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From Here to Paternity · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I almost famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with on our radio.
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  Speaker 2: It's the almost famous podcast. Yes, we are back with
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  Speaker 2: another big week breakdowns and episodes and content. We could
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  Speaker 2: not be more excited to be here. There are so
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  Speaker 2: many amazing things happening in Batchination as we've been talking
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  Speaker 2: about for the last few weeks, and well the headlines
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  Speaker 2: still haven't stopped. So we got great TV, we got
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  Speaker 2: great headlines, and we got the great co host Ashley
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  Speaker 2: here with me today.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you.
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  Speaker 4: I have the great co host Ben Higgins here with me.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I guess we're just great together. Is that what
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  Speaker 2: we'd say? Yeah? Just great together?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we're self describing Ben?
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know you know we're not because I'm describing
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  Speaker 2: you and you're describing me. So that's fine.
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  Speaker 4: Great together? Are you gloud to say that? Yeah? I
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  Speaker 4: guess you are. You know I according to your rules, I.
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  Speaker 2: Think we're together. Actually, I don't know if I could
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  Speaker 2: do this show with anybody else.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think I could do anything.
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  Speaker 3: I could didn't possibly feel like we could have a
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  Speaker 3: healthier communication.
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  Speaker 2: I agree, And then do you work? It's weird. Actually,
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  Speaker 2: I always know like I enjoy working with you. Like,
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  Speaker 2: that's never a secret to me. It's never something that,
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  Speaker 2: uh that, like I forget. I feel very fortunate to
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  Speaker 2: have you as a friend and to have you as
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  Speaker 2: a as a partner in this and as my work
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  Speaker 2: wife and someboday. Sometimes some weeks I talk to more
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  Speaker 2: than my wife because I'm traveling, which isn't healthy for anybody.
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  Speaker 2: But the the thing that, uh that that really kind
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  Speaker 2: of fired me up this week, and I want to
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  Speaker 2: mention this to the listeners because I think it's worth
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  Speaker 2: it is when Katie Thurston, without us asking, without us
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  Speaker 2: pushing her, she she posted right after we did an
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  Speaker 2: interview with her, and it was one of her favorite
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  Speaker 2: interviews ever. If it might not be her favorite.
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  Speaker 4: It was the kindest thing. I was so pleased. I'm
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  Speaker 4: so surprised.
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  Speaker 2: It was just surprising because you know, there wasn't that
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  Speaker 2: push up. Can you post about this? Can you share
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  Speaker 2: about she just did it? And you know what I
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  Speaker 2: thought at that moment, Ashley, I thought, you know what,
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  Speaker 2: I typically when you go on podcasts, especially around this show,
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  Speaker 2: I think people have the concern that the hosts are
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  Speaker 2: just going to try to pull out the headline or
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  Speaker 2: just going to try to dig into the juice and
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  Speaker 2: almost you leave this podcast when you do these interviews
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  Speaker 2: feeling worse about yourself and worse about the situation than
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  Speaker 2: when you hit your name. And I think with Katie,
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  Speaker 2: it just reminded me that, hey, this can be done well,
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  Speaker 2: it can be done respectfully, and you can still get
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  Speaker 2: great juice, Like you can still get it because the
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  Speaker 2: juice is the truth. And if you could just get
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  Speaker 2: the truth out like huge win. And I want to
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  Speaker 2: say thanks to Katie for posting that. And then also
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  Speaker 2: if you haven't listened to an episode about all the
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  Speaker 2: crazy stuff she's up to in life, I mean you
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  Speaker 2: got to go back and listen to it because it
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  Speaker 2: is a good interview with Katie. She does share in
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  Speaker 2: a very vulnerable way how she's walking through this process
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  Speaker 2: of being you know, in Paradise and then also on
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  Speaker 2: f Boy Island.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, she also gave just the best teasers that leave
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  Speaker 4: you wanting to know more.
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  Speaker 3: And I think next week we'll get to know more.
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  Speaker 3: Even though this Paradise episode doesn't really tease her appearance
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  Speaker 3: next week, we.
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  Speaker 4: Will see but it has to be Yeah, I.
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  Speaker 2: Mean I can't wait much longer, Like if she is
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  Speaker 2: actually on the beach, which as.
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  Speaker 4: A cast member.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, then then I want multiple weeks of Katie. I
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  Speaker 2: don't want to one little week of Katie. I know
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  Speaker 2: that's maybe part of her contract.
