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NFL Wild Card Reaction: Buffalo Bills Easiest Path To Super Bowl? + Philadelphia Eagles Collapse · Bussin' With The Boys

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  Speaker 1: All right, welcome to another episode of Busts with the Boys.
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  Speaker 1: It's our football weekend recap. We're breaking down the NFL playoffs.
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  Speaker 1: Steelers and the Houston Texans, but we'll talk about all
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  Speaker 1: the storylines coming out of the weekend. Josh Allen, Josh
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  Speaker 1: a dogfight. We had an incredible slate of games. Greg
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  Speaker 1: Olsen is going to be joining us. It's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: a lot of fun. We're gonna be talking momentum, situational awarenes,
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  Speaker 1: it off. We'll get Greg os Olsen on the horn
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  Speaker 1: and we will be talking some football.
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  Speaker 2: Greg, Baby, how are you?
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  Speaker 3: What up?
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  Speaker 2: How about there?
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  Speaker 3: I love more than midgame tweets from Will.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, you gotta start tweet and back.
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  Speaker 3: There's nothing I love more than the mid game tweets
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  Speaker 3: and texts from you guys.
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  Speaker 1: I love. Oh.
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  Speaker 3: I mean to find somewhere the sun right now, I
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  Speaker 3: have my shades down humble brag, my automatic shades, and
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  Speaker 3: I'm getting blasted by the sun right and I don't
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  Speaker 3: know where to stand.
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  Speaker 2: Bring out the color in your head. Take it, take
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  Speaker 2: a few minutes, Do whatever you gotta do. Yeah, that's
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  Speaker 2: hold on I'm right here. Hold on, what what game
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  Speaker 2: did you call while we're waiting for you to figure
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  Speaker 2: out your life?
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  Speaker 3: I call I called panthers, Uh, panthers, I called panthers rams.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, dude, It's like I sit there and
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  Speaker 1: I even try and time it up to when Greg
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  Speaker 1: might might check his phone, because the thing too is like.
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  Speaker 3: I check my phone during my game.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. When we're on ESPN with Rolofsky, like every break,
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  Speaker 2: he immediately goes to his phone. Then you go in
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  Speaker 2: after after the show and you're on Twitter, cut oft
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  Speaker 2: his surfing and you see he's been tweeting back at
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people, and I think that would be
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  Speaker 2: a great bag to add to your game. It's like,
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  Speaker 2: oh damn, Greg, He's he's so beautiful. You know. Greg's
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  Speaker 2: got a different process, Breg. Yeah, Greg is a no
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  Speaker 2: nonsense process guy. Greg's a guy that hated social media
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  Speaker 2: and he's like that is so lame. You guys shouldn't
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  Speaker 2: be doing that, like focus on ball. And now he's
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  Speaker 2: found himself in a world where like I kind of
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  Speaker 2: have to and I hate it. Am I wrong by
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  Speaker 2: saying that?
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  Speaker 1: No?
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  Speaker 3: I mean I I I definitely am involved in social
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  Speaker 3: media during the week. I try to social media is
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  Speaker 3: how I keep up with news, trends, pop culture, just
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  Speaker 3: everyday life entertainment. So like, I'm I don't engage on
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  Speaker 3: social media consistently, but I view it, I consume it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not a great in I don't create a lot
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  Speaker 3: of social media content, but I do absorb a lot
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  Speaker 3: of it and find a lot of it amusing, stupid, funny,
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  Speaker 3: you know everything in between. But uh yeah, the last
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  Speaker 3: thing you can do during a game, in my opinion
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  Speaker 3: maybe some guys do is like worry about what's being
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  Speaker 3: said on Twitter, or what people's critiques are, or what
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  Speaker 3: people say is good bad momentum, you know all that.
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  Speaker 3: So I mean, I obviously see the tweets after the games,
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  Speaker 3: and I have people that now like send them to me,
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  Speaker 3: which is the way I get a lot of my storylines.
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  Speaker 3: Is now people are in on the in on the
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  Speaker 3: kind of joke and h and send it to me.
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  Speaker 3: But I I the idea of like reacting to social
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  Speaker 3: media during the game blows my mind.
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  Speaker 1: Dude, because I feel like the worst thing too, And
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  Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong, Greg, But say you were
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  Speaker 1: just to like scan your phone and it might even
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  Speaker 1: just be it could just be text messages.
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  Speaker 2: But if you get.
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  Speaker 1: Something that is like maybe either egregious or abrasive or
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  Speaker 1: about something called, then you're like, think that's like.
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  Speaker 2: On your mind.
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  Speaker 1: Then when you were about to go that cold makes
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  Speaker 1: sense you're about to go back on TV, you might not, like,
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  Speaker 1: you might not even be thinking about it as a
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  Speaker 1: reason why you don't. But I'm just you know, I'm
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  Speaker 1: just spitballing because I'm like, I'm trying to time it
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  Speaker 1: up when you might go to commercial and I might
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  Speaker 1: have like something.
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  Speaker 2: With momentum, momentum. Hey, you got to talk about momentum.
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  Speaker 3: Hey the Brams had all the momentum when that game
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  Speaker 3: started to dude, Yeah, all it's crazy though, It's just,
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  Speaker 3: you know, you guys have really opened my eyes to
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  Speaker 3: not only the idea of momentum and how important it is,
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  Speaker 3: but for something that's so important and that everybody is
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  Speaker 3: just so desperately trying to grab onto, it's just amazing
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  Speaker 3: to me how it's so ever fleeting. Yeah, that's the part,
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  Speaker 3: you know, for something so important that everyone's trying to capture,
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  Speaker 3: nobody can actually maintain it. That's that's the part of
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  Speaker 3: it that I find so funny.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, momentum is the golden snitch. Like you're not
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  Speaker 2: just gonna get that thing all the time. Always like
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  Speaker 2: eventually like someone's getting closer to the snitch than the
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  Speaker 2: other person and it's just a back and forth, and
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  Speaker 2: whoever grabs the most momentum at the end of the game,
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  Speaker 2: they are the winners. I was listening to I can't
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  Speaker 2: remember what game was, if you you know what it
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  Speaker 2: was right after the game last night, the forty nine
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  Speaker 2: Ers game forty nine Ers Eagles, and it was just
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  Speaker 2: three people sitting at the desk in the middle. Guy
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  Speaker 2: he was a coach for these Steelers for a long
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  Speaker 2: time and count Yeah, Bill Coward. He's sitting there and
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  Speaker 2: he literally is just speaking on the idea of momentum
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  Speaker 2: and how it's not a quantifiable asset that you can
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  Speaker 2: possibly have, but it's so real. It is real. And
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  Speaker 2: he was like, if you listen to you speak about
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  Speaker 2: how momentum is like so not a thing of the
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  Speaker 2: beat of a pop Guess he's like, I got approve,
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  Speaker 2: Like I truly thought he was like sub speaking to
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  Speaker 2: you on national Maybe.
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  Speaker 3: He's a huge fan of busting with the Boys. Maybe
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  Speaker 3: he just loves the Monday Maybe he just loves the
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  Speaker 3: Monday recap. Yeah, you know, listen, I'm not I'm not
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  Speaker 3: anti it. I'm not I'm not closed minded. You know.
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  Speaker 3: I think we watched a whole weekend of football where
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  Speaker 3: at any moment in time, if we pressed pause, one
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  Speaker 3: team had all the momentum and that was so critical
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  Speaker 3: to their future success. And then within two to four
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  Speaker 3: plays or at most of possession or two somehow that
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  Speaker 3: momentum that was so critical to grab onto somehow the
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  Speaker 3: other team got it and it I don't know it.
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  Speaker 2: Just I don't know it.
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  Speaker 3: Just it's just to me, so it just feels lazy.
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  Speaker 3: It just feels like I don't know what else to say.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm just gonna fill this in with this non
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  Speaker 3: No one can tell me I'm wrong. No one can
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  Speaker 3: prove to me I'm wrong. But in no world can
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  Speaker 3: I prove that it's right.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: But you just again, there's moments where you have the
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  Speaker 1: momentum and then boom, you can lose it bam, like
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  Speaker 1: Carolina gets in that game, they don't get back in
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  Speaker 1: the game. Or if the Rams continue to build a
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  Speaker 1: momentum and the ball just doesn't hit Pooka in the
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  Speaker 1: head or hands.
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  Speaker 3: Like.
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  Speaker 2: Pookah, who could drop the ball. Pooka's notss to dropped
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  Speaker 2: the ball. He's mad because he hurt the momentum.
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  Speaker 1: You flew too close to the sun. You flew too
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  Speaker 1: close to the sun. There's this fine balance of having
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  Speaker 1: the juice. It's like when Drake May they do that
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  Speaker 1: little speed option and he bumps it on the D,
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  Speaker 1: N and D and falls forward. He goes up to
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  Speaker 1: get a first down, like this juice comes in your body, like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I'm playing with the I'm starting to feel it. I'm
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  Speaker 1: playing with this different level of swag. But you can't
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  Speaker 1: fly too close to the sun, get over your skis
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  Speaker 1: and think everything's a cakewalk. You still got to execuse
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  Speaker 1: and then the moment you have a lapse, a lapse,
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  Speaker 1: and it can happen like that momentum gone.
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  Speaker 2: That's the thing, man, Think about all the practices, the
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  Speaker 2: games that you've played in your life. When you walk
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  Speaker 2: out and you're like, bro, I really can't miss today.
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  Speaker 2: That's momentum. And as when you start, you start bawling
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  Speaker 2: out a little bit, and all of a sudden you're
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  Speaker 2: like I'm feeling myself. Oh yo, you see Gregor, you
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  Speaker 2: see him on that outside block right there. Oh my,
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  Speaker 2: he just caught a nice little thing, took a little
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  Speaker 2: farther bay. He's feeling himself. He's feeling himself. Then all
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  Speaker 2: of a sudden, through the hands. That's how you kill momentum. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you had momentum and got killed.
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  Speaker 1: Or maybe Greg, you as a coach, you got a
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  Speaker 1: couple plays that you would like to get to. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: in the right situation or circumstances, your players out there,
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  Speaker 1: they start creating this momentum to where you're now loosening
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  Speaker 1: up a little bit as a head coach, and you're like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm dropping this play on him, and then that play
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  Speaker 1: works and you're thinking, hey, I'm kind of in my
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  Speaker 1: bag right now. Versus if you didn't have momentum, then
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  Speaker 1: maybe your own feeling is like, Okay, maybe I don't
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  Speaker 1: go to this play right now. I'm getting a little more.
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  Speaker 1: I'm getting a little bit more in the box. I'm
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  Speaker 1: kind of handcuffing myself a little bit. But you get
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  Speaker 1: to free yourselves from the cuffs whenever you start sparking
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of momentum, right does that makes sense.
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  Speaker 3: Jaguars, Jaguars, that's that's so. I mean the Jaguars had
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  Speaker 3: won what seven straight six straight ish when they finished
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  Speaker 3: the season six six.
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  Speaker 2: And I think they it was.
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  Speaker 3: It felt like they had all the momentum. Yeah, obviously
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  Speaker 3: didn't play out well.
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  Speaker 2: No, No, that that's that's that. I love that you
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  Speaker 2: brought that up playoffootball eight game winning streak, right, it's
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  Speaker 2: a reset, like you can start.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, hold, guys, I need I'm gonna like I
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  Speaker 3: got to write like a board of all the rules.
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  Speaker 2: And we need to do that. We'll hit that in
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  Speaker 2: the off season for you for shit project, like mid April.
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  Speaker 2: We'll have a breakdown of like this is how momentum works.
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  Speaker 2: Where're gonna have a full Q and A. But if
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  Speaker 2: you go in the playoffs your eight game winning streak,
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  Speaker 2: that's a great momentum start to have. But just like
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  Speaker 2: the movie f One, like you're starting in different places now,
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  Speaker 2: so you might start at the front of the pack
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  Speaker 2: with your momentum, but it all depends on how you
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  Speaker 2: drive that game. Now. I believe the Jaguars were running
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  Speaker 2: at like six point one yards per for carry, but
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  Speaker 2: they were tote in the Rock pretty nice, and they
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  Speaker 2: got a little pass happy. Liam Colem, as great of
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  Speaker 2: a coach as he has been the entire year, might
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  Speaker 2: have hurt his team's momentum because Trevor Lawrence himself wasn't
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  Speaker 2: having a momentous day. Does that make sense? Can we
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  Speaker 2: feel good about that?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean it sounds like it sounds like that's
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  Speaker 3: the answer to all of this. When you don't, when
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  Speaker 3: you're unhappy with the results, it's because you didn't capture
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  Speaker 3: or you lost said momentum. And when you do have
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  Speaker 3: momentary success, the reason for it is that momentary momentum.
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  Speaker 3: But if it could lose, you could lose it at
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  Speaker 3: any moment. Yeah, it's you know, it's Yeah. I guess
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  Speaker 3: I'm starting to really learn how just utterly ridiculous it
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  Speaker 3: all sounds.
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  Speaker 2: Momentum is not the listen.
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  Speaker 3: I believe guys have confidence. I believe athletes feel more
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  Speaker 3: confident than others. We've talked about that. I feel there's
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  Speaker 3: a mentality that built through processes and routine. And yes,
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  Speaker 3: I believe good practice matters. I believe good practice habits matter.
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  Speaker 3: I believe building out your pregame like I believe all
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  Speaker 3: those things from a comfort level put players in a
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  Speaker 3: better or worse spot to go out and have success.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not saying at an individual level these feelings are
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  Speaker 3: not real. They certainly are. I've experienced those same moments
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  Speaker 3: of doubt and fear and holy shit, I've forgotten how
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  Speaker 3: to catch the ball. I hope he doesn't throw it
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  Speaker 3: to me, and in other games where I'm like, he
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  Speaker 3: could throw it at my ass and I'd catch it,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I can catch it with
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  Speaker 3: one hand behind my back.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because you've got some jews got momentum.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm not going to sit here and say that
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  Speaker 3: there's this like big collective universe of this energy that
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  Speaker 3: no one can sense called momentum that is somehow coming
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  Speaker 3: and going and losing and great. I don't know. I
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  Speaker 3: don't catch a ball, drop a ball, make a block,
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  Speaker 3: miss a block, catch a ball, drop a ball. But
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  Speaker 3: every time people talk about momentum, it switches sides three
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  Speaker 3: thousand times a moment, and everyone's trying to capture this
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  Speaker 3: arbitrary thing, but they haven't quite figured out how to
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  Speaker 3: hold onto it.
