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- 0:00Hey, we're doing hulkhot Shavuot resh lahmed khat.
- 0:05We are on sif Zain Amar konam ishti in the Hanitli.
- 0:11So person once tells his tells his wife I'm making a an isser
- 0:17Hana to get benefit from me. Now there's a tonight.
- 0:21What's The Tonight if if I'm going to eat if I'm going to eat
- 0:27today right, if he eats today and then his wife's going to be
- 0:31ussered from getting benefits from him.
- 0:34OK, So what happens the alcohol that day Nevilot utre fought so
- 0:40you ate Isser Nevila isser trefa.
- 0:42So what happens? So again, the the neder was just
- 0:47between him and his wife getting benefits.
- 0:49So that's ricious. That could be called the Tanai
- 0:53was the isser de Araisa, but but that's doesn't matter that the
- 0:58shivu itself, it's not mush against mushbag al menarasini.
- 1:04So it certainly could be Khal, but he and he eats in Nevello
- 1:08Traifa. So Ishto becomes Asura the
- 1:11khashif shapir Akhila, because even though it's an isser
- 1:14Akhila, it's it's still considered food.
- 1:19It's right. You can go to a non kosher
- 1:21restaurant and get some of perhaps the most delicious food
- 1:25and it's nevella or traifa because it is Rai la akila or if
- 1:31he ate OK, whatever, whatever, the tanai is OK, correct Amar.
- 1:40Now he says like this, a shavua shaohal hayom.
- 1:43He makes a shavua that he's going to eat today via akal afar
- 1:47and then he eats a scoop of dust.
- 1:51So is that khal or not? So yatzayade shavua so well, the
- 1:56shuwa itself was Hal right that he's going to eat today.
- 1:59He has to eat and if he eats dust, it counts.
- 2:03He was yose, his shuwa and he's not high of malchus and he's
- 2:08good to go daha akshive akhila, because for him he didn't want
- 2:14to be over the esser of a shuwa. So by him eating the dust, he
- 2:19did it in order to be makayam, and he is.
- 2:22But we have this sometimes I might be on a Darabana level,
- 2:27Darisa level for other areas in halacha, but for here it's going
- 2:31to help your Darisa Shiva because you considered it to be
- 2:36food. OK, so that works.
- 2:39Tet Shiva, Shiloh person makes a Shiva that he is not going to
- 2:44eat, right? He's not going to eat anything.
- 2:47The alcohol afar. And then he takes a scoop of
- 2:49dirt from the ground and he eats it.
- 2:53Patur shaina bachal ahila. So he's putter because it's not
- 2:57considered ahila. We assume that's not what he had
- 3:01in mind. And that wasn't part of the
- 3:04shavua. And it's mutter.
- 3:06Well, not mutter. It's putter.
- 3:10It's putter. Is it usser?
- 3:13Let's keep reading. So if you just said I'm not
- 3:16gonna, I'm not gonna eat Stam. So then that's what we said, the
- 3:21imperish shaloha. But if you afar, but if you say
- 3:26specifically I'm making sure that I'm not going to eat dust.
- 3:29What you said I'm not going to eat dust.
- 3:30That's dust is or dirt is your shivua.
- 3:34So then the aklo haya, the kazait.
- 3:37So then you would be haya certainly.
- 3:39How much? Again, it's a kazait now it
- 3:43happens to be a Suffolk. So let me just keep reading
- 3:46about pacos mukazais. This is the Suffolk.
- 3:48If you eat less than a kazait, are you asur midoraisa on a
- 3:55mashu and less than a kazais? Or is it only usur on a full
- 3:59kazais to be Kaya malchus? So we say pater avalasar really
- 4:03for two reasons. It's pater avalasar #1.
- 4:08If it's just khatsi shir, that's possible.
- 4:12The other thing is it happens to be a real sphake of the Dina
- 4:17when the I think it's in the in the Gemara.
