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CHRISTOPHER WALKEN- Cowbells, Lizard Tail & Bologna Taint? · Cosmic Peach

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  Speaker 1: Baby, I'm a gang statue. It takes a little tangle.
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  Speaker 5: Wait, birst could you come in here for a second please?
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  Speaker 5: That was going to be a great track.
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  Speaker 6: Guys, what's the deal?
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  Speaker 7: Are you sure that was sounding okay?
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  Speaker 5: I'll be honest, Fellas, it was sounding great, but I
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  Speaker 5: could have used a little more cow bell. So let's
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  Speaker 5: take it again and Gene really explore the studio space
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  Speaker 5: this time. I mean really, yeah, explore the space.
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  Speaker 2: I like what I'm hearing.
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  Speaker 5: Blow one, two, three, four. Stop, Bruce, I'm sorry. Could
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  Speaker 5: you come back in there please, Fellas? No, we we
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  Speaker 5: just wasted two good tracks. This last one was even
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  Speaker 5: better than the first.
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  Speaker 8: Well, it's just that I find Jeans cowbell playing distracted.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if I'm the only one. I'll shut up.
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  Speaker 5: No, it's pretty rough, you know, I can pull it
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  Speaker 5: back a little if you like not too much, though,
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  Speaker 5: I'm telling you fellas, you're gonna want that cow bell.
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  Speaker 2: From the track.
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  Speaker 5: You know what, It's fine, Let's just do the thing. Hey, roller,
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  Speaker 5: you know that it doesn't work for me. I gotta
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  Speaker 5: have more cow bell.
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  Speaker 9: Don't blow this forest scene.
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  Speaker 4: Could be so selles scene.
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  Speaker 2: Can I just say one things that?
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  Speaker 10: Baby?
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  Speaker 11: Just say it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm staring here, staring at rock lunchend Bruce Dickinson.
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  Speaker 5: The cock can a walk, baby, And if Bruce Dickinson
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  Speaker 5: wants more cow bell, we should probably give him more
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  Speaker 5: cow bell.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, Baby, and Bobby, you are right. I am being selfish,
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  Speaker 2: but the last time I checked, we don't have a
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  Speaker 2: whole lot of songs that feature the cow bell. I
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  Speaker 2: gotta have more cow bell, baby, got.
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  Speaker 12: I'd be doing myself a disservice, But I remember this bad.
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  Speaker 7: If I didn't performed the hell out.
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  Speaker 5: Of this, guess what I got a fever and the
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  Speaker 5: only prescription is more cow bell.
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  Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome back to the show. Got a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of an interesting topic here for us today, But
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  Speaker 1: of course I always say that, and hopefully I'm delivering
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  Speaker 1: on that promise. I was gonna save this topic for
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  Speaker 1: a murder Monday, but gotta leave something for the regular show,
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  Speaker 1: So we're gonna be discussing a little bit of Christopher
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  Speaker 1: Walk in Weirdness today. I saw a couple of the
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  Speaker 1: podcast talking about Christopher Walking, and they weren't necessarily conspiracy
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  Speaker 1: theory podcasts, and they were missing some real gems that
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  Speaker 1: I feel like shouldn't be avoided and definitely need to
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  Speaker 1: be discussed, the big one being what the fuck happened
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  Speaker 1: to Natalie Wood? And if you're not familiar Natalie Wood,
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  Speaker 1: she was a pretty She was kind of Laurel Kenyon
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  Speaker 1: adjacent actor. She ended up being in a movie with
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  Speaker 1: Laurel Canyon Night Warren Baty in a film one of
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  Speaker 1: my favorites of all time, Splendor in the Grass. And
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  Speaker 1: she was pretty big. She was pretty big and died
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  Speaker 1: really mysteriously in the company of Christopher Walking, and nothing
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  Speaker 1: about this story has ever added up. But what I
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  Speaker 1: really want to focus on is the movie Chris her
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  Speaker 1: Walking was working on with her at the time of
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  Speaker 1: her death, because I think we can start putting some
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  Speaker 1: pieces together from there. No shout outs today, so we're
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  Speaker 1: just gonna go tits deep into this topic. If you're ready,
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  Speaker 1: I'm ready. Thanks for being here, Thanks for being listeners
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  Speaker 1: you're new, welcome, and if you're a long time listener,
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  Speaker 1: welcome back. Today we're talking all things Christopher Walking and
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  Speaker 1: what the fuck was going on with the mysterious death
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  Speaker 1: of Natalie Wood. So thirty something years ago, it's time
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  Speaker 1: for a little story. A fantastic movie came out that
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  Speaker 1: starred four Hollywood legends, three of whom were Oscar winners.
