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- 0:02Speaker 1: This is the Kenny Report.
- 0:06Speaker 2: Thanks for joining me tonight. The COVID hangover as Anthony
- 0:09Speaker 2: Fauci faces Congress and the Wuhan deniers in this country
- 0:13Speaker 2: are exposed. Alexander Downer will join me. I'll have more
- 0:17Speaker 2: on that boy George song and the hatred coming his way.
- 0:21Speaker 2: Also the executions in Iran. On what comes next. Iranian
- 0:25Speaker 2: Australian tenor kurd Astrami joins me live. The Commonwealth Games
- 0:30Speaker 2: are a gold rush for Australia. I'm going to get
- 0:32Speaker 2: Robbo's view on all of that. And in the national Cabinet, well,
- 0:35Speaker 2: we're struggling for a coorum. Mark Nicholson might have to
- 0:38Speaker 2: sign up for some extra ministries. Let's get cracking. Let's
- 0:45Speaker 2: start with the pandemic, that horrible COVID nineteen pandemic and
- 0:49Speaker 2: the way the overreaction by governments, state and federal change
- 0:53Speaker 2: this country forever. This plays directly into the current political
- 0:57Speaker 2: debate when I talk about the surge towards One Nation
- 1:00Speaker 2: and the key issues driving that being immigration and net zero.
- 1:05Speaker 2: The other issue that One Nation supporter has often raised
- 1:07Speaker 2: with me is the pandemic. One Nation was the only
- 1:11Speaker 2: party to stand up against the fear mongering and especially
- 1:15Speaker 2: the vaccine mandates. The other way this plays into the
- 1:18Speaker 2: debate today is economics. One of the main reasons, perhaps
- 1:22Speaker 2: the number one reason we face an inflation crisis today,
- 1:26Speaker 2: is the unprecedented levels of government spending and debt baked
- 1:30Speaker 2: into our system by state and federal governments since the
- 1:34Speaker 2: onset of the pandemic. So the pandemic matters to this day,
- 1:38Speaker 2: whether it's work from home policies, government debt, or personal freedom.
- 1:43Speaker 2: The hangover is strong. And as we've touched on, the
- 1:46Speaker 2: release of Anthony Fauci's diaries and the US has reignited
- 1:49Speaker 2: debate about the origins of the virus. Fauci headed up
- 1:53Speaker 2: the Center for Disease Control in the US and publicly
- 1:57Speaker 2: dissed the lablique theory, pushing the bats in the market story,
- 2:03Speaker 2: But his diaries show there were clear differences between what
- 2:06Speaker 2: Fauci knew and what he said.
- 2:09Speaker 3: Senator Paul and doctor Fauci, as you know, they've had
- 2:13Speaker 3: this long disagreement over the origins of COVID and whether
- 2:15Speaker 3: it came from the Wuhan lab or a wet market,
- 2:18Speaker 3: and the Senator points to this diary entry from January
- 2:21Speaker 3: twenty twenty, Fauchi writes, now we know the market was
- 2:25Speaker 3: not the source. It was the amplifier, having said that
- 2:28Speaker 3: somewhere the virus jumped from animals to humans. But here's
- 2:32Speaker 3: what Fauci told Fox and Friends a few months later.
- 2:36Speaker 4: Are you calling for the closure of the wet markets?
- 2:39Speaker 5: I think, y'all you should shut down those things right away.
- 2:42Speaker 5: I mean, it just it boggles my mind how when
- 2:46Speaker 5: we have so many diseases that emanate out of that
- 2:49Speaker 5: unusual human animal interface, that we don't just shut it down.
- 2:54Speaker 5: What we're going through right now is a direct result
- 2:58Speaker 5: of that.
- 3:00Speaker 2: Fraud. And as you know, on this program, I pointed
- 3:03Speaker 2: to the likely origins of the virus right from the start,
- 3:06Speaker 2: way back in the first quarter of twenty twenty, before
- 3:09Speaker 2: we even saw the worst of the lockdowns. Of course,
- 3:11Speaker 2: it was clear on publicly available evidence that the virus
- 3:15Speaker 2: likely came from the wu Han Institute of Virology. But
- 3:19Speaker 2: as the evidence mounted and Donald Trump pointed to China
- 3:23Speaker 2: and my colleague Sharry Marxon broke important stories making out
- 3:26Speaker 2: that case, the political left and the ABC went into denial.
- 3:31Speaker 2: They didn't know where the virus came from, but they
- 3:34Speaker 2: were keen to clear the Wuhan lab.
- 3:38Speaker 4: We also think Marxston should have told readers that almost
- 3:40Speaker 4: every virus expert had dismissed the lab escape theory.
- 3:44Speaker 2: So Paul Barry and the ABC are certain the virus
- 3:47Speaker 2: did not escape a lab. Brilliant work. Perhaps they should
- 3:51Speaker 2: share their evidence because the world would like to know.
- 3:54Speaker 2: After all, this virus seems to be as contagious as
- 3:57Speaker 2: ABC group think.
- 4:00Speaker 6: The sort of barking mad nature of some of the
- 4:02Speaker 6: statements coming out of the United States on this.
- 4:05Speaker 2: Yeah, because the Trump administration is floating a laboratory angle.
- 4:09Speaker 2: That's enough for the ABC on mass apparently to reject it.
- 4:14Speaker 7: Well from wild claims about vaccines and the promotion of
- 4:17Speaker 7: unproven cures, as well as competing baseless claims about a
- 4:21Speaker 7: virus that was created in a lab and unleashed for
- 4:24Speaker 7: nefarious purposes, the pandemic has been an opportunity for misinformation
- 4:28Speaker 7: and disinformation.
- 4:30Speaker 2: We need to know, and we simply can't be sure
- 4:33Speaker 2: of where this virus came from until there's a full, independent,
- 4:37Speaker 2: transparent investigation. And the only people in the world who
- 4:40Speaker 2: reckon we don't need one of those are Jijiping and
- 4:44Speaker 2: the Beijing polyp Bureau. Oh, and also Bobca, Gareth Evans,
- 4:49Speaker 2: Laura Tingle, and Paul Barry. Yeah, they are shameless, just
- 4:54Speaker 2: shocking stuff. The ABC is biased on so many issues.
- 4:56Speaker 2: This was anti journalism of the highest order. They objected
- 5:00Speaker 2: to any investigation into the facts. They tried to shut
- 5:03Speaker 2: down Sharry Marksen for revealing in important relevant information, and
- 5:08Speaker 2: they pushed a political agenda. In cases like this, the
- 5:12Speaker 2: ABC's political bias leads them to misinformed the public about reality.
- 5:18Speaker 2: And let's come back to the here and now and
- 5:20Speaker 2: the revelations in Washington, where Fauci has faced questioning but
- 5:24Speaker 2: repeatedly hidden behind the Fifth Amendment. His longtime critic, Senator
- 5:29Speaker 2: Round Paul remains on the case.
- 5:32Speaker 8: The earliest people who got COVID were not associated with
- 5:35Speaker 8: the marketplace. The Chinese cityc was saying this in January
- 5:39Speaker 8: twenty twenty. He knew it, he told Dear Dari.
- 5:42Speaker 2: But to the public.
- 5:43Speaker 8: He commissioned this paper called Proximal Origins, and in it
- 5:47Speaker 8: they go on and on saying it's implausible that it
- 5:49Speaker 8: came from the lab.
