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- 0:01Speaker 1: You're listening to bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
- 0:04Speaker 1: six forty.
- 0:06Speaker 2: Bill Handle.
- 0:07Speaker 3: Here.
- 0:08Speaker 2: It is day Thursday morning, July thirtieth.
- 0:11Speaker 3: A quick reminder, and today is the last day, well
- 0:15Speaker 3: the last day that you can call in for the week.
- 0:17Speaker 3: And it's all about you helping us out with ask
- 0:20Speaker 3: handle anything that we do tomorrow morning at eight thirty.
- 0:24Speaker 3: And it's all about you asking me questions, and it's
- 0:27Speaker 3: to embarrass me personal questions. And actually I think it
- 0:30Speaker 3: was Neil's idea because he lives for embarrassing me. And
- 0:34Speaker 3: here's how it works. You go to the iHeartRadio app
- 0:38Speaker 3: during the show and then you click onto KFI and
- 0:43Speaker 3: this show is streaming, and then you go to the
- 0:45Speaker 3: upper right hand corner of microphone. You'll have ten to
- 0:47Speaker 3: fifteen seconds to ask a questions recorded. Neil chooses the
- 0:51Speaker 3: most embarrassing ones and we play them tomorrow at day
- 0:54Speaker 3: thirty and I answer them and Neil usually succeeds in
- 0:58Speaker 3: embarrassing me, because that's what it's about. Okay, there is
- 1:04Speaker 3: a three year old viral thread that's making on Reddit
- 1:06Speaker 3: that's making the rounds again, and it has to do
- 1:10Speaker 3: with the millennial generation not feeling obligated to take care
- 1:15Speaker 3: of their elders, elders being members of the baby boom generation.
- 1:22Speaker 3: That's what they're talking about. And so the thread what
- 1:29Speaker 3: it basically positive is positives, posits that millennials entering in
- 1:36Speaker 3: the early stages of middle age are facing new financial
- 1:40Speaker 3: crisis in their lives, big ones, and included in that
- 1:44Speaker 3: is the cost of taking care of elderly parents or
- 1:46Speaker 3: family members. And they're saying no to that one. And
- 1:50Speaker 3: usually the threads make fun of baby boomers who are
- 1:54Speaker 3: acting obnoxious entitled online.
- 1:56Speaker 2: Yep, that's me.
- 1:58Speaker 3: And the fierce respect for millennials is the following, You
- 2:05Speaker 3: baby boomers have ruined it for us, which is basically
- 2:10Speaker 3: true because you bought your houses when houses were cheap
- 2:17Speaker 3: relative to income. Today we can't do that. It's impossible.
- 2:23Speaker 3: You were able to get jobs of plenty coming out
- 2:26Speaker 3: of college or even coming out of high school.
- 2:29Speaker 2: Not today.
- 2:31Speaker 3: Cost of living relative to your income far better, not anymore,
- 2:37Speaker 3: that's for sure. And I'm getting this constantly. Basically, you
- 2:44Speaker 3: did well, then you pulled up the ladder, so we
- 2:47Speaker 3: couldn't do as well. This is the first generation where
- 2:51Speaker 3: parents are doing better than kids, which has not happened before,
- 2:57Speaker 3: and so baby Boomers, well, let me give you a
- 3:00Speaker 3: personal story, and that is as you know, Lindsey is
- 3:07Speaker 3: a little bit younger than I am, not by much.
- 3:11Speaker 3: We had to wait until she graduated high school too well,
- 3:15Speaker 3: you know, because I didn't want to get arrested. So
- 3:19Speaker 3: right after her graduation, in her birthday, we had a
- 3:22Speaker 3: rip roaring good time. I'm very careful about the law,
- 3:26Speaker 3: you understand, because I'm a lawyer, and I'm very careful.
- 3:29Speaker 2: About the law.
- 3:31Speaker 3: So in any case, she says, on a regular basis,
- 3:35Speaker 3: I'm a boomer, and she says, you ruined it for us.