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  Speaker 1: It was directed by one of the most important and
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  Speaker 1: influential visual artists in film history, and the plot four
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  Speaker 1: told the invention of virtual reality, decades ahead of its time.
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  Speaker 1: The script was written as a showcase for a new
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  Speaker 1: technology designed to change the way we see movies. One
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  Speaker 1: of the Hollywood legends in this film died before the
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  Speaker 1: movie was finished, a mysterious death, and this ended up
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  Speaker 1: being her last movie. And you've probably never even heard
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  Speaker 1: of it, the actress Natalie Wood. The movie Brainstorm, Yes, Brainstorm.
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  Speaker 1: It had big stars, foretold virtual reality, and the director
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  Speaker 1: was the special effects wizard behind two thousand and one,
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  Speaker 1: a Space Odyssey. So why have we never heard of
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  Speaker 1: this movie? And what happened to Natalie during the filming?
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  Speaker 1: More importantly so during a break from filming Brainstorm, Natalie
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  Speaker 1: Wood died mysteriously while vacationing with her husband, TV star
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  Speaker 1: Robert Wagner and Christopher Walken. You may be familiar with
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  Speaker 1: the case, but if you're not, here's a little breakdown.
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  Speaker 1: In nineteen eighty one, as I said, Natalie was married
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  Speaker 1: to Robert Wagner. Now, the weird thing is, Natalie was
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  Speaker 1: married to Robert Wagner, and she actually ended her first
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  Speaker 1: marriage to Robert Wagner after she walked in on him
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  Speaker 1: in a compromising position quote unquote with their English butler,
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  Speaker 1: David Cavendish. All right, so the compromising position quote unquote
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  Speaker 1: in my mind, I'm taking it as straight humping'. And
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  Speaker 1: later a few years down the road, Natalie and Robert Wagner,
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  Speaker 1: I guess, rekindled and got remarried. So this was their
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  Speaker 1: second marriage to each other. You know, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: how you rekindle anything with a gay man, but apparently,
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  Speaker 1: you know, he must have had something crazy going on
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  Speaker 1: or this was all a setup. Cause you ladies out there,
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  Speaker 1: you wake up This was the story. Anybody can go
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  Speaker 1: and look this up. This is what happened. And she
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  Speaker 1: woke up in the middle of the night, reached for
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  Speaker 1: him on his side of the bed and he wasn't there.
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  Speaker 1: She was like, oh, where's my husband at went and
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  Speaker 1: started looking around in the house, checked the kitchen. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: he was getting a little blooney sandwich. No, he wasn't
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  Speaker 1: getting that kind of baloney sandwich. He was deep throating
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  Speaker 1: their butler's baloney sandwich. And I don't know, ladies, if
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  Speaker 1: you can come back from something like that, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if you can even come back from seeing your
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  Speaker 1: husband doing something like that. Maybe some of you out
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  Speaker 1: there are ended the bisexuals, but.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how they rekindled anything, but apparently they did.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was a setup. But so anyways, late November,
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  Speaker 1: Natalie takes a break from filming again and her and
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  Speaker 1: Robert decided they were gonna go off go out on
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  Speaker 1: the yacht with Christopher walk and hang out just outside
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  Speaker 1: of Catalina Island, gets some R and R and you know,
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  Speaker 1: so they invited Chris along because Natalie apparently was best
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  Speaker 1: these with him. They were getting close over the filming
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  Speaker 1: of Brainstorm, and there is a little speculation that maybe
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  Speaker 1: they got a little too close, if you know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying. But the four of them, including the caretaker
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  Speaker 1: of the yacht, were all out on this beautiful sixty
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  Speaker 1: foot yacht called the Splendor, maybe to do a Splendor
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  Speaker 1: in the Grass, one of Natalie's earlier movies. Not sure.
