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MINI SCROLL: Cancelled Podcast ending, Doja Cat's viral fan interaction + Ultra Violette SPF scandal explained · Mini Scroll

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  Hi everyone, welcome to Mini Scroll, the daily Internet
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  All right, let's get into the stories for today.
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  The first story that I have for you guys is that Tanna Mojo and
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  Brooks Schofield are going to end their podcast soon.
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  So Tana and Brooke have announced that the end of their
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  wildly popular podcast Canceled, is near.
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  Now, there have been rumors for a long time that Canceled was
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  going to end. I think people felt like they
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  were a little bit checked out, especially since Brooke's racist
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  tweet scandal that happened last year.
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  But they've been on tour. They're actually coming to
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  Australia soon. So, you know, they've been doing
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  the rounds, OK. They've been like really pushing
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  forward, but I think the vibes were just a little bit off on
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  the podcast. And then now, on the most recent
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  episode of Canceled, Tana and Brooke spoke openly about how
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  they feel like they have outgrown their podcast.
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  Sucks so much because I love you so much but like I'm getting in
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  this place where I am like really awaiting the ending of
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  this contract for my piece. Like realizing that this is the
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  final outlier in my peace era, which is so unfortunate because
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  when we started it, well, we weren't peaceful when we started
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  it. I guess you know what I mean?
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  Like just that's what it is. It's like starting this thing as
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  chaotic ass individuals down for the smoke, fucking up our own
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  life. Barney's beanery ING it up,
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  fucking pool boy the house down. And now we're in this era where
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  like both of us are so fucking peaceful.
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  And then like. Yeah, I feel like I don't have
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  enough time to stand up before. Like something else happens
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  every single time. It's just like.
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  And even this episode is no different.
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  You know what I mean? Like it's just, I'm so excited
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  for you to be able to, to talk about food and me to be able to
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  talk about mental health and I want fucking whatever, you know,
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  just. Yeah, not even like necessarily
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  permanently. I know we talk about this all
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  the time, but like just I want to take a beat where it's like
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  my entire life isn't like all about me and like, or other
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  people. I I want it to be like fun and
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  like food or personality based or like makeup or something that
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  like doesn't people don't have a space to comment on in like such
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  a like negative way. I understand feeling like you've
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  outgrown something, I guess, but I find it interesting because I
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  feel like cancelled is still kind of a new endeavor for them.
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  I know it's, I know it's been around for a few years, but it
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  still feels a little bit premature for it to end.
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  And people are like, what is Brooke going to do?
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  This is like her main job. I get feeling anxious when they
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  post and they talk about people and getting feedback like that
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  happens to us. I think one of the biggest
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  things that we've tried to implement here at Centennial
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  World is that our podcast, even we are talking about kind of
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  like influencers, gossipy topics.
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  We're always trying to give it the gravity that it deserves,
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  kind of looking at it from a critical lens and what it means
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  for like the wider, you know, online space, culture, society,
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  all of that. That's like a big part of that.
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  And that is what has kept us still so passionate about
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  covering this space in general. They said they might do a U.S.
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  tour after Australia but like probably not and then their
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  contract will end and that will be the end of cancelled.
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  OK, the next story that I have for you guys is that Doja Cat
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  has gone viral for her interaction with a fan.
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  So this all started around 10 days ago when a TikTok of Doja
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  Cat meeting a fan started circulating on TikTok.
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  In the video, the fan, whose name is Pablo, films himself
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  giving the artist the T-shirt that he's wearing.
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  At first glance, the video seems quite harmless.
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  However, Pablo is quite touchy with Doja Cat and he's
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  repeatedly hugging her. That being said, Doja does seem
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  OK with it in the video. So she's smiling and she's
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  laughing and she's kind of going along with it.
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  However, a couple of days later things really took a turn.
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  So Doja allegedly went on to tweet, quote I threw that musty
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  ass shirt away. This has been deleted which is
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  why I said allegedly. And in another sense to lead the
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  post, she also allegedly wrote, bottom line is I'll smile at
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  you, but it doesn't mean I fuck with you and don't touch me and
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  manhandle me when you don't even fucking know me.
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  If you know, you know. I honestly think I need to stand
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  up for myself in the moment sometimes.
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  And he didn't even know my fucking name.
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  To be touching me and kissing me on my face like that is crazy.
