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Don Beebe: Super Bowl Champion and Much More · Motor City Mad Mouth

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  Speaker 1: Happy Monday. Everybody. My name is Scott Morgan off the
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  Speaker 1: MotorCity Madmouth and you are tuning into these soup to
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  Speaker 1: the MotorCity mad Mouth Show, and I am pleased to
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  Speaker 1: have special guests Don Beabie, a Super Bowl champion, and
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  Speaker 1: a whole lot more. Stay tuned, everybody, because I got
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  Speaker 1: news for you. You're gonna learn about Don more than
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  Speaker 1: what he's done on the field, but what he's gone
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  Speaker 1: off the field, because I think, without a doubt both
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  Speaker 1: are just as impressive. One of the things I look
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  Speaker 1: for with guests is not if they've been successful on
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  Speaker 1: the field, but what they've done after their careers. And Don,
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  Speaker 1: to me is a model of what we target for here.
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  Speaker 1: And Don, glad to have you back. It was great
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  Speaker 1: seeing you out in Illinois.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good to be on the show Againstcott.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you well, Thank you super Bowl everybody were candy
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  Speaker 1: ably and I are going to be in New Orleans.
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  Speaker 1: Are actually be leaving on middle of the night, probably Saturday,
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  Speaker 1: because that's just how my body is built. And we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna be staying in Biloxi, Mississippi, getting in New Orleans
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  Speaker 1: on Sunday to get ready for a ride that's unbelievable.
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  Speaker 1: So but that said, don what we're gonna do is
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about your super Bowls, but in a
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  Speaker 1: very very different way. And I'll explain what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: Tomis sorta once told me at the nineteen eighty one
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  Speaker 1: Baseball Winter Meetings, because God delays does not mean that
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  Speaker 1: God denis. So this vest defines your super Bowl experience.
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  Speaker 1: And I think the fact of the matter is you
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  Speaker 1: want you lost five but managed to win one. And
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  Speaker 1: I also know that to me, when you do that,
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  Speaker 1: do you feel that this taught you a big lesson
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  Speaker 1: about perseverance?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, first of all, you know, it's you know,
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  Speaker 2: I coach in the Division III level now, and it's
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  Speaker 2: all relative. So no matter what, from pee wee football
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  Speaker 2: the way up to the professional levels, only one wins. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: so only one can win. So out of thirty two teams,
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  Speaker 2: one can win. Out of Division three two hundred and
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  Speaker 2: forty three teams, only one can win. So does that
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  Speaker 2: mean that if you don't win, you're a loser. No,
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  Speaker 2: not at all. That a loser or a winner is
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  Speaker 2: not defined by wins and losses. They're defined by their
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  Speaker 2: attitude and their their character and how hard they work
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  Speaker 2: to earn things in life. And I always tell the
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  Speaker 2: football players that I coach is that if you are
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  Speaker 2: working as hard as you can and striving to be
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  Speaker 2: the best that you can be, you can live with
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  Speaker 2: whatever the result is. It's what most people fall into
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  Speaker 2: the other category that all they wanted, but they're not
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  Speaker 2: willing to get off the couch. They're not willing to
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  Speaker 2: go train really hard or earn things in life, and
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  Speaker 2: they expect things to just, you know, come to them.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't work that way, and then later in life,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Scott, they regret it, and and so I
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  Speaker 2: think that's the I always say this. I never want
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  Speaker 2: to put myself in a position to say two words
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  Speaker 2: I wish. As soon as you say I wish, it's
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  Speaker 2: two more words, it's too late. So don't don't ever
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  Speaker 2: say I wish.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get some activity in the chat room. Done. I
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  Speaker 1: told you we're going to have some people on here.
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  Speaker 1: So here we go. Pengmin's forks, a guy pencil in sports.
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  Speaker 1: What's going on? And these guys are going to be
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  Speaker 1: pretty busy. I've told them about these shows. So the
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  Speaker 1: reality of situation, that chatter is going to be busy.
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  Speaker 1: We're talking about it a little bit. So with that said,
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  Speaker 1: I know you played for the Buffalo Bills Greemate Packers
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  Speaker 1: of the Carolina Panthers, there are another girls season. First
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  Speaker 1: of all, what was the light playing for the path
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  Speaker 1: or during their inaugural season?
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  Speaker 2: Well, fortunately we had a you know, it was a
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  Speaker 2: five hundred year, which I think at that time in
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  Speaker 2: nineteen ninety five was the first franchise in their inaugural
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  Speaker 2: season that was five hundred or better. Nobody's ever had
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  Speaker 2: in any sport. Nobody ever has had it. Now, I
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  Speaker 2: could be wrong, but that's what I remember hearing. And
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  Speaker 2: we were eight and eight that year, so we we
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  Speaker 2: had a lot of veteran guys and you know lot,
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  Speaker 2: I love Charlotte. We really loved the city of Charlotte.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously being a new team, you know, I you know,
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  Speaker 2: I don't say I struggle, but it was different because
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  Speaker 2: you know, you're coming from Buffalo going to four Super Bowls,
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  Speaker 2: and I mean just pandemic. I mean as far as attitudes,
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  Speaker 2: as far as everybody's bought in and everybody loves it. Man, Hope.
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  Speaker 2: The whole Western New York is incredible. The organization was amazing.
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  Speaker 2: So when you go to that and then it's all new,
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  Speaker 2: the expectations are lower. I mean, our expectations were Buffalo
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  Speaker 2: shoots August. We were packing our bags to go in
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  Speaker 2: February right to the super book because that's just that
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  Speaker 2: was our attitude. So it was different, but I enjoyed it, uh,
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  Speaker 2: And then I went back to it one year later
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  Speaker 2: when I went to Green Bay. So it was kind
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  Speaker 2: of a nice segue or a little bit of a
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  Speaker 2: hiatus of one year. To be honest, I believe it, Cheryl.
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  Speaker 1: It's really nice area. It really really is. So what
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  Speaker 1: that said, let's watch two bucks told you we're going
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  Speaker 1: to talk about the courts the last time I remember,
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  Speaker 1: I think in like one. So nevertheless, what can readers
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  Speaker 1: learn from them? And please let everybody know what books
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  Speaker 1: they are or where they can get them.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the only place that you can get these books
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  Speaker 2: is don bb dot com. And I actually am packing
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  Speaker 2: on my desk right now. I got a big book
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  Speaker 2: signing coming up Friday, and I'm packing things into bundles
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  Speaker 2: and I have I have some right here actually that
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  Speaker 2: I just wrote these and how these came about. This
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  Speaker 2: was the original book Six Rings from nowhere. This came
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  Speaker 2: out in twenty twelve. It's my life story, which I
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  Speaker 2: talk about quite often. I do a lot of I
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  Speaker 2: got ten ten speaking engagement Scott coming up over the
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  Speaker 2: next two and a half months all over the country,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm really looking forward to those. I enjoyed traveling
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  Speaker 2: and speaking and I mainly kind of speak on those.
