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Making Monsters: Bears v Falcons Preview · 2nd City Gridiron

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, welcome back to another episode of Making Monsters.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm Taylor Dahl, Bryce Lewis joining me today.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He covers the Lana Hawks for believe network, but also covers the Lana Falcons.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, Bryce, thanks for hopping on and chatting some little bears.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Falcons football for this weekend.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, appreciate you, Taylor.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let me come on, do that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, big matchup for both teams.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, excited to kind of see how this goes down in the Atlanta on Sunday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's a lot of interesting storylines.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's also some overlap with players, obviously.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Javon Dexter, who was just recently traded to the Falcon.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll talk about that a little bit in a second.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to start with the quarterbacks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's going to be one of the bigger topics for this weekend.
0:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Both quarterbacks coming in, not playing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Caleb has not played since week two against the Vikings and Michael Pinnick's missing this last week, too.
0:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I guess two are having to come in for Michael Pinnick's.
0:51
[SPEAKER_00]: But it looks like both practice, both look like they're trending towards playing on Sunday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How much do you think that shifts
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[SPEAKER_00]: just the idea of what this match up looks like with both of those quarterbacks playing.
1:03
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, obviously, we know it's the showdown of both quarterbacks from the same draft class, you know, everybody likes to do comparisons and figure out who's the better one, who's the best one, who made the mistake, who made the right decision.
1:13
[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, for I think both teams, we know for the Falcon side of things, they know what Caleb Williams brings to the table, his ability just to be, you know, like, beanie back there in the backfield and create.
1:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, we'll see how he looks off the hamstring.
1:27
[SPEAKER_02]: You always have that concern.
1:28
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a tricky injury to deal with, and then for Michael, so far from everything I've heard, it seems like he's good to go from the rib injury that he has.
1:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Biggest thing is he's kind of been the main reason why the falcon's offense has been in it and began on track the last few weeks.
1:41
[SPEAKER_02]: But even last week, I mean, that's a game a lot of people felt like, you know, we just made a couple of throws there.
1:46
[SPEAKER_02]: We would have won that game.
1:48
[SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, overall, I think you can see that, you know, Panics is getting more comfortable,
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think for both sides, I think they understand there's a challenge on both ends and both quarterbacks present different challenges.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think we've both kind of helped each other.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So far this season, the bear is beating the Panthers pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You guys beating the Packers for us pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I think that's a little, and this changes this weekend.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So talk a little bit about Mike more about Michael Penis.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know it is rib injuries.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I feel like you always have a little bit of a concern there with throwing motion and some of the things, if you take some hits, things like that are a little bit of a concern.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But injury aside, what have you guys seen that you really like about Michael Penis and how he kind of leads this offense right now?
2:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I think first and foremost, the players have the utmost confidence in Michael, that's one of the first battles you have to win as a quarterback, especially starting for the back in this level, because I always say players are not always honest, even though they may can't say it to us directly, they're honest, they know if someone's like, all right, we got to do a little bit more to try to win this game or hey, I believe you know, depending on how to game goes, we can win and I think that's how they feel about Michael.
2:50
[SPEAKER_02]: I think from what he's done,
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so far, obviously, the first two games he came back, we had, you know, B. Jean was going crazy on the ground and Brian Robinson.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so, you know, Michael is just asked to kind of manage a little bit more and just make the throws when they're there and which he's done.
3:03
[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, in this past game against the Ravens, I felt like they kind of took the running game away from the Falcons a little bit and you kind of saw that maturation process of Michael hitting a lot of...
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[SPEAKER_02]: third downs, a lot of third and 15s, you know, because sometimes, you know, when you get into those long situations, you kind of feel like, all right, depending on your quarterback as all right, this is probably going to be a screen slam, you know, you're not, we're not trying to do this work.
3:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Michael, you feel like third and 15, they're in 17 with his arm, he can make those throws.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, I, I said this yesterday, I was like, you know,
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is a new offense.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's growing every week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's getting better every week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's why you're running off and says this offense is not hitting ceiling.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so for Michael, it's just continuing on that building on that obviously staying on the field is the most important part for him, but just continuing to do that because he was kind of started to make like some big throws against balls more last week.
3:50
[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, the bears, you know, have been a little shaky when it comes to past events.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I definitely could see this being a game where maybe the Falcons say, depending on how he's feeling from the rim of drift, we can go a little bit more past heavy lift Michael, to try to take advantage of some matchups in the secondary drink London obviously being his favorite target, and etc.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, I think Michael's done a good job.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, everybody has all eyes on him, can't even be the quarterback of the future and things of that nature.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But all the numbers are right now are trending well for him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm looking to see how he continues like I said, a bill off that this week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I will say going into this season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was personally really high on the Falcons.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I had the Falcons winning the division.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a big fan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, B. John's a big part of that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm kind of exiled it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Also, one of my dynasty quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I feel like there's a little extra ties.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you add some players like a Dragon Dexter who I think
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's fans loved it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was just more so of what felt like a fit and I'm glad that he's thriving there And we'll get into him like I said a little bit more But let's go through some more pieces of the offense that is working obviously Drake London You just mentioned those those deep yards and how Michael Pinnick's had to go deep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know down the field a little bit more that
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[SPEAKER_00]: Drake London's a big part of that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You guys have a jahondots and obviously who is a speedy guy and could do kind of some different stuff, be jons and all around weapon.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you can run the ball.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can use them in past catching.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Kyle Pizz, I think that people still probably expect a little bit more from Kyle Pizz, but you share your thoughts on that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Those past catchers in general and how they kind of all fit together in this offense right now.
5:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I think again, with Panics, also in this new offense, the receivers and new offense throughout last year, you saw that London and Panics already have that chemistry.
5:25
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's why, like, if you're a fan of this, you want to drink London, you're like, oh my god, Michael Panics, that I mean, drink London is not a good game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He trust him, he's just really good route runner, not the fastest guy, but he always seems to get open.
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[SPEAKER_02]: plays why receive it like a basketball player trying to block out on the post.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, he's just been a great receiver all around for them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And in terms of the other guys, you know, they've been getting a little bit more involved recently in the offense.
5:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Kyle Pitz also has been getting more involved because of touchdown last week.
5:50
[SPEAKER_02]: I know the first few weeks everybody shows up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, here we go again, but again, I think when you have so many weapons, it's like, you know, and everybody's not going to play up to the numbers, unless we're in like a shootout to the numbers like, you know, that you maybe want, especially first two games, when it was back, you ran football, that would be John.
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[SPEAKER_02]: didn't have to throw it at times.
6:09
[SPEAKER_02]: So like, you know, that's not going to potentially open itself up to all the guys having big numbers, but I think, you know, everybody has really been trending forward.
6:17
[SPEAKER_02]: I think they're going to try to get back to being more of a power running team this week, just to try to also keep Chicago's defense on the field, especially if Caleb's back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: give the offense less opportunities for Chicago.
6:26
[SPEAKER_02]: And then even somebody who found some fans and kind of waiting to take off a little bit in terms of his usage has been Zachariah Branch who are people from Georgia.
6:35
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a guy very fast for three speed.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If he gets out in space, he's a hard to cover, especially on crossing routes and anything that leaves him in one-on-one space.
6:42
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's something I think about the fans.
6:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe we want to see this week if they can dial him up a couple of times against the bare secondary.
6:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we totally understand when it comes to like the panic of times when it's like, oh my god, why isn't this person getting used or this person getting used?
6:56
[SPEAKER_00]: And you're like, look, I know there's been times and bear history and Falcon history where maybe you didn't have the amount of weapons you do right now and we at places to spread the ball even.
7:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Or is it cool to love London right now?
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[SPEAKER_00]: People are in full panic mode about cool to love and what I don't think they understand is that our backup left tackle.
7:11
[SPEAKER_00]: These are a lot of chip helps so they put most in and blocking situations a lot more than they did last year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When Aussie Chipilla comes back, I would guarantee you're going to see a lot more cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that just hasn't happened yet.
