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Jags Drive Time: Tuesday, April 13 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Jaguars. Did you go like Jaguars? Did you? Jaguars Drive
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Speaker 1: Time and Sex steps to John Oss, You actually seller
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Speaker 1: Jaguars draw A Time starts right now. Good morning, fulcome
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Speaker 1: in Jaguars Drive Time. It is April, April, thirtee, hateful April.
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Speaker 1: It's my birthday month, April, two weeks away from the draft.
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Speaker 1: A little busy, kind of the calm before the storm.
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Speaker 1: But we're looking forward to it, John, and go ahead,
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Speaker 1: I'll see him up. He likes to make fun when
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Speaker 1: I wear camouflage because he can't seem so just tee
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Speaker 1: it up. Go ahead and make fun of me. I'll
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Speaker 1: get past this. I'm not sure why I'm sitting here
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Speaker 1: alone on the desk, Bryant. I can't see schlann Ah.
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Speaker 1: I'm wearing the bright blue so that you can't miss me.
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Speaker 1: Not quite hunter orange, which is what we wear when
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Speaker 1: we hunt, sent back in the Midwest where I'm from.
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Speaker 1: But I thought the blue might catch your attention. It does.
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Speaker 1: I can't quite see sex and at their pheasant hunting.
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Speaker 1: That's now, that's an image. True story, true story. I
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Speaker 1: grew up as a dog. I was the hunting dog.
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Speaker 1: I had an orange jacket on, and before I was
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Speaker 1: old enough to be out there with a gun in
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Speaker 1: my hand, my dad had my twin brother and I
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Speaker 1: out there trying to raise the birds up. Wow, that's
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Speaker 1: going to be a storyline. Brian Sexton grew up as
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Speaker 1: dogs equals dog. There's plenty of people that would say, yeah,
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Speaker 1: no kidding, We've we've known that for years. All right,
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Speaker 1: now with that, let's get into big things. We're a
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Speaker 1: little off tangent here this morning. Big thing one is
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Speaker 1: what's the compromise. Coaches in owners, especially someone like Urban Myer,
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Speaker 1: wants off season programs in person. Oh t is on
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Speaker 1: the field, players and the facility team meetings in person,
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Speaker 1: but not so fast. The nfl p A, led by
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Speaker 1: this man Brown center j C. Treader said it is
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Speaker 1: voluntary and we won't be showing up and is urging
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Speaker 1: the nfl p A and players to push for a
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Speaker 1: fully virtual off season program. So what's the compromise. Kind
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Speaker 1: of have to meet in the middle here, so we
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Speaker 1: will talk about that. Big thing too is hybrid scheme.
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Speaker 1: This is for you. John Osier, Joe Colin, defensive coordinator,
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Speaker 1: met with Jaguars dot Com and John and said not
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Speaker 1: a three four, not a four three. It is a
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Speaker 1: hybrid defense with a lot of looks, not just once
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Speaker 1: so and I even getting some questions on that, John,
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Speaker 1: So we'll talk about that. And Big Thing three is
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Speaker 1: a franchise defining nights. Two weeks away from the NFL
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Speaker 1: Draft in the first round on Thursday, we're gonna have
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Speaker 1: a draft party here in the stadium. We're gonna have
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Speaker 1: coverage all kinds of it on Jaguars dot Com, and
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Speaker 1: we're looking forward to I don't know if I'm dramatic
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Speaker 1: when I say this for Ian, but I'm gonna say
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Speaker 1: it anyway, the most important night in franchise history. Well,
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Speaker 1: I mean it's certainly up there with the biggest nights,
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Speaker 1: including November when the franchise was awarded. Uh. Let me
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Speaker 1: put it this way. The franchise will become unrecognizable to
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Speaker 1: those of whom uh it has become difficult over the
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Speaker 1: last ten twelve years to watch. Um. This this is
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Speaker 1: the moment where it all changes. This is the the
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Speaker 1: the what's the right word, the confluence? Right, This is
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Speaker 1: where the future and the present meet and create a
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Speaker 1: new path forward. This kid is special and we've never
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Speaker 1: had a quarterback like this in Jacksonville never had a
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Speaker 1: star performer to this level like we were about to
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Speaker 1: have in Jacksonville. And um so yeah, I mean it's
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Speaker 1: right there with the two or three biggest nights in
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Speaker 1: franchise history. To say that it's franchise defining might be
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Speaker 1: a little bit of an understatement. I mean, this is
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Speaker 1: it's huge. It is going to be a big, big night,
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Speaker 1: and we're looking forward to it. It's the biggest night.