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  Speaker 1: They were hanging out just outside of Catalina Island and
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  Speaker 1: they were wanting to move the boat. Robert and Natalie
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  Speaker 1: and up getting into a pretty heated argument because Robert
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  Speaker 1: wants to move the boat to a spot closer to
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  Speaker 1: the island at night, but Natalie is deathly afraid of water.
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  Speaker 1: She can't swim, and she's specifically scared of dark water.
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  Speaker 1: She can't stand it deep, dark, murky water. She can't
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  Speaker 1: do it lifelong fear, so she doesn't feel safe or
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  Speaker 1: comfortable moving the boat at night, and she tells Robert basically, no,
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  Speaker 1: I really would prefer if we didn't move the boat
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  Speaker 1: at night, because Hella, We'll got a life long fear
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  Speaker 1: a deep water. So they can't agree, and Dennis, the
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  Speaker 1: caretaker or captain of the yacht, decides to load up
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  Speaker 1: the dinghy boat and he takes Natalie back to shore.
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  Speaker 1: Natalie and Robert have already had a pretty rocky relationship
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  Speaker 1: up to this point, considering the gay walking and all,
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  Speaker 1: and once she Once Natalie gets to shore, she says,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna stay in a hotel tonight, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm leaving Robert. I'm divorcing Robert. I'm over this shit.
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  Speaker 1: He can't even respect me. Ya Da da da da.
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  Speaker 1: And the captain of the yacht, Dennis, he actually decides
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  Speaker 1: to stay with her. Did he stay in the same room,
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  Speaker 1: did he stay in an adjoining room, did he stay
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  Speaker 1: in the same hotel? I don't know. Maybe she just
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  Speaker 1: wanted to get a little strange. It's up for interpretation, Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Apparently he said he was just going to help her out,
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  Speaker 1: help her get off the boat because she was scared,
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  Speaker 1: and help her do whatever she needed to do. I bet,
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  Speaker 1: I bet Dennis just wanted to help her out. But
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  Speaker 1: Robert and Chris actually stayed on the yacht for the
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  Speaker 1: evening alone together. We don't know if it was awkward.
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  Speaker 1: We don't know if it was weird. We don't know
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  Speaker 1: if they said anything to each other. We don't know.
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  Speaker 1: If they argued. We don't know anything about what they
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  Speaker 1: were doing alone on the yacht together that evening. All
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  Speaker 1: we know is that they stayed on the yacht that
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  Speaker 1: night and the next day. This is what unfolded. Natalie
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  Speaker 1: was able to clear her head a little, got some
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  Speaker 1: distance from the situation, decides that she's ready to work
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  Speaker 1: things out with Robert, and she decides to go back
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  Speaker 1: to the yacht. So Dennis sloads up the dinghy boat
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  Speaker 1: again and they head back to the yacht. Throughout the
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  Speaker 1: day on this November twenty eighth, Natalie and Chris were laughing, giggling,
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  Speaker 1: seemingly flirting with each other throughout the day. Everybody was
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  Speaker 1: drinking pretty hard and heavy, and so you would imagine
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  Speaker 1: that spirits were actually pretty high. But that's not the case. Dennis,
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  Speaker 1: the caretaker, the captain. He recalls that Robert was extremely
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  Speaker 1: uncomfortable and annoyed that Natalie was infatuated with Chris. Basically,
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  Speaker 1: in fact, he felt like something might have been going on,
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  Speaker 1: which why does he care. He's got a butler to
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  Speaker 1: go eat his boloney sandwich. But there is an account
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  Speaker 1: from the director of the movie Brainstorm, Douglas Trumbull he
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  Speaker 1: says they didn't really show any signs of physical chemistry
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  Speaker 1: Natalie and Chris, not even during any of the love
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  Speaker 1: scenes in the movie, so he doubts that there was
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  Speaker 1: any sort of an affair or a fling going on,
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  Speaker 1: keeping in mind that both Chris and Natalie are clearly
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  Speaker 1: married and this was just supposed to be like a
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  Speaker 1: friend's trip, but you know, being married when his dad
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  Speaker 1: ever stops you from getting the d But we're not
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  Speaker 1: really sure what was going on between the two of them,
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  Speaker 1: because there's only one left to tell the tale. According
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  Speaker 1: to the caretaker slash Captain, Robert gets so mad because
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  Speaker 1: Chris and Natalie are flirting with each other that he
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  Speaker 1: eventually smashes a wine bottle, smashes it in front of everybody,
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  Speaker 1: and at this point he's screaming in Chris's face and
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  Speaker 1: he's like, what are you doing. You're trying to fuck
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  Speaker 1: my wife? Yaada data. Natalie's embarrassed, naturally, she's pissed off.