- 3:38Speaker 3: You ruined it for our generation. And that's not a
- 3:41Speaker 3: joke for her, she really means it. And that's the
- 3:46Speaker 3: case across the board. I mean, there's one and this
- 3:49Speaker 3: is typical. Hey Boomers, remember the social safety net you
- 3:53Speaker 3: dismantled and those homes and cars you got before you
- 3:57Speaker 3: pulled up the ladder behind you. Yeah, you need to
- 4:00Speaker 3: sell that stuff to take care of yourself, because well,
- 4:03Speaker 3: f you, that's why. And that is typical about what's
- 4:08Speaker 3: going on. Another user replied again, this was not the atypical.
- 4:13Speaker 3: Most didn't help their kids. Why would their kids help them.
- 4:18Speaker 3: There was a Yahoo Financial article published yesterday and it
- 4:22Speaker 3: delve deeper into this conversation, explaining that the US is
- 4:27Speaker 3: facing shortage of three hundred and fifty five caregivers by
- 4:31Speaker 3: twenty forty, meaning that elderly Americans boomers who are getting
- 4:37Speaker 3: older are increasingly depending on family to take care of them.
- 4:41Speaker 3: And family does not appreciate it. Why because caregivers, First
- 4:47Speaker 3: of all, they don't well. First of all, they don't
- 4:49Speaker 3: have her money, especially if it's family. Second of all,
- 4:52Speaker 3: they have to care for their parents, because to take
- 4:56Speaker 3: care of parents is typically one hundred dollars a year
- 5:01Speaker 3: as not unusual. If you need a caregiver at home
- 5:04Speaker 3: to take parents parents or put them in some kind
- 5:06Speaker 3: of facility, it is crazy expensive. So they're sort of
- 5:09Speaker 3: stuck paying for their kids or their elderly people, their parents,
- 5:15Speaker 3: their grandparents, and it's just and they get depressed. I mean,
- 5:19Speaker 3: these are studies that we're done right now. This is
- 5:22Speaker 3: a University of Pennsylvania. This research came out in May.
- 5:26Speaker 3: Unpaid caregivers face advancement loss, job advancement loss, depressed isolation,
- 5:33Speaker 3: overall decline in life quality as they're caring for the elderly,
- 5:40Speaker 3: and it's one of those things. So what ends up
- 5:43Speaker 3: happening is a lot of boomers bought elder care insurance,
- 5:50Speaker 3: but we're talking three percent, I mean almost nobody, And
- 5:54Speaker 3: so there are people who did not save up for retirement.
- 5:57Speaker 3: And even if you did save up for retirement, you
- 6:00Speaker 3: know how quickly it goes when you have a caregiver
- 6:03Speaker 3: at home. I mean it flies. And unfortunately, in terms
- 6:08Speaker 3: of money, we're living way too long, and that means
- 6:14Speaker 3: that doesn't mean that we can work way long as
- 6:18Speaker 3: relative to our age.
- 6:20Speaker 2: It is a mess.
- 6:22Speaker 1: Are my kids most of these kids are white kids.
- 6:25Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so, and they're yeah, you're right.
- 6:27Speaker 1: Nodding too, because that is here's the deal. I can't
- 6:33Speaker 1: take care of my mom at her place, but she
- 6:36Speaker 1: could come live with us in a heartbeat. I wouldn't
- 6:39Speaker 1: think twice about her coming to live with us. And
- 6:41Speaker 1: I think most black Hispanic families, Asian families have no
- 6:47Speaker 1: problem doing that.
- 6:47Speaker 2: These That's correct, because that's culture.
- 6:49Speaker 1: These little brats, Yeah, and they're going to be pissed
- 6:53Speaker 1: off their parents don't leave them. That's cultural because they're
- 6:56Speaker 1: spending it on their own health.
- 6:57Speaker 3: There there is that is a cultural issue where you
- 7:01Speaker 3: different cultures, you automatically live at home, where there are three,
- 7:06Speaker 3: sometimes four generations at home. We're talking about Asian cultures,
- 7:09Speaker 3: the Chinese, Japanese.