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  Speaker 3: Who knows, Oh, it could be because she said she
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  Speaker 3: was a good business woman and she knows how to
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  Speaker 3: create a contract that'll work for her.
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  Speaker 2: But good for her. We do have headlines today, so
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  Speaker 2: we're going to dive into them. The first headline I
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  Speaker 2: want to talk to you about is congratulations to Astroid
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  Speaker 2: and Kevin. You know, obviously this is a couple that
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  Speaker 2: met in Paradise and and Kevin have aster gave birth.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, she did be they did not have a baby,
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  Speaker 3: she had the baby, and now they have a baby together.
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  Speaker 2: Number two. This is baby number two for them.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So they actually announced the pregnancy within four weeks of
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  Speaker 3: her being pregnant because it was another IVF experience for
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  Speaker 3: them and they just wanted to be Oh, they've been
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  Speaker 3: open about their IVF journey with their other son, Augie,
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  Speaker 3: and now they wanted to be transparent the entire time
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  Speaker 3: with this pregnancy. It ended up going very wonderfully successfully
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  Speaker 3: and the baby was born on October seventh. Everyone's doing well,
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  Speaker 3: the baby's name is Nash Lochland went and I like
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  Speaker 3: the name Nash Lochland. Yeah, it's very nice. And it
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  Speaker 3: was born just before Canadian Thanksgiving, so it was a
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  Speaker 3: great cozy time. I'm in a time to be grateful,
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  Speaker 3: which they are very.
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  Speaker 2: They're very grateful and we're grateful. Celebrate that well, also
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  Speaker 2: things that celebrate uh tea booth tea Booth celebrates her
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  Speaker 2: bachelorette party in Cabo, and the headline says this, she
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  Speaker 2: was wearing a cheeky black swimsuit, so actually there was
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  Speaker 2: some bachlorination a lums there tell us about it.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, So when they say cheeky, I was like, oh
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  Speaker 3: so like kind of like a thong one of those
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  Speaker 3: black box bottoms like we saw Cat wearing in this
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  Speaker 3: episode in this week.
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  Speaker 4: Oh I don't love I allowed to say that.
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  Speaker 3: I yet it's it's it's one of those black box bikinis.
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  Speaker 3: But that's actually not what they're referring to. On the
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  Speaker 3: bathing suit, it had the phrase same dick forever. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: so like so classic raunchy bachelorette and she was joined
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  Speaker 3: with her bestie who got her on the show, Raving
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  Speaker 3: Gates and Caroline Lunely Loney. How do you say Caroline's
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  Speaker 3: last name? I've always said Loney, Caroline Loney, And they
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  Speaker 3: just had a great time. They poked fun on one
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  Speaker 3: of their Instagram reels about how like how your fiance
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  Speaker 3: is imagining your bachelorette party going on at going on
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  Speaker 3: while he's at home, and like it's all raunchy and sexy,
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  Speaker 3: and then like what reality is and like they're basically
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  Speaker 3: in the hot tub together making like founding fathers hair
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  Speaker 3: styles on each other.
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  Speaker 2: It's uh, I mean that's what you want, right. I
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  Speaker 2: think my bachelor party actually was it time for me
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  Speaker 2: to feel like I was, if anything, made back in
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  Speaker 2: high school again. So I saw high school friends and
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  Speaker 2: college friends and then you know, friends from new seasons
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  Speaker 2: of life as adults. But when you get to that,
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  Speaker 2: it's like it's it's kind of like a golf trip
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  Speaker 2: for me. What golf trips are a little more formal
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  Speaker 2: because usually enough nice place. It's like one of the
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  Speaker 2: only times where you just feel like you and go
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  Speaker 2: back to those days and just be ridiculous. It doesn't
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  Speaker 2: have to be raunchy, it doesn't have to be wild.
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  Speaker 2: It can just be fun to be around your buddies
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  Speaker 2: again doing stupid stuff.
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  Speaker 3: It's so rare in life that we can get friends
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  Speaker 3: together from so many different ads, like chapters of your
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  Speaker 3: life together.
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  Speaker 4: In one room and it's it's amazing. It's the best.
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  Speaker 3: My bachelorette party was something that I didn't necessarily want.
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  Speaker 3: I wasn't like I was not a bachelorette party person
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  Speaker 3: in my head, but then my friends organized it in
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  Speaker 3: the most Ashley fashioned and it was one of the best,
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  Speaker 3: most memorable days.