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  Speaker 2: Greg, do you have a best friend. Yeah, when you're
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  Speaker 2: around your best friend, do you feel like a man,
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  Speaker 2: I'm so stoked to be around my boy right now.
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  Speaker 3: That's how I feel when I'm on the show.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, great, so all right, well you probably won't get
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  Speaker 2: this in this show. But let's say you're with your
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  Speaker 2: boy and you see him and then you walk away
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  Speaker 2: and you're like, man, my boy didn't really feel like
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  Speaker 2: my boy, did it? He kind of felt like he
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  Speaker 2: was a little off. Something was a little different about
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  Speaker 2: my boy. You felt that before, like everyone? Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: So individually that's called energy. You take eleven energies and
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  Speaker 2: then another eleven energies. That's one collective energy, and that's
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  Speaker 2: that is essentially the nucleus of momentum. So when you're
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  Speaker 2: feeling everyone's got their different energy, their confidence says, hey,
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  Speaker 2: I hope he doesn't throw the ball at me. That's
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  Speaker 2: someone's energy that they're vibrating at a lower frequency. And then
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  Speaker 2: there's the greg Olsen that you can throw it in
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  Speaker 2: my ass. I'm gonna catchit a time. That's a higher frequency.
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  Speaker 2: Now we're looking at right, and then collectively, as a unit,
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  Speaker 2: there's a percentage point that goes up. So based on
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  Speaker 2: all the guys, you could be writing at seventy percent energy,
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  Speaker 2: eighty percent energy, but you don't want to get too high.
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  Speaker 2: So just like the universe, you can you can kind
• 13:12
  Speaker 2: of take out for people that aren't religious. Hey, instead
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  Speaker 2: of saying God, let's say universe and all the things
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  Speaker 2: are the same. You can basically do that with energy
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  Speaker 2: and momentum the same way. Am I am I off
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  Speaker 2: kilter in that.
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  Speaker 1: You're saying a little something right there, something you agree
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  Speaker 1: with or something a little something that like, oh, something
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  Speaker 1: that I buy because I believe in momentum. I think
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  Speaker 1: where we get stuck because everybody's sitting there listening comments
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  Speaker 1: and so this has just been at debate shown momentum.
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  Speaker 1: I think we all understand and correct me if I'm wrong, Greg,
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  Speaker 1: But momentum is arm in arm with execution. Oh, Like
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  Speaker 1: I know from my seat that I sit in I
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  Speaker 1: believe in momentum. I also believe in execution. So I
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  Speaker 1: buy into again the messages we go back and forth on.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm acceptive or accepting and receptive to the
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  Speaker 1: messages that you bring on bust with the boys. When
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  Speaker 1: teaching football, I feel like you're in a spot to
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  Speaker 1: where you're not necessarily wanting to accept momentum because momentum
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  Speaker 1: is there whether you want to believe it or not.
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  Speaker 2: I'll give you an example.
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  Speaker 1: So listen, we got New Year's resolutions going on, We
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  Speaker 1: got we got account of bill of buddy systems that
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  Speaker 1: haven't taken place day in and day out because we're
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  Speaker 1: not building each and every day. We're not stacking days.
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  Speaker 1: When you have an off there you miss a work out.
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  Speaker 1: Let's say you want to get a sweat in twenty
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  Speaker 1: minutes every day, you're six days into it. In the
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  Speaker 1: seventh day, you kind of something happens to have.
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  Speaker 2: Not gotten a sweat in.
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  Speaker 1: And the conversation I will have with myself is I'm
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  Speaker 1: not stacking consistency, like I'm killing my own momentum because
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  Speaker 1: now I'm in my head thinking I'm going to have
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  Speaker 1: to restart or reset because it comes down to executing
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  Speaker 1: and building on that momentum. So momentum execution are arm
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  Speaker 1: in ARM I accept the execution. I accept some of
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  Speaker 1: the analytics football talk that we have. I get that, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I need to buy in or I want to buy
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  Speaker 1: into this because it does make sense to me. But
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  Speaker 1: you're not going to tell me there's no such thing
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  Speaker 1: as momentum, because we all believe, we all feel it
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  Speaker 1: when we get a little juice, we capture a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of energy.
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm not debating that there's times where you feel
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: you have all the energy. I'm just asking why then
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: so quickly does it.
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: Flip when you miss an extra point and you can't be.
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: Able to why if if you had all the momentum,
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: why did you miss the extra point? Because because he
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: all the energy, why Pooka dropped the ball? If you
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: had all the energy, why when it was fourteen nothing,
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: wasn't it twenty eight nothing? That's why when you have
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: it's just such a it's just so silly.
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but look, look, look this is where they didn't execute.
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: You watched those games over the last two days and thought,
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: oh my god, the team that's in control, and they
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: just skated on the games flipped the thousand times the
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: games went back and forth. I threw Drake May through
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: an interception on the first drive of the game. Oh
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: my god, he's MVP. Hes done. He stinks. Matthew Stafford
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: couldn't complete a pass in the third cour order. All
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: the momentum was gone. The pat Stafford can't complete a pass.
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: He's the worst performance of the season, and in the
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: fourth quarter he didn't throw it in completion, So it
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: just I don't know, like when did he have it,
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: When did he lose it? Who took it? Did he
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: lose it in the lock? No one can ever say
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: they just throw out The team that's doing well is
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: only doing well because they have the momentum. It's just nonsense.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: They've been executing, executing because.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: You're executing, they're playing well. The right guard didn't jump
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: off sides, I didn't miss the slide call. The receiver
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: didn't run his route deep enough. For it's football, there's
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: a thousand things that can go wrong. I think to
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: just blanket statement when it goes right, they've got the
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: momentum and that's why it's going right, and then when
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: there's something that goes wrong, it's just because they've arbitrary
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: given the momentum back, as opposed to saying why are
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: they Why is their past game struggling? Why is their
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: defensive Why is JC Horn and Mike Jackson and playing
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: so well? What are the coverages that they're using? What
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: are they doing up front? Are they blitzing more than
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: they normally do like, that's my take on it. We
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: all just sat there and just said, man, this team's
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: got all the momentum. They're doing great. We wouldn't need
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: to analyze the game. We would just throw out these
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: cliche you know that really came out to establish the
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: run today, Like what.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: What that's a good take. That's a good take.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: No, it's just lazy. In my opinion, it's lazy. Now
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: I'm not I certainly don't have all the answers. This
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: is just one man's opinion of doing my job of
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: trying to present context of a football game that's very
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: complicated and very complex and a thousand different layers of
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: physical and mental and emotional individuals.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: That are there.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: I mean, you guys know it. There's a thousand things.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: I think they just put this blanket label on the
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: good and bad times related to a word that nobody
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: can define as just lazy.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: But you can feel it, Greg, Yeah you yo?
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: Were you not when the Panthers threw that touchdown? Buddy,
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: I was sitting in that stadium. Bank of America Stadium
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: hadn't been like that in ten years. That place was
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: rocking there with seventy eight thousand the scoreboards lighting, there's
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: a laser show. Jalen Cooker's in the back corner. Bryce
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: Young's getting helped up by the official. They just took
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: the lead. They had all the momentum, and then Matthew
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: Stafford went touchdown and then they lost.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Dude, it's like it's like you said, it's fleeting. It
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: can happen. It's a the audience, the destiny.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: If we're going to fulfill the destiny of this, the
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: audience that loves the child, that loves to listen in
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: and listen to Greg Olsen, come on and hear us
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: talk backing for the momentum, the destiny, if we're going
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: to fulfill it. It's just Greg acknowledging that momentum is real.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: You just said it. How the stadium it hadn't been
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: like that in ten years. You're watching it happen the juice.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying it didn't exist. I'm just saying people
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: need to know.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: Hey, the momentum we're feeling in this place right now, Joe,
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: do you see it?
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: Can you see there isn't an ass on an empty seat?
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: Put your hand out, Joe.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: You can literally touch the momentum right now.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: And the audience of this show is gonna just come
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: up like Leonie on DiCaprio, like there he is, Briggs,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: he's he's he's understanding what the audience feels from there
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: at I'm watching this game and being like, oh man,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: do you.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: Feel this momentimum it felt it?
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Oh snap, it went the other way. Yeah, we felt
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: it in the booth.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: I just want to know why. Why And thirty seconds later,
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: after the kickoff that.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: Left Matthew Stafford Matthew Stafford.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: I guess we're gonnash it.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: We're gonna snatch the soul from these right. This is
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: this is Pokemon, this is a dragon ball Z. This
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: is you. You've gathered your individuals to help you, and
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: if you just have a Matthew Stafford on the other side,
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: it's like that guy at any moment can take your
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: momentum and he can shove it up your ass.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: That's what I can do and I got. And the
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: best part about this is I have you, guys and
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: all of your trusted listeners pointing it out to me
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: multiple times a game, and for that I feel like
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: we've won.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Do you have not one?
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: We we have no winners and losers.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: It hasn't been successful until Greg Olsen is on a
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: broadcast and even just goes. A lot of people right
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: now are probably thinking to themselves, there's a lot of
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: momentum taking place. I just need you to mention momentum
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: and then we can take the next step.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: And if for.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: God's sake, if you don't do anything else and just
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: look at our text messages at a commercial break, you'll
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: know the right time. Don't look at Twitter. People are
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: haters on Twitter.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Hey, take it our group chat and I'll even call
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: him bus on that because here was a no show
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: last week on this show right after the weekend, the
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: word we laid out the formula of here, here's when
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: you ject momentum to the conversation when the patriots going.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: I gave you dude, told you, hey, this is about
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: us right now talking about Greg not showing up on
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: the show after he had the perfect opportunities of momentum
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: in a group chat that you displayed perfectly, and we.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Said it on the show like, here's what's gonna happen, yep,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: when New England scores and you're gonna talk about this
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: loss to the Buffalo Bills. The best thing ever happened
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: to this team whatever I said, and then we laid
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: it out in the group chat. Hey, here's the quote
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: that you're gonna hit Joe with if when the Patriots
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: go of seven to nothing. And it was right there
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: to the point to where I believe. And I was
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: taking my daughter to a birthday party and I'm telling her, no, sweetheart,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: we can't listen to the Frozen soundtrack. Daddad has to
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: listen to this game right now? Do. I had it
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: cranked up the drive after. I'm waiting to hear when's
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: Greggie boy going to talk about everything we laid on
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: the game plan? When is he going to execute all
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: the things that he preaches? We are right there right
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: and it never got missed.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: And dude, I'm literally going outside. It's dusk and I'm
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: going to do get the chickens and get the eggs
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: and feed them for the night time. And my dad
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: texts me and says, Greg Olsen is crushing this call
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: right now, ever since you've had him on the show.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: And I see the fun you guys have.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: I have.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: I love walk listening to Greg Olsen call show. And
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: my only text back did he mention momentum My only
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: text back to him. Did he mention momentum and Mike
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: to break mine? He had to break mine on me.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: This show lost on me, This show lost all of
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: its momentum when he decided not to execute.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: That's fair, that's fair.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Exactly, that's not me.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: I got a whole year. I don't broadcast again until September.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: I'm done, boys, what do you? We're done? Divisional round?
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: It just goes to the four A crews.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Oh, Greg, that's bullshit, dude, you're an A C. You're
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: an A crew.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: You're well that means a lot coming from you, guys,
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: but I appreciate it greatly. But yeah, we're uh, we're done, man.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm like, today's like my exit meeting, and
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: instead of doing my exit meeting with I'm doing my
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: exit meeting with you guys.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: This is the egg meet. And honestly, if you want
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: to break it down, you have such great insight on
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: the game. You do great job technically both on the
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: offense and the defensive side of the ball. If there
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: is room to improve, allow the audience to be a
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: part of your broadcast by mentioning momentum.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the audience as a whole understands the energy and
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: momentum shifts because Buddy speak to them a little.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: There is going to be a rocket ship of momentum
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: that takes off and explodes in the atmosphere the minute
• 23:28
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  Speaker 1: all right, enough, I do have one question, A real question,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: will before because I know everybody probably like when when
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: we start talking about these football A real question, as
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: you're like getting in, is this something that's just contractually
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: laid out and you know, no matter what, at all times,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: the last game is going to be called divisional round
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: or is there a feeling or a sense that it
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: might that there could be an opportunity or potential for
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: you to call a game beyond the divisional rounds.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: No, it's all it's all pre set, you know. So
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: whenever they went to the you know like Super wild
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: Card where there's uh, you know what is it six games? Yeah,
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: so the way the way the TV deal goes well
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: this year, so it was you know, the main A
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: crews go Fox, CBS, NBC, ESPN, and Amazon so Prime
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: so those five and then there's an extra game. So
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: this year, the the in the broadcast deal, it kind
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: of rotates. You know, CBS might their beat their second
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: crew might have gotten a game in years past, I
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: want to say last year like Peacock had a game.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: So this year the six slots of wild Card where
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: the five regular networks, four networks and one streamer, and
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: then Fox had the second the sixth game, like the
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: Fox had the sixth game. So that's the way it worked.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: But then when it goes to the divisional round, it
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: just goes to CBS, NBC, Fox, and ESPN. So it
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: just goes to the four main So there's no there's
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: nothing you can do. It's not there's no momentum you
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: can build and then lose and then build it back
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: and then lose it again. Yeah, it's just clearcut. You know,
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: we got the wild card this year and uh, and
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: that'll be it. So he's known this all year.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Is there a momentum that takes place in the offseason
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: to where you are looked at as the A crew
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: for next year? Or is that is that all? Is
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: that already kind of figured out contractually?
