.
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Speaker 1: It's insane.
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Speaker 9: It is insane, and we keep having this conversation about
30:56
Speaker 9: him being addicted to her or the relationship being abusive. No,
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Speaker 9: she was abusive. She stabbed them. And I think Christian
31:04
Speaker 9: was recorded as because he knew or feared that she
31:08
Speaker 9: would call the police one day, say he was committing
31:10
Speaker 9: domestic violence. He would be arrested for it, and him,
31:13
Speaker 9: being bigger and stronger, would have no defense. So we
31:16
Speaker 9: start to record it to defend himself, which unfortunately he
31:20
Speaker 9: can't do any longer. And I hope that they're used
31:22
Speaker 9: in a criminal trial to show just.
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Speaker 7: How violent she was.
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Speaker 1: Okay, guys, uh, her claim that.
31:27
Speaker 2: She's the victim, Well, this is not going to help.
31:32
Speaker 2: This is body cam footage and you know what that means.
31:34
Speaker 2: That means the cops have arrived. This was a previous event.
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Speaker 11: Listen, yes, yes, why do you.
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Speaker 1: Stop?
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Speaker 2: It's everybody talking on top of each other. But we
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Speaker 2: hear her and this is to a cup. I do
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Speaker 2: not advise speaking down to or being belligerent to a cup.
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Speaker 1: No, what's happening there, Charlie Langston.
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Speaker 8: So this was recorded the day before Albam Sully was
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Speaker 8: stabbed and the cops were called to her apartment building.
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Speaker 8: She claims that she had thrown Abam Selly out of
32:41
Speaker 8: their apartment the week before that they had broken up,
32:44
Speaker 8: and she accused him of stalking her, and she demanded
32:47
Speaker 8: that the cops give her a restraining order. The interesting
32:50
Speaker 8: thing is you can hear her in one recording telling
32:54
Speaker 8: the cops I need a restraining order before he gets one,
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Speaker 8: which suggests to me that she knew that he had
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Speaker 8: a full claim to accuse her of the same kind
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Speaker 8: of abuse that she was attempting to accuse him off.
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Speaker 1: Oh there you go, dueling with training orders. But the
33:10
Speaker 1: thing here is she's claiming he's stalking her.
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Speaker 2: Other reports are he was trying to just get back
33:16
Speaker 2: in the apartment where they both lived. Well there's more. Uh,
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Speaker 2: you know this should be assigned to her defense attorney.
33:24
Speaker 2: Don't let her on the stand. Take a listen to
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Speaker 2: this more body cam footage.
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Speaker 1: I see in my apartment all day.
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Speaker 8: I didn't take my dog's house for like eight hours because.
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Speaker 11: I was afraid that when I came down here. Do
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Speaker 11: you know I didn't do I want the dogs?
33:40
Speaker 1: You wouldn't you just want to get Do you have
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Speaker 1: any property in your apartment?
33:46
Speaker 15: House?
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Speaker 1: Kiss so much to his respect. I just I just
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Speaker 1: feel like I'm not being heard.
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Speaker 11: So I had a lot of opportunities.
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Speaker 10: And I did not.
33:59
Speaker 11: So when I when he's following around his hols hurt,
34:01
Speaker 11: I said, there is no your time is out.
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Speaker 9: There like that, my dad's there, and I.
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Speaker 15: Said a shelter when I.
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Speaker 11: Was show reverse and I shoved and I said, show
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Speaker 11: me like. I really got angry because I did not.
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Speaker 1: I only did to see my dogs.
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Speaker 2: Okay, So basically she's saying I was afraid I want
34:31
Speaker 2: to take my dogs out, but I couldn't. But it
34:33
Speaker 2: sounds like she actually did and that he got on
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Speaker 2: the elevator. And her complaint is he quote smells like
34:39
Speaker 2: a homeless shelter. Okay, so she stabbed him.
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Speaker 1: There's more. Listen.
34:45
Speaker 2: This is what Charlie Langston was telling us. She wants
34:48
Speaker 2: to get a restraining order against him before he can
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Speaker 2: do it.
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Speaker 1: To her, listener, I'm feeling alright, So what do you
34:58
Speaker 1: what do you?
34:59
Speaker 4: What do you want?
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Speaker 11: I just want to I want to be like I'm
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Speaker 11: trying to be like like anything wrong, and I want him.
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Speaker 1: I want a restraining order against Christianity's So I'm very important.