- 7:11Speaker 1: This is a blame culture that wants to blame their
- 7:13Speaker 1: parents and everybody else.
- 7:14Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you this. Let me give you
- 7:17Speaker 2: a statement.
- 7:19Speaker 3: If I didn't plan for my retirement and I needed care,
- 7:25Speaker 3: and what are my chances of living at home with
- 7:28Speaker 3: my kids about as much as me becoming Rex the
- 7:31Speaker 3: Wonder Horse in the next fifteen minutes.
- 7:34Speaker 1: It is not for your kids.
- 7:37Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.
- 7:38Speaker 1: They don't have money. They don't have money.
- 7:40Speaker 3: Well, it's a different story because, yeah, my kids are
- 7:42Speaker 3: entitled completely. I've spoiled them ridiculously and I have no
- 7:46Speaker 3: concept of how to parent kids.
- 7:48Speaker 2: I get that.
- 7:49Speaker 3: And on top of that, I envision that when I
- 7:53Speaker 3: am dying and my kids surround me. You know how
- 7:56Speaker 3: they say family and friends he died or she died
- 7:59Speaker 3: with family and friends there and died peacefully. I'm going
- 8:04Speaker 3: to have family there. My kids will be around me
- 8:07Speaker 3: on my deathbed and they will be tapping their watches
- 8:11Speaker 3: and going come on with Yeah, we've got things to do.
- 8:15Speaker 3: I mean, you know, let's wrap this puppy up, okay question.
- 8:21Speaker 3: When you have an issue of a medical issue where
- 8:24Speaker 3: you're wondering, what's wrong with me, I have some symptoms. Well,
- 8:28Speaker 3: it used to be people would go on web Md,
- 8:31Speaker 3: which is something that I strongly and a doctor's Jim
- 8:35Speaker 3: Keeney strongly recommend don't because you're going to give WebMD
- 8:40Speaker 3: your symptoms and then web Md is going to tell
- 8:44Speaker 3: you everything is wrong with you or could be wrong
- 8:47Speaker 3: with you, and that you're going to die next week.
- 8:49Speaker 3: I happen to like it a lot, but that's me. Okay,
- 8:53Speaker 3: But that is not that's not particularly interactive. It doesn't
- 8:56Speaker 3: specifically look at you. It looks at a general It's
- 9:01Speaker 3: basically a general look at symptoms and then goes into
- 9:05Speaker 3: its database. Now AI is very different. AI can do
- 9:12Speaker 3: some extraordinary things. So let me spend a moment about
- 9:17Speaker 3: you uploading your medical data to an AI program. A
- 9:22Speaker 3: lot of Americans are choosing AI to address their health concerns.
- 9:26Speaker 3: There was a March poll from KFF Kaiser Foundation, and
- 9:32Speaker 3: it found that one in three American adults said they
- 9:34Speaker 3: have consulted AI about their health, and the most widely
- 9:38Speaker 3: used AI program in the US Chat GPT used by
- 9:42Speaker 3: forty four percent of US adults. Open AI, company that
- 9:47Speaker 3: owns it, says that more than three hundred million people
- 9:51Speaker 3: around the world tune in each week turn to it
- 9:53Speaker 3: each week to answer health questions. Now AI program, as
- 9:58Speaker 3: you know, provides general information on virtually any topic. Several
- 10:03Speaker 3: companies have made it easier for Americans to upload medical
- 10:07Speaker 3: records where wearable device data so that the program can
- 10:13Speaker 3: offer you health information. Now not just symptoms, but health
- 10:19Speaker 3: information based on things like doctors notes, lab results. Those
- 10:24Speaker 3: are medical records that you can pull because they're yours,
- 10:27Speaker 3: and then add things like the number of steps you take,
- 10:30Speaker 3: the food you eat, the amount of sleep you get.
- 10:34Speaker 3: Compiling all of that information then gives you a diagnosis.