- 4:20When we in this particular case, normally when it comes to food,
- 4:25a person stomped us is a kazais. But when it comes to something
- 4:29that is clearly not edible for anybody and you make a shihuah
- 4:33on it, there's a Suffolk. Maybe on something that's
- 4:35edible, fine, it's a keziah. But on something that's not
- 4:39edible, it would be even a mashihu because nobody even
- 4:41wants to eat it really. A keziah doesn't help you to be
- 4:45considered as a useful eating. So we don't know what he has in
- 4:48mind and therefore either way, it's clearly user.
- 4:52The Suffolk really is on if you're high of malchus or not.
- 4:55So we don't get so we don't get balchus on the Suffolk, but
- 4:59certainly it's vaday asur. OK, now vahain shivua shaloh al
- 5:04hatsan. A person makes a shivu, he's not
- 5:06going to eat any Hartzan. I don't know dregs from the the
- 5:10wine from the grapes. So then also partzer, partzer of
- 5:16al asur alpacos Mikazai. So if you eat a full kazais,
- 5:20it'd be a full over a full shivua.
- 5:22If it's unless than a kazais, it's the same Suffolk and it's
- 5:28pater of al asar. Fine, let's go on to let's do
- 5:39yud now yud. We're going to review what we
- 5:42learned ISR previously about a Shivua cola.
- 5:46Then if you make a shivua on top of an S on the top of a shivua
- 5:50and it's exactly the same shivua twice, we say the second one's
- 5:54not khal because now it's like mushbhag omed maharsina, you
- 5:57have to keep the shivua and or if you do it against the
- 6:00mitzvah, against the Tara, so then also it's not going to be
- 6:03khal. So here shivua shalu O khalki
- 6:06karzo, the person says a shivu that he's not going to eat this
- 6:10loaf of bread. So then kayev I'll call kazais
- 6:15with kazais Shioka me menu. A person is kayev on each kazais
- 6:20is when a person says this loaf of bread, the slam kavana is any
- 6:26kazait or any and every kazait in this loaf of bread is
- 6:31included and each kazait is an achilla.
- 6:35The answer I feel about koshu and it's also right we didn't
- 6:40Hatsi Shira, we learned even Amasha who's going to be aser.
- 6:43It's just you're not going to get the the full punishment.
- 6:46Shivua Shiloh okalna, a person makes a shivua that he is not
- 6:50going to eat it. Those are the words he uses
- 6:53Shivua shilo kalna. And it's similar to saying in
- 6:56English, a person makes an oath that he is not going to eat the
- 7:00entire loaf. So then Enochayev achiyochal
- 7:06kula, because you use the wording of Okhalna, or perhaps
- 7:11the entire oath. What a entire loaf of bread or
- 7:14whatever the item is, it's the shahua is understood to be going
- 7:19on the entire amount. And if you just eat 1 kazai, eat
- 7:22of it. Well, that's not what the shahua
- 7:24was. The shahua was the entire loaf,
- 7:27so of all us are a few, but like always we say it's usser to eat
- 7:33even less than the full shear. OK, no, not well for Kikarzo,
- 7:40yes, for Okhalna or when you say the entire loaf, no, because you
- 7:45weren't Makai and Yeshua when we call Malcolm, but he just points
- 7:52out, let's say you eat the entire loaf except the last
- 7:55couple few crumbs or the last little little tiny piece that's
- 7:59less than a keziat you didn't eat.
- 8:01We round up in this case and it's as if you ate the whole
- 8:05thing. That last a keziat isn't really
- 8:07considered Akhila. And if that's all that's left,
- 8:09we say you, you basically your makayam, your shivua, right?
- 8:14If you, if it was us or for you or you needed to, whatever it is
- 8:17fine. Hilka IM Amar.
- 8:20Shivua. Shilohala.
- 8:21Person makes a shivua, He's not going to eat it.