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  Speaker 2: But I was this marketing firm, chifect out of Nashville, Tennessee,
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  Speaker 2: which my daughter works there, and they contacted me and
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  Speaker 2: they wanted me to do a wide receiver book. I'll
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  Speaker 2: be honest, I had no interest Scott and doing a
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  Speaker 2: wide receiver book at sixty years old and coaching and
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  Speaker 2: all that stuff. So I just said we were kind
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  Speaker 2: of halfway through the project and literally I'm on the
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  Speaker 2: phone my daughter and we're talking about this project, and
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  Speaker 2: it was like God just kind of just laid it
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  Speaker 2: on my heart to say, you know what, We're going
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  Speaker 2: to put this project on hold because I have a
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  Speaker 2: whole nother idea. And my idea, Scott, was there's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of devotional books out there, right, I mean, everybody
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  Speaker 2: has a devotional and then there's a lot of devotion
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  Speaker 2: for athletes, for sports, you know, centered around sports, and
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  Speaker 2: I've had some of those through my life, but I
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  Speaker 2: don't ever remember a former professional athlete doing a devotional
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  Speaker 2: on experiences that God allowed them to go through and
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  Speaker 2: how'd you get through it, you know, spiritually and scripturally? Right?
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  Speaker 2: So I told my daughter, I said, I got it,
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  Speaker 2: We're going to do this, and it came out to
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  Speaker 2: be this never give Up. And so it's twelve stories,
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  Speaker 2: okay about things that happened in my athletic career that
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  Speaker 2: pretty much every athlete goes through. How to deal with
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  Speaker 2: the coach, how to run down Leon Latten? Why did
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  Speaker 2: I do that? I mean, how do you get to
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  Speaker 2: that point? We run them down and don't even think
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  Speaker 2: about it?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 2: And that's the first one, obviously, and hence why that's
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  Speaker 2: the cover. And I wrote twelve different stories. I did
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  Speaker 2: all the routing writing. Obviously, the company edited because I'm
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  Speaker 2: not great at editing, but I can write, and it
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  Speaker 2: came out and it's been phenomenal. It's been out about
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  Speaker 2: eight month right now, and it's just it's been incredible.
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  Speaker 2: And traveling around speaking about that has been quite a
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  Speaker 2: chore or a cheery thing for me because there's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of athletes out there to have a lot of questions.
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  Speaker 2: But then it was approached to me. I mean literally,
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  Speaker 2: this one just came out, and then all of a
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  Speaker 2: sudden they wanted me to do on a devotional on
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  Speaker 2: fathers and how do dads handle kids being in sports?
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  Speaker 2: How do dads handle their kids in general? It doesn't
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  Speaker 2: have to be centered around athletics. It could be anything
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  Speaker 2: in life a matter of fact. One of the devotional
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  Speaker 2: and it's called in His Image, and it's all about
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  Speaker 2: how did I handle certain situations. For example, one of
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  Speaker 2: my oldest daughter was t boned by suv one February night,
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  Speaker 2: cold night up here in Chicago area. And we is
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  Speaker 2: eleven thirty at night, midnight, and we're traveling as fasts
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  Speaker 2: we can to the site. We don't know if she's alive.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you always think the worst, right as human beings.
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  Speaker 2: And my wife and I just praying the whole way
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  Speaker 2: there and just like God, just you know, just praying
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  Speaker 2: that she's gonna be okay. So we didn't know what
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  Speaker 2: to expect. We get to the site, we see her
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  Speaker 2: car first. It was completely demolished. I mean there's they
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  Speaker 2: had to jaws lifer out of the car okay, and
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  Speaker 2: cut the car park just to get her out. And
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  Speaker 2: that's what we heard when I first got the call,
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  Speaker 2: and so we were going to the scene not knowing
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  Speaker 2: right well, she's okay, She'll ended up being fine. But
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  Speaker 2: one thing it revealed to us is, man, you know,
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  Speaker 2: as much as I want to be a superhuman dad
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  Speaker 2: and protect my kids, I can't. I'm a human being.
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  Speaker 2: I can't. Only God can do that. And so I
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  Speaker 2: it was a great lesson for me that these are
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  Speaker 2: God's children. First, He just gave them to me here
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  Speaker 2: on earth. And when I had that perspective, it was
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  Speaker 2: just refreshing that if I would have even lost her
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  Speaker 2: that night, I would have been able to get through it. It
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  Speaker 2: had been difficult, extremely difficult, okay, but I would have
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  Speaker 2: been able to get through it because of my faith.
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  Speaker 2: And so I wrote twelve different stories centered around those
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  Speaker 2: types of things and how do you handle those things right?
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  Speaker 2: And they it's just been great. I'm so glad I
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  Speaker 2: did them both. I never thought it would be a book,
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  Speaker 2: guy or you know, or and now a movie. I
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  Speaker 2: don't even know if you know, Scott, because the last
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  Speaker 2: time we talked, I have a a production company called me. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: it's been quite some time now, a year and a half,
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  Speaker 2: maybe ago, a year and a half a year. Salt
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  Speaker 2: the Earth Pictures out of Wisconsin is actually doing a
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  Speaker 2: movie on this book, and it's called Run for Glory
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  Speaker 2: and it comes out by the end of twenty twenty six,
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  Speaker 2: and so we're kind of in the middle of that.
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  Speaker 2: The script is written now, we're into casting it right now,
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  Speaker 2: and we're trying to find out who's going to play me.
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  Speaker 2: Of course I'm saying, you know, Brad Pitt, but that
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  Speaker 2: probably I could fly, so it'll be somebody much ugly here,
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  Speaker 2: but you could. We're in the middle of that too.
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  Speaker 2: So it's been been a lot of things going on.
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  Speaker 1: You already define what I said earlier. God, seriously, really,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, well, you've done after your career is unbelievable.
