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Injuries compound for the Carolina Panthers as preseason draws near! · C3 Panthers Podcast: Carolina Panthers

• 0:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: Things are getting chippy.
• 0:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: Let's Carolina heads the cat and for the Hall of Fame game.
• 0:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: Excel, who's been up my all reports having a great training camp.
• 0:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: After a big catch came down hard, worries about a concussion, but it looks like he just received a stinger.
• 0:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: And the league is all a talk about Bryce Young.
• 0:23
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Tony Darn, and not to it, but to do it, brother, let's roll!
• 1:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's Tuesday night and we may not be football experts, but we are expert football fans and we're here chopping up the latest Panthers and news and opinions from the fan perspective.
• 1:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: My name's Tony Dunn.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: It's the C3 Panthers Barguest.
• 1:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: The longest run in Panthers Barguest and I do it each and every week with my wheelband, Cody, like how you doing.
• 1:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Don't it done?
• 1:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: Look man, I'm getting kind of ticked.
• 1:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Every single time we do these, man, we're talking about some new kind of injury about some Panthers player.
• 1:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm exhausted, this isn't hasn't even started yet.
• 1:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: We need a string of good luck.
• 1:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: to help us overcome all these injury woes.
• 1:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: But Tony done.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We have a fantastic show for the C3 faithful tonight and you know we're going to do it with the best damn Panthers fans in all of
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  [SPEAKER_00]: You love them.
• 1:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: We got John B. Jenkins go fish K G 7 3 is in the building.
• 2:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: VR the whole deal What's up brother Michael?
• 2:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: Why did your company has a good time at the baseball game with your dad my friend?
• 2:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: How did it go?
• 2:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: Global Tony Donn.
• 2:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's a Tuesday night brother.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: You already know what time it is and nothing to it But to do it
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  [SPEAKER_04]: The numbers two five two two two eight fifty ninety eight that's two five two two two eight fifty ninety eight Give us your thoughts on how this training camps were going along and how concerned you are about the injuries ahead And what you think that we can learn in this upcoming Preseason Hall of Fame game where Luke Keekely becomes I think the second youngest player to be inducted into the Hall of Fame CK in the house how you doing buddy?
• 2:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm just out here living dreams, as they say.
• 2:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: And talking about Panthers football with the Panthers game in this week.
• 2:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's fantastic news.
• 2:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: I haven't had a chance to actually react to the Chris Brassel injury.
• 3:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so that was a bit of a blow.
• 3:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think we should do something moving forward and just not,
• 3:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: Now, just talk about players we were excited about because they're now injured.
• 3:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Nope, they've been more going for a thousand and a thousand.
• 3:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: I know the injuries are bound.
• 3:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: I hope that our excitement does not always set us up for a little take, you know, guess test of fate.
• 3:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: But you know what it is.
• 3:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: It is what it is.
• 3:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: And the Carolina Panthers will be playing on Thursday night in Canton.
• 3:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: They take on the airs and airs on the corners.
• 3:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: They're favorites.
• 3:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: By the way, we talk about that later.
• 3:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: Also, some big news ahead.
• 3:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: I want to go ahead.
• 3:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think is it okay to put it out there, Cody is we may be.
• 3:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think things are looking all signs are pointing to next Tuesday night.
• 4:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: Roman Harper, join in the C3 pay for this podcast.
• 4:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: Papa, let's go, Roman Harper will indeed be a special guest next Tuesday night on the C.D.
• 4:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: Panthers podcast.
• 4:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to pick his brain about everything from this current Carolina Panthers team, the Hall of Fame game, and of course we're going to be asking him questions about his time with the Carolina Panthers.
• 4:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: And
• 4:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to try and get him to tell everyone here, the story he told me about his fight, legendary fight.
• 4:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, this dude's mad senior.
• 4:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: If we get to hear some of that, we have to, man, shout out to Sarah.
• 4:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: to Roman is I've gotten to know him in ways that I'll tell you guys here in the in the coming future, but Romans are really cool guy and he's been very gracious to grace us to give us some of his time next Tuesday.
• 4:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: We were going to do it tonight.
• 5:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: We had him tonight, but he was traveling his on the road, including doing some things.
• 5:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: This is a very busy man.
• 5:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah on here, but I'm going, I mean, I'm glad we get them either way.
• 5:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: So we've got some cool things lined up for you coming this season.
• 5:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: Roman Harper's just the beginning of it.
• 5:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: Cody, let's go ahead and jump into tonight's show.
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• 5:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: injuries compound for the Carolina Panthers as the preseason draws near.
• 6:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I think there was, you know, in a wild way, a collective gas today as we watch news from X, formerly known as Twitter that
• 6:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: Excel had come down hard hit his head and they were really concerned that or you know there was concerns you got checked out for concussion I believe he's been cleared of that Cody isn't that what you know you're talking really you can
• 6:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: Excel has been a controversial figure in among Panther fans and people were, or maybe, yeah.
• 6:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that shows you man is like, hey, things are getting a little, or a little thin here.
• 6:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: They are.
• 6:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he was the first round pick that would trade it up into the first round to draft.
• 6:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then, you know, he had a decent rookie season still a lot of those jobs for the story of that season.
• 6:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then a lot of fans have been kind of feeling overwhelmed by the performance of
• 7:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: a tremendous training camp thus far, but today near the end of practice, Xavier will get high point in the football and then came down rough and banged his head on the ground.
• 7:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: This is from Cassidy Hill, Carolina Panthers.com.
• 7:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Deep Canalists, Xavier will get to be evaluated.
• 7:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: but cleared of concussion, Xavier, again, will be evaluated for a singer, Dave Canalis said after landing hard on a play during Tuesday's training camp practice, he was cleared over concussion quickly.
• 7:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: So that is the good news.
• 7:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's not some lingering injury, hopefully he'll be back soon.
• 7:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: He says he made a really nice play, higher point in it, Cam Miller was in great position
• 7:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: winged and evaluated them through the Republican caution, but it looks like a stinger.
• 7:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: So we're going to evaluate him more over the next day or so and just try to make sure he's in the right spot.
• 8:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: The receiver went up for a ball in the red zone and end zone, which he caught.
• 8:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: So that's a good news.
• 8:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: While twisting his body around the same bounds, ended up landing on his back.
• 8:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: He seemed just to be catching his breath for a second before he asked Jonathan Brooks to bring a trainer over.
• 8:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: The trainers attended them on the ground.
• 8:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: True, but Hubbard, Bryce Young, and Tommy Trimble, note close by refusing to leave him.
• 8:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: After Dave can now listen, Dan Morgan spoke to him for a few moments.
• 8:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Trainers brought out the cart, and again, was able to walk a few steps to the cart.
• 8:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: on his own can now let's go on to say we have a nice little window here he wouldn't be playing in this game but we have a nice little window to get him turned around and just see where he's at and his significant injury with land on an already impacted wide receiver group working Chris Brassel suffered an injury last week that will require a season in doing
• 8:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: ending surgery.
• 9:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: So it's tough, but we really didn't kind of dodge a bullet that this wasn't more serious than it actually is because regardless of what any Panthers fan thinks about Xavier look at, she is going to be a very important part of our offense in 2026 and that's not up for debate.
• 9:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, it's like when you met Dave Canalis at the Savannah Bananas game, he talked about how Excel was the one that, you know, had been turning heads the most in this, you know, in his preparation and things that he's doing.
• 9:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: We've seen a lot of coverage of this.
• 9:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: I have not seen this SI feature on Excel.
• 9:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: I've seen some things like with.
• 9:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: So one thing with I think it was with Gina Quick maybe talking about with his trainer about his diet and like how he's been training is lost 12 pounds and you know, I mean is and how he's not paying attention to the noise or trying to, you know,
• 10:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: block that out.
• 10:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: But you know, I mean, it doesn't matter.
• 10:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, most people usually have their minds made up when it comes to players or things, you know, there are people that have already concluded that Excel's not going to be good.
• 10:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: Then there's people that have concluded that he is good and that is just a matter of time.
• 10:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: And but we knew he was a guy that was at least the way the Panthers talked about him as a project that was going to come along and develop much like he was in college where he excelled excelled.
• 10:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: Um, and his senior year and this year, though, is remarkable, it's a, it's a very important year for Xavier, let's get regardless, right, is that if he doesn't show significant growth, you know, not only will the noise get louder, but the Carolina Panthers will have to continue to evaluate how they push forward not only with him as a player, but that wide receiver room.
• 10:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: And with, uh,
• 10:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: injury to Chris Brazzle at least that opportunity is going to continue to be there for XL him right now looking at this group you need them and you said that he wasn't going to play in this preseason game Cody I just continued to ask who that hell is playing get this game it's like they're experts we're going to continue to talk about this more
• 11:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: being in C.K.
• 11:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: have been sparring partners over this issue of, do you play your players?
• 11:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: Do you not play your first training players?
• 11:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Do you know the fact that we're incurring so many injuries, which we haven't even got to J.C. Sanders yet, J.C. Sanders twisted his ankle.
• 11:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: He can also thank goodness not a serious injury, but I mean, again,
• 11:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: We don't have to get to it now, but eventually we're going to get to this question here in a couple of minutes, like, what do how much do we play these first stringers in precision football, but we haven't even played a game and we're already talking about like four or five injuries deep on this team.
• 12:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: This is going to be something that I feel like.
• 12:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: this conversation of do you don't you play your players is nice never going to go away when you're you're going to play them and then somebody's going to get hurt and then you can say don't play them and then the next year you're not going to play any of them and you're going to come out like it's just going to always be this revolving door but without getting into that conversation CK though I mean we know that these guys aren't playing in this first game
• 12:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: at least that's what I've gathered is that Kenny Pickett will talk about this Kenny Pickett's get the start and that you know you've heard.
• 12:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think I saw Prince Lee and my meal and say you know what does he expect to be and this preseason game.
• 12:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: He said on the sideline and a jumpsuit I hope you know.
• 12:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: So this I don't it doesn't look like CK regardless of our debate on whether and how much you should play that the Panthers
• 13:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: Don't see this Hall of Fame game as the opportunity to really do that.
• 13:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's important you guys keep in mind.
