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Happy Sunday morning. These are your hosts, Boss Dog.
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Big Dog, the Vanilla Gorilla and our host Mr. OG himself.
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What's up fellas? How y'all doing this morning?
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Welcome to Turnbuckles and Stogies.
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It's a little, it's a little early for me.
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I had a long night last night. What's up?
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I had a very long night last night.
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Yes, we had a long. Night watched.
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Watched the rumble from start to finish.
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Oh bro. Or match card.
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It took. They started at 8:00.
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It didn't end till midnight, I think midnight or 12:15,
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whatever it was. So you figure they ran five
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hours for four matches. That was that was a very card
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with that. Those rumble matches were
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awesome. I I don't care what anybody
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says. I think this was probably the
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first year in a while where that they didn't have to overload the
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card with or the rumble matches, They didn't have to overload
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them with legends and and stuff like that OG.
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It's not on. There.
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It's there. Morning, Coop.
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So, so first of all, OG, how do you feel?
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I know you've been sick. Hey, I'm feeling a lot better
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guys. Can you guys hear me OK?
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Yeah. I feel like I'm echoing on my
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end. Not on our end, at least.
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Not over here, so let's talk about the Royal Rumble though, I
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got to say. I mean, let's just start off
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with the. Women.
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'S the fact that Naomi returned at #2.
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And. Jordan Gray showed up, I think
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at #5 as the TNA knockouts, champions.
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Liv came back at #30. Jade came in.
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Oh no, Jade was #30 Liv was. Number no Liv was 30, Jade was
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28 or 27. Yeah, I mean.
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That match alone was I I have to say for the first time in a
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while. And now that Jack showed.
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Up I think. I think that we're in a as I'm
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not going to say where, but them as a company in both the men's
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and women's Division, I think they're loaded pretty strong now
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for the first time in a long time.
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And now being that TNA is streaming on Endeavour.
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Well I I think this is going to be a long term relationship
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because. Because Jordan Grace showed up
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with the belt and they were like the TNA.
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But remember, Mickie James did that.
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I think it was 20/22. She did that, but that was just
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because it was Mickey and they wanted to bring in a legend.
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This has to do with not only not only are they're streaming with
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Endeavour, but at their Bound For Glory pay-per-view.
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Bailey and Monet were in the stands watching Naomi and Triple
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H was actually backstage talking to Scott, Damore and whoever
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else owns it. Now I don't know if it's still
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Anthem or I forget who it is, but I I think it's going to be
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very interesting to see where this goes.
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Cody gets to finish his story. Yeah, Cody at WrestleMania.
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Cody is the 4th guy in history to go back-to-back years and win
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in the Rumble. And and Seth Rollins.
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It was funny because he had walked away, but they showed
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Seth Rollins that when CM Punk came out, Seth Rollins had his
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cup like this and he was like he was just picking his nails.
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He was. Like, but there you're going to
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get Rollins and Punk at Mania anyway.
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I mean that's already, that's already been established.
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That's not even a he didn't have to win the Rumble to establish
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that Punk. I will say Punk looked really,
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really good last night. He didn't look.
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I mean, let's just be honest. He didn't look old.
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He didn't, he didn't look he didn't look run down like he did
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in AW, he actually has some mass to him.
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He didn't look as skinny as he did when he showed up for AEW
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and I I was actually OK with his performance.
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I'm not really a big Sam Punk fan, as everybody knows.
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I know him when, I know him when when he was just starting out
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with the blonde hair and the Pepsi tattoo and you know,
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things like that. So, you know, but yeah, it was a
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great Royal Rumble, man. I mean, barely won.
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She's going for the title. Who she's going to pick.
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I'm going to think she's going to go after her partner, one of
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her. Oh, she no, she is already she's
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she's going against EO. So you know, and it will.
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It was it was an awesome Royal Rumble.
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So now let's turn to another thing.
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Let's turn to the playoffs. Well.
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Well, what are you smoking first?
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I'm smoking the middleman. And where's that from?
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One of our sponsors. And I am smoking the BAMF barbed
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stuff we sent you, You get 10% off your shipping, so.
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Yes, it was. It was, you know.
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All I got to say, man, is today the starts, the playoffs for
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football. The road to WrestleMania started
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last night. The.
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Road to WrestleMania started last night so it's a great
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weekend. Today starts the playoffs so I'm
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going to here's here's my pick for the Super Bowl O GS.
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Not going to like it. It's going to be Baltimore
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Ravens and Detroit Lions. It's going to be the Ravens and
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the Niners. Watch.
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I'm telling you, I'm. I'm a big different with you,
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son. OK, I'm just telling you
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because. Boss nailed it with the Giants
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being in the Super Bowl this year and he's 1000% nailing his
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incorrect picks. I'm going to go with Joey.
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If you look, if you look at the colors, let's just be honest, if
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you look at the colors, it's purple and red.
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It's Niners and Ravens. Well, it's not going to be
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Detroit. OK, so are you saying that
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because everybody's saying that NFL is scripted?
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I'm not saying it's. Scripted.
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Do you think it's scripted because somebody said.
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No, I'm not saying it's scripted.
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I think you put it up. I'm not saying it's scripted,
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but I think. You put it up the other day.
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They had the 49ers up on one side, and it was a it was two
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other teams playing. No.