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  Speaker 2: That's awesome. Well, this is an interesting headline to me
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  Speaker 2: because there's a season of life that Jessica and I
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  Speaker 2: were considering this and and it didn't happen for us,
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  Speaker 2: but it is intriguing. This is the headline why Jojo
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  Speaker 2: Fletcher and Jordan Rodgers are happier after moving to Puerto Rico.
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  Speaker 3: So do you want to talk about you and jess first,
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  Speaker 3: or do you want me to read the headline?
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  Speaker 2: Uh? Well, I think with jess and I, it was
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  Speaker 2: just an interesting idea.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: It's a beautiful place there, you know, it's very accessible
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  Speaker 2: to the US. Uh, it's warm. But they were the
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  Speaker 2: really one of the first people in vaccin nation. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: the only at this point now to make that big
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  Speaker 2: jump to go to Puerto Rico to live in Puerto Rico,
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  Speaker 2: and they do seem to be loving it. It feels
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  Speaker 2: like they've made a great life for themselves down there.
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  Speaker 3: So in this article, the the crux of it is
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  Speaker 3: that they just love that they're able to be outside
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  Speaker 3: all the time round around the year. Their dogs are
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  Speaker 3: able to be outside being active, and they just finished
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  Speaker 3: like there was just an idea to like maybe spend
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  Speaker 3: some time in Puerto Rico, but they decided to remodel,
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  Speaker 3: and finally, after two years, the renovation has finally come
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  Speaker 3: to a close and everything's feeling very set, steady and stable,
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  Speaker 3: like that is their home. So they also keep a
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  Speaker 3: little home in Dallas so that whenever they go to
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  Speaker 3: Dallas to like want to feel different temperatures, you know,
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  Speaker 3: just like have a little fall weak, feel a little cold,
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  Speaker 3: they have that to go to. But yeah, they're like
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  Speaker 3: it's really their main residence now. But my thing is
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  Speaker 3: just with the amount that Jordan travels for football, I
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  Speaker 3: can't imagine the flights because it's not in the continental US.
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  Speaker 3: You're still having at least in like an hour in
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  Speaker 3: the air just to get to you know, America.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how that looks for him, but
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure it had added some complexity. But also with
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  Speaker 2: the house in Dallas, then maybe he can just go
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  Speaker 2: back there, you know, it's a little easy. Yeah, call
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  Speaker 2: that home during the football season. I don't know. You
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  Speaker 2: know what I like about this is they mentioned living
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  Speaker 2: in Colorado. They mentioned when they want to feel a little colder,
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  Speaker 2: they go to Dallas, which, yes, I was.
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  Speaker 4: A little plurplexed, a little perplex.
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  Speaker 3: Are you like to telling us that you just when
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  Speaker 3: you want to feel sixty degrees in November, that maybe
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  Speaker 3: you go to Texas?
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  Speaker 2: That It's ridiculous and Jess would love that if I
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  Speaker 2: was like, hey, let's feel some cold weather. It's good.
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  Speaker 2: Sixty series after the next time one is this. Bachelor
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  Speaker 2: Nation alum and former Bachelor Ari Lendyke says he would
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  Speaker 2: support kids becoming race car drivers. Obviously we know that
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  Speaker 2: that are was a was a race car driver and
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  Speaker 2: a past life. He's no longer doing that, but Ashley,
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  Speaker 2: it does feel like a big deal to look at
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  Speaker 2: your kids and say that you would support that, because
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  Speaker 2: it is a very dangerous sport.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I guess it would be kind of I don't
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  Speaker 3: know as the hippocriticals of the word. But Ari's dad,
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  Speaker 3: he was like the big race car driver in the family.
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  Speaker 3: He won the Indianapolis five hundred and both nineteen ninety
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  Speaker 3: and nineteen ninety seven. Ari saying it's just like in
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  Speaker 3: the blood in the roots. It's also they're also from
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  Speaker 3: the Netherlands and it's a it's a big deal there,
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  Speaker 3: and he says, quote, I've always had a love hate
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  Speaker 3: relationship with my career. Lots of pressure and expectations, but
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  Speaker 3: at the same time, the most incredible experiences came from racing.
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  Speaker 3: It's an amazing adventure if you have the passion to
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  Speaker 3: see it through. If they the kids want to drive,
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  Speaker 3: then I will back them one thousand percent.
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  Speaker 2: Here's the weird thing about Ari. His dad was an
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  Speaker 2: incredible driver, and Ari had had a good career. You know,
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  Speaker 2: he didn't have his dad's career, and that's why why
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  Speaker 2: he says he has a love hate relationship with it. Ari.