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  Pablo then posted a TikTok responding to Doja's tweets.
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  He essentially explained the situation from his point of view
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  as saying that he didn't intend to make her feel uncomfortable
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  or anything like that. Pablo has since made light of
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  the situation, posting a TikTok with the caption lol.
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  If I musty why do you say I smell good?
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  All right, so this has sparked a lot of discourse about kind of
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  that fan interaction, experience with celebrities, parasocial
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  relations, friendships, boundaries between fans and
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  celebrities. And if Dojo's response was
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  essentially appropriate, I understand why she didn't stand
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  up for herself in the moment. I think as a woman, so many of
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  us can relate to that. I know she's famous.
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  I know there's a power dynamic. But regardless, if a man comes
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  over to you and he is, you know, touching you and being really
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  invasive in your space, like a lot of us, this would be my
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  reaction. Like my gut reaction would just
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  be to be like complacent, you know, and just be like, haha,
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  yeah. Like just acting like I was so
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  OK with it because I would be scared when he's so close in my
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  space of making him angry. So I think it's like it's, it's
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  an instinct, you know, it's, it's hard to explain unless you,
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  I guess, are a woman or have that instinct.
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  But it's so instinctual. Like it's not something that I
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  would be thinking about doing. It would just like be something
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  that I naturally did. And I imagine when you're
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  famous, you probably have similar instincts like that.
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  I think it's interesting because I do not believe that fans
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  should ever be going over to celebrities in watching them.
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  Like I do not think that is appropriate at all.
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  But we also know Doja has had so many issues with her fans doing
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  stuff like this to her and her speaking out about it, being so
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  vocal about how fans feel like entitled to her.
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  And it's really bizarre that people are still doing this to
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  her when she has tried to set these boundaries.
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  And depending on the situation, sometimes I think it's invasive
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  to go up to a celebrity and ask them to take their picture, let
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  alone be like touching them. Unfortunately there is this
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  normalization of toxic fandom with celebrities, especially
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  very online celebrities like Doja Cat.
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  But yeah, I think it's totally fine how she responded after.
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  I think it's good that she stood up for herself and talked about
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  this on Twitter. Do I think it's a bit shady that
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  she said I threw that musty ass shirt?
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  Yeah, like, maybe, but it's Doja Cat.
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  Like, of course she was going to say something like that.
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  She is so unfiltered online. No matter what she's talking
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  about, no matter who she's talking to.
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  I'm not surprised she said that. That's just how she's standing
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  up for herself. All right, the last word that I
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  have for you guys is I really need to talk about the
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  ultraviolet sunscreen scandal that's happening right now.
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  This is very Australian focused. However, I know that they just
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  launched, like the brand just launched into the US as well,
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  and it's literally all over social media right now because
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  it's such a big deal. So wildly popular sunscreen
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  brand Ultraviolet is facing a lot of controversy right now
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  after the consumer advocacy group Choice did independent
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  testing of their sunscreen and the results came back pretty
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  bad. Choice tested 20 Australian
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  sunscreens as part of the study, and they found that 16 did not
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  meet the ratings on their labels.
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  However, Ultraviolet, which is a very buzzy luxury sunscreen,
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  it's kind of like super goop in the US.
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  It's one that like all the girlies wear under their makeup.
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  Like it's very much marketed to us as like this luxurious like
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  strong SPF product that's also got like beautiful skin care and
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  is amazing under your makeup. So Ultraviolet came back with
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  the worst rating. Choice tested their lean screen
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  mattifying zinc sunscreen SPF 5050 plus OK, and it came back
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  as SPF four. Choice tested the sunscreen
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  twice. They got an SPF 4 rating, and
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  then they notified Ultraviolet. And then they sent another
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  sample to a different lab in Germany to be tested to make
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  sure basically that it was correct.
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  And these results yielded an SPF 5 S Ultraviolet has refuted
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  these claims and provided proof of their SPF 50 rating.
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  They urgently retested the same batch and it came back with an
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  SPF that's higher than 60. OK, so before I continue, this
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  is a huge deal here in Australia.
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  The UV radiation from the sun here is amongst the strongest in
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  the world. And because of that, sunscreen
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  testing is so intense here. Everyone that I know wears
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  sunscreen every single day, SPF 50 minimum.
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  Like it is such a big deal. You have to wear sunscreen here.
