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How to teach kids respect, not fear, around firearms · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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  In this political Coliseum, we slay the rising beast with the fateful sword of truth that transcends hypocrisy and censorship.
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  It's time to unleash yourself from the tyrants of media propaganda on the America Out Loud Talk Radio Network.
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  This is Unleashed the Political News Hour.
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  This is Unleashed the Political News Hour on the America Out Loud Talk Radio Network.
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  I'm Chris Cordani, your host for this edition of the show.
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  We have a lot to discuss today.
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  Later on, I have my panel from Project Sentinel with a very special guest, David Cox, and he is the author of a book called This Is a Gun.
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  It's a book aimed at young children about gun safety.
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  It's also an aid for parents and possibly teachers in some areas to help young kids learn how to deal with guns.
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  It's it's a tough world out there.
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  I'm not saying we're asking kids to go to the shooting range.
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  No one's asking about that.
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  This is for six to ten year olds, pretty much.
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  We're asking kids to understand what a gun is and understand that it's dangerous.
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  Understand that it could be loaded.
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  And if a friend tries to pull one out as at a sleepover, or you see one dropped in the bushes on the side.
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  It tells you what to do.
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  And it lets you understand, hey, or lets your kids, let's the kids understand, hey, this is uh this is a dangerous weapon that's in your vicinity.
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  Do what be safe.
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  And I don't want to give everything away.
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  You're gonna have to listen to us a little bit later on, but uh David Cox explains the all of this in the book, and he talks to our panel.
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  We're gonna have uh Lieutenant Colonel Tim Wilson, we're going to have uh uh Jay Homnik, and we're gonna have Carolyn Parlato on with us later on in the program.
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  Happenings, yes, I know Iran, the whole thing, the Strait of Hormuz then's continuing.
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  While many people are just talking about the Iran conflict, remember, this goes much farther.
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  We see we see terrible prices at the pop.
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  It's almost uh we're we're getting nightmares of the Joe Biden era when it comes to gas prices right now.
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  They could come down soon, even if the conflict continues.
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  Why do you ask?
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  I understand speculators are going to try to keep the prices up anyway.
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  That's how it works.
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  The deep state probably owns less than it did a long time ago thanks to the destruction of USAID, and thanks to the people's revolts in many countries through the voting booth.
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  Something the globalists were hoping that they could uh manipulate and cheat their way out of.
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  But they still probably control speculators.
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  The idea is keep the speculators uh guessing that oil prices are gonna stay high.
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  The fact is, Donald Trump is going to try to work past that.
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  The plan is not to just eradicate Iran.
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  I understand a lot of people are saying, yeah, get rid of them, turn it into a parking lot.
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  Now there are regular people there.
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  You don't want to do that sort of thing.
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  The Mulahs have to go.
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  Having said that, the truth is what Donald Trump is trying to do, when you look at the bigger picture, you'll get uh reopening the Panama Canal, gaining a little more control through the agreement about Greenland with the Northern Passage.
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  And yes, uh controlling the Strait of Hormuz, hopefully, or at least uh keeping Iran from an iron fisted control of the Strait of Hormuz, not only throttles China a bit, oh wait, I forgot.
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  Venezuela.
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  That's right.
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  We have we finally have a president who had the cajones to tell Venezuela, you guys.
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  Chavez, by the way, your predecessor, Maduro Chavez, took seized American assets, American oil refinery assets from your country, nationalized it.
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  We're just taking back what's ours.
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  Barack Obama did not have the guts to do that.
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  Trump, first time around, I'm sure he wanted to, but he needed more time.
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  You know, Biden wouldn't do that.
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  He had to comply with the globalists.
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  With the disruption of their socialist government and a just disruption it was.
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  America has more control over the flow of oil from Venezuela.
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  That means Cuba's getting hurt.
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  I know your uh some of your friends' favorite celebrities were in the five-star hotels and telling everybody how wonderful Cuba was while regular people had to deal with rolling blackouts and starvation, things like that that usually happen during a communist seizure of government or a communist stranglehold of government, I should say.
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  However, they're gonna suffer.
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  China is being throttled through all of this as a consumer.
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  And it's good because let's put it this way.
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  They're trying to push this uh garbage uh wind tunnel uh wind and uh and solar energy on everybody else.
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  You ever notice they make all the crap and they never use it?
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  It's like the pusher in the playground at high school.
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  He's like, uh, don't worry, Ma.
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  I don't take it, I just sell it.
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  The fact is, he knows the the effects of the drugs.
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  He knows they're harmful.
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  He's not gonna use it.
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  That's that's perfect.
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  A perfect red flag, if you will.
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  Think about that.
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  China, like a drug pusher, doesn't use the drugs because they know he knows how useless and har useless and or harmful it would be to the whole uh energy system.
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  But pawns off those uh wind turbines and uh and uh and solar panels on suckers in Europe and Canada and formerly the U.S.
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  This isn't aggression.
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  This is payback.
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  This is getting even.
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  But seriously, let's look at the real endgame.
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  What should and likely will transpire when all is said and done, or at least very soon, even before it could be done.
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  Speculators are not.
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  The U.S.
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  winds up being, well, first off, a net exporter, again, like it was last time Donald Trump was president.
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  Then one of the top oil exporters in the world, which will result in, of course, lower gas prices here.
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  People will be very happy.
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  I'm sure he wants this to happen before the midterms.
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  And I have a lot to say about that.
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  We're gonna do more on the midterms and what's going on next week after the Supreme Court decision.
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  We're trying to like hash this out.
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  Well, look what Florida's doing.
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  Florida took a bold move.
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  Virginia's uh gerrymandering, by the way, there's a difference between redistricting and gerrymandering.