- 5:51Speaker 2: Now this reckoning matters, The truth always matters. The world
- 5:56Speaker 2: still deserves a proper international investigation to the origins of
- 6:00Speaker 2: the virus to guard against future disasters. And in this
- 6:05Speaker 2: country we still need, we still need a full scale
- 6:09Speaker 2: royal commission to examine the horrendous lockdowns, curfews, school closures,
- 6:16Speaker 2: border blockades, vaccine mandates and wild spending that have changed
- 6:21Speaker 2: our country forever. While we're on the ABC, still no
- 6:29Speaker 2: apology from them to Gina Reinhardt for the vile and
- 6:33Speaker 2: violent comments they broadcast about her today. The e Safety Commissioner,
- 6:38Speaker 2: who has previously been happy to criticize media comments by
- 6:42Speaker 2: Donald Trump and others, well, today she chose not to
- 6:46Speaker 2: rebuke the ABC over its violent words targeting the nation's
- 6:50Speaker 2: wealthiest business woman.
- 6:52Speaker 9: This episode remains online at the moment.
- 6:55Speaker 2: Should it be taken down as it does defect.
- 6:57Speaker 10: Violence, that would be a matter for the Australian commit
- 7:00Speaker 10: Unications and Media Authority, who is the broadcasting regulator.
- 7:06Speaker 2: How very brave of her. But late today the ABC
- 7:09Speaker 2: published a statement from their contributor Kate McGinnis, whose story
- 7:14Speaker 2: generated the offense. The sense of humor featured in each
- 7:18Speaker 2: of my films on the Race around the World program
- 7:21Speaker 2: is farcical, said McGinnis in no way was it my
- 7:25Speaker 2: intention to promote violence. My writing is carturnish and always satirical. Unfortunately,
- 7:31Speaker 2: jokes do not land with everyone. Its purpose was never
- 7:35Speaker 2: to be taken literally. I apologize to anyone I've offended,
- 7:41Speaker 2: how graceless from McGinnis. No direct apology to Reinhardt the
- 7:46Speaker 2: critical person, only an indirect apology to anyone silly enough
- 7:50Speaker 2: I guess to take offense. The ABC says it supports
- 7:54Speaker 2: the statement, but has nothing further to say while its
- 7:57Speaker 2: internal onwardsman considers the matter. I seem to remember when
- 8:01Speaker 2: the ABC was quite upset about a call to put
- 8:04Speaker 2: a woman in a chaff bag and throw her into
- 8:06Speaker 2: the ocean. I don't think that was supposed to be
- 8:09Speaker 2: taken literally either. The point is this stuff is violent,
- 8:13Speaker 2: it is offensive, and it serves no purpose other than
- 8:17Speaker 2: to incite hatred. Meanwhile, let's have a look at some
- 8:21Speaker 2: more of the ABC's worker. You're funding it. Remember an
- 8:26Speaker 2: online piece today looks at whether shifting political views should
- 8:30Speaker 2: impact on romantic relationships, and wouldn't you know it, the
- 8:35Speaker 2: first example is this one. We have always both been
- 8:39Speaker 2: supportive of the ALP. However, my partner has shifted his
- 8:43Speaker 2: attention to one nation, says Mary. Obviously not her real name.
- 8:47Speaker 2: Maybe she's not a real person, Mary says. For her,
- 8:51Speaker 2: the challenge is not the policies her partner is supporting,
- 8:54Speaker 2: but what those policies represent about his deeper values. Wow,
- 9:00Speaker 2: maybe he's turned into a planet killer. The piece then
- 9:03Speaker 2: gets into some advice, some relationship advice for the people
- 9:07Speaker 2: confronting this dilemma. I mean, imagine this. Imagine to be civil,
- 9:12Speaker 2: having to be civil, or even to be caring or
- 9:15Speaker 2: loving to someone who has different views to your own. Dear,
- 9:19Speaker 2: oh dear. The staff at the ABC must find this
- 9:22Speaker 2: stuff highly challenging, but there is hope. One of the
- 9:26Speaker 2: experts says that, for example, if you have someone who
- 9:30Speaker 2: is critical of the current migration settings, it's not very
- 9:35Speaker 2: helpful to go you're critical of migration, so you must
- 9:39Speaker 2: be a racist. Wow, you can be critical of migration
- 9:43Speaker 2: settings and not be a racist. Forget relationships advice. This
- 9:49Speaker 2: expert needs to go and share this nugget with the
- 9:52Speaker 2: ABC News and Current Affairs team. It'll shake up their
- 9:55Speaker 2: worldview when it comes to relationships. They had another expert
- 10:00Speaker 2: explaining that there are limits political views could bring a
- 10:05Speaker 2: relationship to an end. This expert says, if there are differences,
- 10:10Speaker 2: sometimes they can become irreconcilable. Yeah, sometimes they're irreconcilable. Welcome
- 10:19Speaker 2: to the abccene, where it's harder to change your political
- 10:22Speaker 2: views than it is to change your gender. When I
- 10:29Speaker 2: shared boy George's new song yesterday, the song that gives
- 10:33Speaker 2: vent to the pain and the hope of Israel and
- 10:36Speaker 2: fights back against due hatred and baseless claims of genocide,
- 10:41Speaker 2: I said, and of course you knew that this would
- 10:43Speaker 2: invite a lot of hatred his way. He must have
- 10:46Speaker 2: known that as well, which is one of the reasons
- 10:48Speaker 2: Boy George deserves such admiration. There have been plenty of
- 10:52Speaker 2: people willing to attack him online, sometimes anonymously, sometimes not,
- 10:57Speaker 2: and plenty of media keen to ampre that hatred. Of course,
- 11:02Speaker 2: even a mob called Artists for Palestine UK has told
- 11:06Speaker 2: the New Arab that Boy George's political propaganda reveals a
- 11:09Speaker 2: profound lack of empathy for the immense suffering and slaughter
- 11:14Speaker 2: of Palestinians in Gaza. Well, that, of course is not true.
- 11:19Speaker 2: More to the point, that mob ignores the slaughter of
- 11:21Speaker 2: Israelis and fails to address why the war continues, and
- 11:25Speaker 2: which party that is hummus, continues to perpetuate the trauma.
- 11:31Speaker 2: Have a look at these podcasters.
- 11:34Speaker 11: Did he write that it feels like it might have
- 11:37Speaker 11: been written by Bengevie, that is, kill every.
- 11:40Speaker 4: Lost one of us.
- 11:41Speaker 11: Have you got any idea, boy, George, of the bodies
- 11:44Speaker 11: that are piled up, piled up. It's I mean, there's
- 11:51Speaker 11: not a lot more to say other than oh my god.
- 11:54Speaker 11: You know, it's just like talk about a moral dissonance.
- 11:58Speaker 2: Yeah, moral dissonance. Well, look, those people know nothing. They
- 12:02Speaker 2: just repeat memes they get from social media or the like.
- 12:06Speaker 2: They don't bother to inform themselves properly. But that's unforgivable
- 12:11Speaker 2: when you're throwing hatred like that at someone with a
- 12:14Speaker 2: more informed perspective than yours, for instance, listen to more
- 12:18Speaker 2: of them.
- 12:19Speaker 9: We seem to have even got passed. And this is
- 12:21Speaker 9: a contentious thing to say.
- 12:22Speaker 11: We seem to have even got past the idea that
- 12:24Speaker 11: if you are in a war, which he claims it's
- 12:26Speaker 11: a war not genocide, your duty bound also to take
- 12:30Speaker 11: prisoners and minimize casualties. That's part of the rules of law,
- 12:35Speaker 11: which is something as well, just hasn't done.