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah? All these contracts are multi years, So you know,
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: Tom's obviously under contract for eight more years with Fox,
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: you know, so it and then you know Romo's under contract,
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: and Aikman and Collinsworth, Herbstreet and then obviously all the crews.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: Really the only networks that have like second, third, four, fifth,
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: you know, down the line of multiple crews or Fox
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: and CBS just because you know, we're the two networks
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: that broadcast the full slate of games every Sunday. But yeah,
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: all those all those contras no different than playing all
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: those contracts. Our multi year deals are laid out into
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: the future and pretty clear kind of what crew you're
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: on in those.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: How much longer do you have with Fox?
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: My contract runs out next year, So I got the
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty six seasons, my last contractual season as of now.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: Will we talked with this too? I know he's a
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: guy in two years. Oh, that's right, that's right, Yeah,
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: that's right, that's right.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Momentum, Am I allowed to ask going into your next deal?
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: You're looking you'd be looking for. I need to be
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: part of an a team. Am I allowed to ask that?
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: You can ask? You can ask me.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: You're can to ask me anything you want. This is
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: the trust tree. Okay, Yeah, you know I've been pretty
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: I've been very open and honest about all of that.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: You know, I love doing this. I love talking ball,
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: I love analyzing the game. I love calling the games.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: It's something now. I just finished my fifth season doing it,
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: and I really enjoy it.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: I've called playoff games and Super Bowl and you know,
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: some really cool moments. And my plan is to do
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: this for as long as people will have me and
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: don't kick me out. You know, the reality about this
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: world is there's only a couple of those top jobs,
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: right each each network has one, and there's only really
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: five network slash streamers that are in the game as
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: of now, so you know, those seats don't become open
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: very often, so you kind of it's really just a
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: waiting game and buying your time and just try to
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: no different as a player. You just try to do
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: as good of a job as you can in the
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: job that you have at the moment, and you just
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: hope over time people see it and believe in it
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: and appreciate it, and some do, some don't. But you
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: need one person that really likes the way you do
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: it and feels that you can be an asset. And
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: there's also a big timing element of that are you available?
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: Is this seat available? So for right now, I'm really
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: happy doing what I'm doing calling games. I've got a
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: great crew. We call some really cool moments obviously, playoff
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: games and whatnot. So I'll uh, you know the rest
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: of that. There's really just like a an element of
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: you just got to see how the market opens up.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: There's a lot that you can do.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: If hypothetically, since we're playing the trust Tree game, let's
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: just say like a Netflix got like a slate of
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: games like they are now a part of that group
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: of CBS, Fox, ESPN all that, and they're like, hey,
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: we need an a list crew for a game, and
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: you're an exclusivity deal with CBS, would you humor the
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: idea of the again, let me ask it in a
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: way that you can actually answer. Would there be a
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: buyout that kind of takes place, if they were to
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: buy you out and go to like Netflix, or how
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: would that work if hypothetically there's an option for you
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: to be an A list guy.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so certainly you would entertain those and have to
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: dive deeper into what exactly the role is and the
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: slate of games and you know, so it's easy to
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: label something as an A job, a B job, a
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: C job, but you really have to just get a
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: framework of what games are you broadcast, and what's the platform,
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: what are the days, how many of them? Compensation? You know,
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: there's there's like anything, there's elements to the job that
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: make some more and less some more appealing and some
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: less appealing. If those A level jobs come up, you
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: have those conversations. Fox has been really clear and open
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: and very positive with me about like they want to
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: see me get a job right like kind of it's
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: like every head coach that has that really good coordinator,
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: you know, if that coordinator at some point one day
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: earns the opportunity to be a head coach. Those head
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: coaches say, you know, the good head coaches say, we
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: want to create an environment that we can showcase you
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: and get you to the level that you wish to go.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: And that's how Fox has been to me, both publicly
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: and behind closed doors. So I've been appreciative of that.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: And if those opportunities present themselves, you know, for obviously
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: you explore it no different than you would in any
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: other industry.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: I love that all right now, talking football, I just
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: want to know real quick, how long do you want
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: to do this before? How long do you want to
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: do this?
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: Is it until retirement? Troy noons, He says, you're doing
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: it forever. I want to know what you think.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: Troy, Yeah. I mean my plan right now is you know,
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: I'll be forty one in March, so I'm relatively young
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: in the TV world. I might be younger than Will.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: Well, how old are you, I'm thirty six. To relax,
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: I'm thirty four. I'm old.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: I'm an old podcaster. I'm a relatively young TV analyst.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: I guess you know, I don't know if I have
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: like a set number. Am I going to do this
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: when I'm seventy. Probably not, but I don't see any
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: time soon that this is not something that I continue
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: to pursue and continue to do because I love it.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: It's fun, It keeps me in aged in the game.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: I've learned probably more in the last five years than
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: I did in fourteen years of playing. The conversations, the
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: access who you get to talk to, picking the brains
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: of some of the best football minds in the league.
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: I've learned and stolen information from people way smarter than me.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: And I think that's being able to identify who those
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: people are and what pieces of what nuggets they're giving
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: you that are really good, I think is the key
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: to success in a lot of ways. And that access
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: that we get as TV analysts has been really fun
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: in that regard.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: I love that. I do love it as well.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: Don't don't steal stuff on the internet. They people people
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: people gate keep a lot on the internet.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: They do.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So, Greg, in your opinion the games you've watched,
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: because we still have Houston and Pittsburgh to night, which
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: team do you feel like have has.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: The most momentum coming out of the wildcard weekend. It's
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: a great question. It's a great question.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: It's a great it's a great question, you know. I
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: think you know what's so hard other than last night's game,
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: which felt like, probably beginning of the fourth quarter, it
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: felt like the Patriots had all the momentum and they
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: weren't going to give it back. Yep, I feel like
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: that's so outside of the Patriots, who I felt like
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: won that game handily. I had no point, and I
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: think the Chargers were going to score a touchdown, let
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: alone two touchdowns to come back. That their offense really struggled,
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: and the Patriots defense was awesome. Your boy for abel
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: his plan on defense, the way he handled those end
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: of game drives over the two minute warning, with the
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: substitutions and slow playing and dreaming clock, and he really
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: handled the end of the game. I thought he should
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: have went for two to make it fourteen. But outside
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: of that, I thought he really handled the end of
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: game really well, draining that clock on that last possession
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: of the Chargers. The other games were so close, right, Like,
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: I think you can make an argument that we could
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: have the Panthers and Philly and the Packers could just
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: as just as likely to be playing next weekend as
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: the teams who won so I'm not sure if there's
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: a clear cut favorite right now. I think Seattle's sitting
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: pretty good, sitting there a week rested, with teams coming
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: to them after having the buy. I think the Rams,
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: probably for a non divisional team, probably have the best path.
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: I think they'd much rather go play Chicago coming off
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: that win against the Packers, then go play a rested
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: division rival in Seattle that they, you know, have had
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: two big games against already. So I would say probably
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: the Rams have the best path to the NFC Championship.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: The Rams and the Seahawks would be my bet. Although
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: every time we count out forty nine Ers and McCaffrey
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: and Shanahan, every time we say they have nobody left
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: and they have nobody worth the shit our boy, we
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: got pour one out for our boy. Yeah, bros, so hard, heartbreaking.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: I hate it for him. I tried facet timing them
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: this morning. He didn't answer. I get it, you know,
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: do I see Seattle San Francisco going to Seattle and
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: beating them decimated? No, but we've also canceled, you know,
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: called it, you know, counted them out the entire season,
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: So I guess anything's possible. But uh, that was a
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: really bad answer. But I don't. I don't think there
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: is a favorite I would I guess if I had
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: to say, it'd be the team that didn't play, and
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: it would be Seattle.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: See momentum if you're just looking at it from a
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: strictly momentum standpoint, strictly hard to not look at the
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: Chicago Bears and go that team's got a lot of
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: momentum right now based on yeah, based on their second
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: half being down one.
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: What if there's a decline because there's like an emotional letdown, Like,
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: how do you quantify that?
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Very very real, very real? And like momentum is not
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: a foundational piece. It's something you gain after, just like
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: putting down your foundation as a team. And the Bears,
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: as exciting as they are and how much momentum they
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: do have, they are a team that needs momentum in
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: order to continue their playoff run. Like, dude, have we
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: seen a better throw in recent years? In that fourth
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: and eight by Caleb Mills. I mean, that was the
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: most incredible throw I've personally ever watched a live and
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: been like, oh my god, this kid is absolutely amazing.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: And then to go the next play and have his
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: feet set, perfect pocket presence, ball high and tight, and
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: deliver a ball that sales away from him. It's like, man,
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: if he can just when it's when the pocket's clean
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: and you're just stepping into your throw like a normal quarterback.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: If you can, if you can acquire that skill, he
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: will be the most dangerous quarterback in the NFL.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: I can teach that. I can't teach the first one.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: You can't teach that that. That's incredible what he did
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: and he put it perfectly where it needed to go.
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: But the work on his footwork in the pocket in
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: the off season, no doubt. You can spend all your
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: life and that throw he made to his left off
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: the ground both feet, dropping it over his own defender
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: into the on the biggest play of the season. There's
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: two guys in the league that can do that, maybe one.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then literally he hit the Jordan logo while
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: throwing a ball like it was like it was up.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: It was perfect, Like, dude, it's I have become.
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: Sneaky, sneaky. Highlight play of the weekend I don't think
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: enough people are talking about was McCaffrey's catch on the
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: reverse pass.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: I didn't see that.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: The catch, you're saying, sneaky athletic, the way he caught it.
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: I think that catching any And you know, we're spending
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: so much time on Jwan Jennings in the throw and
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: the play call, and rightfully so the catch that McCaffery.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: Anyone who's ever tracked the ball over their head knows
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: that the ball that lands on your backside ear is
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: the hardest catching football because it's like the Willie Mays, right,
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: it's like behind your helmet. Then you factor in that
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: ball is thrown by a receiver forty yards down the
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: field on a rope in thirty five million hour wins. Yeah,
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: that ball in the air probably moved six yards.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: And for a running back, now, I know he's unique,
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: but for a running back to track and catch that
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: ball in that moment, I think people just looked at
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: it as like, oh my god, what a throw, what
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: a play? Yes there, that catch is so ridiculously hard,
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: and I don't think people have an appreciation for how
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: hard that was that catch, the Caleb Williams throw. We
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: saw some plays this weekend Colby Parkinson's catch to win
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: the game. We saw some individual plays that are like
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: the difficulty level is like through the roof.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: Jaw dropping, because even on McCaffrey's catch too, there's that
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: there's that split second of being in a blind spot
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: where you're kind of throwing your hands at it.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and the hardest catching it's the hardest catching football.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, CMC is unreal. Staying on the uh, the
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: Packers Bears game. Did you see the stat that came
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: out with you know, in their two games, like how
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: many points the Bears scored in the first half. It
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: was a total of six collectively in their two games.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: And then the second half is like sixty eight second
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: half in overtime. Yeah, sixty eight points. I mean the
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: fact that the Packers were up twenty one to three
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: and then you go back, you know, when they did
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: take the lead and miss that extra point. It was
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: funny because we were You said, like a momentum. You
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: said something, and I replied under your tweet like packers
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: got all the Packers got the momentum right now, And
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: then I was like, wait, they just missed the extra point,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: missing two field goals as well, like a collective seven
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: points they left on the field.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: Just should have just taken the points though.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, brutal way.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, take the point, tried to take the points. I
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: just don't know why the points. They didn't get that point.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: No, I know, but a brutal way, crazy, a brutal
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: way to go out for the Packers.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And it's just I think they're also the
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: point differential for the fourth quarter this year, Like in
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: the first half it was it's, you know, minus something,
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: and then the fourth quarter throughout the the totality of
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: the year, it's like plus one twenty two. Yeah, like
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: it they are if they could just figure out a
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: way to do that the whole game, the whole game. Yeah,
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: but they're they're they're they're too momentum based. There are
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: too momentum based. Bear.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: I thought that call to by Ben Johnson on the
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: last touchdown where they come in they go tackle over,
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: so the tackle is set to is this the.
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: No?
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: Was it was it?
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: It was like the it was the pump screen in
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: the fringe area, Yeah, to Loveland to where they have
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: the tackle over because they they did.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: It earlier in the game to where they have more moran. Yeah,
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: I thought that. Yeah, I thought it was a receiver. Yeah,
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: threw like bubble.
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: They threw like balanced bubble balance was wide open for
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: a touchdowns because earlier.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: In the game they set it up like as you
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: guys know, they get the bubble or they get the
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: screen out on the perimeter, tackle screaming out there, they
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: go tackle over to get big Boy even closer, and
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: then they throw, they fake the perimeter and then go
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: up the field to score a touchdown. I thought that
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: play call was was incredible. Ye, based on the way
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: that play. It's the same play that took place in
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: the Bills Jaguars game when they did like a bubble
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: scream and I think it was knocks. He went to
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: fake block and as the guy bit he just ran
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: up and it.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: Was right there for a touchdown. Yeah, dude, it's some
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: of that matters. Coaching does matter.
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: Look at the four teams left in the NFC. I
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: mean look at I mean look at just look at
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: who they are. McVeigh, Shanahan, Ben Johnson, Mike McDonald.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: The best, the four best.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: Coaching matters, quarterback matters, play calling matters. It just matters.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah. What staying on the Bears, Loveland, he has had
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: I think after a week six, like.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: He's really good.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: He's incredible. I would love to hear like your personal
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: breakdown of Colston Loveland as a tight end.
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: I'm glad you asked so. I've always thought there's two
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: camps of NFL tight ends. And this is not a
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: knock on anybody. This is just the reality of the position.