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Well, no. They actually, if you look at
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what they had, they had the 49ers at the I believe it was at
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the Ravens or the Chiefs with a point with the Super Bowl
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halftime show acts. I think it was the 49ers and the
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Ravens. So I mean, I wouldn't be
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surprised. It's about time they run that
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back anyway. Some some news station in
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Ontario ran it. Yeah.
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That that Reba McEntire was going to join.
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I forgot who the the pop artist was as the halftime show 49ers
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Ravens, Super Bowl. Yes.
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So do you think that NFL is scripted?
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No, I think that I don't think it's scripted, but I think I
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think you know like Tinfoil had on, I think the officials do get
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some nudging from the NFL on calls that will affect the game.
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But I don't think it's, it's scripted.
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I don't think they're the, you know, the team A will be Team B
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24 to 14, no, I don't think. That's going to happen, but I.
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Think I think officials get nudged to make some questionable
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calls and that's why none of them get disciplined when you
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get those egregiously bad calls that everybody can see on both
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sides of the field and. Well, that's not really the fan
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watching. That's a really big word you
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just used. I didn't know you knew those.
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Did you look that open at the source?
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I didn't know you knew what the word egregious.
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Was. I'm slightly educated.
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Listen, we haven't seen you in. How long it it hasn't?
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Well, it also have to remember being filming the going live
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this early. It's killing us is not adequate
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for some of these lounges and it's understandable.
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I get that. I'm not even mad at that.
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I'm not mad at that at all. I understand that it's we're
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working on going to lounges. We actually, February 11th will
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be filming at Iron Horse at 7:00 AM, at 7:00 AM in Hudson.
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So that's. Yeah.
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Brother Iron Horse is done Iron Horse February 11th, so two
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weeks. One of my followers on
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Instagram. So 2 two weeks we'll be filming
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An Iron Horse. I've already spoke to the
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manager. They're taking care of
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everything for us. Thank you, Jim.
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Thank you to the honor. We appreciate you letting us in.
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And I want to say thanks to Taste of Cuber, one of my
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friends on Instagram who hit him up.
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He wants to hang out with us and wants to meet us.
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I told him come up by 7:00. We'll even bring you on his show
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because he's the one that got us in there.
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So, you know, so yeah, on that note, I think we should take
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our, our. We're going to take a quick
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commercial break and we'll be right back.
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What's up everybody? We're back.
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Turnbuckles and. Stuff, we are back.
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It's a little early. Again, we thank everybody for
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jumping on with us this early because God knows it's ass crack
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of dawn to the fact that it was a long night for us last night.
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If you watch the pay-per-view, you know it was a long night
17:28
last night. Black River Tobacco.
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Good morning. Good morning, brother.
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Good morning. Good morning.
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Good morning. So there was there was a lot to
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cover last night I mean there's there's more to it was more to
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cover I mean there's so much to that comes out of this but the
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road to WrestleMania started Cody called this shot he's
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getting Roman at Mania. I think Cody finishes the story.
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And starts a new chapter. And writes and I think he
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finishes that story and he starts writing a new chapters
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champ. And I think it's time for
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Roman's reign to kind of be done.
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And Roman's got to ride off into the sunset now.
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There's nothing left for Roman. Do you?
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Think it's going to be Cody and Punk to have a little bit of a
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storyline, not about the title. How long you?
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Played the great coming out of the coming out of media and
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coming out of the Royal Rumble. Good morning.
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Watching on Roku. Love having starting off.
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Say big wrestling news. Yes, yes.
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Linda, thank you for having us again.
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That is one of the producers of our.
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Show yes, with Roku we we thank you guys for having us.
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Hopefully you guys are enjoying our content that we're putting
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out here for you guys. You know, there's a there's a
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lot of big wrestling news coming out of this, this one
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pay-per-view alone. Was.
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Extra has sparked a ton. I mean look at look at the Kevin
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Owens and and Logan Paul match. I got a question though.
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Go ahead. I got a question.
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I got a question for you. OK.
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What's? Up with the with the four way
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elimination match with Roman Reigns for the title, it seems
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short to me. Seems very short and a sudden
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stop. Yeah I I don't think I don't
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think. I think.
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I I think what happened is either well the women's match
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didn't go too long right. You have to.
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I I think where they they did that four way was when Solo
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interfered the ref was the ref also hurt himself too.
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The ref also hurt himself because I've seen him in the
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corner grabbing his leg and and if you looked at him he was
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wincing like he couldn't he couldn't.
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I thought it. Was part of the.
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I thought it was part of the, you know, the.
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I did too, but I don't know. I mean and that match alone
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though. With those four guys, you don't
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really have to have a long match because they're telling a story.
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With just the way it was odd, just the way it just ended, I
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thought it ended all oh. Absolutely.
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Like, you know, everybody was, you know only a couple people
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kicked out of Finisher and and then you know, for him not to be
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able to kick out of a spear from Roman Reigns, I thought was a
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little. Well, that's what I thought too.
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I thought. I thought like but if you.
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Look at if you look at the way AJ lost, I know he didn't kick
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out of the spear. But the other thing with that is
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you have to look AJ out of all of them.
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AJ kind of took the most abuse out of everybody.
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You know, AJ took the AJ took the brunt of everything from
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everybody. Yes.
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Well here's here's here's what I thought it.
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It looks like to me they didn't have a good finish planned I.
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Don't think. And then somebody gave them the
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okey dokey to end it in the. Somebody I I think they got, I
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think they were given the go home.
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I think Triple H and Shawn Michaels told them.