• 13:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Historically, the Hall of Fame game is never playing.
• 13:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Starter so much so that back in the day when the Raiders played Josh Jacobs,
• 13:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: In the preseason, it was like they were sending a message that they didn't think that he was about he was a very, you know, important piece to that team.
• 13:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, here he is now in Green Bay, just being considered one of the top right now.
• 13:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Not any more.
• 13:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: Right, did.
• 13:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, remember, I think he's the one that got.
• 13:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: some domestic violence, he was killing it, I mean, he was having a really like the peak of his career, but man, he really just threw that away.
• 13:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think they released him.
• 13:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what they did.
• 13:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
• 13:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe I'm right.
• 13:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: I want to say it.
• 13:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I know it was bad.
• 13:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: That thing was still being a duty candidate.
• 14:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but that's a great point is that a guy that was considered a star and the, you know, at least a important part of what the Raiders were trying to do, that people, you know, that became a talking point, you know, so let's see.
• 14:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
• 14:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so listen, not only do we have to worry about injuries, but also our own players kicking each other's ass.
• 14:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I want to know, do we like this?
• 14:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: Do we not like this?
• 14:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: Training camp is getting trippy.
• 14:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: So this was not a padded practice today and the boys were out there getting
• 14:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: after it, man.
• 14:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: So from K. McDonald, Bryce Young was not pleased to begin 7-7 on 7.
• 14:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: Period begins with a covered shack, then it proceeds to shut the ball at the equipment storage facility on the side of the practice field.
• 15:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: By the way, I do love more emotion from Bryce Young this year.
• 15:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: I welcome that with with arms right open.
• 15:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, now Luke Fortner throwing a punch at the defensive line.
• 15:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: And how about this, man?
• 15:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like every year, Tuba Hubbard is getting into some kind of scrap.
• 15:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: His advice to Canadian man.
• 15:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: Tuba Hubbard and body brown had to be separated.
• 15:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Hubbard threw.
• 15:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: Bobby Brown's helmet a long way after the scrum.
• 15:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: So it's gonna ship you out there, man.
• 15:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I feel like this is a byproduct of having to always go against your own team.
• 15:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, which is why I know a lot of these coaches like it.
• 15:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: When you get to go against some of these other teams in preseason and in training camp one day
• 15:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: uh, you know, when they visit other teams, but uh, I don't know, do we like this?
• 16:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: Do we not like, do you take this as a sign of the Panthers showing some fight or, are you worried that just some dumb shit can happen, especially because of all the injuries we've already incurred, and this is just a recipe for disaster.
• 16:21
  [SPEAKER_04]: CK, do you think this is a, not the burger store or, I mean, or what do you think about his question, should I say?
• 16:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I, I think that it is every training camp.
• 16:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think we have these stories.
• 16:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think any of this is considered, you know, do you want more nation or,
• 16:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, anything that is worth being concerned about, or even like excited about, right?
• 16:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is, you know, at the end of the day, these guys are in helmets, a lot of times they're in the heat.
• 16:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, this stuff that happens and what we're waiting for are the joint practices when this stuff can happen against other teams.
• 16:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then that way, there can be a team unity that ends up coming together, which is always what happens when those moments happen.
• 17:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: or even just the preseason games.
• 17:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, those are an important piece when they see that the offense playing complementary, you know, football with the defense.
• 17:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the defense is going to respect that.
• 17:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think those guys will come together pretty quickly.
• 17:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: Do I think Chuba Hubbard and Bobby Brown have bad blood?
• 17:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: No.
• 17:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: No.
• 17:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: I just an interesting one there to me is like, what happens in a pack and a
• 17:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: in a practice where you didn't have pads on.
• 17:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: You had helmets, but this was not like a full padded practice.
• 17:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: How does the run it back?
• 17:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: Bobby Brad Durga so are like mad at each of it.
• 17:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like, I don't know.
• 17:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's like the Bobby Brad just like pick him up and treat him like a little boy or something.
• 17:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: And run to me and probably, you know, a two-bohubber found a hole up the middle
• 17:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: and uh... and uh... and uh... maybe that is a prerogative yeah i mean maybe they uh... just got a little too a little too rough at the end of the play after the whistle had already been called
• 18:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, man.
• 18:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: I really don't know.
• 18:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then, you know, it's summer, you know, the, it's, it's been hot.
• 18:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: So that'll also get the blood boiling.
• 18:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
• 18:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
• 18:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't think I have an issue with it to answer your question.
• 18:22
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's the cable out of the great point is like, this is when you love to see that, when they go to joint practices, kind of how this energy goes.
• 18:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: And you've heard, I've heard players in the past talk about this is like, they're ready to stop knocking on each other that are on this team.
• 18:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: you know, and that they look forward to that.
• 18:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: For me, I did the reason I threw this in there was it just because of the things with Chippy.
• 18:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: I liked, you know, the Bryce young one, you know, stuck out to me.
• 18:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: We saw Bryce getting, you know, we remember we talked about a few weeks ago, I guess when it was OTAs, that he was like, you know, kind of yelling and cursing at the receipt, like with the receivers he was upset about something maybe the, it was after the
• 19:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: Um, I think this is like whether or not you want to see this as a good thing or a bad thing for price again, to me, for price is very much like Excel is that regardless of what anyone thinks about them, they know that this year is remarkably important for them.
• 19:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I think that to me, if that's, if I was going to read into this to the most,
• 19:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, between the lines, you know, investigated too much.
• 19:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: You think about it too far is that, you know, it was like, hey, man, price is like, really taking this year serious.
• 19:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: And that he hasn't taken years serious, but that's all I came away from it.
• 19:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: But things are chippy as these guys are getting prepped.
• 19:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: And they are ready to go bang on some other guys, that are I'm wearing a different jersey.
• 19:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: And probably, you know, tired of injuries happen and when they're just playing each other.
• 19:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and that's why this all the fame game is, you know, really a blessing in disguise.
• 20:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: And listen, we have some guys that are on the bubble that are still looking to make this team, but also some, some of those same guys have looked very impressive.
• 20:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I think that this is a great opportunity for some of these guys to show that they can be meaningful quality depth going forward that can come through in a pinch for the Panthers and there's a good opportunity for them to showcase that against another team rather than potentially scrapping your own teammates down.
• 20:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, man.
• 20:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: Fuck the cardinals.
• 20:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: They stole our state bird.
• 20:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's a North Carolina bird baby.
• 20:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to take it back.
• 20:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like we always do.
• 20:45
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• 21:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: on demand that are on please as we continue to talk about training camp Cody before we move on to the next story is that I have I guess if you just want to look at the trends of what this two weeks of training camp so far is that the early couple of days it felt like you heard a lot of news about the defense you know I'm looking good in many ways but I feel like over the last week
• 21:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: There's been a lot of talk about the offense winning, right?
• 21:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like, I mean, you saw a fan face that the offense, the excitement, but the highlights, the headlines, the one line kind of comments about what's going on seemed a highlight or an offense that is improving
• 21:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: Um, particularly because this is training camp and you can only run so much and run, you know, I mean, you're not tackling the passing attack is seem to have been, um, celebrated so far.
• 21:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: Guys like Bryson tremendous.
• 21:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: If you look, go on to panthers.com is at the play of the day today in training camp.
• 22:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: You've heard Excel pulling down things.
• 22:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: You saw, I saw Ted Roe and McMillan make a cool one handed catch.
• 22:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: You see, Metchi and, um, and Jimmy Horn Jr. shaking and breaking.
• 22:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: I saw this one clip to of Trevor Moore just, and they said, this is my dog, but man, this guy cannot cover.
• 22:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: He just did that.
• 22:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: It did not look good in coverage by any means, but he's there to kind of play in the box against the run and maybe create some disruption in the backfield of available.
• 22:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: But I think that's what I've kind of deduced or gathered.
• 22:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: Do you feel the same Cody?
• 22:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, uh, this is, I feel like one of the stories of this training camp is that Bryce doing is looking good.
• 22:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like he's really looking surgical out there.
• 22:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, there have been multiple plays that I have.
• 22:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: been made aware of, where he is, his been surgical is putting the ball in the end zone, apparently him and T.D.
• 23:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: Mack have continued to build upon their connection from last year, and that is a continuing to a connection that is blossoming still, they have a real penchant for where each other is on the field.
• 23:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Basically the opposite of what Bryson and Xavier
• 23:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and in there career.
• 23:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think John met you shout out to your boy, KJ 73's.
• 23:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's really starting to look good.
• 23:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's won a lot of his one-on-one reps, which is a good thing.
• 23:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then as we mentioned last Tuesday, Jonathan Brooks.
• 23:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, that dude looks healthy.
• 23:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: Those knees were ready to go.
• 23:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: He can cut on a dime.
• 23:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's out of that leg brace.
• 23:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: And he's looking like he can be a real legitimate threat at running back for the Panthers this year.
• 24:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: And again, that's just a few of them.
• 24:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: But even in spite of losing Chris Brasal, some of the injuries that
• 24:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: Well, it's a line is really the, you know, the thing that we watch is not hard to get back today, right?
• 24:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: I believe so.
• 24:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: I did not see that, but I'm interested.
• 24:22
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, my jeep.
• 24:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, hot, did.
• 24:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know about Lewis though.
• 24:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you had news about that.
• 24:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: Ted Aero McMillan said he wanted to be a top 10 receiver this year.
• 24:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: J.
• 24:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: Lake Coke or said he was shooting for a thousand yard season.
• 24:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: We were talking about the proficiency or the ascending offense that it appears to be highlighted in these last week of training camp.
• 24:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: CK, you were at fan fest.
• 24:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: So you saw a lot of talk about the offense just clicking on also cylinders at fan fest.
• 24:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, well, I'll tell you a few pieces that stood out to me.
• 24:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, there is a difference between Jonathan Brooks and Chuba Hubbard.
• 25:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Just going to be honest with you, um, like it's, it's noticeable from the stands in practice.
• 25:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, and, uh, and AJ Dylan didn't really again, not that big of a,
• 25:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: again, not a big gap that I would say between him and Chuba Hubbard, but again, he was going to get the second team defense.