- 12:38Speaker 2: Where to start? Hey, the genocide claim against Israel is
- 12:42Speaker 2: a blood libel. You want to talk genocided, You want
- 12:45Speaker 2: to talk genocide, talk hummus. Hummus exists for genocide, the
- 12:51Speaker 2: genocide of Jews and Israel. That's its stated aim, it's
- 12:55Speaker 2: only goal. Humas killed hundreds of civilians, of course, but
- 13:00Speaker 2: deliberately families, the elderly, young girls, the handicapped, burned them
- 13:06Speaker 2: alive in their homes. I must took hostages, kept hostages
- 13:10Speaker 2: for two years, kept bodies for years, tortured hostages, raped hostages,
- 13:17Speaker 2: and killed hostages, including mothers and their little boys. How
- 13:23Speaker 2: can people pretend this stuff away? How can I invite
- 13:27Speaker 2: it again? And in the history of warfare, surely no
- 13:31Speaker 2: group of people could have been more easily obliterated than
- 13:34Speaker 2: the two million Palestinians crammed into Gaza. Israel's military might
- 13:40Speaker 2: is overwhelming and ranges right up to nuclear weapons. Yet
- 13:44Speaker 2: without Israel's support, the people of Gaza would have had
- 13:47Speaker 2: no water, no power, no food, and no medical supplies.
- 13:51Speaker 2: They've received all of that thanks to Israel. And instead
- 13:55Speaker 2: of carpet bombing Gaza, which would have been easier for Israel, say,
- 14:00Speaker 2: for their service personnel, and of course more effective at
- 14:05Speaker 2: getting the terrorists. Israel has dropped leaflets, made phone calls,
- 14:09Speaker 2: sent text messages, and provided safe passages for civilians to
- 14:14Speaker 2: help them get away from the combat zones, while Hummas
- 14:18Speaker 2: has tried to keep them there, and Israeli soldiers have
- 14:20Speaker 2: had to go in there, some of them losing their
- 14:23Speaker 2: own lives. The reality is the very opposite of the
- 14:26Speaker 2: biles spread by people like those podcasts. Anyway, that's where
- 14:31Speaker 2: we are. That's why boy George's moral clarity and courage
- 14:35Speaker 2: is so important. But let me add a brighter note,
- 14:39Speaker 2: a hint of sunshine when it comes to overcoming anti Semitism.
- 14:44Speaker 2: The winner of the People's Choice Award this year's Archibalds
- 14:48Speaker 2: is this stunning portrait of Jewish Australian leader Alex Rivchin
- 14:52Speaker 2: by Michael Zavros. A popular vote for a powerful portrait
- 14:57Speaker 2: of a Jewish leader painted by an artist who recently
- 15:00Speaker 2: discovered his Jewish ancestry.
- 15:04Speaker 12: Alex emerged as this very powerful leader at a time
- 15:07Speaker 12: when we needed that in our nation, and I was
- 15:11Speaker 12: very moved. So I reached out and I said, look, look,
- 15:13Speaker 12: I want to capture this somehow I want to paint
- 15:15Speaker 12: you and yeah, this is where we are.
- 15:19Speaker 2: And for the subject, this was an endorsement that might
- 15:22Speaker 2: give some comfort to his troubled community.
- 15:26Speaker 13: When we suffer, we band together. And also art has
- 15:29Speaker 13: that unique ability to elevate people, to unite people, and
- 15:34Speaker 13: to present hope. And I think that's what Michael's done.
- 15:36Speaker 13: And I really hope for my own community that has
- 15:38Speaker 13: gone through such anguish for the past nearly three years,
- 15:41Speaker 13: to see someone who's identifiably, visibly and proudly Jewish depicted
- 15:46Speaker 13: in this way and to take out the People's Award,
- 15:49Speaker 13: I hope it makes them happier.
- 15:51Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a terrific painting and well deserved and encouraging result.
- 16:00Speaker 2: The US military has launched fresh strikes on Iran after
- 16:04Speaker 2: Donald Trump threatened to hit the regim hard following yesterday's
- 16:08Speaker 2: failed attacks on US forces. Here's the latest from our
- 16:11Speaker 2: Washington correspondent Jonathan Kursley.
- 16:14Speaker 14: A day after Iran launched missiles in the direction of
- 16:17Speaker 14: US troops in Jordan, the President is giving a direction
- 16:21Speaker 14: to the Pentagon. Donald Trump angered after the recent strike.
- 16:26Speaker 8: We had five rocket shot going eighty five hundred miles
- 16:29Speaker 8: an hour, and all five rockets were knocked down to
- 16:32Speaker 8: the ground, but then nevertheless took a shot.
- 16:34Speaker 1: So it's our turn.
- 16:36Speaker 4: It was a different group than we're dealing with.
- 16:38Speaker 9: They've already apologized.
- 16:40Speaker 14: The US had already joined Saudi Arabia to retaliate in
- 16:43Speaker 14: Iraq against Iranian backed militia who launched drone attacks on
- 16:48Speaker 14: Saudi oil infrastructure. At least four people associated with the
- 16:52Speaker 14: IRGC were killed. Having paused the fighting to give diplomacy
- 16:57Speaker 14: a chance, it seems diplomacy is being paused.
- 17:02Speaker 2: Let's catch up with Australia's longest serving foreign minister. We
- 17:05Speaker 2: tend to catch up with him all around the world
- 17:06Speaker 2: and around the country. But Alexander Downer joins me in
- 17:09Speaker 2: the studio tonight. Good to see you, Alexander, a pleasure.
- 17:12Speaker 2: What do you make of this latest development? We've had
- 17:14Speaker 2: on again, off again so often from Donald Trump on around,
- 17:17Speaker 2: but this is, we understand, quite a significant strike overnight.
- 17:22Speaker 15: Yes, I think he has to do more than that.
- 17:25Speaker 15: He has to prosecute this war to the end, not
- 17:31Speaker 15: stop and start, have memoranda of understanding and so on.
- 17:36Speaker 15: And I'm sorry to say this, but I think they
- 17:38Speaker 15: will have to put boots on the ground and seize
- 17:41Speaker 15: control of the Strait of hor moves. I don't think
- 17:44Speaker 15: the Americans can achieve their objectives just from the air.
- 17:50Speaker 2: This is a critical decision, though, and this is the
- 17:53Speaker 2: one that you would have thought that Donald Trump would
- 17:55Speaker 2: want to avoid at all costs putting soldiers on the
- 17:58Speaker 2: ground there. I mean, his whole stick really has been
- 18:01Speaker 2: staying out of forever wars, and no matter how you
- 18:04Speaker 2: frame them, at the start, history tells you it's difficult
- 18:07Speaker 2: to get out.
- 18:09Speaker 15: Yeah, well that's why he's not doing it. But then
- 18:12Speaker 15: don't go to war with somebody unless you are going
- 18:17Speaker 15: to be ruthless and prosecute that war until you win.
- 18:22Speaker 15: But definitely don't go to war unless you go to
- 18:25Speaker 15: war to win, and being half hearted about it, he'll
- 18:30Speaker 15: get a half hearted result that will be seen as
- 18:33Speaker 15: a victory for the IRGC and a weakening of American power.
- 18:38Speaker 15: So I'm sorry to say this, but in the end,
- 18:41Speaker 15: he has to seize control of the Strait of Hormuz.
- 18:45Speaker 15: Then blockading the Iranian ports will ensure that the IRGC
- 18:50Speaker 15: have no source of or significant source of revenue, and
- 18:54Speaker 15: that will gradually lead to the erosion of their power.
- 18:58Speaker 15: But if if he doesn't sees control of the straight
- 19:02Speaker 15: up hor moves and just keeps area bombing going, this
- 19:06Speaker 15: will just go on forever.
- 19:08Speaker 2: He keeps talking about the prospects of a deal. Benjamin Etta,
- 19:12Speaker 2: who was in Washington this week, he might be a
- 19:15Speaker 2: bit more realistic about those prospects.
- 19:17Speaker 9: Looked, I'm skeptical about you.
- 19:20Speaker 5: Ryan's in a mode of operandus I mean the method
- 19:24Speaker 5: of operating.