- 10:41Speaker 3: And most people, or a lot of people think that
- 10:44Speaker 3: uploading that information to AI, boy, there is a risk,
- 10:49Speaker 3: a privacy risk, and there basically is. I mean, hackers
- 10:52Speaker 3: can get in there and figure out how healthy you
- 10:55Speaker 3: are or aren't, or insurance companies could theoretically get in there.
- 10:58Speaker 3: Some safeguards, but there's some real worry about that. Now
- 11:04Speaker 3: I have access to my medical file as all of
- 11:08Speaker 3: you do for me, I'm a member of Kaiser, and
- 11:13Speaker 3: I go into I can go into my records at
- 11:16Speaker 3: Kaiser and pull all my data literally, and I've been
- 11:19Speaker 3: a member since I've been five years old. And when
- 11:23Speaker 3: I was a kid, I would I broke bones eleven
- 11:26Speaker 3: times when I was a kid before the age of twelve,
- 11:29Speaker 3: eleven fractures. I mean, I would jump off jungle gyms,
- 11:33Speaker 3: that I would fall off bicycles. I mean I was
- 11:36Speaker 3: out of my mind, and so starting then all through
- 11:41Speaker 3: my teenage adult years, even to the point where, what
- 11:45Speaker 3: five years ago, I had open heart surgery, I had
- 11:47Speaker 3: back surgery. I mean, I've had a bunch of surgeries
- 11:50Speaker 3: and the data is all there. And the if I
- 11:53Speaker 3: pull that data and put it into one of these
- 11:57Speaker 3: major AI programs and then ask what is going on,
- 12:02Speaker 3: I will get some pretty specific diagnosis if I also
- 12:06Speaker 3: have some symptoms. Jim Keeney likes AI, but when a
- 12:13Speaker 3: doctor gets that information and oversees what AI says, because
- 12:17Speaker 3: there's some problems with AI, and that is it's way
- 12:20Speaker 3: too friendly. It wants to make you feel better. It's
- 12:24Speaker 3: not going to say, hey, you are going to crash,
- 12:27Speaker 3: You're going to have a heart attack, like Jim does
- 12:30Speaker 3: on a regular basis, and he does it with a smile.
- 12:34Speaker 3: Jim revels in telling people they're not going to live
- 12:37Speaker 3: very much longer. But then that's Jim. That's why I
- 12:39Speaker 3: like him so much, That's why we're such great friends.
- 12:42Speaker 3: And so there's really fear. The AI programs want you
- 12:46Speaker 3: to feel better, and sometimes they're just dead wrong. However,
- 12:53Speaker 3: Doctor seemed to be dead wrong more often than the
- 12:57Speaker 3: AI programs. You know that last year one of the
- 13:01Speaker 3: AI programs past the medical licensing exam on its own.
- 13:08Speaker 3: It has passed the bar exam, and when it gets
- 13:12Speaker 3: to specifics, it's going to be around well, it's going
- 13:17Speaker 3: to be a lot more effective and it's going to
- 13:19Speaker 3: be a lot smarter.
- 13:22Speaker 2: Let me give you an example.
- 13:24Speaker 3: When you talk about technology, every pilot in the world
- 13:27Speaker 3: will tell you that if you are flying and you
- 13:30Speaker 3: cannot see what's going on in your instrument, rated look
- 13:33Speaker 3: at the instruments. Do not look out the window. Trust
- 13:37Speaker 3: your instruments. They are far more efficient and they are
- 13:43Speaker 3: far more correct than anything you can see. That's technology.
- 13:48Speaker 3: You take Waimo and oh you hear about Weimo. They
- 13:51Speaker 3: get an accidents and people may be hurt. Compare that
- 13:54Speaker 3: with the number of people who are hurt and get
- 13:57Speaker 3: an accidents on the road.
- 13:59Speaker 2: In terms of percentages.
- 14:02Speaker 3: Self driving cars are infinitely safer than you picking up
- 14:08Speaker 3: your car. They don't get drunk. They of for example,
- 14:11Speaker 3: AI doesn't miss diagnosis. They'll give you a diagnosis. It
- 14:14Speaker 3: may be wrong, but according to Jim, it is wrong
- 14:19Speaker 3: fewer times than doctors. Doctors get tired, Doctors miss reading
- 14:26Speaker 3: medical journals where they're new procedures and new discoveries. Jim,
- 14:31Speaker 3: for example, I keep on talking about Jim because of
- 14:33Speaker 3: course that's the default whenever I have a medical question.