• 25:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: But when we're talking about the first team, again, Jonathan Brooks looks like if he gets to the healthy, I think we have a dude with Jonathan Brooks.
• 25:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Number two is, while Bryce did look surgical, there were a lot of passes that they gave him credit for that would have been a sack by none other than our brand new edge rusher in Jalen Phillips.
• 25:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Would you like me to play some of these clips because you said these are the first two reps.
• 25:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: If you want to play those first two, I don't know if I sent them in coordination with the time.
• 26:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: But there are two reps where he just blows up the right side, which maybe isn't great considering the fact that we know who's on the right side in Monroe Freeline.
• 26:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: But he just gets into the backfield
• 26:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Bryson would have no, like in if he had been, if there was a set or interception that was coming from that, I wrote over Blame set a price for that, but when you watch these, you realize how quick like it wouldn't be this wouldn't, I don't think this was one of them.
• 26:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was one of the ones where he was going the other direction.
• 26:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, some of these are really cool, but the the pieces that.
• 26:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: In a few.
• 26:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I got me a good shots of Jalen Coker or not, but.
• 26:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the difference for me.
• 26:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think I think Jalen Phillips is going to be a dude.
• 27:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: well we need them to pay them to be that and that's good to hear of that disruption so uh... and i think uh... was it in the fan fest that uh... johnson brooks caught a pass down the sidelines like on the flea fickle flickers up there maybe that was in a kid uh... well i don't know if uh... jane coker through it to a merchant maybe that was no that was when we're jailing coker through an interception that actually might be just a
• 27:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: Let's see what we got here.
• 27:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: Just put it here.
• 27:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's just so fucking up so hard.
• 27:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: You want to let me play this game.
• 27:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: Not play him.
• 27:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 27:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: I can pull it up if need be.
• 27:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but we'll talk through it.
• 27:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: I saw that one of the things, a lot of people were impressed by the way, Kenny Pickett played in this.
• 27:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Kenny Pickett looked nice.
• 27:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: He was very mobile.
• 27:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: I did not expect that.
• 27:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Although why I didn't expect it, but he was he had some.
• 27:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's some wheels.
• 28:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, well, I mean, yeah, he's, I think he's a, I think he's a decent player, right?
• 28:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think he's like a perfect type.
• 28:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: Back up quarterback, right?
• 28:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: See what we got here.
• 28:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, is that Bryce Rowan out there, right?
• 28:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, I think he keeps going.
• 28:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think after this.
• 28:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Dude, Twitter's fucking up so hard.
• 28:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: You might have to get it.
• 28:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: You don't what about it, Twitter.
• 28:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: Um, and look, we're having trouble streaming to Facebook right now.
• 28:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: It looks like, too, as well.
• 28:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: Good Lord technical, hey, you know, it's Tuesday technical problems around so the offense look good.
• 28:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think, or we're hearing some good talk there.
• 28:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: We are excited about what Jonathan Brook can bring to this team and you do it when you say like you can sit like the difference Jonathan Brooks just looks like the guy.
• 28:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: like he looks like a player.
• 28:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean?
• 28:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: There's certain guys that just have that part.
• 28:53
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I saw too.
• 28:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think it was, who was it that was talking about?
• 28:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: Who's your guy from Clemson Isaiah Simmons?
• 29:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: A lot of people were talking about how good like how he just looks like.
• 29:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 29:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like a NFL player.
• 29:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: So we're hoping that maybe you get some surprises like that.
• 29:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe a Isaiah Simmons who was playing very, I think you play with the chip on the shoulder.
• 29:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: He's like very motivated, played very good on special team swores.
• 29:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think a play pretty well in that final game or in the playoff game.
• 29:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: You have Jonathan Brooks who has a lot to prove.
• 29:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: Guys got a lot to prove.
• 29:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: Excel being one of them.
• 29:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: So this offense seems to be coming along.
• 29:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: And if Jalen Phillips can be like that super star defense player and really kind of inject some real excitement into this defense and, you know, kind of make them from good to really terrifying or a threat.
• 29:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think that will be giant for the Carolina Panthers.
• 29:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: Let's see if we can finally get up.
• 29:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: Good.
• 29:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: God never mind.
• 29:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's still here.
• 29:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
• 29:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: Well, here.
• 29:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: Just play it.
• 29:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: And let's see.
• 30:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right, so you can't let you run it.
• 30:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right, this is a trick play here.
• 30:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Who's in?
• 30:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Look how quick you look up.
• 30:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Look how quick in the backfield dude.
• 30:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: That was princely right number three.
• 30:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: which he is locked in.
• 30:22
  [SPEAKER_04]: There's a story on Panthers.com about him being locked in and you know how he's really focused.
• 30:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: He said if he was this this focused when he was in college he would have been a number one first round pit.
• 30:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: All right, what we got.
• 30:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I see what you're saying right there.
• 30:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: Look at that.
• 30:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: If Jalen Phillips can be the guy that we need him to be, this defense can be terrifying man.
• 30:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: These were back to back plays, by the way.
• 30:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not this one.
• 30:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is just a run down the middle for Tua.
• 30:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's see, I played this one because of, I just liked that timing just that back shoulder throw.
• 31:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Look, I mean, just look how perfect this was, man.
• 31:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: To teamack.
• 31:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, perfect back shoulder.
• 31:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's not.
• 31:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's textbook.
• 31:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, it's just it's not that isn't anything that I don't know me.
• 31:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's it's a really good shot and then this one was the one that was, I don't think this is the one I thought I had another one of jailing for loops that I'd sent but.
• 31:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: I would tell you, well, outside of this number 92, like a dog in the middle, just throwing dudes around.
• 31:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if you could tell, but Lee Hunter, by the way, for those who aren't away, that's Lee Hunter.
• 31:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's our second round pick.
• 31:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: Number 92 in the middle.
• 31:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: He looks as advertised.
• 31:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's aggressive.
• 31:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: He can shed blocks.
• 32:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's quick getting into the uphill.
• 32:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: Man.
• 32:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: What do they call it?
• 32:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: They call it an offensive line.
• 32:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: Look so small.
• 32:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Did you notice this?
• 32:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Look how small this line looks.
• 32:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, I heard some people talking about this is that rookie center that we drafted, which that's not him.
• 32:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think in 78.
• 32:22
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't believe, but.
• 32:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: Sam Hect.
• 32:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
• 32:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
• 32:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: He's a trouble.
• 32:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: And with like, you know, the power.
• 32:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I have a clip of him in practice against Cam Jackson.
• 32:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, OK. Yeah.
• 32:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Those.
• 32:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: So hopefully, man, this is what we just who knows what's going to happen.
• 32:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, it's got a state healthy.
• 32:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: You want to see growth and the offense continue to grow.
• 32:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: These free agents that we brought in to make a difference.
• 32:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: Some of these rookies to show us why we drafted them.
• 32:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: And some of these guys that we drafted in the past that have not been
• 32:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: available or you know necessarily hit just yet Jonathan Brooks excels some different players like that is to for them to step into that NFL game in Thrive that's what we're hoping for Cody we got some news of a player Panthers have made some roster adjustments today and it was off of a kind of a surprise retirement
• 33:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yep, and thank you to see you all for the $2.03 bomb set of sickly panters podcast Longest one panters podcast on YouTube We appreciate your brother, but yeah, just for my guy Alex is that low since panters announced the deadline the Brian Ray is retiring
• 33:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: Wait, this 28 years old joined Carolina in 2023 and appeared in 46 games started 10 And yeah, this would be another potential roster spot that that we're going to To look the field and we actually already did we added wide receiver rock Taylor
• 34:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: to the team.
• 34:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: We also waved Gabriel Benjard, also a Nia Smith.
• 34:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: So we added by the receiver Rot Taylor and Elijah Cooks, who I believe was in the CFL.
• 34:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: He was in some other league.
• 34:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not entirely sure where he was playing ball, but yeah man
• 34:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: Can you want to go across and be all reciting our favorite play?
• 34:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, do you remember, I mean, I won't say that.
• 34:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know what I was trying to do.
• 34:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's like, what?
• 34:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: He was a fifth round draft pick, sixth round draft pick, maybe.
• 34:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think he played pretty well at some times.
• 34:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think some people, you know, I mean, like, he wasn't like somebody that we picked on or that people had a lot of problems with or not problems, but like issues.
• 35:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: I wonder what it is, you know, I wonder if you got like an injury, a small injury and it was like screw this.
• 35:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm not doing any more rehab, I'm tired of football, I'm not really, you know, it's too hard for me to fight to be on this team right now.
• 35:22
  [SPEAKER_04]: Let me just go home to be with my family.
• 35:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: Who knows why?
• 35:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: Some of these guys, you hear stories like this.
• 35:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: Because he had been with the team and he just like didn't come out for practice and said I'm retired and I guess Brian Ray were time for the Carolina Panthers 28 years old.
• 35:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: I saw somebody else have retired across the league just after two seasons or something to that effect.
• 35:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: But Cody, do we have anything else pressing before we get to the whole of fame game stuff and we can also take some cat calls to
• 35:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, yeah, let's do that.
• 35:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: Let's take some cat calls and then we will, uh, we will, uh, finish up talk all the fame game.
• 36:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: All right.
• 36:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: Let's do it.
• 36:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: The numbers two, five, two, two, eight, fifty, ninety eight.
• 36:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: We'd love to get your thoughts on the Carolina Panthers.
• 36:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: They're offense.
• 36:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: What they're going to have to prove this year.
• 36:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: What you've seen so far and, uh, what you expect in this Hall of Fame game.
• 36:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: Let's go ahead and hit it, man.
• 36:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: So what do you thought it's on cat calling?
• 36:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's pretty f***ing shouldn't do that to somebody.
• 36:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: And how do that make you feel?
• 36:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, very uncomfortable.
• 36:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: So how do you think cat calling makes the person feel?
• 36:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: It feels good like the three and a four.
• 36:39
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo yo, yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo
• 37:05
  [SPEAKER_05]: Some of the guys are getting back healthy.
• 37:08
  [SPEAKER_05]: Hopefully by the season starts, we'll really only have you know, Brasville, Mo and Scort and then Ikey out, which would be good, you know, having everyone else back.