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Speaker 1: And you know, he's uh boy, we hope he's good. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and I'm assuming he will be. But you know, it's
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Speaker 1: it's the biggest night in franchise history as long as
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Speaker 1: he's as good as everybody believes he is. So uh,
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be fun to watch, no doubt it will.
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Speaker 1: Let's go back up to big thing one, which is
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Speaker 1: the the TIFT I guess you can call it with
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Speaker 1: the nfl p A and what the coaches and owners want.
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Speaker 1: So let's go to Tom Pella Sero, who's talking about
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Speaker 1: the n f L p A and its president, who
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Speaker 1: is Brown center J C. Tredder, who is urging players
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Speaker 1: to boycott if teams conduct in person o t A
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Speaker 1: s the spring Now some of this is because of
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Speaker 1: COVID and concerns with that. But Brian, I don't know
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Speaker 1: if I should be nervous about this, but this is
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Speaker 1: gonna have to You're gonna have to find some middle
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Speaker 1: ground here. You can't go fully in person, maybe you
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Speaker 1: can't go fully virtual, maybe a little bit of both here. Well,
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Speaker 1: I mean it compromises the name of the game between
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Speaker 1: the owners and the players. It always has been. But
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Speaker 1: since Jimmy Johnson changed the landscape of the off season
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Speaker 1: for pro football players gosh, thirty years ago, back when
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Speaker 1: he took the Dallas Cowboys job, the players have been
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Speaker 1: trying to claw back some of the off season. You
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Speaker 1: can ask Jeff Logerman what he used to do in
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Speaker 1: the off season. There was maybe a mini camp, but
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Speaker 1: working out meant, you know, getting yourself in shape, keeping
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Speaker 1: yourself in shape, and then showing up for a longer
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Speaker 1: training camp before the preseason began, and using that time
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Speaker 1: to get an actual football shape. And then Jimmy Johnson
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Speaker 1: came in and created the off season program and the
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Speaker 1: O t A. And then, of course, because Jimmy did it,
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Speaker 1: other coaches around the league copied it, and then it
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Speaker 1: became a thorn during the negotiations of bargaining chip is
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Speaker 1: probably the better way to put it. And it grew
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Speaker 1: to the point where in two thousand and eleven they
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Speaker 1: add to change that I am a completely and say,
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Speaker 1: here's how many days you can be in here's when
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Speaker 1: coaches and players can talk football. You know, we all
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Speaker 1: scratched our head and said, this doesn't make any sense.
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Speaker 1: What do you mean they can't talk football in February.
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Speaker 1: But it was all designed to clawback some of the
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Speaker 1: player's time, and it went back to Jimmy Johnson. So
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Speaker 1: what Trader is essentially doing is swinging the pendulum all
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Speaker 1: the way to the other side and saying, look, we
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Speaker 1: shouldn't have any offseason in person workouts. We we didn't.
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Speaker 1: We didn't do it last year and it worked just fine.
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Speaker 1: Let's make that the standard and somewhere there's a compromise
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Speaker 1: waiting to be had. Did it work fine? Though? And
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Speaker 1: I get it. I feel like which I am because
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Speaker 1: for years I've said that the off season is overrated,
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Speaker 1: and I do believe it is for older players, but
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Speaker 1: for younger players and and for teams coming together, I
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Speaker 1: don't think it's overrated. So I guess I would come
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Speaker 1: down on this side of it. When Jeff played, we
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Speaker 1: refer to Jeff Loagman early nineties nineties, the training camps
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Speaker 1: were longer. You could do more in the training camps.
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Speaker 1: He had two days in the training camp. There was
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Speaker 1: more practice time, so you know, to not have an
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Speaker 1: off season. Then when you were able to do so
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Speaker 1: much work during training camp and when the season there
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Speaker 1: were no rules on hitting, I get that players needed
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Speaker 1: more of a break at that point. Now though, for
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Speaker 1: these young guys, you know, I guess if if I'm
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Speaker 1: a rookie or a first year player, I would say,
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Speaker 1: be careful what you wish for. Wish for no O
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Speaker 1: t A s. But remember that that name that may
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Speaker 1: not be the best thing for all young players to happen.