- 8:25All right, So that's the first shivua.
- 8:27He's not going to eat it. Referring to the entire loaf.
- 8:31Yeah. So you're only Hayev once you
- 8:33eat the entire loaf, right? The Akharkov.
- 8:37Now he's making a second shivua. Shivua Shiloh halki karzo.
- 8:42And then he adds the words. I'm not eating this loaf.
- 8:46He didn't use the words the entire loaf.
- 8:48He said this loaf. So then is the second shivu akal
- 8:54are you? Because right, regarding the
- 8:55shivu akolo, you could only have a shivu on top of a shivu and
- 9:00the second one be khal if you're adding something.
- 9:04So then Gama shini akala, in this case you are kayev even it
- 9:08on the second shivua. Why shimit khila loni shibala
- 9:15Alkula since you started out with Okalna or the entire loaf,
- 9:20the you're only high of if you eat the entire loaf about
- 9:23Niksata yako loko, but really a little bit you could have eaten
- 9:30again, not you didn't Mushbaum because of hats.
- 9:33Hatsishir. No, but that's just a
- 9:35technicality. But for the Hokos of Shavua,
- 9:39it's you're not Mushbaum and Harasina, Vyakharka, Nishva
- 9:43alksata. And then the second Shiva in our
- 9:47case was on each Keziah just a little bit.
- 9:49So you're adding a new dimension that makes it easier for you to
- 9:53be higher. So it is hot Lukashaoka
- 9:56alkazayat mimenu over aleshniya. So when you eat the first Kazait
- 9:59or every Kazait until the end, you're Hayev on the second Shiva
- 10:04Lukasha gomer la okhla MIT kayev barishona.
- 10:08And then when you eat the last kazai, sorry, and when you
- 10:13finish it, then that's when you're hayeb on the 1st shivua.
- 10:17Amar shivua Shiloh khalki karzo. A person makes 1 shivua, he is
- 10:21not going to eat this loaf. And then he says the shivua is a
- 10:26shivua Shiloh ohalna, the second one.
- 10:28Now he's not going to eat the entire loaf.
- 10:30So Aina Shuniakala, in this case, the second shivua cannot
- 10:33be home because you can never reach eating the entire loaf.
- 10:44If you're not going to be already violating the first
- 10:47loaf, the first shivua by eating every kazait and you can't have
- 10:51a shivua on top of a shivua, you're never going to have a
- 10:54Shiva Khal. If you're really by by being by
- 10:59doing the second Shivua, you're violating the first Shivua every
- 11:02kazait to add up to the second Shiva you're you're higher for.
- 11:07So it can never the second one can't be hull because OK, you'd
- 11:11bet again, you can add more days, you can add more fruit.
- 11:16You can add there's additive things because you're not
- 11:20necessarily being higher than the first Shiva, but on the
- 11:23second. But when you make the second
- 11:25Shiva and there's no way to get there without violating the
- 11:28first Shiva or the the mitzvah Natara, it's not going to be
- 11:31hull. OK, you'd bet Shivua Shiloh
- 11:37Okhalteisha he practices Shivua that he's not going to eat 9.
- 11:41It doesn't specify exactly which 99 loaves of bread in the world,
- 11:45whatever it is, 9 Apples, whatever it is, 9.
- 11:49He's not pointing to them yet. We'll get there later.
- 11:51Shivua Shiloh Okhalteisha, the Khazer, the Amar, and then the
- 11:55second shivua is Shilo Ahal, Shiloh Okhal Esser.
- 11:59He's not going to eat 10. So Ayn Hashini Akala, you can't.
- 12:06The second one won't be called because by the time you go to
- 12:09bite into your 10th loaf, you already violated the first one.
- 12:13You can't. There's no way to get there and
- 12:15without violating the first one. And you're already Kaya with the
- 12:18Shivua on the first one and ain't Shiva Kala Shivua.