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  Redistricting redistricting is color is correcting gerrymandering while gerrymandering is basically what Virginia's trying to do.
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  Uh creates congressional districts advantageous to only one side.
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  Advantageous to only one side.
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  And now they can't even use uh uh fake racism as an excuse.
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  And now they can't even use uh uh fake racism as an excuse.
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  Then after the U.S.
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  Then after the US becomes a net exporter and has more control over the energy flow and trade around the world.
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  becomes a net exporter and has more control over the energy flow and trade around the world.
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  Those who did have the control, the globalists, the globalist cabal, if you will, they're left even less powerful.
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  Those who did have the control, the globalists, the globalist cabal, if you will, they're left even less powerful.
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  They're the ones who said uh during with a position of strength, you will own nothing and you will like it.
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  They're the ones who said uh during with a position of strength, you will own nothing and you will like it.
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  They said this when the globalists were in charge, but no, nope, they're not in charge, they won't be in charge anymore.
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  At least not for a little while because I'm not I'm sure they're not going to I'm I'm I'm sure they're going to fight back and they're not going to rest in their laurels.
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  That's it.
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  That's the best way to put it.
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  Still, Trump's end game is to destroy the globalist power structure, throttle China, and become a net exporter of oil around the world, therefore making things better for the US and its allies, and hopefully demoralize and disintegrate the globalist elite.
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  Again, I know they're gonna find a way to manipulate their way back and fight back and try to gain control again, but we just need to be vigilant.
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  We as the people need to watch them.
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  A lot of European regular people have uh woken up.
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  Took them a while.
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  US, yeah.
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  We woke up a while ago too, many of us.
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  Canadians, I think we have to nudge them a little bit.
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  Straight ahead, let's talk gun safety for children, two children and their families through a book by David Cox, who is one of our special guests.
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  Full disclosure, I'm part of Project Sentinel.
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  I'm the media fellow, media guy, whatever you want to call it, media director.
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  But I'm here with uh my friends from Project Sentinel, the leadership here, or part of the leadership, I should say.
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  Hello.
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  Thank you for being here.
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  Hello, excellent.
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  And we have a very special guest today.
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  Somebody that I interviewed on another show called Book Spectrum.
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  We just go through books, and I I it's not just those uh the regular writers and authors.
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  I want to I like to bring in people from different occupations who wrote a cool book and something very important.
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  That's where David Cox comes in.
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  He is with us now today.
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  He wrote the book.
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  This is a gun, a safety guide for families with children.
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  And let me tell you something.
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  This is very important.
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  Gun safety is important for adults and teens.
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  But children just as much.
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  David, welcome to the show.
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  Hey, Chris, thanks for having me on.
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  Well, let's throw it right out there.
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  You wrote the book.
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  What was the inspiration?
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  Because the idea is not a lot of uh, let's just say books or not a lot of books that deal with safety of firearms or safety, even fireworks or things like that, are aimed at kids, but but should be.
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  Yes, you're absolutely right.
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  Uh, I was inspired by the fact that I'm a gun owner myself.
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  I've been for many years, and then when I uh finally had children, I realized that I was gonna need to educate them about firearms.
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  And I wasn't exactly sure as a new dad how to do that.
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  So I I went out there and I tried to find some good resources, and there's a couple, but I just felt that overall, as far as young kids are concerned, there was just not enough out there to teach adults, teach parents specifically how to educate their young kids about the the dangers of firearms, and then when should they start learning about firearms if that's the path that their family's going down.
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  And I tried to find some good resources, and there's a couple, but I just felt that overall, as far as young kids are concerned, there was just not enough out there to teach adults, teach parents specifically how to educate their young kids about the dangers of firearms, and then when should they start learning about firearms if that's the path that their families going down.
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  So I decided that I was going to write my own book just for my kids.
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  So I decided that I was gonna write my own book just for my kids, and then through that process, I decided that you know maybe I should share.
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  And then through that process, I decided that, you know, maybe I should share this with others, and more people found it was very helpful for their families.
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  And so I decided to try to get it published.
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  And I was very uh fortunate enough to get it published.
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  And now we're we're releasing it nationwide and selling it to gun stores and ranges, and it's you know available nationally.
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  Well, I I'll jump in and just say hi.
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  Um, and I am a uh a strong proponent of the second amendment.
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  And as a child, I was fascinated by guns back in the days when I'm old enough that we had cap guns um as toys and often had jewels and fights.
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  Umfortunately, my uh family background was not such that I ever got taught gun safety until I started shooting.
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  And I've read your book, and I think it's fabulous.
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  I actually think it should be in every school in the country.
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  Um, because they are ubiquitous.
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  Um the facts of the number of guns alone means that the law of unintended consequences is you can try and ban them all you want.
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  In America, not a chance.
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  Almost half the firearms in the world are here in the United States in private hands.
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  And a lot of people, because of the second amendment, are never gonna give them up.
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  Not gonna happen.
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  So they're around, they're around everywhere.
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  And the frightening thought for me was always my grandchildren coming to visit and wandering out in the woods and finding a gun and deciding to play with it.
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  Um and your book answers what they should what to teach them to do.
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  Thank you.
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  Well, you're very welcome, and I appreciate the support.
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  You've really hit the nail on the head there.
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  There, there is over 400 million guns in America.
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  There's about 120 guns per hundred people in America.
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  So I uh let me jump in and just say your figures are out of date.
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  We've been selling guns at a million a month ever since Obama took office.
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  So nearly 20 years.
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  That's 240,000 million guns just in the last 20 five 20 years, you know.
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  Um add that on to what or guns don't go away.
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  They don't tend to break so badly that you can't have them repaired.
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  They uh very few people have them scrapped.
