Latest / 360 with Katie Woolf / Katie Woolf spoke with Master Builders NT Chief Executive Dave Malone on the NT Budget
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hello, Katie Wolf and three point sixty online at Mix
- 0:03Speaker 1: one O four nine dot com. So the construction sector
- 0:07Speaker 1: and joining us live on the line, Master Builders NT
- 0:10Speaker 1: CEO Dave Malone, Good morning.
- 0:13Speaker 2: Dave, Good morning, Katie.
- 0:14Speaker 1: How are you very well now? Dave? What was your
- 0:16Speaker 1: reaction to the budget yesterday when it was handed down?
- 0:21Speaker 2: Well, Katie, you know, our first reaction was that if
- 0:24Speaker 2: you were sitting back and working out a budget for
- 0:26Speaker 2: the territory, this is pretty much where you'd probably land.
- 0:29Speaker 2: There will always be you know, issues on the margin
- 0:32Speaker 2: where people might expect something different. But you know, we're
- 0:35Speaker 2: coming out of a COVID pandemic. You know, the government
- 0:38Speaker 2: has a lot of different responsibilities on its play. It
- 0:41Speaker 2: is spent really big, really big, to be honest, and
- 0:45Speaker 2: so this is pretty much what you would expect.
- 0:48Speaker 1: And what were the positives from your perspective for your industry.
- 0:53Speaker 2: Well, the strongest thing the sarrus we're concerned, Katie, was
- 0:55Speaker 2: the continuation of investment in the territory. You know, the
- 0:59Speaker 2: strong Structure program that provides long term economic support to
- 1:05Speaker 2: the entire economy but also creates jobs right now. So
- 1:09Speaker 2: that investment was important. I think the other thing that
- 1:11Speaker 2: stood out and that it hasn't really had much coverage
- 1:14Speaker 2: so far, was the commitment by the government to do
- 1:17Speaker 2: a review of land supply, a route and branch review,
- 1:21Speaker 2: to see how we can make sure that we get
- 1:22Speaker 2: more title land into the market as first time buyers
- 1:26Speaker 2: and the buyers look to invest in the territory.
- 1:29Speaker 1: And I suppose I know that there were some people
- 1:31Speaker 1: who had heard that announcement who thought, oh goodness, me,
- 1:34Speaker 1: is this going to see a decrease in the value
- 1:36Speaker 1: of my home and my land. But this is something
- 1:38Speaker 1: that is going to happen over an extended period of time,
- 1:42Speaker 1: isn't it.
- 1:44Speaker 2: Absolutely? And what we're looking to do is to make
- 1:46Speaker 2: sure that we can turn land off at a speed
- 1:49Speaker 2: that reflects the current market. I know people always get
- 1:52Speaker 2: worried about oversupply, but if you were to look around
- 1:54Speaker 2: right now and try and block a land by a
- 1:56Speaker 2: block of land, you'll struggle. There's no surprise in that
- 2:00Speaker 2: had a good run in terms of residential building, but
- 2:03Speaker 2: you do need the supply to match the demand in
- 2:05Speaker 2: the market, or you get spikes and prices and then collapses.
- 2:08Speaker 2: So the review that mister Gout's going to do, I
- 2:11Speaker 2: think is pretty crucial for the territory.
- 2:13Speaker 1: And were there any areas where you felt there's the
- 2:16Speaker 1: budget maybe fell short day, But I think this.
- 2:20Speaker 2: Year, Katie, you know, this is a year for getting
- 2:23Speaker 2: stuff done, and the government can allocate funds, but we
- 2:26Speaker 2: desperately need to start turning some of our strategies and
- 2:29Speaker 2: initiatives into real things on the ground. There's lots of
- 2:33Speaker 2: different projects that have been floating around for many years,
- 2:35Speaker 2: and you and I have spoken about those many times before.
- 2:39Speaker 2: It's not so much about the budget itself. I think
- 2:42Speaker 2: is the budget's the way of spending money. It's really
- 2:45Speaker 2: making that money work for us. And you know, if
- 2:47Speaker 2: I pick an example the you know, the we're coming
- 2:50Speaker 2: up to two years since the government committed to the
- 2:52Speaker 2: ship lift for example, yep, and we yet to get
- 2:55Speaker 2: a ship lift. Now I understand the complexity of that,
- 2:58Speaker 2: but I just used as an example of you know,
- 3:00Speaker 2: we need to get stuff done.
- 3:02Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you, and it's something like you said,
- 3:04Speaker 1: you and I have spoken about that and some of
- 3:06Speaker 1: those delays, and I guess that in action over the years.
- 3:11Speaker 1: I've spoken to Drew Wagner as well, from the Minerals
- 3:13Speaker 1: counsel about it. No one's saying that we need to
- 3:16Speaker 1: sort of, you know, not go through those approvals processes
- 3:19Speaker 1: or not do things in the correct and right way.
- 3:21Speaker 1: But you know, if we don't get things moving, then
- 3:24Speaker 1: we're going to be in the same position a year
- 3:25Speaker 1: down the track and further.
- 3:27Speaker 2: Really absolutely, and you know, I've sat inside projects before
- 3:31Speaker 2: and I know just how difficult they are to get
- 3:34Speaker 2: right across the line with them. But you know, if
- 3:37Speaker 2: we're coming out of a pandemic, if we're investing big,
- 3:39Speaker 2: if we're spending more money than we've got, which is
- 3:41Speaker 2: what a deficit is, then you know, like this is
- 3:45Speaker 2: a year to get stuff done. And I know the
- 3:46Speaker 2: Chief Minister pretty much expressed those views yesterday and that's
- 3:51Speaker 2: probably the truth of the budget. It's not so much
- 3:53Speaker 2: the spending patterns, it's what comes out the other end.
- 3:56Speaker 1: So Dave all in all, would you say that it
- 3:59Speaker 1: was would you get the budget a tick of approval?
- 4:03Speaker 2: Absolutely? You know, I don't have any problems with doing
- 4:05Speaker 2: that at all. I mean, it landed where we pretty
- 4:08Speaker 2: much thought it would, as we've just discussed, though, the
- 4:11Speaker 2: real challenge is not spending, it's getting an outcome.
- 4:15Speaker 1: Well Master Builders nt CEO Dave Malone good to speak
- 4:19Speaker 1: with you this morning.
- 4:20Speaker 2: Thank you, Thanks Katie,