- 19:25Speaker 2: They always lie, they always achieved, and they always play
- 19:29Speaker 2: for time. Yeah. Now, a lot of people say he
- 19:32Speaker 2: would say that, wouldn't he But he's right, isn't he right?
- 19:35Speaker 4: I mean, not everything he says is wrong. He's definitely
- 19:39Speaker 4: right about that.
- 19:40Speaker 15: They number one, they always play for time, and that's
- 19:44Speaker 15: the time worn strategy of the IRGC. Secondly, you can't
- 19:50Speaker 15: take their word for it, and they're very factionalized. They're
- 19:54Speaker 15: very divided amongst themselves, so who is able to speak
- 19:59Speaker 15: for them? And thirdly, this is a brutal killer regime
- 20:05Speaker 15: determined on the distraction of Israel, to retain power in Iran,
- 20:13Speaker 15: to spread Iranian path through the Middle.
- 20:16Speaker 2: East through their proxies.
- 20:19Speaker 15: I mean, what sort of deal could you ever do
- 20:21Speaker 15: with these people? I mean, in the end, you have
- 20:24Speaker 15: to weaken the regime, and weaken it to the extent
- 20:28Speaker 15: that it becomes increasingly divided and moderates take it over.
- 20:34Speaker 2: It's worth reminding people that, apart from all the horrors
- 20:37Speaker 2: it's inflicted around the world and especially in the Middle East,
- 20:41Speaker 2: this is a regime that has fueled terror in this very.
- 20:43Speaker 15: Country exactly, and not only in this country, but in
- 20:48Speaker 15: other countries as well. I mean, even the present Labor government,
- 20:53Speaker 15: which you know, it's not exactly robust in terms of
- 20:57Speaker 15: foreign policy, or for that matter, particularly active in terms
- 21:00Speaker 15: of foreign policy. Even they expelled the Iranian ambassador earlier
- 21:05Speaker 15: this year.
- 21:06Speaker 2: So quite appropriately, I want to talk more about the
- 21:10Speaker 2: hangover from COVID internationally and in Australia on the back
- 21:14Speaker 2: of what's been unfolding in the US. Let's have a
- 21:17Speaker 2: look a little bit more reporting on what's happening with
- 21:19Speaker 2: Anthony Fauci in the US. What are you going to
- 21:22Speaker 2: tell them about the diaries today?
- 21:24Speaker 4: What are you going to say about the diaries?
- 21:26Speaker 16: Lawmakers got pretty much the same response from doctor Anthony
- 21:30Speaker 16: Fauci today after he invoked his Fifth Amendment right more
- 21:33Speaker 16: than one hundred times in a Senate hearing on the
- 21:36Speaker 16: COVID nineteen pandemic.
- 21:37Speaker 17: Although it pains me to do so, under the advice
- 21:40Speaker 17: of my attorneys, I will invoke my right under the
- 21:44Speaker 17: Fifth Amendment of the Constitution to refrain from answering your questions.
- 21:50Speaker 16: That statement threw off the rest of the hearing, leaving
- 21:53Speaker 16: GOP lawmakers with zero answers about whether US funded research
- 21:57Speaker 16: in China played a role in creating the virus.
- 22:00Speaker 1: Respectfully declined to answer.
- 22:01Speaker 16: More about his diary, where Fauchi revealed at least ten
- 22:04Speaker 16: scientists supported the Lab league theory, which he publicly dismissed.
- 22:09Speaker 2: Alexander, it seems to me that Anthony Fauci has become
- 22:12Speaker 2: a media hero over the years simply because he was
- 22:15Speaker 2: seen as a counterpoint to Donald Trump, because he disagreed
- 22:18Speaker 2: with Donald Trump on Trump. But he has serious questions
- 22:21Speaker 2: to answer you that are important not just to America
- 22:23Speaker 2: but the whole world.
- 22:24Speaker 15: Well, it's as simple as this. He and his organization
- 22:29Speaker 15: had been providing funding for some of the research in
- 22:34Speaker 15: Wuhanna at the Lab, so the idea of the lab
- 22:39Speaker 15: leaking COVID was horrific from his point of view, Reputationally
- 22:45Speaker 15: hugely damaging, So he denied it. And I'd have to
- 22:50Speaker 15: say I've spent a lot of the last two years
- 22:52Speaker 15: at Stamford University. I've been very struck by the research
- 22:56Speaker 15: people have been doing there. To cut the argument short,
- 23:01Speaker 15: they are coming to the conclusion that it clearly came
- 23:05Speaker 15: from the lab, not a deliberate leak from the lab,
- 23:11Speaker 15: but an inadvertently.
- 23:13Speaker 2: Since the point they're trying verbal people on this, they
- 23:16Speaker 2: try and verbal the argument. Even Fauci himself is saying, well,
- 23:19Speaker 2: why would they put a disease out there that they
- 23:21Speaker 2: didn't even have a vaccine to themselves because they would
- 23:25Speaker 2: suffer from it as well. But that's the whole point.
- 23:27Speaker 2: They were doing the work on it and.
- 23:29Speaker 15: Accidentally, And so I reject the idea that it was deliberate. Sure, yeah,
- 23:35Speaker 15: And that's an important point to make. It was clearly
- 23:39Speaker 15: accidentally leaked. And if you look through the detail, how
- 23:43Speaker 15: improbable was it that a bat came from well a
- 23:48Speaker 15: thousand kilometers away ended up in the wu Hut market.
- 23:53Speaker 2: Just down the road from the just down the urology ladder.
- 23:58Speaker 4: It's so improbable. It's so improbable.
- 24:02Speaker 15: I mean, let me put it this way, it's obvious.
- 24:06Speaker 15: It came from the LAB. It was an inadvertent league.
- 24:10Speaker 15: It was a huge mistake. It's very unfortunate, and I
- 24:14Speaker 15: thought she would have done himself proud to fess up
- 24:17Speaker 15: instead of taking the fifth and so on.
- 24:20Speaker 2: And not only Fauci, as I mentioned at the top,
- 24:22Speaker 2: we're out of time really, but the ABC and a
- 24:25Speaker 2: lot of the rest of the global media they wanted
- 24:27Speaker 2: to deny the LAB theory too. Why because Donald Trump
- 24:30Speaker 2: supported it exactly.
- 24:32Speaker 15: That's why Laura Tingle was against the LAB theory, because
- 24:35Speaker 15: she hates Donald Trump.
- 24:36Speaker 2: It's pathetic. Thanks for joining us, Alexander the pleasure. Alexander Downer,
- 24:40Speaker 2: of course, was Australia's longest serving foreign minister. It's great
- 24:42Speaker 2: to have him on the program every week and especially
- 24:45Speaker 2: good to have him on set with me tonight. I
- 24:48Speaker 2: want to go now to Regional Victoria and catch up
- 24:50Speaker 2: with the shadow regional health Minister and Webster in Mildura.
- 24:53Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, and I want to first up
- 24:57Speaker 2: ask you about some trouble on the other side on
- 24:59Speaker 2: the government's with the Luke Gosling facing charges now for
- 25:04Speaker 2: allegedly assaulting the administrator, effectively the governor of the Northern Territory.
- 25:09Speaker 10: Your response, well, you know this is now before the police.
- 25:16Speaker 10: They are doing their investigations. It may or may not
- 25:18Speaker 10: go to court, so we have to watch and see.
- 25:22Speaker 10: I think, Chris, the big question is what is the
- 25:25Speaker 10: Prime Minister doing about this. Mister Gosling has a role
- 25:30Speaker 10: as a special envoy, you know, he really ought to
- 25:33Speaker 10: be the Prime Minister ought to be calling Luke to
- 25:37Speaker 10: step down while this whole process goes through the channels
- 25:42Speaker 10: and the processes that it needs to do. I mean,
- 25:45Speaker 10: that's just you know, it's really a test of the
- 25:48Speaker 10: Prime Minister's leadership. That's the real issue.