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  The police scrap a fair number of criminals' guns when they confiscate them, but that's about it.
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  They also resell a lot on the civilian market.
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  So I've done a lot of work on the background of this, and I can make my case.
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  You're close, I think we're over 500 million now.
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  Um yeah, um, and it makes you know, if you want to put that into perspective, the government, the military, the police, law enforcement around the country, probably 10 to 12 million guns.
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  We the people have 500 million.
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  It it's a large number.
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  And like you said, it this really isn't about being pro-gun or anti-gun.
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  This is all about being pro-safety, and just understanding that whatever the device may be that could cause danger to children.
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  If there's four or five hundred million of those devices in this country, it behooves every parent in the country to understand the dangers around them and how to educate their children about it.
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  Absolutely.
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  And that's a very common sense message.
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  I also think it would be really good to have this book widely available in schools.
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  I I live in Tallahassee, Florida, and there are a lot of shootings, and usually they're they're not children.
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  I mean, it's not that the it is a danger for children to find a gun, but these are teenagers, and they just don't seem to appreciate that if you fire a gun at somebody, you could kill them.
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  Um, and some of them do, but a lot of them don't.
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  They need to have a much greater understanding of guns and of the danger of guns, and they're not gonna learn it at home, uh, a lot of these kids, but they could learn it in school.
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  You know, funny thing, I when I was younger, I actually learned a little bit of gun safety with toy guns, the camp guns, or things like that.
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  Because whenever uh when my father first gave my brother and I our first camp guns, he would say, don't point it at anybody.
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  This is still dangerous, it might not be real gun, it could still hurt you, and be very safe.
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  Point it up and don't point it anywhere uh straight ahead or anything like that.
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  That's all you need to do.
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  Uh that's that that was part one now.
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  And with a lot of the mentality today, the teachers, a lot of the uh, I guess it gets political at times.
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  Um it's almost verboten to allow kids to play with guns, even the finger guns get in trouble using those at school, the pop-tart guns.
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  They're like the one kid who made a popped gun in school and he got in trouble.
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  The idea is it's funny thing that but kids don't have an outlet to learn gun safety.
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  And this book, uh it's aimed at children in their own verbiage, and uh that's that's also very important.
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  Let's talk about that.
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  David?
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  Well, you're you're right.
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  Um, that there's a lot of communities around the United States that are so anti-gun that it's very common to find that the word gun is never uttered in the house.
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  Uh, that yes, you know, we don't use finger guns in the classroom.
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  Uh, you know, we only sh shoot uh if we have squirt guns, they don't look like guns.
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  Uh and I do think that there is there's some benefit for young children's play to be if they're doing things like squirt guns, where you can't really you can't really teach the four universal laws of gun safety to a child that's using a squirt gun that maybe having guns that don't replicate real firearms in that capacity is probably a good idea.
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  But nerf guns are another story.
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  Nerf guns are a great opportunity for all parents to learn the four universal laws of gun safety and teach that to their children.
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  Yeah, go ahead, have fun, but have a clear set of rules surrounding how we play with Nerf guns, and then make sure that kids know we don't shoot people in the face, faces off limits, you know, that everybody has safety gear on, eyeglasses, uh, and that the four universal laws of gun safety can still apply to a nerf gun fight.
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  And it can teach kids at a young age how to how to respect a firearm.
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  And joining us on the panel is uh one of our uh distinguished fellows here at uh at Project Sentinel, Jay Homnik.
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  Jay Homnik, good morning.
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  Good morning.
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  Jay, of course, uh we're joining us as we're talking about David Cox's new book.
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  Jay, of course, uh we're joining us as we're talking about David Cox's new book.
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  This is a gun.
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  This is a gun.
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  It's a it's a very important fire safety uh gun safety book.
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  It's a it's a very important fire safety uh gun safety book, a firearm safety book.
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  Firearms safety book.
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  How about that?
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  How about that?
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  Aimed at children and in their own language and a nice aid for parents to help their kids.
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  Aimed at children and in their own language and a nice aid for parents to help their kids.
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  And the reason why I said the thing about the toy guns earlier, David, and everybody here on the panel was that uh also you you know what a gun is when you see it.
• 21:17
  And the reason why I said the thing about the toy guns earlier, David, and everybody here on the panel was that uh also you'll you know what a gun is when you see it.
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  It's uh camp guns kind of look like guns, whether they give your rifle or the pistol ones.
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  It's uh camp guns kind of look like guns, whether they can get rifles.
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  But when you're a kid and you've and my father would tell me, look, and if you see a real one like this, just step away from it and tell somebody, tell an adult, tell me, tell your mom, and we'll take care of it.
• 21:41
  Uh what happens, let's say kids don't really know what a gun is.
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  They come or how dangerous one is, they're living in a city, any urban area where some criminal drops his gun in the bushes, a kid accidentally finds it.
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  This is these things happen, especially Tim.
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  You put it you put it together.
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  There are so many legal firearms bought in the many years over the last uh I'd say decade plus, like you said.
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  However, oh let's say a decade, well, I guess two decades almost.
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  However, there are some illegally bought guns that are lying around too.
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  Absolutely.
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  It's one of those things as well.
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  The like I say, the sheer scale of the number of guns involved means that at some stage kids are going to come into contact with guns, whether it be that rough kid at school that brings one in his sack and you know, takes it out of his parents' drawer at home and brings it into a show and tell or um which would cause conniptions and fits all over.
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  And again, David's book is wonderful for telling other kids how to react.
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  And I love the fact that you didn't try and make it scary.
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  Um, they kill, and I love the comparison with night cooking knives in the kitchen or a hot stove, or the drug bottle that your parents may have stored in the bathroom cabinet.