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: There's two camps in the tight end world. The first
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: camp is well, not easy by any means. The first
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: camp is you are going to be the product of
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: your system in the fact that play action you're gonna
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: catch a lot of like slam flats on bootlegs. You're
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: gonna catch play action shallow drags and crossers, and I'm
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: just gonna scheme you open a couple checkdowns in the
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: passing game on third down, and next thing you know,
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: you look up at the scoreboard and you got like
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: four or five catches. I always looked around the league
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: and said, there's probably thirty guys in the league that
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: could have had those catches. There's nothing unique about your
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: route running. There's nothing unique about your separation skills, your leverage,
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: your chopping. There's nothing really unique other than you were
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: in that position and the play dictates you getting the ball.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: The next level of guys right, the Kelsey's and the Kittles,
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: and you know Rock Bowers and now this next generation
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: Colston Lovelands, et cetera, et cetera. They then can go
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: above and beyond and they can be flexed out wide
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: like Colston Loveland and run like a fade, comeback to
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: the front corner on a defensive back for a critical
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: play on the left, on the front left corner of
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: the end zone. He can run separation sail routes and
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: pull away from safeties and track the ball in space
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: like Those are the guys that you want to find,
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: because yes, they'll catch a couple flats, they'll catch a
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: couple easy checks, a couple otbs. Those are trust me,
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: they all count. I caught a million of them. Can
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: you go above and beyond the play call? And when
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: it's just hey, you got this route and it's not
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: the perfect look and you got the wrong leverage of
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: the defender, can you flip that leverage? Can you separate?
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: How do you get in and out of the brakes?
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: How do you high point contested catches? Can you make
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: the plays that aren't just schemed open for you? Those
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: are the guys that are the top tier dudes, and
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: that that's Colson Lovelin. I thought that coming out of
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: college when they drafted them. Now we can make an
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: argument whether you draft a tight end ten or you know,
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: is it too high too low? But the bottom line
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: is the dude's stud and there's a handful of guys
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: in the league that can play both elements of NFL
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: tight end, and of all the young guys, he's one
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: of the.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: Few when you alluded to it. But the the fake fade,
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: come back to the pylon, that was the two point play? Correct?
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the milk milk the milk check. Yeah, So which
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: is a milk on milk crime? Milk on milk crime,
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: that's heavy cream. Yeah, that's not any Yeah, it wasn't
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: fun to watch. But the minute that Chicago lines up
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: for a two point play and they're all condensed, you know,
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: big formation, they're in like jumbo package whatever, and they
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: break out into you know, whether it's an empty look
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: or three by one, whatever it was, and they broke
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: out and I saw thirty one, which people are saying
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: that was his only defensive play of the season. White guy,
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: White guy Guy thirty one jogs out there and I
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: see closon Loveland and when it breaks out, I was
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: sitting on my couch upstairs my bonus room, and I
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: just I set up on my couch and I just go,
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: oh no, because you know thirty one is also in Hell. Yeah,
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: thirty ones also in Hell, but nobody from the inside
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: is also starting to fade out there. Like usually when
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: you have some of those situations and maybe you're in
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: Cover one and man or rat and you're gonna have
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: a guy, whether it's steal somebody derneath whatever it is,
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: some safeties, you might be sitting out there like I've
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: been in those situations of where hey, if it breaks down,
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: you get this look the Deshaun Golston or Dante Whitner
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: look over, you know when game playing, like Hey, if
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: this happens, I'm gonna I'm going to I'm going to
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: lean towards your side to help you out. When I
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: saw that wasn't taking place in the Green Bay Secondary
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: and this dude was on his own, I was like, Oh,
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: this is a milk check right here. My boy's gonna
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: get got, and he got got, and I hated.
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: Every team should get in, every team should get an
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: additional timeout when random white guy, it gets caught and covered.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: Here's what I'll say that.
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: Here's what I'll say that. That's so fair when I
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: first when I first came in the league. Maybe you
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: guys too, I think there were rules about that that
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: don't apply anymore, right like there were when we came
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: into the league. I'll never forget like there wasn't many.
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: But if there was a white guy in the secondary,
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: chances are you were going to go after him. But
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: I think the Cooper de Jeans of the world and those,
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: I think maybe those days are changing, right, Cooper Dejene
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: first team All Pro or maybe first or second team
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: All Pro, Like, you're not targeting that dude? What was
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: the other thing? Riley mossive ends?
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: What's that I said?
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: So maybe those maybe those rules don't necessarily apply like
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: they did years ago. Think of what every you know, Taylor,
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: you know every defensive end, every white defensive end earlier
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: in your career. What was the scouting report?
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: Uh, gritty, hard working effort guy. He's not going to stop.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: So you got to stand on the whole time. This
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: guy he'll move right, he's.
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: Not going to run by you. Not gonna win with Yeah,
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: I don't know if that's necessarily the case anymore. Right,
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: You've had Hutchinson and you got Bosa, and you got
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: all these freaking dudes that are defying that old school adage.
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: So I don't know. I think I think we're moving
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: past uh slowly, very very slowly.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: Or we're still we're still in the process to where
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: there's an exception to the rule, but the real universally
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: still getting close.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: And well again, when I saw thirty one go out there,
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: I sat up and I was like, oh, no, it's over. Yeah,
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: it's over. And Greg, basically what you're saying is what
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: we've been saying for the last couple of years, is
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: we might be up. White boys were kind of making
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: a comeback in the secondary, and that's that's a massive.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: They would have had to have thirty one, would have
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: had to have made it very competitive for Loveland to
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: catch that football.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: But it's to be like, we're seeing a good competitive
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: But as we've already identified, that's a heavy cream play. Yeah,
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: that's that's yeah.
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a white on white there. That's a tough matchup.
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: But the point is there's very few tight ends in
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: the league that are going to go out and run
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: like I call those like he's running real routes. Right,
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: there's a difference between running routes and running real routes.
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: And that was a real route, and multiple times throughout
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: the game he's running real routes. He's tracking the ball
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: twenty plus yards down the field in the air, downfield
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: passing game like that is there's a difference. Not all
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: catches are the same, they get counted the same, but
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: anyone who watches it and knows it, they're not all
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: equal in difficulty and equal in ability and what you
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: need to be able to do. And oh, buddy, he's
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: a he's a stud.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: Now, buddy, it's like you know, you're you're in the
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: milk section at the grocery store. There's a difference between
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: our granted gat grass fed whole milk and the two
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: percent or the skim milk by Prayer Farm sitting at
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: the end. Yeah, there's just there's levels too, There's there's
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: definite levels.
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm not just saying he's good for a white guy.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, but listen, right, we know
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: we all know what it's like.
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: When did you see when the culture comes down? Show?
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: Well, what do you what do you do?
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: You never saw his Rocky Town show?
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: No?
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: What happened?
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: Did you ever see Aiden Hutchinson? Do Michael Jackson?
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: Yes, no, you're saying that. Do you see it? Yeah?
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: Someny idea what I'm talking about?
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: Hutch out there dancing on every commercial he's on.
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: So, yeah, hutch So we got to start evaluating these
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: guys like the first they should at the combine. They
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: should have these guys get up and say like, all right,
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: you just got drafted, get up in front of the
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: team room and show me. Because Hutchinson was awesome. I
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: think he did, like Billy Jean great, turned out to
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: be a great player. Colson Lovelin saying some I can't
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: remember off the top of my head. It was excellent,
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: like standing ovation excellent. So I think the signs were
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: there early that he was going to be a good player.
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: We've all all three of us have been in a
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: moment where it's whether it's college or high school. For me,
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: it was college. When you come up the culture comes
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: up to you and be like, hey, you're pretty X,
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: Y and Z for a white guy forty nine ers
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: in the Eagles, Man, I feel like this the Eagles
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: is a perfect segment for our uh our tastes of
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: the offseason, cause the Eagles have had ups and downs
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: all year and there's always been this. They'll get it
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: figured out. They'll get it, don't worry. They have so
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: much talent on their roster. Look at their defense and
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: how great they are. They got two number ones at
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: wide receiver. They got Saquon Barkley, Thatt Dallas Goddard in
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: the back, who's a top five tight end, top ten
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: at the very least. And then they fumble the back
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: against a team that loses jor which Kittle Early Williams
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: is playing injured. They have a bunch of guys just
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: riddled with injuries and they fall. Is it finally time
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: that we can just sit there and admit, hey, there
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: was an issue taking place behind closed doors with the Eagles.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: We'll all start with you.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: You already know my stats. I don't got to admit nothing.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: I sat there as bad as box. And there's a
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: reason that every time I came out with the top
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: five in the AFC and top five in the NFC,
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: the Eagles barely sniffed it because it was always gonna
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: be one and done in my head, it was always
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: like they have an elite defense, so Fangio and what
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: they do defensively, you know they're going to be in games.
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: And that went.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: It was sitting there, the group chats were firing up
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: and everything else to where Orlowski was like massive drive
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: for this group chat. Because Jalen Hurts had the ball
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: as a two minute drive, they were in position to
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: go down there and win this game. But all year long,
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: you've seen what's come out of that camp as far
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: as what's going on internally and everything else, to where
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: you knew there were things going on offensively to where
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: this team ain't built to win Super Bowl this year.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: They had an incredible year last year. They have a
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: lot of great talent on that roster even this year,
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: like they're going to be fine in the future. But
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: I feel like you're really you're able to dial in
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: more of whether it's offensive creativity. There's so many things
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: that went on offensively for the Philadelphia Eagles that the
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: optimism is it's more glaring than ever because it's not like,
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: oh what about when we beat the Rams, Oh what
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: about when we beat the Buccaneers, And oh what about
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: when we beat all these good teams that they did
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: beat in the regular season. But I feel like anybody
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: who's who was diving in which I feel like a
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: lot of us were. But it was hard to just
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: say this team is a pig with lipstick, this team
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: is everything else, because again, they were continuing to win
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: games in the NFC East, which wasn't a very good
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: division this year. But the fact that they did go
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: one and done against a Niners team who's been ridden
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: with injuries and you lose kittle early and you're kind
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: of like it was a tight game. It's like, are
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: they gonna come out of this and survive this game?
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: But the fact that they did lose it, it was
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: one of those things like, yeah, this riding was on
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: the wall basically all your life long. We just had
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: to kind of sit in the pocket because they were
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: again they were coming out with double with wins, with
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: w's in the win column, and even though it was
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: happening through field goal blocks and everything else, like they're
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: a very good roster and a very good football team,
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: but it was it was like I'm sitting there, you know,
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: at the end of the game. I was kind of
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: sitting there with a smile, on my face like clumps,
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: like I'm surprised you're being so nice to me this
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: morning with the Eagles losing. I'm like, bro, it was
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: like it's it was more of like we knew this
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: was coming. It was going to be, just when was
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: it going to happen? Was it going to be in
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: the first game of the playoffs when if they had
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: home games and kind of had like maybe an easier
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: stretch get to the championship game. But in no part
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: of my mind that I think this team was going
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: to be built to win a Super Bowl this year.
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I think it's well said. I don't debate,
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: I don't push back on anything you just said. I
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: The only thing I would add is I've said probably
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: on the show a hundred times, and I'm like, I
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: do believe you never give up on talent to some regard, right,
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: because when you look at that roster and you factor
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: in that of the twenty two, the dichotomy of the
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: two teams, everything San Francisco has been through, and the
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: guys that are sitting up in suites and sitting in
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: the press box and standing on the sideline of street
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: clothes that are like Marquee star players. And then when
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: you look at Philadelphia, only Lane Johnson, twenty one of
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: their twenty two first game Week one starters were healthy,
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: ready to rock in that lineup, like that was the healthiest,
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: arguably the best, you know, one of the top two
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: or three rosters in the league. And for the most part,
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: their top line guys were all there, with the exception
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: of Lane. So there's no question that's an underachievement, right,
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: There's no question that getting knocked out by a team
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: at you know, losing a game at home, a team
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: San Francisco. Albeit they still got Purty, they still got McCaffrey,
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: they got you know, two of the best coaches in
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: the league in Shanahan and and Solos. I mean, they
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: still got stars. But that team is decimated. That defense
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: that they played against, that they couldn't score in the
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: second half against, was playing guys that weren't on the
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: team three weeks ago. I mean, they're down to like
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: linebacker five, six, you know what. Like, it's remarkable what
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: San Francisco was gonna do. And at the same time,
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: there's no question it's under achievement. There's gonna be change,
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: It's not gonna be Sirianni, and I don't I agree
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: that he's he should not go. I mean, he's won
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: more than maybe anybody in history.
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a starter to me.
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a non starter to me. But they'll be
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: they'll be staff changes for sure, especially on offense.
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The the a lot of things that are getting
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: me by surprise is people calling for Laflour's.
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: Job right now, and and yeah, that's so stupid.
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's wild to even go
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: down that road. And uh, who was it? Coward? He
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: he brought up a great point. It's like Packers fans
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: don't understand, like the last thirty years, you've had Brett
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: Farv and Aaron Rodgers, and you've got two Super Bowls
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: and then one and one other appearance. You've been in
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: the Super Bowl three times in those thirty years, and
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: you're calling for his head already like they had injuries.
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: You can make it all. Michael Parsons plays in that game.
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: And it's I just think that trying to get crazy.
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: So to that point, let me ask you guys this,
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: say today Lafleur was let go, who becomes immediately the
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: number one coaching candidate in this hiring.
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: Cycle immediately one. It's tough because Harball Harbo is also
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: in there. So it's so you don't think it's close.
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: No, No, I think it's I'm not arguing that it's
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: not close. I think John Harbo is a phenomenal coach.
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: I'm not debating that. You know how I feel about
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: the guy calling the plays? Yeah, I think that becomes
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: an extra check. All right, I think you look at you,
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: look at Philip, Just look at Philadelphia. Look since Nick
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: Sirianni took over, he originally called plays, gave it up
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: the Shane Steiken. They go to the Super Bowl, they lose.
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: Stiking gets hired as the head coach of Indianapolis. He
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: brings in Brian Johnson, They have a regression, he gets fired.
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: They bring in Kellen Moore, They have incredible success, they
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: win the Super Bowl. He gets a head job. Now
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: they promote Kevin Petullo. So since Nick Sirianni took over,
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: he had himself stiching Brian Johnson, Kellen Moore, Kevin Petullo.