- 25:51Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no doubt you would have thought that you
- 25:53Speaker 2: would stand someone aside while they're while they're from any
- 25:57Speaker 2: ministerial duties, any front bench duties, significant duties, while they're
- 26:01Speaker 2: facing a charge like this. Of course, Luke Gosling denies
- 26:05Speaker 2: the allegations. He pleads his innocence and he's been on
- 26:09Speaker 2: the record on that with our own with our own
- 26:13Speaker 2: Matt Cunningham. When was this earlier this month. Let's have
- 26:15Speaker 2: a look, hey, Luke, were running with the administrator on
- 26:19Speaker 2: the weekend we gave Yeah, you didn't wake.
- 26:25Speaker 9: You didn't have a running with him.
- 26:28Speaker 2: There you go, Federal Labor MP Luke Gosling. The allegation
- 26:32Speaker 2: is an assault with the administration. The administrator effectively the
- 26:36Speaker 2: governor of the Northern Territory talk about the separation of powers.
- 26:39Speaker 2: This one stretches the limits, doesn't it. Let's move on
- 26:42Speaker 2: though to other issues. And and I want to ask
- 26:44Speaker 2: you about this proposal that's getting a lot of attention
- 26:47Speaker 2: from Pauline Hanson in one Nation to put up laws
- 26:49Speaker 2: that would make it harder for ISIS brides and ISIS
- 26:53Speaker 2: fighters to come back into this country. To me, this
- 26:58Speaker 2: hardly deserves any attention at all, right because one nation
- 27:01Speaker 2: and not going to get a private member's build up.
- 27:03Speaker 2: It's hardly going to get debated. Let loan pass through Parliament.
- 27:07Speaker 2: It's a it's just an idea.
- 27:11Speaker 10: Well, the fact of the matter is that the whole
- 27:15Speaker 10: isis returned to Australia have honestly been given the red
- 27:21Speaker 10: carpet by the Labor government. They're the ones that we
- 27:24Speaker 10: should be holding to account for what they have done
- 27:27Speaker 10: or not done. There's no transparency about it. One nation
- 27:32Speaker 10: have put up a policy, great, that's good, but it
- 27:35Speaker 10: needs to go through proper parliamentary processes, including probably a
- 27:39Speaker 10: Senate committee.
- 27:40Speaker 2: But yeah, you're right.
- 27:42Speaker 10: Is it going to pass through the channels while Labor
- 27:45Speaker 10: is in control? I don't think so. Meanwhile, the Coalition
- 27:49Speaker 10: has of course already been working on these policies to
- 27:52Speaker 10: ensure that Australia Australians are kept safe. We should not
- 27:57Speaker 10: be having returned fighters, rors, brides of the whole thing.
- 28:02Speaker 10: I mean, it's just it's outrageous. I think if we
- 28:05Speaker 10: look back on this year, we will be asking ourselves
- 28:10Speaker 10: why on earth did this happen?
- 28:12Speaker 2: Yeah, I think what is clear here, and this is
- 28:15Speaker 2: very much on the government. It's very clear as the
- 28:18Speaker 2: Coalition has pointed out that the Government could have and
- 28:21Speaker 2: should have done more to stop or at least delay
- 28:25Speaker 2: many of these people returning to Australia. And secondly, the
- 28:28Speaker 2: Coalition has said, let's sit down, we'll come up with
- 28:31Speaker 2: some bipartisan laws to make this more difficult in the
- 28:35Speaker 2: future or perhaps keep people out permanently, and of course
- 28:38Speaker 2: the Government haven't taken them up on that. So I
- 28:41Speaker 2: think you're right. The focus has to be on the
- 28:43Speaker 2: government and the way they've handled this, rather than all
- 28:46Speaker 2: the excitement about a one nation option just before I
- 28:50Speaker 2: let you go, though, and I'm pretty keen to get
- 28:52Speaker 2: your thoughts on the ABC refusing to apologize to Gina Reinhardt.
- 28:57Speaker 2: I just find this astounding that they can't bring it them,
- 29:01Speaker 2: bring themselves Hugh Marx or Kim Williams at the leadership
- 29:04Speaker 2: of the ABC to say no, this is offensive, this
- 29:08Speaker 2: goes too far. This warrants a direct apology from the
- 29:12Speaker 2: ABC to Gina Einhart.
- 29:16Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 29:17Speaker 10: Well, I mean, I've been reading the commentary today in
- 29:21Speaker 10: between meeting a lot of my constituents about this case
- 29:25Speaker 10: and about their comments that have said, well, ABC holds
- 29:32Speaker 10: themselves apparently to very high standards. Well, you know what,
- 29:36Speaker 10: it's not evident that they do. And they have one
- 29:40Speaker 10: standard for some women and another standard for other women,
- 29:45Speaker 10: and their bias continues to be exposed on pretty well
- 29:49Speaker 10: any issue that they choose to report. On the fact
- 29:53Speaker 10: that they actually had that video go through their production team,
- 29:58Speaker 10: producers accepted editors said, yep, let's put this to air
- 30:03Speaker 10: is frankly astounding.
- 30:05Speaker 2: Yeah, unbelievable. Thanks for joining us in and Webster. They're
- 30:09Speaker 2: joining us from Mildura in Victoria's sun Rasia district. We've
- 30:12Speaker 2: got to get to a break on the other side.
- 30:13Speaker 2: I only go back to the situation in Iran and
- 30:17Speaker 2: catch up with Iranian Australian spokesperson Tina court Astrami. Following
- 30:21Speaker 2: those executions in the past couple of days don't go away.
- 30:29Speaker 2: There are new and disturbing reports out of Iran that
- 30:31Speaker 2: prisoners have gone on hunger strikes and sown their lips shut.
- 30:35Speaker 2: As the public executions of dissidents have occurred, the executions
- 30:40Speaker 2: in the Islamic Republic of Iran have not attracted as
- 30:43Speaker 2: much media coverage as they deserve. Of course, the barbarity
- 30:47Speaker 2: of this regime, the regime behind all of the terrorism
- 30:50Speaker 2: and missile attacks on Israel, doesn't seem to fit with
- 30:53Speaker 2: the media zeitgeist. But some of the horror within Iran
- 30:57Speaker 2: has escaped, including icatures of one of the young dissonants.
- 31:02Speaker 2: Now I'm about to show you these pictures, and I've
- 31:04Speaker 2: got to warn you they are disturbing. One of the
- 31:06Speaker 2: young dissidents showing the brave young man signaling defiance to
- 31:12Speaker 2: the crowds in the city of if Shahan two days ago.
- 31:16Speaker 2: Before his executioners placed a black hood over his face, yeah,
- 31:32Speaker 2: we won't show you any more of that horror. It's
- 31:34Speaker 2: obvious what followed, but that barbarity and the apparent opposition
- 31:39Speaker 2: from the crowds is all we know about what's happening
- 31:43Speaker 2: in Iran at the moment. So let me bring in
- 31:45Speaker 2: Australian Iranian activist Tina Kordrastami, who has been here a
- 31:49Speaker 2: number of times. Good to see you again, Tina. Those
- 31:53Speaker 2: pictures coming out of Iran. It's so good that we're
- 31:58Speaker 2: getting some sense of what's going on there, but it
- 32:01Speaker 2: must be so confronting and disheartening. Share your thoughts with
- 32:04Speaker 2: us first.
- 32:04Speaker 18: App well, finally we're having some obvious, you know, pieces
- 32:10Speaker 18: of evidence that we can share with the West because
- 32:12Speaker 18: time and time again we've been questioned with the information
- 32:15Speaker 18: that we are sharing. So showing these videos it's painful,
- 32:20Speaker 18: but it speaks for everything we've been talking about for
- 32:23Speaker 18: the last few months. What we just saw right now,
- 32:27Speaker 18: there was a protest because of those executions, and about
- 32:30Speaker 18: three hundred people were taken into custody, two hundred were injured.