7:21
[SPEAKER_00]: So it happens when you have a guy that you want to see be getting the ball, especially some tight ends and how other teams use their tight ends at times.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think people hit the panic button a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But talk about your offensive line, how are they
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, offensive line is kind of been up and down at times.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think in terms of running the football this past game was not their best performance on the ground, but other games like that, they've been good.
7:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Really, you know, what it was concerned going into the season about the right tackle spot, what you want in Taylor and how he would look.
7:50
[SPEAKER_02]: He's actually been one of the best
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[SPEAKER_02]: right tackle, statistically in the league this year.
7:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Really, the issues been on the left side with Jake Matthews.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, we know Iron Man 200 games consecutively started.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We know about the Matthews family and that lineage.
8:01
[SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, again, the one of the heart things sometimes were a team is when you have a player who's been so consistent for so long, you just, you kind of forget about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, oh, okay, he'll be fine.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And now he's getting older.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's,
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[SPEAKER_02]: started to let up some, you know, he's getting beat a couple of times.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Some people are concerned, like, you know, okay, you know, is that an issue?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I luckily might as well have handed, so that's not his blind side.
8:23
[SPEAKER_02]: You can see it, but still it can be an issue.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, and then at that time, sometimes depending on how they perform the guards, Chris Lynch, and we know what he can do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Ryan knows.
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[SPEAKER_02]: was actually been one of the best centers in the league.
8:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Matthew Bergdron, I got that big contract.
8:36
[SPEAKER_02]: He's had some strong performances, but he's also had some moments where you key can be better.
8:40
[SPEAKER_02]: So I mean, that's going to be a big focus.
8:42
[SPEAKER_02]: I think this week for the Falcons is just making sure they can protect Michael.
8:45
[SPEAKER_02]: I think Michael got sack four times last week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So they definitely want to end, including like that last sack that injured him.
8:50
[SPEAKER_02]: So like, they're definitely going to probably prioritize making sure that they can protect him.
8:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't know if you maybe see B. John, even though he's a really good pass blocker, maybe he's in to kind of help or do some shipping
9:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's funny because so I work in Jacksonville, Sports Radio, so I cover the Jaguars and the Bears, and it's so funny how many Zacchaeus, Joanne Taylor, CJ Henderson, Mason Smith, and then obviously Javonne Dexter.
9:15
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of familiarity for me on this Balkans team of players that I've watched play for whether it be the Jags or the Bears.
9:22
[SPEAKER_00]: So talk about that running back room.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That Bryce, that's going to be, I think a big talking point this weekend for both teams, honestly.
9:30
[SPEAKER_00]: B. John, we all know what B. John can do, but Robinsen is a good running back to when you have two guys and kind of that one to punch it can be dangerous at times.
9:38
[SPEAKER_00]: The bears are up and down when it comes to the run defense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I will say it's better than last year last year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They were one of the worst in the league and it's gotten a little bit better.
9:45
[SPEAKER_00]: And I know if you're talking about that secondary and taking advantage, but I think getting that run game and maybe keeping the ball out of Caleb's hands and away from the bears is a little bit of the game plan too.
9:54
[SPEAKER_00]: So talk about that running back room and how impressed you are with them right now.
9:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, yeah, I mean, I think they did a really good job of just kind of finding guys who fit each other.
10:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Like we had tell us your last year.
10:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Biggest thing for him is he wanted a bigger role, which means also normal.
10:07
[SPEAKER_02]: And obviously, they weren't going to pay him starting a level running back money to be a backup to be shot.
10:13
[SPEAKER_02]: So they had to find a guy who also could kind of provide something that Tyler kind of probably wishes more for power back and Brian Robinson's in a great job of kind of coming in here and kind of again coming from his background what happened with the commanders and and even the 49ers before he came to us just kind of showing that hey you can still kind of carry the low they feel like they can give them a lot of carries because I've always said NFL teams usually run the ball I would say on total 20 to 30 times again.
10:36
[SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, the Falcons feel comfortable, they can run it 40 plus times again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So then, B. Jacques is 20 carries.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And Brian Robinson gets 14, 15 carries, and et cetera, et cetera, and then whoever else.
10:46
[SPEAKER_02]: And so, you know, he's been great for us this season, especially in the gold line.
10:50
[SPEAKER_02]: And then, like I said, B. Jacques, we,
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[SPEAKER_02]: that what you can do.
10:53
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, his ability to cut, make people miss, he always has a play a game where you're just like, he is ridiculous.
10:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know, in an extra defense, that's why they key in on him because it's like literally us being in one on one with him is the worst case situation because he'll make a move and you're just like, I don't know what you want me to do coach.
11:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I tried to do it, but he just he just made it.
11:13
[SPEAKER_02]: That was just so, so, so good.
11:15
[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, I think that's going to be like I said something on this week, something to eat on this week and I think that, you know, the bears have to get ready for that because that's something, you know, they're going to try to do it to also open up the play action game.
11:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, it's you guys confused the fantasy world even more with that Brian Robinson, because I remember the year before everyone was like somebody drafted Brian instead of be John and another book on the team, so people had a really think about that when they were hitting the select for B Robinson on their fantasy teams, but let's flip over to the defensive side of the ball.
11:47
[SPEAKER_00]: I mentioned several names, especially at front.
11:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Mason Smith, Javonne Dexter, a lot of newness up front, even kind of in that lineback room right now is the various Smith dealing with the concussion.
11:56
[SPEAKER_00]: So, not sure if he'll be playing this weekend, so talk a little bit about that front, the past rush, what they do against the run, what are their strengths, what are their weaknesses up there and how much does the dairy is not possibly not playing affect that.
12:08
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, so, I mean, you know, coming into the season, you know, losing Jalen Walker for the year to ACL and James Pistachian, we obviously know about this suspension, you know, a lot of people at questions, like, could they get pressure?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Could they, are they going to be a good decline in general?
12:21
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think they've exceeded expectations by a lot for a lot of people.
12:25
[SPEAKER_02]: I think, you know, I think Garbin is first in the league and interior pressure.
12:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, so clearly he's made it a very big impact.
12:34
[SPEAKER_02]: It is making the extension we gave him very work.
12:36
[SPEAKER_02]: It makes it Smith.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I believe also is like playing really, really well.
12:41
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's been really good at getting into your pressure.
12:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and then Brandon Dorless, who saw people don't know about, we had a eight sax force last year.
12:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Guy, we drafted for Morgan.
12:48
[SPEAKER_02]: He's been great.
12:49
[SPEAKER_02]: So in terms of our interior, you know, defensive line, that's probably
12:53
[SPEAKER_02]: kind of the strength of our defensive line just in terms of production and what they've been able to do.
12:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Now on the edges, you know, that's obviously been a bit of a, you know, a turn-style like I said some of the stuff I mentioned, but as an areas I believe practice yesterday, I, before this, I did not check if he practiced today.
13:08
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm assuming if he's doing that, I mean, he's trading towards playing, he's kind of, aren't you?
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[SPEAKER_02]: best-pass Russia as of right now, but even other guys, on some heroes like Cameron Thomas, we got from who played in Cleveland, Arizona.
13:19
[SPEAKER_02]: He's been playing well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of energy, bigger role this year.
13:22
[SPEAKER_02]: He's been good for us.
13:23
[SPEAKER_02]: We've had to elevate some guys like Braille and Trice.
13:25
[SPEAKER_02]: We've drafted a couple of years ago to give us some production, just a bunch of other guys who, for the most part,
13:33
[SPEAKER_02]: part we we have been really good at getting close to the quarterback.
13:37
[SPEAKER_02]: We can do a little bit better at finishing plays for sure and obviously even your playing guys like Tyler Huntley, Caleb Williams guys we can move it's always a little bit harder just because they can create a little bit more but overall I think you know that's been a very big strength is kind of been the
13:53
[SPEAKER_02]: We can still ravens their Henry had a pretty good game against this, you know, he'll had a good game against us.