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  Speaker 1: She gets up, She goes into her bedroom on the yacht,
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  Speaker 1: and Robert decides to follow her in there, and the
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  Speaker 1: two of them begin arguing intensely. Chris decides that he's
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  Speaker 1: just going to leave the whole situation, and he goes
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  Speaker 1: back to his room on the yacht and basically closes
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  Speaker 1: himself in there and isn't really heard from again for
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  Speaker 1: the rest of the night.
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  Speaker 8: At that moment, Christopher stood up and he went directly
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  Speaker 8: to his stateroom, and that was the last I've seen
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  Speaker 8: him for that whole night.
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  Speaker 1: Dennis the caretaker, claims that he could hear some pretty
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  Speaker 1: intense arguing happening, and it even sounded like there might
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  Speaker 1: have been some physical altercation because he heard a lot
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  Speaker 1: of thumping and banging, and then out of nowhere, it
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  Speaker 1: just stopped night.
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  Speaker 12: Robert Wagner, Natie would Ferosia's fight going on. You turned
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  Speaker 12: up your music so they would not think in your
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  Speaker 12: mind that you were eavesdropping or trying to hear them.
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  Speaker 8: But you did hear them, Yeah, yes I did, and
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  Speaker 8: I kept the music going, but I could I could
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  Speaker 8: still hear the arguing, and then the arguing went on
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  Speaker 8: to the f deck and slater. Everything became silent. So
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  Speaker 8: I thought that maybe they were making up, and maybe
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  Speaker 8: they were going to go to bed and that was
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  Speaker 8: going to be the end of it. So I waited
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  Speaker 8: for a little while and I still had the music on,
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  Speaker 8: and I decided, well, I'm going to go down below
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  Speaker 8: and just I'm going to go to the f deck
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  Speaker 8: and just see if everything's okay. Well, Robert Wagner was
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  Speaker 8: standing there, leaning his back against the back of the boat,
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  Speaker 8: facing the boat, and he said that that Natalie was missing.
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  Speaker 8: And when I go search the boat.
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  Speaker 1: It's at this point Robert informs Dennis that he can't
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  Speaker 1: find Natalie. He has no idea where she is. It's
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  Speaker 1: about twelve fifteen am on November twenty ninth. Robert's saying,
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  Speaker 1: we need to find her. We need to find her.
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  Speaker 1: We need to look for Natalie. And Dennis is like, okay, well,
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  Speaker 1: let's turn on the floodlights and see if we can
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  Speaker 1: see her out in the water. Let's look for let's,
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  Speaker 1: you know, get these lights on. We're going to find her.
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  Speaker 1: And Robert's like, no, no, no, no, no, we're not
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  Speaker 1: gonna do that actually, and Dennis is like, okay, well,
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  Speaker 1: let's call the coast guard. We need the coastguard's help.
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  Speaker 1: If she's not on the boat, we need some backup here.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe she's hurt, maybe she's flung her dumb cut itself
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  Speaker 1: over the railing or something. Maybe there's more going on, Robert,
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  Speaker 1: and we need some help out here. And Robert's like, no,
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  Speaker 1: we're not gonna call the coast guard. In fact, he
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  Speaker 1: doesn't call for any help until one thirty in the morning,
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  Speaker 1: nearly an hour and a half after she went missing.
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  Speaker 1: And it's not until three thirty am that they decide
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  Speaker 1: to let the coast guard know that she is missing
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  Speaker 1: and we really need to ramp up this search here.
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  Speaker 8: Well, I went back to Robert Wagner and said she
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  Speaker 8: was nowhere on the boat. And I said, let's turn
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  Speaker 8: on the search light. We had a very big search light,
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  Speaker 8: and I said, let's turn on the search light to
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  Speaker 8: see if we cannot if we could see her, and
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  Speaker 8: he said, we're not going to do that. He said no,
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  Speaker 8: And I said, well, let's call the let's call the restaurant.
