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- 2:03Speaker 1: Bloomberg business flash, Thank you very much. Charlie palis taking
- 2:06Speaker 1: a look at President Obama's visit to Japan. The Japanese
- 2:10Speaker 1: Prime Minister talking about the potential for a global crisis,
- 2:15Speaker 1: warning of a risk on the scale of Lehman Brothers
- 2:18Speaker 1: if appropriate policies are not taken. What are those policies?
- 2:22Speaker 1: What exactly is the Prime Minister referring to. That's why
- 2:25Speaker 1: we have Mark Chandler. He is the global head of
- 2:27Speaker 1: currency strategy for Brown Brothers Harriman and he can be
- 2:31Speaker 1: followed on Twitter at Mark m a r C. Making
- 2:35Speaker 1: sense alright, Mark makes some sense for us. What is
- 2:38Speaker 1: Prime Minister Shinzo Abe talking about? Thanks him, I don't
- 2:42Speaker 1: think he's really talking about what he's talking about. I
- 2:44Speaker 1: think what he's talking about is his own domestic issues
- 2:47Speaker 1: and what it's happening. Is it next to April? Japan
- 2:50Speaker 1: is scheduled to raising sales tax on consumption from eight
- 2:53Speaker 1: percent to ten percent. The big movie to push against it,
- 2:57Speaker 1: and the only way Abiter Japan say he will avoid it,
- 3:00Speaker 1: he will he will push it out is if there's
- 3:03Speaker 1: a Lehman like crisis, and so of course he's got
- 3:05Speaker 1: a warrant of the list of a Lehman like crisis
- 3:08Speaker 1: for domestic purposes, not that he's really saying we're on
- 3:11Speaker 1: the verge of such a crisis. Well, you know when
- 3:15Speaker 1: is there's a certain things stand out in your mind. Mark,
- 3:17Speaker 1: I will never forget in when the consumption tax have
- 3:24Speaker 1: been passed by Japanese lawmakers, it was clear the economy
- 3:28Speaker 1: was slowing down. And used to sit there as a
- 3:29Speaker 1: journalist or as a you know a trade or whatever,
- 3:31Speaker 1: say don't do it, don't do it, and they did,
- 3:33Speaker 1: and they helped push their economy over the edge. Is
- 3:35Speaker 1: this another situation? And how I runic? What how many
- 3:39Speaker 1: years thirty years later? Is it possible they're about to
- 3:42Speaker 1: make them the same mistake if they do raise that
- 3:44Speaker 1: consumption tax exactly kept and they raised it a couple
- 3:47Speaker 1: of years ago, they raised it from five to eight percent,
- 3:50Speaker 1: partly because the I M. S at the time was
- 3:52Speaker 1: pushing them too, because Japan has the debt that makes
- 3:55Speaker 1: it it makes Greece almost look solvent. Japan is debt
- 3:59Speaker 1: to GDP is something close to about two. And so
- 4:03Speaker 1: the idea is and how is Japan going to consolidate
- 4:05Speaker 1: its fiscal situation? And the idea was raised the value
- 4:08Speaker 1: added tacks, which is low in Japan compared to other countries.
- 4:12Speaker 1: And when they did this, the Japanese the Japanese official said, oh,
- 4:15Speaker 1: we're gonna have a small downturn. But a couple of
- 4:18Speaker 1: years later they still haven't fully recovered from that tightening
- 4:22Speaker 1: of fiscal policy, because remember what opty was about ebonomics
- 4:25Speaker 1: was stimulating fiscal policy on a SX monetary policy and
- 4:30Speaker 1: which was working. The economy was growing, and then they
- 4:33Speaker 1: raised the sales tax pushed them into uh slower gear
- 4:37Speaker 1: or even a recession. So Marcus, this just really a
- 4:40Speaker 1: way of asking Janet Yelling and the other members of
- 4:42Speaker 1: the f O m C to please not raise interest
- 4:44Speaker 1: rates this year. Yeah, it's kind of interesting, Tim that
- 4:47Speaker 1: they would do that, but I suspect that at the
- 4:50Speaker 1: end of the day, this isn't really about U S policy.
