Latest / Becker’s Healthcare -- Pediatric Leadership Podcast / Dr. Arturo Brito, President and Chief Executive Officer of Children's Health Fund
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- 0:27- This is Chris. So with the Becker's Healthcare Podcast,
- 0:30I'm thrilled to be joined by Dr.
- 0:31Arturo Brito, president
- 0:33and Chief Executive Officer of the Children's Health Fund.
- 0:36Arturo, thank you for joining us today.
- 0:38- Thank you for having me, Chris. Pleasure to be here.
- 0:42- Arturo, would you please introduce yourself
- 0:44and tell us a bit more about your background?
- 0:47- Yeah, so I'm, I'm a community pediatrician
- 0:49with a population health focus.
- 0:51I received my medical degree from the University
- 0:53of South Florida College of Medicine.
- 0:55Uh, completed my pediatric residency, um,
- 0:58at Emory University
- 0:59and affiliated hospitals in Atlanta, Georgia,
- 1:01including at Grady Memorial Hospital,
- 1:03the Safety Net Hospital, uh, for Atlanta.
- 1:07I then went on as I was working as a community pediatrician
- 1:10to receive my master's
- 1:11of public health degree from the University
- 1:13of Miami Miller School of Medicine.
- 1:15As you said, I'm president
- 1:16and CEO of Children's Health Fund.
- 1:18I rejoined the fund back in September of 2021,
- 1:21a little over two and a half years ago, um,
- 1:24having previously served of between 2006
- 1:27and 2011 as Chief Medical Officer.
- 1:29Uh, and those approximately 10 years in
- 1:31between those two roles of the current one.
- 1:34And the previous one, I served as deputy commissioner
- 1:37and lead physician, uh,
- 1:38for the New Jersey Department of Health.
- 1:41Then went on to become the executive director
- 1:43of the Nicholson Foundation,
- 1:44a family foundation focused on early childhood
- 1:48and healthcare in New Jersey.
- 1:50Um, so my clinical
- 1:52and leadership career has always been focused on underserved
- 1:56populations and healthcare equity.
- 1:59Um, immediately after residency,
- 2:01I worked in southwestern Alaska
- 2:03for the Indian Health Service, providing care to UIC people,
- 2:06a native Alaskan population,
- 2:08living in ro remote areas of the state.
- 2:10Quite an experience I've learned a lot there about
- 2:13what it means to be a marginalized population, what it means
- 2:17to live in a remote part of the country, that access
- 2:20to healthcare is a big challenge.
- 2:21You know, after that, I spent the next 11 years
- 2:25as the medical director
- 2:26of the South Florida Children's Health Project.
- 2:28This is one of the early partnering program
- 2:31of Children's Health Fund,
- 2:32and a continues to be one
- 2:34of now 24 programs in 15 states, Puerto Rico
- 2:38and Washington dc um, that form our national network.
- 2:42Um, throughout our network, we provide care
- 2:44to more than a hundred thousand, uh, individual children
- 2:46every single year through nearly 500,000 clinical visits
- 2:51on mobile clinics via telehealth.
- 2:53And at more than 400 schools
- 2:54and other community sites, four out of five kids served
- 2:59by our national network are black
- 3:01or brown, all live in low income households.
- 3:05Um, so like many of our other partners,
- 3:07when I was in South Florida, we had a custom design,
- 3:1038 foot long mobile medical clinic,
- 3:13a doctor's office on wheels, if you will.
- 3:16Um, this was my medical office.
- 3:18I worked alongside mental health providers, social workers,
- 3:21nurses, nutritionists
- 3:22and others, uh, to provide comprehensive healthcare
- 3:25for children growing up in under-resourced communities
- 3:28throughout Miami-Dade County.
- 3:30It was also a great opportunity to teach medical students
- 3:34and residents who rotated on that, uh, uh, mobile clinic
- 3:38and throughout our sites on a regular basis.
- 3:41And this is University of Miami's, uh, teaching program
- 3:44for community pediatrics.
