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Inside Tarik Skubal's return, Javy Báez magic and more · Tiger Territory: A Detroit Tigers Podcast

• 0:08
  Speaker 1: And welcome in to another episode of Tiger Territory for
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  Speaker 1: the Foul Territory Network, Detroit Tigers Podcast. I'm Kieran Stegley.
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  Speaker 1: With me, as always, is a man who really knows
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  Speaker 1: how to express himself. He's Cody Stavenhagen. How we doing?
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  Speaker 2: Hey, there you go, Kieran. I love seeing people at work.
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  Speaker 2: honing in on their craft. I like watching elite pitchers pitch.
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  Speaker 2: I liked the Taylor Swift documentary where she was singing
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  Speaker 2: espresso with Sabrina Carpenter. I thought that was awesome. We
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  Speaker 2: certainly got, I don't know if we got good baseball
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  Speaker 2: this weekend, even though a really good team was in town,
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  Speaker 2: but we got some interesting baseball games to say the least.
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  Speaker 1: Well, look, we're recording this Sunday evening. Obviously, the Tigers
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  Speaker 1: drop a series to the Los Angeles Dodgers, 6-1 on Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: But a couple 2-1 games after that, so, you know, interesting, sure. Competitive, definitely.
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  Speaker 1: You know, even, you know, until the end there on Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: And I think, like, the best way to kind of
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  Speaker 1: process this, Cody, is it was... I just kind of
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  Speaker 1: felt hungover the whole weekend. Like, emotionally hungover. Because, like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the anticipation of Friday and then You know,
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  Speaker 1: it's not just, like, the fans. It's the players talking
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  Speaker 1: about it.
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  Speaker 2: It's A.J.
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  Speaker 1: Talking about it. You got, you know, all these stories
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  Speaker 1: written about Skubal and how he's doing and what's he
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  Speaker 1: feeling and then, you know, what's going to happen and, like,
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  Speaker 1: all these things. And we'll obviously talk about, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Friday's reception and all that stuff here in a second.
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  Speaker 1: But then Saturday, you know, another close competitive game. Like,
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  Speaker 1: on the edge of your seat, Javi gets that ball.
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  Speaker 1: McGonagall's the hero. And then Sunday, it just kind of
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  Speaker 1: felt like, whew. especially there in the eighth inning. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's kind of how I look at it. It was
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  Speaker 1: just like a lot to kind of process and go through.
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  Speaker 1: Having been there, having talked to these people and experienced it,
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  Speaker 1: how would you kind of classify this week in America?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I feel like I've felt hung over
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  Speaker 2: this entire season, which is ironic because I really haven't
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  Speaker 2: been drinking heavily. You've got to keep the energy up
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  Speaker 2: to keep going to these games that have been kind
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  Speaker 2: of draining at times. Um, but the, no, that emotional weight,
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  Speaker 2: that kind of emotional hangover feeling has definitely existed and
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  Speaker 2: probably never more so than this weekend. Just the school
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  Speaker 2: bowl thing, him coming back in town at being so soon.
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  Speaker 2: I think no one quite knowing how to act, although
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  Speaker 2: we'll get to that later. Everyone ended up acting, uh,
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  Speaker 2: very appropriately, but it was, it was just so awkward
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  Speaker 2: and it's kind of another sideshow and And then you
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  Speaker 2: play some games that are just weird. The Tigers walk
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  Speaker 2: nine guys but only give up a couple of runs.
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  Speaker 2: They don't play all that well Saturday, but they get
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  Speaker 2: the win. And then Sunday, it's just like a rainy day.
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  Speaker 2: You get two hits. You look up. You lost two
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  Speaker 2: of three. You've lost 12 of your last 15. There
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  Speaker 2: is kind of a weird, heavy, hungover feeling that has
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  Speaker 2: persisted throughout a lot of this year.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely throughout a lot of this year. And honestly,
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  Speaker 1: like this, as soon as, obviously the trade deadline was
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  Speaker 1: its own animal, right? And then once the trade happens
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  Speaker 1: with Scooble, you immediately look at the schedule and it's like, oh, well,
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  Speaker 1: this could happen. And then we got a pretty good
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  Speaker 1: indication that, okay, he was actually going to pitch at
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  Speaker 1: Comerica Park and that created its own whole other vehicle, basically.
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  Speaker 1: And so now I just feel like Now we can
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  Speaker 1: kind of get to some game stuff a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: at least moving forward here, especially this week, which, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you're still playing critical games. I don't want, you know,
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  Speaker 1: that to go unsaid. Like, you know, you got four
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  Speaker 1: against Cleveland, you know, after being three at Minnesota. We're
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  Speaker 1: going to get to all that stuff. But there are
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  Speaker 1: some things bigger than the box score. And I think
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  Speaker 1: this Tarek Skubal moment on Friday certainly classifies as that.