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Speaker 1: So I I don't think it's in the best interest
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Speaker 1: of young players and young teams to not have O
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Speaker 1: T A s. And you know, I guess the young
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Speaker 1: folks out there like Slenn are looking at me saying,
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Speaker 1: you know, okay, get off my lawn again. But there's
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Speaker 1: a lot of truth to that. Now. I'm with you.
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Speaker 1: You know, John, most people in this world are overachievers, right,
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Speaker 1: I mean, they get out of life what they put
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Speaker 1: into it. They scratch and claw and build a business
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Speaker 1: or a career. They work long nights and weekends, um
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Speaker 1: and and that to me, in two thousand and eleven,
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Speaker 1: when the cb A changed and really restricted things, that
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Speaker 1: was the part that stood out to me. The undrafted rookie,
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Speaker 1: the guy in pro football who has to be the overachiever,
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Speaker 1: was immediately put at a disadvantage. And I think that
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Speaker 1: plays into it. Not having an off season really protects
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Speaker 1: older players because they know the system, they know how
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Speaker 1: to get their bodies ready. They don't have to go
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Speaker 1: in there and make their name every single day like
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Speaker 1: a Keelan Cole did. So I'm with you. I don't
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Speaker 1: think it makes sense. There's a negotiation to be had
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Speaker 1: here somewhere between the players and the owners, and maybe
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Speaker 1: they go back to more hitting during training camp. If
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Speaker 1: they're gonna have to give up time virtually a pardon
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Speaker 1: in person, in favor of virtual time in the off season.
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Speaker 1: I don't know where it goes, but what I do
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Speaker 1: know is that tred Or is swinging the pendulum way
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Speaker 1: back to the other side to try to change this dynamic. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: at first I thought maybe the happy medium would be okay, Well,
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Speaker 1: then a rookie mini camp is really really important. You
9:17
Speaker 1: got to put a bunch of emphasis on that. But
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Speaker 1: then I think about Trevor Lawrence coming in here and
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Speaker 1: that's timing with the receivers, and what if Lavisco Chanalde
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Speaker 1: is an at rookie mini camp, and is that hindering
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Speaker 1: their relationship just timing receivers, but getting to know these guys,
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Speaker 1: just being in the building, because you can't really do
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Speaker 1: during a zoom cause I could easily see a scenario
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Speaker 1: where they said, you know, if it's a if it's
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Speaker 1: a second year head coach, and you don't you know,
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Speaker 1: requires such a tough word because it's already volunteary. I'm
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Speaker 1: not sure how much more it can be than voluntary,
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Speaker 1: because unless you just say you cannot have these at all,
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Speaker 1: then players are going to rightfully feel like they should
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Speaker 1: be there because it's an opportunity. So it's we're not
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Speaker 1: gonna figure out the answer. I just don't think it's
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Speaker 1: good for young players. I agree with that. And let's
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Speaker 1: move on to a big thing too. And one thing
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Speaker 1: that is good, at least for John Osan and Jaguars
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Speaker 1: dot Com is we got some type of clarification of
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Speaker 1: what this defense is going to look like. Defensive coordinator
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Speaker 1: Joe Collins said, it is going to look much more
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Speaker 1: like a hybrid scheme. It's not a set three four,
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Speaker 1: it's not a four three. There's going to be some
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Speaker 1: in between. And John, that was probably just music to
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Speaker 1: your ears when you heard everybody wants to take all
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Speaker 1: this and fitted into it, and they want to put
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Speaker 1: it three four and they want to put little things
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Speaker 1: on a depth chart and have it be through one
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Speaker 1: to three, and you're in a organized It doesn't work
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Speaker 1: that way because the NFL has changed so much um
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Speaker 1: from the days when you did roll out there and
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Speaker 1: you had a three four defense with three lineman, four linebacker,
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Speaker 1: four dvs and you and you occasionally might put in
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Speaker 1: a nickel or a dime package. Now there are so
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Speaker 1: many different situations you change things based on who you're playing.
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Speaker 1: It's a hybrid defense. It's not fair to call it
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Speaker 1: a pure three four or a pure four three. The
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Speaker 1: reality is it's gonna change based on who they're playing
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Speaker 1: and on the strength of the personnel, and for it's
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Speaker 1: not necessarily going to print going to fit your print
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Speaker 1: out slant and I know you're a big factor in
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Speaker 1: all this you want to answer, but it's gonna be
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Speaker 1: a hybrid defense. I would tell you that it will
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Speaker 1: be interesting to see the types of players that they
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Speaker 1: draft on the defensive side of the ball. You remember this, John,
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Speaker 1: back when when not every defense was hybrid, Because let's
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Speaker 1: be honest, every defensive coordinating in the league is going
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Speaker 1: to say something similar to what Joe Colin said. You know,
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Speaker 1: they'll have a base here, but they'll give different looks.