• 37:20
  [SPEAKER_05]: But man, these injuries have been hit and around the whole league as a whole, you know, so it's not just us, but definitely sucks.
• 37:28
  [SPEAKER_05]: But I just kind of want to call in to talk about
• 37:35
  [SPEAKER_05]: It's been kind of a debate, a little debate again online, about the whole Brighton contracting, um, just from listening to a man, like, I don't know why it's so hard for fans on your stand, like they probably haven't made a decision yet, um, obviously they believe in him somewhat, because he's starting quarterback again this year, going year four, and, you know, he was eight-naked as a star in last year, when we made our first playoff appearance as 2017,
• 38:04
  [SPEAKER_05]: And the reporters keep asking him like, what about price contract?
• 38:08
  [SPEAKER_05]: I think he keeps saying, we're keeping those in-house.
• 38:11
  [SPEAKER_05]: Because like, he's not going to openly say that.
• 38:16
  [SPEAKER_05]: If they are having discussions or if they're not, and not going to openly tell the reporters what his plans are.
• 38:21
  [SPEAKER_05]: But hypothetically, like, let's say that they haven't really considered extending.
• 38:27
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's not a bad thing.
• 38:29
  [SPEAKER_05]: Just his production overall, to me,
• 38:33
  [SPEAKER_05]: the crazy extension, like, I was just, I was looking at the soft, like the, yeah, all right, my son turned out.
• 38:43
  [SPEAKER_05]: Quarterbacks, but come off their rookie deal, they get paid the big contract, you know?
• 38:49
  [SPEAKER_05]: So it's like, they're, they're given themselves another year to wait and see if he can his plate can elevate again and improve.
• 38:57
  [SPEAKER_05]: And then we pay him, like, he's not going to take
• 39:03
  [SPEAKER_05]: Um, so, you know, um, or I get to give themselves a discount, that's just kind of my thoughts on it.
• 39:12
  [SPEAKER_05]: Like, I don't know why it's such a hard concept for fans to grasp, because all this speculation I'm like, oh, do they really believe in them or not?
• 39:20
  [SPEAKER_05]: Like, at the end of the day, he's played for contract this year.
• 39:24
  [SPEAKER_05]: I've a lot of faith that he can get it done and get his contract.
• 39:27
  [SPEAKER_05]: But let's just see how the scene goes first, um, before we make any other assumptions.
• 39:32
  [SPEAKER_05]: Other than that, I've said it for Kansas football coming up.
• 39:34
  [SPEAKER_05]: Give me your thoughts on.
• 39:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, thanks.
• 39:38
  [SPEAKER_05]: Thanks a whole thing, man.
• 39:39
  [SPEAKER_05]: Anthony, some shows you motherfuckin' time.
• 39:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: Thanks, Anthony, for the call, talking about the discussion of Bryce Young and how the Carolina Panthers have this ultimately punted the idea of extending him right now and saying here this season.
• 39:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: matters as we continue to figure out what that is for Anthony to answer your kind of question you don't understand why fans can't get this is ultimately just doesn't fit the narrative of either camp when it comes to Bryce.
• 40:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: the price young lovers, it doesn't fit their narrative because the idea is pay the man, pay the man, pay the man, go ahead, get at this, you know, in he's going to be it, and it's just a matter of time.
• 40:21
  [SPEAKER_04]: And then there's the other half of the or the other side of the coin where people don't believe in price and this and that they say, this is, you know,
• 40:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, well, if they didn't believe in them or if they believed them, they would have paid them already.
• 40:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's stuff like this is basically, look, I think the Panthers continue to just say is like, this is not the time for us to negotiate a mega extension with this guy as we're trying to get better as a team and seeing his continued growth as a leader and a quarterback in this league is part of our way of navigating the future of the Carolina Panthers.
• 40:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: and even if they were settled on doing the extension now, they're not going to say much, because the more they say, the more leverage they give to the agent in that case, or the potential they have of creating some sort of rift in the relationships.
• 41:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, no surprise here at all, but the talk is about there is continued.
• 41:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like here, Cody is the reports are out that
• 41:22
  [SPEAKER_04]: Um, they're going to let Bryce young play out 20 26 before they talk extensions.
• 41:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: No surprise to me.
• 41:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: My thing is, who didn't know this?
• 41:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: Why does this story keep on coming up every two or three weeks?
• 41:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then we still discuss it.
• 41:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like there is a really no reason from either side of this equation.
• 41:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't matter what fan camp you're in.
• 41:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: neither party involved be the Carolina Panthers or even Bryce Jones and his agent have any incentive to sign a brand new extension before the start of this year.
• 42:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: Bryce wants to ball out and show that his worth, let's just be real 50 plus million dollars a year and the Carolina Panthers don't want to come off.
• 42:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: of any new money if they don't know that Bryce Young is, indeed, the future of the franchise at the quarterback position.
• 42:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: I put this on Twitter like, is there anyone in Panthers fandom who was under the assumption Bryce would get paid before the start of the season?
• 42:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, who is expecting this?
• 42:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's a legit question.
• 42:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm asking who is expecting
• 42:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: other than G-baby, wherever the hell he is in Utah, who is expecting Brasidol to get a brand new contract?
• 42:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: It just makes no sense.
• 42:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: And so then Joe Persian, he also puts out a report.
• 42:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: and he basically said the same thing.
• 42:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: He said the Panthers according to the sources familiar with this information, but not permitted to speak about it publicly, are expected to let young play out this season before considering a contract extension for a player who took a step forward, and this development, and that's just pure facts.
• 43:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: They want to see him take another step forward and guess what?
• 43:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: Bryce Jung wants to do that exact same
• 43:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: And everyone thinking that David wrap up Bryson as the future before the start of 2026 is absolutely delusional.
• 43:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: We need to let this rest.
• 43:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: We are not talking about this any more.
• 43:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: The panters are doing it.
• 43:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: Bryson is doing it.
• 43:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: I do not for the life of me know why this continues to come up.
• 43:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I'm that what's Anthony's point as well.
• 43:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: He asked about the whole same day.
• 43:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: We're going to get in that to in just a moment.
• 43:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: Let's take another car real quick.
• 43:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: Let's see.
• 43:53
  [SPEAKER_04]: We got into the hole here.
• 43:54
  [SPEAKER_06]: She's Tony done Cody lack the seat three legions.
• 44:02
  [SPEAKER_06]: Put up everybody.
• 44:03
  [SPEAKER_06]: This the hope that the chicken and real quick.
• 44:05
  [SPEAKER_06]: Happy Tuesday.
• 44:06
  [SPEAKER_06]: Happy Tuesday.
• 44:09
  [SPEAKER_06]: I got a two-call list for this first call is I just got a public service announcement first and foremost so I'm not in the business of telling Panthers fans how to fan or telling anybody how to fan I believe that with our first amendment right we have the freedom of speech to voice our opinions and say what we want to say.
• 44:35
  [SPEAKER_06]: But I do got to say this man, injuries are part of football.
• 44:39
  [SPEAKER_06]: We know this.
• 44:40
  [SPEAKER_06]: And we're not the only team with injuries.
• 44:43
  [SPEAKER_06]: And you know, I saw earlier today that a J.L.
• 44:46
  [SPEAKER_06]: and Walker with the Atlanta Falcons may have a torn ACL and there have been other injuries in the NSC foul.
• 44:54
  [SPEAKER_06]: And this is the public service announcement, man.
• 44:56
  [SPEAKER_06]: Let me just say this because I got to get this off my test first and foremost.
• 45:01
  [SPEAKER_06]: We got to remember that vehicle human beings.
• 45:05
  [SPEAKER_06]: And I'm not trying to come across this whole year than now, but hear me out.
• 45:09
  [SPEAKER_06]: When players get injured, and when I see Panther fans in the comment section of certain blogs and platforms, you know, basically laughing or, or, or, you know, this and players from other teams, we got more class than that as Panther fans, y'all.
• 45:29
  [SPEAKER_06]: Let's remember the human element because we have injuries
• 45:32
  [SPEAKER_06]: But first and foremost, these are human beings that we're talking about.
• 45:36
  [SPEAKER_06]: Just the hope, Della.
• 45:38
  [SPEAKER_06]: I got a second call real quick.
• 45:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: All right.
• 45:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: The hope dealer here.
• 45:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: Let's see what he's got.
• 45:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: One more to go.
• 45:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: And then we'll talk over this.
• 45:49
  [SPEAKER_06]: Hope Della's second call.
• 45:50
  [SPEAKER_06]: Thank you all for listening to my rant about the injuries of our colleagues.
• 45:56
  [SPEAKER_06]: Let's get into it.
• 45:56
  [SPEAKER_06]: You know, what's going on with our team?
• 45:59
  [SPEAKER_06]: Man, gosh, we had Excel carded all today with the head injury.
• 46:05
  [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, all these injuries, y'all, and I was just thinking, man, I'm worried about the continuity of our offensive line.
• 46:12
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm hoping that that won't be a problem.
• 46:15
  [SPEAKER_06]: We have a lot of new faces on our offensive line that haven't played together.
• 46:19
  [SPEAKER_06]: So,
• 46:20
  [SPEAKER_06]: We got the Hall of Fame game coming up though, you know, Kenny Pickett, starting Super Bowl winning, Kenny Pickett, as I got a couple questions, man, which are going to be looking out for on Thursday during the Hall of Fame game, you know, what indicate is you're going to be looking for.
• 46:38
  [SPEAKER_06]: And the other thing, you know, I was thinking too, man, with all the injuries, I don't know about child, but this early by week, and I see this and it's looking better and better, you know what I'm saying?
• 46:48
  [SPEAKER_06]: At first, I was kind of worried about the early bi-week, but she would now have to wait to things that are looking.
• 46:53
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'm kind of glad that we got it going there, but anyway, with the injuries now, have you all ever seen a training camp with this many injuries?
• 47:04
  [SPEAKER_06]: I can't remember a training camp, at least in recent memory to have quite this many injuries
• 47:15
  [SPEAKER_06]: retired today just out of the blue and gosh is just so much going on but hey I'm still excited man I'm still hopeful y'all because you know what when I think about how far we've come the past three years man we just got to keep down and so this is the hope that the man everybody stay hopeful out there keep pounding baby
• 47:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you, pounder.