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To take home, I think, Well, no. Shawn's in NXT.
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It's Triple H and Road Dogg. Yeah, I think they told them to
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take it home. But I think what happened was
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either the women's match went too long or they were going that
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way. Well, yeah, I mean, he's not.
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He's not wrong. Yes, you'll have.
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You're not wrong. You're going to have Knight
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versus Styles and Orton versus solo, I mean.
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You're right. Rich No, absolutely.
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Because if you think about it, when Randy, when Randy got taken
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out, AJ stepped up, AJ got taken out, LA Knight stepped up.
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But AJ is AAJ is back into that heel.
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Lone Wolf AJ Styles gimmick from on his way out of the door when
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he basically said screw the company through you guys, you
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don't want to pay me. I'm just going to walk off by
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myself correct. This is, this is kind of a newer
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you know, club lone wolf kind of adapted style.
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I, which I personally always liked that gimmick as much as I
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liked. No, the only thing I find, I
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mean I get it like even when AJ was, you know, before he got
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hurt, the only thing I said that was different between his WWE
22:33
run, his New Japan run and his TNA one was his.
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His gear isn't as colorful as it used to be.
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Right. It used to be very colorful.
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Like he used to have, Like if he had, he.
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Would have represent, yeah. Does that represent the new AJ
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though? Well, the new, the new AJ is the
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the WWE. Well, the New Japan and WWE AJ
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are kind of the new age AJ. But even when he was in TNA and
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he was running the before he turned lone wolf, he was still,
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he still had that colorful bright colored gear.
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He'd have orange, yellow, gold. I mean now does he go back to
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that? We don't know, obviously, you
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know who knows who goes where. But I mean, I thought that match
23:24
was great. I thought the US title match was
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great. I mean that whole card from top
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to bottom really for four matches including the Rumbles,
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was phenomenal. I mean in the Rumble match you
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had Ivy, Nile and Jordan, Grace, Jordan, Grace and Bianca, Jade
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and Bianca. I mean the the amount of of
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things that you could have coming out of that rumble is
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insane. You're right, Rich, you could be
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bringing back the Bullet Club return, but let's go back to
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what Joey said about Ivy Niles and Jordan Grace.
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I mean those. Are two of the most powerful
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women right now in WWE? Well, no.
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Remember, Jordan's technically not part of WWE.
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I can see if they're going to do a, a, a merger or whatever.
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If they're going to do it, it's going to be you're going to get
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Jordan and Bianca, you're going to get Jordan and Jade, you're
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going to get Jordan and Ivy, you're going to get all those.
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Matches right now I think what it's going to be, if you ask me
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and I think if they're going to stop promoting it, it's.
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Going to be Bianca versus Jade at Mania.
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Bianca versus Jade at Mania because when she threw out when
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when Jade threw out NIA Jax, she stood there and said, I'm not
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bitch, I'm not bitch. Well, let's let's just talk.
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First off, let's just talk about the best return at #30.
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She's been gone for like a year. Let's talk about Liv Morgan.
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Liv came back at #30. At first, was IA little?
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Was IA little kind of like? Just the point that she got
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thrown out. We all thought, honestly,
25:04
everybody thought it was going to be Monet.
25:07
Everybody thought it was going to be Sasha Banks, including me.
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I did. I mean, I'm not mad that it was
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Liv because Liv back to AW. Liv technically never really
25:17
lost the title. She lost to Rhea, but that's
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because she got injured. So if you think about it, she
25:23
never actually physically lost lost the title, if that makes
25:26
any sort of sense. She never got the rematch she
25:29
deserved. But now, if you remember, her
25:33
gear was also a tribute to to Ashley Mazzaro.
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That passed away ten years ago. No, not ten.
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No, It hasn't even been 10 years.
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He. Was that was her.
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She did a tribute gear to her, which was pretty cool, so I
25:51
thought that was great. I'm glad she's back.
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It's going to be interesting to see where they go.
25:55
Andrade's back. I mean, you know what?
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I there's I think in the Rumble match.
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I would have liked to see if, since they were doing that TNA
26:06
crossover, I think Moose would have been a good addition to
26:09
that rumble. Yeah.
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I mean I think that would have been, that would have been
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something to see. Yeah, I don't think Bliss is
26:16
coming back anytime soon, Rich. She just had a baby, so I don't
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think she'll be back anytime soon.
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Pat McAfee was there last night. Oh yeah.
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Pat McAfee, I thought. That was at the beginning.
26:27
I thought that was hysterical. And then did you see him go in
26:31
the Rumble match? Yeah, I thought that That's what
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I'm talking about. I thought that was hysterical.
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So did you hear what the stats on Breaker 23 miles an hour when
26:43
he hits that rope, 23 miles an hour when he hits those ropes?
26:48
That is absolutely unheard of. That guy's a beast.
26:53
Like the fact that. He 23 miles an hour.
26:57
That is insane. Dude, that's like driving a car
27:01
20. 5 miles an hour? No, it's true though, but I I
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think when they when they bring him up, if he's not already
27:13
going to get called up. Never know, he might be on
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Monday. Night.
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I mean, no, tomorrow I even, I don't care.
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When he gets called up there, he's going to be a champion.
27:24
There's not even a there's not an if and or but about it.
27:29
That kid is main event. That kid is main event pitcher
27:31
already. And in case you don't know,
27:35
there's no denying what family he's a part of.
27:39
Yeah, oh. Yeah, there's no there's no
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denying. Look at that color forms.