- 3:46Um, so my diverse leadership
- 3:48and clinical experience, um, helped me in my current role
- 3:52as president and CEO of CHF.
- 3:55It's really about carrying forward a more than 36 year
- 3:59history of chfs values about focus on
- 4:03under-resourced communities and marginalized populations.
- 4:07What's most important to us is that we believe
- 4:09that every child in this country,
- 4:12every child in the United States, deserves quality.
- 4:15And I emphasize the word quality here, right?
- 4:17Healthcare, you know,
- 4:18our current strategy builds on the more than 36 year
- 4:22history of innovation.
- 4:23Um, the use of a mobile clinics as a pediatric medical home,
- 4:27for example, was unique in 1987 when we began,
- 4:31and when we established
- 4:32and used the first one to serve children
- 4:35and families living in squalor
- 4:36and deplorable conditions in homeless
- 4:38shelters throughout New York City.
- 4:40We continue that work today throughout, um, uh,
- 4:43New York City, uh, in those mobile clinics, uh,
- 4:46through our flagship pro program,
- 4:47the Bronx Health Collective,
- 4:49who also have a state-of-the-Art, uh,
- 4:52fixed site clinic in the South Bronx, uh, hunts Point, one
- 4:55of the poorest congressional districts in the country.
- 4:57We were also at the forefront
- 4:58of developing electronic health records as early as 1989
- 5:02to ensure that healthcare services were comprehensive
- 5:05and included social drivers of health.
- 5:08We didn't call it that back then,
- 5:10but they were social drivers of health, such
- 5:12as addressing food insecurity,
- 5:13transportation needs, and housing.
- 5:16We've also developed the award-winning education materials
- 5:19such as our Asthma guide that make it easier for parents
- 5:22and physicians alike to follow evidence-based
- 5:24national guidelines to better control this chronic disease
- 5:28and help children stay active
- 5:30and out of emergency rooms and hospitals.
- 5:33In short, because our focus has always been about working in
- 5:36under-resourced communities, working
- 5:38to serve underserved populations
- 5:41and marginalized populations, we've been able
- 5:43to really create this niche of really ensuring that
- 5:48as many kids in this country as possible,
- 5:50getting the quality healthcare they they need
- 5:51and deserve to thrive and succeed.
- 5:53Um, in 2000, uh, 14, to continue our innovations,
- 5:58we developed and established healthy and Ready to learn.
- 6:01This is a program that addresses health barriers
- 6:04to learning within the school setting.
- 6:06Um, I would give a little more detail about that later
- 6:08because it's one of our goals this year to grow
- 6:10that program, not only within New York City
- 6:12where it currently exists, but
- 6:14outside New York City and into other states.
- 6:16Um, and just a few years ago,
- 6:18we developed our community health equity
- 6:20and engagement roundtables.
- 6:22This is all about really listening to community members, uh,
- 6:27including youth, not just necessarily patients,
- 6:30but community members who really understand, have a pulse
- 6:33of what's going on in their community
- 6:36and to drive programs that serve their needs.
- 6:41Um, and it's, everybody talks about, uh, equity
- 6:43and everybody talks about creating a voice.
- 6:46Uh, we're actually walking the walk here
- 6:48with our Chairs program.
- 6:50Uh, so I often get asked, you know,
- 6:54what drives me to do this work?
- 6:55Why have I, I spent my entire professional career focused
- 6:59on children living in under-resourced communities.
- 7:02Well, I'm an immigrant myself from Cuba VI Nicaragua,
- 7:06initially Columbus, Ohio, if you can imagine that.
- 7:08Back then, we were one of the first
- 7:10Latino families in that part of the country.
- 7:13Uh, when I was seven years old, you know, I saw firsthand
- 7:16what it's like to be discriminated against
- 7:18not having access to quality of healthcare.
- 7:20And I watch how my parents had to work, as they say, twice
- 7:24as hard to get half as far.
