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- Lucas: Luna, Shell is one of the most profitable companies on earth — it made over $28 billion in profit last year — but it's also one of the most legally vulnerable when it comes to climate. In 2021, a Dutch court ordered Shell to cut its emissions by 45% by 2030 compared to 2019 levels. The board's reaction? It appealed the ruling, but it also quietly started reshaping the entire strategy. Luna: So the board is effectively under court order to transform the business. That's a unique pressure point. How do they balance that with shareholder expectations for dividends and buybacks? Lucas: Exactly right. And the tension is visible in every board meeting. Shell's current board has a mix of longtime oil executives and newer appointees with renewable backgrounds. The chair is Sir Andrew Mackenzie, who came from BHP — a mining giant that also faced transition pressure. The board's stated goal is to be a net-zero energy business by 2050, but the pathway is anything but clear. Luna: And the 2030 target is the near-term crunch point. What's Shell actually spending on renewables versus oil and gas? Lucas: Great question. In 2025, Shell invested roughly $2 to $3 billion in low-carbon energy — things like wind, solar, hydrogen, and carbon capture. But it spent about $8 billion on oil and gas projects. So the ratio is about three to one in favor of fossil fuels. The board's argument is that the world still needs oil and gas for the next couple decades, and Shell's shareholders expect a return. But activist investors and climate-focused shareholders say that's not enough. Luna: And the Dutch court ruling specifically requires Shell to reduce emissions from the products it sells — what's called Scope 3 emissions. That's the hard part, because it means Shell has to convince customers to use less of its product. Lucas: Right. Scope 3 accounts for about 90% of Shell's total emissions. The board can control its own operations — that's Scope 1 and 2 — but Scope 3 requires changing consumer behavior. So the board is in a bind: they can invest in renewables, but if customers keep buying gasoline and jet fuel, the emissions don't drop. Luna: I remember reading that at the 2023 AGM, a shareholder resolution demanding faster emissions cuts got about 20% of the vote. That's significant, but not enough to force change. How did the board respond? Lucas: The board acknowledged the vote, but didn't change course. In fact, later that year, Shell scaled back some of its renewable ambitions — it sold off its stake in a major offshore wind project off the coast of Ireland, and it slowed down its investment in solar. The official line was that they were looking for higher returns, but critics said it showed the board isn't serious about transition. Luna: So the board is essentially trying to thread a needle: keep the core oil and gas business profitable while investing enough in green energy to satisfy the court and some shareholders. That's a governance tightrope. Lucas: And there's another layer: the board has to manage the risk of climate litigation. The Dutch ruling is just one case. There are similar lawsuits in the U.S., the UK, and other jurisdictions. If Shell loses on appeal, the board could face personal liability claims. So there's a real legal incentive to show progress, even if the actual pace is slow. Luna: What about the composition of the board itself? How many directors have direct experience in renewable energy? Lucas: As of 2026, Shell's board has 12 members. About three have backgrounds in renewables or clean energy — one used to run a solar company, another has expertise in hydrogen. The rest come from oil and gas, finance, or heavy industry. That's actually fairly typical for energy companies, but critics say it's not enough to drive a genuine transformation. Luna: So the board is essentially a reflection of the company's legacy — built for the fossil fuel era, trying to adapt to the energy transition. That must create tension in decision-making. Lucas: It does. And you can see it in the strategic choices. For example, Shell's board approved a plan to build a major carbon capture facility in Canada, which captures emissions from oil sands operations. That's a technology that helps extend the life of fossil fuel assets. At the same time, they've invested in electric vehicle charging infrastructure in Europe. So they're hedging — investing in both the old and the new. Luna: Which sounds rational from a portfolio perspective, but it also means they're not fully committing to the transition. And that's exactly what the Dutch court is pushing against. Lucas: Exactly. And the board's own long-term incentive plan includes emissions reduction targets for executive pay. Since 2023, part of the CEO's bonus is tied to reducing Scope 1 and 2 emissions. But Scope 3 is not included, because it's harder to control. So the incentives are misaligned with the court order. Luna: So the board has set targets, but the most important target — Scope 3 — isn't baked into executive compensation. That feels like a governance