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  Speaker 8: He said, we're not going to do that either. So
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  Speaker 8: we stood there and I was just devastated. I think
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  Speaker 8: I was actually in shock. And Robert Wagner poured me
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  Speaker 8: a drink and it was like it was like torture
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  Speaker 8: that was going on. And after a couple hours, I said,
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  Speaker 8: we have we have to call the restaurant. So we
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  Speaker 8: called the restaurant, and right after that, the people from
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  Speaker 8: the restaurant came out to the boat and they said,
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  Speaker 8: we should call the coastguard. We need to call the coastguard.
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  Speaker 2: It's time we have to call somebody.
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  Speaker 11: She's gone.
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  Speaker 12: And when you didn't make that call for help, it
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  Speaker 12: wasn't for hey, he needs to search the water for her.
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  Speaker 12: He has people in town to search for her in town. Well,
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  Speaker 12: if your wife is missing and the dinghy's missing, I'm
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  Speaker 12: gonna go look for her. I'm gonna find her, especially
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  Speaker 12: in seas like that.
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  Speaker 1: This is beyond suspicious people. And this whole entire time,
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  Speaker 1: where's Christopher walking? Where's Christopher walking? He's allegedly asleep in
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  Speaker 1: his stateroom, but is he Because the dinghy boat was missing,
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  Speaker 1: they assumed that Natalie took this stingy boat and went
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  Speaker 1: back into town, kind of like she did the night prior.
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  Speaker 1: But she's deathly afraid of deep, dark waters. She ain't
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  Speaker 1: taking that shit out on her own.
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  Speaker 12: I've always been terrified, still am of water, dark waters, seawater.
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  Speaker 1: So the likelihood that she would go into that boat
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  Speaker 1: by herself at night, drunk, it's not adding up people.
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  Speaker 1: She wouldn't do it in a nightgown. No less, she
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  Speaker 1: didn't get the mail in a nightgown. If she wanted
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  Speaker 1: to go somewhere, she would ask Dennis ass to take
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  Speaker 1: her somewhere, like she did the night before when she
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  Speaker 1: wanted to go into town. That's his job. That's why
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  Speaker 1: he's there. It's dark out, she's drunk, she's got a
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  Speaker 1: nightgown on. She doesn't like the water, she doesn't know
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  Speaker 1: how to swim. There's no reason for her to get
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  Speaker 1: in that dinghy boat to go any the fuck where.
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  Speaker 1: It didn't make any sense, And the story Robert Wagner
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  Speaker 1: was telling is hogwash dog shit. With Robert delaying and
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  Speaker 1: obstructing this search effort, it's no surprise that Natalie was
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  Speaker 1: never located. It wasn't until seven forty five in the
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  Speaker 1: morning on November twenty ninth that the harbormaster Doug Bombard
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  Speaker 1: spots this red thing floating just south of Blue Cavern
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  Speaker 1: Point on Santa Catalina Island. It's about two hundred yards
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  Speaker 1: from the dinghy boat, and it's about a mile from
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  Speaker 1: the splendor. And unfortunately, that red object bobbing up and
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  Speaker 1: down that Doug saw on the water would be Natalie
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  Speaker 1: Wood's red down jacket keeping her body afloat just off
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  Speaker 1: the coast of Santa Catalina Island. At the time, Chris, Dennis,
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  Speaker 1: and Robert all had matching stories about what could possibly
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  Speaker 1: have happened, but none of them had any information about
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  Speaker 1: what really happened. Chris says he was a fucked to sleep.
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  Speaker 1: Robert says he don't know what the hell happened after
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  Speaker 1: they argued, because he went back to his room and
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  Speaker 1: that's all she wrote.
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  Speaker 7: Got into an argument with Chris because he was saying,
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  Speaker 7: how what a wonderful actress she is. They were doing
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  Speaker 7: film together and that I said, you know, what are
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  Speaker 7: you getting involved with her in her career for? And
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  Speaker 7: one thing that to another, not a physical altercation, but
• 23:06
  Speaker 7: an altercation that took us out on the deck, and
• 23:08
  Speaker 7: I was angry at him. I looked below. I saw
• 23:11
  Speaker 7: Natalie was doing something with her hair. She was gonna
• 23:14
  Speaker 7: go to bed. Chris and I were still talking, we
• 23:15
  Speaker 7: weren't particularly arguing that you know, shot up for a
• 23:18
  Speaker 7: while and when I went down below, she wasn't there.