- 7:25And I also want to make sure I build on that to make sure
- 7:29that all children in this country have the
- 7:32opportunity to thrive and succeed.
- 7:35- Arturo, given the vast scope of your career already,
- 7:38and who knows what's, what's ahead really,
- 7:40and given the scope of what the Children's Health Run wants
- 7:43to do, it certainly seems like they have the right person
- 7:45in in that position.
- 7:47Uh, you touched on some of the organization's goals.
- 7:50Uh, would you mind right now getting into the top three
- 7:53goals that you have for just this year?
- 7:55- Yeah, yeah. So, first off, okay, uh, we want
- 7:59to increase the number of children served
- 8:01by our national network.
- 8:03Um, eventually we wanna get to at least 150,000 children,
- 8:07uh, annually.
- 8:08Right now, this last year, we're at 118,000.
- 8:11So over the next few years, we wanna increase that.
- 8:13So our goal is to get more resources
- 8:15so we can expand our network, both, uh, adding new partners,
- 8:20but also giving more resources
- 8:22to our current partners so they can see more children.
- 8:24The need is definitely out there. Okay. So that's one goal.
- 8:27The other one is we know there's a huge mental health crisis
- 8:31with our youth and children.
- 8:32There's no question about that.
- 8:34There's a lot of evidence and, and, and data around that.
- 8:37So, we wanna expand our integrative mental health services
- 8:40through our mobile clinics, through telehealth
- 8:43and at school-based centers that, uh,
- 8:44our national network partners, uh, serve.
- 8:47Um, and like I said, we wanna duplicate our Healthy
- 8:49and Ready to Learn program to school
- 8:51districts beyond New York City.
- 8:53So, I wanna talk a little bit about that program.
- 8:54If, if it's okay, Chris, um, you know, this unique program,
- 8:58it, it, it, and I wanna talk about it
- 9:00because it's being requested from our partners
- 9:02and others from around the country about
- 9:04how they can duplicate it.
- 9:06Well, our Healthy
- 9:07and Relearn program is built around addressing health
- 9:12barriers to learning within the school setting.
- 9:14What this means is if a child has asthma
- 9:17that's uncontrolled,
- 9:19we make sure they're getting their medication
- 9:21and have the right provider
- 9:22so they can focus more in school, stay outta the hospital
- 9:26and not miss so many school days.
- 9:28'cause we know, uh, that's a big reason
- 9:30kids miss, uh, school.
- 9:31Another reason kids miss school a lot is
- 9:33because of dental issues.
- 9:35Te uh, they, they have problems with, uh,
- 9:37oral health issues like, uh, cavities that are causing a lot
- 9:40of pain, abscesses, et cetera.
- 9:42So we wanna make sure that kids have dental services,
- 9:47and I don't mean just screening,
- 9:48but actually taking care
- 9:49of the dental problems in the school setting,
- 9:51particularly in the poorer parts
- 9:53of the country under-resourced communities.
- 9:55Um, in this case, in New York City, right now,
- 9:57we're in the Bronx, the South Bronx,
- 9:59but we want to go elsewhere,
- 10:00and we're looking at, uh, expanding it in New Jersey
- 10:03and maybe other parts of the country.
- 10:05But we believe this program has a big chance
- 10:09of becoming something that could be a model program
- 10:13to tie in to bridge, if you will, the health
- 10:16and educational sectors
- 10:18that are often live in their own silos.
- 10:21And among the biggest issues is something I already
- 10:23mentioned about the growing mental health crisis.
- 10:26We need more mental health providers,
- 10:29we need more mental health services, uh, whether
- 10:31through telehealth or in school settings at the school sites
- 10:35where healthy and ready to learn are,
- 10:37this is the biggest request we get from the teachers,
- 10:39the principal, and other school personnel,
- 10:41because a lot of the kids that we see have a lot
- 10:44of trauma in their lives that has been exacerbated
- 10:46during the COVID-19 pandemic and surrounding social issues.
- 10:51Um, and then the,
- 10:52so those are the three goals, just to reiterate.
