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  Hello
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  everyone and welcome to the concession stand here on the KB Radio Network.
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  I am your host Kevin Reed and this is the review of episode 4 to it.
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  Welcome to
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  which is currently on hbo and hbo max for your viewing pleasure this is quickly becoming one of my favorite shows to watch this year um i i was highly anticipating this show being a big fan of this property as you all know if you've been listening to my reviews and recaps of this season thus far you know that I'm a big fan of
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  it and
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  I was a little skeptical with it because,
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  you know,
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  getting a long-form storytelling element from it,
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  are we going to hit those notes as we got in the miniseries and in the movies?
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  And so far,
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  so good.
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  This was a very eye-opening episode.
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  Excuse the pun.
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  For today,
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  this was,
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  man,
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  look,
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  I don't know if they can keep this momentum going.
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  throughout the show we we're what halfway through so far i think there's eight episodes i can't remember exactly but man they are firing on all cylinders as far as the creep in the scares they really are hitting some really good points here and and the storytelling i'm impressed with the storytelling this episode episode four is
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  the slowest one of the four
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  you know as far as i guess action for lack of a better term but the story is what is keeping you engaged this was a very character driven episode but i'm not complaining even though it's the weaker of the four is still very
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  very good episode four gives us a proper origin to it uh through the
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  I guess the shine that we got from the um indigenous uh person what was his name uh daniel taniel taniel uh we got a a glimpse into the stories that uh these native americans or indigenous people have uh
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  passed on throughout their generations and come to find out that it's true and we got the origin of it and where it it came from you know all in
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  space and if you read the books and full disclosure i didn't read the books but i i did uh do a clip notes version of it in the past so i do know about the turtle and where
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  it came from is basically an alien and why is just centered in dairy main and so i i do know that much so we got a actual depiction of the origin of it.
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  that we didn't get in the miniseries too much and in the films too much didn't touch in on those elements of it and so it was good to see that story and how that house is linked and why uh uh it is relegated to just this portion of
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  the town and why it attacks children and all this and all this and all this and so this episode really flushed all that out and it just got us that much clothes.
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  to actually seeing it to seeing pennywise who we are all itching in our pants to get to i mean we are getting it it is throughout this series so far all four episodes but we haven't seen it manifest itself as
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  bill scars guards character of pennywise the dancing clown but we're getting there we we've gotten uh silhouettes of him but not actually him
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  in this episode uh we find the kids we pick up right off of episode three where the kids took those pictures in the graveyard where they we saw the pictures but when we open up this episode and they bring those pictures to the police and
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  the police don't see that uh nobody else sees the pictures other than the children uh they do see that clown
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  Pitcher,
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  though,
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  they do see the little far-off distance.
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  silhouette in the glowing eyes of the clown figure but still can't really make it out but to the shock of no one their plan did not work and so now is on the plan b or c wherever they at as far as their plans because nothing is working when it comes to trying to clear the name of
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  hank i believe his name is and the father of ronnie of the crime of killing those children in the theater
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  And so we move on to
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  Leroy taking his son out to fish,
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  you know,
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  to spend some time with him one weekend because,
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  you know,
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  they're trying to get a relationship together because they don't have one due to
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  Leroy's work schedule or his commitment to the military.
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  So we don't have that connection.
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  And so he takes him fishing.
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  And while they're fishing,
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  we get an encounter of it.
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  where,
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  what's the character's name?
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  The young black character.
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  Is it Rich or Will?
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  No,
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  it's Will.
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  He encounters the manifestation of his father being burnt up in a crash and dragging him down into this ravine or whatever.
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  And
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  Leroy comes to save him.
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  And
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  Leroy somewhat believes him because...
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  will has marks on his arms like he was clawed by something grabbed and latched on by an animal and they both see the floating balloon and so we get that that whereas leroy is in tune with it he's
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  kind of in tuned with it because leroy doesn't have a fear he doesn't have that gene of fear and so he he's in he's connected to him plus he knows
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  about the shine through uh dick who you know they had the conversation in the last episode so he knows there's something off and will tells him that is something wrong with dairy is is some evil in in dairy so there's
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  that so we leave off with that and we later find out that that is will's fear he always had that fear of his father dying or being burnt alive due to a
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  crash uh airplane crash and uh that's his biggest fear and we know that it manifests itself as your biggest fear and you know i never really said i thought about it today watching this episode i'm
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  like man what is my biggest fear because i have a lot of fears is i don't know what will be constituted as my biggest i think it would have a field day with me i think my biggest fear is
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  frogs and look you can laugh all you want i'm terrified of frogs and so he would probably attack me as kermit the frog or something but there's neither here nor there and so we move on we see um charlotte
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  she's uh she was already set up as this uh uh civil rights activist or this civil rights fighter freedom fighter
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  in the south she's even been arrested and all this other stuff and leroy doesn't want her to conjure up her old ways in dairy you know because they're trying to have this peaceful life there but we all know that that's not going to happen they picked the wrong town to
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  try that but uh she she's taken on the the mission to free hank who is of course uh incarcerated
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  for the murder of those children falsely incarcerated i buy it and she wants to fight the fight because she believes that he's only locked up because he's a black man and so on and so forth wrongfully convicted and
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  so they were not even convicted because he ain't even been to trial yet but he's about to be sent to shawshank and nobody comes home from shawshank that's the that's the tail.