13:57
[SPEAKER_02]: They were able to have some success on the ground So that's something I'm sure those guys are trying to, you know, try to figure out how can we do a better job of holding our blocks or getting in the lane So looking up for your upper light backers or we could even stop the run in the back field this week So the Andre's look is not as slouch as we know so Overall, I think the deal on has has been good so far.
14:14
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's just about, you know Getting zedaries.
14:16
[SPEAKER_02]: We big just for depth and then also getting just that our like our right now our star pass rush your back
14:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's actually really incredible what Derek Henry is still doing.
14:25
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's just, it feels like he doesn't stop and a good for him.
14:28
[SPEAKER_00]: He's from right outside of Jacksonville.
14:30
[SPEAKER_00]: So we got to watch him in high school and he's just been that sense high school.
14:34
[SPEAKER_00]: But when you talk about your secondary, I'm a Notre Dame fan Xavier Watts.
14:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted the bears to draft so bad.
14:40
[SPEAKER_00]: I was screaming it before the draft.
14:42
[SPEAKER_00]: I he was one of my obviously being a Notre Dame fan.
14:44
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a little biased, but I think he's showed why he has placed in what place he deserves to be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the NFL.
14:50
[SPEAKER_00]: So try to about that secondary a little bit.
14:51
[SPEAKER_00]: I know Xavier Watts obviously Jesse Bates and I mentioned CJ Henderson being kind of a piece of that group back there, but overall how are they looking so far.
15:00
[SPEAKER_02]: It's funny because I think a lot of people when I have to talk to people on opposing teams, a lot of people think okay about conceded areas food.
15:06
[SPEAKER_02]: So, statistically, that does look that way, but I think there's different reasons for that.
15:09
[SPEAKER_02]: I think, you know, in terms of savings, I think we have a really good saving core.
15:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Jesse Bates maybe isn't the player he was three years ago, but he's still a good starting safety in the lead.
15:16
[SPEAKER_02]: We know Xavier Watts looks like he's in the future of that secondary at the safety position.
15:20
[SPEAKER_02]: Those two, I've never really been too worried about.
15:22
[SPEAKER_02]: It's really been the corner bend position, we have some injuries right now.
15:25
[SPEAKER_02]: AJ Trell is not playing right now, he's on IR, hopefully we'll get him back in a
15:29
[SPEAKER_02]: CJ Henderson, when I was the last game growing injury, he, when he's played, he's been really good.
15:36
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15:53
[SPEAKER_02]: in the same set or avioncer, L. A. J. Terrell's brother.
15:56
[SPEAKER_02]: He's been really good for us.
15:57
[SPEAKER_02]: I would like the Falcons to kind of play him a little bit better.
15:59
[SPEAKER_02]: He has been really good at a Clemson when he's been able to play inside and outside corner for us.
16:04
[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, just statistically, when teams don't really throw at him a lot.
16:07
[SPEAKER_02]: So like, I mean, clearly he's doing something right.
16:09
[SPEAKER_02]: He's usually when it really comes to the game you're thinking, attack the target out.
16:13
[SPEAKER_02]: They're not attacking them, so he's doing something, right?
16:16
[SPEAKER_02]: And then Mike Hughes has kind of been the most questionable corner.
16:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Baltimore last week, very much target Mike Hughes.
16:22
[SPEAKER_02]: He is the weakest of that Falcon secondary.
16:24
[SPEAKER_02]: And obviously Jeff Olberg's going to come out in front of coordinator and say we have a lot of most confidence in him.
16:28
[SPEAKER_02]: But I think this may be a week where, especially if CJ's out here,
16:33
[SPEAKER_02]: You're definitely going to have to make some decisions how much help do we give him?
16:36
[SPEAKER_02]: I think, you know, some people get drove crazy when their team plays like soft coverage, but, you know, we do play a little bit more soft with him and teams kind of take advantage out of curl around out, routes, things like that nature.
16:45
[SPEAKER_02]: So, he's definitely, I expect Chicago to target him no matter who's at quarterback this week and he has to step up to the challenge.
16:53
[SPEAKER_02]: But even if we're our nickel corners, like Billy Bowman, he got back a couple of games to go.
16:57
[SPEAKER_02]: He's been really good for us second year.
16:59
[SPEAKER_02]: rookie out of Oklahoma and city brown who we got from Philadelphia over the obviously, and he's been a good addition as well.
17:05
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's almost like in terms of the players we have, I think we're in good shape.
17:09
[SPEAKER_02]: I just think, you know, we play a little bit more soft than a lot of teams do and then on the same top we have a guy like I said, my teams do end up targeting but overall they've done a pretty decent job this year with what they've kind of had to work with.
17:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it'll be interesting this weekend, Bryce with the bears because you mentioned earlier, the second area has already been exposed in some certain moments and other moments, it feels like, you know, going to get to take away and kind of save some momentum if a team is driving.
17:38
[SPEAKER_00]: But it does feel a little scary, obviously.
17:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Montez, what suspended for a couple games, Diamond and Bo gets hurt last week.
17:46
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure if he'll be playing or not.
17:48
[SPEAKER_00]: So they had to activate Schmarterner, who is a second year who barely played last year because he got hurt.
17:53
[SPEAKER_00]: And then Austin Booker, who I am, a fan of.
17:55
[SPEAKER_00]: But so you have,
17:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Virtually two new ends playing this weekend.
18:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Grady Jared, who you guys are familiar with there, obviously who's had to rebound season from last year, but there's just a lot of ifs because of injury.
18:07
[SPEAKER_00]: They go sign Kobe Bryant in the off season.
18:09
[SPEAKER_00]: That was supposed to be the big help back there in the secondary and Kobe's missing the whole entire season.
18:14
[SPEAKER_00]: And you have a rookie safety don't think him and who's been playing well, but rookies have rookie moments sometimes And so there's a lot of things that just seem like they're trending in the wrong direction for the bears unfortunately due to injuries and other things But didn't a salad and I feel like is good at scheming and you guys are also familiar with him when it comes to being a defensive coordinator Hannah had coach for the Saints, but
18:33
[SPEAKER_00]: He's good at scheming up things when he, you know, when you have to absolutely get pressure from blitzes or whatever he may do, so it'll be fascinating this weekend what he tries to scheme up, but what are you guys talking about in reverse from the Falcons perspective of this defense is it like you said, do you think the lean and the panics trying to take some shots just to try and take advantage of that those guys back deep.
18:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, you know, you're saying, I think it's perfect for options.
18:58
[SPEAKER_02]: I think they're going to try to run the football, try to fix them to pressure off the passing game if you can.
19:02
[SPEAKER_02]: I think there are shots to be had against the Bayer secondary and I think they know that.
19:06
[SPEAKER_02]: But I think Tommy Reese, and he maybe he'll tell you to like he didn't call the greatest game last week.
19:12
[SPEAKER_02]: And
19:13
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's definitely going to want to try to make up for that this week.
19:16
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think, you know, it's just like, I'm getting your best guys involved attacking the matchups that you have.
19:21
[SPEAKER_02]: I do like the fact that Patez has been getting more involved recently.
19:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Because he's like, he's, you could guy, you consider mismatch in most games, because you're just like, okay, just Chicago have someone who can actually guard him one or one.
19:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe that's, you know, we have to share you of the rookie safety.
19:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe that's when the file comes to maybe try to attack that more with more of a cow.
19:37
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's or even a beach.
19:38
[SPEAKER_02]: And I know they want to use B job more than receiving game at some point.
19:43
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's going to be interesting kind of just see how they kind of come out in this game, because like I said, with the rib injury with Michael, you know, you want to have a heavier pass attack, even though maybe the statistics and the numbers and the film says that maybe more than official, based off what you saw even when we could go against one of the bears playing Green Bay.
20:01
[SPEAKER_02]: So, um, I feel like overall the Falcons feel like they can do two things.
20:07
[SPEAKER_02]: They can run and pass.
20:08
[SPEAKER_02]: It just kind of goes to the flow of the game.
20:10
[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, if
20:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Caleb comes back and they start scoring points and obviously we know we're gonna shift more pass mode But if they can play the game, they want to play.