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  Speaker 1: I have to ask you that the words never get
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  Speaker 1: to give up are synonymous with Jim valvan Yeah. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So can you imagine you having a book titled with
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  Speaker 1: three of his famous key words and then that, ever,
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  Speaker 1: and of your thought that there might be some Jim
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  Speaker 1: Valvano comparisons.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean again, I it's it's two. You know,
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  Speaker 2: the meaning of the context of the of the three
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  Speaker 2: words mean the same. Obviously, you know, he was dying
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  Speaker 2: of cancer and they eventually died of cancer when he
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  Speaker 2: came up with that three letter, three worded phrase. So,
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  Speaker 2: I mind comes from more of persevering through tough times
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  Speaker 2: and letting God just opened doors amazingly and then be
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  Speaker 2: able to do the ultimate in sports is win a
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  Speaker 2: super Bowl. You know, so it the again, the context
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  Speaker 2: of both mean the same. Just you know, giving up
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  Speaker 2: is not an option. This is not and that's exactly
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  Speaker 2: what Balvano meant by his deal. It's just not an option.
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  Speaker 2: And he and he landed up dying of it. And
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  Speaker 2: so Stuart Scott and Stuart had the same kind of
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  Speaker 2: you know method towards his you know, at the end there,
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  Speaker 2: just giving up was not an option. And you know what,
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  Speaker 2: to their dying day, both of those guys they didn't
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  Speaker 2: give up. I mean they thought that they fought the
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  Speaker 2: battle hard and it was it was inspiring to watch,
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  Speaker 2: to be honest with.
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  Speaker 1: You, And then you come up with a book with
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  Speaker 1: that title, and I think it's just absolutely, really really cool. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: all right, let's talk about Aurora University where you're at
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  Speaker 1: university in twenty eighteen, replacing Rick pok As. I understand
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  Speaker 1: you're fifty one and ten in your time there. How's
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  Speaker 1: everything going for you?
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's it's been. I've coached at two teams,
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  Speaker 2: you know, wanted a Royal Christian High School for ten
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  Speaker 2: years as a head coach and then four more as
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  Speaker 2: an offensive coordinator and let my brother take the head
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  Speaker 2: job because I wanted to go see my son play
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  Speaker 2: college ball. And then and then and then at Royal
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  Speaker 2: University at the college level. Both are very similar Scott
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  Speaker 2: situations were when we went into the in there, Like
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  Speaker 2: for example, in four when we went to Royal Christian
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  Speaker 2: High School, believe this or not, they had no football field,
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  Speaker 2: they had no weight room, and they had seventeen kids
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  Speaker 2: in the whole program, freshman through seniors on the team.
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  Speaker 2: And it was it was a school that had never
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  Speaker 2: won a conference title. Shoot, there were two teams in
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  Speaker 2: their conference. They had never bet in the history of
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  Speaker 2: their school. It was I always say it was the
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  Speaker 2: bad news bears on steroids, That's how bad it was.
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  Speaker 2: But yet it was amazing. Just you know, coaches don't
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  Speaker 2: win football games. Players do, and that, you know, I
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  Speaker 2: never understood as a player, but I certainly understand as
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  Speaker 2: a coach. All coaches really can do is change your
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  Speaker 2: mind and change your heart. They all they can do
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  Speaker 2: is help create a culture that everybody's bought in, and
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  Speaker 2: everybody just loves to go to practice and loves to
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  Speaker 2: work out, and they get along and they love each other,
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  Speaker 2: and they create this chemistry, right, and it starts to
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  Speaker 2: evolve into this culture. That's what wins. And that's what
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  Speaker 2: we did at Rock Christian. And Rock Christian went on
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  Speaker 2: to go to three state championships over the next ten years,
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  Speaker 2: and seven of those ten where the quarterfinals and five
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  Speaker 2: of the ten were semi finals. And it turned into
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  Speaker 2: a perennial powerhouse there for those ten years. And it really, Scott.
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  Speaker 2: It really started with a thought. It really did, you know,
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  Speaker 2: because I told the first day, and I might have
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  Speaker 2: been a little bit crazy, but I'm kind of crazy.
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  Speaker 2: I told him. I said, guys, I don't care what
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  Speaker 2: you've done in the past. I said, today we're gonna
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  Speaker 2: start thinking, eating, drinking, training, practicing, doing everything we can
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  Speaker 2: in this school to a state championship. Because until you
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  Speaker 2: start thinking, it's never gonna happen, and so they started.
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  Speaker 2: They bought into it. I gotta tell you, they bought
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  Speaker 2: into it. And again, where did I get that? I
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  Speaker 2: got that from coaches that I had, Mike Comb Grin
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  Speaker 2: to the Packers and Marve Leavy of the Bills. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: we just you just felt going into the season We're
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  Speaker 2: going to the super Bowl. I mean just felt it.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Dan Campbell is doing a great job in Detroit. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: he understands what I'm talking about right now. He has
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  Speaker 2: taken the culture of Detroit losing to now into a winner.
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  Speaker 2: And when these guys going to the game, man, there's
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  Speaker 2: no doubt in their mind that they're gonna win it.
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  Speaker 2: That is your biggest hurdle as a and we're talking
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  Speaker 2: sports now, but that's your biggest hurdle in life. Whatever
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  Speaker 2: you want to do, forget sports, just anything in life.
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  Speaker 2: You want to be a great husband, you want to
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  Speaker 2: be a great dad. You know what, You've got to
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  Speaker 2: have the mindset this is what I want to be.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I'm gonna do, and I'm gonna and then
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  Speaker 2: the second part that most people don't do is you
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  Speaker 2: got to you gotta work really hard to do that.
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  Speaker 2: Nothing comes easy, you know, because it's easy. Everybody be
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  Speaker 2: doing it right, everybody would have one. Yeah, it's not
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  Speaker 2: that way. And and so it's just been you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's been greater at you. I love my years at
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  Speaker 2: roy Christian but I love my six years now at
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  Speaker 2: a Royal University. And and we have had some great success.
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  Speaker 2: I mean we haven't reached the ultimate what that ultimate
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  Speaker 2: goal is to win a national title, but in time
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  Speaker 2: we'll get there.