27:44
Forget the colorful. And the different boots.
27:47
That shit eating grin that he has, he needs.
27:49
To come up because he can do a lot with him, you're right.
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Yes. No, you're 100% right.
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Correct, Rich. But he has and and you know this
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as well as I do. He's got that Scott Steiner shit
28:01
eating grin when he smiles there's no deny and there's and
28:05
he looks. He's built like Scott, looks
28:08
like talks like Scott, but looks like Rick.
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Close your eyes and it it's Scott's there.
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It's it's it's a mixture of Scott and Rick.
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Wait. Here's what I'm He's not going
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to do the math promo because you can't do.
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That do the math. Promo, I can't do it off the top
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of my head. The math promo that it does.
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Well, he did. He no, he did something like
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that in NXT when he was in a parking lot, there was there was
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three. No, no.
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There was three guys and he had a title belt and apparently it
28:35
was three on two somehow. I'm not really sure how that
28:37
works, but obviously he's related to them because he can't
28:41
do math either, but that's OK. He goes, you have 33 1/3% chance
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to. Win.
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Well, no, actually, he did. I lied.
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He did do Steiner. And he goes.
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If you have 33 1/3% chance, win and another 33 and a third.
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Win. Well, he did.
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He did, Steiner. 75% chance win if you have another. 30 No,
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that's not even. That's not it.
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It's that's that's not even close.
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She totally messed that up. So it doesn't don't do the promo
29:01
anymore. Thank you.
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We'll be right back with the interview of the week and then
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we'll have some fun. We'll talk cigars.
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What is, What is? What is here?
30:50
We're coming back with the interview of the
31:03
So would you would you like to introduce our our guest today?
31:09
Yeah. So ladies and gentlemen, coming
31:11
to you today here at Turnbuckles and Stogies, we've got a very
31:15
good friend of mine, Casa Carbalo, and my friend Mario.
31:21
Good morning, Mario. Welcome to Turnbuckles and
31:24
Stogies. What's up, Mario?
31:26
Good morning, Sir. I know it's very early in the
31:29
morning for you, my man. Good.
31:32
Morning, guys. How you doing?
31:33
Morning. Hi my friend.
31:35
How are you? I'm doing good.
31:38
I've been here enjoying your conversation.
31:41
So is this one of the earliest podcast you've done?
31:45
Yeah. Hey, it's it's raining here.
31:49
It's been raining all night. It's a nice cool risk.
31:53
Morning. So.
31:56
Black River Tobacco, said Woohoo Super Mario.
31:59
Hey, good morning. Good morning, Frank.
32:04
I hope you're doing well, brother.
32:06
And Black River Tobacco, man. You guys got to bring Frank on
32:10
also. We actually had him.
32:11
We had him last. Week.
32:13
Oh, you had him last week, Yes. No.
32:15
Was it last week or the week? Before I think.
32:17
It was last week, so talk about a great human being a.
32:21
Great, man. He's awesome.
32:23
You know, absolutely. This guy, this guy has been
32:27
through a lot of stuff, did a lot of good stuff for America.
32:32
Doing his service with the ATF, you know, and he's humble.
32:38
He's got a big heart, a lot of love in his heart.
32:45
Great American man. We need more people like him
32:49
around and he's got a beautiful family by the way.
32:52
He's got a beautiful family and some wild ass.
32:56
Nice dogs too. Got beautiful dogs?
33:04
Are you going to be at the game today?
33:05
He. Said go Chiefs will be will be
33:08
the game today. Yeah, I'm sorry, brother.
33:10
I'm going with the Ravens. Hey, you never know.
33:15
You never know what the Chiefs can do, man.
33:17
It's any given Sunday. They're not going to beat that
33:20
defense. Well, you it's it's you're going
33:23
to. Let's just wait and see.
33:24
How about that, Jesus? So, Mario.
33:27
Wait and see. God damn.
33:29
You and I were talking yesterday, so you did an event.
33:33
I think it was Saturday. Yeah, at No.
33:37
Friday night we did an event at North Local Cigars.
33:42
It's a veteran owned joint. You know, nice little cigar
33:46
lounge. It's beautiful.
33:48
It's got a first floor and then it's got a second floor with a
33:52
private VIP area. Very nice human door.
33:59
Bob is a great guy. His wife was also there works
34:02
there and great crowd man, Navy crowd, right.
34:10
Those Navy boys know how to how to smoke and they know how to
34:13
party. You know what I mean?
34:15
And great, great group of guys, let me tell you from the
34:20
youngest guy who showed up to the oldest guy who was there and
34:24
we had a little old Vietnam vet there, you know, and he was a
34:29
tunnel rat in Vietnam. One of first and was talking
34:34
about all his stories. That's a young 19/20/22 year
34:38
old, you know, and the crap he went through, right.
34:42
And you know it's interesting when you sit down and you listen
34:47
to somebody, you look in the into their eyes and as they tell
34:52
you their story, you don't interrupt.
34:55
You just sit there and listen and you can see in their eyes
34:58
how they appreciate you, right? Just for listening.
35:02
You know what? I mean absolutely.
35:04
So it was nice to talk to that guy, you know?
35:08
Yeah, I. Have heard, I've heard great
35:11
things about that place, not only from from you being a
35:14
vendor there, but also, well, now Fort Elisa E Libre Greg,
35:20
yeah. Greg.
35:20
Was there, Greg was. There.