20:18
[SPEAKER_02]: It'll be more of a run ball control attack and then take your shots when they're there
20:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, which could quite possibly be what Chicago's plan is this weekend, you know, Swift was kind of banged up, but non-guys still out.
20:31
[SPEAKER_00]: So if he's not there that does hurt our run game quite a bit, but you Swift is good enough to get you through a couple of games without the non-guys.
20:38
[SPEAKER_00]: So final question before I let you go flipping to that, the past catchers, the offense of the bears in general.
20:45
[SPEAKER_00]: They're offensive line as I mentioned outside of left tackle, the rest of them are playing out of their minds and the rest of the lines really good.
20:50
[SPEAKER_00]: They're good at protecting and give them quarterbacks some time.
20:53
[SPEAKER_00]: The run game is a huge part of Bin Johnson's offense and so run blocking has been really good for the most part throughout this season and a lot of weapons I mentioned that maybe underperforming to an extent, but you also haven't had your quarterbacks since week two so that probably factors into it a little bit But who are the what's the the mindset of those past catchers and who you feel like you have to worry about the most this weekend?
21:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Um You know
21:20
[SPEAKER_02]: Honestly, I honestly want to go with LeBlanc just because it's like, like you said, he's kind of been used more chipping from protecting blocking and things of that nature.
21:28
[SPEAKER_02]: And you can have, I think we're better suited to defend tight ends this year, but we haven't really been tested.
21:35
[SPEAKER_02]: And listen, if you ask,
21:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Ravens fans from a week ago, they're going to probably be like, oh, if Mark Andrews didn't drop a couple passes, we're probably having a lot of success.
21:46
[SPEAKER_02]: But if we had to kind of give someone from the receivers, Chicago, maybe maybe Rome.
21:54
[SPEAKER_02]: obviously has history with Michael or Burton as well.
21:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Those two are the two guys I think for sure because it really I could see the bears definitely trying to put both of them wherever my queues is see if we can get him mixed up maybe motion them a little bit see if they can try the you know you take it bandage of like I said kind of a weak point of the falcon secondary in that regard
22:14
[SPEAKER_02]: And so, because that's what I've noticed some teams have done.
22:16
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, Packers did it with Golden and Watson.
22:18
[SPEAKER_02]: They would try to kind of, okay, where my Qs is, let's see if we can get them lined up on him and see if we can take advantage of that matchup.
22:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Because, like I said, everybody else is pretty much been in solid.
22:27
[SPEAKER_02]: So, that would probably be my main concern from that perspective.
22:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and then there are times where like our savings would cheat up a little bit.
22:35
[SPEAKER_02]: So we've had some blown coverages.
22:37
[SPEAKER_02]: That is something like in the Saints game.
22:39
[SPEAKER_02]: We kind of cleaned up against Balls more than the Saints game.
22:41
[SPEAKER_02]: We definitely had some blown coverages.
22:42
[SPEAKER_02]: So I mean, we know Chicago when Caleb gets back there every receiver elevates, um, you know, even Clevver Raymond.
22:49
[SPEAKER_02]: He may be able to make a play here.
22:51
[SPEAKER_02]: And they're so like, you know, that's the thing about the bears is when you have a guy like Caleb Williams, any receiver that you have probably
22:59
[SPEAKER_02]: He's not like on focus on one guy.
23:01
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just, hey, if someone's open, I'm trying to throw the ball to make a play.
23:05
[SPEAKER_02]: And the Republicans have to be ready for that, because they may have to defend longer on certain plays than, you know, the normal two three seconds a quarterback or a pocket quarter, or a back what usually try to play in.
23:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, talk about two guys that could make some plays happen with Michael Panics and Roma Dunes in college.
23:21
[SPEAKER_00]: They were really fun to watch together.
23:22
[SPEAKER_00]: And that was one of the reasons I was super excited to draft Rome because it college, he had the highest contested catch rate.
23:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Michael Panics were just kind of put it up and Rome would catch it.
23:30
[SPEAKER_00]: And Rome's had some issues this year.
23:31
[SPEAKER_00]: He's had some drops.
23:32
[SPEAKER_00]: And some bear spans are getting frustrated with them.
23:35
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just settled in a little bit.
23:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes those yips come and if you're a true star, which I do think Rome can be, it can settle down a little bit.
23:42
[SPEAKER_00]: But Bryce, I really appreciate your time.
23:44
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm heading up to Atlanta.
23:45
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to the game this weekend.
23:46
[SPEAKER_00]: So excited to head up there and watch the game this weekend.
23:49
[SPEAKER_00]: But I appreciate you chatting with me.
23:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, for sure.
23:51
[SPEAKER_02]: I appreciate you letting me come on.
23:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, I will go back to another episode of Making Monsters.
23:56
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm Taylor Doll.
23:56
[SPEAKER_00]: You know Jacob and Fonti.
23:58
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to head and talk about the bear side of the football.
24:00
[SPEAKER_00]: We just talked about the Falcon side with Bryce Lewis.
24:04
[SPEAKER_00]: You have a new role.
24:05
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess I don't think I've talked to you since you've had this director of media partnerships that profile on that work.
24:10
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's really cool.
24:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Congratulations on that.
24:12
[SPEAKER_00]: I know it's been something that well deserved for you.
24:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Jacob.
24:15
[SPEAKER_00]: So congratulations.
24:16
[SPEAKER_00]: And then obviously if you don't know Jacob, he covers the bears and the draft for Wendy city grid iron also and so I think the draft talk I talked to you a lot during the year because I think that there's a lot.
24:26
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm always asking you questions on which safety here, which this as I'm starting to do some of my research.
24:32
[SPEAKER_00]: So even we'll get him maybe even to some of that stuff with the Dylan Thinham and Emily Mohammed and how they've been playing as we.
24:39
[SPEAKER_00]: preview this game this weekend.
24:40
[SPEAKER_00]: And so I think the big topics that we should start with Jacob is the quarterbacks on both sides of the ball right now.
24:47
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll start with Caleb Williams.
24:48
[SPEAKER_00]: He just spoke to media.
24:49
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm recording we're recording this on Thursday at 430, but I will be posting this Friday morning.
24:54
[SPEAKER_00]: So as we're talking about Caleb, he kind of he had a presser.
24:59
[SPEAKER_00]: He was a little bit a little.
25:01
[SPEAKER_00]: a little sassy fiery with some of the media and I feel like given so I mean it sounds like from what he was saying there was some false reporting on his injury we know what that led into a lot of stuff and jokes and things being said about Caleb Williams for the last few weeks one thing about Caleb as he doesn't care about those things if anything he throws those people but it did sound he used the word tear he said his hamstring he did tear his hamstring but he wouldn't say
25:26
[SPEAKER_00]: it was and he said that the media didn't deserve to know that because they reported everything that they should, you know, that false information.
25:32
[SPEAKER_00]: So does sound like a tear, but the good part is Jacob that he was a full participant today.
25:38
[SPEAKER_00]: So how are you feeling about that?
25:39
[SPEAKER_00]: And if he does play how confident are you with that hamstring that it's going, he'll be able to play at the level we need to play on on Sunday.
25:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I feel I do feel pretty confident, especially after he's been a full participant for each of the last two weeks.
25:55
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, all things considered you're looking at a Wednesday full participant Thursday full participant.
26:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Usually Friday is the one where it really matters and, but I feel like, you know, if you've practiced in full the last two games two days.
26:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you're realistically, you're probably going to practice and full unless something, you know, aggravates or whatever.
26:12
[SPEAKER_01]: But in the grand scheme of things, it looks really good for Caleb to come back.
26:18
[SPEAKER_01]: obviously massive for the bears coming off the performance, you know, against the packers where the passing attack was a weakness, you know, the entire day.
26:26
[SPEAKER_01]: And you can say what you want, there's a lot to critique about the way that the bears performed on defense.
26:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I think of what's secular, how they defended the deep ball or how they failed to do so.