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  And...
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  she goes to the jail she finally gets in after meeting with his grandmother and she writes a letter to allow her to go see him and had to have a little back and forth with one of the one of the officers in order to allow her to go back there and speak so they spoke and
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  she's trying to explain to him how the legal system works this you know i can get you out and so on and so forth.
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  And she wants to know.
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  where he was because his mother told charlotte that i thought he was in his room but he wasn't in his room that night he wasn't there
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  So she wants to know where he really was.
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  It can help him in his case.
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  And he is so guarded by,
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  and
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  I initially thought that,
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  okay,
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  he was at that gay bar,
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  the one in the,
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  the one that they showcased early that he was there.
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  And he has a,
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  he has a male lover and all this here,
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  and this is 1960.
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  So,
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  you know,
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  that it was fraud of it.
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  Well,
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  it's frowned upon now in certain circles.
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  So,
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  Just imagine in the
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  1960s. So he's being guarded about that.
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  And I really thought that's what the secret was.
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  But my God,
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  it was worse.
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  It was far worse.
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  And you would not realize how worse it is unless you're a black man or a black person,
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  period.
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  Come to find out he was with a woman,
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  but not any woman,
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  but a white.
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  and oh my god man my heart dropped that was my fear that that was the scariest thing on this show today because you gotta think
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  1960s uh i don't care how far north you are in the country around that time that that was a no-no baby and it not only was she a white woman but she was married too and so no no no no no
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  they're gonna kill him
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  that's basically what he told me like they wouldn't take me to shawshank if they found this out they'll find the nearest tree and nothing rang truer and i'm like man i wish you would have just said you was gay you
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  would have got off better saying you was gay but that's not what we got and so uh meanwhile our uh og og losers here um
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  they come up with a plan to kind of suppress their fear after they find you know put their heads together and realize that this entity it is manifesting their greatest fears and using it against them and
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  um they come up with a plan to uh take this i guess xanax or something whatever Lily's mom has those pills to kind of
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  mellow them out but so so they won't have any fear and so they have that going for you all the while you have lily and what's the young girl name march yeah march uh they march
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  tries to uh rekindle their friendship all the while they're watching this documentary in class about uh uh flatworms that crawls into snails and cause their eyes to bulge out thinking
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  it's a throwaway little portion of the show didn't know it was going to play such a big role in just a few minutes on this show but she was marge was creeped out by it as i as i was and i remember watching that particular documentary i
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  don't know if it was in school or not because i watched a lot i watched a lot of nature documentaries and stuff like that uh when I was obsessed with those days.
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  So I remember watching that and I'm like,
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  man,
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  that is freaky.
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  It's weird.
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  It's all about the food chain because the tapeworms does that to get,
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  uh,
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  go into the snail.
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  So the snail eyes can pop out to draw the attention of the birds.
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  So the birds can come and eat them.
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  It's,
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  it's,
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  it's crazy how all that is set up.
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  But anyway,
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  that has nothing to do with it.
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  Anyway,
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  we,
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  we go to this.
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  She sets up,
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  uh,
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  through the.
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  this little plan from the patty cakes to set her up to be embarrassed in front of the school so she offers to have lunch with lily and man this was so heartbreaking this this little portion of the show i
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  mean my heart was just pounding a mile a minute for nip lily because i have become such a huge fan of that character and the act little young actress who's
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  playing her she is killing it in this role love her love her in this role uh lily is a character that you can just get behind and it's like she's growing every single episode as far as her acting is
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  is concerned so it was heartbreaking watching this i was more heartbreaking uh broken watching this than it was with her going through
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  running from these ghosts and uh the manifestations of it and the pickle monster and all this other stuff this was heartbreaking because this is real this is something that people went through or are going through in school and whatnot uh
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  being set up being bullied being uh embarrassed amongst your peers and the setup was on and the what made it so heartbreaking was the joy that she had because through four episodes we have not seen a ounce
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  of joy on this young girl's face at no moment and finally she has joy and we're sitting there as an audience knowing that this is
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  false this is not real that she is going to be completely humane uh humiliated in front of the entire school and so that was just that was scarier than any clown with glowing eyes to me but
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  before we got to that when she was in the bathroom she was so scared she was so nervous that she had to use the bathroom and she she went into the bathroom she's in there with marge and
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  Marge is,
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  uh,
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  the whole setup was,
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  um,
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  this boy came and spoke to her.
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  Once again,
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  part of the whole setup,
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  uh,
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  and it's a boy she likes.