- 10:54So we wanna increase the number
- 10:55of children served by our national network.
- 10:57We wanna expand our integrative mental health services,
- 11:00and we want to take our healthy and regular Learn program
- 11:03and replicate it in school districts outside
- 11:06of New York City and throughout the country.
- 11:08Um, we're looking for the resources to do that.
- 11:11So it all takes resources,
- 11:13but in the end, those resources will pay dividends
- 11:16because the kids will be healthier.
- 11:17So the communities are healthier,
- 11:19and our country as a whole is healthier.
- 11:22- Thank you, Arturo. I'm sure anyone who has a child
- 11:25or is simply interested in the mental health
- 11:27of their community is behind the goals that you guys have.
- 11:30Uh, you mentioned a little bit about the partnerships
- 11:33that the Children's Health Fund has.
- 11:36So at this time, um, I'd like you, if you don't mind, uh,
- 11:39to get into the main benefits of these partnerships as far
- 11:42as your organization is concerned.
- 11:44And how can leaders of other organizations
- 11:47see if they're a good fit and maybe work
- 11:49with the Children's Health Fund?
- 11:51- Yeah, so I,
- 11:53I learned a lot about this when I was at the Nicholas
- 11:55Foundation, and we, we worked hard, um,
- 11:59in partnering with the government sector,
- 12:02New Jersey State Government in that case, you know,
- 12:05government has a broader reach than the private sector.
- 12:09So that's the advantage of working with government.
- 12:11You may have a great idea, you may have a great program,
- 12:13but you can reach a lot more people by partnering
- 12:16with the right government agency at the right time.
- 12:19The private sector can bring innovation and more depth
- 12:22because government often doesn't have the
- 12:25personnel be able to do that.
- 12:26Um, so they have the broader reach.
- 12:29Private sector can bring the innovative ideas and depth.
- 12:33Um, so when design right,
- 12:35they can compliment each other, right?
- 12:37Having worked in both sectors, I understand
- 12:40that it takes a certain patience
- 12:41and strategic thinking to make it work.
- 12:43Um, so when I was the Nicholas Foundation, uh,
- 12:46we worked not only with the government sector,
- 12:49but we also work with other private, um, not-for-profits
- 12:54to unite our resources to do
- 12:59demonstration models that would lead to, uh,
- 13:02changes in systems.
- 13:03In fact, that the Nicholson Foundation are, tagline wise,
- 13:06change in systems, changing lives.
- 13:08We wanted to change systems,
- 13:10so our investments would have long-term
- 13:12and sustainable impact.
- 13:14I can give you a couple of examples.
- 13:15One of the things we did, we did a demonstration model on
- 13:18the value Okay.
- 13:21Of community health workers for the state of New Jersey.
- 13:24Um, and what that led to was eventually
- 13:27after a two year, uh,
- 13:28demonstration model alongside other foundations, was that
- 13:32like we have seen around the country, uh,
- 13:35there was an improvement in healthcare outcomes.
- 13:38There was a decreasing of disparities
- 13:41and lowering of healthcare costs by the,
- 13:43with the use of community health workers.
- 13:45And eventually, uh, New Jersey, like a lot
- 13:48of other states have done, moved to, uh, reimbursing
- 13:51through Medicaid for community health workers forming
- 13:54and establishing a community health worker training
- 13:57institute, um, that would really follow
- 14:00what we did together there.
- 14:02So that's one example.
- 14:03So again, the potential impact of that institute
- 14:09is, you know, population
- 14:10of New Jersey, about 9 million people.
- 14:11It could potentially reach, you know, millions
- 14:13of those people, particularly those
- 14:15that are on the lower income level
- 14:17and that need those services.
- 14:19Um, so what I would say
- 14:21to somebody about other organizations,
- 14:23and we actually put together, um, a, a, a guide on this,
- 14:28if you will, at the Nicholson Foundation, glad to share
- 14:30with anybody if they want to contact us about how
- 14:33to know if you're ready to do this
- 14:34and how you can assess it,
- 14:36and how do you know if the government entity is ready?