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  Speaker 1: And again, we had a lot of anticipation for it
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  Speaker 1: and what's going to happen. And I like that you
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  Speaker 1: earlier used the word appropriate because that was the word
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  Speaker 1: that came to mind looking at Skubal, his walk from
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  Speaker 1: the bullpen, the video that the Tigers put out, just
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  Speaker 1: the emotions that Skubal wears on his face. Not one
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  Speaker 1: to really hide his emotions, really ever. and that appeared
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  Speaker 1: genuine to me, and then I thought the crowd reaction
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  Speaker 1: to him was enthusiastic and genuine, and even stuff like
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  Speaker 1: every single hitter down the order that had any sort
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  Speaker 1: of relationship with him, first at bat, little helmet tip,
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  Speaker 1: hat tip, and then we play. So that's what it
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  Speaker 1: felt like to me from afar, being there. Did everything
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  Speaker 1: align with what you thought was, to use the word again, appropriate?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. I was almost proud of the good people
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  Speaker 2: of Detroit because the response to Scooble, especially as he
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  Speaker 2: was coming back in from the bullpen and they played
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  Speaker 2: the tribute video and Scooble was getting emotional, it was
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  Speaker 2: overwhelmingly positive. It was cheers, it was standing O, and
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  Speaker 2: then you saw what certainly appeared to be some very
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  Speaker 2: genuine emotion from Scooble. Again, all the stuff he's been through,
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  Speaker 2: don't act like this place didn't mean something to him.
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  Speaker 2: It's where he kind of grew up and grew into
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  Speaker 2: a man and grew into the pitcher he is now.
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  Speaker 2: There are a lot of memories and that word again,
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  Speaker 2: like weight, a lot of emotional weight that came back
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  Speaker 2: with this. When Scoogle ended up running out onto the mounds,
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  Speaker 2: I do think there were some boos. Some people got
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  Speaker 2: mad at me for like writing that there were boos
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  Speaker 2: that turned to cheers. That's what I heard. I heard
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  Speaker 2: like a few boos and then it was almost like
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  Speaker 2: a response, like cheers. And then some Scoob that, that
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  Speaker 2: kind of blends in with the boos. So even that
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  Speaker 2: was like 80% to 90% positive. And then once the
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  Speaker 2: game started, you know, it was a little awkward at first,
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  Speaker 2: but then Schuble retired 12 in a row, and it
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  Speaker 2: started to feel like business as usual.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, there had to be something funky that
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  Speaker 1: was going to happen. And the whole, you know, after
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  Speaker 1: all this, after all this great anticipation, we're finally going
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  Speaker 1: to see Tarek Schuble throw a pitch as a member
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  Speaker 1: of the Los Angeles Dodgers against the Detroit Tigers. And
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  Speaker 1: he's got a pitch comm issue.
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  Speaker 2: What happened with that? Some said they were pranking him.
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  Speaker 2: Did they, I don't know. I didn't get to the
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  Speaker 2: bottom of that one.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if that was, uh, I don't, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if that was verified, but like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: he did like, but again, use the word appropriate. He
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  Speaker 1: was Tarek Scooble. In fact, he was more Tarek in,
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  Speaker 1: in some ways because he had a season high percentage
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  Speaker 1: wise of changeups thrown. Obviously the Tigers against a lefty
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  Speaker 1: are going to throw a lot of, a lot of
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  Speaker 1: righties in, in the order. And, uh, And another thing
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  Speaker 1: that was just kind of, I guess, noteworthy in my
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  Speaker 1: mind is that the Detroit Sportsnet had a little graphic
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  Speaker 1: at the beginning of the game where they listed everybody
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  Speaker 1: in the order, and it's like seasons, teammates with Tarek Skubal.
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  Speaker 1: And there are a lot of ones on there, Cody.
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  Speaker 1: It was like, you know, it's like Lee and Valencia
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  Speaker 1: and all these guys that don't have.
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  Speaker 1: That many uh battles with with tarik and it's kind
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  Speaker 1: of funny because you talked about it uh on our
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  Speaker 1: last episode where you were like you know who do
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  Speaker 1: we talk to about the tarik school thing it's really
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  Speaker 1: only tork who's you know who's active or whatever that
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  Speaker 1: has seen it uh in it in it mostly in
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  Speaker 1: its entirety and even dingler like he doesn't have that
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  Speaker 1: much It doesn't feel like it, but when you actually
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  Speaker 1: look at it, it actually doesn't have that much attrition
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  Speaker 1: with Tarek Skubal when you really think about it. So
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  Speaker 1: that part was definitely interesting. And then I liked that
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  Speaker 1: the Tigers battled. I'm not going to sit here and
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  Speaker 1: overdo what they did, but I did say it would
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  Speaker 1: be appropriate if Max Clark hit a home run. He
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  Speaker 1: didn't hit a home run, but he had one base short.