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Speaker 1: You know, you get so many people in the line
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Speaker 1: of scrimmage nowadays it looks like an eight man front
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Speaker 1: half the time. So I'll be interested to see the
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Speaker 1: guys that they draft. If you remember back in the
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Speaker 1: day when the Steelers and the Ravens were the teams
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Speaker 1: that and the Bills prime early, they had that big,
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Speaker 1: hulking nose tackle Uh. They didn't have these big, long,
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Speaker 1: athletic defensive ends. They had guys like Kimo von Olhoffen.
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Speaker 1: You know, if you remember him from the Steelers and
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Speaker 1: Bengals days, you know six ft four, Uh wasn't a
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Speaker 1: speed rusher, was more of a defensive tackle playing at
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Speaker 1: a five technique, and his whole job was to try
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Speaker 1: to jam up the corners so that the ends could
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Speaker 1: get outside. I'm just gonna pay attention on draft day
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Speaker 1: to the types of players the way the linebackers look. Um,
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Speaker 1: you know, not every team in the league saw Levon
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Speaker 1: Kirkland out of Clemson all those years ago as a
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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl linebacker inside in a three or four defense.
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Speaker 1: A lot of them thought he was gonna be a
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Speaker 1: guy who put his hand on the ground eventually because
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Speaker 1: he was so big. So we'll see what he does
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Speaker 1: with with the type of personnel. But the takeaway from
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Speaker 1: me is every defense in the league is some form
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Speaker 1: of a hybrid. Yes, it's the trendy thing to be
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Speaker 1: nowadays it's a hybrid defense. Well, it's the thing you
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Speaker 1: have to be because the way the game has changed.
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Speaker 1: And sure, if you watched the Ravens, it's really hard
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Speaker 1: if you watch four or five Ravens plays, which is
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Speaker 1: where Joe Colin came from, it's hard to know what
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Speaker 1: they're in before snap because they're moving around so much. So, uh,
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Speaker 1: once the season starts, I don't think this question will
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Speaker 1: matter that much. Totally agree. And now we moved to
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Speaker 1: something very very crucial we must talk toasters. Let's go
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Speaker 1: to Trevor Lawrences. What do you what do you call this?
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Speaker 1: Married folk? What do you call this thing? Registry? Is
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Speaker 1: that what it is like? You don't know. You've been
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Speaker 1: playing your register since you were five. The toaster online
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Speaker 1: are a kidding. I'm sure you do, Slynn. That's a
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Speaker 1: three dollar cutting board. Gotta have that in your house.
13:44
Speaker 1: I've got a I've got a kitchen counter and I've
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Speaker 1: I've got a toaster that I may have picked up
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Speaker 1: in a garage. The le may have come out of
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Speaker 1: my garage. That's not true. Sherry wouldn't allow that, but
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Speaker 1: given my druthers, I would have a counter and a
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Speaker 1: garage sale toaster, all right? Fair enough for those that
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Speaker 1: don't know, Jaguars Twitter banded together, I guess you could
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Speaker 1: call it this weekend and purchased Trevor Lawrence his toaster
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Speaker 1: as a welcome gift. And I believe it. It's up
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Speaker 1: to seven thousand dollars that Jaguars Twitter has raised that
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Speaker 1: they will give to him to donate to the charity
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Speaker 1: of his choice along with the gifted toaster. And kidding aside,
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Speaker 1: I don't think anybody who watches this show, or anybody
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Speaker 1: who's in Jacksonville who's aware of Jaguars Twitter is remotely
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Speaker 1: surprised at this story. You know, the guys who were
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Speaker 1: involved with this dull end cap and those guys, you know,
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Speaker 1: it's not surprising that they organized this, and anybody locally
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Speaker 1: and anybody who's on Twitter who's ever gone to war
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Speaker 1: with Jaguars Twitter kind of gets this. I think what's
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Speaker 1: cool is Trevor Lawrence hasn't been in this world yet.
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Speaker 1: He probably has some sort of awareness. He's probably seen duval.