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  Speaker 2: Here's the weird thing I was getting to is ariuh
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  Speaker 2: is not a short man, and typically race car drivers
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  Speaker 2: are very short because they're sitting astars like he's.
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  Speaker 4: Would be over Yeah, he's over set.
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  Speaker 2: You just have the body for indy car. You know,
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  Speaker 2: he couldn't crunch up into that thing for hours at
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  Speaker 2: a time like the others could like that. He just
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  Speaker 2: wasn't built for it, and so you know, I get it.
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  Speaker 2: I also want to say this, actually, how cool would
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  Speaker 2: it be to grow up as a kid and know
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  Speaker 2: that your grandfather and your father raced cars for a living. Like,
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  Speaker 2: think about just like how infatuated you would be with them,
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  Speaker 2: and then also the fact that that both of them
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  Speaker 2: have the access to get you on the track. Also
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  Speaker 2: when you, like are old enough to go really fast
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  Speaker 2: and to drive, like you would think they're the coolest people.
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  Speaker 4: Ever for sure.
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  Speaker 3: But now I'm also thinking about how dangerous it is, Like,
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  Speaker 3: how would I want to know Lauren's take on this?
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  Speaker 3: Next time when they're on the podcast, gonna be like,
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  Speaker 3: so is Lauren backing them with one thousand percent on
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  Speaker 3: getting in the driver's seat, because just the thought of
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  Speaker 3: like a kid driving in general on the regular roads
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  Speaker 3: freaks me out.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's a good question. We'll save that for
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  Speaker 2: the next thing they come on, which usually we have
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  Speaker 2: mom once a year. So two headlines here before we
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  Speaker 2: get to our big finale, and we have a big
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  Speaker 2: finale headline today, one that has captured Bachelornation captured really
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  Speaker 2: the general public. People have been intrigued and interested in
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  Speaker 2: this headline following it. And now we kind of have
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  Speaker 2: a conclusion, or at least what we know of as
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  Speaker 2: a conclusion to this story. And so maybe it won't
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  Speaker 2: pop up again, or hopefully it doesn't pop up again.
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  Speaker 2: But before we get to that headline, we do have
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  Speaker 2: kind of two sol them headlines to break down. We've
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  Speaker 2: talked for the last few weeks kind of followed this
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  Speaker 2: Michael A and Daniel Malby story. Originally we kind of
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  Speaker 2: talked about, hey, it seems like they've broken up, and
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  Speaker 2: then a week later, Michael A came out and said, hey,
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  Speaker 2: they efficially had broken up Daniel. Obviously, her follow up
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  Speaker 2: to that was I didn't know he was going to
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  Speaker 2: say this, Like I was. I was thrown off by this,
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  Speaker 2: and and then she came on her podcast and talked
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  Speaker 2: about about it in a little more detail. Well, here's
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  Speaker 2: the headline, Bachelorations. Daniel Malby says, it's okay to cry
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  Speaker 2: on your birthday and this is following to Michael a split.
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  Speaker 2: This headline just feels like a you know, a stab
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  Speaker 2: with the heart.
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  Speaker 4: It's my birthday and I can cry if I want to.
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  Speaker 2: You can cry if you want to, Ashley. You know
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  Speaker 2: a lot of the breakdown of this headline is what
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  Speaker 2: I just kind of talked about. I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: you feel this way, but at this point, I feel
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  Speaker 2: like there's more that she wants to say that she's
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  Speaker 2: not saying. And it's for sure, Okay, that's.
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  Speaker 3: Just put it out there, Danielle, I mean, just trying
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  Speaker 3: to respect the split. Yeah, but like she's dying to
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  Speaker 3: say what happened. I guess she kind of said what happened.
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  Speaker 3: I think the worst part of it was that, like
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  Speaker 3: it was after an egg retrieval that he broke up
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  Speaker 3: with her, and she seemed blindsided because there was just
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  Speaker 3: no signs leading up to it. Such an emotional experience
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  Speaker 3: to be preparing for your future fertility and then for
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  Speaker 3: him to do it so obviously, like it was even
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  Speaker 3: more upset and given the situation that it was done in.
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  Speaker 4: But we need to know.
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  Speaker 3: We don't need to know, obviously, but as a Bachelor podcast,
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  Speaker 3: we're curious to know what was his reasoning, Why did
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  Speaker 3: he perhaps lead her on for a while, why did
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  Speaker 3: he have her move to Cleveland? If there was something
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  Speaker 3: I was there's like an inkling inside him. Is this
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  Speaker 3: bad of me to be curious about? Uh?