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Speaker 1: Can I do that? Can I make myself first, because
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Speaker 1: I know him and you would do it.
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Speaker 11: How can I mean myself first?
35:22
Speaker 9: You got to get there first, persons.
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Speaker 1: It's the only way, the only idea. We don't even
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Speaker 1: know how it looks like, you know who it is.
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Speaker 4: How do we know that?
35:32
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, Okay, Charlie Lyson more of the same.
35:37
Speaker 2: But here we hear her stating that she wants to
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Speaker 2: get him before he gets her.
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Speaker 1: What more do you believe is revealed in these tapes?
35:46
Speaker 8: I mean, I think there are so many different recordings
35:51
Speaker 8: that focus on her abusive, erratic behavior, and it just
35:56
Speaker 8: proves that the dynamic in the relationship was large from
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Speaker 8: what we hear her berating and abusing him. As we
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Speaker 8: heard earlier, friends of the couple stated very clearly that
36:08
Speaker 8: they saw Clennie hit Obamselly, they never saw the violence
36:13
Speaker 8: being returned. We also had video footage from inside the
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Speaker 8: elevator of their apartment building months before Abbamselly was stabbed,
36:22
Speaker 8: but showed Clennie beating him, pulling his hair, and all
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Speaker 8: he does is cover away an attempt to defend himself.
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Speaker 2: To Dan Corsentino, joining US Foreign Police Chief Sheriff, US
36:33
Speaker 2: Online Security Advisor private investigator at Dan Corsentino dot Com.
36:37
Speaker 2: Elevator video, it really came to the forefront in the
36:45
Speaker 2: Rice case where you see him and this is a
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Speaker 2: professional football player dragging the victim, a female victim by
36:55
Speaker 2: her hair, out of the elevator. And then of course
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Speaker 2: there was the famous or should I say infamous Beyonce
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Speaker 2: video where you see.
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Speaker 1: Her sister lie into.
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Speaker 2: Beyonce's husband jay Z like there's no tomorrow and I
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Speaker 2: guarantee you.
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Speaker 1: Going out on a limb here.
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Speaker 2: He deserved it because she just stood there like mm
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Speaker 2: hmmm while her sister was beating him up. Elevator footage,
37:25
Speaker 2: nobody can suppress it. It's in a public place, so
37:29
Speaker 2: it's fair game, and the elevator footage in this case
37:33
Speaker 2: is damning for her.
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Speaker 15: Absolutely. In this case, she is demonstrative, she's aggressive, she
37:41
Speaker 15: is violent, and she's attacking. Then what we see, let's
37:46
Speaker 15: compare the size of the two. She appears to be
37:48
Speaker 15: about five foot two. He appears to be at least
37:51
Speaker 15: five to ten, maybe a little bit taller, somewhat buff,
37:55
Speaker 15: but very good shape, and he was on the defensive.
37:59
Speaker 15: In this case. An elevator video is very clear that
38:03
Speaker 15: she is a violent offender that attacked him, and he
38:07
Speaker 15: was trying to protect himself from everything she was attempting
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Speaker 15: to do. Strike him in the head, strike him in
38:15
Speaker 15: the chest, strike him in the arm. Very very definitive.
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Speaker 2: Doctor Charles Heller joining us, a clinical forensic psychologist.
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Speaker 1: Why is it so hard for people to.
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Speaker 2: Believe that a man can be the victim and domestic violence?
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Speaker 16: Well, it goes against the stereotypes basically, but he could
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Speaker 16: not leave her even though she was violent with him, jealous,
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Speaker 16: making up imaginary.
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Speaker 7: Things about him, And that's codependency, that's dual addiction. And
38:46
Speaker 7: what happens is basically, it's so strong, the bond is
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Speaker 7: so strong, and in metaphor metaphoric terms, the pegs in
38:58
Speaker 7: his head matched exis actually the holes in her head.
39:02
Speaker 7: They were bonded so tightly together that they couldn't extricate themselves.
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Speaker 7: He couldn't leave her and she couldn't leave him.
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Speaker 2: You know, the officers really hit the nail on the head.
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Speaker 2: Take a listen to our friends at WPLG are cut
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Speaker 2: thirty four.
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Speaker 5: Also informing her that she's not being clear on what
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Speaker 5: she wants.
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Speaker 1: You want this person to completely disappear.
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Speaker 9: From your life.