- 14:39Well, I think you have
- 14:40to have both partners interested in making
- 14:42that long-term impact
- 14:43and ready to let go of, of a lot
- 14:46of their preconceived notions about each other
- 14:49and figure out what strengths each has in that case.
- 14:53But again, generally speaking, government has
- 14:56a broader reach that can reach more people,
- 14:58and the private sector can bring the innovation, uh, to them
- 15:03and working together, they can really, uh,
- 15:05have substantial impact.
- 15:06What I would also say in Encourage is
- 15:09for not-for-profits out there that are writing the checks
- 15:12for organizations, um, to do the work is to work
- 15:15with other not-for-profits,
- 15:17because that makes it easier for government too.
- 15:19If they have one body of people working together as opposed
- 15:23to five different entities coming to them at different times
- 15:26with similar ideas or even the same idea.
- 15:29It's a lot easier just to work with one,
- 15:31because people in government are generally very, very busy
- 15:34and o overworked and understaffed.
- 15:37So I would just suggest that, so to know if you're ready,
- 15:39if you're ready to make those changes and understand,
- 15:42and these things take time, they take a few years,
- 15:43you're not gonna get the same result.
- 15:45But eventually that result will be longer lasting
- 15:48and have more depth, uh, and a broader reach.
- 15:53- That definitely makes sense. Arturo,
- 15:54and I'm glad you mentioned the innovation elements of this.
- 15:57That leads me to my next question,
- 15:59and that is, in terms of technology, I mean,
- 16:01everyone these days inundated with AI or virtual reality
- 16:05or telehealth or anything else
- 16:07that is just flooding the industry at the moment.
- 16:10So what technology excites you most in terms of helping,
- 16:15uh, assist communities and the organization's mission?
- 16:19- Yeah, so there's a lot going on,
- 16:21and I'm gonna say this about Children's Health Fund,
- 16:24and we've had a long history of being at the forefront
- 16:28of using technology for under-resourced communities
- 16:32and underserved populations.
- 16:34It's really important that this didn't
- 16:35just start when I arrived.
- 16:37In fact, when I was in South Florida Children's Health
- 16:39Project, serving as a medical director working there, uh,
- 16:43I recall that, uh, children's Health Fund,
- 16:45think about this on a mobile clinic,
- 16:47they had developed these third iteration, I believe,
- 16:51of an electronic health record
- 16:53that we could use on mobile clinics, even in areas
- 16:56where access to wifi was limited.
- 16:58Um, it was as effective as it could be,
- 17:01but they were at the beginning, 1989,
- 17:03as far back developing their first set
- 17:05of electronic health records.
- 17:07And the reason CHF has been at the forefront is
- 17:10because of our focus on populations that frankly, a lot
- 17:13of people have forgotten about or don't care about.
- 17:16Um, and we needed those tools.
- 17:18You can't carry around paper charts on mobile
- 17:21clinics, you, there's a limit.
- 17:23So that was one of the, um, reasons that that was developed,
- 17:26but also because they, the type of people that come to work
- 17:28for Children's Health Fund, like our current, uh,
- 17:30vice president, uh, of our innovation lab,
- 17:33something we developed last year, uh, Jen Pruitt, um,
- 17:36you know, these are people that have it in their heart, uh,
- 17:40to do the right thing for every child in this country
- 17:43and also have, have the brain.
- 17:45She's wicked smart and very creative about
- 17:48how we approach things, uh, often
- 17:50with limited resources in the communities we serve.
- 17:53So, to answer your questions, I'll just give you some
- 17:55of the potential, uh, projects of our innovation lab
- 17:58or things we're working on
- 17:59and looking for the resources to work on, um,
- 18:02health education apps.