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Speaker 1: But think about it. Before you got here, Schlnn. You know,
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Speaker 1: you really didn't know what Jaguars Twitter. You know, it
14:56
Speaker 1: takes a couple of weeks to figure out just how
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Speaker 1: nuts these guys are in a great way. Well, I
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Speaker 1: guarantee you Trevor is aware of it now, so I
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Speaker 1: think he has it's cool because he's being introduced and
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Speaker 1: I think this has to you know, warm his heart
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Speaker 1: to some degree and that this is pretty cool. So
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Speaker 1: credit to you guys again. Yes, very cool story, very funny,
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Speaker 1: well done Jaguars Twitter. And we would like to have
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Speaker 1: a toaster as well, a Jaguars dot Com toaster. I
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Speaker 1: have a registrational line. Let's start the movement, shall we.
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Speaker 1: It's it's a contribute to John Osian movement. Cheez okay,
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Speaker 1: never mind, now it won't work. That doesn't, That doesn't.
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Speaker 1: That doesn't surprise anybody that you would say that. The
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Speaker 1: one thing I'll say is that it's um. We saw
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Speaker 1: it in Buffalo this year when the the the Bill's
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Speaker 1: Mafia connected with Josh Allen in a very strong and
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Speaker 1: distinct way, and it's it's cool to see the fans
15:53
Speaker 1: be able to connect with such a star performer like
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Speaker 1: a Josh Allen or Trevor Lawrence on a very personal level.
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure that that's ever that's ever been the case.
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Speaker 1: You know, these guys, these great players have always been
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Speaker 1: sort of what's the right term, They've been set apart,
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Speaker 1: They've been tough to get to. UM. I'll be interested
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Speaker 1: to see how Trevor lords responds. Yes, he's a star
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Speaker 1: and he isn't even here yet. Toaster stories. Gotta love it.
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Speaker 1: Time Tuesday morning, and we are two weeks away from
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Speaker 1: through three. Brian's Sexton, what do you got for us?
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Speaker 1: All right? Well, so the Jaguars in their free agency
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Speaker 1: the best player at every position. Uh So, obviously the
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Speaker 1: first one is set in stone. I went with Zaven Collins,
19:13
Speaker 1: the linebacker from Tulsa. He looks like a the perfect
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Speaker 1: player for a hybrid defense. He's six five, he's two
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Speaker 1: hundred and sixty pounds, and yet he's a guy that
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Speaker 1: they think can play inside or outside and maybe even
19:30
Speaker 1: might be a better pass rusher at the pro level
19:33
Speaker 1: than he was in college. I just look at this guy,
19:35
Speaker 1: and there aren't many linebackers like this that fit this mold,
19:39
Speaker 1: with the size and the length and the speed and
19:42
Speaker 1: the aggressiveness that he brings to the table. I know
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Speaker 1: he played at Tulsa, it's not a huge school, but
19:48
Speaker 1: the word on this guy is he fits in the
19:49
Speaker 1: mid twenties somewhere, and I think he might be the
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Speaker 1: best player. Now. I say that because I have the
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Speaker 1: top corners coming off the board. I think Farley from
19:57
Speaker 1: Virginia Tech has gone by this point, and so looking
20:00
Speaker 1: and saying who's the best player on I think he's
20:03
Speaker 1: he's right there at Davon Collins. Then the first pick
20:06
Speaker 1: in the second round really is a premium pick because
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Speaker 1: and there's gonna be a lot of general managers looking
20:15
Speaker 1: at their boards as the night goes on and thinking
20:18
Speaker 1: who do I want and what will I pay. John
20:21
Speaker 1: has mentioned a couple of different times that Trent Bulk
20:23
Speaker 1: he's a guy whose history suggests he moves all over
20:26
Speaker 1: the place during the draft. There will be a lot
20:29
Speaker 1: of phone calls to the Jaguars between the end of
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Speaker 1: the first round and the start of the second about
20:35
Speaker 1: what they want for the thirty third pick. But I
20:38
Speaker 1: have them staying and taking a guy that is the
20:41
Speaker 1: best defensive tackle on the board. He's the best defensive
20:44
Speaker 1: player probably on the board at this point, big, strong,
20:47
Speaker 1: strapping guy who's best football is in front of him.
20:50
Speaker 1: And a lot like Chris Jones, who came out of
20:52
Speaker 1: Mississippi State, a guy who the questions about him were,
20:56
Speaker 1: you know, he doesn't play hard every down, he doesn't
20:59
Speaker 1: have big game after big game. But yeah, Chris Jones
21:02
Speaker 1: has become an All Pro player, and when you look
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Speaker 1: at Christian Barmore in the way that he played in
21:05
Speaker 1: the college football playoffs. He looks like a guy who
21:08
Speaker 1: can do the exact same thing. Then coming up, I've
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Speaker 1: got Pat Fryar with the tight end from Penn State.