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  Speaker 2: No, I think I think it's exactly what happens when
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  Speaker 2: you're in the public spotlight. People are curious about what
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  Speaker 2: happened happened, And I think when you follow it for
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  Speaker 2: a living, you're extra curious because you're you've broke this
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  Speaker 2: down for three weeks, You've talked about it for three weeks,
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  Speaker 2: and it just it just feels like we're never I mean,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm with you, I would love to know. I
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  Speaker 2: don't think we're ever going to get to know, and
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  Speaker 2: I don't think we have to know, but I think
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  Speaker 2: it would be It feels like from the headlines that
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  Speaker 2: continue to pop up week after week of comments made
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  Speaker 2: or things done or interviews done, where it's like she's
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  Speaker 2: getting close to just being like, yeah, this is what happened,
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  Speaker 2: like this is the whole thing, because it just feels
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  Speaker 2: like it's tearing her up. Now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah all right, so this is what she said last
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  Speaker 3: night and this morning, we're tough it's okay to cry
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  Speaker 3: and feel things as they come up. Just a gentle reminder.
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  Speaker 3: Everyone feels things in their own way and time, and
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  Speaker 3: it's okay to cry on your birthday, and it's okay.
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  Speaker 3: Do you remember who you are and everything that you
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  Speaker 3: have to look forward to? Obviously, I think she's getting
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  Speaker 3: emotional on her birthday because the birthday is like a
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  Speaker 3: reminder that you are possibly not where you wanted to
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  Speaker 3: be or not where you expected to be a year
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  Speaker 3: after your last birthday. It's just like a timeline in
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  Speaker 3: your life. I think she's I'm sure you stood thirty eight,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, she's probably just like thirty eight. I
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  Speaker 3: didn't expect to be freshly broken up with and having
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  Speaker 3: just frozen my eggs. I was expecting more of a
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  Speaker 3: who knows a family a family life at that point.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it is an interesting time, worse in both
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  Speaker 2: of them health, and we're both wishing both of them
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  Speaker 2: that they can process through this well. It just feels
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  Speaker 2: like it's maybe a little uglier than what we're getting
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  Speaker 2: from the outside, but it feels like we're starting to
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  Speaker 2: get a pretty good picture of what's going on. Speaking
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  Speaker 2: of breakups, bat doinations Piper James and Brendan seemingly breakup
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: after nearly two years of dating. This is a big headline.
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  Speaker 3: Well, we thought that they'd broken up a while back.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: You and I made mention of it, and then we
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: went into their instagrams we were just chatting. I think
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: we cut it out of the podcast episode because we
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: were like, oh, we're not sure if they're together broken up.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: You know, they've never announced anything, but there's just an
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: absence on their instagram, right, So we assumed because when
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: there's an absence like over six months, seems like these
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: people aren't together anymore. They did move in together in
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: his house in Massachusetts, but then she posted a TikTok
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: on Monday last Monday, October second, which basically confirm that
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: they are no longer together. So there's this trending sound.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: It's two lone Stars two thousand and one hit I'm
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: Already There. So basically the phrase that you use the
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: beginning of it is when they say go to hell,
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: and then you're supposed to say, well, basically, I'm already
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: in it. So instead of saying I'm already in it,
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: she goes when they say to go to hell. But
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: I'm recovering from the whiplash from my last relationship caused me.
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: I'm already there. So she's saying she's.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: Already in hell because her last relationship gave her a whiplash,
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: which really based on the story that they had in Paradise,
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised that that wasn't, you know, the
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: least dramatic break up when it happened.
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: Not to laugh at somebody's.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: Breakup, of course, but like, yeah, it was a fiery relationship.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: It was fiery. Yeah, we did bring that in. And
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: I think now we can officially confirm that we can
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: not expect the two of them to be taking pictures together.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: And I don't think either of them were going to
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: be going to the beach anytime soon, So that might
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: just be two people that need to find love outside
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: this show. Well, Ashley, here's the big headline all this
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: story for weeks, and it has came to a conclusion.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: We now know what we were always wondering, when or
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: if or how we know it. But the Bechler's Clayton
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Eckert reveals results of paternity tests following women's lawsuit.
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  Speaker 4: You do watch his reaction video.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: I did watch his reaction.
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: And did you say, oh, this is cringe.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: I mean people were loving on it, weren't they.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: People were also saying good for you, but also the cringiest.