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: He's about to have his sixth offensive play caller. Yeah,
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: it's not sustainable. Nobody has lost more coaches than Sean McVay.
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: But guess who calls the plays Sean McVay every day.
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: The only guy that's called plays for Matthew Stafford when
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: all these guys are leaving and all these guys are
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: getting interviews and he's gonna lose multiple guys this year,
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: but you never lose him. So again, I'm not saying
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: John Hobbroll is not a phenomenal coach. His track record,
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: his record, all that speaks for itself. I'm just saying,
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: if you have success, which you plan on having, what
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: is your answer to replacing your play caller over and
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: over and over again.
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: Right, It's a phenomenal point, it really is, because there's
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: gonna It's like you can you can say that and
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: then also say, yeah, you know, coach Will floor in
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: the stat is going to look back at how they
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: went about everything in the second half. Maybe it's aggressive
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: play calling, whatever it is, but that's something that you
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: can learn from, fix and get better at because you
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: still have the foundation that's there, which is being coach lafluur.
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, An, you have a great roster, like your roster
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: coming back next year is.
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: Oh, Jordan Love's a beast Like you mentioned Farv and
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. Jordan Love, Jordan Love is a monster, like
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: he is good, and you look at the development again
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: even to coach Lafluur, like you know, fighting for Coachel Ffur,
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: But look at what happens when you lose Jordan Love
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: for a few games and you got Malik Willis coming in,
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: Like what was his reputation when he got the green band?
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: And look how this dude performs and operates even when
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: your superstar quarterback is not there.
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: Just to speak of Malik Willis's development, like I was
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: with him his first year at the Tennessee Titans, and
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: the dude didn't know the place, he didn't know the checks,
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: he didn't know where to go, like, and he was
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: very clear and obvious, which ended up how you let
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: him go and you see him come in now, it's
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: like that is a product of Yeah, Matt Lafluur. Yeah,
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: And that's just it shows how much he does for quarterbacks.
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: And I love the take on the play call because
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: you're absolutely right. It's great to have like a CEO
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: type that can handle like Siriana can clearly handle the personalities.
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: I know him an age. I had a little back
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: and forth in this last game. But he handles personalities
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: really well, which is a big thing for a head coach.
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: But having when people leave and your you're the product
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: you put on the field doesn't change because your your
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: ability to take on things that's unbelievable. That's what you want, right.
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: And we said this about about your boy Frae bol
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: when I called their game in Week eighteen against the Dolphins.
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: This is just my opinion. If you gave me a
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: magic wand and I was an owner and I got
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: to hire my staff, my number one would go out
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: and find you at McVeigh Shanahana, Liam Cohen, an offensive
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: mind who also can communicate and lead and coach the
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: entire locker room and not just call plays right, Like,
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: I don't want a play caller as my head coach.
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: I want a head coach who's a play caller.
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: The second best option is vverybel right, verbel ceo type,
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: highly organized, has been there before, has had success. You
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: saw handle the end of that game last week. Because
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: he's not in the headset having to make every single
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: schematic call, right, He's letting coordinators call. He's managing the game,
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: managing the managers, The advantage that he has, especially on
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: the offensive side of the ball, where it really matters,
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: is he has like the bounce pack former head coach
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: play caller in Josh McDaniels. That's a very unique standpoint
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: where Drake May is a potential MVP candidate and Josh
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: McDaniels is most likely not going to interview for a job.
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: So if you can get like the former head coach
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: who's kind of had his opportunities and now he's bounced back,
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: that's Andy Reid with Steve Spagnola, right. For all the
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: success that Andy Reid has had, only Matt Nagy has
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: really gotten an opportunity to be a head coach, unless
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: I'm forgetting somebody, yeah on the offensive sideas on the
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: off and then Spags, who's been the architect of that defense,
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: which I would argue is the only reason they had
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: that long sustainability because the offense started the fall. Spag's
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: got those young defensive guys and took them back to
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: the Super Bowl in year one. Spags interviews. But does
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: anyone really think Spags is going to get a head
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: coaching job right? Right?
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: He could, so, do you think is it way more?
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: Is it way more offensive than defensive in your opinion,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: as far as I play at the calling of the
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: plays goes.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: I just think it's easier to find defensive coaches. I
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: think defensive coordinators and former defensive head coaches get fired
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: more frequently and they're just available, right, I mean, you
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: look around the league at guys. I mean just let's
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: just look at this playoff cycle. In just this season,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: you got Robert Sala, he just become the forty nine
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: Ers defense really struggles last year and Robert Sala becomes available.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: The year before that, Steve Wilkes, former head coach, was available. Yeah,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: you know, you look at Vic Fangio, former head coach
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: was at the Dolphins. Somehow the Dolphins let him walk
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: and he just becomes magically available. Is when they flores. Uh,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: you know, it's just Jonathan Gannon now becomes you know,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: he took that first year that the the first year
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: that Philadelphia went to the Super Bowl that they lost
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: to Kansas City. Shane Stiking got the job in Indy,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: and Jonathan Gannon, who is the dee coordinator in Philly,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: he got the head job in Arizona. He just got fired,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: so he's gonna be someone's decordinator. You just go on
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: and on and on. I think I'm not saying defensive
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: coordinators is easy. But Mike McDonald has had incredible success
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: in two years and he's about to hire his most
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: likely Kubiak is going to get ahead job. And now
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: in two years he's gonna have After two years, he's
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: gonna have to have three different coordinators. Yeah, yeah, right, grubs.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: Grubs made it one year. He fired him because he
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: didn't like it. He went back to college. Gets Clint Kubiak,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: who's just available because they all got canned in in
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: the st in New Orleans, and he has a great year.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: It lasted one year.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: He's gotta go find a new guy.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, how about Ben Johnson. He's got Dennis Allen.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: I was gonna say Dennis Allen's another one.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: You can just go on and on and on. Right, Like,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: there's just more of the veteran defensive guys to become
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: coordinators than there are offensive guys, because chances are if
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: those guys are probably still head coaches somewhere.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: Ye, let me ask you think Josh Allen in this
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills team, he's going to get over this hurdle
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: of having to travel to Denver and face this defense.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'd rather play Denver than At this point,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: I think I'd rather play if I'm Josh, If I'm
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: Josh Allen, I as good as Denver's defense is. I
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: think if I had to pick, I'd rather play Denver
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: and Denver than New England in New England, right, I
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: think I think that that's a better matchup. So I
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: think them going in the divisional round to Denver. I
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: think I'm on Buffalo. I said, all right, I can
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: do this. I mean, am I sitting here saying they're
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: going to guarantee? I don't know? I still I I've
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: said all year giving up on Josh Allen. Ever, I
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: don't care what the roster looks like. I don't care
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: what their game flow looks like, the defense, did they
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: have any weapons? They got Josh Allen and he is
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: a generationally talented, unique, not just quarterback, just all around
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: football player. And you, I mean you saw it clear
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: as day yesterday.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Josh Allen, dude, he is He's truly one
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: of one. Like if he's on the Jaguars roster, he
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: that game is it's a blowout. It's an absolute blowout
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: that takes place. And that's that I feel like people
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: that would say old Trevor Lawrence like, now, I'm not
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: trying to disrespect Trevor Warence. I'm trying to give massive
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: flowers to Josh Allen because that's the scary thing about
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: this Bills team is you can run on them. They
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: have the number one pass defense, which is great, but
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: you can run on them very easily. Their wide receiving
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: crew is probably a bottom five wide receiving crew in
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: the NFL. Gave Davis just gets hurt yesterday on a
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: hit that it seemed like he I know this is
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: an allegedly, but it looks like he had another big
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: massive knee injury and had to get helped off the
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: field card to the locker room. So they're decimated once
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: again in that and in that position group. But Josh dude,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: he has the ability at any point to put the
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: cape on and run through anyone. He can be anybody.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: And this is Bowenickx's first time walking into a playoff situation,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: regardless if it's at home or not, like that pressure
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: is different. You see it with Drake May a little
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: bit with the score of that game, like, he played well,
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: but it wasn't like, you know, throwing points on the
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: board over and over again. So I could definitely see
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen going into Denver YEA and catching them in
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: a bit of a lull. I don't know how how
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: old that team is, but just knowing that their quarterback
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: is in his second year in the NFL like that
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: gives me a lot of room for pause, thinking like,
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen really has the easiest path he has had
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: ever to make it to the super Bowl. Yeah, the
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: Denver's defense is for real. They are for real.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: Their defense is for real, there's no question. And Sean
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: Payton can coach his ass off on offense. Yeah, listen,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying any of you get to the divisional rounds.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: There's no such thing as an easy matchup. There's no
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: such thing as a good matchup. There's some that are
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 3: better than others on paper. So yeah, I mean I think, yeah,
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: I could go on and on about how good Josh Allen.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: I mean, look at what Brandon Cooks did. Brandon Cooks
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: wasn't even on the roster a couple of weeks ago,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: and he had to play the day. He kept their
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: season alive with that long explosive down the middle that's
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: set up the end of the game. What's crazy, you
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: know the touch push and all that.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: What's crazy is that touch push you brought up like
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: the Bills were on the side of banning the touch
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: post last year was iron and then they ran it
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: for what six six yards? Yeah, that was unbelievable, unreal
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: to the point where like they didn't score it on
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: I think of myself, that's actually a really good thing.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: They didn't score. They probably took time off the clock.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: But it's like that was insane that you were able
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: to do that just now. But also like the Jaguars
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: and Will, I gotta give Will out of credit because
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: you know, I think it was early, like middle September.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: He's like, bro, I'm telling you the Jaguars are a
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: sneaky team, and me and my Tennessee Titans brain is like, no,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: they're not, and you watched that game and we aren't.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: That's with the wide receivers. But every time the wide
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: receivers caught the ball, they're getting tackled immediately open space,
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: the first guys bringing them down like they are an
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: extremely well coached football team, and I think where they
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: lost it was getting into the past a little too
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: much with Trevor Lawrence, who clearly was having a non
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: momentum type of day. Like their momentum was clearly on
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: the run game.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and that defense now is serious, They're good. Yeah,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: Josh Allen's just a.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, unreal. And you know it's like you're sitting there.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: We got to watch so many good games, so many
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: lead changes, and when Jacksonville took the ball, it's like,
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: all right, this is this can be like a Trevor
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: Lawrence legacy game. And to see the ball hit the hands,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: get tipped up and get picked off on that first.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: First it's a heartbreak and then everyone's everyone's gonna put
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: that on Trevor Lawrence. But it's like yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: yeah yeah.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: And I'm just glad it didn't backfire on Buffalo because
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: I think they would have taken some heat for how
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: they handled that goal line situation.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah right, you you take as much time off the
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: clock as again because they had all their timeouts.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: Right, yeah, so Jacksonville had all their time out, Well no,
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: Jacksonville only had no Jacksonville was out of timeouts. Jacksonville
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: took their last time out on the tush push that
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: originally was ruled a touchdown. Then they ruled correctly that
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: he was down short of the goal line. Instead of
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: taking a ten second run off, Jacksonville elected to use
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: their final timeout. So there was like a minute and
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: two and they were out of timeouts, and the broadcast
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: talked about it, and everyone's sitting at home. It's like,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 3: you know, you saw I Vrabel do it a couple
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: weeks earlier in the season, took a knee slash, like
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: just fall down. Yeah, you know, I'm first down. Jacksonville
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: is going to let you score, right, so can you
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: take Can you just fall down and leave it and
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: say I got second goal, third goal, fourth and goal
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: even at Jacksonville. Now, once you run that first play
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: and you run the play clock down, now Jacksonville's going
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: to try to have a goal line stand because their
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: opportunity of possessing the ball now.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: Is a right.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: Buffalo had timeout, so they could have still run time
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 3: out and handled the end of the game. So fortunately
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: for them, it didn't matter trying to run off another
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 3: thirty seconds, thirty to forty seconds. It's probably the right move.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: But again, we judge all of these decisions by the outcome,
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: and when the outcome goes your way, nobody talks about
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: the decision. And that's just the nature of the business.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's bro Could you imagine if they took
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: that approach where they kind of just fall down, take
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: thirty or forty seconds off to call a timeout, and
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: then go for it, you know, two three times, don't
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: get it and get stopped. The conversation we would be
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: happening right now. That's the postgame press game press conference now. Yeah,
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: and that's a perfect example of like having the stones
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: to do that. I don't think head coach is thinking
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: that at that moment. They're probably just thinking score.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I don't think McDermott. I think McDermott seriously
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: considered doing it. I think if again, it's easy to
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: sit here now and say could have, should have. The
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: part that's hard to predict is you anticipate on first
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: down that Jacksonville is going to say, let them score.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 3: But what you don't want is say they don't. Say
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: they blow up your center and you try to take
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 3: a knee and Josh Allen gets knocked back and now
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 3: instead of first and goal at the half yard line,
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: it's first and goal at the yard and a half two.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: Say you lose a yard. Now you're like, holy shit,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: it's second and goal from the two, and now Jacksonville
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 3: hunkers down. So like I think, there's always that fear
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: in the back of your head. It's just a lot
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: easier to say we scored, we gave them the ball.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: I trust my defense, and if they go down to
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: kick a game tying field goal or god forbid, a touchdown,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: you stand there and say, hey, man, our defense has
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: to play better. We got to do a better job
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: in two minutes. Blah blah, blah blah blah. That's an
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 3: easier conversation. People are more comfortable. We've seen that happen
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: a million times. Could you imagine to your point of
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: blowing first and goal at the half because you got cute,
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: that fear is real?
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, now that's a that's a good like. I could
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: see that being a Friday Friday tape. Friday tape going
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: over a certain situations, because another one that I was
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: hitting Greg on was I want to say it was
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: the was it the Niners?
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: Niners?