- 32:35Speaker 18: There's another four executions coming up in Esfahan as well.
- 32:40Speaker 18: As you mentioned, there's a hunger strike going on within
- 32:43Speaker 18: one of our as has prisons. These individuals. They they are,
- 32:51Speaker 18: you know, substance abusers. They haven't gone out killing anyone
- 32:55Speaker 18: or anything of the sort, and they will all be
- 32:58Speaker 18: facing execution. But even the individuals who are facing execution
- 33:04Speaker 18: that may have killed an officer, which is what they're
- 33:08Speaker 18: being accused of. Why is it that suddenly in the
- 33:11Speaker 18: West we are now supportive of an execution. Why is
- 33:15Speaker 18: it that we don't show any outrage anymore to this
- 33:18Speaker 18: barbaric method of dealing with the law.
- 33:23Speaker 2: Well, it is barbaric. It's done in public, it's advertised,
- 33:27Speaker 2: and they lift people by their necks in the street.
- 33:31Speaker 2: It's absolutely horrific. Obviously done that way for a purpose,
- 33:36Speaker 2: and that is to intimidate the population. But we are
- 33:39Speaker 2: seeing people, as you say, going there and protesting, and
- 33:42Speaker 2: even people signaling and defiantly to the protesters as they're
- 33:47Speaker 2: about to be executed. What does that tell you about
- 33:50Speaker 2: the level of any resistance in Iran at the moment?
- 33:54Speaker 18: It just goes to show people are willing to die
- 33:57Speaker 18: for this regime to be Overfron about us in a
- 34:01Speaker 18: diaspora coming out and saying, oh, we just want to
- 34:03Speaker 18: go back home. One day. So please believe us when
- 34:06Speaker 18: we say that people are willing to give their lives
- 34:08Speaker 18: to overthrow this regime. Not these people are risking their safety,
- 34:13Speaker 18: their livelihood every single day. And we're now finally seeing
- 34:17Speaker 18: these videos and photos, we're seeing the evidence for this.
- 34:21Speaker 18: It's again, it's disheartening, it really breaks your heart, but
- 34:27Speaker 18: it is the reality of the situation, and this is
- 34:29Speaker 18: how the regime regains control right now. It has no
- 34:33Speaker 18: other methods of showing the world, sending a message to
- 34:36Speaker 18: the world that we are still in control, other than
- 34:38Speaker 18: killing its own people. And so when you ask me
- 34:41Speaker 18: earlier this year, what do you think about the negotiations
- 34:44Speaker 18: taking place? Why would you negotiate with a regime who
- 34:48Speaker 18: hates its own people, who is killing its own people.
- 34:51Speaker 18: To what end will these negotiations lead us anywhere in
- 34:57Speaker 18: a diplomatic sense?
- 34:59Speaker 2: So, in summary, are you and others both in the
- 35:02Speaker 2: Australian Iranian community and what you're hearing from Iran glad
- 35:07Speaker 2: that America is doubling down on its attacks, even though
- 35:09Speaker 2: that must be adding to the suffering for at least
- 35:12Speaker 2: some Iranians.
- 35:13Speaker 18: I will not speak for Iranians as a whole. We
- 35:17Speaker 18: have so many different opinions. We're in a diastora within
- 35:19Speaker 18: Iran as well. But people within Iran, I've said this
- 35:25Speaker 18: time and time again, they need help. Having diplomatic relations
- 35:29Speaker 18: with this regime is not going to assist and we
- 35:34Speaker 18: do need to see a lot of aid provider to
- 35:37Speaker 18: the people within Iran so that they can overthrow the
- 35:40Speaker 18: regime themselves.
- 35:41Speaker 2: Tina, thanks for joining us again. I appreciate it. Thanks
- 35:44Speaker 2: tedder Cord Austromi. They're leading member of the Australian Iranian community.
- 35:48Speaker 2: After the break, we're going to lighten things up a bit.
- 35:50Speaker 2: We're going to check in on sport. The Commonwalth Games
- 35:53Speaker 2: of course, are a gold rush for Australia. We'll get
- 35:55Speaker 2: Robbo's view, great stuff and eleven more golds for the
- 36:03Speaker 2: Aussies on the sixth day of action in Glasgow. Is
- 36:08Speaker 2: the latest news in sport. Most of the winners coming
- 36:11Speaker 2: from the swimming pool. Of course, we always start well
- 36:13Speaker 2: with the swimming. Australia's reached forty seven gold medals, now
- 36:17Speaker 2: more than the next four nations combined. Here's the latest
- 36:20Speaker 2: from Fox Sports News.
- 36:22Speaker 19: The final day of swimming in Glasgow. It's the dolphins
- 36:25Speaker 19: last chance for gold.
- 36:27Speaker 9: He's won this event. Kite Taylor out of lane.
- 36:30Speaker 19: One, Kye Taylor, sending coach Dean box All into another
- 36:33Speaker 19: frenzy after the two hundred meter free. Mum Hayley Lewis
- 36:37Speaker 19: also bringing the vibes. There were tears two Australia's women
- 36:42Speaker 19: filling the podium in the fifty meter free, Meg Harris
- 36:45Speaker 19: for gold in Shana Jack's last swim before retirement and
- 36:49Speaker 19: Shana's final bow is booz.
- 36:52Speaker 2: I just hope, my god.
- 36:53Speaker 14: I'm too proud and I have everyone at home.
- 36:55Speaker 2: He's part of everything. I'm done.
- 36:56Speaker 19: A green and gold podium in the men's fifty fly too,
- 37:00Speaker 19: including two on the top steps after Kyle Chalmers and
- 37:03Speaker 19: Ben Brewster couldn't be split.
- 37:07Speaker 9: It's a dead hate.
- 37:09Speaker 2: Let's catch up with sports broadcaster Mark Robinson in Victoria.
- 37:13Speaker 2: Good to talk to you, Robbo. I'll tell you what
- 37:15Speaker 2: It would have been a lot simpler to have these
- 37:17Speaker 2: games in regional Victoria because then they could have just
- 37:19Speaker 2: dug up all the gold in Bendigo and Ballarat and
- 37:22Speaker 2: handed it over rather than shipping it halfway across the world.
- 37:26Speaker 9: It's been magnifause, it really has.
- 37:27Speaker 6: I mean what sh hissed me if it is that
- 37:29Speaker 6: people talk down the Commonwealth Games and I don't, and
- 37:34Speaker 6: I think their achievements, it takes years and years to qualify,
- 37:37Speaker 6: and their strength and skill to get on the.
- 37:40Speaker 9: Podium and let alone that and win goal.
- 37:42Speaker 6: Thirty seven of the forty five goal has come from
- 37:45Speaker 6: the swimming pool.
- 37:46Speaker 9: It's been an absolute slaughter.
- 37:49Speaker 6: I caught up with a couple of hours of this
- 37:50Speaker 6: afternoon just watching the replays and yeah, the four by
- 37:55Speaker 6: one medley and I mean Taylor, Hi, Taylor.
- 38:02Speaker 9: It's just fantastic.
- 38:03Speaker 6: And to listen to them all speak after the event
- 38:06Speaker 6: and the joy and the keys and the happiness. You know,
- 38:09Speaker 6: I always talk to you about how patriotic we get
- 38:12Speaker 6: behind sports events, Christopher and and and I think this
- 38:16Speaker 6: has been a fantastic con We're gone, but they're in
- 38:20Speaker 6: Scotland and not here in Victoria.
- 38:22Speaker 9: Yeah.