- 14:36Speaker 3: And he reads more articles than anybody I know. He
- 14:39Speaker 3: is fanatic about keeping up with medicine. He can't read
- 14:42Speaker 3: two thousand articles a week. AI does. It takes all
- 14:48Speaker 3: that information and it creates a pretty serious diagnosis, a
- 14:53Speaker 3: good diagnosis. The problem is privacy and how wrong or
- 14:58Speaker 3: right it is, and it does hallucinate. Okay, okay, A
- 15:04Speaker 3: quick question to ask you, and that is what movies
- 15:09Speaker 3: completely turn around entire industries. Well, we go back to
- 15:14Speaker 3: nineteen thirty four. There's a lib bit of history. There
- 15:16Speaker 3: was a film with Clark Gable. It happened one night
- 15:20Speaker 3: where in the movie Clark Gable took off his shirt
- 15:24Speaker 3: and there was no undershirt. And prior to that, every
- 15:29Speaker 3: man in America wore an undershirt, you know, the sleeveless
- 15:32Speaker 3: undershirts that they call the wife beaters. I've never is that,
- 15:36Speaker 3: by the way, sexist to call that the wife beaters,
- 15:39Speaker 3: because that's what they were called. Those T shirts still
- 15:42Speaker 3: are anyway a cut Okay, anyway, the entire undershirt business
- 15:48Speaker 3: completely collapsed, or so it is reported. Well, the same
- 15:53Speaker 3: thing happened with a movie called Sideways in two thousand
- 15:57Speaker 3: and four, if you remember that, and it was a
- 16:01Speaker 3: terrific film. It starred Paul Giamani and he is a
- 16:05Speaker 3: wine snob in the movie, and he extolled one particular
- 16:10Speaker 3: wine peanot no ear right, Neil, you're shaking your head.
- 16:18Speaker 3: You're the foodie here.
- 16:19Speaker 1: Sounds wrong?
- 16:20Speaker 3: It does sound wrong, okay, Pino noir. And he described
- 16:26Speaker 3: it as thrilling and subtle. And as a result of
- 16:30Speaker 3: a film, it set off pino noir boom in California.
- 16:34Speaker 3: Tasting rooms all over California or central California where the
- 16:38Speaker 3: movie took place filled with customers pinois. The areas producing
- 16:44Speaker 3: the grape sold out their inventory's record time. Across the state.
- 16:48Speaker 3: Growers were planning it everywhere. One grower said, you could
- 16:51Speaker 3: almost feel it. He recently closed his winery in Sonoma,
- 16:58Speaker 3: and a few years ago, right after the movie came out,
- 17:01Speaker 3: his winery had the highest profits in years, but demand
- 17:07Speaker 3: for these grapes Pinoat grapes began to dry up. A
- 17:10Speaker 3: few years ago, wine sales plummeted, and he tried to
- 17:14Speaker 3: give discounts to other vittnors on grapes that he had,
- 17:18Speaker 3: and he couldn't sell them.
- 17:20Speaker 2: No one wanted them.
- 17:22Speaker 3: And that just is an introduction to the story, because
- 17:25Speaker 3: that's part and parcel of it. Winemakers in California produced
- 17:29Speaker 3: less wine last year than at any point in the
- 17:32Speaker 3: last quarter century. And what they're doing, and it's often
- 17:36Speaker 3: cheaper to let grapes rot on the vine than it
- 17:40Speaker 3: even cost to harvest them. Because so many unsold bottles
- 17:45Speaker 3: clogged so many shelves of so many store rooms and
- 17:48Speaker 3: wine shops. Nationwide, wine sales are at their lowest level
- 17:53Speaker 3: in more than two decades. Nationwide wine sales are at
- 17:59Speaker 3: the lowest level more in two decades. People are simply
- 18:02Speaker 3: drinking a lot less the public health warnings alcohol is unhealthy.