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: They were up by four they scored, they went and
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: kicked the extra point, and I'm like, hey, you go
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: for two there, right, like it was in the fourth quarter, Like,
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: you go for two there to try and make it
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: six instead of four because you're kind of in no
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: man's land with four four and five point lead. Try
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: and go for two and make it six because you
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: number one, just in the hopes of seeing you know,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: if the Eagles were to score missing the extra point.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: But you also witnessed the Eagles missing an extra point
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: earlier in.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: That game that was one.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's actually a fun one. So you guys
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: want to dive into that because it's actually a fun conversation. Okay, Yeah,
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: in that situation, the kicker had already missed an extra point.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: He had missed multiple extra points all season long that
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 3: specific moment that team, Yes, I think I would have
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: tried to go up by six instead. If you score
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: a touchdown on me, I'll hope that you yank the
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: extra point again and at least gives me a chance. Right,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: if I'm up five, your kicker, you know, his kick
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 3: doesn't have any real bearing on winning and losing. Yeah,
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: the next level to that conversation, so put that aside
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: for a second, because I agree with will put that aside.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 3: The next conversation is a little bit more in depth,
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 3: and this is where the argument of kicking to stay
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 3: up five because you don't want to be up four.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: Being up fives better than being up four. So the guy,
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: let's say he makes the extra point, right, The notion
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 3: comes down to do you feel more comfortable getting a
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: two point conversion or stopping a two point conversion? Right?
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 3: Because when I go up five, everyone goes, well, you
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: want to be up The argument for kicking the extra
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 3: point is, well, I want to be up five because
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: of them up four. Now your touchdown puts you up three.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 3: If you go down and score, I mean you go
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: up three now field point put yeah, field goal ties
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 3: the game. Okay, but if but if I but if
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 3: I'm up five and you score, you're gonna go for
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: two to try to go up three. Anyway, so you're
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: either gonna be up one or three. Yeah, So do
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 3: you want to defend a two point? Do you want
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: to kick two? Do you want to go for a
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 3: two point? Defend a two points? So that one there
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: is some layers, but uh, there's.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: A lot to it.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like you're making the decision to just kick the
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: extra point because it's like, hey, if we go for
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: this two point conversion fail and we're still only up four,
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: their extra point puts us puts them up three. Do
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: we want to yeah, do we want to defend? We
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: feel good about defending an extra point versus stopping them
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: on a two point conversion correct a lot of so
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: many layers. Another situation too, and I Green Bay into
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: the game when the driving and their offensive lineman goes down,
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: you got you gotta get off the field.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: And who knows what his injury was, but unless you're done,
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: I remember I the cart's gotta come out or you
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: gotta be dead. We were playing Tampa.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: We were playing Tampa one year and William Golston, who
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: I have a lot of history with, he like after
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: that at the end of play, kind of like flips
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: me over his shoulder and elbows me in the in
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: the testicles, and I'm like rolling around the ground and
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm I'm not realizing it's not it's not competing
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: my brain that you're in four minute. You have to
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: get up right now, and they blow the whistle, they
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: come out my no, no, I just got hitting the ball,
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: so I run over to the sideline, and Vrabel tore
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: me apart about that in team meetings where it's like,
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: no matter what, unless there's a bone out, you need
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: to like not have that clock stop at that point.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: Right right right, Yeah, that is like the conversation that
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: coaches are telling you, like you better the stretch, or
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: something better be happening, you better be dead, or some
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: massive situations.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: You know that take it to run off like you'd
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: always play like what could have, should have what could
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: have happened. It's like, I think there's a really strong
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: chance the Packers win that game.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: Then possibly, but they're just again, they're they're able to
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: to operate a little bit with just knowing you got
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: ten extra seconds on the clock.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: Yes, exactly whether or not they score.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: It's like every backup everybody has to be so in
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: tune and where if you do have a situation like
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: that my man's crawling off the feel, they're yelling, their
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: cheering for him to get off on the sideline, the
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: backup better be ready to just to sprint in. That's
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: the entire operation of everything that, like Verbel definitely teaches
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: and coaches, but everybody being so dialed in, in tune
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: and prepared for a game so that way you can
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: manage the game to the best of your ability. Because
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: it sucks that he got hurt, but you gotta find
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: a way to get off that field, or you jog
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: down just to survive a spy, whatever it is. You
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: just gotta find it. You can't you can't stay late,
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: you can't stay laid up on the ground. And then
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: when I saw him walk off, I'm like, oh, he
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: just that's that's you can't have that. You can't have it, dude, Miami.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: Killing it.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: You did it National Championship and you right out.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 3: There for the game. That was fun. Yeah. I went
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 3: out there just for the quick up and back and
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 3: it was.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: It was awesome, dude. I mean, crystal ball the whole thing.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: The conversation were having a couple weeks ago about I
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: just can't believe that Miami, who what they finished third
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: in the a SEC. Yeah, has just just been doing it, man.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: And I literally had to get into the dance bro.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: I was on ESPN and Greeney looked at me and
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: he goes, it's two minutes left in the game. Carson
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: Beck has the ball in his hands. They have to
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: score to win a touchdown? What happens and I go ole,
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: miss will go to the national championship. If that is happening,
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: I basically kind of just throw Carson Carson Beck under
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: the bus and it only to see him do that
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: exact situation and put it in my.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: Face and around because it was it was the perfect
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: I want to say, maybe there was three minutes left
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: because me, JP and clumb are sitting up there, I'm like,
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: this is Carson Beck's got the ball. This is what
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: we went over, is essentially what we went over to
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: get up earlier that day, earlier that day.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 3: And I'm happy for him. Man, it's uh, it's been
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 3: a fun ride, and I hope they can pull it
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 3: off one more.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: You going to the last one?
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna take the family down. We're gonna let's
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: go down.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: You just tell him don't upload anything to the cloud.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: Have you been seeing that?
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 3: No?
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: Does that mean there's there's like whispers and rumors and
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: allegedly that Indiana has like an advanced Connor Stallion's operation
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: going on.
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  Speaker 2: Oh oh yeah, Oh I thought you were talking about
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: something different.
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  Speaker 3: My kids told me about that. I don't buy it.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: It's like it's like hacking into comms. A lot of things,
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: like stuff to upload with the cloud. Like there's a lot,
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: there's a conspiracy and people are tying it. Mark Cuban,
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: he's an owner of Catapult, the GPS system that basically
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: the majority of teams use, and when that data gets uploaded.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of stuff going on. I'm not saying it's truth.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not saying it out of that all right, what
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  Speaker 2: do you think Miami's chances are?
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  Speaker 3: Like?
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  Speaker 2: Are you right now? The line is? I think seven
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: and a half. Indiana's favored by seven and a half
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: points the last time I looked at it. How do
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: you How do you feel we got all the momentum?
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: I don't think you do it.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: Did you see that ass whooping Big Netty put.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 3: On all the momentum? We got all the momentum.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: Boys, it's oh, it's eight and a half favorite now,
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: so Indiana is going to eight and a half even better?
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: Is it?
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  Speaker 3: Now? They're going to lose their momentum beause they're getting
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 3: high on themselves.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're flying a little too close to the sun,
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: like the Rams almost did against Carolina.
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  Speaker 2: All Right, Greg, you're the man, bro.
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  Speaker 2: Oh hey, yeah, have you been seeing it? You've had
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  Speaker 2: to have seen it. Yeah, I've seen it, but he
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: didn't say it back. I know, did you see it?
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  Speaker 2: Have you seen it?
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: I saw Carson back. Have you guys been seeing it? Well,
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: the stuff coming out with not coming out like it's truth,
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  Speaker 1: but the stuff that's going.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: We were texting about that, weren't we on Saturday? Yeah? Yeah, yeah.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: I did see like I think it was Friday or
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: something like that. Like I saw like an account that
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: I it was like Indian has an advanced scouting Connor
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: Stallion's kind of taking place. And I went to the
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: account and the account had like three and a half
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: thousand followers, and I was like, this to me, isn't enough.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: There's more accounts. I will say, whispers have been there,
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: but more underground. This was the first weekend to where
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: I feel like you profile like people out there are
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: talking about it in a louder with a louder voice,
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: And again, I have no fucking clue. I'm not because
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: I've loved the fantasy about like talking with all the
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: Indiana fans, seeing what they've done, how they flipped and
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: turned the program around and potentially starting at a sixteen
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: and o season. I think we sleep on the fact
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: that we might not witness a sixteen and o potential
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: season with the parody and everything coming to college football.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: So the history that Indian is making, I've loved the story,
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: I've loved everything else, but it's hard. You see everybody
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: going back and forward with Miami. Now you're picking it
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: up because again you got all the banter, all the
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: fandom kind of arguing back and forth and debating, articles
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: being written out defending. So you just see the noise
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: getting louder.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: The noise is growing where people are already figuring out
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: a way to put an asterisk on Indiana's one national team,
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: already trying to already trying to And dude, if you're
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: just sitting back as a fan and people are really
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: breaking down that Indiana when Kurt Signetti took over, Indiana
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: football was the losingest football program in D one history
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: ever and he has lost two games in his career
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: and his career as a head coach. Like, if they
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: win this national championship, there's already an argument in my
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: mind to be like, is Kurt Signetti the greatest head
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: coach of all time? And that includes Nick Saban That
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: there's dude, just think about it, like Nick Saban, Nick
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: Saban to lsure the moment easy, this is this is
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: and I will that's a perfect thing. This is a
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: prisoner of the moment type of thought process. But just
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: stick with me here and whoever's watching and listening, you
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: can comment your opinions. This is just the avenue I
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: go down. Is Nick sab him he was an LSU,
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: right he wins a national championship to Miami comes back?
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: He doesn't. He goes to Alabama, which is always got
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: great players. Always they have four or five star guys.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: Indiana when the statu you brought up in ESPN is
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: incredible to where these schools have like sixty something blue
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: chip players that are four and five star guys. Indiana
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: doesn't have any five stars and they have seven four
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: stars and they're the they don't make mistakes, they know
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: every situation perfectly. They have a quarterback that was like
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: a two star, three star coming out of high school
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: was Sir cal He's a surgeon. And it's just there's
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: no way to look at this and look at the
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: roster talent and be like, oh, Kurt Signetti, like he
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: might be the greatest of all time, he might be
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: the goat.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: I think that's where it separates, because I would die
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: on this hill that this is the greatest coaching job
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: we've ever seen, like a turnaround season stuff like that.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: But the separation would be the sustainability and longevity. I
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: mean sabing seven college football National championships, Like they started
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: winning those Natties at Alabama when he was there, like
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: starting in nine, he got on nine, tenty, eleven, twelve, fifteen, seventeen, twenty.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: The sustainability and culture and everything that he built, Like
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: there is a there's a legacy factor that he has there,
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: Like the legacy right now, Indiana finishes sixteen, and oh,
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: the legacy is gonna be statue, Like I'm sure there'll
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: be a movie about this one day because it is unreal. Again,
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: when we're talking to these Indiana fans, the gratitude and
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: just they're so hyped to be there just to cheer
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: on their team. They travel very well, and all of
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: them across the board, it's just that it's unreal to them.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: One guy was like, it's like a dream on top
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: of a dream. It's like a dream beyond a dream.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: Oh he's inception. Yeah yeah, and the way his eyes
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: are moving around as he's trying to explain it. I'm
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: like having conversations with the fans and they're just they're
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: all so nice and so appreciative and just so fired
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: up that this has happened with their school. Like it's
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: it's unprecedented what Chris Signetti has done at Indiana for
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: in these first two years.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: Right, so we're going to be like the goat college.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: I love the framing of this might be the best
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: what you say.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: Coaching, the greatest coaching job we've ever seen, the.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: Greatest coaching job we've ever seen, and that is I
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: think already done. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we go. Also the
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: outcome of this next shire, Yeah, I feel you to
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: go from the worst to arguably the best.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: And again the last thing anything that they wont of
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: substance was nineteen forty five. Yeah, and when we were
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: talking about on ESPN, it's like since two thousand they've
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: had twenty or twenty one losing seasons.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: It is incredible in with this team. And the thing
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: that I saw I saw was it Josh Pate. He's
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: saying that Indiana has the nicest fan base of all time.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: You you telling that story just now, And it's like
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: these fans truly are living in a world of gratitude
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: where like we're just so happy to be here as
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: opposed to maybe some other fan bases that have been
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: you know, we we should, we need to be in
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: this position. That's kind of program we are. I wonder
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: how long this uh success needs to be sustained for
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: the fan base to change to be like, yeah, yeah,
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: this is what we do.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: You know they have a four lost season, like, well,
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: I think we need a can Signata dude, Like I
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: think he's lost his juice.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: It'd be it would be crazy to see because I
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: really feel like this fan base, I'm so happy that
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: they're getting to feel this moment because I'm sure if
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: you're like if you're born into being an Indiana Hoosiers fan,
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: you're probably giving a certificate being like, hey, this is
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: a good therapist you could possibly have. Trust me, it's
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: not going to go well, but this is your This
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: is your and now you get to live in it,
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: which is just mind blowing to me.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: And again, like in America, football is the most popular sport.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: Like just imagine being like generations. A dude was wearing
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: a bracelet talking about how it was just dazz and
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: how much he just loved football in Indiana football even
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: though they were no good and he's now wearing it
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: because it's like a generational thing. And the thought of
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: like I'm here because I know he'd want me to
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: come to this game, like the most popular sport in America.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: For all you've ever known, your grand parents, everybody. All
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: you've never known is man, we'll never get to like
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: Sniff's success the way we see all these fan bases
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: have fun to now be in a spot to like, hey, family,
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: pack your bags, we are going down to Atlanta to
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: watch us in the in the semi finals of the
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: college football playoffs. Are now it's like we're going to
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: We're going to this national title, Like this is core
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: who knows how long this will last. This is insane