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  Speaker 1: He got a triple down the left field nine off
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  Speaker 1: Tarek Skubal and obviously a key spot. So, like, you know, everything,
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  Speaker 1: like I said, everything felt appropriate. And then they, you know,
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  Speaker 1: they just came up a little bit short. But what
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  Speaker 1: was Skubal like on Saturday? Now, you actually, you know,
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  Speaker 1: got to kind of. He got the process. He got
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  Speaker 1: 24 hours of process. What was that part like?
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  Speaker 2: I think he was still processing it. I mean, he
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  Speaker 2: kind of talked about being pretty exhausted when he got
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  Speaker 2: home and just trying to wind down, get his kids
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  Speaker 2: to sleep, and then himself to sleep. Then you wake up,
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  Speaker 2: and you're right back at the ballpark, and there's a
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  Speaker 2: ton of people around him asking him questions again. So
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. One thing I noticed when he was
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  Speaker 2: getting asked questions, he would kind of take a second,
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  Speaker 2: and he would pause before answering. I wonder if someone
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  Speaker 2: told him this to try to maybe limit some of
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  Speaker 2: the honest quotes that he has given in the past.
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  Speaker 2: And as a function of that, I'm not sure he
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  Speaker 2: said anything super noteworthy. Obviously, he was appreciative of his
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  Speaker 2: time in Detroit. He spent time with Chris Fetter. He
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  Speaker 2: spent time with A.J. Hinch on Sunday morning. I think
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  Speaker 2: he gave some sort of golf gifts to some of
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  Speaker 2: the guys in the clubhouse, so As far as this
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  Speaker 2: espresso machine thing, man, can we just... I jokingly mentioned
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  Speaker 2: that because Torkelson had jokingly mentioned that. I don't think
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  Speaker 2: anyone's feelings are actually that upset. And Kieran, you mentioned
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  Speaker 2: all the guys who have barely played with them. They're
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  Speaker 2: all drinking C4s, man. They're too young to be drinking
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  Speaker 2: this espresso anyway. Should he have left the espresso machine?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe.
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  Speaker 2: I can't believe how far some people took that. I assume...
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  Speaker 2: the fine listeners to our pod aren't the ones who
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  Speaker 2: were doing that it's like it's not that big of
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  Speaker 2: a deal.
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  Speaker 1: So if you guys are watching on YouTube about 90
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  Speaker 1: seconds ago I rolled my eyes when you were talking
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  Speaker 1: about Skubal being genuine I just want to clarify that's
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  Speaker 1: I'm rolling my eyes to the reaction that people that
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  Speaker 1: think he's not genuine I believe Tarek Skubal to be genuine.
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  Speaker 1: So anytime he says something or has some sort of
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  Speaker 1: human moment, he gets critiqued in a way that I
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  Speaker 1: think is unfair. So that would be the eye roll.
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  Speaker 1: And then very much an eye roll, Cody, about how
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  Speaker 1: much legs this espresso machine story, I guess, got. Because
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  Speaker 1: I have to imagine, and this is just a complete guess. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: I have no sources on this or anything. But I
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  Speaker 1: have to imagine it was a pretty simple Somebody said, hey,
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  Speaker 1: do you want it? And if it's yours, you probably
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  Speaker 1: are like, oh, yeah, sure. And you don't really give
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  Speaker 1: it that much thought. You know what I mean? And then,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Skubal said, like, you know, the wife, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Jessica wanted it, you know, all that stuff. Whatever. Who cares?
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  Speaker 1: It's not that big a deal. Like, I would not
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  Speaker 1: think it's a big deal if he left it because
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't come here and be like, you know, he
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  Speaker 1: left the expressive machine. Does that mean he's going to
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  Speaker 1: be back here?
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  Speaker 2: What does that say? We wouldn't be.
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  Speaker 1: Talking about it if it were that sad. So either way,
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  Speaker 1: it's a nothing burger, but I just can't believe this
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  Speaker 1: got the lay. Maybe I shouldn't say I can't believe it.
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  Speaker 2: Unfortunately, I'm not surprised, but I'm done talking about it.