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: Just manner.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, here's the thing. Yeah, I think it just
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: feels the tone felt weird the whole time.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, he's like so angry and awestle, which obviously,
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: like I've never been in a situation, nor could I be.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: Get why he's made, you know, a setup or if
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: this is somebody going after him. I get why he
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: was mad, but like for I guess for me, I
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: would think that like if I was in that situation,
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: the results, like there would be a relief and then
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: there would be like a song on like response. But
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: he did he it did feel weird.
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: It just felt like he was celebrating a football game victory.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's okay, that's a good point that it felt
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: like he was celebrating a victory, which in a sense
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: it was. I don't know, I've never been there.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: This is what he said quote and I'm gonna just
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: do a little bit of impersonation.
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: Listen, it's Friday, and you know what.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: We need on Friday, We need some good news.
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: Who's got the good news today? What's the good news? Clayton,
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: referring to himself in third person.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: Well, test results came back early and they said there's
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: no fetal DNA present.
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: Let's go, baby. I knew that was gonna happen.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: Thankfully, five months of torture can finally be put to rest.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: I get to relieve. So from his side, I can
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: understand why he was relieved. I can understand why he
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: feels like he can maybe breathe again. I just don't know.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: This whole thing was messy and weird from the very beginning, right,
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Like there's been no process of this where it's made
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: a lot of sense or have got in clarity, Like
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: we still the five months of torture to be speaking of.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: If he had no sexual intercourse and sexual relations and
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: there is no torture.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: I was going to say, Ben, if it was just
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: an oral thing and there was no con there is
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: no spurmy in that area.
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, how would you be even worried? How would you
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: be worried at all?
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: I mean maybe just the public allegations, maybe the headlines,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: maybe the people making you know, jumping to conclusions. Maybe
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: that was destroying him. But other than that, like the
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: piece that you would expect him to feel just waiting
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: for this DNA result. And I think this is where
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: I get confused with the whole thing. I hope both
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: sides now can can move on and move forward. But
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: the original story, and this is where our first reactions
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: came into play, was that he was refusing to take
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: a DNA test like that was originally what was said
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: in the statement, and so I think if he I mean,
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: and this was our first response on the very first
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: time we broke this story, was if he is not
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: the father, and he's so confident, why is he refusing
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: to take a DNA test? Like that would close this
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: whole thing up, right, But the whole reason that the
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: lawsuit was presented was because he was refusing to come
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: enough to and take a test. And so maybe this
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: thing never had to get to where it got if
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: he just would have taken a test.
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: Immediately, Yeah, definitely probably could have.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah why not why not keep it as take it
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: that way?
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: You could keep the whole situation private.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, there's no there's no ground for a
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: lawsuit when you've proven that, hey, I am not the
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: father and so that's where this whole thing got weird.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: And that's when you and I were like, why isn't
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: he taking the test? Is that feels weird? Now he
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: took the test and he's not the father, and I'm like, okay, great, Like,
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: but this could have avoided five months ago. Yeah, I mean,
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: I'm assuming it feels like it is, but like there
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: is still somebody out there who was I mean, I'm
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: assuming looking for the father of her baby, and that.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: Is well, that is really sad and I'm really I'm curious. Again,
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: she said that she hadn't slept with anybody for months
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: besides Clayton. She's a liar obviously, so.
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: Who is it?
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: Who is it? Like, what's going on?
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: How she knows who it is?
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: We just don't know. Like this story again, this story
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: has so many behind the scenes. But that's the part
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: that's like really hard, And I think there's obviously somebody
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: out there that is either hurting or is looking for
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: attention or something. When when they came out these claims
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: against Clayton, and both those scenarios is not okay, Like
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: those both are sad because she's obviously struggling. But then yeah,
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Clayton's reaction was, it's just not what I h I expected.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: When I get on my Instagram that day and I
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: saw his vig, I was like, WHOA, Okay, well this
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: feels a little. This just feels like a lot if
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: I it feels like, yeah, it feels like you want
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: a football game. So wild story, probably the wildest of
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: the summer leading into then the non offseason. This was
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: probably the story that has captured more people than most,
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: even maybe above the Caitlin and Jason break up, even
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: though that was a big story too. Well, this is
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: our headline episode again. We have a huge week of
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: content with a Bachelor breakdown of Bachelor and Paradise and
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: the Golden Bachelor. We're gonna be talking about both of those.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Also some great content for some side off interviews from
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: some past contestants and some current contestants. So make sure
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: you tune in, follow on. We've got a lot coming
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: your way. But until next time, I haven't been.
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: I've been Ashley. See you guys very soon.
• 25:53
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