- 18:08Speaker 3: Younger drinkers have found traditional wines kind of stodgy and
- 18:11Speaker 3: difficult to understand, and the preference of canned cocktail selters,
- 18:17Speaker 3: non alcoholic beers and spirits. So I turned to our
- 18:22Speaker 3: wine expert, Neil, who drinks wine. Actually way too much
- 18:27Speaker 3: of it, I might add, and a consumer of alcohol,
- 18:31Speaker 3: way too much of that. Neil, you look at this
- 18:35Speaker 3: and study it, are you?
- 18:37Speaker 2: Number one?
- 18:37Speaker 3: Are you at all surprised? And why do you think
- 18:40Speaker 3: people are simply drinking less wine?
- 18:42Speaker 1: First, I am not a wine expert by any stretch
- 18:44Speaker 1: of the imagination. I do like wine. I don't drink
- 18:48Speaker 1: nearly as much as you would like me too. I
- 18:50Speaker 1: probably haven't had a drink in four months, to be
- 18:52Speaker 1: honest with you.
- 18:53Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's because of the bariatric stuff.
- 18:56Speaker 1: That's two months.
- 18:58Speaker 2: Well, okay.
- 19:01Speaker 1: I do like a good drink, and I do like
- 19:03Speaker 1: some wines, although I'm kind of into bourbons and whiskeys
- 19:07Speaker 1: and the like. There's a couple of things going on,
- 19:10Speaker 1: and one that, although it's mentioned in this story, is
- 19:13Speaker 1: not talked about enough. They keep looking at the rise
- 19:17Speaker 1: of low ABV or zero ABV alcohol by volume of drinks.
- 19:22Speaker 1: But what they're not saying is that a lot of
- 19:24Speaker 1: places like California, Colorado and the like, it's legal to
- 19:29Speaker 1: smoke pot, so you don't get a hangover with pot.
- 19:34Speaker 1: You don't have you know, a lot of people drive
- 19:37Speaker 1: smoking pot because they still are having issues trying to
- 19:40Speaker 1: figure out ways to you know, they don't have a
- 19:44Speaker 1: sobriety test in the same way, in the same sense.
- 19:47Speaker 1: So I think that there's a lot of people that
- 19:49Speaker 1: have turned to marijuana to get there high and not alcohol,
- 19:55Speaker 1: which has calories, which has other things to go with it.
- 20:01Speaker 1: But there's also been a massive change in the tastes.
- 20:06Speaker 1: Wine needs to be something slightly of sophistication, something you
- 20:10Speaker 1: had to learn about and enjoy deeper, and the reds
- 20:14Speaker 1: are what seems to be dying as other younger folks
- 20:19Speaker 1: are preferring things like fiano or white wines that are
- 20:24Speaker 1: now within the last year becoming incredibly popular. They are
- 20:30Speaker 1: drinking out of mugs, not wineglasses. They're experiencing it completely different.
- 20:37Speaker 1: They don't want to know about it or have any fuss.
- 20:39Speaker 1: They just want something that they like the taste of
- 20:42Speaker 1: and it's just changed.
- 20:45Speaker 3: Yes, I'm at dinner. For example, I offer wines when
- 20:48Speaker 3: I have people come over for dinner, and it's generally
- 20:52Speaker 3: Thunderbird or a two buck Chuck, and my guests really
- 20:58Speaker 3: don't know the difference.
- 21:00Speaker 2: Thank you.
- 21:01Speaker 4: Your wife doesn't open up her prosecco, no, Seah, she's
- 21:04Speaker 4: a prosecco. She knows prosecco's cold and she likes them cold.
- 21:08Speaker 4: And the test, by the way, for cannabis people smoking
- 21:12Speaker 4: in the car, there is a test as the.
- 21:15Speaker 3: Police pull you over because you're weeding all over the place.
- 21:18Speaker 3: And if you have six big Macs sitting in the
- 21:20Speaker 3: passenger sheet your seat next to you and you're stuffing
- 21:23Speaker 3: them in your face while you're driving the family.