• 23:21
  Speaker 7: You know, we never heard anything. The dingy was gone.
• 23:23
  Speaker 7: We never heard it start.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: We never heard anything at all, And Dennis says that
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: he doesn't really know what happened because he was basically
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: steering the yacht doing whatever captain caretakers do. So we
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: have no clue what actually happened to Natalie. The only
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: person that knows is Natalie.
• 23:42
  Speaker 12: Or is it information which we felt was substantial enough
• 23:46
  Speaker 12: to make us take another look at this case.
• 23:47
  Speaker 8: I believe that Robert Wagner was with her up until
• 23:50
  Speaker 8: the moment she went.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Into the water.
• 23:52
  Speaker 11: While not a suspect, Robert Wagner is now considered a
• 23:55
  Speaker 11: person of interest.
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  Speaker 2: Well it does.
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  Speaker 12: It actually confers my suspicions even more that what was
• 24:00
  Speaker 12: originally reported isn't exactly what happened.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Her death was initially ruled in accidental drowning, and because
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: of her fear of going into dark water, that seems
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: like the absolute worst way for her to have died.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: Chris and Robert have remained relatively silent about the whole
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: story over the years. Chris actually does an interview where
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: he basically says that Natalie is the only person who
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: can really know what happened that night. He was asleep
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: and has no clue what happened to her must have
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: just been a tragic accident.
• 24:38
  Speaker 11: The untimely death of Natalie Wood during the filming of Brainstorm.
• 24:42
  Speaker 11: Did that make that entire experience painful for you?
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: Oh? Sure? I mean it's on so many in so
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: many ways. It was a talented filming.
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  Speaker 11: Did having a coworker and a friend die change your
• 24:56
  Speaker 11: attitude about living? Christopher?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I suppose you know, confrontation with the sudden absence
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: of somebody you're working with and know, for anybody, you know,
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: it's a bound to make a difference in your life. Yes. Sure.
• 25:13
  Speaker 11: How do you feel about the way the media handled
• 25:17
  Speaker 11: the fact that Natalie Wood did die during the shooting
• 25:20
  Speaker 11: of Brainstorm? How do you think that was dealt with?
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: They handled it, you know, and the only way they could.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: It was a shocking thing. And and I think everything
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: happened that well, you know what was going to happen.
• 25:38
  Speaker 11: Do you think that the real story of Natalie Wood's
• 25:40
  Speaker 11: death has actually come out?
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: The real story of her death is that she drowned,
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: and nobody knows how she drowned or what happened except her.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: That's what it is. There is no real story, you know,
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: there's nobody to know.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Here's the problem, though, Baby the forensics tells the story.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Natalie's body is telling the story. No water was found
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: in her lungs during the autopsy. Bruises, however, were found
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: all over her body. And wouldn't you know the same
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: corner who did Marilyn Monroe is responsible for performing the
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: autopsy on Natalie Wood Thomas Negucci. He says, no water
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: in the lungs, bruises all over the body. Something ain't
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: adding up. The only thing we can draw from this
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: is that Natalie was dead before she hit the fucking water,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: and there were some nearby boaters who heard screams for
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: help in the distance, and we can only imagine those
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: screams were coming from Natalie. But all the while Chris
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: was just sleeping away, just sleeping right through it. There
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: could have been a real coup going on here between Robert,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: Chris and Dennis to get their story straight, because nobody
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: needed to know what really happened. There are many people
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: who have said many disturbing things about Christopher Walking over
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: the years. He's slightly elusive, doesn't own a computer or
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: a cell phone, refuses to possess any type of technology,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: like this. And you know, some people have said that
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: they've seen he has a tail, an alligator tail. Some
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: people say that he likes to sexually assault women by
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: fucking them in the ass and brags about it. And
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: then there's this weird interview with Melgips and take a look.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: The first time I ever did a costing session in
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: America terrified me. Me too, I mean, hell, I came
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: in to meet the guy. They said, oh, he's flying,
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: He's flying in from god knows where.
• 28:10
  Speaker 9: But he didn't need a plane, right.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: He came in, you're doing all that kind of Scorsese stuff.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: And I said, have you had a chance to read
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: the script? And he looked at me and he said
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: do you like my face? And I went yes. And
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: he said, well that's fucking great because if you don't
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: get de Niro, fuck you. I'm out of here, and
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: stood up and walked out and never said, well that
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: I think it was quite a good meeting.