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  Kids are inquisitive, and kids also like to be more grown up than they than they actually are, and that's the one of the problems.
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  They see a gun and they assume that they can start playing soldier or um policeman or whatever, and take down the bad guys, they all think of themselves as the good guy.
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  Um unfortunately, they don't have the mentality to realize that they are not toys, they are truly deadly weapons.
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  That's exactly right.
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  You know, the uh Chris, you're you're right that uh because there is a lot less uh child play with uh firearm type uh toys that children have a much harder time identifying firearms, and what I what I've really discovered is even if a child knows not to touch a real gun, when they if they ever come across one in real life, they don't even know what they're looking at.
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  Yeah, and because they don't know what they're looking at, they see children have great imaginations, and children that never have any experiences around firearms build in their heads what they think a real gun might look like.
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  And like to my own daughter, when I first started writing this book and I started talking to her, uh, you know, her in her head, a real gun, a handgun was like this big.
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  You know, it was enormous two-hand gun.
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  Yeah, enormous hand cannon, right?
• 24:31
  So when she saw pictures of uh six-hour P365 that's like this big, yeah, you know, which is the cover of my book, which is a life-size image of a P365, uh, she thought it was a toy gun because of how small it was.
• 24:48
  So this is the this is one of the big things that I try to help parents with is this book helps children know what to do if they ever see one, but also really importantly, it helps children identify what a real handgun might look like in real life.
• 25:04
  How do you do that on their terms, uh, David in the book?
• 25:06
  I know I mean, I know we've seen the book, but for those who are listening who haven't read the book yet and can get it on Amazon, by the way, and we'll talk about that too.
• 25:13
  But um, how do you go about explaining something like that to a child six to ten years old on their terms?
• 25:20
  Yeah, it's it's really simple because we do it every day with our children with every other safety issue in our house.
• 25:28
  We do it like we've talked about already a little bit.
• 25:31
  We do it with knives, we do it with a stove.
• 25:34
  You know, we do it with electrical outlets, we do it with riding bikes and swimming lessons, is we just approach these things as calmly as we can, as often as we can, and we we just redirect the child it when necessary.
• 25:48
  A stove is hot.
• 25:49
  You need to understand this.
• 25:50
  You're not old enough yet to use a stove.
• 25:52
  When you get older, you're gonna learn how to use a stove.
• 25:55
  Same with a sharp knife.
• 25:56
  You're not old enough yet to use a sharp knife.
• 25:59
  That's what daddy and mommy do in the kitchen.
• 26:02
  But you need to understand that if you touch this the wrong way, it's gonna cut you and it's gonna hurt you.
• 26:07
  So we teach it to them with love.
• 26:09
  We teach it to them with with calm, uh, direct uh direct uh appropriate authority.
• 26:17
  And we also need to pay attention to our own children.
• 26:20
  We all know our children better than anybody else.
• 26:22
  We know when they're in the right mood to listen and when they're not.
• 26:26
  So it's definitely not something that you want to push upon them uh if they're not in the mood to hear it.
• 26:32
  You just basically approach them, start talking about it.
• 26:36
  If they seem distracted, let it go.
• 26:37
  Come back to it, you know, and and just keep doing that.
• 26:40
  Children learn through repetition, and it's really important that they they also learn a lot of different scenarios where a gun might be located.
• 26:49
  That's why we do multiple scenarios in the book.
• 26:52
  So we we pose that question to them as many times as possible, and it's up to parents to continue that that conversation.
• 26:58
  So a parent can approach a child and teach them the basic lessons, which are don't touch, run away, find an adult, get them to repeat that back, and then the next week get them to repeat that back again, but then bring it up in a new situation.
• 27:12
  Say, hey, what if what if you are in the woods and you come across a gun in a backpack?
• 27:17
  What should you do then?
• 27:17
  Get them to repeat it back to you there.
• 27:19
  Okay, let's say you're over at a friend's house and they have like a shed in the backyard.
• 27:23
  What if you find a gun in the shed in the backyard?
• 27:25
  What should you do then?
• 27:26
  Get them to repeat the same the same three steps back.
• 27:29
  Don't touch runaway, find an adult.
• 27:31
  And so you can just keep giving it to them in multiple scenarios so that they never have to figure it out on their own.
• 27:38
  Because that's something that children are really bad about doing is extrapolating information.
• 27:43
  So they may know, oh, I saw the example of a gun in a drawer, and so I know not to touch a gun in a drawer.
• 27:51
  But if you don't also give them other ideas, they may see a real gun on the floor of a garage and go, well, that's not a gun in a drawer, that's a gun on the floor of the garage.
• 28:00
  Different rules apply now.
• 28:00
  Different rules apply now.
• 28:01
  So that's why it's important to keep giving them examples.
• 28:01
  So that's why it's important to keep giving them examples.
• 28:05
  If I may bring Jay in here, I'd just like to ask Jay's got quite a lot of expertise on Israel.
• 28:05
  If I may bring Jay in here, I'd just like to ask Jay's got quite a lot of expertise on Israel.
• 28:11
  And how do they uh handle teaching kids that well?
• 28:11
  And how do they uh handle teaching kids that well?
• 28:17
  I think because the parents uh are much more likely to be carrying a gun at certain points in their life when they're on uh reserve duty or things like that.
• 28:17
  I think and because the parents uh are much more likely to be carrying a gun at certain points in their life when they're on uh reserve duty or things like that, or well, depending on certain neighborhoods.
• 28:27
  Or depending on certain neighborhoods, they may wear a gun every day.
• 28:32
  So they they get exposed early, and they uh the parents make them aware of the several bit and they're much more like the uh taking this joy.
• 28:44
  I I had a friend uh growing up here to uh in the United States in Pittsburgh.