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  Speaker 2: I can't believe we're still talking about this stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Find more important things to worry about. That would be
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  Speaker 1: my advice to people that are given that legs. Speaking
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  Speaker 1: of things to worry about, we are going to take
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  Speaker 1: All right, coming back here, still looking at some notes
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  Speaker 1: that I wrote down on Friday. You know, like, you know, Glaber.
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  Speaker 1: I almost think it might have been a bad thing
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  Speaker 1: that Glaber got a double there to begin the game
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  Speaker 1: because that forced Scooble to lock back in maybe a
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  Speaker 1: little bit quicker. Might have been able to lull him
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  Speaker 1: a little bit more. And also, I think he threw
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  Speaker 1: the slider a lot more than he normally does in
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  Speaker 1: that game. So, you know, just little tinkerings. I haven't
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  Speaker 1: watched him pitch by pitch in a bit, so I
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  Speaker 1: thought those were interesting. All right. Mentioned him earlier as
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  Speaker 1: the voice of concern regarding the Espresso machine. Are these
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  Speaker 1: two things connected? We're about to try to figure that out.
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  Speaker 1: But Spencer Torkelson, the man that we have to try
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  Speaker 1: to figure out new ways to talk about consistently, right
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  Speaker 1: after we give him the praise about this new approach
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  Speaker 1: and how it's all good, he goes into one hell
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  Speaker 1: of a slump. Yeah. Since August 15th. So, again, we're
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  Speaker 1: recording this August 30th. Since August 15th, he has three
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  Speaker 1: hits and 19 strikeouts. It's not good. It's not good.
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  Speaker 1: And he's been pinch hit for a little bit more
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  Speaker 1: of late. And on Sunday against the righty, Colt Keith
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  Speaker 1: gets to start at first base. And we never even
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  Speaker 1: see Tork. You know, he looked like a hitting coach
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  Speaker 1: in the dugout wearing, you know, wearing the dry fit shirt. So,
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  Speaker 1: Do we officially call this a soft benching? Because it
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  Speaker 1: seems like, at the very least, there's not Penn being
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  Speaker 1: used with Spencer Torkelson's spot on the field and in
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  Speaker 1: the lineup.
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  Speaker 2: I think the pinch hit thing is certainly telling. It
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  Speaker 2: seems like the patience with him, especially against right-handed pitching,
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  Speaker 2: is growing thin. Tork only has a 695 OPS against
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  Speaker 2: righties this year. In the month of August, his WRC
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  Speaker 2: plus against righties is 65. So he just hasn't been
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  Speaker 2: that effective against right-handers really all year. And I think
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  Speaker 2: in some close games, when the Tigers have to have
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  Speaker 2: every game, you're seeing A.J. Hinch a couple times recently
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  Speaker 2: willing to go to the bench. As for what happened Sunday,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I was a bad journalist and didn't
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  Speaker 2: ask AJ beforehand why Tork wasn't in the lineup. Given
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  Speaker 2: that he wasn't even wearing the jersey, it might have
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  Speaker 2: just been a scheduled thing. I don't know. I don't
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  Speaker 2: want to speak too much on that. And it's Tork,
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  Speaker 2: so I don't know that I want to speak too
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  Speaker 2: much on it in general. If we say maybe this
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  Speaker 2: is a soft benching, he's going to hit six home
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  Speaker 2: runs next week. The oddity continues of what to do
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  Speaker 2: with Torkelson, what to do with Torkelson going forward. If
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  Speaker 2: his replacement is Colt Keith, we saw Colt Keith go
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  Speaker 2: backward on a fly ball at first base, and I
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  Speaker 2: think maybe McKinstry called that.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't pretty, whatever happened there. And Keith has been
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  Speaker 2: pretty good at the plate. I think better than people
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  Speaker 2: are giving him credit for, but it's not like he's
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  Speaker 2: been stellar. You do have Bersanio waiting in the wings.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I think that's all going to sort
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  Speaker 2: itself out. And eventually that situation is probably going to
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  Speaker 2: have to come to a head. But this is Twerk, man.
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  Speaker 2: I would be careful before we declare that it's coming
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  Speaker 2: to a head right now. Watch him go out and
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  Speaker 2: have a great week. That's just been the Twerkleson experience.
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  Speaker 1: Probably the least successful thing to do when assessing Twerk
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  Speaker 1: over the entirety of his professional career. has been to
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  Speaker 1: make proclamations and I'm including the fact that he's like
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  Speaker 1: this great prospect who like is, you know, a surefire
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  Speaker 1: thing or whatever. And then once he gets to the majors,
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  Speaker 1: he sucks, get rid of them. And, and then it's like, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: he's turning it around. And like, just, just, if you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna make proclamations, make them with a lowercase P that
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  Speaker 1: would just be my advice when it, when it, when
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  Speaker 1: it comes, when it comes to dispenser Torkelson. And I
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  Speaker 1: will say this, like, Baseball, man, you can find a
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  Speaker 1: number for everything. It's one of the reasons I love
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  Speaker 1: it and one of the reasons that I scratch my
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  Speaker 1: head a lot. And I'll just read this for you here, Cody,
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  Speaker 1: because I just think it's funny. So remember, since August 15th,
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  Speaker 1: it's August 30th now, since August 15th, so we're talking
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  Speaker 1: half the month, he has three hits and 19 strikeouts.