- 21:26Speaker 1: Bag in Doritos and the chaser. Yeah, so there's there's
- 21:30Speaker 1: a lot of reasons. But it's really sad because you're
- 21:34Speaker 1: talking about a lot of the wines, about eighty percent
- 21:41Speaker 1: or so that come out here in the United States
- 21:44Speaker 1: come out of California. So it's affecting us here in
- 21:48Speaker 1: California by time too. Yeah, And they're selling off the
- 21:53Speaker 1: they're selling off the acreage now for burning things.
- 21:57Speaker 3: Yeah, for example, let me throw a stat In twenty
- 21:59Speaker 3: twenty five, thirty eight thousand acres of wine grapes were
- 22:03Speaker 3: pulled out, just ripped out of the ground, thirty eight
- 22:08Speaker 3: thousand acres, and that is a whole lot of potential wine.
- 22:14Speaker 3: And the grape harvest began in California this month. Thousands
- 22:18Speaker 3: of tons are expected to be left on the vine
- 22:20Speaker 3: because it is cheaper to let them rot than even
- 22:23Speaker 3: harvest them. Hundreds of wineries are expected to close even more.
- 22:30Speaker 2: And it's tough.
- 22:32Speaker 3: Being in the business of wine making and growing grapes
- 22:36Speaker 3: in California. And it used to be one of the
- 22:39Speaker 3: great growth areas, so to speak, and it was California
- 22:44Speaker 3: wines that are just probably some of the best in
- 22:46Speaker 3: the world.
- 22:47Speaker 2: Do you remember the wine to.
- 22:49Speaker 1: Overlap in generations a little bit. The schools were similar,
- 22:56Speaker 1: The schooling was similar, to what you drove was similar.
- 23:00Speaker 1: All these things were similar. You kind of cross over
- 23:02Speaker 1: with your parents a little bit. The last two generations
- 23:06Speaker 1: that have been coming have been very separate and exposed
- 23:10Speaker 1: to things differently than their parents, whether it be social media,
- 23:14Speaker 1: having phones on their hip. All these things have changed
- 23:18Speaker 1: these last two generations completely differently, and we're seeing it
- 23:24Speaker 1: they're distant. They don't want to spend their life working
- 23:28Speaker 1: for a golden watch the end of their retirement. They
- 23:31Speaker 1: want to travel. And with those things, it has a
- 23:35Speaker 1: massive change on what we used to buy and experience
- 23:40Speaker 1: or think as pleasurable.
- 23:42Speaker 3: Yeah, it was not unusual to buy wine in fifty
- 23:45Speaker 3: five gallon metal barrels. You know those metal tens that
- 23:49Speaker 3: you see out there that forget.
- 23:53Speaker 1: It, the big box of wine.
- 23:56Speaker 3: Oh, that's right, Franzia, the big box of one. You
- 24:00Speaker 3: don't see the many of those anymore. All right, we're done, guys, Neil,
- 24:05Speaker 3: thank you. Neil's gonna go out and get plastered now,
- 24:07Speaker 3: as he always does after the show. Actually, you won't
- 24:09Speaker 3: be able to wait till you get your first bit
- 24:11Speaker 3: of alcohol after Bariatric. You will get plastered with just
- 24:16Speaker 3: a couple of SIPs. Just wait until that happens. All right,
- 24:22Speaker 3: we're done, guys. Tomorrow morning we start all over again.
- 24:25Speaker 3: Five to six wake up call with Amy and Will
- 24:28Speaker 3: and Neil and I come aboard Will and or Kno
- 24:32Speaker 3: and and always here to make things work. And tomorrow
- 24:36Speaker 3: morning it's ask handle anything that's at eight thirty. Foody
- 24:41Speaker 3: Friday with Neil so Friday is always fine. Gary and
- 24:45Speaker 3: Shannon up next, same time, same station tomorrow, KFI AM sixty.
- 24:51Speaker 2: You've been listening to the Bill Handle Show.
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