- 12:22OK Amar, but what if he says Shiva Shiva called Tasha Alu.
- 12:27If he says that these nine that are right in front of me, I'm
- 12:30not going to eat like in the Shiva and then he says Shiva
- 12:34Shiloh, Khal Esser and but I'm not going to eat 10 apples in
- 12:37the world. Well, you can eat a different 10
- 12:40apples, not the nine in front of you.
- 12:42So it's certainly is Khal Gama Shuniya khala.
- 12:45The second one will be Khal because there's something that's
- 12:47added there. There's something else in the
- 12:49world that's being made into your oath or prohibited by your
- 12:54oath. The EME Oh Khal Tasha elu.
- 12:57So since the second one is Khal, they're both Khal.
- 13:01Even if you eat these nine. So you eat these nine, you're
- 13:04Khayev on the first one, the old ehad, and you find another apple
- 13:08or a loaf in the in the world, whatever, whatever your Shiva
- 13:12was. So then ofer I'll stay Shavuot.
- 13:15Then you'll be over on both Shavuot, right?
- 13:18You're when you ate the those nine, you're over on those nine.
- 13:20And when you find your tent, then you'll be Khayev on the
- 13:23second Shiva good Gilmore a little bit more of this Shibuya
- 13:29Shalu Akhil Esser person makes a Shivya.
- 13:31He's not going to eat 10 and then right, a random 10.
- 13:36And then he says Shiva Shalu haltation.
- 13:38And now he says, I'm not going to be high.
- 13:40I'm going to making a Shiva not to eat 9.
- 13:43So yeish Khan, stay shove out. We have two and they're both
- 13:46how? Because the first one you're not
- 13:48going to be high of until you eat all 10.
- 13:52And when you make it on 9, well, you could be high of a nine
- 13:55before you reach 10. So therefore it's hot.
- 13:58So as soon as you eat the nine, you're high of on your second
- 14:03Shiva. But that's what you that's the
- 14:05order that you made it in. And then when you find your 10th
- 14:09loaf over Gamal or Rishona, then you're going to be high of on
- 14:13your on your 10th on the 1st Shiva.
- 14:17Now, the honey Miley Shiloh Nadra Miki Karodiya duo.
- 14:22Yeah, I probably should have used the words rolls instead of
- 14:25loafs. Loafs are quite large.
- 14:27The honey mili shalo nadar miki karote ya duo.
- 14:30Now, that's when we're not making a particular shuva on
- 14:32each roll we'll call a roll of bread, right, Because it's not
- 14:36in front. It's not clear which ones you're
- 14:38talking about. Aval IM nadar miki karote ya
- 14:41duo. If you specified which which
- 14:46rolls or loaves you're talking about in another Miki karate,
- 14:49you do it. Enochayev Ella ahat you're only
- 14:53high of 1 shihare bashvua rishona with the first shivua
- 14:58that you made nessar Nikola hila bahila shabam, you made each one
- 15:04asser, right? If your original shivua was
- 15:08these 10 in front of me, it's asser for me to eat.
- 15:11You didn't say I'm only going to be high on the shivua when I eat
- 15:14all 10. You said these 10.
- 15:16So just so when you say these 10 without saying all of them, then
- 15:21it depends on on your wording and which language you're using.
- 15:25But if it's it's if it connotes each one of the 10 like we
- 15:31mentioned before, each kazite of the loaf.
- 15:34So then then it's it depends if it's so that OK, so if the first
- 15:40one's already called, then you can't even eating one of them
- 15:42was us or you can't even use Kochikan.
- 15:45You can't reach 9 without eating that one.
- 15:47OK, you'd Dalid Shiva, Alkhal Kikar.
- 15:51Alkhal Kikar is a person makes a Shiva that he is going to eat
- 15:55this kikar. All right, a little bit of the
- 15:58converse of what we said before. It makes a Shiva.