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  It's the,
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  it's the heartthrob of the school.
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  And Marge lies to her and tells her like,
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  Hey,
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  you know,
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  he,
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  you know,
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  he likes you,
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  you know,
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  go speak to him and whatnot.
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  So she's like,
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  well,
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  I gotta go wash up in the bathroom.
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  I gotta,
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  I gotta,
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  I gotta clean up.
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  myself and she's in the bathroom she's nervous and she has to she has to pee and so she goes into the stall and marge while she's in there guilt guilt is just killing her and she did a good job here too the actress playing marge and
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  she did a good job here because throughout this whole little process you could you could tell it was like pulling teeth she did not want to do this to her because
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  Despite the fact that they're not quote-unquote friends anymore,
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  they're not hanging out anymore,
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  she still loves her.
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  You know,
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  that's a friend.
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  She don't want to hurt her.
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  And she knows that this will hurt her to her core.
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  And she was about to confess,
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  but before she can confess,
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  it came along.
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  And
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  I thought back to,
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  okay,
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  are we going to have something with her?
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  Because,
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  you know,
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  she wasn't...
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  set up for anything we don't know her backstory what her biggest fear fear is and so what is it and then suddenly she grabbed her eye and immediately i went oh my god oh my god and she's they're gonna do it and showed up her eyes bulge out like the snails and
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  it was the most disgusting thing you can ever see and you felt so bad for her
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  Even though she was going to do this horrific thing to her friend.
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  Nobody deserves that,
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  you know.
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  So she has these snail eyes and she's running around.
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  And Lily,
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  she has the little pill.
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  And she's telling her to calm down because she knows what's happening.
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  She knows that it has something to do with it.
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  And so she grabs the pill to try to get it.
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  She was going to give it to Marge.
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  And she dropped it in the toilet.
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  And so...
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  And she's trying to get it out the toilet.
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  I'm like,
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  no,
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  no,
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  I don't care what I'm going through right now.
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  I'm not putting that in my mouth.
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  But anyways,
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  Marge,
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  she runs into the shop or workshop or whatever,
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  where they do the woodwork in school.
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  And she takes this fowler and she stabs the big eye.
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  And in my mind,
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  I'm like,
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  did she really stab the big eye?
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  big eye or her own i don't know and but then you see the blood on her hands and everything like no she really did it to her eye and so she goes she sees a saw that's set up the little jigsaw thing you
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  know table saw and she's about to cut off these eyes just in uh lily she comes in and she's trying to stop her before she does it and it was like oh my god
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  they're gonna cut her head off or something somebody's gonna walk in and sure enough um she gets her off the table but they're wrestling on the ground and while she's wrestling on the ground her eye is spewing blood it gets over lily and she picks up the file she well
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  that picks it up she takes it out of marge's hand and everybody walks in and she turns around like she's stabbing and it's like oh this is this is worse than the uh embarrassment I mean...
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  this is so much worse oh my god but um
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  That was cool.
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  We don't go back to that.
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  But then we get the big origin story.
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  Now,
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  this is the point of the episode where
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  I like the fact that we got the origin story,
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  but it felt like this portion dragged.
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  It dragged on.
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  It just went on a little too long to get to the point.
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  But I understand.
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  But at the same time,
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  I didn't want this right here,
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  you know,
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  because we were left off with such a.
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  climactic moment uh involving lily and marge and the school and all this here and then it slowed all the way down i mean almost to the it wasn't even a crawl they just were sitting still uh with
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  this story but it was a it was the origin of it and where it came from and how the indigenous people trapped it in this section which later became dairy the town and so
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  all that makes sense but it was just the pacing of that particular point of the episode um the rest of it was great uh the rest of it i enjoyed i enjoyed that portion it just went too long then you know that's
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  the only thing and uh at the end of the episode we get the reveal that that house the the main house from the show from uh not the show but the miniseries and the movies that's
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  the point of origin where you can go into the mines and we all know that if we saw the movies that's how the losers the kids got into the house and went to the tunnels and went to where uh it drills uh so yes um it's
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  just an episode to let everybody know that we are inching closer to pennywise and i don't know how they're gonna you know incorporate
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  penny rise at this point how he's going to work into the story so far that's the only thing that's kind of confusing i'm just letting myself go and going with it but uh the manifestations are are enough to be honest with you we're just being greedy trying
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  to find penny wise to you know the dancing clown that we just being greedy at this point but i'm all in i'm enjoying it uh this was Cool.
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  like i said this was the weaker of the four but it was still exciting nonetheless but that's just my thoughts i would love to know yours what did you think of episode four of it welcome to therian what do you think of the show so far four episodes in is it living up to the lore that
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  stephen king blessed us with in the early
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  the concession stand here on the kb radio network everybody thank you for joining me for this review and recap of episode four it welcome
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  to Derry.
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  I want you all to know that I love you.
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  Continue to love everyone,
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  and until we speak again,
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  you all be blessed.