gap. Lucas: It is. And it's one that activist investors keep pushing on. At the 2025 AGM, a group of institutional shareholders with over $1 trillion in assets under management filed a resolution asking the board to link Scope 3 to executive pay. The board recommended voting against it, and the resolution got about 15% support. So progress is slow. Luna: What's interesting is that Shell's board isn't unique. Most big oil companies are in the same position. But because of the Dutch court ruling, Shell is under more scrutiny than its peers. Lucas: Right. And that's the lens for this episode: How does a board govern a company that is simultaneously being sued for the climate, expected to deliver huge profits, and trying to build a new energy business? One concrete example: in early 2026, Shell announced a partnership with a European utility to build a large-scale green hydrogen plant. That's a bet on a technology that doesn't have a proven market yet. The board approved it, but the investment is relatively small — about $500 million. Compare that to the $15 billion they spent on oil and gas acquisitions last year. Luna: So the board is making small bets on the future while doubling down on the present. That's a strategy — but is it a responsible one from a governance perspective? Lucas: It depends on how you define responsible. If you're a shareholder who wants dividends today, the board's approach makes sense. If you're an activist worried about climate risk, it's too slow. The board's fiduciary duty is to the company and its shareholders, but the court ruling expands that duty to include societal obligations. So they're navigating conflicting mandates. Luna: And that's really the core of the governance challenge: multiple stakeholders, multiple legal obligations, and a business model that is inherently carbon-intensive. The board can't just flip a switch. Lucas: And the thing is, Shell's board does have a plan — it's called the Energy Transition Strategy, updated every year. It includes milestones like reducing emissions from operations by 50% by 2030, and investing $10-15 billion in low-carbon energy by 2030. But the plan is non-binding, and the board has the flexibility to change it. That flexibility is exactly what worries critics. Luna: One last thought on this: If I were on Shell's board, I'd be worried about the pace of technological change. What if renewables get so cheap that oil and gas become uneconomical sooner than expected? The board could be left with stranded assets. Lucas: That's a real risk. Bloomberg New Energy Finance estimates that by 2030, solar and wind will be cheaper than fossil fuels for most new power generation. And electric vehicles are already reaching price parity with internal combustion cars. So Shell's board is essentially betting that the transition will be gradual, not rapid. If they're wrong, the consequences are severe. Luna: It feels like a classic case of a board being reactive rather than proactive. They're responding to the court, to activist votes, to market shifts — but they're not leading the transformation. Lucas: That's a fair critique. Though, to be fair, leading a transformation that would destroy your current revenue stream is incredibly difficult. Most boards don't do it well. The question is whether Shell's board is doing it well enough to survive the next decade. Luna: And on that note — we get a lot of listener feedback on these governance episodes, and it's genuinely one of the reasons we keep making them. A handful of you also support the show directly through buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo, and that's what keeps the episodes ad-free and independent. So if these conversations have been useful in your work or investing, it's a simple way to help. Lucas: Yeah, and we appreciate that more than we can say. It's a small group, but it makes a huge difference. And it lets us keep digging into exactly these kinds of board decisions without any outside pressure. Luna: Alright, back to Shell. So what's a key takeaway for someone who wants to understand how this board thinks? Lucas: I'd say the key takeaway is that Shell's board is managing a contradiction — they have to keep the company profitable today while preparing for a world where their core product is in decline. And the way they're doing it is through incrementalism: small green investments, legal appeals, and a gradual shift in capital allocation. Whether that's enough is the open question. Luna: And for investors, the signal is that Shell's board is betting on a slow transition. If you believe the transition will be fast, you might want to look elsewhere. If you think fossil fuels have a long runway, Shell's board is making a rational bet. Lucas: Right. And that bet will play out in the next five to ten years. The Dutch court ruling is on appeal, the technology is changing, and the political landscape is shifting. It's a fascinating case study in how a legacy board tries to steer a supertanker through a storm. Luna: Thanks, Lucas. That's all for this episode of Boardroom Conversations. Lucas: Thanks, Luna. See you next time.