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  Speaker 1: Chat room, Ralph William Fello, guys plan forwards. It's crazy,
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  Speaker 1: no weight room and of course ten and forward. So
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  Speaker 1: I work with a couple of times a week time
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  Speaker 1: and change the philosophy of the team. I always knew
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  Speaker 1: that you were one of my favorite guest times. So
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  Speaker 1: but that said, we're going to turn over the brains
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  Speaker 1: of the operation to give us a station break and
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  Speaker 1: we'll continue on with on bb here on the MotorCity
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• 18:13
  Speaker 1: There you go down a little bit of information about
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: my book. My book just to give you an idea
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: to talk about old school media versus news school media,
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: and like their first one that talks about my stories
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: over the years leading up to where I'm at, and
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: I do have another one I'll probably be working on
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: later in the year to provide updates on what we've seen,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: because you know full will. In this industry, there's so
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: many changes with the addition of streaming and so much stuff.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: It's way beyond anybody's sec day. That really is when
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: things are different. You got fines for saying certain things
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: or weren't allowed to toss on the air, and now
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: with the emergency podcasts don at Really it's a different animal.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: So all right, let's talk about something more interesting. I've
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: always wondered about this with you. But you have to
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: deal with the nil and the transfer portal half not?
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: Are you glad you don't have to deal with that.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: We don't have to deal with nil money much at all,
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: which I'll be honest with you, Scott, I I don't
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: really have a problem with players making money in the
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: college level. Some that I mean, look at money's going somewhere.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: I mean they're making the money. So to have the
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: people that are actually on why people are paying the
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: ticket to go see get some money, I have no
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: problem with it. I think they need to limit it, okay,
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: I mean it's gotten out of control. I don't think
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: a college athletes should be making more in a professional athlete,
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: So they should put limits on that. Now, the transfer
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: portal is completely different. I'm not a fan at all.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: I think it's going to ruin sports. A lot of
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: coaches are feeling the same way. Uh here's here's okay,
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: let's just put it this way. Is why do coach?
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Why do most coaches get into coaching. I'll tell you why,
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: to mentor their kids, mentor people. That's why you coach.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: If you're not doing that, get out of coaching, please.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: If it's about wins and losses and money and all
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: that stuff, to stop, to stop coaching. Okay, most people
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: that I've coached against and with are they're in it
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: because they love to mentor, right, So what the portal
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: does that kills that? And I'll tell you why. Because one,
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: first of all, FBS schools are not even really recruiting
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: high schools anymore because they know when they bring in
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: a high school kid, Okay, he's going to play one year,
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: two years, and boom, he's gone. He's going to take
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: the biggest ticket wherever that is. FBS. So how do
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: you mentor a kid in a year or two you know,
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: I mean the mentor to really dive into a person
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: and get to know them and get their trust. Well,
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: that takes time. They're not just going to walk on
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: campus and reveal who they are, you know, And that
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: is why I coach. So now we at our level
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: haven't had to deal with it yet, but it's starting
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: to trickle to there a little bit more. Uh. You know,
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: we had four kids that wanted to go on the
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: transfer portal. Then I sing the nice thing about Division three,
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: and the stats prove this that when a Division three
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: kid puts himself into the portal, well, guess what, You're
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: going to another D three program or you're not going
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: to ever play again. So why would you go to
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: another D three program to start the process all over
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: again that you just tried to do for a year
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: or two to get into that position. And now you
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: got to really kind of go to another one because
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: to go from a Division three to an FBS forget it.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: Forget it's not gonna happen. They just go to another
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: FBS school and get another FBS athlete, right instead of
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: going to Division three school. Has it happened?
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: I think once this year a kid from Bethel Safety
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: went to Wisconsin. I mean, that's the only one that
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: I know of. So I mean, it's it's so rare.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Could they go to an FCS again, possibly, but highly unlikely.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: Those schools are going to go to another Division one
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: program and grab somebody there in the portal. So to
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: leave a Division three two, Division three school really doesn't
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: make any sense, especially a really good program like Aurora
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: and some of the other ones that are across the country.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: Why would you lead that program and to go to
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: most likely a lesser program. And of the four that
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: left us, they all all of them went to another
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: D three program and two of them two of the
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: four really haven't even found a home yet, you know,
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: and the other two went to different programs. So I
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: don't think it's going to get really crazy like it
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: is in the FBS FCS level down at the level
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: that I am, And thank goodness, boy God had my back,
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: didn't he, Because I'm telling you I would not coach
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: in the FBS for that one reason right there. Just
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: wouldn't do it because of mentoring people. And then you're
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: gone in a year or two. That makes no sense.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So, if I'm hearing here correctly, you think it's
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: going to destroys at some point until they put a
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: linen on it is that correct? Yeah?
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Well, first of all, they've opened the can of worms now, right, okay,
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: And the reason they did is because they got scared
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: of some lawsuit that one person probably was doing okay,
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: because his image was being used and they thought they
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: should be so they're gonna go sue you. So the
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: n cua A really you know, kind of put their
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: tail between the legs and ram right and and said
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: fine and this, and then they just open the flood
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: gates to where it's they you have more freedom now
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: as a college athlete than you do as an NFL athlete.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: Think about that, It's true, and and that just makes
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: no sense. So now can they pull the reins and
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: circle back on this and create some I hope so.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: But man, you've you've gone You've gone too far now.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I've often wondered how do they take
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: So I'm not sure if you can unless you go
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: ahead and have a limited window one time, and that's
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: it the player has to say, because we all know
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: what the rules were before that. If you left, you
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: had to sit out a year and then you got
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: to play. Well, well, you know, welcome to twenty twenty
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: five people. That isn't going to happen. New thing, it
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: is factable.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, one thing you can't do is just put
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: your head in the sand and basically quit and just say, yeah, whatever,
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. We're still making a paycheck, right, you know,
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: we're still getting making a lot of money. I'm sure
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: the FBS Final twelve tournament was highly successful and they
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: made a ton of money. So that's all they care about.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: They don't care about individual things and stuff like this
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: and mentoring kids. I mean, good night, it's the last
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: thing they probably think about, sadly, but it's true because
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: if they did, they just wouldn't allow this. It's it's
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: kind of like raising kids and just let your kid
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: just kind of come and go as they please out
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: of the house. Well, as my dad says, you live
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: in my house, you play by my rules. So that's
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: kind of become a you know, Sadly, not many do
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: that anymore. But I hope they change it for the
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: FBS reasons. But I personally, at our level, I don't
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: think we're gonna have to deal with it at a
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: at a very alarming rate.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: But the fact that you had to deal with it,
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: it's surprises me to you alluded to his Division three
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: but look at it, so all right, let's work our
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: way over towards postseason. That was some heavy lumber coming
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: from a guy that played the game in the pros
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: and now working in Division three. I only doing his
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: writing books and mentoring and the worst thing in the world.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: You know, don beebe looked up for roa college you
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: want to be taught real well, he's been a good
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: friend of mine for a long time and needs a
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: champion in more ways than one. All right, talking about
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: ways to win a championship, they'll like a new playoff
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: format consisting of twelve teams, and do you feel they
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: have to add any more team? Do you think twelve
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: is a good number?