• 28:50
  I mean, I didn't I didn't grow up in Pittsburgh, but he did.
• 28:53
  And uh his father was a steel miner.
• 28:55
  His dad was out of work, and him and his brother were playing it in the parents' room, they opened the drawer, they found a gun.
• 29:03
  His brother pulled out the gun and pulled the trigger.
• 29:07
  And they sat missed them by uh you know Miller uh made us uh I mean then they panic from that point forward, but uh and then you touch again and they you know tell the mother and all that.
• 29:22
  But the idea is it has done before that process starts, and and it's uh it's at the same time you you normalizing it on the one hand, and also identifying it as a scar across bones and type of situation.
• 29:41
  That's an interesting way to handle that.
• 29:43
  And uh yeah, uh again, cultures really need to look at uh look at items that aren't safe.
• 29:50
  We uh Dave, you mentioned before, uh we learn about uh not touching a hot pot.
• 29:55
  We learn about staying uh not uh staying away from boiling water, I guess.
• 30:00
  Uh not putting pennies in when you're when you're little, you learn not to put a penny in the outline.
• 30:04
  Although some kids are still a little curious about that sometimes.
• 30:08
  But that's some sometimes that's the red button pull or red button push, that's sorry, red lever pull, that sort of thing.
• 30:13
  But the idea is kids kids just need to know everything that's oh kids need to know um where everything is, what dangers there are around everyday life, and how to handle it, even at a young age, because that could save a life.
• 30:28
  It really could.
• 30:29
  And Jay, you were talking about that.
• 30:30
  How many times the kid just picked up a gun accidentally pulled the trigger?
• 30:35
  Yeah, it's it's really tough to hear those stories.
• 30:39
  It really is.
• 30:41
  It's it's interesting to me as well.
• 30:43
  I I have some experience as well with the Swiss.
• 30:45
  I mean, there's a nation of cuckoo clock builders and chocolate makers and pacifists, basically.
• 30:52
  And yet, because they uh they're gonna almost every adult ends up doing some military service, and they have shooting clubs that they're very, very they show their shooting comp this major shooting competitions on national TV, and they use that as a uh as an opportunity to pass a message to and them again, their kids are very well trained from about the age of five or six.
• 31:17
  Um, you know, Daddy and or Mummy might may have a gun at home.
• 31:21
  It will be locked in a cabinet, no question.
• 31:24
  But they will show the kids and they will explain to them.
• 31:26
  This is for when, you know, when you're grown up, or when you get to old enough in school, you can join the shooting club there after school, after school hours.
• 31:36
  And guess what?
• 31:37
  Gun safety is the principal and prime thing that they get taught over and over and over.
• 31:42
  And if they get it wrong, if they play around with a gun, um the the Swiss can be quite strict parents, should we say?
• 31:53
  Absolutely.
• 31:54
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• 31:57
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  David, uh, let's let's get into another aspect of gun safety around the house.
• 35:59
  Children should know as well, because they can they can wind up at some other kid's house, and this is another issue there.
• 36:06
  But storage, where the gun goes and how to kind of well leave it there and make sure your friend, if you were to sleep over, doesn't pick it up and play with it.
• 36:17
  Yes, gun storage is the cornerstone of any uh gun safety protocol in any family's home.
• 36:26
  And if all guns were locked and stored, there would be no accidental deaths occurring.
• 36:32
  But unfortunately, every year we are still seeing hundreds to low low 1000s of children's either either deaths or severe injury due to accidental discharges.
• 36:44
  So that means that while we may be responsible gun owners and responsible parents, we can't control the outside world.
• 36:52
  And so that's why it's so important to educate our children about identifying guns and what they should do if they ever see one, so that we can basically proof them against unintended accidents that that could happen outside of our control.
• 37:11
  Uh and on gun storage, um, a lot of people don't think about it when they first buy a gun.
• 37:18
  They tend to think about buying the gun, then the ammunition, then maybe the cleaning stuff, and eventually they might work around to where they're gonna store it.
• 37:27
  My first immediate reaction is everybody has a lockable drawer somewhere.
• 37:33
  Um, and you know, if that's the best you can do, that's the best you can do, but start there.
• 37:38
  And the other one is of course, high shelves.
• 37:41
  Little kids are the most the most at risk, and the higher the shelf you can put it on, especially if there's nothing easy to drag over so they can climb up.
• 37:50
  Um, you know, again, anything is better than nothing.
• 37:54
  Um, I take your point.
• 37:56
  It'd be great if everybody had a gun safe.
• 37:58
  I think most serious gun owners do.
• 38:00
  Um, but I also worry about guns in cars.
• 38:04
  An awful lot of people don't lock that cars, but they'll leave a gun in it.
• 38:08
  Um, and the kid and how can I put it?
• 38:11
  Pre-teens and younger sometimes know that if they're not from a good background, um, it's not unknown for them to find a gun in a car and start showing it to their friends.
• 38:25
  One of the biggest sources, excuse me.
• 38:28
  I was just gonna say one of the biggest sources of illegal guns or guns that are used in crimes uh in my town are guns that are stole stolen from people's cars.
• 38:39
  People are so careless about leaving them in a car.
• 38:43
  It's a huge problem.
• 38:48
  Jay?
• 38:49
  Jay?
• 38:50
  Jay, what were you saying?
• 38:52
  My point was that uh a lot of people let's say have the gun and the gun safe, but they pull it out before they go to sleep and put it under their pillow.
• 39:00
  Yes, because they don't want to have to fumble with a safe in the middle of the knife, and uh, which is fine if you have a very disciplined system of putting it away every morning before you do anything else.