26:36
[SPEAKER_01]: I really, you know, that's a concern for me.
26:39
[SPEAKER_01]: going into this particular matchup, but on offense, and that which has always been the expectation.
26:44
[SPEAKER_01]: This is going to be a team who successes dictated by a strong offense.
26:49
[SPEAKER_01]: And when Caleb Williams had been the quarterback of the Bears more often than not, they have a strong offense.
26:54
[SPEAKER_01]: So I saw he had a he had a quote or something during the press conference where he said that he recently hit like he's able to hit top speed.
27:04
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, now in this stage of his hamstring recovery is one of his top speeds he's ever recorded, so which by the way, for Caleb's like 23 miles per hour.
27:12
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, yeah, we don't we we always, you know, tend to we always look at the highlight throws we tend to forget like, okay, he's really, really fast.
27:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Which is, you know, just nuts that that's, you know, such an underrated aspect of his game, but yeah, I mean, I feel pretty good about it and him all things considered.
27:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like obviously the, you know, the sack avoidance, the creativity outside of structure.
27:36
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a big element of his game.
27:38
[SPEAKER_01]: So, but even if he is for, you know, a step slower when the game actually hits, I feel like he's a quick processor in that regard.
27:46
[SPEAKER_01]: So the point where he knows when to abandon the pocket, he knows when to climb the pocket, he knows when to scramble outside.
27:52
[SPEAKER_01]: And the internal clock is pretty strong with him.
27:56
[SPEAKER_01]: So all things considered I feel pretty good about him going into this particular matchup.
28:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Jacob, and one of the things we've saw progress so much with Caleb and this is late last season, but especially when he was healthy in the panther's game and even the beginning of that Vikings game is when it comes to we've talked about the pocket presence and some of the things he can do in escape ability, but being able to take the check down and make some of those quick throws when he needs to we've seen and crease and him be able to do that, which I think can help in a game like this if you do feel.
28:25
[SPEAKER_00]: if you do feel like you don't want to move as much as you don't want to move as much as maybe or you don't want him to move as much as maybe he usually does.
28:37
[SPEAKER_00]: He has gotten really good at making those quick decisions and getting the ball out and using the checkdowns when he needs to.
28:43
[SPEAKER_01]: 100%.
28:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I feel like the the processing has sped up tremendously compared to his rookie year.
28:49
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, especially in the second half of last season, it was really impressive just to see but how much more comfortable he looked, evading pressure, sensing, whether it's from the backside or, you know, it come and write at him from the right side, which it immediately doesn't happen very often when you have don't know right at right tackle.
29:07
[SPEAKER_01]: But if pressure does come in from the left side,
29:12
[SPEAKER_01]: situational awareness, the internal clock to know, all right.
29:15
[SPEAKER_01]: This is how I'm going to evade these defenders.
29:18
[SPEAKER_01]: This is how I'm going to hold on.
29:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he loves the camera.
29:23
[SPEAKER_01]: He loves it.
29:24
[SPEAKER_00]: He wants to say it.
29:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
29:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
29:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
29:27
[SPEAKER_01]: He's he's just as passionate about Katelyn Williams
29:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, all things considered from a mental standpoint, he's improved leaps and bounds compared to what we saw his rookie year under Maddie Refluson with Shane Waldron and Thomas Brown as the offensive coordinators.
29:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I do, I'm interested to see if he can build off that week one where his coat work looked a lot better, he was playing a lot more on time because that, you know, natural natural sense of accuracy is good.
29:56
[SPEAKER_01]: with him, obviously the arm talents phenomenal, the creativity's phenomenal, but there were some instances who's a little skittish at the top of his drop-back last year, and there are some instances, okay, maybe he's getting the ball out, a split second to late, maybe he's holding onto the ball, a split second to long, and in an intricate offense, like Ben Johnson's, you know, that, you know, that, you know, being, you know,
30:15
[SPEAKER_01]: on time can make all the difference.
30:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
30:18
[SPEAKER_01]: And we've really saw that in week one against Carolina.
30:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Week two, I'm almost tempted to throw out for both teams, where it's like, okay, I don't want to judge the Vikings offense too much by the fact that they only scored nine points because it was in the rain and you know, along the lake front and soldier field, but I don't want to do that with the bears either.
30:38
[SPEAKER_01]: So
30:39
[SPEAKER_01]: I still have a lot of optimism about his ability to play on time going into this match against the Falcons.
30:45
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we'll wait and see because obviously this here, there's such a small sample size with Caleb, but ultimately I'm pretty confident that we're going to see a good performance.
30:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I saw a stat yesterday that said that the bears when it comes to like third and I think it was like third and four to six.
31:03
[SPEAKER_00]: They have one of the highest completion percent rated or conversion rate ratings and that it's like over 60% they convert when they're at a third and like four to six yards.
31:12
[SPEAKER_00]: But with it's third and three or less, they're one of the worst teams in the NFL and it's like 42% or something like that conversion rate.
31:19
[SPEAKER_00]: So I went through and I was looking at the numbers because I was like,
31:21
[SPEAKER_00]: How much of that is Caleb, case and Tyson and the difference between that and Caleb was five for eight and third and three in shorts when he was at quarterback and then case was four for eight and uh, pageant was four for twelve.
31:33
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think that pageant time at quarterback skews that a lot we've seen them kind of struggle in the red zone two um with maybe all of the quarterbacks but I do think obviously in that second half of the Panthers game you saw them Caleb and them get more comfortable
31:46
[SPEAKER_00]: in the red zone and doing something.
31:47
[SPEAKER_00]: So it would be interesting with that to Jacob and how much the run game factors in because that's the next thing about this.
31:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Come and on guy did not participate both days so far the Wednesday walk through and then today he was a DMP.
32:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Swift was not on it though which I was a little surprised about because all I was hearing after the game on Sunday was he was like on a pitch count because he's been dealing with the hip and a knee and then he's not on the injury report.
32:11
[SPEAKER_00]: But
32:11
[SPEAKER_00]: How do you feel the run game can do it?
32:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's say Swift has helped him and now guys not.
32:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Can you get through this week and be able to still count on that?
32:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I feel like you can still rely on Swift to be a true bell cow back.
32:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, granted, you might have to throw the ball a little bit more because I don't think that Rochon Johnson at this stage is a particularly efficient running back.
32:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
32:32
[SPEAKER_01]: He's capable on special teams, but you know, and that's what ultimately why he's on the team.
32:36
[SPEAKER_01]: But
32:37
[SPEAKER_01]: on offense, the efficiency just hasn't been there from processing perspective, from just an overall athleticism perspective.
32:44
[SPEAKER_01]: So you're going to have to rely heavily on Swift, which I think is fine.
32:49
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just in general, you might see a little bit more of a passive approach without men on guy, because obviously like he's such a, you know, he's a key part of this offense and having those that backfield tandem, you know, the, you know, the
33:03
[SPEAKER_01]: lightning and thunder, sonic and knuckles, whatever you want to call the bear's version of it.
33:10
[SPEAKER_01]: It's very valuable to have two efficient running backs who can just wear down the defense.
33:15
[SPEAKER_01]: And when you don't have the monungai, obviously there's going to be a lot more on Swiss plate.
33:20
[SPEAKER_01]: I think you'll be solid in that role.
33:22
[SPEAKER_01]: And I still feel like you'll put up some solid numbers.
33:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously with a heavy workload and the, you know, the efficiency should still be solid behind that offensive line.
33:31
[SPEAKER_01]: But I do think that maybe you see a little bit more airing it out relatively speaking compared to what you usually see with the bear's offense.
33:40
[SPEAKER_00]: which I just talked to like I said Bryce Lewis who covers the Falcons and one of the things he mentioned is Mike Hughes, one of their cornerbacks has been a massive liability through the beginning of the year.
33:51
[SPEAKER_00]: He said that's kind of they've seen a lot of teams kind of pick on him at times so that's something that you'd probably expect to see this weekend is pick that side of the field but in addition to that CJ Henderson's on their injury report and he's the corner opposite of that.