21:14
Speaker 1: Remember his college coach offensive coordinator is the tight ends
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Speaker 1: coach in Jacksonville, and he fits there somewhere between thirty
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Speaker 1: five and forty five. Again, maybe they have to move
21:24
Speaker 1: around to find him, but this is a guy. He's
21:26
Speaker 1: not Pitts, but he's the next best tight end on
21:29
Speaker 1: the board. And we'll end it up with a wide
21:31
Speaker 1: receiver who's climbing. Diannie Brown from u n c um
21:36
Speaker 1: really highly recruited guy, stayed in state to go to
21:39
Speaker 1: North Carolina. He is a Stefon Diggs kind of player.
21:43
Speaker 1: I don't know if he has the explosive speed that
21:45
Speaker 1: Diggs has, but he's a terrific route runner from everything
21:48
Speaker 1: that I hear. Uh six foot about nine pounds, so
21:52
Speaker 1: good size, not crazy size, but he's been a touchdown maker,
21:55
Speaker 1: a big playmaker at North Carolina throughout the years. And
21:58
Speaker 1: again it looks like he fit somewhere there in the
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Speaker 1: third round. Very well done, sir, that would be a
22:04
Speaker 1: huge win. Of Christian Barmore made it to the second
22:07
Speaker 1: day and then Jaguars able to get him out of
22:09
Speaker 1: the first round, that would be for sure a win. Yeah,
22:13
Speaker 1: it's interesting. I talked to Tony Pauline, who is a
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Speaker 1: very respected draft anounce yesterday. He believes that Barmore will slide.
22:21
Speaker 1: He also believes that Arius Tony will slide. He believes
22:24
Speaker 1: that Travis Etienne will slide. So a lot of the
22:26
Speaker 1: guys that that Jaguars fans have been talking about sounds
22:30
Speaker 1: like they will have opportunities mean the Jaguars to look
22:34
Speaker 1: at them at thirty three, forty five, some combination of that.
22:38
Speaker 1: That's sort of part of my draft. I won't bury that,
22:43
Speaker 1: but drumroll please um. Obviously Trevor Lawrence number one, and
22:51
Speaker 1: then I went with the approach of you draft offense
22:57
Speaker 1: and buy defense. So I only went with one defensive
23:01
Speaker 1: player in all this. The first one Trevin Merrick from
23:04
Speaker 1: Texas Christian he uh, he fits what is a perceived
23:08
Speaker 1: need at safety. He is the best safety in the draft.
23:12
Speaker 1: If this is the way they're going for more of
23:15
Speaker 1: an immediate need slash value pick. To me, he makes sense.
23:19
Speaker 1: There um. I then went with two guys who I
23:24
Speaker 1: believe somewhere in the top six. We're only in the
23:27
Speaker 1: five somewhere in their top six players the Jaguars draft
23:30
Speaker 1: that they will do something along the lines of having
23:33
Speaker 1: two of those spots at speed. Er Meyer talked about
23:37
Speaker 1: playing fast. He talked about speed. You know, they want
23:39
Speaker 1: to be more explosive than they have been. They really
23:42
Speaker 1: didn't do that that much in free agency. Uh Philip Dorset, yes,
23:48
Speaker 1: is a speed guy. But if they really want to
23:50
Speaker 1: add young speed at Tienna thirty three, Rondel Moore at
23:57
Speaker 1: I'll be honest More scares me a little bit. That
24:00
Speaker 1: size is a little scary to me, but the speed
24:03
Speaker 1: is unbelievable, So he makes sense. At some point, I
24:05
Speaker 1: think you got to get a tight end so brevn
24:07
Speaker 1: Jordan and Miami at number sixty five. But yeah, it's
24:12
Speaker 1: where I sort of diverge a little bit from Brian.