- 38:22Speaker 2: I like the way the Paralympics are just in the program,
- 38:25Speaker 2: or the Para Games are in in the program as well,
- 38:28Speaker 2: not not separate, so it's all happening at the one time.
- 38:30Speaker 2: I just want to go and show you Tally that
- 38:33Speaker 2: The Queensland Premier David chrisp fully shared no doubt, plenty
- 38:37Speaker 2: of people have been sharing it in Queensland. It's a
- 38:40Speaker 2: few days old, this one, but he does the he
- 38:42Speaker 2: does the middle tally by state and at this that's
- 38:45Speaker 2: that stage. I don't know if they're still there. Queensland
- 38:47Speaker 2: as a state was leading the tally ahead of England
- 38:51Speaker 2: and of course Canada as well, which is which is
- 38:53Speaker 2: kind of hilarious. But I don't know quite where they're
- 38:56Speaker 2: at now. Maybe Victoria has taken the lead.
- 39:02Speaker 6: Two things to that, Queenslanders, they've got sunshow on your year,
- 39:06Speaker 6: round mate. And the second there I can say is
- 39:09Speaker 6: Victoria's running last and just about everything else so we
- 39:12Speaker 6: might as are just throwing the Commonwealth Games swimming.
- 39:15Speaker 2: I want to go to a couple of aspects of
- 39:18Speaker 2: the Games. One of them is Lachlan Kennedy's silver medal.
- 39:22Speaker 2: It just pipped at the post. A brilliant run though,
- 39:26Speaker 2: and the fastest run ever by an Australian man. That's
- 39:30Speaker 2: something a new Australian record. And you know, I don't
- 39:34Speaker 2: like the identity politics, but it's worth saying when it
- 39:36Speaker 2: comes to the sprint events, this is the fastest one
- 39:39Speaker 2: hundred meters ever run by a man not of African
- 39:43Speaker 2: descent by a white man.
- 39:45Speaker 6: Well, no, no, that's not that's that's a fact. I mean,
- 39:48Speaker 6: let's not quival about that.
- 39:50Speaker 2: Yeah, it's impertinent in this sport, isn't it an amazing
- 39:54Speaker 2: effort by the Aussie I actually thought.
- 39:56Speaker 9: He had won. Watching it, I thought he had won,
- 39:58Speaker 9: and to be honest, I was appointed.
- 40:00Speaker 6: But then you think, now you're second in the Commonwealth bag,
- 40:02Speaker 6: get too disappointed.
- 40:03Speaker 9: But to be the first point man, absolutely we all know.
- 40:09Speaker 9: I mean we look at the.
- 40:10Speaker 6: Olympic Games, the Comonwealth Games, the first black men in
- 40:15Speaker 6: the world.
- 40:15Speaker 9: They've dominated for so long.
- 40:17Speaker 6: So for Kennedy to be up there in that in
- 40:20Speaker 6: that company, it's just awesome for him, and it's awesome
- 40:23Speaker 6: for Australia.
- 40:25Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 40:25Speaker 2: Now there's there's another incident. I'm going to show a
- 40:27Speaker 2: great This is quite incredible because as a bloker used
- 40:30Speaker 2: to race for Australia Matt Richardson, but he was born
- 40:33Speaker 2: in England, so he's switched back to England. He was
- 40:36Speaker 2: going to be heading to the Commonwealth Games for the
- 40:40Speaker 2: cycling but he was just finishing off an event in
- 40:43Speaker 2: Japan earlier this week. And have a look what happened.
- 40:47Speaker 20: Matt Richardson has been over in Japan racing. That was
- 40:50Speaker 20: him in the yellow and him being taken out. I
- 40:53Speaker 20: mean he is absolutely taken out here in motor racing terms,
- 40:58Speaker 20: that's t bones right. He's been taken up by a
- 41:00Speaker 20: fellow competitor, which no one wants to see that.
- 41:04Speaker 2: That's appalling unreally and Nausie rules terms. He was shirt
- 41:08Speaker 2: fronted off the ball.
- 41:10Speaker 9: Yeah, well that does look terrible.
- 41:12Speaker 6: I'm just so rapped for everybody that it didn't have
- 41:15Speaker 6: at the at the Games. And it was an Australian
- 41:19Speaker 6: writer who wrote into him because there'd be accusations flying everywhere.
- 41:24Speaker 6: But that said, that looked disgraceful, as aid commentator said,
- 41:27Speaker 6: then that looked beyond unsportsman's life.
- 41:31Speaker 9: That looked to me like it was targeted.
- 41:33Speaker 2: Yeah, sure looked that way. And no serious injury thankfully,
- 41:37Speaker 2: but obviously pretty badly Hrbee. He could have anything could
- 41:40Speaker 2: have happened there. Just a final word on the footy
- 41:43Speaker 2: and Josh Frasier, the interim coach at Carlton. I can't
- 41:46Speaker 2: believe this is dragging on. I would have thought, given
- 41:49Speaker 2: what he's done with that club, they should either just
- 41:52Speaker 2: tell him quietly that he's got the job or that
- 41:54Speaker 2: he won't get it, so that he gets to choose
- 41:57Speaker 2: whether he just moves on or the job. He shouldn't
- 42:00Speaker 2: have to go through a process, should he?
- 42:03Speaker 9: Very astute chriss and know I love your footage. Now
- 42:06Speaker 9: I agree.
- 42:07Speaker 6: I mean the other three going for I think Kelly
- 42:11Speaker 6: Graham and Corey enright. I mean, there are assistant coaches.
- 42:14Speaker 6: This guy was an assistant coach. Now he's got the
- 42:16Speaker 6: main set seat. He's won seven and lost two. I
- 42:21Speaker 6: can't believe that he's not the raging favorite for the job.
- 42:25Speaker 6: Now he says the thing is a little bit not concerning.
- 42:29Speaker 9: It keeps saying I don't know if I'm ready. I've
- 42:31Speaker 9: done know if I'm ready.
- 42:32Speaker 6: But he's now hinting, I think, hinting that he will
- 42:36Speaker 6: go for the job.
- 42:37Speaker 9: And if he does go for the job, I think
- 42:39Speaker 9: he should get it.
- 42:40Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with your Robert. I'm with you, no doubt
- 42:42Speaker 2: about that. Thanks for joining us, mate, I'll catch you
- 42:45Speaker 2: next week, Mark Robins. There all over the sport plenty
- 42:49Speaker 2: happening all the time, and we better take a break.
- 42:51Speaker 2: On the other side, we've got to just half of
- 42:53Speaker 2: the National Cabinety, and I wonder if Mark Nicholson has
- 42:57Speaker 2: signed himself up for some secret minutes. I'll find out
- 43:01Speaker 2: after the break on Thursdays, of course, we wrap up
- 43:09Speaker 2: the week with National Cabinet. Mark Nicholson joins us from
- 43:12Speaker 2: step Make Studios in Melbourne, but Mark tim Blairs away today,
- 43:16Speaker 2: So I'm wondering whether you might have secretly had yourself
- 43:19Speaker 2: sworn into all of his portfolios.
- 43:23Speaker 4: That's right, mate, I've pulled a scow ma.
- 43:24Speaker 21: Mate, I've signed myself up for every ministry in the
- 43:27Speaker 21: National Cabinet, excluding yours, of course, my fearless leader.
- 43:30Speaker 4: We're going to get out there, We're going to This
- 43:32Speaker 4: is all new.
- 43:33Speaker 21: This my first time on News twenty four as well.
- 43:35Speaker 21: This is so much change. I'm not used to so
- 43:37Speaker 21: much change. I'm here in Victoria.
- 43:39Speaker 2: So many numbers, this.
- 43:40Speaker 21: Sort of change down here in Victoria very often.