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  Speaker 1: So keep that in mind. August, Cody, for the month
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: of August, Spencer Torkelson is hitting. 241, which is.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: By far his best month of the season. Like, there's
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: 228 in April, 200 in May, 225 in June, 209
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: in July. Month of August, 241. And he might have
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: gotten benched, and half the month he basically didn't hit.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: He basically didn't have a bat in his hands for
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: half the month.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: That blows my mind as actually not surprising at all.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: That's very fitting, yeah.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: All right, let's get to... let's get the Saturday a
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: little bit because look like the, obviously a baseball season
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: is made of moments and, and Saturday was one of
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: those moments that will, um, it will be replayed for
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: a handful of years. People are going to be like, Hey,
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: remember that game against the Dodgers the day after school bowl. And, uh,
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: and Javi goes and tracks down that ball and Kevin McGonigal,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: you know, they load the bases and Kevin McGonigal, uh,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: you know, gets a walk off. You have that, but
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: you know, could be one of those images that lives
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: for a long time in Detroit of, Max Clark and
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Kevin McGonigal, you know, jumping up and doing the shoulder bump.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: Great burglars in those guys, by the way. Don't underrate
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: the athlete tool on them. So let's go with the
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: hobby play first. Because you mentioned the Colt Keith, Zach
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: McKinstry foul ball that falls between them. Can't say it
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: was the greatest round in the world for Colt Keith there.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: But it just felt like, God, he just gave away
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: an out. Kenley Jansen's on the mound. this does not
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: feel like a good formula. And then bam, a ball
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: to like the deepest part of the park. And you're
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: just like, there's no way. And then Javi Baez runs
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: that sucker down. They said that ball had a 30%
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: catch probability. I can't believe it's that high. Like I
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: got to figure out the formula on this one because
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: I had 30%. You tell me three out of 10,
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: that feels like that feels high to me. But anyway,
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: I want to look at baseball savant for Javi Baez.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: 43 percentile in sprint speed, 37 percentile in range. Throw
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: those numbers out the book on that play, Cody. That's
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: all I got to say, because he looked fast and
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: he looked rangy.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Is his sprint speed really falling that low? What was
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: it last year? Is it just because he doesn't always
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: run his hardest?
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: I feel like that's probably it.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm going to go with. He covered a
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: lot of ground. It was a tremendous play, tremendous instincts
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: to get there. Matt Clark was shaded over toward right field.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: um i think we're taking for granted how he buys
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: is playing left field like i guess in some ways
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: that's maybe.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Easier than center but also.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: Like what like this guy is just doing something he's
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: never done before in his life and it's like hey
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: go out there and he's just an athlete and he's
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: just pretty damn good at it um I mean, imagine
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: if in 2022 you said, hey, in four years, Javi's
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: going to be playing left field. It's kind of like, what?