• 39:11
  But if you're running to work and you leave it under the pillow, that is a danger for the kid to you think your kid hasn't drifted to your parents' bedroom, you know, but they really do.
• 39:23
  Absolutely.
• 39:23
  It's another one of responsible gun ownership is um not as easy as people think.
• 39:31
  Uh it's not as simple as I will never do this, that, or the other.
• 39:35
  Circumstances come up in which situations change and it and where we the human being are often naturally lazy, if I can put it that way.
• 39:45
  I've certainly learned to be since I retired.
• 39:47
  That can happen.
• 39:49
  Um the coffee table, but that can happen.
• 39:55
  You're 100% right.
• 39:56
  Yeah.
• 39:57
  And the and the one of putting it behind um under your pillow or behind the cushion on the sofa, uh, is very common.
• 40:06
  Um, and uh, and as Carolyn rightly says, theft from cars is a huge one.
• 40:12
  I mean, it is the main source for criminals, but it also happens with young kids.
• 40:17
  And and dare I say um parents who run into the shop to buy something, leaving the kids in the car and leaving their gun in the car.
• 40:28
  It happens.
• 40:29
  Um, there are so many circumstances, and that's where David, your book is honestly excellent, because it covers, if you like, the majority of circumstances, including, you know, if if they suddenly spot a gun in the car, hopefully they'll get out, run away, and find the parent to say, hey, you've left a gun lying on the floor of the car.
• 40:51
  Well, that leads to the next question.
• 40:53
  A lot of the kids, it's peer pressure sometimes to a lot of kids, and a lot of kids watch television.
• 40:58
  They say, Wow, the uh the good guys are shooting the bad guys up with the guns, or the bad guys hold the guns a really cool way, you know, the sideways gun of the Glock and everything.
• 41:08
  And one friend inevitably is going to go to another friend and say, Hey, you want to see something cool.
• 41:14
  Walk upstairs, opens a safe, opens a closet, and there's the gun.
• 41:20
  You talk about that situation, obviously, uh, David, but let's talk about that now.
• 41:24
  That that's actually uh one of the the hardest moments in the book, because and I really want parents to understand this moment, which is that there's a scenario there, which is what if your friend is holding a gun and wants to show it to you.
• 41:42
  What do you do?
• 41:43
  The child the reason I put this in the book is because children are are just naturally kind.
• 41:49
  Children are naturally protective of their family and friends, and so the natural instinct of a child that has a good education about firearms is going to want to first tell their friend to put it down.
• 42:00
  First, tell their friend to put it down.
• 42:02
  That's what they're going to want to do first.
• 42:02
  That's what they're gonna want to do first.
• 42:04
  Put it down.
• 42:04
  Put it down, get rid of it, just let it go.
• 42:06
  Get rid of it.
• 42:07
  Just let it go.
• 42:09
  And that is a dangerous situation to be in.
• 42:09
  And that is a dangerous situation to be in.
• 42:12
  That is what can cause more accidents.
• 42:12
  That is what can cause more accidents, and unfortunately, it's part of learning about life, which is that in a scenario like this, you have to put yourself first.
• 42:15
  And unfortunately, it's part of learning about life, which is that in a scenario like this, you have to put yourself first.
• 42:22
  It's almost like in the airplane when the safe when the air, the uh the oxygen masks release and they
• 42:22
  It's almost like in the airplane when the safe when the air, the uh the oxygen masks release, and they tell the parents to put the mask on themselves before you put it on your kid.
• 42:34
  Well, this is a moment where a kid has to learn, you have to protect yourself first.
• 42:37
  So if your friend is holding a gun, you don't first tell them to put it down.
• 42:42
  You just turn around.
• 42:43
  You immediately leave and you go find an adult.
• 42:46
  Because your friend has your friend has to be responsible for themselves in that moment because just in the act of them putting it down could cause it to go off.
• 42:54
  Yeah.
• 42:54
  So you have to get out of there first and find an adult.
• 42:59
  And that's why I put it in there.
• 43:00
  It's it's probably the hardest page in the whole book.
• 43:03
  Children are kind.
• 43:04
  Wait, what elementary school did you go to become?
• 43:10
  I understand where you're coming from.
• 43:12
  I do understand that they do care about their friends and they stick together.
• 43:15
  And that that's something that's going to be hard for a lot of kids to say, hey, should I tell somebody or try to tell my friend to be a little safe with that and don't touch it?
• 43:23
  Or do I want to be that kid?
• 43:25
  And the fact is, uh you know, or to want to go along just to be just to be cool.
• 43:30
  This is the peer pressure is a big deal with these kids.
• 43:32
  And they and I know you you do help these parents and help help the kids overcome that, at least when it comes to some uh life-threatening situations like this.
• 43:42
  That's right.
• 43:43
  And I think I would not have had a clue what to do.
• 43:47
  So this is a wonderful thing to teach them.
• 43:50
  My dad had a gun room.
• 43:51
  He showed us exactly what the guns were like at uh when we were five or six, seven or eight, because we were going to be around them.
• 43:57
  He goes hunting on hunting trips.
• 43:59
  One of the things I do is a lot of research on uh gun violence and uh what goes on and accidental shootings are a separate category, but they are recorded uh in a lot of places.
• 44:16
  And it's just to me, it's really sad that um because we don't teach kids in schools anymore, you can actually see a blip in the historic trend starting really in the 50s and peaking in about the 80s, um, where by the by the 80s, guns in schools were a completely topic.
• 44:39
  And um, you know, I that if if you start from my basic point, David, of there are so many guns out there, taking basic gun safety out of schools to me is very foolish.
• 44:52
  Now, I I'm a member of the local shooting club, and we start the kids there at six, seven, eight years old.