34:04
[SPEAKER_00]: So there's a potential that you have one corner that really
34:09
[SPEAKER_00]: And there are other the corner that's been playing well and CJ Henderson may not be playing or is not 100% so I do think to that point it benefits it the offense a little bit, especially with the weapons that the bears have and I don't know if we've even utilized them to full potential at this point in time they also haven't seen a tight end like.
34:27
[SPEAKER_00]: a tight end room like the bears have and I know a lot of people are kind of disappointed in how the lack of post and loveland has been used.
34:33
[SPEAKER_00]: He's been blocking his butt off.
34:35
[SPEAKER_00]: I know people want him to catch the ball though so that's part of it but maybe you see a little bit more of that this weekend and I don't quite know how they have a plan to cover all of those especially if CJ Henderson is not playing.
34:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I feel like in particular, if you're weak at corner, that's really going to play into the bear's hand where I feel like especially with Caleb at quarterback Ben Johnson loves to attack the intermediate passing game, whether it's just like just short of the sticks or just beyond the sticks, I mean usually like hit usually Caleb's average depth of target is
35:06
[SPEAKER_01]: larger than most quarterbacks across the NFL and that says a lot to Ben Johnson's trust in him.
35:13
[SPEAKER_01]: The ability to stretch the field and hit those slightly more difficult throws.
35:17
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like having, you know, the Falcons haven't abandoned a corner back room, plays very well into that because the Falcons still have a good safety tandem.
35:27
[SPEAKER_01]: All things considered, but that corner back room, like you mentioned, is definitely a bit weaker right now.
35:34
[SPEAKER_01]: having like Luther bread and Roman dunes, or, you know, coast to the level and across the middle of the field, you know, maybe they get cleaframed and bulbs again to the same extent we saw the first couple weeks of the season.
35:44
[SPEAKER_01]: They're really a lot of different possibilities as far as what that could look like for Chicago.
35:50
[SPEAKER_01]: So ultimately, I really do trust the bears offensive philosophy if it sticks to what we've seen with
35:59
[SPEAKER_01]: We, you know, with Caleb at quarterback for last year and the start of this season, if they keep at similar game plan, I feel like that game plan boats very well into what the Falcons current weaknesses are.
36:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so the first couple of weeks we saw some rough moments from Garrett Bradbury, including penalties, you know, several penalties within that time.
36:22
[SPEAKER_00]: You just kind of felt like guys were pushing them back up in the middle.
36:25
[SPEAKER_00]: You've seen, at least from what I've seen, that kind of settled down a little bit and then look a little bit more comfortable there at center.
36:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Have you seen that, too?
36:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I have, I mean, I think that Brad Berry was never going to be like a super high ceiling edition at center.
36:42
[SPEAKER_01]: It's more so, all right, we want to have a stop gap guy, somebody with veteran experience who can start in a pinch right away after the Drew Dalman retirement and then as we develop Logan Jones, which based off of what we saw in the preseason, I wouldn't necessarily say Jones has ready to start.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, having Brad Barry's been very helpful, I think he's been up and down so far this year, definitely not as consistent, as Dalman in past protection or as a run blocker for that matter, but I feel like, obviously, the, you know, the penalties of,
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[SPEAKER_01]: been cut down, which is huge.
37:15
[SPEAKER_01]: He's still even, you know, having been in the lead for a while, he's still a good mover.
37:19
[SPEAKER_01]: He's still a good athlete.
37:21
[SPEAKER_01]: His ability to block on the move matches well with the kind of outside zone approach, the outside zone, why zone approach that the bears have in the run game.
37:31
[SPEAKER_01]: and you really need an offensive line that's agile and guys that can block on the move with good coordination.
37:36
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Bradbury could do that.
37:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Even if he isn't the biggest or strongest in a vacuum, he still brings, he's still a good scheme fit.
37:43
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just the ceiling isn't necessarily as high as Dalman.
37:46
[SPEAKER_01]: So,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've liked what I've seen from Brad Berry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's been a little up and down all things considered and it's definitely a downgrade from what we have from Dalman.
37:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I used we, whatever.
37:57
[SPEAKER_01]: The bears saw from Drew Dalman last year, but you could do worse than Brad Berry at Center.
38:03
[SPEAKER_01]: It's generally, in my opinion, a middle of the road option is he the guy that you want to be starting long-term, maybe not necessarily, but in the short-term, it's fine at the end of the
38:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I asked because we obviously have a ton of confidence in Jonah Jackson and Joe Tuney.
38:23
[SPEAKER_00]: And you go against what feels like as I was talking to Bryce Lewis that he feels like their strength is, they run a 34.
38:31
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's those guys up front.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They get a lot of interior pressure.
38:34
[SPEAKER_00]: He was saying, and so Javon Dexter, old friend of Chicago Bears, one of those guys Mason Smith, who the jacks traded for Rook, Rook, Rook, Rook, back in April too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So,
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[SPEAKER_00]: two new additions to their defensive line, but seems like it's helped him a lot in getting those pressures from the interior.
38:49
[SPEAKER_00]: So like I said, you're confident in those guards.
38:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you confident in a Bradbury this weekend in front of Caleb to be able to hold up against those guys?
38:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I think so and honestly a lot of it comes down to like you said the guards that are around him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like Dr.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Von Dexter, Mason Smith, you have in the mix as well, Brandon Dorless, who's been performing at a high level, you're not going to see a ton of one-on-one reps with him for Brad Berry, you're going to see a decent amount of guard help with tuning and Jackson taking on those guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I will say as an aside, I think that Dr.
39:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Von Dexter,
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a much better fit in the three four system than he is in a four three.
39:36
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like he's really getting the chance to shine and Atlanta.
39:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm happy for him.
39:41
[SPEAKER_01]: He got his payday.
39:42
[SPEAKER_01]: He's playing in a very high level right now.
39:44
[SPEAKER_01]: He deserves the praise that he's been getting.
39:47
[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't have a ton of worry with Brad Barry.
39:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, sure, there might be some instances where he gives up a rapper to and it doesn't look pretty, but
39:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not entirely panic, regardless of who's at center because of how good both of their guards are specifically Jonah Jackson's been phenomenal this year.
40:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Tony has been good still for sure, but Jackson, I feel like has been playing at a very high level.
40:13
[SPEAKER_01]: uh... probal borderline all pro in my opinion so see in the displacement he generates at the point of the tack both in the run game and his ability to absorb power and pass protection he's been for is been fantastic to watch so i don't have a ton of i don't have a ton of concern in breadberry maybe a little bit because that atlanta defensive line does look pretty good along the interior but
40:36
[SPEAKER_01]: At the end of the day, I'm worried about it to an extent, but I'm not panicking about it at all.
40:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
40:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, what a win for Ryan Polls on that one.
40:44
[SPEAKER_00]: It was the sixth round pick, right?
40:45
[SPEAKER_00]: For Jonah Jackson.
40:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was the sixth round pick and they extended him right away after and everybody was like, you know, myself included.
40:55
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like you really want to extend him after that one year he had with the Rams.
40:58
[SPEAKER_01]: It ended up working out.
40:59
[SPEAKER_01]: So, I mean, you know, score one for Ryan Polls.
41:04
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, Jacob, let's flip over to the defensive side of the ball.
41:07
[SPEAKER_00]: This is the side that's a little scary.
41:09
[SPEAKER_00]: It was already a little scary.
41:11
[SPEAKER_00]: It got a little scarier.
41:13
[SPEAKER_00]: I think when you're talking about Montes wet, to the M suspension, Diodango, another DMP for today.
41:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Schmarturner.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He is, you know, he's activated from Pub.
41:24
[SPEAKER_00]: So you have that hope that he can come in.
41:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Problem is last year, they used a more defensive tackle on the limited reps he did have in his rookie season.
41:31
[SPEAKER_00]: And so that's going to be interesting how they do things, but it kind of seems like it's going to be Shamar and but a lot of Shamar and Booker.