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Speaker 8: At the same time, you have n't in your apartment
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Speaker 8: here for two months without ton.
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Speaker 1: Of stuff in here, I know.
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Speaker 5: Clinny goes back to her apartment. Officers then go to
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Speaker 5: the employee who made the original call, telling him she
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Speaker 5: never disclosed that there was violence that particular night.
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Speaker 1: That's that's my one right.
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Speaker 5: But she didn't mention none of that until she says
39:48
Speaker 5: she wants to do something about it, so we can
39:50
Speaker 5: get so we can so we that's where we step
39:52
Speaker 5: in and where it's a criminal activity.
39:54
Speaker 1: But she needs to mention something about that.
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Speaker 8: Okay.
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Speaker 14: Unfortunately we can't do anything.
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Speaker 2: So she calls cops over there, but then doesn't do
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Speaker 2: doesn't go forward with any type of action. Brad Micklin
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Speaker 2: with me, high profile lawyer out of New Jersey.
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Speaker 1: Brad, where do you believe this whole thing will end?
40:12
Speaker 2: And you apparently firmly believe men can be the victims
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Speaker 2: of domestic violence.
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Speaker 9: Men are the victims of domestic violence. Just like doctor
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Speaker 9: Heller said, they are stereotypically afraid to call and report it.
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Speaker 9: I mean, can you imagine if Christian had picked up
40:27
Speaker 9: the phone and said, my little girlfriend Courtney is beating
40:31
Speaker 9: me up, I need a restraining order. He would have
40:33
Speaker 9: been laughed at. But this case from a criminal standpoint,
40:37
Speaker 9: really hinges on whether or not these audios and the
40:40
Speaker 9: video of the elevator get in or not, because they
40:43
Speaker 9: are so prejudicial that there is some chance that they
40:47
Speaker 9: that they roll, that they can't be used against her,
40:49
Speaker 9: and that I think is going to turn in this case.
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Speaker 2: He's tuning up and I expect to hear the full
40:54
Speaker 2: symphony at trial. Charlie Langston, Dailymail dot Com.
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Speaker 8: What's next, Well, now we wait for how to go
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Speaker 8: on trial. She's currently in custody waiting the start of
41:03
Speaker 8: her trial, and it will be very interesting to see
41:07
Speaker 8: whether or not she is put on the stand, because
41:10
Speaker 8: if her behavior that we've heard in these recordings is
41:13
Speaker 8: anything to go by, she's not going to be a
41:17
Speaker 8: solid or reliable witness. She's proven herself to be incredibly erratic,
41:22
Speaker 8: as you said, Nancy, belligerent towards authority figures, and I
41:26
Speaker 8: don't know whether what she's potentially going to say on
41:28
Speaker 8: the stand will help her.
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Speaker 2: And happier times, the two look so full of joy,
41:36
Speaker 2: But prosecutors say Christian's death was the culmination of a
41:40
Speaker 2: tempestuous and combative relationship, and from what we're learning, it's
41:46
Speaker 2: largely due to her Now, Clinty was arrested in Hawaii
41:51
Speaker 2: back in August and is a waiting trial. She planed
41:54
Speaker 2: not guilty to a new charge of interception of wire
41:59
Speaker 2: communications related to the murder. This new charge stems from
42:05
Speaker 2: a bombshell revelation that her parents, Kim and Deborah Clinny,
42:10
Speaker 2: were arrested in connection with the murder. Kim Clinty accused
42:15
Speaker 2: of taking the boyfriend Crypto Trader's computer from the murder
42:20
Speaker 2: scene in Miami after it was missed by investigators. He
42:25
Speaker 2: then allegedly accessed it with a password supplied by his daughter,
42:30
Speaker 2: and according to arrest warrants, detectors recovered text messages where
42:35
Speaker 2: the parents discuss trying to get access to Christian's computer. Now,
42:41
Speaker 2: the dad reportedly hinted the computer over to the defense
42:45
Speaker 2: team after finding nothing on it but a crypto exchange.
42:49
Speaker 2: That's according to TMZ, but he was arrested along with
42:54
Speaker 2: his wife for evidence tampering. The Only Fans Model Court.
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Speaker 2: Clinney has a long history of domestic battery back in Vegas,
43:08
Speaker 2: and police recall to the couple's home in Austin, Texas,
43:12
Speaker 2: on several occasions as well, we wait as just as
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Speaker 2: unfalse goodbye friend,