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: the feeling we get to have rooting on this football team.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, some would argue, before Indiana has gone on this run,
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 4: the biggest thing in Indiana. In Indiana is the breackyard
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 4: four hundred or the IndyCar race that happens there.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: I mean their basketball team. It has been always they
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: got the movie Who's.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 4: But like it's still like that's that was the biggest
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 4: thing that everybody in Indiana would look forward to. Now
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 4: it's like they have a football team.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they got a ball club. It's incredible, a ball
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: club that, like I'm trying to like, Miami has things
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: that could definitely equalize the game. But I don't see
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: a lot of avenues for Miami to win this game,
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: like outright win it.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 5: It is so rare for a situation like this for
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 5: these Indiana fans, for this program to not only have
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 5: this turnaround, but to also not be the sweetheart in
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 5: the situation. They are beating people's asses like they're the
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 5: big dog walking.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: And fucking Signetti goes, we don't just beat top twenty
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: five teams, we beat the we beat their ass or
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 2: something like that, Like he is calling shots the.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: Google me the well that show that shot was called
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: I think before they got whooped by Notre Dame lest.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, which is funny. And then because so many soone
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: sweet that like never wrong, just early, because now they've
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: had like five top ten teams that they've just mowed
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: down over and over. So yeah, it's it's it's fucking
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: wild to see. And Kurtzignetti is the perfect guy that
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: if you're not a fan of just watching the storyline,
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: he's the perfect guy for you to hate. Yeah, he's perfect.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: It's got You've got, You've got his antics and notions
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: and sound bites along with Banana Mendoza's like unquestionably jovial, exciting,
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: like just you could just tell he's just so happy
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: to be there. And it's funny.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: I've never heard the Heisman be called a team award before.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: I've never heard the MVP be called the team Award before.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: Fordana Mendoza hit that three or four times in his
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: in his Heisman speech. Now, Drake may and Matthew Stafford,
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: I've both heard them recognize the MVP as a team award,
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: and I've and I could be totally off on this,
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: I've never heard that before. It's like, this kid's really
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: just making it all by the time. This kid is
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: really what football should totally be about.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's the shit that juices you up a
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: little bit.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: I know. Miami's gonna obviously have an uphill battle. They're
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: eight and a half point underdogs, gonna have to be
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: a physical game. Like if they got him anywhere, it's
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage. I'm between Bain and Mesador
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: and then on the offensive line, these size bro like
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: getting the watch and see.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: And we were up yeah, tell me about that.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: We were up in sweet like we got to see
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: him warming up pre game and everything else. But even
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: up in a sweet and I'm sitting down there and
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: it's the left tackle. I forget his number, maybe number seventy.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: I'm just like, look for his size.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: No, no, Miami. Yeah, he's gonna be a first round pick.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: He's like a top ten You talking about Oregon, No,
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about Miami.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: Isaiah Isaa's like they have like a first rounder guy
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: that's number sixty one. But just the size and the
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: beef of this Miami football team is wild to see
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: in person. I don't know if the Whites that are
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: making of the white jerseys, the unis making them look massive,
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: but like, this is a massive football team and they
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: just they obviously have this skill. They have talent across
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: the board, but what they have up front and that
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: defense plays salty. Now salty, bro they will have to
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: go up against Indiana, who has been surgical on both
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: offense and defense. They are physical. I remember it's like
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: they were talking about them going out to Oregon the
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: first game, the defensive coordinators on Twitter responding back to
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: people talking about how they're undersize and this that the
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: other like, that's a physical team who plays very well
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: with their eyes. They're always insanely prepared. Before that Oregon game,
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: they that red zone defense only had only allowed twenty
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: three as in their red zone across the entire season.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: Their offense got in the red zone like sixty eight times,
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: but they only allowed twenty three attempts in their red
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: zone and only allowed from those twenty three attempts six touchdowns.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: There hadn't been a team outside of like two games
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: where they allowed more than one touchdown. Oregon got one
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: or two there late in the game when the game
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: was already done.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: And over.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: But the defense for Indiana's for real. Mendoza is a surgeon.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: They run the ball well, Bro, that running back, I'm
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: forgetting his name, number eighth black black, Yeah, run by
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: the Atlanta scrimmage. They push piles, he finds lanes like.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: They are physical, they celebrate hard. They just seem like
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: they have the most fun that they know. They're out
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: there whooping team's asses. And Mendoza puts the ball in
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: perfect windows, Bro, in perfect spot. How about the back
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: shoulders and Bro, every time I was having I'm like,
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: there's that back door to number thirteen.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: Yes, sir, the album. When I was watching the film
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 2: before we did ESPN and talk like talk about it,
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: I'm watching like I I have to talk to you
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 2: because I have no idea how you defend that play.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 2: How if you're in one o one and you're impressed
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 2: coverage and you get a corner to turn his shoulders
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: to the opposite side, to his back to the quarterback,
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 2: There's no way to defend that play. Bro, And Fernando
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: puts the ball in the perfect spart every time. And
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 2: I'm watching from Vegas. I'm just sitting there being like
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 2: I hope Will's like seeing this in real time because
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 2: I was very vocal about like this is.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, open up every every time it's like there
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: it goes again. Yeah, and it can be well contested.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: Sarat just has he has incredibly strong hands, bro, Like
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: the dude still comes down with it.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 2: It's it's so impressed.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 4: That's from Saint He transferred to JMU. He's from Saint Francis,
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 4: which is your school in Philly. They are declassifying from
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 4: D one to D three. That's how kind of bad
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 4: that they are. He transferred from there to I think
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 4: JMU and then came with Signetty to Indiana. So he
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 4: was like a D one double a guy and now
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 4: is just routing up five.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: Dude and they have the ability like like is it
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 2: Omar Cooper?
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: Like that kid. Also like they when you talk about
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 2: the game of momentum, like a lot of these cats
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 2: if they were to be at a jam U still
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 2: or other schools.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: Like.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: Not having this to sustained success, the confidence you got
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 2: to where Sautos every time I run this, go this
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 2: back shoulder, go ball, he believes it is hard and
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 2: fart He's gonna catch it every single time. And that
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 2: to me really means something, is they have a player
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: with confidence aka momentum that we joke about with Greg
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: all the time, like it's it's so beautiful to see.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 2: And bro, did you see the clip You were at
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: the game, but did you see the clip of the
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 2: defensive end for Indiana putting that move on Isaiah World. Yea,
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 2: it inside moved. Isaiah does a great job taking it,
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 2: taking taking over. Then he goes back to the outside.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 2: And when Isaiah World turns, his shoulders spin back in
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 2: and it's like Kevin Hart's comedy, specially when he talks
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: about shack falling on the ground during basketball games. It
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 2: is literally he's like, oh no, it literally falls hits
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 2: his back and lays on his back for a second.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: And even tho way he gets up of the money,
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 2: is he hurt like it is? It was like it's
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 2: a great athletic play by that kid. But you can
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: tell like he knows what he's doing from a rush standpoint,
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 2: Like you can see he's like his shoulders are turned out.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 2: This is when I make the counter the second counter
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 2: move back to the inside, and I'm watching it like
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: my heart obviously goes out to Isaiah like he's you know,
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 2: he's a homie. But that's one of those plays you
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 2: look at and you're like, he just got you, buddy,
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 2: and that is a that's just it's it was surgical, bro,
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: what that dude was able to do. It was truly
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 2: surgical where I'm like, yeah, I don't see a flaw anywhere,
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 2: and it's crazy to see.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: Miamy's got to play a clean game too. I feel
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: like the whole like the bad Boy manch or everything out.
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: They had some bad penalties and they got this same
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: they got Miami. Oh yeah, he got saved with one
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: where they end up pushing Chambliss out of bounce. It
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: should have been a roughing, but.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they could end up smoking his head on the
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: bench because they had the little the shade covers and
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 2: I saw it in real time, like, god, damn, that
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 2: could get fucked up. For a second. Yeah, I was hoping,
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 2: uh Trinidad would pull it out of his ass at
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: the end. Man, it came close.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: I mean that that was a past interference at the
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: end of the game on the clearly a past interference
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: Like I was in there too, Like this would be
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: so great to have this.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: I'll just be on the Old Miss bandwagon because I
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 2: really was. But man, yeah, everything was going exactly how
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 2: it needed to go for Old Miss to take care
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 2: of that game.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: Four lead changes in the fourth quarter. Crazy the dude,
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: it was nuts, man. And I like, as much as
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, how are they allowing Ole Miss to
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: just be in the position to throw a hell Mary
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: like this? I would have loved to have seen another
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: play because it's what a fifteen yard penalty? Yeah, to
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: have seen another play just nuts.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 2: And then two days later, Trinidad Jamblis's appeal to be
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 2: have a six year get denied after the day after
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 2: and that just sucks man for him, Me Sam coming
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 2: back all this and you're like, how awesome is that?
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 2: And then he gets cut and you're like, hey, man,
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 2: sorry about that. You're going to NOWT Championship and also
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 2: you're done playing college football. It's like, what the fuck? Yeah,
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 2: see a bud? That sucks? Man, that sucks.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 5: I have this tear talk loaded up for you guys.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 2: Should we have some tear talks question before we go
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: into the tear talk. Yeah, tear talk for Mitch Carsley
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 2: hashtag tear talk.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 4: Have you all have you guys seen this stuff surrounding
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 4: the forty nine ers in their practice facility.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 2: Yes, bro, it was in the group chat last night.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 4: I sent it in. It is something to seriously think about. Again,
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 4: I'm not like an electro whatever, yeah physicist.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 2: Oh good, we know we aren't either, right, but like
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 2: you know my background, it is something.
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 4: It is like the studies and shit that's been on.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 4: It's like, yo, if you actually think about it, where
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 4: Niners are known as being the most injured team, it's
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 4: all of these soft tissue tendon uh like injuries. Like
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 4: if this is a real like thing, what the fuck
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 4: are we doing?
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: Bro?
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 2: I mean it is real, I like, like to me,
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 2: to me, when I see that, I'm like, man, that
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 2: fucking sucks. And I hope they have like some progressive
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 2: thinking healthcare physicians on that team to where they make
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 2: a big deal out of it to ownership because when
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 2: I when I look at it, like with the EMFs
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 2: and the five G all that stuff, like, I'm a
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 2: firm believer, like you got to get as much of
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 2: that off of you as possible. I think it really
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 2: does mess up all sorts of things.
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying, Like I don't know exactly what
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 4: it does to you or what exactly happens, but like
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 4: that's why I'm saying, if it is a real thing,
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 4: and like the science and which it seems like it
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 4: does back it up, it's like, you guys need to
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 4: figure it out.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 2: Right, we don't know enough about it, but we know
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 2: it's one hundred percent fact. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 2: Like if you're like, hey, Taylor will break this down
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 2: for us, we'd be like, really, we don't have a time,
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 2: we'll be able to check out this Twitter three. Yeah exactly,
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 2: But dude, there is a real thing about like grounding
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 2: and having like I don't know if it's like magnetic
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 2: stuff in your body because I'm just gonna sound it's
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 2: all good. Hey, we just know it's undred fact. You
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 2: always know what's a fact. You're right, Yeah, we're not
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 2: gonna break down, but let me try to bring it down. Literally,
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 2: we shouldn't break it down.
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 4: I saw a tweet of the old long snapper for
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 4: the Niners, like from years ago. His name like Tabor
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 4: something else. He's like, look at the trees on the
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 4: side of where the electro plane is, and then look
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 4: at the trees across the street, the trees where the
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 4: electro plane is, no leaves, everything's dead. The trees right
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 4: across the street full of leaves. It's like, Yo, there's
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 4: something happening right now. Not a scientist or whatever, but
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 4: it's like, hey, with.
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 2: A picture example, right in front of our eyes, yes,
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 2: right in front of our faces, you can literally see
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 2: which tree is happier. It's like that one, and it's
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 2: like if that one's that fucked up? And the thing
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 2: right next to is what we're talking about.
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, fact, all I needed to see was the electrical
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 5: engineer with the EMF.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 2: Reader, Yeah, sitting out there outside yes two.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 5: Point three, is like, hey, that's max on this reading
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 5: that a human should be around two point three of
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 5: whatever the signal is. You don't want any more than that.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 5: And then he's on the practice field and it's like
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 5: eight point four, eight point seven, eight point I'm like, okay,
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 5: that's real. That's evidence, Yeah, that that's not safe.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 2: In regardless because it has been the last three years. Man,
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 2: it's always been these crazy injuries. Who's the linebacker in
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 2: the Super Bowl? Dre green Law just yea Achilles obviously
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 2: George yesterday, But Trent had this soft tish. Everybody's been
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 2: hurt achilles. Yes, bro, that is a good one too.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 2: That is a good one.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 4: Something like something to think about all of the A
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 4: c ls and stuff that's happened out there.
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: Like.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 2: That was a that was a contact injury though, but
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 2: weaker could have been weaker. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good.
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 2: That's a good.
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: It's not like it has to happen in San Francisco
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: at a home game. This is like these dudes are
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: practicing on this field every.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 2: Day, every day. They're at this facility every day. Yeah. Man,
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 2: but where do if you're in San Francisco, which Silicon
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 2: Valley Tech, you know, the tech mecca of our our
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 2: universe in the United States? Like, where do you go?
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 2: If you're gonna move, if you're gonna be very serious
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 2: about this and you're looking at as ownership for San Francisco, where.
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 3: Do you go? I don't know.
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 2: That's a good call. Get like a giant arrows tag
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 2: and drape it over. Yeah, just put put those tags
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 2: just literally all around the ball.
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 4: Over the Just move your practice facility. I mean that's
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 4: a billion dollar team, Like, just move it.
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 2: I can't it's one hundred million dollar move I.
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 4: Think they are a billion dollar team.
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 2: That's we're talking about ten percent now, Ken.
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: But I mean you can there's got there's got to
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: be you got to come with the solution. Got to
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: come with the solution. Can't you say these billionaires got
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: to do this?
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 4: But like I feel like if you are ownership and
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 4: you see this, like oh ship, you're not going to
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 4: like your team is seriously suffering because of problem.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: But if you don't want to hurt your bottom line.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 4: Which they which which the which the teams and like
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 4: owners and people don't necessarily they care about that more
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 4: than I guess you could say the health right.
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: They care about the bottom line more. So it's much
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: easier to be like, find a new training staff. Clearly
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: these guys are getting hurt, or shrink staff, training staff.