• 47:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: By the way, he also dropped a $1.99 love bomb on this.
• 47:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: His vice was a number one overall pick.
• 47:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: We want excellence.
• 47:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: And to give a little backstory, man.
• 47:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: Again, you know, Panthers Twitter is a whole different ball game and, you know, people constantly fighting and going back and forth, but to add a little context and I don't know where hope dealer was seeing people, you know, celebrating Jalen Walker's ACL Terra, but there were a lot of Falcons fans that were celebrating
• 48:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: when Nick Scorton tore his ACL so then there were a bunch of Panther fans that were like hey man karma's a bit you know like you're gonna celebrate hard to get in hurt we're gonna celebrate you're doing getting hurt but even still I do not can don't that for the most part I saw a lot of people saying what it is this is terrible man like
• 48:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: you know, I don't want to beat our rivals when they're missing their best players.
• 48:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: I want them to be at full steam, full fire power.
• 48:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: So that way they know who the superior team is when we absolutely trounce them.
• 48:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: in the regular season, man, you know, and it's like we talked about with Chris Brassel and Explorting.
• 49:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: These are young men that are at the start of their careers that are out there striving for greatness.
• 49:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: You don't ever wish this kind of injury on another player, and then as I then they're just sitting around, you know, waiting for football next season.
• 49:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: They have to wait a whole
• 49:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: to be able to do the thing that they're employed to do, the thing that they love to do.
• 49:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: So it sucks, man.
• 49:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, if you want to talk about being happy that Vita Vita is being traded away to another team that's not the NFC South, sure, that's fine.
• 49:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: But celebrating a player, a young player, tearing his ACL,
• 49:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: And remember, he wasn't hairline and guy, Jalen Walker wanted to be a Carolina Panther when he really passed on them.
• 49:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, it's terrible, man.
• 49:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: Shout out to Jalen, just like Nick Scordon and Chris Brasal, I hope he recovers soon.
• 49:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I think that as football fans, we have to remember, just like our man, the whole deal is said, these are human beings.
• 50:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: So let's, let's
• 50:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I agree.
• 50:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: Tough news for them.
• 50:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, it's incredibly tough news, especially on the, you know, with what happened this off season with the the other breakout star, who's that, um, here's was it, uh, no, uh, what's the, what was the rookie that they drafted last year that was a breakout star for them?
• 50:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, yeah, James Pierce James Pierce.
• 50:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: James Pierce.
• 50:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: He went through a bunch of stuff, but now it seems that's all going away.
• 50:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: I cannot understand, I mean, not again, I cannot understand for me how, um,
• 50:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: you know, this is what's going on on that when I think they're planning on there being a suspension, but the fact that there is a suspension, I mean the Falcons are, you know, melt a massive blow with, I mean now, Jalen Walker didn't necessarily light up the the the the stat sheet last year, but I think he was disruptive enough to where he was an important piece of what they're building
• 51:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, moving forward and um, if they're not going to have either of those guys for any extended period of time, you know, for a full season for, uh, for Jalen Walker man.
• 51:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: I, uh, I feel for that.
• 51:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it sucks because, you know, it's, it's ultimately good for the NFC South opponents.
• 51:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: But like you said, you don't want to wish that you're facing a, a limping team, uh, to try to, you know, give yourself a better shot at making it into the playoffs.
• 51:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: All right.
• 51:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I was just speaking of those things is Josh Jacobs did not get released from the Green Bay Packers.
• 51:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: He actually was released from prison and not prison from jail and was not criminally charged and so interesting as they're going to like they I guess didn't have enough or wanted to continue to get more facts and he via me vehemently denies the charges.
• 52:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: All right.
• 52:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: Let's take another call.
• 52:08
  [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, it's last name.
• 52:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: Blacks, man, what's our brother?
• 52:12
  [SPEAKER_09]: Tom, CJ.
• 52:19
  [SPEAKER_09]: So, Bob is right around the corner.
• 52:23
  [SPEAKER_09]: I think, Brad is sure we're going to have a really big year with sure.
• 52:32
  [SPEAKER_09]: I think we get, we have,
• 52:37
  [SPEAKER_09]: I'm so proud, came on Jackson's, is getting a start overhearted, right now, but things with things to change, and then we see, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 53:06
  [SPEAKER_09]: I really don't like this pre-season stuff, it's kind of stuff, I'm ready for the season, you know, I'm ready for, you know, I'm ready for, you know, I'm the fan again, you know, you know, you should have a seat, you know.
• 53:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: All right, ready for the whole thing.
• 53:22
  [SPEAKER_09]: We'll have a good game this year.
• 53:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: All right, but let's talk about that whole thing.
• 53:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: Let's talk about that.
• 53:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: Thanks, Lex, for the call.
• 53:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, as you still got a little time to get in a call.
• 53:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: If you'd like all the fame games Thursday night, the Carolina Panthers will be playing the Arizona Cardinals and Kenny Pickett gets the start versus Carson Beck and I tell you one thing is that while we might be running into injuries,
• 53:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: You watch any of the coverage on the Arizona Cardinals and it looks like at least from the outside just the superficial I've taught since they're going to suck and I mean even Marvin Harrison Jr. there by people coming after him and said because he said some drops in camp and like is it in his head and this and that very surprising there why not surprising but they're a mess
• 54:18
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know the Carolina Panthers going to go with Kenny Pickett.
• 54:21
  [SPEAKER_04]: I saw some people say and that they thought Haines King was going to play the whole game.
• 54:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm excited to see him play as well.
• 54:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: What are we thinking about this all-fame game?
• 54:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: What do you hope about this?
• 54:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: What are the Panthers want to get out of this game?
• 54:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: See anyone go first?
• 54:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's going to allow them to really have an extra look at the depth pieces that we have.
• 54:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think you're going to with the injuries that we have dealt with.
• 54:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is going to be an important game.
• 54:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, these next two games really about deciding whether or not we're pulling at.
• 55:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: resources from the free agency or from moving forward with the guys that we have on this team because we see a lot of promise and what they're doing.
• 55:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I think if I'm being honest with you, I think the the areas that we have the least amount of depth from like a guaranteed starting position.
• 55:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's what they're going to be looking at.
• 55:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be the defensive line with Librarian Ray retiring.
• 55:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be the the the the wide receivers, maybe how long things that were thin there, but I think with the injury we have to brazzle and what seems to be continuous injuries to our tight-end room.
• 55:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think they're going to be looking at that position a little bit more deeply.
• 55:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: think right now if we had to tell ourselves what we think's going to happen with this corner back or secondary situation, I think they're going to have to really keep an eye on that room and then see what they're able to accomplish.
• 55:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I think more than anything is going to be the quarterback with Kenny Pickett and this quarterback last name King and Kendra Brooksford.
• 56:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: He didn't look that in practice either.
• 56:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so it'll be interesting to see how these guys mesh.
• 56:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: It'll also be interesting to see who they play, because that's going to give us a pretty good indication of who they value where.
• 56:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because if they're playing on a Hall of Fame game, it means that they don't see them valued beyond, you know, maybe just at most a second team if they're lucky.
• 56:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I kind of echoed the same sentiment.
• 56:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I've said this before, telling you this, okay, but I feel like I'm more excited about this preseason than I have been in some time.
• 56:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I mean, more than all the fam gamers really cool that we get to be a part of that.
• 56:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: But just, you know, we still have a lot of questions on depth and a couple different positions.
• 56:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: line-backer position mainly.
• 56:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: We need to see what we have behind traveling of Wallace and Depp and Lloyd to see which of those guys are going to step up offensive wind something that we've already talked about the interior of that offensive line is something that has given fans myself included some real cause for concern about how that's going to hold up.
• 57:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean,
• 57:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: Thank God we signed a Brady Christian sin when we did, you know, what a welcome addition.
• 57:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: He always is to this team and to have him back and yeah, man, hands clean like, you know, I really don't so last year, what refresh my memory boy is we ran with two quarterbacks.
• 57:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was just Bryson and Andy Dalton.
• 57:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: if I'm from remember.
• 57:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so maybe they want to do the same thing.
• 57:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe they, you know, because of the, like I already mentioned, the lack of quality depth and other positions on this team right now.
• 57:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe they want to minimize having a third quarterback because that's a roster spot somewhere else on this team.
• 57:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: This is an opportunity to hand four hands king to show
• 58:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: then he can be a legitimate, you know, at least going forward other legitimate backup in this league right now for us to be able to depend on him and the French.
• 58:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, I think maybe even though can you pick it look good at fan fest?
• 58:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: From what I've read he has not been very impressive in training camp.
• 58:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's had a couple of humbles.
• 58:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, can you pick and touch some humbles?
• 58:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, you know, he's uh, throwing a couple of any receptions, I believe.
• 58:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, both of those two guys can they pick and end hands, can need to have a good outing and and show that they're capable of, um,
• 58:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: of, you know, making some noise and hands came to the press conference and he was talking about it in very blunt terms that he saw it as an opportunity to fight for his place on this roster.
• 59:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I like that mindset and hopefully he's going to come out and ball up, man.
• 59:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm I'm I'm pulling for the guy.
• 59:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think I do think Kenny Pick is going to be just fine as a backup.
• 59:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think he's like one of those players that could thrive as a backup.
• 59:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: And if he did get a kind of an opportunity, wouldn't be a liability or a vulnerable ability in the sense.
• 59:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: So, I think to me, you know what, is I probably the thing, I think the coaching staff or that the Panthers want to get out of this most is getting used to now.
• 59:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: You got a new play caller.
• 59:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: What's his name?
• 59:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: the Brad, it's going to be calling plays.
• 59:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: It will give him an opportunity to be on the mic and actually have some game simulation of what that's like.
• 59:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: The work on communication, the work on sideline things.
• 59:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's probably more for the coaches than it is for anything.
• 59:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: where I think that's could where you can actually learn a lot about or continue to develop some of the mechanics of running the team in an in-game scenario rather than just practice in drills and you know, and it causes you to think on your feet and you know, I think is it.