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: I think twelve is a good number. I mean, I
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: liked it. I like it way better than four. I think.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: I think it just gives you know, obviously more teams
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: that would never have a chance of getting in the
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: final four, and it gives those teams a little bit
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: of a better chance of pulling it off and making
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: a run. You know, if they went anymore, I think
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: it would last too long then, But I would certainly
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: err on the side of maybe more than less. I
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: would keep it twelve or more. I would not go less.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: The only number that would make sense to me because
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: of what you just said, yeah, would be sixteen. Otherwise
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: that's it. Yeah, I think a lot of people in
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: the Midwest are glad that the Big ten, though has
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: gone out there and one two of the last national
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: championships in the SEC. All right, let's go to dot
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Robert Ordell that I have here, eighty nine rookie card down.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Look at that.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: This guy's good, Roberts agey.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the old, the old eighty nine score card. Boy,
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: that's a that was one of the best. Just so
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: you know, that was one of the best packs went
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: and one of the best drafts in NFL history really
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: with Aikman and Barry Sanders and Dion Sanders and a
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: lot of good ones came out that year.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not going to complain about Barry Sanders. I
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: think one of the most comical things that came out
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: of Dion sanders mouth was I don't think the Fords
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: can afford me. Well, I think Dion didn't realize that
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: they're only a billionaire family. You don't have to like
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: the way they run their organization because they've been into
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: gim for a while and we all know it. So
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: Troy Aikman what his accomplishment as a championship caliber quarterback
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: for sure. So yeah, it was a good draft without
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: a doubt. So let's get your highlights with the Bills
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: and the Packers, And would you have come to New
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Orleans had any what any of those two teams have
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: made it to Orleans?
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Do you mean when I the Packer team that I
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: played on.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: No, yeah, if you would you if the Bills and
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: reached the Super Bowl, would you have come down for
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl?
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: You know, my wife and I actually talked about that,
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: and a bunch of guys were talking about it. You know,
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: if they would have had a get together before the
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: game or something like that, we would have made the
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: trip down. Yet I'm not so sure I would have
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: went to the game. I'll be honest with Scott, and
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: you know this as well as anybody. The game has
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: been a corporate game for a long time. It's not
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: a fan game. That's not a fan game. That's a
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: corporate game. You gotta you got a big money to
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: go to that game.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: The common fan, especially in Green Bay and you know
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: Western New York where these are just blue collar people.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: You know, they can't afford to buy a scalp ticket
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: between four to ten grand to go for one ticket
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: to go to a game of it's insane. So would
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: I have gone to the game, Probably not, but I
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: would have certainly have gone to the if a bunch
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: of guys were going, we would have made a trip down.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Yet, yeah, I didn't apply for the game this year.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: I've been before a game, lien there and done that,
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: candy getting your first opportunity to go. So you talk
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: about a kid of a candy store, I can't help,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: but you can't really incredible experience.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: I'm glad. Let me just say this because I was
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: asked this question today, Are you really pulling for the Bills?
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: And I said, well, of course I'm pulling for the Bills.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: I said for two reasons, okay, two reasons why. I
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: am an absolute huge Bills fan. And and don't get
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: me wrong, I'm a Packers fan too, and I pulled
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: for the pack But but the Bills are special for
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: two reasons. Marv Levy, he's ninety nine years old. I
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: would love to see a Super Bowl Championship come to
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Buffalo for Marv Levy okay, and and I would love
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: to see it for Western New York fans. No one,
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: nobody deserves a Super Bowl more than Western New York people.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Those people are awesome and uh and they love their
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: Bills and the Bills mafia has gone just complete haywire.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: They're everywhere, okay, and and it's become man, it's become
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: a national thing right now. I mean they're they're in
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: the category of the you know, the Dallas Cowboys and
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: the Green Bay Packer fan base. I mean they're it's huge,
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: you know. So for those two reasons, I would love
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: to see that. I remember when I won the Super
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: Bowl with the Packers, and people always ask me, you know,
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: what were you feeling, man, what was it like when
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: you want it? Well, initially I just walked up the
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: farm and he gave me the game ball and he said, man,
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: you deserve it. Beeps and and I mean that was
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: you know, that was a cool moment. But you know,
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: I just remember that night I walking off my off
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: the field with my two children at that time, Amanda
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: and Chad, they were four and two years old, just
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: walking off the field with them just taking the homew in.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: And I'll be honest with it was I don't I
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: wouldn't say I was. I was crying, but it was.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: It was really internally emotional for me because my thoughts
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: were really going to why me? I mean, why am
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: I the one out of all those people? Coach Levy,
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Kelly Western New York, Bill Pollyan, the fans, you know,
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: why can't? I wish they could be experiencing it as
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: well as me. And I almost felt I almost felt,
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: you know, like selfish in the sense that I felt
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: not worthy to be that person, to be holding it
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: up for the Buffalo Bills as well, you know, that
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: a guy. Because oh man, I tell you, Scott, I
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: cannot tell you how many people sent messages to me.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: Thank god social media wasn't like it is now. I mean,
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: I couldn't Instagram and Twitter and all the stuff that
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: we got now, oh my god, it would have been
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: a thousand. But I just got a ton of calls
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: and in messages from people. It was just really overwhelming
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: by Bill's fans to.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Get a show on social media. We don't have the time,
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: but I'm gonna tell you that's I met Ralph Wilson
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: and when I in Tampa, and I was hoping one
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: day he'd get an opportunity because he's done some unmlievable
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: things in Buffalo. But here it is, Don. I approached
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: marveliev Once upon a time he was the head coach
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: of the Kansas City Chiefs and they weren't that good. Also,
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: keep in mind he was a coach in the Canadian
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: Football League. So I walked on and I asked Coach
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: I anthy question. We ran that wing tea offense. Tell
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: me what that was like to put together. So Coach
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: Levy looks at me. Here this one out, okay, he said,
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: you remember that office. I said, Don, I'm an NFL
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: guy through and through the tleet and even read it
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: really well. Now how many of your players playable with it?