• 44:59
  Um, and the first thing we teach them is the full basic, and they can all all of the kids, I'm proud to say all of the kids in the local gun club can chant away on these things and actually appreciate um, you know, we we do things like we'll put a uh a pot bottle full of water or even a pop bottle full of pot and use a shotgun on it so that they see the devastating effects with while it's safe, we'll demonstrate it and explain to them.
• 45:29
  And the other thing that then happens is that the figure the trigger finger safety, no gun goes off unless there's something pulls moves that trigger.
• 45:41
  And we teach that as a an absolute priority.
• 45:44
  And I, you know, I I come back to again anything we can do, but I I it's why I would love to see that your book in schools.
• 45:53
  It's such a good guide.
• 45:56
  Thank you.
• 45:56
  That's part of our our goal is to get it into schools.
• 45:59
  It's it's a big part of the the push that's that's going to be focused for you know, 26, end of 26 to 27 is working with school boards trying to get this education out there.
• 46:10
  I think it's great um having children have access to youth shooting sport uh education.
• 46:18
  It's so it's so so important.
• 46:21
  Uh and I do think that there is a benefit to this.
• 46:24
  Unfortunately, we don't have a lot of studies yet, but I do believe I truly believe that when you teach firearms respect at a very early age, yeah.
• 46:36
  Yeah, that that will continue through those tumultuous years of preteen and teenagers as they're figuring out their place in the world, and it becomes less of an option, uh a tragic ser you know, a tragic option for teenagers to choose this uh as a possible outlet for their frustrations.
• 46:57
  If they have been taught gun safety and gun respect from a very early age, it kind of takes it off the table for most.
• 47:04
  And I I do believe that we could see those numbers trending downward if we just started education at a lot earlier age.
• 47:12
  I want to get I want to get all of your thoughts on this because uh another another level to the importance of this is a gun.
• 47:20
  Book that's aimed at children at a very young age.
• 47:23
  Um God forbid there is a time where a teenager, whether 13, 15, 16, 19, or a young adult has to defend his family or defend her family or with a gun, or is it a situation, maybe a bank or with a bugger or somebody else that a gun is involved in.
• 47:47
  Um this book uh gives gives somebody an early advantage about how to uh uh handle such situations and understanding exactly how dangerous a gun could be when it comes to trying to defend yourself for these things or defending family defending your family with the gun or defending yourself from somebody with a gun.
• 48:07
  Um, let's talk about let's talk about that angle.
• 48:10
  Anybody want to start this one?
• 48:12
  We'll start, David.
• 48:13
  We'll start with you and go to Jay, Tim, and uh Carolyn.
• 48:16
  Sure.
• 48:16
  Well, what what you're touching upon here is when really it comes from the parent side of this, which is which is a big um part of this book.
• 48:26
  This book isn't just for the kids, it's for the parents.
• 48:31
  So when the parents read this book to their kids and opens up this conversation about gun safety, it also puts it, puts the onus on the parents to be informed about gun safety.
• 48:42
  And hopefully, you know, the goal is that not only are you educating your children about gun safety awareness, but you're instilling in yourself, especially if you're a firearms owner yourself, right?
• 48:53
  You've bought this book, maybe you bought this book along with your first firearm, or you've taken a class and you've picked up this book as part of one of the first classes or a CCW class, um, and you're taking this home.
• 49:00
  The first classes are a CCW class, and you're taking this home.
• 49:04
  This book then flips the flips the script on the parent and it and hopefully makes them realize like if I'm gonna take this seriously, and I'm gonna be a gun owner, I need to be trained, and I I need to be safe with my firearms.
• 49:04
  This book then flips the flips the script on the parent and it and hopefully makes them realize like if I'm going to take this seriously and I'm going to be a gun owner, I need to be trained, and I I need to be safe with my firearms.
• 49:20
  And it will continue that conversation with their children where once this book becomes uh the the child grows out of the age group for this.
• 49:20
  And it will continue that conversation with their children where once this book becomes the child grows out of the age group for this book and becomes ready to learn about firearms.
• 49:32
  That parent who owns the firearm is going to be also ready to educate the child about how to use a firearm.
• 49:40
  Because a lot of parents who buy a gun for home safety never achieve the appropriate level of safety awareness and of skill to teach their children about firearms.
• 49:51
  It's really only, you know, it's the hunters, it's the farmers.
• 49:55
  But there's a there's a huge number, you know, in the millions of parents out there that buy a gun to protect their families and think that they can just purchase the gun and then they're done.
• 50:06
  You know, and really it's all about the safety education.
• 50:09
  You know, a safe gun owner is going to be the most accurate shot.
• 50:14
  You know, as a safe gun owner is going to be able to be the safest when it comes to an uh dangerous situation, a conflict that they might be in, especially if their child is with them, if they're out in public, like you were talking about at a bank or somewhere else, and there's a situation involved.
• 50:30
  If if a parent is trained with their firearm, they're going to be much safer about how they approach all of these situations and hopefully de escalate instead of pulling it out and using it.
• 50:40
  Uh so yeah, you've you've hit on something really important there.
• 50:46
  Okay.
• 50:47
  Yeah, one of the great stories.
• 50:49
  Uh that I heard from the late uh G.
• 50:53
  Gordon Liddy.
• 50:56
  You know, his wife was a very brilliant woman.
• 50:58
  She uh was worked in the IBM back in the day when they were building the mainframe computers, and yeah.
• 51:05
  And she was well trained in firearms, and then he was in prison, so she was stuck at home uh with young children.
• 51:14
  And uh Bergla rented the home.
• 51:18
  And uh she had it, she got the gun and she had the child with her.
• 51:25
  And instead of addressing the burglar, she was addressing the child, and she was saying to him, you know, honey, mommy's gonna have to shoot this man because he's a bad man.