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: No.
• 28:29
  Speaker 9: He came to see me on a rooftop in New York.
• 28:31
  Speaker 9: I said, hey, can I Can I talk to you?
• 28:32
  Speaker 9: And he said sure. He floated in sideways, threw a
• 28:38
  Speaker 9: crowd of people.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: He was wearing black.
• 28:46
  Speaker 9: And It was like one of those old vampire movies
• 28:48
  Speaker 9: where they don't walk but they glide. And he was
• 28:50
  Speaker 9: a dancer, you know, so he has very he's very graceful,
• 28:54
  Speaker 9: and he moved sideways and he just sat down on
• 28:56
  Speaker 9: a chair next to me, and it kind of frightened me.
• 29:01
  Speaker 9: And he's a very smart guy. And we started talking
• 29:04
  Speaker 9: and I didn't, you know, say much of anything about
• 29:07
  Speaker 9: reading the script nothing. I just started talking about the
• 29:09
  Speaker 9: Middle Ages, and he began to talk tortures, and we
• 29:16
  Speaker 9: swapped tortures because I'd read this book on torture, and
• 29:20
  Speaker 9: I tried to recall some of the most heinous things
• 29:22
  Speaker 9: I'd ever read in this book, and he was like,
• 29:24
  Speaker 9: oh oh, and he'd try and top it. And my
• 29:28
  Speaker 9: assistant was there, and he left because he couldn't stand
• 29:30
  Speaker 9: it anymore. The air had turned cold. And then he left,
• 29:34
  Speaker 9: and I wanted to leave, and because I knew that
• 29:39
  Speaker 9: I didn't want to work with him, and he was
• 29:41
  Speaker 9: getting scary. And then I turned around and it was
• 29:45
  Speaker 9: on top of the Peninsula Hotel. I turned around to
• 29:48
  Speaker 9: avoid his steady gaze at one point, and I was
• 29:51
  Speaker 9: looking at a building with the top of the sixes
• 29:53
  Speaker 9: on it. So there was a huge illuminated triple six
• 29:56
  Speaker 9: in red and I went from that to that. He
• 30:00
  Speaker 9: started smiling, and I thought, oh no, Chris Walkin is
• 30:04
  Speaker 9: the Antichrist?
• 30:05
  Speaker 11: You know.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: What is going on with Christopher walking He's like a
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: weird spectral entity that haunts Hollywood. Could Natalie have been
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: some kind of a weird sacrifice? I mean this movie
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: that they had going on here, this brainstorm, all the
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Laurel Canyon connections with her husband and mister beloney balls.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: There's some weird homosexual mob energy going on with this
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: story here. Maybe they pushed Natalie's contest over the boat
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: and they had a threesome. I don't know. Okay, what
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: are your thoughts, feelings, opinions? Is Chris involved? Was it
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: all just Robert? Why do people have such terrifying stories
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: of their encounter with Chris? Is he one of these
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: vampire elite class comeback? Except for you? Give me your thoughts,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: of your feelings, your opinions in the comments section. This
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: is what I got for you today, folks. If you
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: enjoy did this story breakdown? Go ahead and drop Chris Walkins.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: Baloney tank, go ahead and drop Chris Walkins balooney taint
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: in the comments section, and I'll be on the lookout.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: Thanks again for being here today, folks, thanks for listening,
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: Thanks for being supporters of the Cosmic Peach podcast. I
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: love each and every one of you. Take care of
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: yourselves and I will catch you on the next one.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Watch I got here.
• 31:45
  Speaker 6: It was first purchased by your great grandfather during the
• 31:47
  Speaker 6: First World War. Five long years he wore this watch
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: up his ass. I hid this uncomfortable hunkle metal up
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: my ass. Two years after seven years, I'll sell old
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: to my family, and now I'll give the watch to you.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: All lot time jump come.
• 32:21
  Speaker 11: But left gone.
• 32:27
  Speaker 10: Caesars, don't fee the race, but no do the win.
• 32:31
  Speaker 10: The son on the rain, we can be like to
• 32:34
  Speaker 10: come on, baby, don't the baby take my hand, but
• 32:41
  Speaker 10: we'll be able to fly the baby.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: I'm bad.
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  Speaker 10: Love my love
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