24:14
Speaker 1: Defensive tackle this year is such a strange position in
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Speaker 1: the draft that I just wonder if they will be
24:20
Speaker 1: able to address in the top sixty five. It's if
24:22
Speaker 1: it's not bar More, you wonder who it is. Maybe
24:25
Speaker 1: you wait and try to develop that with a third
24:26
Speaker 1: or fourth round guy. Yeah, I totally agree. When we
24:28
Speaker 1: were at the Senior Bowl, it was if you don't
24:30
Speaker 1: get that guy in the first round, is it worth
24:33
Speaker 1: making a pick in doing that? Yeah? And you have
24:36
Speaker 1: to decide is the best defensive tackle just because he's
24:39
Speaker 1: a good player compared to this class, is he worth
24:42
Speaker 1: that sort of value? Absolutely? All right? Time for my
24:45
Speaker 1: my opinion, real quick, go ahead. I'm just gonna say
24:48
Speaker 1: there are three. There are three defensive tackles. The kid
24:51
Speaker 1: from Alabama, the kid from Iowa, and the kid from Washington.
24:54
Speaker 1: I think all three of them belong in the top
24:56
Speaker 1: forty five. I think they're all three good players. So
25:00
Speaker 1: I don't think it's overreaching. Uh. If one of those
25:03
Speaker 1: three players is there, we'll see all right. Time for
25:05
Speaker 1: my mock draft. And like John said, could there is
25:08
Speaker 1: Tony sliding? I think he slides today two and the
25:12
Speaker 1: Jaguars get him in the second round. I'm I'm with
25:14
Speaker 1: Brian at going lineback around. I just picked a different guy.
25:18
Speaker 1: But I could first see that happening because, like we said,
25:21
Speaker 1: if you need defense, you gotta get it quick. And
25:24
Speaker 1: I thought you skipped that because you didn't want to
25:26
Speaker 1: say the kids name. I did see that. Yes, I
25:28
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25:31
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25:34
Speaker 1: it up. And then I have safety at forty five
25:37
Speaker 1: and I know this is risky, but I have the
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Speaker 1: Penn state tight and sliding the sixty five, which I
25:42
Speaker 1: know sounds unrealistic, but with the run at quarterbacks, I'm
25:46
Speaker 1: thinking maybe a position like more and more you see
25:49
Speaker 1: him sliding to that point, it might be possibility. And
25:51
Speaker 1: that would be a huge one if they were able
25:52
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25:55
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25:57
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Speaker 1: We're back Jack's Drive time on a Tuesday morning. We
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Speaker 1: went through some mock drafts. We went through some big things.
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Speaker 1: Some NFL headlines for you, and no surprise, it's very
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Speaker 1: quarterback Centrick This week, Sam Donald, a Carolina Panther Teddy
28:50
Speaker 1: Bridgewater has permission now request a trade. He was with
28:53
Speaker 1: Carolina and now all signs point towards the New York
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Speaker 1: Jets drafting Zach Wilson. You and I were talking about
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Speaker 1: this the other day when we said, this was almost
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Speaker 1: the only way this could go. You couldn't have Sam
29:07
Speaker 1: Donald in New York and have Zach Wilson come in.
29:09
Speaker 1: That would have just been messy. They had again him out,
29:12
Speaker 1: and it seems like this is a pretty good trade
29:14
Speaker 1: for both sides. Well, I know Sam Donald's happy with it.
29:18
Speaker 1: The uncertainty around his situation. I think he said yesterday,
29:22
Speaker 1: maybe it was the day before that. You know, he
29:24
Speaker 1: was drafted third overall, thought he would play twenty years
29:27
Speaker 1: in New York and be the guy who lifted that franchise.
29:29
Speaker 1: And over the last two years on a bad roster.
29:32
Speaker 1: I mean, let's just be completely clear about this. There
29:35
Speaker 1: was nothing around him whatsoever. He had no chance for success.
29:38
Speaker 1: So now at least he gets a chance to go
29:40
Speaker 1: down to work with the with Matt Rule and Joe Brady,
29:43
Speaker 1: who are two very strong football minds. The roster needs
29:46
Speaker 1: work in Carolina. But this is a guy, you know,
29:48
Speaker 1: big body, big arm uh, smart cat, you know, a
29:51
Speaker 1: guy who knows how to play. We'll see if he
29:54
Speaker 1: can rejuvenate his career or if you know, he becomes
29:56
Speaker 1: like a lot of other highly drafted quarterbacks that don't
29:59
Speaker 1: pay it out and just kind of fades away. Fresh
30:03
Speaker 1: start for Sam Donald with the Carolina Panthers. And now
30:06
Speaker 1: we go to the other side of the spectrum, which
30:07
Speaker 1: is Aaron Rodgers in green Bay. John Is that still
30:11
Speaker 1: holds me up. Last year with Green Bay trading up
30:15
Speaker 1: to get that quarterback, they could have gotten another weapon
30:17
Speaker 1: for Aaron Rodgers, a wide receiver, a tight end to
30:20
Speaker 1: make it to the playoff. They don't make it all
30:21
Speaker 1: the way you make the argument with that one guy
30:24
Speaker 1: made a difference. It's it's sticky in Green Bay right now.