- 18:03Like I mentioned before, we have award-winning education
- 18:06materials that we've developed over the years,
- 18:08and they're award-winning
- 18:09because they are written at a level that anybody, anybody,
- 18:13even me as a pediatrician who I've read all the, uh,
- 18:16national guidelines, my goodness, you know,
- 18:18I've used these materials forever since I worked on
- 18:20that mobile clinic in South Florida.
- 18:21It just makes it so much easier, less complicated,
- 18:24and more direct to make sure
- 18:25that kids are getting the asthma care they need and deserve.
- 18:28We want to take, uh, those, these,
- 18:31those education materials and turn 'em into apps.
- 18:33Just about anybody now has access to smartphones
- 18:36or a phone that they can easily look at an app so
- 18:38that parents and their pediatrician,
- 18:40their child's pediatricians alike,
- 18:42can follow along together, uh,
- 18:44and make sure that the children are receiving their, um,
- 18:47you know, the medications they need to control their asthma,
- 18:50keep 'em outta the hospital, keep 'em healthy,
- 18:51and keep 'em in school, right?
- 18:53Um, so that's one example.
- 18:54There's other health education apps we'd like to develop.
- 18:57What we're interested in morning thing is this digital
- 18:59divide that I worry, worry, uh, you know, you talk about ai,
- 19:04but who's gonna benefit from AI most
- 19:06and who is gonna bear the burden?
- 19:08I worry, like a lot of things have happened historically
- 19:11that certain populations reap the benefits of advance
- 19:15of technology and other populations actually don't read the
- 19:18benefits, and even worse, they often bear the burden.
- 19:20We wanna make sure that the digital divide, we have, um,
- 19:26we do our part to make sure our, uh, service sites are
- 19:31not, uh, excluded from any of the benefits that AI has
- 19:35to offer or any other technological advances.
- 19:38So one example is with our Healthy
- 19:40and Ready to Learn, uh, program that I talked about
- 19:43before, we've also created a resource
- 19:46and training center to make, uh, quality materials, uh,
- 19:49available to educators, health staff,
- 19:52and school health advocates, even in schools we're not, uh,
- 19:57physically in, uh, so that we can support their work
- 20:00and ensure students are healthy and ready to learn.
- 20:02Um, we're gonna, we want to continue
- 20:04to develop this resource center, um,
- 20:06adding new target audiences topics and interactive tools.
- 20:10Um, so we also wanna produce a national child health
- 20:14resource and training center, um, along those same lines
- 20:17that this will provide a platform for materials
- 20:19and information sharing, uh,
- 20:21across disciplinary collaboration
- 20:23and other interactive tools, um, directed though
- 20:27to physicians and residents serving
- 20:30under-resourced communities.
- 20:32So, um, those are the main things we're
- 20:34focused on for this year.
- 20:35But I believe this innovation lab, you know,
- 20:37the sky's the limit on it, uh, with the right resources
- 20:41and with our leadership that we have here and, um,
- 20:44and the dedication that we have
- 20:45for the populations we serve.
- 20:48- Uh, thank you, Arturo. It just seems
- 20:49so simple the way you put it in terms of, Hey,
- 20:51here's this healthy and ready to learn program
- 20:54so we can keep kids, give them the very basics, right?
- 20:56Let's keep them in the classroom.
- 20:59And sometimes it's more difficult than it might seem,
- 21:01certainly in these communities
- 21:02that you're trying to help the most.
- 21:05Les you did mention mental health,
- 21:07and certainly that is on everyone's mind.
- 21:09Don't real pun intended in that way.
- 21:11Um, but yeah, if you don't mind getting into a little bit
- 21:14about, about
- 21:15how Children's Health Fund can go about
- 21:17addressing that in communities.
- 21:19- Yeah. So we know we have a huge mental health
- 21:21crisis, okay?
- 21:23We also know that, um,
- 21:26even if you have all the money in the world,
- 21:27there aren't enough right now enough, uh,
- 21:30mental health providers for every community in this country.