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Wouldn't even be an indictment on whether his career had
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: gone good or bad and just be like, what is
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: the circumstance that leads to that? It was an odd circumstance,
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: and here we are. Yeah, Javi's not the player he
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: was signed to be, but he still does some really
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: cool things. Even the little things. They were talking about it.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Rather than saying ball or I got it, they're making
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: hissing sounds to communicate with each other in the outfield
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: because they don't want it to be confused for fans
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: who could be yelling I got it. And I think
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Max Clark, someone might have got on to him for
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: revealing that to the public. So any visiting fans listening
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: to this, don't go making hissing sounds when the Tigers
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: are in the outfield. Otherwise, we'll never have anything interesting
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: to talk about anymore. They don't want guys sharing cool
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: fun facts like that with us um anyway that's my
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: own diatribe really great moment then he comes back you
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: know literally in hobby fashion kind of complains or jokes
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: about having to run in from the deepest part of
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: the park get ready get up to bat he was
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: worried about being late and getting an automatic strike once
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: you do bam double pretty cool.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah again like i one of those guys that like
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: you just i don't know how you could hate him
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: man Like, it's just– there's so much there where it's like, God,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: this SOB. You know what I mean? In a good way. Like,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: it's like, God, Javi. I could– I just can't help
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: but smile and laugh. It's like, of course. You know,
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: like the of course thing with Javi. And I went
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: and looked this up while you were talking. The past
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: two years, Javi has been in the 50, 55 percentile
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: in sprint speed. So down a little bit, but obviously
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: he's capable there. And then, you know– I don't think there's,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think there's a decent chance that, like,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: if Javi, like, let's say Riley Green was in left field,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: that he would have no shot at getting to that ball.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Max Clark, I almost am concerned about, like, what he
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: would have done to go after that ball because he
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: was moving. Like, he was moving, too. Like, you don't
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: get credit for it because, you know, obviously he didn't
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: make the play or whatever. But, like, was he going to, like,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: dive headfirst into that wall? I don't know if I could.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: He would have been willing to, yeah.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I could rule that one out,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: so give him credit there, because he clearly was on
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: his horse as well. And again, yeah, Javi, of course,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: gets the double lead off, and then you end up
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: having some good at-bats, you know, connecting at-bats, all those
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: cliché things.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: Max's speed was incredible to watch this weekend, whether it
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: was the triple, whether it was the bunt earlier that
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: day that he ran into, I guess it was scored
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: in error, but forced an error basically through his speed. Um,
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: you see the version of Max Clark that can be
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: a real agent of chaos. As I've mentioned before, the tigers,
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: I think are trying to push him to maybe start
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: stealing some more bags. We'll see if that holds true
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: or not. Tigers are dead last in the league and
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: stolen bases, which is again, part of their philosophy. And
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: there's still a positive base running team overall. So I
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: guess it works out, but when you have a player
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: with the skillset of Max Clark, I think you want
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: that dude to be stealing some bases. Um, He can
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: be a lot of fun, man, and we're starting to
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: see more and more of it.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: The bag's deep because those weren't– I mean, those were
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: clean bunts too. It's not just like, all right, whatever.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Right, not easy. He said he bunted once in AAA
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: and it was right back to the pitcher.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly. We forget.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: These guys aren't asked to bunt in the minor leagues,
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: especially if you're a big prospect. That's not easy. Hey,
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: go bunt. I don't remember what the guy in the
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: bump was throwing, probably 98, 99, you know. Yeah.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: No, for sure. So give him a lot of credit there.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: And again, give McGonagall a lot of credit for a
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: good base knock. Unfortunately, it's just a base knock.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: I don't like that rule, man. Hurting his OPS, taking
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: an RBI away from him. This guy's in the rookie
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: of the year race. I think he's a lock to win,
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: although Parker Messick has really been getting hot. So there's
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: still some incentive for Kevin to finish strong, although he
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: is obviously having a tremendous rookie year. He's played a lot,
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: and that was talked about some. It's kind of like, well,
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: he's just got to push through the wall. I think
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: he's pretty beat up. His finger, he had a nasty
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: gash on it. Cedric Mullen's helmet hit him on a
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: play at second base. Those are things you don't even
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: really see on TV. He's feeling it. He had been in, what,
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: an 0-for-18 skid before that walk-off and had some balls
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: that were hit hard, including the ball that would have
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: been a grand slam in 22 parks the night before,
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: just not in America. but the thing about McGonigal, man,
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: he just never seems to slump for long. Like when
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: he comes up in the third or fourth at bat
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: and I look and it's like, Oh, he's over two.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: And like, he's probably going to do something. This kid
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: just doesn't go very long without hitting the ball hard.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: And it's, it's pretty amazing and astonishing the level of
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: consistency with which he, he delivers in that way.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt. A joy to watch on a daily basis. Uh,
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: All right, let's go to Sunday's game because I did
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: want to talk about this a little bit. I would
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: consider myself one of the people that's been pretty hard
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: on Frambois Valdez, and so I want to give him
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: credit here because I do believe he deserves credit for