30:28
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm naive. I can't believe that the Packers and
30:33
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers won't figure out a way for him to
30:36
Speaker 1: finish his career there. And but as soon as I
30:39
Speaker 1: say that, I get that Tom Brady didn't finish his
30:42
Speaker 1: career in New England. But it just feels like they
30:46
Speaker 1: are not gonna want to repeat up there of Brett
30:49
Speaker 1: Farve leaving and then having to coast and sort of
30:52
Speaker 1: come back and re embrace after the career. Right now,
30:54
Speaker 1: Aon Rodgers is still too good, you know. I just
30:57
Speaker 1: can't imagine them not keeping him for his career. No,
31:00
Speaker 1: I agree. Maybe they just chalk it up as that,
31:02
Speaker 1: what if Jeopardy offers him a lifetime contract, maybe maybe
31:06
Speaker 1: you could do it in the off season, imbalance it
31:08
Speaker 1: and it would be the best of both worlds. And
31:10
Speaker 1: I don't know, if you're Aaron Rodgers and someone, I'm
31:13
Speaker 1: gonna guess he would make as much doing Jeopardy as
31:15
Speaker 1: he would playing football at some point. Right, Jeopardy doesn't
31:19
Speaker 1: beat your body up, just your mind. There you go. Alright,
31:22
Speaker 1: Houston Texans, it's looking more and more like the Shawn
31:25
Speaker 1: Watson might not be playing football this upcoming season. This
31:28
Speaker 1: investigation is going on and we don't know what to
31:30
Speaker 1: make of it. So let's say, for this argument that
31:33
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson is not into Houston, and that would mean
31:37
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor most likely is the guy Brian does. Does
31:41
Speaker 1: that scare you? Are you okay with that indifference? No?
31:44
Speaker 1: There there There are people who covered the Texans and
31:48
Speaker 1: people in the national media who have used the term
31:50
Speaker 1: expansion roster um. No J J. Watt. Uh. You know
31:54
Speaker 1: a lot of those players on the defensive side that
31:56
Speaker 1: were so formidable for so many years have gotten older. Uh,
32:00
Speaker 1: They have no draft picks before the six pick. I
32:03
Speaker 1: believe nothing in the first two rounds, and and their
32:06
Speaker 1: cap is it's convoluted. So because you have a quarterback
32:10
Speaker 1: who you don't I don't think anybody anticipates to Shaun
32:14
Speaker 1: Watson playing football this year. There's just so many looming
32:18
Speaker 1: issues for him to try to battle through. I I
32:21
Speaker 1: don't know enough about it. I'm not on the legal
32:23
Speaker 1: team or anything like that. I don't cover the Texans.
32:26
Speaker 1: But the more I read about it, the more I think,
32:27
Speaker 1: how's this guy going to play in the fall? So
32:30
Speaker 1: I would think it would be Tyrod Taylor or maybe
32:32
Speaker 1: they trade for uh trendy Teddy Bridgewater since the new
32:36
Speaker 1: coach in Houston was on the staff in Carolina last year.
32:40
Speaker 1: Although Bridgewater has a big number, twenty million dollar plus number,
32:43
Speaker 1: I don't know whether they can make that happen. It's
32:45
Speaker 1: a mess. And two years ago this was a team
32:48
Speaker 1: that was at the top of the division and they
32:50
Speaker 1: have fallen off like that. It really is a stunning development. Yeah,
32:56
Speaker 1: you can't see this turn around anytime soon fast the NFL,
33:00
Speaker 1: and right now, uh, what they need more than anything
33:06
Speaker 1: is in the next X number of months to figure
33:10
Speaker 1: out what Shaun Watson's NFL future is in terms of
33:14
Speaker 1: being able to play, and then the future with the text,
33:16
Speaker 1: and it feels like they're a year out from deciding that.
33:20
Speaker 1: I don't know if they can decide his future with
33:22
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33:25
Speaker 1: So they're in a big delay right now. It might
33:28
Speaker 1: work out timing wise, since they don't have any draft
33:30
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33:33
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33:37
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