35:23
Greg's another great guy, by the way.
35:24
Oh, I love Greg. He'll be on actually in May.
35:27
I already. I already booked him.
35:29
Greg's got grey cigars and unfortunately he went through
35:33
some bullshit with Arturo Fuentes.
35:35
You know. You know, I don't understand
35:38
where fuerte, which means strength in Spanish.
35:42
Yes, I know. Yes, I know what you're saying.
35:45
And Fuente, which means fountain in in, in Spanish.
35:48
I don't know how those two are so close to each other, right?
35:52
You know, And it's, it's kind of sad to me.
35:55
It's petty, petty BS and kind of childish that a big multi
36:01
corporation would do that to a small guy.
36:03
You know, yeah, I mean. So let's let's talk about your
36:08
cigars. So what?
36:10
What made you get into the cigar world?
36:15
What made you start smoking cigars?
36:17
What made you start producing your own cigars?
36:20
What made you want to put out your own label?
36:23
What? Well, I grew up.
36:25
I grew up in a cigar family in Cuba.
36:27
You know, my grandfather, we grew tobacco.
36:30
He sold tobacco. He made cigars.
36:34
He sold them in his little bodegas all around the country.
36:38
And you know, it was part of my DNA, sadly, when I first arrived
36:47
in the United States, you know, immigrant butt naked, what do
36:50
you do? You work hard, right?
36:52
Right. You work hard.
36:53
And I did, you know, I was a young guy.
36:57
Every shitty job you could think of, I did.
37:01
From washing dishes to the fields to all that.
37:03
All that crap, right? But you don't have the money to
37:08
initiate a cigar business. Cigars are expensive.
37:12
It's not. It's not as easy as people
37:14
think. And so I joined the army, man,
37:17
and I did 22 years in the army and then I left the army.
37:22
I still have two kids in college, and then I went to work
37:28
for Dodi, did the special agent stuff, doing counterterrorism
37:32
and all kinds of crazy stuff. And then I retired from that.
37:37
And and right after I retired, I went to work as a security
37:41
consultant in Nicaragua for this Japanese company.
37:44
That's. Cool, that's that's awesome.
37:46
So there there is a riots in Nicaragua in 2018.
37:49
I don't know if you guys were, yes.
37:51
Yes, I did hear some stuff about that.
37:54
So my one of my old commanders calls me.
37:56
He goes, hey, what are you doing?
37:56
I go, nothing. I'm sitting here smoking a cigar
37:59
and bringing some coffee. He goes, I need you in
38:01
Nicaragua. Tomorrow I go, What's going on?
38:04
He goes, turn on the news. I said, OK, who are who are we
38:09
working for? So there's this big Canadian
38:12
company called Garter World, the biggest security company in the
38:16
world, and they have a subdivision.
38:18
At the time it was called Neon Associates, which is now Crisis
38:22
24. And they called me and said,
38:26
hey, you're going to work with Joe.
38:28
And I said, yeah, I said let's negotiate the contract while I'm
38:32
flying down there, right? So we don't waste time.
38:34
And so we got into into country, we set up at the
38:38
Intercontinental Hotel and we started scoping the area doing
38:41
assessment and you know this was going to take maybe a week or
38:46
two and it ended up being three years.
38:52
Yes. So throughout that time, I'm
38:54
negotiating my salary in the first couple weeks and my salary
38:58
was $828.00 a day, which is why you see the 828 on the cigar,
39:03
right? Wow.
39:05
OK, that's where that comes from.
39:07
I I didn't know that. OK, that's pretty cool.
39:09
That's pretty cool. So after being there a year and
39:14
I've saved up all this money, you know, one night I'm, I'm
39:19
sitting with one of my buds from 7th group there that's with me,
39:22
Dave Rapaye. And I go, Dave, it's time for us
39:26
to do what we always wanted to do.
39:28
And he goes, oh man, that's just more work and stuff.
39:31
I said I'm going to do it. I'm going to ask the Lee
39:33
tomorrow and I'm going to go look for for a good cigar maker.
39:37
Man, I knocked on every door. And that's the Lee.
39:40
All those guys wanted to do is rip you off, you know, 50,000
39:46
cigars, 100,000, you know? And I've heard that's because
39:51
when we go there, we're we're the outsiders, so that's where
39:53
they try to make their money. I don't know.
39:55
But you know, it's just a way for them to make money.
39:57
So, you know, time goes by and you know, I I run across Papito
40:05
Gomez, who makes my cigars. And Papito is Papito is a hidden
40:11
treasure in the cigar industry. He doesn't get a lot of
40:14
latitudes. He doesn't get a lot of.
40:18
Recognition. Because he's just that silent
40:21
guy, right? He just grinds and grinds and
40:24
grinds. And he was a guy who came from
40:27
Cuba, failed in Nicaragua, had to go to Ecuador, failed in
40:32
Ecuador, came back to Nicaragua. And one day this guy from Canada
40:38
knocks on his door and says, can you make me 500 cigars?
40:40
And he goes, absolutely. And he did.
40:44
And then can you make me 1000? And he did.
40:46
And then can you make me 5000, Well, that's the Havana Castle
40:53
brand in Canada, one of the largest boutique brands in
40:56
Canada. Havana Castle, yes.