41:37
[SPEAKER_00]: And you kind of hope that they can hold their own and and those guys on the interior can help them add a little bit.
41:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and obviously it's not an ideal situation to have both sweat and diet hurt at this stage.
41:52
[SPEAKER_01]: It does definitely help that Shemar Turner is going to be coming back.
41:55
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't really know entirely what to expect from him because like you said, they played a lot of defensive tackle before he got hurt last year.
42:03
[SPEAKER_01]: I think there's only like one or two games that he played a defensive end.
42:06
[SPEAKER_01]: He looked a little bit better if I recall at defensive end.
42:11
[SPEAKER_01]: But because going back to his time in A&M, the only reason he really kicked inside was because they had Nick Scorton and Shemar Stewart.
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[SPEAKER_01]: off the edge and they wanted to move, you know, beef up Turner being a bigger red russia as he is.
42:24
[SPEAKER_01]: It made sense to keep him on the field, keep him along the interior.
42:27
[SPEAKER_01]: He had that flexibility to begin with.
42:29
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think he could be a good fan of defense event because what we've seen from Dennis Allen's defense is the bears don't really rely too much on
42:39
[SPEAKER_01]: upfield penetration from their ad rusher's, they've won't rely on it more from the interior and from the blitz.
42:46
[SPEAKER_01]: And the interior's not doing a phenomenal job of doing that, but they're making up for it with how good the blitz has been.
42:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
42:52
[SPEAKER_01]: And what they want their ad rusher's to do is more or less clean up.
42:56
[SPEAKER_01]: So get the quarterback, you know, panic to get them under duress, have them scrambling and then have those physical edge setters who can stand their ground at the point of attack, then stack and shed blocks
43:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Which I think fits Turner a lot better than maybe like an upfield sort of, you know, like James Pierce Jr when he's, you know, on the field for the Falcons like he won't be in this game, but, you know, he's somebody where he's a little bit smaller, a little bit under size for the position, but the upfield athletic athleticism, the acceleration is there different styles of playing defense events.
43:30
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think that Turner's a good fit schematically for what Dennis Allen wants.
43:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Major question mark, obviously, we don't know too much of what he's going to be at defensive end, especially coming off an injury where he was gone for so long, but I part of me is definitely excited to see what he can do in this role.
43:45
[SPEAKER_01]: I think we'll see some decent amount of James Lynch too as well, where he's been somebody who's rotated from defensive tackle to defensive end, and I feel like we'll see a little bit more of him at defensive end just out of necessity, because of who's out for the bears right now, but
44:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I have a lot of faith in Austin Booker though.
44:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Booker 10 performing at a very high level.
44:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I think, you know, analytically things have been impressive too.
44:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I know he's currently grading is a top 20 ad russia and pfn edge impact grading.
44:15
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, the.
44:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Pressure capabilities, but more, I think the stack capabilities in general, bookers off to a great start, already with four sacks through the first five games.
44:26
[SPEAKER_01]: He cleans up at a very high level with the high motor that he has solid length solid quickness.
44:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's the most athletic edge rusher that the bears have.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I have some faith.
44:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously it's a worry given the fact that you're down two of your top three guys, but bookers plan at a very high level and with Turner at least there's some upside worth tapping into.
44:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and let me ask you because obviously one of the big things you're going to be focusing on against the Falcons is be John Robinson and they're run the way that he could do everything he's just a force of nature and Brian Robinson to a good running back also and so when you talk about that is there anybody when it comes to you mentioned James Lynch a Daniel Hardy the
45:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Chroma, I know they kept his on the roster too, or there are any of those guys that you think are at least could be maybe you don't get the password shot of them, but you get the run defense out of them.
45:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that could definitely be the case with a lynch in particular where he's just generally a bigger guy for a defensive end.
45:26
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I consider him to be more of a defensive tackle, but he's been playing a, you know, decent amount of both if I'm not mistaken, I think he's played a little bit more edge so far this year, at least off of what I've seen from the all 22, but I think we'll see more of that regardless and again having like a heavier edge setter type.
45:47
[SPEAKER_01]: makes it, you know, difficult for the falcons to run outside of the A gap and, you know, plug out the B gap, plug up the C gap.
45:55
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what you want to do at the end of the day with the falcons with B John playing at such a high level.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Brian Robinson Jr. too has been tremendous for Atlanta that run game in particular.
46:05
[SPEAKER_01]: That one, two bunch has been really strong.
46:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, and I do have my concerns about if they're going to be able to stop that.
46:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it'll be a pretty high scoring shoot out from both teams.
46:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, the fact that it's in Atlanta does worry me a little bit.
46:21
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like the bears have the more talented roster in the better coaching staff at this point.
46:25
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's not so much of a lopsided.
46:29
[SPEAKER_01]: you know, one way into the other that I feel like it's going to be a lock by any means.
46:33
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think you having a linebacker like Devon Bush who's as athletic as he is in space, I feel like could certainly limit Bions receiving ability.
46:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, because that's where Devon Bush is at his best is when he's out in space, not when he's, you know, deconstructing blocks as a downhill defender, that's his weakness, but if you try and stretch the field horizontally against him in the run game, he's going to be able to get the job done, he's going to beat your guy to the edge and he's going to have the closing speed, the clicking close speed to be able to get there in time.
47:06
[SPEAKER_01]: So that'll help TJ Edwards that might be a different story.
47:10
[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't have like that exact level of athleticism to be able to match up with Bijon.
47:15
[SPEAKER_01]: So in space, I think Devon Bush is a good counter to Bijon, but in between the tackles, that's what does have me a little bit worried.
47:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
47:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, and TJ Edwards also dealing with injury right now.
47:29
[SPEAKER_00]: And so it may be to Marco Jackson and Bush and then more no soul.
47:35
[SPEAKER_00]: He was obviously activated last week too.
47:37
[SPEAKER_00]: So it made the lineback a room.
47:38
[SPEAKER_00]: They look a little bit different.
47:39
[SPEAKER_00]: A couple more Jacob before I let you go.
47:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Kyler Gordon, you have about five days for them to decide if they're going to activate him or not.
47:47
[SPEAKER_00]: If not, he goes on season ending.
47:50
[SPEAKER_00]: He can't come back and so that's a big decision that they have to make within the next five days so two parts to this number one Do you think they end up doing that number two how much does a healthy colored Gordon help this defense and what Dennis Allen does in the blitz and even the run game honestly Yeah, I do think that they end up activating him especially off these last two games.
48:11
[SPEAKER_01]: He's another guy who's been practicing and full the last two games or last two days of practice Friday will be a big telltale sign maybe you know
48:20
[SPEAKER_01]: The figure out for next week, obviously you mentioned they've five more days to figure it out, so he doesn't necessarily have to play this week.
48:27
[SPEAKER_01]: He could be activated afterwards, but I think that if Kyler Gordon's able to bounce back to his previous self, like before all the injuries and stuff like that, it'd be massive for Chicago because the cornerback position has been a pretty big weakness, and I feel like honestly the way
48:50
[SPEAKER_01]: He could stick around where Jalen Johnson has been such a liability along the perimeter at Cornerback, which paints me to say, because I love the guy, I love, you know, he's put together some really good seasons.
49:01
[SPEAKER_01]: He's been with the bears to thick and thin, but this season has been bad on the tape in the analytics just all the way around.
49:10
[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't seem to be the same level of athlete that he once was.
49:15
[SPEAKER_01]: So you have that, you have the fact that time you've even since the last year of his rookie contract, I don't get the sense they're going to sign him to a massive extension because of his inconsistency, too.
49:25
[SPEAKER_01]: So do the bears really want to go through a full off-season having to replace two, maybe three new starting quarterbacks?
49:34
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you're hoping that Malik Muhammad slides into one of those rules and I think he will, based off what we've seen from him so far this year.
49:43
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that if Kyler comes back, he could be a valuable asset.
49:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you said, obviously covering in the slot, someone who can kick out wide as well in coverage, cable blitzer, you know, coming off the edge when they have the nickel blitzes very good in that regard.