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: You know, you just you blame something that would be cheaper.
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 2: Or find people that aren't on this podcast that are
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 2: like this is one hundred percent true. People can be
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 2: like that's one hundreercent false. We need Huberman to break
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 2: this down. We need Huberman to That's what we need
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 2: is Hubie Breca. You need Breca. His wife dm Me
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 2: the other day asked Hi about UFC stuff, and I'm like, hey,
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 2: where's that red light? Should I say anything about the
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 2: red lay bad? I probably won't.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 5: Uh, just for time purposes, we could just do one
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 5: Tier talk this week.
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 2: This one. We can read it out.
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 5: But I thought it'd be fun to pose the question
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 5: to you guys, if you could only pick two teams
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 5: to make the playoff next year, who would your two
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 5: teams be?
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 3: You want to read it?
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 2: Okay, here we go.
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: We got one from John O Steele John O Steele
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: on X only two of the twelve teams that made
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: it to the playoffs will make it again next year.
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: Hashtag tier talk. We'd love to know what two teams
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: he's thinking about. If you only got to pick two
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: teams this year's playoff, which is just easy cop out?
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 2: Indiana Miami? I see, I don't know. I mean, yeah,
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 2: that's an easy cop out, no doubt. What about JMU
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 2: It seems like they have the easiest path every year
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 2: if they have a guaranteed spot in there.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 4: They lost, they lost, they lost all.
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 2: Their status they always do do they always do, jam
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 2: you always, and they lost their entire roster. This year
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 2: they're gonna be it again. I honestly, that's a clean
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 2: I'll say Miami and Texas Tech. I like Texas Tech.
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to Miami with you. Do they have
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 2: a quarterback?
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. You've got Texas Tech. They're number
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: one in the portal right now, like Miami is gonna
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: be really good in the portal. Miami is by far
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: the best team in the ACC. Like it's it's not
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: even close. And Texas Tech is kind of operating that
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: same capacity. Because you look at these other teams the
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: conferences that they're in, the SEC and the Big Ten,
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: you kind of see the parody that will be there
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: next year in the college football season. I feel like
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: Texas Tech's just gonna reload, Miami's gonna reload there by
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: far and above the better, the best teams right now
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: in their respective conferences.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 2: Texas Tech does that they have the number three transfer
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 2: portal class as of right now storesby just transferred the
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 2: more stores is a dog. And yeah, I agree with
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 2: you in that that Big twelve in the ACC are
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 2: the lesser of the two, the lesser than SEC Big ten.
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I like that take. Because Miami. You say Miami,
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking, yeah, but they haven't been back in forever
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 2: blah blah blah. But it's like it is a twelve
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 2: team playoff, and I think they clearly realize that, Like,
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 2: we made it harder on ourselves than we have to
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 2: be by losing the SMU and Louisville. Like next year
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 2: they're gonna go in. My biggest question mark for Miami
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 2: is who's your quarterback next year?
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 4: Who are they going to have? They're losing almost like
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 4: a lot of people measuging.
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 2: I haven't seen a whole lot like I hope of
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 2: Miami fans watching this right now, being like, because I'm
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 2: not familiar with what their transferportal looks like right now.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 2: So if somebody in the comments can let me know,
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 2: that'd be awesome, because it seems like those are the
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 2: two clearest passes. Also, do we keep forgetting in the
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 2: a SEC who's running who's run that for twelve years?
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 2: And that's Clemson.
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 4: They're losing they don't have a quarterback.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think it's so easy for us to like, oh,
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 2: Clemson had a bad year when they have had expectations
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 2: to like win the a SEC. Probably be in the
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 2: position Miami's in right now to be like, okay, they're done,
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 2: and it's like dabbo regardless of what you know, JP's
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 2: biases flood under us. He's a good coach and so
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 2: there there is that, like there is Miami and then
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 2: also Florida State, and there's also Clemson. So you don't know. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 2: but I think they I think, uh, Texas Tech for sure.
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 2: I love the idea Texas Tech. Let's hit another one,
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 2: just hit another. I gotta pee real bad.
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: But yeah, okay, So doctor Boozler is Indiana story the
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: best story in all of sports. If they win, I'm
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: thinking so hashtag to your talk, I feel like we
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: broke that down. I would be fully on board doctor
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: with Doctor Boozler.
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think a documentary comes out immediately followed by
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 2: a major motion picture.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: Doctor Steve here. Who is Matt Ryan going to select
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: as the next head coach for the Atlanta Falcons? Hashtag
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 1: to your talk, This is r s D.
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 2: Four four four four on X. Not not a real doctor,
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 2: more of a dentist. Yeah. I don't know. I'm not
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 2: I'm not savvy in the NFL head coach market. I
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 2: know that horror ball is in there, and if lafor
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 2: goes in. Apparently he's number one. Now, Yeah, that's what
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 2: I don't have a full pulse on the coachingacter. I
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 2: know Matt Naggi is getting a lot of looks. Kevin
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 2: Kevin Stefanski, John har Arthur Smith is in that Robert Sawa.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 2: Everyone seems like he's gonna get another shot at it.
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 2: Uh Kubiak, Like, there's a lot of great names out.
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 2: Get Kubiak, Go get Kubiak. Well are you if you're
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 2: Kubiak and you're an offensive minded coach, do you want
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 2: to go take the Atlanta Falcon's job with fair? Yeah?
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 2: You can't put together two good knees between your two quarterbacks? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's very fair. No disrespect to the boys. Like there's
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 2: been a lot of injuries.
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  Speaker 5: There's been rumors. I don't know if you'll have heard
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  Speaker 5: anything about Kirby Smart want to maybe flirt with the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I see, I saw Ryan Day, Kirby Smart and
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 2: also Uh Sarkisian are all like very interested in the
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 2: NFL because there's I'm big on the Twitter spaces, my
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 2: Michigan Twitter spaces right now, and the lore behind it
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 2: is like something's going on behind closed doors at Ohio State,
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 2: and someone tweeted that and then pulled a like from
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 2: a couple of Ohio State players liking that tweet, which
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 2: is adding to the allegendness of Ryan Day head head
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 2: of the NFL. I obviously want to beat Ohio States
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 2: asks every single year. I think it is a catastrophic
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  Speaker 2: move for Ryan Day. I think he could be successful
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 2: in the NFL. But I think bro, like, you're going
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 2: to be on a top five program every year. Like
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 2: you guys. You guys have money, you have the recruiting classes,
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 2: whide receivers, think wide receiver, you like, grass isn't always greener.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what the payscale is for coaches in
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 4: the NFL, but I feel like you can make a
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 4: ship ton more money as a coach in college because
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 4: I feel like I think Kirby Day and like I
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 4: think Sark, they may be close to like that tens
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 4: of millions per year.
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  Speaker 2: They're both I think they're both above twelve. I could
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  Speaker 2: see it.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like that's way more money than you'd be
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  Speaker 4: making as an NFL coach. I don't know, I could
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  Speaker 4: be wrong.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know either, I really don't. I just feel
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  Speaker 2: like the ambition. I can see that from coach Day,
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  Speaker 2: Like he's a younger guy in the game, right, Like
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 2: it isn't Ohio State his first like head coaching job.
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah he was, he was there.
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  Speaker 4: I think he has a minute. I don't know if
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 4: he was ever Yeah, but he.
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  Speaker 2: He came over and Urban Maye. He was like head
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 2: coaching waiting with erb Meyer.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a big you know, it's in his
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: big job right nar as his own journey and everything else.
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: I could see him wanting to jump to the NFL.
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 2: But to go off of those three names Kirby Smart,
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 2: Ryan Day, and Sark, the three names that I've heard
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 2: that you were just talking about. I think if anyone
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 2: is going to try to take that step, Sark totally.
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 2: He's the guy. Kirby like, Bro, you're gonna have a statue. Ryan,
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 2: You're gonna have a statue like you guys have got that.
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 2: Sark is still in the He always has great teams
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 2: and he's always he's I think he's a phenomenal head coach.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 2: But he hasn't won the national championship. There's box. He
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 2: hasn't checks that these two guys have. It's like Bro
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 2: don't try to be a guy that does everything. I
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 2: would sit with them in a room and be like,
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 2: you don't need to do all this, Like this is
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 2: the perfect world for you to stay in, because you
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 2: could be in the arguments with the Kurtzignettes and the
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 2: Nick Sabans. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 1: Or here's a tear talk right here. Andrew Douglas at
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 1: Dougie twenty four to twenty four twoos A nineteen LSU
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 1: vers twenty twenty five Indiana. Who you taking and why?
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 1: I will say, I think it's a little bizarre thinking
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 1: that this in a football team's the greatest football team
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: of all time? Have you seen the win by point differential? Yeah,
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 1: Indiana has more. He has a higher point differential win
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 1: than the two.
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 4: Indiana's average win is like thirty one points, and I
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 4: think LSU's was like twenty six.
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, something like that. Like there are that we now
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 2: have enough of a sample size because it was also, Hey,
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 2: LSU beat five top ten teams blah blah blah bah
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 2: teamin nat Championship and now Indiana has also done that.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 2: And in this world we live in, anybody who wins
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 2: the national Championship will beat five top ten teams, you know.
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  Speaker 5: And the twenty nineteen LSU team. I think the only
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 5: metric that really brought down their average on that was
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 5: the Texas game, their season opener, where they won by
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 5: like two points.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, bro, we're talking Joe Burrow, I know,
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 2: mar Justin Jefferson. This this question last week was not
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 2: near as interesting to me as it is this week.
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 2: And I'm sure based on what I think how the
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 2: nat Championships can go, it's gonna get a lot more
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 2: interesting at the end of this week.
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 4: Now, the teams that next week, the teams that that
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 4: LSU team played like there their game against Alabama, Like
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 4: you look at that game, I think there's twenty NFL
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 4: starters who played in that game, like playing in the
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 4: SEC back then before the Big Ten is taken over
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 4: these last before I think is I think it's not.
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 4: It's not apples to apples, dude.
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 2: I don't don't disagree with you, but when you use
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 2: the argument of this Alabama team had this many drafted guys,
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 2: that's where I fall back on. If I'm going to
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 2: fight for Indiana, it's like, well, we have to see
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 2: how many Alabama guys that they just bet by their
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 2: biggest loss since two thousand and whatever. How many of
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 2: those guys get drafted.
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 4: You know, because Indiana's playing like Purdue, they're playing Maryland,
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 4: They're playing Oh, you're we're all on the same We're
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 4: on the same boat.
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 2: But I wouldn't use Indiana and Maryland. You guys speak
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 2: for yourselves. I'm not in the same boat as you guys.
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 2: I do think Big Ten it's like hard stop, they're
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 2: the best conference. Yeah, but I'm if they win the
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 2: next championship again. Three the last three national championships have
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 2: all been Big ten, and they've all been by different teams.
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 2: I wonder what the other stat on that is. And
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 2: I know, like the little little biasness I'm just saying,
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 2: like that is clearly to me, Like right now, Big
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 2: ten runs College Football Tour. I think so much so
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 2: that next year we see the top twenty five will
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 2: start to shift that a little bit. Because the reason
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 2: why people are so heavy on the SEC is like,
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 2: look how many top twenty five teams we have preseason
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 2: and it's like okay, but you know when it all
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 2: kind of ends up, it's like these teams should have
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 2: been a weight rated higher.
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, Mitch, trying to uh talk about the
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 1: lack of opponent that indian is playing, I think is
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 1: you don't used Purdue merilyd Like in the quarterfinals last week,
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 1: Indiana was the only squad that had beaten three teams
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 1: currently left in the quarterfinal to Ohio State, which is
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 1: the best team in the country beat them in the
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 1: Big Ten Championship. Obviously, Miami just beat them. Oregon twice
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 1: killed Oregon this second time.
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 4: I'm more so saying for the point differential part, Yeah,
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 4: I'm not like, I'm just saying, Okay, That's what I'm saying,
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 4: is like that that point differential could be so high
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 4: because they're beating Perdue fifty sixty three type thing.
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm.
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 1: I'm just I guess the seat that I'm sitting in
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 1: right now, I'm not trying to already like crown them
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: in such a way to where we met. We're making
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 1: all these hypothetical arguments to where I'm almost like trying
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 1: to tear down or go against what Indiana is doing,
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: you know what i mean, Because I'm I'm enjoying watching
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 1: their sea Like when the guy's like, who's winning, I'm
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 1: thinking in my head like it's twenty nineteen l' she was, Oh,
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 1: that's crazy.
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 2: You want to hate on this Indiana team. No, I
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 2: don't think you're there. I think we need to see
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 2: the final result of this Indiana team. Yeah, you can't. Ever,
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 2: you can't guarantees Miami, I said earlier, early two thousands
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 2: Miami team. I'm thinking to myself, ninety seven Nebraska ninety
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 2: four didn't win the next ninety four ninety five than
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 2: ask a team in the nineties.
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying the ninety seven Nebraska, Okay, but just
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 1: to be clear, who won the NST CHAPI won that
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 1: National champions yep. But in all the arguments when people
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 1: argue the early two thousands of Miami team, it's always
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 1: the early twousands of Miami team in like ninety seven Nebraska.
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 1: As far as like ass beatings margin twenty nineteen LSU's
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 1: another one. They use an Alabama team.
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 2: And there's twenty eleven Alabama or something like that. Yeah,
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 2: they use Alabama those because they were nasty. I mean, yeah, yeah,
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 2: I think we need to see a rap on this,
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 2: and then there's gonna be a world where you break
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 2: it down. And I love the fact It's so crazy
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 2: how the media works, because we walked into these playoffs
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 2: being like, well, Indiana, they haven't played a whole lot
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 2: of people, it's gonna be the same thing, one and
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 2: done type of situation. And now they mop Alabama, they
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 2: beat Ohio State, they mop Alabama, and they be Who's who?
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 2: They just beat Oregon and it's like, is this the
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 2: greatest team of all time? After a month's span, we're
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 2: now like, is this the greatest team to ever walk
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  Speaker 2: the earth? So it's kind of nuts. Should we get
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