• 51:35
  He came in to do crime, which uh it's in, you know, you can't do that.
• 51:40
  And uh please don't be afraid.
• 51:43
  This gun is to help us against the bad people.
• 51:47
  And when I shoot him, you may see some blood, but don't be afraid of the blood.
• 51:50
  And so the guy ran out the door, and she never had to take the set because he was so freaked out.
• 51:58
  So you know, it was fascinating.
• 52:00
  We on the one hand, she realized she has to educate the kid on what she's about to do.
• 52:05
  On the other hand, it actually impacted the situation.
• 52:09
  It's a fantastic story.
• 52:11
  I love that.
• 52:12
  Tim Carolyn.
• 52:13
  Well, I just when I grew up, my family had no guns.
• 52:17
  I knew nothing about guns.
• 52:19
  I think the families of quite a few of my friends had guns because this is a place where people hunt.
• 52:25
  Um and I would have known none of the things that are in your book.
• 52:30
  I mean, it just wouldn't nobody would have ever told me anything, and I would not have known what to do in these situations, particularly the one where a child was holding a gun.
• 52:40
  I would say put the gun down and instead of turning and running.
• 52:44
  So I just think this book would be incredibly useful because a lot of people don't own guns, but may encounter them.
• 52:53
  Uh I I have to say this is a gun, a safety guard for families with children.
• 52:58
  It's a safety guard for families.
• 53:00
  And I'll I'll stop by saying, I'm a grandparent.
• 53:04
  I will be buying copies of this, and I would encourage every grandparent, parent to get them for your child and read it yourself.
• 53:15
  Um, it is a wonderful sensible guide to basic gun safety and what kids should do if they find a gun.
• 53:24
  Um, unsupervised, if I can put it that way.
• 53:28
  And uh David, again, the book is uh this is a gun, a safety guide for families with children.
• 53:35
  A very valuable book is uh our friends here from Project Sentinel.
• 53:38
  We we all have said here.
• 53:39
  This is it it's it's an invaluable book, especially if you have children or Tim, like you said, grandchildren.
• 53:46
  It's uh thinking you're maybe uh nieces and nephews.
• 53:48
  Think of maybe even the neighbors' kids point them in this direction.
• 53:52
  That's this could teach respect for firearms, teaching uh gun safety and learning what to do in situations that might be extra might escalate to becoming extremely dangerous or accidentally dangerous, if you will.
• 54:07
  Dave, and where can we find more information about you and the book?
• 54:11
  You can go to our our website, this is a gun.org, and it has a lot of information for parents in general, uh, just not only just about gun safety for young children, but just for parents that are shooters, uh, making sure that they're they're safe at the range and that they're safe coming home from the range.
• 54:32
  Uh, there's a lot of different organizations that can help parents out.
• 54:36
  Uh, Project Child Safe can give you a free lock for your gun.
• 54:40
  And there's a link to filling out a form so that you can get a free lock for your gun on the website in the resources section.
• 54:47
  And of course, the book is available at Barnes and Noble and at Amazon.
• 54:52
  And if you if you don't see it at your local range or your local gun store, just request it.
• 54:58
  Uh, we're distributed through a major firearms distributor as well.
• 55:03
  So they can pick up the book very easily for their for their gun shop.
• 55:07
  Uh if they they want to purchase it wholesale on the website, it's also available that way too.
• 55:15
  If we end up getting the best result, uh if we buy it on your website, or of course I know Amazon is terrible.
• 55:28
  Well, I would say the fastest way to get it to your home is to buy it, yes, either through Amazon or through Barnesand Noble.com is the fastest way to get a single copy into your home.
• 55:38
  Uh, but yes, there's wholes wholesale our website, the website only offers wholesale to uh to retailers.
• 55:45
  Uh so if you want to buy a single copy, you've got to go to a bookstore, you gotta go to Amazon or Barnes and Noble to get it.
• 55:51
  I'm just I'm just looking to see whether we're at Project Sentinel might bulk by a few and use it on them out.
• 55:57
  Absolutely.
• 55:58
  Yeah, the the what I what I'm trying to do is is to make it wholesale available to any organization or group that wants to bulk buy this product.
• 56:00
  What I'm trying to do is to make it wholesale available to any organization or group that wants to bulk buy this product.
• 56:06
  You don't have to have a a brick and mortar retail store uh in order to purchase a wholesale order of this book.
• 56:06
  You don't have to have a brick and mortar retail store uh in order to purchase a wholesale order of this book.
• 56:13
  So we try to make it as easy as possible.
• 56:13
  So we try to make it as easy as possible.
• 56:15
  If you're a church group, if you're a mom's group or or you know, Project Sentinel, any uh law enforcement agency, schools, uh, you know, it's it's available.
• 56:15
  If you're a church group, if you're a mom's group or or you know Project Sentinel, any uh law enforcement agency, schools, uh, you know, it's it's available.
• 56:24
  Right.
• 56:24
  Right.
• 56:25
  I want to thank all of you for joining us today.
• 56:25
  I want to thank all of you for joining us today.
• 56:27
  David, thanks for being with us.
• 56:27
  David, thanks for being with us once again.
• 56:28
  Once again, the book is This Is a Gun, a safety guide for families with children, and this is a gun.com.
• 56:29
  The book is this.
• 56:34
  And of course, you can find Project Sentinel at Project Sentinel.com.
• 56:38
  Tim Wilson, Jay Homnik, Carolyn Parlotto, thank you very much for being with us today, too.
• 56:43
  Enjoy it.
• 56:45
  Pleasure.
• 56:46
  Chris Cordani here.
• 56:47
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• 56:50
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