• 1:00:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think it's probably the most important is this preseason is Brad is it's time.
• 1:00:21
  [SPEAKER_04]: to not necessarily show what he can do, but in a sense, get used to, or more comfortable, is he going to be in the booth, is he going to be in the sidelines, and how that process is going to look, and what is the communication between Canalus and Edzick, and I think we'll be important.
• 1:00:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: So, I guess each little game you probably work on, you try to refine something in that process.
• 1:00:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: The Carolina Panthers open up as one and a half point favorites
• 1:00:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: hold on folks don't go and register for my bookie just yet wait until September because we got a big sponsorship coming with them for this season and we're gonna be in your help with that Carolina Panthers one and a half point favorites the over under 35 and a half
• 1:01:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe you get the kickers out there working on some kick and it's a different thing since special teams guys out there, but I don't know is like you like you said CK is The Hall of Fame game is like if the preseason doesn't matter isn't it the irony is that it's a like it's a kind of a celebratory moment for the NFL And it's the least important preseason game and the least important moment and actual people in pads playing football
• 1:01:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, it's the game that's being played so quickly after training camp started that it's just it's really almost a pointless endeavor and a lot of ways it's hard to in my opinion even though I think they're going to use this as an evaluation opportunity.
• 1:01:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's going to be hard to evaluate honestly with such a short period of time together as a team.
• 1:02:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, in the camp environment.
• 1:02:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, I mean, it's, you're right.
• 1:02:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: It is kind of, it's a celebration.
• 1:02:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's more of an entertainment thing.
• 1:02:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's more of just being able to say, football is back.
• 1:02:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: And, in celebrating these Hall of Fame inductees, that they're going to be, you know,
• 1:02:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: uh... that now the whole of the ceremony when does that happen uh... oh that's a great question i'm a bit like right before i uh... not on the same usually not on the same night i don't think but it's it's time for the day we can out of this let's see uh... events pro football hall of fame let's see what the schedule of
• 1:02:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: Cardinals on the 6th class of 2026 in Tri-Met is August 8th at between 11 30 a.m. and 3 p.m. Drew Breeze, Roger Craig, Larry Fitzgerald Luke Keakley, Adam Venetary, two NFC South guys right there going in and speaking of that Cody got pull us up Luke Keakley the second
• 1:03:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: player to be ever inducted into the NFL whole thing.
• 1:03:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think we got that on the next one.
• 1:03:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: Let's see it's right in here somewhere in here.
• 1:03:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: There we go.
• 1:03:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: Only Gale's was that Gale sayers.
• 1:03:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: I can't see it.
• 1:03:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: So small.
• 1:03:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: Gale sayers.
• 1:03:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: I got you.
• 1:03:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Gale sayers was the youngest player ever inducted into the Hall of Fame.
• 1:03:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: Little
• 1:03:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Look man, obviously, as a player, you want to win the Super Bowl, you know, you want to be able to hoist out the body of your trophy.
• 1:03:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: But damn, what a perfect career for Luke, huh?
• 1:04:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: Got him left an undeniable mark on the game and then got out.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, he's still got his health.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He's still got his faculties about him.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Do shout out to Luke, man.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's like,
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And do I still find myself getting nostalgic, you know, singing, looooh, okay, cam and, you know, seeing these guys and it just brings you back to just God different time and panther football for me.
• 1:04:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was so new and so invigorating having these stall words on our team, but
• 1:04:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm happy for Luke.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm proud of him as we mentioned last week.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He's going to be the main analyst for Netflix going forward.
• 1:04:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Netflix has four games for NFL games this year.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So he's going to be a major part of that broadcast.
• 1:04:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's still an announcer for the Panthers doing their audio broadcast.
• 1:04:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, looks as doing big things, man, I'm happy to see him drive and I'm more than happy to see him inducted into the Hall of Fame at Cameron.
• 1:05:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, well deserved incredible player never had a bad year.
• 1:05:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: Right, excellent player.
• 1:05:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: Let's see.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: We got another call.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: We're going to take another call real
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  [SPEAKER_08]: I hope everybody's doing okay today.
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  [SPEAKER_08]: Whenever you come in here, can you please hit the light button?
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  [SPEAKER_08]: Can you please scroll to the great content?
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  [SPEAKER_08]: The free free podcast is the longest one that's the podcast on YouTube.
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  [SPEAKER_08]: And the game.
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  [SPEAKER_08]: They go live every Tuesday night.
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  [SPEAKER_08]: They got the free fall every Friday night.
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  [SPEAKER_08]: And they got the game every cast also.
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  [SPEAKER_08]: And the games for this topic of the night with injuries, real quick.
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  [SPEAKER_08]: made fun.
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  [SPEAKER_08]: Really, if you ever play sports man, you know, you never made fun of anybody getting hurt.
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  [SPEAKER_08]: So this was, you know, time by the people making fun on either side of anybody on editing, you know, the sort of, like the hope dealer and Cody said, but injuries, man, like the hope dealer will say, I'll remember, I've ever had this many injuries ever in a
• 1:06:30
  [SPEAKER_08]: I ever, then I did a real grasp.
• 1:06:34
  [SPEAKER_08]: It's like this is a bearish that people came over here, played in America, and every football stadium that people played in, they had a real grasp.
• 1:06:43
  [SPEAKER_08]: Right, as the feast was over, it's like in Atlanta, in Atlanta, they had a real grasp.
• 1:06:49
  [SPEAKER_08]: When it was over with, it came back and put that carpet in, on the way you were, I was going to call it carpet, really.
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  [SPEAKER_08]: That's nothing, that's something that's mostly, and the CBA, whatever, whatever, whatever, it's mostly in terms of my weight or whatever, and the master or whatever, but you can't really just come on devastating, but it's always next minute mentality, and I'm just excited, I'm going to see what's going to happen this season.
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  [SPEAKER_08]: And it's the preseason and it's the first game or the first preseason game.
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  [SPEAKER_08]: I want to see how it's king and play.
• 1:07:27
  [SPEAKER_08]: I want to see Hank's cute months of month looking at a read option, you know, I want to fucking see it.
• 1:07:33
  [SPEAKER_08]: I want to see Hank's jeans playing and I want to see some other fucking read option to see his Hank's king on beat out, can he pick it to be on number two quarterback?
• 1:07:44
  [SPEAKER_08]: Well, whatever we're going for, you know, I don't know, you know, I'm an equal opportunity and everybody, you know, for the people from our Bryce, the third money,
• 1:07:55
  [SPEAKER_08]: Like, right now, I've done anything.
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  [SPEAKER_08]: I've done anything in the lead in a serious time when he won't any money.
• 1:08:02
  [SPEAKER_08]: Like, what?
• 1:08:04
  [SPEAKER_08]: Like, man, like, he phased in that proud game.
• 1:08:06
  [SPEAKER_08]: But besides that, you know, what, how you done?
• 1:08:10
  [SPEAKER_08]: Like, he hasn't done anything.
• 1:08:11
  [SPEAKER_08]: Like, you don't got a pro boy, anything.
• 1:08:13
  [SPEAKER_08]: I saw my pay.
• 1:08:14
  [SPEAKER_08]: How you?
• 1:08:15
  [SPEAKER_08]: No pro bull, no rookie year, nothing.
• 1:08:19
  [SPEAKER_08]: Well, what do we talk about?
• 1:08:21
  [SPEAKER_08]: Like, man, I don't know.
• 1:08:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, I mean, yeah, we've talked about it.
• 1:08:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: He's got a part two real quick.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: See what he wants to talk about in this right here.
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  [SPEAKER_08]: As me, she's done like today, D.V.
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  [SPEAKER_08]: We'll talk to the McCall.
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  [SPEAKER_08]: But like I was saying about Bryce now, I only read with her time on it.
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  [SPEAKER_08]: He has not done anything.
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  [SPEAKER_08]: The deserve a contract extension.
• 1:08:57
  [SPEAKER_08]: book of five down to the site of the city that other parents like Ben Mockskatt, just some of the younger guys and it's preaching that people who don't do, you know, and this people who don't do, you know, and this people who don't do, you know, and this people who don't do, you know, and this people who don't do, you know, and this people who don't do, you know, and this people who don't do, you know, and this people who don't do, you know, and this people who don't do, and this people who don't do, and this people who don't do, and this people who don't do, and this people who don't do, and this people who don't do, and this people who don't do, and this people who don't do, and this people who don't do, and this people who don't do, and this people who don't do, and this
• 1:09:22
  [SPEAKER_08]: And real quick, Miller, Brian, ready.
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  [SPEAKER_08]: I cannot believe it's even tired.
• 1:09:26
  [SPEAKER_08]: I was, you know, me personally, I was caught by him.
• 1:09:29
  [SPEAKER_08]: It was good this year, because he's been banned up the last two years.
• 1:09:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_08]: You know, I never think of one year.
• 1:09:37
  [SPEAKER_08]: He had the elbow, the elbow on the elbow.
• 1:09:41
  [SPEAKER_08]: And he got the elbow, good.
• 1:09:42
  [SPEAKER_08]: He got the brace off.
• 1:09:43
  [SPEAKER_08]: The last season, he had the club on his hand.
• 1:09:47
  [SPEAKER_08]: That's probably why we probably tired of being hurt in the man we're having retired.
• 1:09:51
  [SPEAKER_08]: I hope that I'll be there with her, but the disease has still going to be nice on the side of the scene, J.C. Hall and the slot, you know, on the side of the scene where it is ever wrote, but he won't unlock the disease back to his pocket.
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  [SPEAKER_08]: Now all he's doing is just
• 1:10:13
  [SPEAKER_08]: team at almost a team at a lot of like team at like god like a man above the boys up there you know you don't know that's what they feel come back so not now I feel like we've got to never see this man prices for man is nice you know cloakers nice you know so man and Jimmy horn looking this better you know we've got a year on this bill
• 1:10:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: We'll tell you this.
• 1:10:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: Thanks, see the, a man look is exactly.
• 1:10:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: Guys, let's see.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: A little bit more weight.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: He goes on here.
• 1:10:45
  [SPEAKER_04]: We're going to go ahead and move on.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you, see dog for your support.