40:58
Excellent cigars. So Papito makes, you know,
41:05
30-40. Fifty thousand cigars for these
41:07
guys a month, you know, because they have 26, they have 26
41:11
stores all over Canada. And I'm talking to Papito and I
41:15
said, listen man, you know, we both, we both our families know
41:21
each other from I need your help, I need, I need to work
41:24
with some blends and I need to start with 10,000 cigars.
41:28
Can you help me? He goes, yeah, let's sit down
41:31
and talk. So we did and it took us a good
41:36
18 months to perfect the blends. And then we came out with the
41:42
828 Clotto, which is an Ambano Rosado.
41:46
We came out with the 8 to 8 O scooter and then with the the
41:52
silverback came on later on. Because I'm, I'm sitting there
41:56
one night and I go, you know, I love San Andreas and I don't
41:58
have a San Andreas cigar, but it's the it's the most expensive
42:02
cigar, right? So I said, you know, I want to
42:08
make this simple. Let's just, let's just try a San
42:11
Andreas wrapper on one of these two blends and see which one
42:14
comes up best, right. And at first I didn't like it.
42:18
So we tweaked that a little bit and we came out with the limited
42:21
edition Silverback, which is a great seller.
42:26
And and I said let's come, let's since it's a limited edition,
42:30
let me only make 500 bucks. And that's what we came out
42:34
with. And so I'm making this cigars,
42:38
you know, not thinking too far ahead because I wrote this out
42:43
in a plan, right. You know, phase one, phase two,
42:46
phase three. And then phase two was let me go
42:49
find a distributor or find a cigar company that wants to join
42:55
up. And I found this scar company
42:58
used to be called Terrazona Cigars and team up team up with
43:03
him. It was the biggest mistake I
43:06
ever made, you know, because it all started great. 2019, we're
43:11
at the PCA. We introduced the blends, people
43:15
loved them. We made a lot of money that day
43:18
that week with orders. And then things were going good,
43:24
man. You know, we started to move
43:26
cigars and yeah, first year was 30,000 cigars that we sold, you
43:33
know, so that wasn't better, you know.
43:36
Second year we went a little higher then I get, I came down
43:39
with cancer, got sick and my partner went rogue on me.
43:43
He broke the company, you know what I mean?
43:46
So when I recover from cancer, I I basically open up my own
43:52
operation. I'm doing all the decision
43:54
making. I'm doing all the the work and
43:58
this is Casa Caravallo today. So I'm building.
44:01
I'm kind of like Greg, you know, He's building something from the
44:04
ground up, you know, and slowly, methodically and trying to give
44:13
the consumer an excellent product that's not too expensive
44:19
without all the hype and the bullshit that you see in the
44:21
cigar industry. You know, all I can tell you is
44:26
the people who smoke my cigars, which I'm looking at them right
44:29
now, They love my cigars. I I was just getting I'm just
44:33
getting ready to say I've smoked the Claro and the Oscuro and and
44:36
I'm sure by far those are you guys got to.
44:39
Get your hands on the Apache. It is unbelievable.
44:44
So that's another story there. The the Apache.
44:46
That's another story. So let me ask you this question.
44:49
Well, it's not really a question.
44:52
So like you said, it took you 18 months to perfect the, the, the
44:57
blends, see a lot of people that you know, we're coming out with
45:00
our own stuff and they're like, oh, you guys been in the works
45:03
for like 2-3 years. I'm like, bro, it doesn't take
45:06
an listen. I'm not going to buy somebody
45:08
else's cigars and put my labels on it.
45:10
And you know as well as we do, you know, you have to find the
45:13
right maker and manufacturer. For the cigar itself, right.
45:16
So people are saying that, oh, you guys are are not coming out.
45:20
And I keep telling them, listen, you have to taste them.
45:24
You have to find the right blend.
45:26
You know, it's not, it's not my blend.
45:29
Listen, what I'm doing is I'm doing it for the consumers.
45:32
And remember, it's got a age. And then in that meantime, while
45:36
it's aging in your taste testing, you have to have all
45:38
your licenses in order to be able to do it.
45:41
Yeah. I mean, that's a whole part of
45:42
the process. You know, and in New York, we've
45:45
already tried applying for that license and we're still waiting.
45:48
Yeah, unfortunately. Unfortunately.
45:52
You know, this is the thing about America.
45:54
You know, we have 50 different countries inside 1 United
45:57
States, you know what I mean? And we have 15 different ways of
46:01
doing things. And unfortunately, New York is
46:03
not cigar friendly, right? No, they're not.
46:06
They tax the hell out of you guys.
46:07
Every 5% sales tax. You know, it's hard for a small
46:10
business up there. That cigar.
46:13
Let me put it to you this way. My lounge in Florida, OK, it's
46:19
no different than a nice lounge in New York.
46:22
We have it a lot easier than the guys in New York because the
46:26
guys in New York every month, the number one thing they have
46:28
to think about is, did I make enough money to pay my taxes and
46:32
still make some money to pay the rent?
46:34
Now let's talk about your cigar lounge in Florida.
46:38
Tell us where it is and how you how you started that lounge.
46:43
So, so you know, when I was with Terrazona, that kind of broke
46:48
me, you know, So I'm, I'm sitting there with one of my
46:53
friends, Ben Rosario, who's the manager of my lounge, and we're
46:56
talking. I said, you know, you know way
46:58
to make some money is to instead of just me pushing Casa Carl,
47:03
Ohio, because that takes a lot of work to get on the road, just
47:08
as, you know, just you're on the road, you're sending samples.