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: But it was at of it up as he was
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: compliment me, you know, pat me on the back and
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: whatever you can do. Weave the offense from Marv lady
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: revn eriously and he was impressed that I knew that.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: But he's a great guy. Yes, who wouldn't root for
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: Buffalo knowing you wanted Marv Levy to go out there
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: and experience some sort of joy knowing full well that
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: he coached Jim Kelly and a lot of other great players.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: And incidentally, I worked with Jim Kelly back at the
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: University of Miami back in the early eighties when Power
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Cellenberger was there. Marvlieving to me to find Buffalo Bill's
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: football in any way that you possibly could come up with,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: because he talked about you mentoring people are learning from
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: great people. How many people of Marv we be mentored?
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, Marv just celebrated his ninety ninth birthday.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: I think back in September, it was October maybe, and
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: a bunch of guys flew in. You know, he lives
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: in the Noore, Chicago, so a bunch of guys flew in,
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: and I think there was about nine or ten of
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: us that took them to dinner downtown Chicago, Harry Carey's,
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: you know, Jim Kelly's, Bennett Thurman, Thomas, Bruce Smith, Andre Reid,
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: Steve Tasker and we just all went to dinner together
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: with Coach and it was just so good to see him.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: He's doing amazingly well for ninety nine years old. Incredible.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: One of the greatest, most humble people you could ever meet.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's just amazing person.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Resident. I have a camera phone, but one of my words,
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: camera phones and videos will be on display in the Orleans.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: And the best part about Candy Company is awfully when
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: it comes to that stuff. Everything I had to do,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: I had to do it on my own. But this
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: time I'll actually go out there and have an opportunity
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: to get some real tape on there. J D Wyatt,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: I want to talk about one of my up and
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: coming guys on this network. I'm bringing in some young
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: steads and it's great. Like you say, you talk about
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: you like in the mentor people, so do why? I
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: think it's really good. Some of them work out, so
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: don't you know when they fall apart? And they do
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: in this kind of things, it's one thing, but every
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: so often you run across that individual that's hungry and
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: then you want to do everything in your power to
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: make them really, really successful. And this guy here that
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: just come in the chat room, there's another guy in
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: my system as well. But you talk, but I'm glad
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: you fall into that GMT eight category. Great mind to
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: think alike because Andy Reid, Mike Holmgren, Brent Farrer, Jim
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Kelly or guys that enter my mind, and I know
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: I can easily tell you to them, very easily, for
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: all the right reasons. So, Kansas City against Philadelphia, I
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: want you not only to give me a prediction on
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: this game, but the ingredients to winning a Super Bowl.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: Okay, it's a couple of questions there. Let me just
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: start by saying this. I think we are witnessing the
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: greatest coach to ever coach in the NFL right now.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: I think he's the greatest play design, play calling guy
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: to ever play this game. And obviously that's Andy Reid. Listen,
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: I sat next to this guy. He was a tight
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: end coach of the Packers when I was there, and
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: I sat next to him in every offensive meeting. And
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: he is such a good person. I mean, he really
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: is a good guy and the players love him. That
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: in itself is the start of the right ingredients of
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: building and turning around the horrible Kansas City Chiefs. And
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: that's what he did. They were terrible and he gets
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: in there and look at him. I mean, what is
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: this seven in a row now championship games he's been in, Yeah,
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: and in five I think it is the last seven
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: Super Bowls. Is that I think that's right, something like that.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's crazy. And so it's more than just
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: x's and nose because I think he's the best ever.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: And that's a mouthful. I get it, because there's gonna
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: be a lot of people out there going, oh, come on, man,
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: what about this guy? What about that guy? Okay, great,
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: he's certainly in the argument. Okay, but what puts him
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: over the top is he is just such a lovable personality.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: He really is. And I and again, I know him
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: very well in the sense of, you know, Andy, when
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: he was the head coach at Philadelphia Eagles, he calls
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: me and he says, hey, I want you to train
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: my son, Spencer, who's a freshman in high school at
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: that time. And this was during the days I was
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: training athletes in the business that I had and also
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: speak And I said, yeah, absolutely, So Andy came in.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: They spent three days with us at the house and
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: and you know, and when you spend three days with
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: the person, I mean you get to know the guy
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: pretty good, even though I've already knew him, but you
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: really just you did have deep conversations, right, and just
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: found out what how genuine this guy is awesome. Family
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: and Tammy, his wife, is phenomenal and good Night. They
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: got a ton of kids and you know, they just
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: he's just and he's had tragic in his life, but
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: he handles it well.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: So I'm a big fan now in saying that, I
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: think Philadelphi's is gonna win. Okay, I really do. Even
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: though Andy is the best coach and and you could
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: argue one of the great set quarterbacks, sure, but what
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: wins super Bowls? Really the biggest the biggest hurdle that
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: Philadelphia will have to overcome is and I'm talking about
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: all of them, not just not just Jalen or not
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: just you know, uh, you know the other players. It's
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: gonna take all of them to believe that they can
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: beat them. Because Kansas City is on a roll. I mean,
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: once the team gets on a roll, it's hard to
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: have somebody come in and say we're gonna we're gonna
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: get you. You gotta have a big time attitude, Okay,
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: a mindset to be able to do that. First, if
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: they have that, they got a better running game and
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: they got a better defense, and if they play those
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: two things, because those two things from an x's and
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: o's and talent standpoint, that's what wins big payoff games
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: and certainly Super Bowls is a run, great run game
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: in great defense. Now I touched on this a little bit,
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: and this is where Buffalo struggled and where Green Bay
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: was so good on the teams that I was on
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: was Buffalo didn't handle the emotion of that game very
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: well at all, whereas Green Bay did. Obviously, Kansas City
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: has done it. It's yet to be known if Philly will.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: This is a different makeup team than when Philly won it,
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: you know, the last time they were in the Super Bowl.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: So will they be hamed? Will they? And what I
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: mean by that is this, you know, you have the
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: regular season games, a lot of pressure, okay on athletes
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: to perform they're just is. Then you have the big
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: playoff games, and the farther you go in the playoffs,
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: the bigger they get, you know, you know like that.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: You know, the poor guy kinkave the tight end for
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: the Bills last night on that last play when he
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: you know, he had a chance to catch it. I mean, sadly,
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: he's going to take a lot of heat for that
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: for the rest of his life. Okay, and it's is
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: it justified? No, it's a game. Okay, He's not perfect,
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: but that's the kind of pressure athletes have to perform under.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: And then you get to the Super Bowl, which is
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: amplified even more so. Now the team and the guys
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: in Jalen and and sa Quon and all these guys
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: that they're able to handle that the emotion of the game,
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: meaning when things go bad, and it's gonna go bad,
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: there's gonna be bad plays, there's gonna be bad moments.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: Can you just get over it if you can and
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: stay the course, Philly wins. If they don't, man, then
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: Kansas City's probably gonna win because I know Kansas City's
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: gonna handle it just fine. So we'll see.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: Nick Carriani made a bold move in the games, taken
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: Barklay an opportunity. You want to break the record or
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: do you care about breaking it? My goal is getting
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. So far that move appears to be
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: paying off. It really does pay enough. Take on Barkley
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: to me remind me of Barry Sanders, and he appears
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: will be a very very unselfish player. You're gonna pull
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: for a guy to win a title. Saquon Barkley believe
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: he was top kicked to the curve by the Giant.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: I not he really do that.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, none of that's got in the playoff first
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: playoff game, he could have gone for another what fifty
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: sixty yards and that one play at the end of
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: the game and he took a dive, right, I mean
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: he could he could have. He could have added forty
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: more to his what two hundred and fifty or whatever
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: he already had. He could have he possibly could have
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: broke a record in that game. So, yeah, it tells
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: you a lot about a guy. Boy, is that rare?