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  Ultraviolet is my sunscreen. I have worn it every single day
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  since they launched about six years ago.
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  Literally every single day. I haven't worn this one.
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  This is their zinc sunscreen. I wear their mineral sunscreen.
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  However, obviously when I found this out, I was freaking the
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  fuck out. I was like screaming.
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  I was like SPF 4. Like, are you fucking kidding
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  me? You know, I'm so pale.
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  My mom has a history of skin cancer and we're Canadian.
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  Like she did not grow up or, you know, in the Australian sun at
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  all. Like she lives in Canada, OK,
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  and she gets skin cancer. So I was like, I am so fucked if
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  I have been wearing like essentially no protection every
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  single day for this many years in the Australian sun.
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  I was like, I am so screwed. And this is so dangerous for
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  anybody else that has been and wearing their sunscreen.
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  So that's how I was feeling. I was feeling very, very, very
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  betrayed. Like I said, Ultraviolet is
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  refuting these claims saying we have tested this.
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  It is still SPF 60 plus to us. Like Choice.
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  Show us your receipts. So overnight Choice did release
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  their receipts to prove where they got their samples tested
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  and to also show their testing did come back with these
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  ratings. The main criticisms here are
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  that based on the receipts that they've provided and all the
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  information, Choice used a small number of people to test the
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  sunscreen on. It's presumed about 13 people,
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  whereas ultraviolet, they tested it on 30 people.
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  And also that Choice decanted the sunscreen to ship it off and
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  test it. So tons of cosmetic chemists are
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  coming out on TikTok saying likely the decanting process
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  along with it being like shipped internationally in different
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  conditions possibly destabilize the product which changed its
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  SPF. However, choice has hit back
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  again saying well, they decanted all of the sunscreens, including
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  the zinc ones. Like all the sunscreens they
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  tested, they all decanted into the same type of bottle like
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  these amber bottles. And the second lowest rating
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  that they got was SPF 24. So there is a significant
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  difference between SPF 24 and SPF four.
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  One of the best explanations that I've seen from this is from
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  at Emily cosmetic chemist on TikTok, who basically said that
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  after all of these receipts, after all the information that
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  we have, it's likely that ultraviolet zinc sunscreen
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  formula is really just like not that stable.
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  She was like, I do believe that ultraviolet is getting SPF 60
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  plus and I do believe that choice got SPF 4.
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  She thinks the decanting process along with the fact that
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  Ultraviolets batch that they've been testing has been kept in a
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  lab this whole time. So like, it's not being shipped,
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  it's not on shelves, it's not in any other type of bottle.
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  It's being kept at their warehouse to like continually
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  test that specific batch. So she was like, all of those
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  variables contribute to the fact that I think that both of these
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  companies got the results they claim they did.
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  But it's troubling that choice still got SPF 4.
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  So Emily is advocating for labels on sunscreens that
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  basically say, like, do not decant this.
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  She was like, so many people decant their sunscreens to go on
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  vacation, to travel, like all of that.
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  Basically just like taking the sunscreen and putting it in a
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  different bottle, like a smaller bottle so you could travel or
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  whatever. Decanting is different than
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  applying it, obviously. But she was like, yeah, people
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  do that all the time. And we need to have proper
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  labeling on this that says like, do not do that.
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  She was like, you know, some people might think that's
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  obvious, but like on cartoons of milk, we have big, bold letters
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  that say keep this refrigerated or, you know, after opening, put
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  this in the fridge, whatever. So she was like, this stuff
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  isn't actually as obvious to consumers as I think some people
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  maybe who work in the industry or who are really into
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  sunscreen, skin care, beauty, whatever might think.
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  And she was like, yeah, we need more education around that.
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  If it can destabilize a product this much, Like, we need some
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  labels on this. And I mean, that's the same for
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  me. Like, I used to be a beauty
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  journalist. OK, I was mostly makeup, but
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  still, like, a beauty journalist.
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  I had no idea that pumping your sunscreen into a different
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  bottle could change the SPF. That would never cross my mind.
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  I will say I've had a very good experience with ultraviolet.
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  I've never been burned, but it still freaked me the fuck out.
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  So hopefully we can get to the bottom of this.
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  The TGA has been, you know, obviously notified and saying
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  that they are looking into it. So hopefully we get some answers
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  soon because this sunscreen is not cheap.
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