47:13
People try the samples, They like him and then they they
47:17
don't want to buy them and they give you excuses that I don't
47:20
have space in my. Oh, absolutely.
47:22
I used to get that excuse all the time.
47:24
And then you walk in the human door and I go, man, your human
47:26
door is empty. What the hell is wrong with you?
47:27
Right. But that's irrelevant.
47:30
If they don't have the money and they don't want to buy it, they
47:33
just don't buy it, right. Regardless if they like their
47:36
cigars or not, you know, so, so it's there's a lot of no's, a
47:41
lot of no, no, no, no. You just got to keep trying,
47:44
right. And so, so Ben was working at
47:51
this cigar lounge and I said, you know, man, we ought to buy
47:54
that lounge from person who owns it.
47:58
And I don't know that's a good, yeah, that's a great idea.
48:03
And then we make money from there and we could fund other
48:06
things, right. And so we did an inventory of
48:11
what was in that lounge and we made an offer and it wasn't too
48:15
much. It was less than $200,000, by
48:18
the way. That's that's great.
48:20
And if for any lounge, no matter where it is, that's a steal.
48:24
So this this lounge in particular opened during COVID
48:28
and they didn't go broke, they sold everything they had.
48:32
Wow. And they built a clientele
48:34
that's consistent and loyal, right.
48:38
It's in Davie, FL on 5679 S University Drive.
48:45
Nice little small place about 1100 square feet.
48:48
And and we have a a loyal, loyal clientele, most retired first
48:56
responders, military and then a lot of rich guys who retire
49:00
there who used to own, they were orange growers, right.
49:04
They had a lot of land and stuff.
49:06
So. So we're we're in the right spot
49:08
and we have like four or five lounges around us but they can't
49:14
touch us. They don't have what we have
49:16
inside our human door. So.
49:19
So to to go back a little bit, we make the offer, we take over
49:23
and the first thing we do is, you know, I drop a project plan
49:26
to renovate the place, right, and basically give it a
49:29
facelift. So we threw all the old
49:32
furniture out, put new furniture, we put new facing on
49:36
the walls, repainted the place, added a couple extraction
49:39
systems, redid the humidor and then redid the mini bar that we
49:45
have. We can't sell liquor, but we
49:48
could sell wine and beer, right? OK, so it's it's a it's a BYOB
49:53
if you want. No, you can't.
49:55
You can't bring your own in Florida, but.
49:58
OK. But in Florida, they allow you
50:00
to sell one vodka that's made by the state and then that's the
50:05
only drink you're allowed to sell.
50:07
That's liquor, right? We have that there.
50:11
But we renovated the place and then we we brought in, we took
50:14
out a lot of old stuff that was there for a lot of legacy stuff,
50:20
the big brands that were there that just sit there and don't
50:23
sell right. Which I was just going to say,
50:26
if we're Austin cigar people, we kind of know what sits on the
50:29
shelf even even as even not even you as an owner, You as a a just
50:35
a consumer in your own right. We we all know what kind of sits
50:38
there. Yeah.
50:39
So, So there's a lot of legacy brands when they come in, you
50:42
got to buy the entire line, you spend $20,000 and only two of
50:46
those people ourselves, the rest of the system. 100% they do.
50:49
Yeah. So we went to some of these
50:52
legacy brands and said we don't want your stuff anymore.
50:54
We just want two of these boxes but more of them because that's
50:59
what sells. Oh you.
51:00
We can't do that. You know it's an honor to have
51:03
our our brand in your. I said no.
51:06
The honor is the honor is that you have me as a customer.
51:10
Let's I'm just going. To say the other thing too is
51:12
even even for me, you know, not even owning a lounge.
51:16
But like, I would do the same thing.
51:17
If there's two things that sell, I'm not going to buy the entire
51:21
line. I'm going to buy those two
51:23
sides, those two cigars. Now, if you have four different
51:26
sizes of those cigars, I'm going to buy those sizes because those
51:30
two cigars sell. But that's that's how they make
51:33
their money so. So we we tweaked the humidor and
51:35
we brought in like initially we bought in 10 different boutique
51:41
brands. OK.
51:43
Our clientele never had boutique cigars before, so they were
51:46
going like, what the hell is this guys, what are you doing?
51:49
You know. You start smoking.
51:51
Yeah, we say, hey, we're going to change your palate here.
51:54
We're going to, we're going to cure, how are you medor to fit
52:00
your taste and your demands. But we're going to make you
52:02
taste, we're going to make you try new things that you haven't
52:06
tried before. And they were very open to it,
52:09
you know, which surprised us, right?
52:11
I was just going to say that's a big, that's a big shock because
52:14
I went to, I've went to places and handed out like a AB, AM, F
52:18
or certain. Other, you know, boutique brands
52:20
and people like, Oh no, I don't want to try that.
52:22
I'm like and I do like you do. Just do me a favor, give it a
52:26
try. If you don't like it, that's
52:28
fine, but just try it. So Gee, do you have a question
52:33
for Mr., Mario? Hey, listen, I first, first of
52:39
all, Mario, listen, you know I love your brother and I I love
52:43
their smokes. They're absolutely fantastic and
52:48
you're doing a fantastic job. I was just talking to somebody
52:51
the other day and I said that when Mario talks, you listen and
52:55
that's what I do. That's what I do when listen.
52:58
I could get I get captivated just by the way you you present
53:03
everything. You have just an incredible
53:06
wealth of knowledge. And I truly love just sitting
53:09
back and listening to you talk because people learn so much
53:12
more when they listen than when they talk.