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, come on, let's just make a statement on
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley. How rare that is that a guy just
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: takes a dive and pulls himself out of the game
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: because he's there to win a game and he knows
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: that the team Philadelphia Eagles is gonna need Barkley in
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: the games to come. So why run forty sixty more
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: yards when you could pull a handstring? Why he played
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: more plays when you could get hurt. The game's over,
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: you're up fifty five or whatever. Let's let's let's get
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: out and move on to the super Bowl. Well that
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: tells you a lot about his character, you know, and
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: he he gained a lot of fans because of it,
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: that's for sure.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: Well, I've worked with Wayne find some Barry Sanders not
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: too bad? Right, Yeah, Wayne asked there you wanted to
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: change that rushing somebody else have it? And how did
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: that work out? Verry doesn't carries in the Hall of Fame.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: You already alluded to it. That one draft was definitely
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: one of the best drafts out there in so, so
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: what is a better do of Bill Belichick, Brady or
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: reading my homes? Oh?
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: Wow, wow, wow. Okay, let's put this way. Okay, yes
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: and yes, no and no meaning I'm taking I'm taking,
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: hands down the best coach Andy Reid, no doubt. Okay,
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: Now again, people are gonna argue It'll come on, Bill Belichick.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: He's been to what eight suit whatever, he is twelve
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: super Bowls, eleven and one whatever, and then Tom Brady
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: is the best player to ever play at any position.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: The only one you could argue there would be Jerry
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: Rice because Jerry Rice's records are way ahead of anybody else. Okay,
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: so you could argue Jerry and I'm fine with that,
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: But what Tom is and what put Tom over the top.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: This is what put Tom over the top is because
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: you could say Bill Belichick and the defense and the
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: system and all that stuff. Okay, great, Well then he
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: goes down to a team called Tampa who wasn't even
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: in the playoffs okay the year before, and then he
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: takes him to a Super Bowl champion. I come on, man,
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: I was like, how much more to the credibility is
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: this guy need? Yeah, there's no doubt Tom Brady. I
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: would go Tom the player and Andy the coach. That's
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: what I would say to that.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: Robert Ordell, he is a good coach, but that done
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: in Kansas City, so I get my homes and the rafts.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: I prefer him with the Eagles myself. Some thoughts.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: What's the question? I'm sorry?
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: Oh, Robert Bordell was making a observation. He was a
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: good coach, but he could not get it. He could
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: not get it done in Kansas City until Mahomes and
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: the rest. I preferred him with the Eagles myself. In
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: other words, he's saying, we did a better coaching job
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: in Philadelphia than Kansas City until you have Patrick Mahomes.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: Interesting point, well.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: I mean he did he not win? No, of course
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: he did win. He lost the Super Bowl, you know,
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: but he had Trell Owens on the team.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: Right, So I'm like that game actually exactly.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: Listen when and no, you know, I'm sure there's Terrell
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: Owens fans out there, and I'm sorry. It's just when
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: the when you're a player and you think you're bigger
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: than the team, you're a cancer. It's just that simple.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: And all that does is keeps you from winning the championship, right,
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: it really does. Man, the teams that I played with,
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: we never had those. Did we have guys that were
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: ego guys? Yeah, but they kept their mouth shut and
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: they just played and they worked hard, and they came
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: to practice every day. They weren't out in the public
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: and making a complete distraction and a fool of himself. Okay, yeah,
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: I mean you know because when they when Philly won it, it
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: was actually my roommate with the Green Bay Packers, Doug
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: Peterson as the coach in My other roommate in Buffalo,
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: Frank Wright, who is the offensive coordinator in Sarianni was
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: on that staff as well. I mean, they had some
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: good coaches, now, but I you know, that's always that's
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: always the debate. Okay, is it the coach or is
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: it the players? Okay, well, let's let's put it this way.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: First of all, the players win the games. I've already
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: said that all coaches can do is create a culture
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: of winning, right. But let's take Brett Farr. I've always
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: said this, and I really believe this. If Brett farv
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: would have never met Mike com Grin, nobody would ever
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: have known Brett Farr. Mike Comgren taught Brett Favre how
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: to be a quarterback. He took this raw ten olan
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: of a of an individual, a gun slinger from Mississippi,
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: and made him a quarterback. He did, he taught him
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: the game. I mean, Brett Farba didn't you know a
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: cover two was for crowd law When he got into
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: the league.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: I was like, how do you know?
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: And how cover two is?
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: He didn't know, he didn't care. He was just playing
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: in the backyard. And he never changed that mentality, by
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: the way. That's what that's why he was so fun
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: to play with. I mean, he just was a kid
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: playing in the backyard. But he taught him the game,
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: you know, So yes, coaches are help players, but the
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: player still has to go out there and execute. So
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: you know to his argument, you know, there's to me
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: because you know so many that, so many people said
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: that about Belichick too, right, Tom Brady leaves. It's an
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: average team, you know. So that's why it's it's the players.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: You got to get the right guys, and what they
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: got and can't see right now is it's working. Now
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: it's working. I just hope, I hope they don't go
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: to Fort Scott so they have to lose next year. Okay,
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: for obvious reasons, they can't go to four.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I couldn't do any more. I have a lot
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: of Change the City followers, So those that will listen
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: to the podcasts, you know, if you can be the
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: first team to win three in a row, more power
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: to you. Robert Ordols, come up. We're a good timents.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: And the last thing I want to do before you
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: and it's a show, is I want you to promote
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: your two books again.