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: what he did on Sunday. And Dan said this on TV,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: and I 100% believe it. I think I've said it
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: before in this podcast. When that curveball is going, you
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: kind of figure, like early, you kind of figure that
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: it's going to be a decent day for Fromber. And
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: it was. Like, you know, six innings, three earned runs,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: 5Ks a walk, finally got some whiffs. I'll say this.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: I went and looked this up after he was done.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: He gave up six hits, right? Three of them were
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: not even close to strikes. including the home run. And
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: then one of them, one of Freddie's hits, was, like,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: literally right on the line. So, you know, whatever. A strike,
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: but obviously not, like, in the zone. You know what
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: I mean? So, like, kind of a little bit of,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: I don't want to say it's bad luck. Those guys
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: earned those hits. But a not very mistake-ridden outing from Fromber. And, like,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: in a situation where, look, you're the ace now, and
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: you got a, you got a chance to put your
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: team in a position to win a series, all these
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: kind of extra things. I do believe he delivered, and
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: that was probably one of the more encouraging outings I've
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: seen from Frambois this year.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that was the best his pure stuff
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: has looked in in quite some time. It was interesting
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: to go back. He does have a nine-strikeout game this year,
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: a pair of eight-strikeout games. He's had days where his
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: stuff was going, although they've been somewhat hit or missed.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: even just see that reminder that oh yeah there is
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: a a borderline elite level pitcher still in here i
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: think is encouraging the task is to continue to to
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: get that out of him a little more regularly a
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: little more consistently that helped when he got into the
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: game i think maybe you've said it before you kind
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: of know in that first inning what kind of fromber
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: day it's going to be for the most part and
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: he had a clean first inning and then he just
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: really started rolling um I'm not trying to paint like
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: revisionist history here. Like Farmer's getting paid a lot of
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: money and he has not been what the Tigers signed
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: him to be. It's been disappointing, but he's gone more
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: than six, six or more innings, I believe 16 times,
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: which is more than any left-handed starter in the American league.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: So even this kind of disappointing version of Frambois Valdez is, uh,
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: with the exception of a few blowout, um, blow up
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: games has really posted and really eight innings. And especially
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: in today's game, especially with this Detroit Tigers bullpen, there's
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: a little bit of like hidden value in that. Uh,
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: obviously you just want to see this really good version
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: of him a little more in it.
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: You're right.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: It's unfortunate. There ends up being a three spot on
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: them because he kind of pitched better than even the
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: box score indicates.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And I would even say, uh, the, the work,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: that obviously he's put in in between these stars to
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: get more in tune, be more aggressive in the first
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: couple of innings. The fact that you're seeing results of that,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: and it's not just like speak, I think it's something
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: that he deserves. And obviously the staff and everybody, you know,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: Dingler and, you know, whoever's calling pitches, like everybody deserves
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: credit for that. But like there were, there were times
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: where he wasn't like acting like somebody of his stature.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: And I, I do believe that he has over the
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: course of the past, you know, whatever, two, three weeks. Uh, and, and,
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: and it's unfortunate. I wish that we could almost like
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: lead with him today because I thought he, he was
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: deserving of that. It just obviously didn't come from an
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: offensive standpoint, a little bit of bad luck, uh, you know,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: ground balls, like just hit, find the right hole. You
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: know what I mean? That that's going to happen. Uh,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: but like, I thought, Mentally, physically, he was locked in today,
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: and I wish they could have gotten him a win
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: because I think that would have done a lot of
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: good for like, the perception of Frambois right now. All right, well,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: let's spend a couple minutes. Speaking of lefties, I do
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: want to spend a couple minutes on Andrew Sears here, Cody, because, like,
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know, any time that you can lower your
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: ERA by, like, five, I think it's worth talking about.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: He gave up two hits in almost three innings of
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: work on Saturday. This is a guy that's not a
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: highly pedigreed prospect, obviously, but obviously also somebody that the
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Tigers feel like there could be a role here, kind
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: of see what happens. A lot didn't go right in
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: his debut, but hell, the first batter... On Saturday, he
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: gets a poke double down the left field line. It's like,
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: oh man, is this going to be another? No. He
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: focused in and he was fearless against this Dodgers order.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure the Tigers really know exactly what they're
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: going to try to do with him the rest of
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: the season or even beyond. But I did think that
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, you're talking about bullpen concerns and this, that,
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: the other thing. Sears passed a big test for me.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Your second outing, you're going up against the Dodgers.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: I told you guys he was going to have better outings.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: I wasn't sure about that for a minute. I was like, oh,
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: they're going to ask him. They had pushed Summers again
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: to the point of a failure the day before. They
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: pulled him through 19 pitches the day before and pitching
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: in that game. I was like, oh, so he's going
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: to be asked to go basically a full time through
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: this Dodgers order. I don't think I like that. And
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: then he did it. The compete button was on. I
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: think it's always on with that kid. But the compete
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: button was on. He strikes out Otani. He did the job.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: So that's good. It sounds like he's going to pitch