49:58
[SPEAKER_01]: He's willing and physical and run support, which is interesting because I feel like, you know, there's so many people who've complained about, oh, you know, Kyler's not practicing, he's always hurt something like that complaining about his, you know, his effort in recovery.
50:12
[SPEAKER_01]: The effort on tape isn't an issue at all.
50:14
[SPEAKER_01]: So I ultimately do think that he's going to step into that role and he's going to get activated at some point, whether it's for this game or right after this game we'll see.
50:29
[SPEAKER_01]: But the fact that he practiced in full of the last two games have been really a really encouraging to me.
50:35
[SPEAKER_00]: So Dylan Thineman, Malik Mahamed, both as rookies and stepping in and making big plays.
50:40
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think Malik Mahamed has shocked a lot of people number one a little bit of a later pick, but also didn't play Nickel Corner in college.
50:47
[SPEAKER_00]: He was the outside guy, the majority of the time, and he's had to kind of step into a role there and play a little bit about side.
50:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Where do you like Malik?
50:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you like, would you like him to be on the outside ultimately?
50:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Or do you think he's played well enough at Nickel?
51:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, it's a good question because in the preseason, he played, you know, mostly nickel and he did play a little bit out wide.
51:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought he looked more comfortable out wide in the preseason, which I mean, is to be expected because that's where he played at Texas.
51:15
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's where he's most comfortable, but so far this year in the regular season, I think he's looking more comfortable in the nickel.
51:22
[SPEAKER_01]: honestly.
51:22
[SPEAKER_01]: So I know he's he had to bounce back and forth.
51:26
[SPEAKER_01]: I know Tyreek Stevenson missed a game.
51:28
[SPEAKER_01]: So Mohammed had to kick back outside and he was he was all right in that game.
51:35
[SPEAKER_01]: It's really tough.
51:36
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like it could really go either way and a lot of that is I think is going to come down to House Kyler Gordon going to do.
51:42
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that Mohammed can play well and either alignment.
51:45
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just going to be a matter of where do the bears necessarily need him and can they stick keep him at one position and give him the chance where he doesn't have to cross train.
51:55
[SPEAKER_01]: because, you know, the footwork, the timing, the spacing, playing in the nickel isn't the same as it is playing on the, you know, playing on the boundary or playing on the field side.
52:07
[SPEAKER_01]: It's tough to say right now, I feel like this year he's played better in the nickel in the regular season, but with Kyler Gordon coming back, it might be out of necessity, you have to move them back outside, which again, I'm okay with honestly, I projected him outside going into the draft and you know, part of that's because all right, that's replayed, we know it plays at a high level.
52:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, he's a little bit skinnier for sure for a for a perimeter corner back.
52:32
[SPEAKER_01]: But he still has that, uh, longitudinal agility to jump on a route.
52:37
[SPEAKER_01]: He has that agility, the fluidity to stick with guys at the top of the route.
52:42
[SPEAKER_01]: He scrappy at the catch point.
52:44
[SPEAKER_01]: There are tools that he has that definitely translate to success as an outside corner of the NFL.
52:48
[SPEAKER_01]: So I feel like,
52:50
[SPEAKER_01]: This year, if Collar Gordon does come back, we'll probably see a little bit more of Mohammed out wide, and I get the sense that they're more prone to benching Stevenson than Jayla Johnson at this stage, but I do think that Stevenson's been better than Johnson at this point, which brings up an interesting argument.
53:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it does.
53:10
[SPEAKER_00]: And so for this week in Jacob final one, when we're talking about how the bears win, I mean, I think offensively healthy Caleb you kind of know or hope what that looks like and you know how they can win with Caleb at, you know, behind center or under center, but when you talk about defensively and how this may possibly look you've got to you just got completely worked last week against Jordan love with some of those deep passes down field stuff.
53:37
[SPEAKER_00]: felt like we couldn't do anything.
53:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Jalen Johnson looked really slow.
53:40
[SPEAKER_00]: You mentioned that.
53:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Tyree gets hurt.
53:42
[SPEAKER_00]: How do you deal with a drink London this week?
53:45
[SPEAKER_00]: What do you think the bears do?
53:46
[SPEAKER_00]: And that plan and what do you think this week?
53:47
[SPEAKER_00]: And looks like overall, I've had to slow down that offense there.
53:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I really want to see Dylan the admin in an overhang role have them as a single high safety to high whatever the case I feel like.
53:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I and I know part of his allure is what he can do is downhill defender, what he can do the box and the slot is versatility, but it might be out of necessity that you have uncovering deep because Xavier Woods again, he's another guy he's been in the NFL for a long time he's.
54:14
[SPEAKER_01]: succeeded and he's, you know, made a lot of money.
54:17
[SPEAKER_01]: There's, you know, a lot to be grateful for on that end, but athletically he isn't in his prime anymore.
54:22
[SPEAKER_01]: There are a couple instances where he was slow coming out of his transitions on coverage last week.
54:27
[SPEAKER_01]: And I just don't know if he has athletically what it takes anymore to be that single high ranging kind of safety where if Kobe Bryant were healthy, I feel very comfortable that he could do that.
54:38
[SPEAKER_01]: So you might need to have Phenomen overhang up high a little bit more than usual in this case.
54:47
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, at the end of the day, I feel like if the bears are to win this game, I think defensively what they need to do is attack the edges, really.
54:55
[SPEAKER_01]: And I know it's going to be a little tougher with Sweat and O'Dang bow heard, but you have Austin Booker, you have Schermar Turner coming back.
55:03
[SPEAKER_01]: utilize the blitz, you know, whether it's linebackers coming in, shading over the tackles, doing whatever you have to do to confuse Michael Panics.
55:13
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Panics is a good athlete,
55:21
[SPEAKER_01]: much more comfortable in the pocket than he is at a structure.
55:24
[SPEAKER_01]: And the Falcons offensive tackle tandem hasn't been very good this year.
55:28
[SPEAKER_01]: The interior is really good and that's what worries me in particular about the run game that the bears might have.
55:34
[SPEAKER_01]: They might give up some leeway to beach on up the middle.
55:37
[SPEAKER_01]: But off the edges, I feel like if the bears, again, maintain a heavy blitz approach, they could stress panics out.
55:44
[SPEAKER_01]: And I feel like that's going to be key on defense.
55:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, the intermediate game is going to be huge.
55:51
[SPEAKER_01]: The Falcons don't have a great group of corners.
55:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Really good at safety.
55:55
[SPEAKER_01]: The deep ball is going to be difficult to come by with, you know, it's guys like that, but I feel like, you know, utilize those deep ends, utilize those crossers.
56:05
[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of different ways that you can attack just beyond the sticks.
56:11
[SPEAKER_01]: and I anticipate that Ben Johnson is going to be able to do that because he's shown that this bear's offense is really comfortable doing that.
56:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Caleb Williams obviously has the arm talent to be able to do that and he's shown he showed better timing in that week one game against the Panthers.
56:25
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think if we can get that to against the Falcons, that boads really well for Chicago.
56:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I agree with you on all of that.
56:32
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that I'm heading up.
56:34
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm heading up to Atlanta for the game.
56:36
[SPEAKER_00]: So hopefully it's a relieving with the victory.
56:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, should I make a sign that says, hey, Matt Ryan, where's our cop pick.
56:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we need one more third round pick.
56:48
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that could have been huge.
56:49
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a lime that are defensive back to the mix, but
56:53
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I guess I guess Matt Ryan's the primary decision maker, stupid, stupid loophole.
56:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Now I'm upset, now I'm sorry.
57:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have a great time on this show and then you brought it out, then I'll look down on it.
57:05
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, Jacob, I really appreciate you chatting with me.
57:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I said, hopefully we're coming back with the victory.
57:11
[SPEAKER_00]: It'd be really nice to, you know, a three or four or two sounds a lot better than a three and three record going into three prime time games in a by week.
57:19
[SPEAKER_00]: But I appreciate you taking the time and chatting with me.
57:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely, thanks for having me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, bye-bye.