- 21:33Um, the problem is even more staggering for, uh,
- 21:37marginalized communities,
- 21:38marginalized populations like the L-G-B-T-Q, uh, children
- 21:41and youth in our country, uh, that we have a number
- 21:44of programs that are serving them.
- 21:46Um, so there's, there's a couple things I wanna say about
- 21:49how improving communities mental health, um,
- 21:53you know, what we can do.
- 21:54And I also wanna talk about advocacy
- 21:56because I haven't talked about how we translate, uh,
- 21:59lessons learned on the ground into, um, informed policy
- 22:03and advocacy to make the right changes.
- 22:04So, let, let, let's let, let me start first with what we do
- 22:09through our national network
- 22:11and through our healthy and learning program.
- 22:12So we bring mental health
- 22:15and other services directly into communities with the use
- 22:18of mobile clinics, telehealth,
- 22:20and through school-based clinics.
- 22:22Okay? Um, we're also advocating for change at these clinics
- 22:28and in schools in particular, uh, for
- 22:32states around the country.
- 22:33And some have moved in this direction to adopt, uh,
- 22:38what is referred to as the, uh, CMS
- 22:42or the Centers for Medicare
- 22:43and Medicaid Services Administration,
- 22:45the Federal Administration, uh, free care rule reversal.
- 22:49What this refers to is back in 2014, CMS, um,
- 22:53allowed now, uh, for the reimbursement
- 22:58of services, clinical, medical,
- 23:02mental health, and others in the school settings to expand
- 23:06beyond just children on individualized education, uh,
- 23:10programs or plans, right?
- 23:12Um, in the past, before 2014, uh,
- 23:15CMS would only allow you to get reimbursed
- 23:18as a provider in a school setting to, um,
- 23:22for children who were on those plans.
- 23:24And that's about 18% very state to state,
- 23:26but about one in five children, uh, that are on that plan.
- 23:29So basically, you were excluding four outta five, uh,
- 23:32kids from getting me needed services like mental health,
- 23:36which is one of the biggest requests we get.
- 23:39And since 2014, they said, oh,
- 23:42now you can, uh, change that.
- 23:44But it's up to each state.
- 23:46We're working right now in New York to, uh,
- 23:50have the Medicaid office adopt that change.
- 23:54Uh, we're like to go to other states like New Jersey
- 23:57that haven't adopted that change.
- 23:59A little over 20, I believe at
- 24:01to this date, have adopted that.
- 24:02But there's a lot of states that haven't,
- 24:03and we believe that's the starting point for widening.
- 24:09Um, the access to mental health services
- 24:12for kids they spend most of their day in school, why not,
- 24:15uh, allow providers to go there to do that?
- 24:18And it should be available both in person and telehealth.
- 24:22Telehealth is a great way
- 24:24to reach more kids when you have a diminished number
- 24:27of mental health providers at the moment.
- 24:29Um, and in youth in particular, they are teen, preteen,
- 24:34teen and, and young adults.
- 24:36It's been shown over
- 24:37and over to be widely effective, just as effective in many,
- 24:39most cases, as in-person.
- 24:42Um, I also wanna say something else about the message
- 24:46that we send communities
- 24:48by bringing our mobile clinics into them.
- 24:50Um, you know, one thing that's anecdotal
- 24:53and something that I wish, uh, we could quantify,
- 24:59uh, better, um, is that there's a subtlety
- 25:04to the use of mobile clinics as a very intimate way
- 25:08of providing healthcare in a community.
- 25:12It forces you as a provider to really understand
- 25:14and listen to those community needs, something
- 25:16that we truly value here.
- 25:19It also sends a message to the school
- 25:21or other community sites you park at, that
- 25:25you really do care about that community,
- 25:27and it really helps build relationships, particularly with
- 25:30teachers, um, and other staff at schools.
- 25:34So, in a subtle way, it also helps
- 25:37with the mental health aspect
- 25:39of the needs of that community.
- 25:41Now, having said that, we need to figure out as a country
- 25:45how we're gonna have more providers of mental health.