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so, yep, I appreciate that.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: So don bebe dot com.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I have two more things than the chata, Okay,
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: Robert Ordell, the line of Kansas City is two and
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: a half, so people will that Casey to win field
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: goal and cover. However, with Vegas in the NFL, now
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: Philly will win all the money on Kansas City Vegas
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: wins that I know where Robert Wardell's money is going.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: We'll leave it at that. Okay, that's the question. Is
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: an all time great one football was was real? Do
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: you like the partnership with the NFL? Gambling just stirs
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: now that one? I'll like it to please answer.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Well I'm not. I'm not big on when gambling
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: gets involved in any sport, uh, for obvious reasons. But
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: I will also say Fantasy Football League has brought a
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: lot of interest to the NFL, no question about it.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: And and I'm talking about in the forms of money. Uh.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: You know, there's so many people out spending money and
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: that's why it's brought a lot of interest. The sad thing.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: The sad thing with FFL is fan base has gone
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: more towards players than teams. They're you know, especially kids
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: on the college campuses, they're they're they're a fan of
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: a guy, a player than the r team. Okay, I
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: got a certain problem with that, but you know, because
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: I grew up in a different era. However, uh it
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: You know in the NFL has strict rules on this,
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: and I'm glad they do, and I hope they never
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: changed this because it's gonna get really scary if the
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: NFL does what the n C double A does, which
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: I don't think they will because the NFL is way
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: smarter than the n C Double A and just throw
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: their hands up in katy bar the door.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: Let it.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: Everybody do what they want to do. Well, now you're
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: gonna have players betting on you know this and that
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: that that would get really crumped if that ever happened.
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: Let's just hope that doesn't.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: I remember here Ville Detroit to Pete Rosell gave Alex
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: Tarris and Paul Horney a year off. Yeah yeah, by
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: the time they did. Talk about two guys. I don't
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: care for them the whole thing, but we all know.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: Well, let's just first of all, let's just say this
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: about Pete Rosel. Pete Rosel and I got I got
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: in at the end of his career. He's the I believe,
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: the greatest commissioner in any sport of all time. I
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: mean he was he was good, I mean, he was
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: hard on the guys, but yet just a good guy
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: and he was sharp and he really kept the NFL clean,
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: you know it, you know so. And as far as
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: the other question, that one with the referees and all
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: that stuff, I mean, it's become a real hot topic
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: right now, that's for sure, you know. Uh. I can't
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: imagine that it got it gets to that deep of
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: a state, but I would hope not. I don't know
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: at all. I do know that there's bad calls, but
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: I think what's different is this got And believe me,
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: being a high school coach and a college coach, I
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: see this. I see this all the time. You go
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: to a high school game, now you go to a
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: college game or even a professional game, every time the
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: referee blows a whistle. Thirty years ago, nobody said a
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: word much. You know. Now, every time the whistle's blown
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: in any sport, people lose their minds. I mean they're losing,
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: They're coming out of the stands and they want to
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: fight the guy for crime a loine. I mean, what
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: am I doing. We've lost our minds in sports as fans.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: We have for the most part, and I'm not talking
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: about everybody. This small perspentages that ruin it for everybody else.
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: But but the argumentative in the discontent with a person's
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: call is outrageous. And even ten years ago, twenty years
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: ago in the NFL, there's been bad calls. There's always
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: gonna be bad calls. These are human beings blowing a whistle, right,
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: you know, how would you like to be a referee?
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: Think about it. Every time you blow the whistle, half
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: the people love you and the other half hate your guns,
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: you know. And it's sad really because when I played,
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: I got to know some of the referees, you know,
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: and they're really good guys. Now I don't know anybody
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  Speaker 2: that's reference there thirty years ago, but right, I mean
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  Speaker 2: they're good guys, you know, just earning a living and
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  Speaker 2: loved the sport. It is. There's just no way that
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  Speaker 2: they're looking at this thing and oh they're gonna with
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  Speaker 2: social media, we've just bloviated so much of this stuff
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  Speaker 2: and make it look so much worse than it probably
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  Speaker 2: really is. And then as soon as people start arguing,
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  Speaker 2: then everybody's jumping into the fire, you know, and it's
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  Speaker 2: gotten out a hand, to be honest, So now let's
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  Speaker 2: To be honest with you, Let's look in the mirror
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  Speaker 2: and stop complaining. You know that's just my two cents,
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  Speaker 1: You know I'm gonna ditto you on Roselle. Any guy
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  Speaker 1: that bold enough to suspend Yeah, Alice, Scars and Paul
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  Speaker 1: the better players hear who you are? Embarrassed the Shields.
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  Speaker 1: Problem with that great sholder night don As always, I
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  Speaker 1: Kay all right ton, you only one to have one
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  Speaker 2: Sure appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: So the first book that had come out and you know,
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  Speaker 2: Actually in the middle of casting it right now. I've
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  Speaker 1: I'm just glad I got my said friends eating one
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  Speaker 1: one of mine as well. But John, what can I say?
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  Speaker 1: It's always great having you want ed Tonight you're in
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  Speaker 1: and giving your opportunity. I don some good questions as well. Don,
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  Speaker 1: you're a great friend, but more importantly, you're a better person,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm just truly glad to be associated with a
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff that we talked about tonight,
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  Speaker 1: of good information and as Tommy Lessoura wants told, the
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  Speaker 1: knowledge is power and you'll get a lot of that
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  Speaker 1: from this show tonight. What super Bowl champion Don Beabie,
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  Speaker 1: the coach of We're Up University out Don. I can't
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  Speaker 1: thank you enough for once again doing this tonight and
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  Speaker 1: I look forward to having you on a later day.
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  Speaker 1: But more importantly, I'm looking forward to seeing you again
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  Speaker 1: So thank you very much for joining us on the
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  Speaker 2: You appreciate you having me on. Thanks, Thanks, Scott, appreciate
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  Speaker 1: That completes us to this Motor City man Mouth. As
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