- 16:00He is going to eat this kikar. So then or this roll Miksata,
- 16:05because Miksa Tanami, the mashma, when you just say I'm
- 16:10going to eat this roll or this loaf, it's mashma.
- 16:15Even if you eat just a little bit of it, you're makayam,
- 16:18you're Shiva. So therefore Shanishva call
- 16:21kazait, the kazait me menu. Shiokhalnath says if you made a
- 16:25Shiva that you're going to eat each, and we're going to go with
- 16:30mine for now. So especially when you keep
- 16:32reading. OK, so a person's going to eat
- 16:34it. So on every Keziah it's
- 16:36included. That is that he's Makayam, he's
- 16:38Shivua. Therefore, this is where it gets
- 16:43more practical. Nisraf Miksata, if it gets
- 16:52burnt, part of it gets burnt. You're still Hayev to finish it
- 16:57off Shahari, but you had Kavana. I guess the kavana was this is
- 17:04interesting. And so your kavana was on the
- 17:06whole loaf, but also on each little bit.
- 17:09Shaharah yoze bolla de shivato, shanishpa alcohol kazait, the
- 17:14kazait nimenu shiokhalna. So you are Yoze.
- 17:19In other words, as long if when you just say the words shaoh,
- 17:23alki, karzo, each kazait also implied.
- 17:28So even though half of it disappears on you, I don't know,
- 17:31a rat takes it, burns, something happens to it, someone else eats
- 17:35it by mistake or doesn't realize it's yours or whatever it is or
- 17:38it belongs to, well, belongs to everyone else.
- 17:42Can you make a shuva on it? Yeah, you made a personal shuva
- 17:46to eat the whole thing. OK.
- 17:47Anyways, half of it disappears. You still have to eat every
- 17:53remaining kisayat that's there because that was your Shiva and
- 17:56it includes you didn't make a Shiva for eating the entire
- 18:00loaf, you made a Shiva for eating.
- 18:03That's the wording, that's what it means.
- 18:04Again, depends on your language, depends what's meant, but in
- 18:08this case, that's what it means, Shah Ki karzo.
- 18:10So it includes every kisayat. So therefore, even if part of it
- 18:14goes, you still have your Shiva is still hall on each remaining
- 18:18kazait umiyuki shihilafeneno. But when it's in front of you,
- 18:22sorry le echo kula. But it's also implied in this
- 18:26Shiva that you also have to finish it off.
- 18:29It's like a double expression here, or a double meaning fine
- 18:34Tadvov. Yeah, you need to eat.
- 18:37You might think that you only eat 1 kazaits enough.
- 18:40One kazait in this case is not enough, so you have to.
- 18:43But if there's only one kazait left, you still have to eat that
- 18:45Kazait tedva. That's what it means.
- 18:49OK, I don't know Shavua Shokhalna.
- 18:51Now here is you use the other word again.
- 18:54This is the language in the times of the Mishnah when you
- 18:57when you say shokhalna, I'm going to eat it.
- 18:59So that connotes in those days that it means the entire loaf.
- 19:04So Loyola and you won't be makayam, you're shivua loyatse
- 19:08de hovato achiyo kakula. You must eat the entire loaf or
- 19:13roll whatever it was, the fika nisraf mikseta.
- 19:17And so therefore, if there's an onus and half of it burns,
- 19:20disappears, whatever, ain't sarika ho, you don't have to now
- 19:24eat the rest of it. You're 100% it's an onus and
- 19:27you're maybe need some kind of kapara, maybe a little bit.
- 19:30But regardless, you're Shiva. You can't be a makayam anymore,
- 19:34so therefore shalo yazaboya de hovato and therefore you're
- 19:39absolved from your obligation, at least for a of a shivua.
- 19:44I'm not sure. Maybe we need shamaya.
- 19:46We need to do a little bit, but then but you're off the hook
- 19:49because it was on the entire amount and it's and and you
- 19:53can't. All right, let's stop.