- 43:42Speaker 2: So many numbers in that name News twenty four tell
- 43:44Speaker 2: us how different things are in Victoria now that you
- 43:47Speaker 2: have Ben Carroll as premium.
- 43:52Speaker 21: Oh mate, it's fundamentally different down here, isn't it. I'm
- 43:56Speaker 21: these people they tout change all the time, and they
- 43:58Speaker 21: throw this word around change all the time. But the
- 44:00Speaker 21: only thing that changes is their position. The only thing
- 44:03Speaker 21: that changes is their circumstances. That's all that that's all
- 44:06Speaker 21: that ever changes. It's the same, same, same, all the time.
- 44:10Speaker 21: I'm pretty sure, Ben Carroll. If you look at him,
- 44:12Speaker 21: he kind of looks like just Cinta Allen in a suit,
- 44:15Speaker 21: kind of looked like Dan Andrews in a skirt.
- 44:18Speaker 4: It's all the same. It's always the same.
- 44:22Speaker 2: Now, I want to run you through some of the
- 44:23Speaker 2: things he's had to say to get your thoughts on it.
- 44:25Speaker 2: Here he is on the working from home. I want
- 44:28Speaker 2: to be crystal clear.
- 44:29Speaker 6: Work from home does work for families.
- 44:31Speaker 20: And now it will go through that parliamentary process and
- 44:34Speaker 20: we will consider anything that he's sensible.
- 44:39Speaker 2: Fair enough. Apparently just in there Allen's working from home.
- 44:41Speaker 2: She hasn't just fronted up at Parliament this week.
- 44:46Speaker 21: She's definitely working from home or barely working from home,
- 44:49Speaker 21: like most people that are working from home.
- 44:51Speaker 4: So this is the thing.
- 44:51Speaker 21: They don't get this that people you just need to
- 44:55Speaker 21: get the government out of our lives. That's what that's
- 44:57Speaker 21: the problem that's down here in Victoria. The biggest obstacle
- 45:00Speaker 21: between us and success is the government. They just need
- 45:02Speaker 21: to get out of the way. As a small business owner,
- 45:05Speaker 21: I just want I don't want them to tell me
- 45:06Speaker 21: that I have to have people come into my studio.
- 45:09Speaker 21: If you want to work from home, sure go for it,
- 45:11Speaker 21: but it's up to me as to how I run
- 45:13Speaker 21: my own business.
- 45:14Speaker 4: They've stuffed it up as much as they already could.
- 45:17Speaker 21: And to be honest, the biggest change is that they're
- 45:19Speaker 21: going to be even entertaining the idea of something sensible.
- 45:23Speaker 4: That is a dramatic change. I'll give him that credit
- 45:25Speaker 4: where credits you do.
- 45:26Speaker 21: Sensibility being sensible is a big change with the Victorian government.
- 45:30Speaker 2: I think we'd probably all be better off if most
- 45:33Speaker 2: of our politicians just work from home and let it
- 45:37Speaker 2: be no more laws, no more laws, no more schemes,
- 45:40Speaker 2: no more intrusions. Let's have a look at this. We
- 45:43Speaker 2: heard this from Ben Carroll soon after he was sworn in.
- 45:48Speaker 2: Let me make one thing very clear. I am not
- 45:53Speaker 2: Daniel Andrews. I am not just Ciner Allen. You don't
- 45:58Speaker 2: sound like yourmpletely convinced about that mark.
- 46:04Speaker 4: Do you blame me? How often do these people lie
- 46:06Speaker 4: to me?
- 46:07Speaker 21: Like I said, I think this guy looks a lot
- 46:09Speaker 21: like just Cinda allying in a gray suit.
- 46:11Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 46:12Speaker 21: I've never seen him in the same room together. Actually, no,
- 46:14Speaker 21: that's a lie. I've seen him constantly next to those
- 46:17Speaker 21: two people for the last ten years, nodding along screened with.
- 46:21Speaker 4: Everything that they ever said. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 46:25Speaker 21: He has done every is just as culpable as those
- 46:27Speaker 21: two for the destruction of his state.
- 46:29Speaker 2: Yeah, he kind of raise all those pictures. He can't
- 46:32Speaker 2: take us back to year zero. Let's move to federal
- 46:34Speaker 2: politics and the man you admire so much, Chris Bowen,
- 46:38Speaker 2: is trying to get all of the world's leaders and
- 46:40Speaker 2: all the world's spenders and all the world's climate believers
- 46:43Speaker 2: to the Fiji conference that we're paying for, but a
- 46:48Speaker 2: lot of them are staying away.
- 46:52Speaker 21: Mate, How hard how repulsive do you think you have
- 46:55Speaker 21: to be to not be able to get the world
- 46:58Speaker 21: chenn to come to Feenjet Maybe they're trying to say
- 47:02Speaker 21: that it's the perfect place. It must surely not like
- 47:07Speaker 21: they can't be it, because they would go to they
- 47:09Speaker 21: would go to anything. They'll take their private jet and
- 47:10Speaker 21: they'll do a couple of laps in the air before
- 47:13Speaker 21: they land.
- 47:14Speaker 4: To getting defeat.
- 47:14Speaker 21: You must be so repulsive and all this conference must
- 47:19Speaker 21: be so repulsive.
- 47:20Speaker 9: Not to go.
- 47:20Speaker 4: In fact, there's a good position to change for Albow.
- 47:23Speaker 21: Why doesn't he shut it down for one hundred and
- 47:25Speaker 21: fifty mils, save the country, make everyone happy. Honestly, we'll
- 47:29Speaker 21: go up in the polls if he changed his position
- 47:31Speaker 21: or no one.
- 47:31Speaker 2: It's like knocking back a lamb roast, knocking back a
- 47:34Speaker 2: trip to Fiji. It just doesn't happen unless there's a
- 47:36Speaker 2: good reason for it. And Chris bar the reason. I've
- 47:40Speaker 2: got to show you a little bit of Anthony Fauci
- 47:43Speaker 2: refusing to answer any questions in Washington to get your
- 47:46Speaker 2: thoughts out.
- 47:46Speaker 9: A look, what do the weak.
- 47:48Speaker 1: Is it today? On the evasive Council?
- 47:55Speaker 17: Respectfully the claim to answer beast upon my rates under
- 47:58Speaker 17: the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution?
- 48:00Speaker 9: What color tie are you wearing?
- 48:03Speaker 1: On the Avsive Council?
- 48:04Speaker 17: I respectfully declined to an sebaste upon my rates under
- 48:08Speaker 17: the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution?
- 48:10Speaker 9: What colors the corporate in front of you?
- 48:12Speaker 1: On the Advisive Council?
- 48:13Speaker 17: I respectfully declined to an sebeste upon my rates under
- 48:16Speaker 17: the fifth amendment.
- 48:18Speaker 2: Democracy and Accountability in Action.
- 48:23Speaker 21: Yeah, exactly, no, wonder people have lost trust in the system,
- 48:26Speaker 21: am I right?
- 48:27Speaker 4: Like it's it's just so wrong.
- 48:29Speaker 21: I'm glad they made him do it one hundred and
- 48:30Speaker 21: eleven times because he was exhausted by the end of it,
- 48:33Speaker 21: and I was surprised that he had to keep looking
- 48:34Speaker 21: at his notes the entire time. By the one hundred
- 48:37Speaker 21: and eleventh time, you thought you'd be able to just
- 48:38Speaker 21: bang that out.
- 48:40Speaker 2: Which amendment is it? The fifth? The fifth?
- 48:43Speaker 4: Yeah? Right, yes, number five.
- 48:47Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us back. I appreciate it, enjoying the
- 48:50Speaker 2: new glow of Ben Carroll's Victoria. That's all we've got
- 48:54Speaker 2: for you tonight. Thanks for watching Peter Credlin's up next.