- 4:52Speaker 1: In fact, just the other day, the I think it
- 4:54Speaker 1: was at Bloomberg News had the story of the vice
- 4:57Speaker 1: president of the e C e a federate hike. I
- 5:01Speaker 1: think the Japanese would like to federate's interest rates because
- 5:03Speaker 1: what would that do. They would make the interest rate
- 5:05Speaker 1: differential between the U S and Japan wide and out,
- 5:08Speaker 1: and would attract more money of the US and allow
- 5:10Speaker 1: the end to weaken after strengthening so much this year. Besides,
- 5:15Speaker 1: this issue of the domestic economy in Japan and what
- 5:19Speaker 1: is going on. The Japanese have another big issue, and
- 5:23Speaker 1: it's Japan's maritime proposals and the dispute with China over
- 5:28Speaker 1: some islands. This is something that never seems to really
- 5:31Speaker 1: boil over into a crisis, but never seems to go away.
- 5:33Speaker 1: What is it? What is what is on the table
- 5:35Speaker 1: at this G seven meeting of anything? Yeah, the good question.
- 5:39Speaker 1: I do think that it's the geopolitics is really first there.
- 5:43Speaker 1: I think in terms of what the Japanese ultimately interested
- 5:45Speaker 1: from rest of the world, and that is that they
- 5:47Speaker 1: need some support because what happened is that acceptal factors
- 5:52Speaker 1: at play here. But what happens a couple of years ago,
- 5:55Speaker 1: the governor of Tokyo nationally basically nationalized some islands, and
- 5:59Speaker 1: these lands were in dispute the Chinese going back to
- 6:03Speaker 1: sixties and early seventies. The Chinese basically say, we had
- 6:07Speaker 1: this dispute here, but let's not settle it. Let's let's
- 6:10Speaker 1: just like, let's let's not address this. Let's smarter people
- 6:12Speaker 1: than us. I think Jpe once said, let this next generation,
- 6:15Speaker 1: smarter people than us, resolved this very thorny topic. But
- 6:19Speaker 1: instead the Japanese sort of say that sort of woke
- 6:22Speaker 1: the sleeping dogs by nationalizing these islands, and the Chinese
- 6:25Speaker 1: cannot just let Japan resolved the issue by FIAT. And
- 6:30Speaker 1: so I know that the US and look at the
- 6:32Speaker 1: U S stress a lot of stories about how China
- 6:34Speaker 1: is building out these islands, basically doing some landfill, making
- 6:37Speaker 1: these shoals and tiny islands into larger places that can
- 6:40Speaker 1: be militarized. Would say, say, uh, landing for airplanes. What's
- 6:46Speaker 1: happening is many countries in East Asia are doing the
- 6:48Speaker 1: same thing, the Philippines, for example, also doing this, the Vietnamese,
- 6:52Speaker 1: the Taiwanese, and so I think this is a like
- 6:55Speaker 1: a tinder box, uh, that that could turn into something
- 6:59Speaker 1: more serious if the US and other countries do not
- 7:03Speaker 1: hold their allies into account. Mark Chandler, thank you so
- 7:07Speaker 1: very much, Mark Chandler. He's Global head of Currency Strategy
- 7:11Speaker 1: at Brown Brothers Harriman. As the G seven Heads of
- 7:16Speaker 1: State Summit is taking place in Japan, uh, the Japanese
- 7:20Speaker 1: Prime Minister Mr ab talks about the possibility of a
- 7:24Speaker 1: crisis like we saw with the Lehman Brothers collapse, back
- 7:27Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight, but his Mark points out
- 7:29Speaker 1: he's really just trying to get people fired up about
- 7:32Speaker 1: the threat of a consumption tax being passed in Japan.
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