• 1:10:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: Thanks for calling in.
• 1:10:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: He calls in.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: checks out on YouTube x everywhere you get your social media content to follow the Panthers with us from a fan perspective leave a comment to the show and all of that jazz Cody I figured I pulled this up real quick the Panthers released their first iteration of the
• 1:11:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: on offense starting from top to bottom, Tet Macmillan, Jalen Coker, Rashid Walker at left tackle, Damian Lewis at left guard, Luke Fortner, Robert Hunt at right guard, Monroe Freeland, Tommy Trimble as the starting tight in Xavier LaGuit.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: as the third wide out.
• 1:11:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: And Bryson goes quarterback and Chuba Hubbard as the start and running back.
• 1:11:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: If you look and go back, I guess let's just look at some things that stand out on the offense in this step chart.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: David Moore listed high up there on the second team.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Bryson tremendous though, I feel like is who is, you know, he's played pretty well.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: He said some moments last year.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: felt like he's you've heard his name called a lot in this training camp.
• 1:12:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: I feel like him being a head of
• 1:12:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: Um, I think he's like ahead of a lot of these guys, at least on this listed debt chart in this room right here.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Stone, uh, Brady Christian sin as the backup right guard.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Stone foresight as the backup right tackle.
• 1:12:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: Jutavian Sanders, second team, second on the, the tight-end list, Mitchell Evans third on the tight-end list.
• 1:12:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: Um, anything else that stands out to you on this offensive debt chart.
• 1:12:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I'm sure this will be revised plenty going forward.
• 1:12:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I meant to put this, I don't know if you guys can see this a little bit.
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  [SPEAKER_05]: better.
• 1:12:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I mean, listen, I meant to put this in the presentation earlier, I should have, but I don't know to me, there's not a wider surprises.
• 1:13:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think Cam Jackson up there with the first team, Dean Lindman, and remember he was a big strong defensive tackle,
• 1:13:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: uh that came out uh what was it last year?
• 1:13:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: I believe it was a six round pick and dude, he's been having his way with Sam Hacked and practice to do the strong as long as physical uh they are gonna have to up this update this because we're Brian, right?
• 1:13:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's on there.
• 1:13:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's like that they are gonna have to update this um but I don't know when didn't that the bottom
• 1:13:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to take this off to the Auckland city.
• 1:13:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: The key weirdly is listed ahead of Isaiah Simmons for safety.
• 1:13:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's also really interesting to me.
• 1:13:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: Well, hi, well, maybe this year's draft pick, right?
• 1:14:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and the most depressing one is next God.
• 1:14:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Why is next God?
• 1:14:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: The label has a starter anyway, dude.
• 1:14:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's so depressing to me.
• 1:14:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I do think it's got a lot of flack, you know, to be fair.
• 1:14:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, yeah, I don't think next God was as bad as people want to blame him for being to be honest with you.
• 1:14:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'll tell you the thing that is, there's a few things to me that stick out.
• 1:14:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's John Metchy,
• 1:14:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'm not that I think that he was going to come in here and just blow the doors off of this place, but you know, to not have be him be above Bryce and Germaine or even the potential of him being ahead of David more.
• 1:14:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think kind of speaks volumes to how much they value those two guys.
• 1:14:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think Jimmy Horn still staying in second team is also a good thing that I like to see.
• 1:14:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: I also find it, I don't know that I find it odd, but I do find it interesting as AJ Dylan is fourth string running back.
• 1:15:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the dude has starting, you know, starting experience in the NFL and he's not.
• 1:15:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: failed at it.
• 1:15:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's actually been, you know, fairly efficient as a, as a, you know, situational running back.
• 1:15:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he's a short time.
• 1:15:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: He's a short yardage back now.
• 1:15:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think what does this CK is, you know, that you want Jonathan Brooks to become the number one in a sense, ascending there.
• 1:15:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: Trevor at the end, you have some draft stock in him, but he has the special teams ability of kick returns.
• 1:15:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: Even though people are mad because he took one off the face and I think it was a playoff game, but you know, I think AJ Dylan is probably going to be too much of a one trick pony if you are having to make some business decisions, particularly as he's injury set in.
• 1:15:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, good.
• 1:15:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, I mean, the thing that I almost wonder is because right now, I think Chuba and Jonathan are one A and one B as far as first team.
• 1:16:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think they just have to mark them as a team.
• 1:16:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I think Jonathan Brooks and Chuba are one and two or one, one A and one B on first team, I think Trevor E T and an AJ Dilman are also two A and two B.
• 1:16:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I only say that based on how they handled them in the in the fan fest, they were splitting the reps at the second team and and same thing with Jonathan Brooks and Juba Hubbard.
• 1:16:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, I mean, I don't know, again, I think it's more of a, they have to have a list of this way for a specific reason, but I don't think they view these guys that specific way.
• 1:16:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: I also find it interesting that Brady Kirsten sends still staying at second team.
• 1:16:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Not that I think that he was going to beat out Luke Fortner or even staying in Hect for the center position.
• 1:16:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: But, man, I don't know, I just, I think he's just continually
• 1:16:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: not given an opportunity to get a starting position is every time he started for us he's actually played fairly well.
• 1:17:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: He reminds me of Kate Maze in that Kate Maze never really got an opportunity and when he got an actual opportunity, he turned into one of the best centers in the NFL and got paid as much going up to Detroit.
• 1:17:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, I, I don't know, I just, I think that,
• 1:17:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just don't like seeing his, uh, his name on the second team anymore.
• 1:17:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 1:17:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, and so kid, the position that he was a starter for most of the season.
• 1:17:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: I believe it was 2000, you know, I was 2023 when he was playing on left guard.
• 1:17:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I felt like he kind of played his best ball at that position.
• 1:17:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: And that they have Chandler Zavala at that position instead of him.
• 1:17:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: But they have him slated right behind Robert Hunt to play right guard and I don't know man You know, well, we'll see how it is and keep him on that can at some point you're you know You're gonna get terrible back.
• 1:18:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: We don't know when exactly that will be I'm assuming He's gonna be on blood denourished because of those blood plots So I don't know if he's gonna be playing really soon with that, but and then at some point
• 1:18:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: you're expecting it came a corner to come back.
• 1:18:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I think it's also going to be interesting to see where those two guys are also following into this equation and just, you know, when we need them just for for depth concerns.
• 1:18:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: But
• 1:18:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, as I mentioned earlier boys, it's the linebacker depth that's just terrifying to me.
• 1:18:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean Travis Gibson, Bam Martin Scott, Claude and Sherylis like,
• 1:18:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry, man, that doesn't move me in the slightest.
• 1:18:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: I still think at some point.
• 1:18:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm surprised that we haven't done it yet.
• 1:18:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to have to spin the draft pick on earlier draft pick.
• 1:19:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: on an inside linebacker and started to develop some of these guys and apparently they still believe in tremen ballers and his ability to actually be something here in Carolina but I don't know man to me that's just one disaster incident away from having a guy you really don't want to be in a struggle position having to start from the Panthers.
• 1:19:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: seem like we were starting a dress feeling like we were getting out of this right of being one injury away from catastrophe.
• 1:19:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: But as a couple of injuries have hit this team a few moments.
• 1:19:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's it's it's starting it's it's poked some holes at that the depth there.
• 1:19:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean the the Panthers are not done.
• 1:19:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: They're going to have to add they're going to be adding some players.
• 1:19:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: I wouldn't be surprised if they add another
• 1:20:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: maybe a linebacker or a safety even it'd be the question if what are they going to do when do they get that free range guy?
• 1:20:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: That can play center field and do they have that in the key weekly or not even who would it be I guess it would be I mean I don't know if we just have that traditional
• 1:20:22
  [SPEAKER_04]: I even know if he's race, so big, baby.
• 1:20:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: I just got the guy ran a 4-3-3 like the dude's an exceptional athlete, that's why he was drafted in the top 10, you know.
• 1:20:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: He did a Clemson too.
• 1:20:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad that they've got him is safety, by the way.
• 1:20:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like I'm glad he made that position switch, because I do think it's gonna fit him more efficiently.
• 1:20:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think if they use, I mean, you guys gotta keep in mind, when we drafted Jeremy Chen, it was this, they were similar as far as almost on every level.
• 1:21:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so when we use Jeremy Chen in the effective way, he turned out to be a really important piece to this defense and it wasn't until, you know, Everrow got a hold of him and we decided to.
• 1:21:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you know what, we're going to, we don't need Jeremy Chen to play in any specific way any more.
• 1:21:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm hoping that Everrow can see the value and the versatility that a guy like Simmons can bring.
• 1:21:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm hoping he's on a on a resurgence.
• 1:21:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: I sincerely I really do hope that dudes able to turn it around because that will be an exciting addition if that dude can You know, live up to the initial hype that he had coming out of the, you back in the coming into the NFL.
• 1:21:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: All right, we got one final call up for the night is John B. Jenkins.
• 1:21:45
  [SPEAKER_07]: Hey guys, John B. Jenkins calling in.
• 1:21:47
  [SPEAKER_07]: It's what is probably one of the final alternatives of all updates of the season as we are prepared.
• 1:21:54
  [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
• 1:21:56
  [SPEAKER_07]: But don't.
• 1:21:57
  [SPEAKER_07]: Anyway, seriously, the alternative football season for all, pretty much all the leagues are wrapping up.
• 1:22:12
  [SPEAKER_07]: the TAL or the Arena League, which has our Ozark swunkers in it.
• 1:22:19
  [SPEAKER_07]: Unfortunately, the Ozark Wunkers are not making it to the championship, but the St. Joseph Goats, who are owned by the Kelphi brothers, are owned in part by the Kelphi brothers.
• 1:22:32
  [SPEAKER_07]: And we'll be going up against the the
• 1:22:41
  [SPEAKER_07]: arena football, one championship.
• 1:22:44
  [SPEAKER_07]: Again, the arena football, one or a half one is what's left, the remnants of the original arena league.
• 1:22:51
  [SPEAKER_07]: That's the only league that is allowed to use those to rebound that.