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: in bulk during this upcoming doubleheader against the Guardians. And
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: we will see what his next outing holds.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: All right. Let's get to some news that we don't
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: have a lot of information about because it was reported
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: just prior to us recording, but it looks like the
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: Tigers are going to call up yet another member of
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: the Toledo Mudhens, a new member of the Toledo Mudhens,
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: John Peck. John Peck will be making his Major League
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: debut here pretty soon. This is according to Emily Walden,
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: who obviously has great sources in the Tigers' farm system,
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: so we're going to take that as fact and My
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: first reaction is, okay, this seems a little bit, I mean,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: we just got done talking. Look, all respect to Peck.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: This has nothing to do with him individually. That's why
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: I get that, you know, make that clear. But it's like,
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: we just got done talking. I literally just said into
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: this microphone, into this camera the other day, Cody, Max
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Anderson would be like, hey, I'm right here. I'm right here, guys.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: And now he's more like Fresh Prince at the end,
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: looking around at the empty living room. You know what
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: I mean? Like, is like all my boys are up
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: in detroit right now like what do i gotta do
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: you know what i mean but anyway well i'm sure
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: there'll be more context uh by the time you guys
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: listen to this or monday and beyond but uh john
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: pick i didn't necessarily think we would see him this
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: year but looks like.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: We are yeah i wouldn't have ruled out seeing him
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: this year but i'm very surprised we're seeing him after
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: five games in triple a and fresh off the injured
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: list as well um Surprises me. I think Peck's had
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: a really nice year. Obviously very good with the glove
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: and can hold his own in the batter's box too.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: Tigers think very highly of him. I know some scouts
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: that really like him. I think the question is, can
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: he break out of the Zach Short, Ryan Kreidler mold
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: where it's glove first, but there's some potential in the bat.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: Can it actually be like, no, the bat can play? Again,
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: really good year. It was really impressive in spring training. 5.5%
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: walk rate in double A. That concerns me, because if
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: you're only walking 5.5% of the time in AA, I
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: don't know how often you're going to walk in the
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: big leagues. And then, yeah, look, congrats to Peck. Again,
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: assuming this is accurate information, which I expect it is.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: Five games in AAA? It seems to me like they're
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: rushing him. I think this would probably explain why I
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: saw George Lombard pull Corey Jolks into the manager's office
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: after the game. But unless there is some other roster
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: wrinkle here that we don't know about yet, I'm probably
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: more confused than the timing of when they called up
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: Max Clark, which obviously, hey, Clark was ready, right? But
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: that felt weird. There have been several little roster things
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: that have just felt weird. This one, especially, you're calling
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: up another right-handed infielder before Max Anderson. I'm not sure
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: how he's going to play. Maybe the defense makes it
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: a little more. You can be a little more creative
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: with him.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: So that's all I have to say about this. I'll
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: be fascinated to see what A.J. Hinch has to say
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: on Monday. On that note, A.J. did say Sunday. Sounds
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: like Riley Green won't be activated until Tuesday at the earliest.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: So rosters expand, I believe, Tuesday. So one of those
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: roster moves might be as simple as bringing Riley Green
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: back into the fold.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: And again, just to reiterate, assuming this is accurate. Congrats. Congrats, John.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: This is awesome. Lifetime achievement. All that stuff. We can't,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: we'll talk about your debut and, you know, all these things, uh,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: just from a pure, you know, assessing the roster standpoint,
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: this caught us off guard. So just trying to figure
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: out like what the, what the reasoning is, what the
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: play is, has nothing to do with the guy individually. Uh, so, uh, again,
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: just want to make that clear. Don't want anybody to
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: clip us and be like, I can't believe there's guys
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: are talking bad about John Peck and his mate, you know,
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: getting called up to the big. So, All right. There's
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: obviously other stuff we could get into. But yeah, I mean,
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: it was an emotionally draining weekend. It was it was
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: an interesting and like intriguing, fun in a lot of
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: ways weekend as well. But the week in general, you
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: got we knew it was going to be hell when
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: you got the Rays and you got the Dodgers on
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: a homestand. Now you've got to go on the road,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: and if there's any sort of life to your playoff hopes,
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: just life for the hopes, you've got to do something
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: good this week against Minnesota and against Cleveland, three and
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: four games, respectively. So looking forward to seeing how they
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: respond to everything. Maybe they can just move on. Now
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: the school thing is behind them, but we shall see.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: Anything else, Cody, before we get out of here?
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: That covers it. Really interested to watch Jackson Jobe. He's
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: talked a lot about the tweaks, changes he made to
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: his arsenal. If he goes out there and shoves, we'll
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: break all that down a little bit more on our
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: next episode.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: All right. It'd be nice for things to align for
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: us a little bit, Cody. I feel like there's been
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: too much chaos that we've got to react to. Can
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: things align a little bit? You guys can follow us
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: on X, where we know it's Twitter, at Cody Stabenhagen.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: I'm at Kieran underscore Steckley. Pod page at Tiger Territory.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: Underscore YouTube, Apple, Spotify. You guys know what to do.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: We appreciate all of you. So for Cody Stabenhagen, I'm
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: Ken Steckley. Everybody have a great day.