53:15
So brother, I I don't think, I can't think of a question that I
53:19
already haven't asked you. So you know, don't take this,
53:25
don't take this any other way than me just being a fan and
53:28
sitting back and listening to you just just, you know, do your
53:33
thing. I love it.
53:34
I absolutely love it. I got you brother.
53:36
Thank you so much also. You know, where can we get your
53:41
cigars? Because we have somebody A.
53:43
Buddy of Mine. He wants to try a cigar.
53:45
Where can we get them at? So, so you you could call the
53:48
lounge at in Davie, FL and say hey I want the Casa Caravalla or
53:53
whatever and they'll work with you to ship it for you.
53:57
You could DM me, you could DM me and then I'll work out how to
54:03
get them to you. You could go on my website and
54:08
any of the stores that are on the website should still be
54:11
carrying them, right? Norfolk, Norfolk cigars, No
54:16
Sofolk cigars, definitely got them.
54:18
Leo Mill Lounge here in Woodbridge, VA has them also, so
54:25
they're they're all there for for you guys to go out and and
54:28
try to find them. Cigar Basement has them.
54:31
So there's a lot of cigar loungers that carry them, you
54:34
know, but let me get back to what I was saying.
54:36
So. So the first thing I let them
54:37
try was my cigars. I didn't sell it to them.
54:41
I just gave it. I said here, you bought that.
54:43
Try this, you know, and as a matter of fact, the first one we
54:47
gave them was the plotto, you know, So if you like a
54:52
Connecticut, you're going to like this.
54:53
You know what I mean? If you like Arbano, you're going
54:56
to like this, you know, if you like, you know.
55:00
So. So this cigar here, if you like.
55:06
An IP Carrillo cigar right here. OK, my Oscudo tastes like a a
55:15
dared off midnight, You know what I mean?
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So I try. I try to imitate my cigars.
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Kind of like what other people smoke.
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So they have a relationship with that smoke, right?
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And every experience is different.
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You know what I mean? And and the guys loved it and by
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that time we brought in other brands and then man these guys
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were so loyal to us. They buy one of their legacy
55:43
cigars and pick up a a stick that that's a boutique and they
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started doing that supporting us, you know and we were like OK
55:52
this this is working. And then we started having
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cutting lights like last night we had Iluccione there, you
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know. So what we did last night is
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unfortunately we have we have a customer who doing a motorcycle
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run for kids toys and stuff like that.
56:11
And he got hit by a by a car and went in a hospital and you know
56:16
her medical bills are crazy, right?
56:18
I just spent $36,000 on medical bills two months ago because I
56:23
had I had a infection in my chest.
56:27
It wasn't COVID. It was my membranes, right.
56:31
Something I ate or somewhere. I walked in and I took that.
56:35
Well, they thought it was a heart attack.
56:37
It wasn't a heart attack. But they, they run you through
56:39
all the procedures, right? That CT scan, that when I got
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the bill, I'm going, thank God I have insurance, right?
56:47
Yeah. There's a lot of Americans
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don't. Yeah.
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Thank God I got insurance too, which is sad.
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So, OK, this is going to cost me about $5000.
56:57
OK. You know, thank God, but this
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poor guy, you know, So what we did last night is we did a
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fundraiser for him, right, with the ilusione brand that came in.
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We raffle all kinds of boxes of cigars.
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So. But instead of selling them to
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the to the public at retail, we went wholesale, right?
57:22
So instead of buying one, you could buy 2, right?
57:24
Right. You know, and we raised all
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kinds of money for him. People love the cutting light.
57:33
Prior to that we had GTO there for a cutting light.
57:36
We had Caballero cigars in therefore cutting light.
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We had Karen Berger in December, you know, and we're going to
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continue to do that because that was never done before at the
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lounge, right. So we're constantly exposing our
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clients to new things. I mean as a as a consumer
57:59
myself, I love the the cutting light aspects even if it's you
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know, even if it's a legacy brand or a boutique brand, I
58:06
love the the cutting light aspects because you get to sit
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down with some of these brand owners.
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You know, like we went, we went to a a shop in Connecticut and I
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only went at that that day because Rick Rodriguez was up
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here from West Tampa and we went and you know my buddy had came
58:26
with us and he never had W Tampa before.
58:31
Yeah, so. So Ricky's, Ricky's one of these
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great guys. Oh, Ricky is a sweetheart.
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Who's been in the in the industry forever?
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He worked for a great company, he's smart and he finally made
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the decision to go out on his own.
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And he came out with W Dapa, which a great brand, great
58:48
cigars, you know, and that's a nice story, you know.
58:54
But he's got some good backing, you know what I mean?
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And he's going to be very successful, you know, And it's a
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great cigar. It's a great cigar and we wish
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him well. Mario, we're.
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Winding down for the last minute or so here.
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Mario, we want to thank you for coming on my brother.
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Don't go nowhere because I got some questions offline for you.
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But we and and we're definitely going to book you to come back
59:17
on. Absolutely.
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Come back on So this has been Turnbuckles and Stogies, Big
59:22
Dog, the Vanilla Gorilla, OG and our interview of the week, Mario
59:27
Carabello. So yo, have a good day.
59:31
Enjoy your weekend. Go Detroit and go Baltimore,
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baby. Have fun guys.
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That's the show for today everyone.
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