- 25:48And we, on our advocacy side, you know,
- 25:51bringing services directly to community sites with the use
- 25:53of mobile clinics, with telehealth or at schools
- 25:56and advocating for more mental health, uh,
- 25:59services in school settings, particularly,
- 26:01is gonna go a long way to improving, uh, the health
- 26:05of children in the under-resourced communities.
- 26:08So we also need to look beyond traditional model, where I,
- 26:12as a pediatrician, see a child with a behavioral problem
- 26:16or a mental health issue,
- 26:17and then refer them out to a mental health provider.
- 26:20That model has a lot of challenges,
- 26:23even though it's gotten better over the years,
- 26:24there's still a lot of stigma
- 26:26around mental health providers, transportation issues,
- 26:29getting to mental health providers, scheduling issues,
- 26:31and so on so forth that we all know about, right?
- 26:35A better model is to have mental health providers
- 26:40that are part of a healthcare team,
- 26:42just like we did in South Florida,
- 26:43just like our national network partners, um, continue to do.
- 26:47For instance, I worked alongside,
- 26:49uh, I can still remember Dr.
- 26:51Christina, we called her a psychologist, and she
- 26:53and I would just see patients sometimes together.
- 26:56And there was a part where people would say,
- 26:59wait, who's the pediatrician?
- 27:01Who's the psychologist? Who's the best compliment?
- 27:03Because I learned a lot about mental health
- 27:05and behavioral issues in children,
- 27:07and she learned a lot on the medical side.
- 27:09And to work as a team in an integrative model like
- 27:12that is gonna, uh, be a lot more effective.
- 27:15It doesn't mean that every patient
- 27:16needs a mental health provider.
- 27:17It doesn't mean that every patient
- 27:18that needs a mental health provider is gonna see
- 27:21that psychologist, but she can make a better determination
- 27:24and advise parents and,
- 27:26and through this process also reduce any stigma
- 27:29that is still out there about mental health,
- 27:32particularly in a lot of the populations we see,
- 27:34even though, uh, again, things have gotten better,
- 27:36there's still populations out there that, uh,
- 27:39they don't want people to know
- 27:40they're seeing a mental health provider.
- 27:41So that's integrative models like that.
- 27:43And then the use of telehealth, like I said earlier,
- 27:45increasing that because you can see a lot more kids,
- 27:48particularly our youth, um, uh, through that model,
- 27:51that it can be very effective.
- 27:53And there's also, um,
- 27:54developmental models like Healthy Steps
- 27:57where a developmental specialist is integrated into, um,
- 28:02the healthcare team
- 28:04and where they can identify developmental issues in babies
- 28:07and toddlers at a much earlier age, uh, than most
- 28:11of us would in the traditional healthcare setting,
- 28:14and refer them to the right places.
- 28:16And then guide the parents about
- 28:18what they can be doing at home
- 28:19to stimulate their child's, uh, development.
- 28:21Um, so we have to look at different models,
- 28:24but then there's also what we refer to as community health.
- 28:27You know, we need to work together
- 28:29with the communities we're in,
- 28:31and we're doing that in places like Baton Rouge
- 28:33where they're working with the local police department,
- 28:36for instance, um, to really, uh, build safer areas
- 28:41and address safety issues that really add
- 28:43to the trauma a lot
- 28:44of kids are under right now, and families.
- 28:47Um, and we need to be talking about that
- 28:49and working with, um, you know, local police departments,
- 28:53working with educators to destigmatize mental health issues,
- 28:58lessen the trauma by creating safer spaces for children, uh,
- 29:01and families, uh, to live, work, learn, play, uh,
- 29:06and just, you know, be themselves.
- 29:09- Ur thank you for being so generous with your time
- 29:12and insights today.
- 29:13We absolutely cannot wait to share them with the audience,
- 29:15and we look forward to connecting with you soon.
- 29:17- Well, uh, thank you Chris.
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- 29:46and, uh, it's really my pleasure to have been here.
- 29:49Thank you.