• 1:22:54
  [SPEAKER_07]: But anyway, their championship game will be the Saturday in Clarksville to see featuring the National Cat and the Albany Firebirds, or did I say that right Albany Firebirds,
• 1:23:11
  [SPEAKER_07]: That's all I got for you.
• 1:23:13
  [SPEAKER_07]: I'm looking forward to watching this preseason game because there's a lot of these A lot of these guys are these guys these preseason games are what gotten me into spring football I mean, I have never watched reality TV.
• 1:23:27
  [SPEAKER_07]: I feel like it's contrived But I do love watching the storylines of minor league semi-pro, alt football and preseason fit into that
• 1:23:39
  [SPEAKER_07]: So I actually am going to enjoy the fact that we're probably not going to see hardly any starters.
• 1:23:44
  [SPEAKER_07]: This is going to be like a scouting game for me and I really want to see how Cam Gild does.
• 1:23:50
  [SPEAKER_07]: You know, he was the dissent supplier of the year in the UFL.
• 1:23:55
  [SPEAKER_07]: This is actually his third Stint with the Panthers or third Stint at least with Canelis.
• 1:24:02
  [SPEAKER_07]: I think he's got some sort of time with Canelis.
• 1:24:05
  [SPEAKER_07]: Anyway, he's the guy that was brought into the replacement story.
• 1:24:08
  [SPEAKER_07]: So we'll be looking for him and, yeah, I'm really curious to see how small an alarm is fire, transistors, wrecks, quarterback, can you pick it?
• 1:24:22
  [SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry.
• 1:24:24
  [SPEAKER_07]: I am curious to see how he does and, yeah, if there's any other awesome alternative football updates throughout the off season, I will
• 1:24:37
  [SPEAKER_07]: I will send those to you, of course, but I was in that, let's go characters.
• 1:24:41
  [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, this is what we have all been waiting for, right?
• 1:24:43
  [SPEAKER_07]: And let's go.
• 1:24:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: It is that time.
• 1:24:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: And actually, we did, we get one more call.
• 1:24:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: It looks like, came in just now.
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  [SPEAKER_07]: Hey, guys, John B. Jenkins called in.
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  [SPEAKER_07]: It's what is probably one of the final same one.
• 1:24:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: I thought we got one more.
• 1:24:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe that was the last one.
• 1:24:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you, John B for
• 1:25:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: uh... your continued support great color when we see dog the hope dealer locksman and the in the calls tonight and the calls you guys it's about to pick up you know i mean as we get football coming back i mean look our numbers have been a little low and all as they did at certain times i think people are catching their breath
• 1:25:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, trying to find some things to get aside about even though think about this is like the Panthers are about to play in this moment, which is going to be a national like on the national stage, the focal point of anybody who cares about football, but it's like this is what the free season is is that even.
• 1:25:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: Even the casual fan knows that the precies and doesn't matter, so much, and it's like really is we are starting to get revved up as you're starting to think about getting your fantasy football drafts and stuff.
• 1:25:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: But when just when the, you know, I mean, it's going to be right around the corner and those calls will be locked and loaded, the post game shows will be going crazy.
• 1:25:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: Hopefully they'll be going crazy with excitement this year.
• 1:26:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: not in frustration.
• 1:26:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: And we hope that the injury bug that is hitting us hits now instead of a later and that somehow maybe they get it out of their system and get things going.
• 1:26:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: I really am excited to see or not.
• 1:26:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if I'm excited as much as I'm anticipating in needing the Panthers to just improve and take a significant step forward.
• 1:26:27
  [SPEAKER_04]: Um, and all eyes are going to be on Bryce, you know, Bryce Young will remain the center of conversation until he's not and if he's when he's not the center of conversation, it's probably going to mean that he's not a panther anymore.
• 1:26:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
• 1:26:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
• 1:26:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: And, um, is that even if he finds if that center pieces success, he will still like you know, heavy as the head that wears the crown.
• 1:26:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: And, um, you know, all all the all the glory goes to the quarterback and all
• 1:26:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: The blame goes to the quarterback in so many ways.
• 1:26:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: So he'll be the conversation until he's not.
• 1:27:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I just hope that conversation this year improves.
• 1:27:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I didn't really hope, like I think KG, my boy Cav said in the chat earlier, KG 73 said, you know, it's like, I really want, I mean, he's got this potential despite, I guess maybe we should do this.
• 1:27:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: Let's, we do have one more couple more things to talk about.
• 1:27:21
  [SPEAKER_04]: Let's talk about this is that athletic put out there.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: quarterback rankings, right?
• 1:27:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: Um, and I'm really pissed.
• 1:27:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: Somehow my payment did not re-go through with the athletic.
• 1:27:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: I just had to re-subscribe.
• 1:27:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't get the student discount anymore.
• 1:27:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I use my, uh, which, um, that, so that sadly, we got a good, we got cheap one year deal right now, but next year's going to be a little bit more expensive.
• 1:27:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: But
• 1:27:53
  [SPEAKER_04]: tier system and actually I'm out here pull this down real quick and then we'll pull that back up Cody I'll just show you they have a three tier system for the quarterbacks or four technically
• 1:28:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: You've got this top tier, which is guys like my homes, burrow, Josh Allen, right?
• 1:28:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: You got some people that slipped out of that top tier.
• 1:28:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm gonna go back, let's see.
• 1:28:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: Some of those slipped out, the top tier is Patrick my homes, Josh Allen, Matt Stafford's tie for two.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Joe Burrow four.
• 1:28:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: Then we've got, then look Lamar Jackson slipped down to tier two.
• 1:28:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: They call it tier two.
• 1:28:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: Guys like Lamar Jackson, Justin Herbert, back press got, Drake Mays in there, Jared Goff.
• 1:28:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: They're saying this is a big fat tier, is the tier two.
• 1:28:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: But if you scroll down to Carroll, Bryce Young, according to, I guess this poll was, let's see how they determined it here.
• 1:28:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: Quarterback tier results for 2020, six year, there's clarity of the top.
• 1:29:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: It did not say our result of our complete commentary from a panel of 50 voters who spoke on the condition of anonymity to share candidate evaluations.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: The panel this year consists of eight general managers, five assistant GM's, five former GM's, three other executives, plus nine head coaches, 10 defensive coordinator,
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  [SPEAKER_04]: five offensive coordinates, two offensive assistants, one defensive assistant and two coaches specializing in analytics and game management.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: 21 execs, 29 coaches determine this in their voting of this tier.
• 1:29:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: Go ahead and wear.
• 1:29:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to pull this down, pull it back up, Bryce Young came in at 20 second.
• 1:29:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: I saw this right before we came into the show.
• 1:29:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: Some
• 1:29:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: There are, look at this, what does a man help me read it?
• 1:29:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so, uh, and uh, my glasses.
• 1:30:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, you're good in Dallas, let's put it back survey.
• 1:30:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: Bryce is ranked 22nd.
• 1:30:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Here are some notable quotes from around the league.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He made a huge jump in 2026.
• 1:30:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: I guess I've been 25, huh?
• 1:30:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: His command is confidence, his accuracy, the movement, it just seems so much more confident as a player.
• 1:30:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was an eye opener for all of us to watch to perform and reflect in in their team.
• 1:30:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: He is when he is physically, he looks like a high school kid off there.
• 1:30:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Dude, that's kind of a dab, but whether it's also kind of true.
• 1:30:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: He needs the athletes around him and they've done a good job surrounding him.
• 1:30:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't necessarily elevate them, but you're puts them in a position to be successful.
• 1:30:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: His anticipation is off the charge, and he is a better runner in the athlete than people giving him credit for.
• 1:30:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what they will pay him, but I think they will pay him and I can't wait.
• 1:31:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: A coach, a rival executive and a former GM, all have these clothes, about Panthers, quarterback, brush, y'all.
• 1:31:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think you can go ahead and I think we probably have read all of these already.
• 1:31:20
  [SPEAKER_04]: I guess they're the person who posted this.
• 1:31:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: This is the one that a rival exec.
• 1:31:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: So I'm guessing when you hear rival exec, you know, maybe someone from the NFC South is saying this.
• 1:31:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know what they will pay him, but I think they will pay him, and I can't wait.
• 1:31:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: If they are married to that no problem, cut Lord, put that in your locker right now, Bryce Young, and go out there and find this man and ruin his life.
• 1:31:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: And by ruining his life, you will make our life on this show even better, right?
• 1:31:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: And Bryce showing now it's time.
• 1:31:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's your time.
• 1:31:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: If there are any questions at the end of this year, that's not going to be good for anybody.
• 1:32:03
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's not going to be good for Bryce Young's paycheck.
• 1:32:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's not going to be good for the Carolina Panthers and then trying to figure out what they're going to do next.
• 1:32:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: We need to answer these questions, solve these issues, and you do that by winning.
• 1:32:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: You do that by winning, and I think the good news for Bryce Young is somehow for the ups and downs is winning will be enough.
• 1:32:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's it.
• 1:32:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: The Panthers go out and win 10 games.
• 1:32:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: It doesn't matter how they went on.
• 1:32:33
  [SPEAKER_04]: It doesn't matter if Bryce Young is throwing 300 yards or fee throwing 180.
• 1:32:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: And they're right like is that those winning is the only way.
• 1:32:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I think that for him, that's going to be cool because winning will be enough for most for most anybody, not saying, oh, well, we won, but Bryce isn't doing this this this isn't throw this.
• 1:32:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: You didn't do that.
• 1:32:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think the opportunities there, but it's going to require the team collectively having success.
• 1:32:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: Cody, I don't know.
• 1:33:01
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think that might be it for tonight's.
• 1:33:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, overall show, right.
• 1:33:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I had one more.
• 1:33:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was just about Jonathan Brooks and J. Tavian Sanders not playing, but.
• 1:33:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
• 1:33:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: All right.
• 1:33:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: Well, we talked about that already.
• 1:33:14
  [SPEAKER_04]: We do have you guys in.
• 1:33:17
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't even know how you would make a pick, right?
• 1:33:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like, imagine this, as you know, you are a gambler if you went out there and you got on the hall.
• 1:33:25
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I'm thinking.
• 1:33:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's like, what do you do?
• 1:33:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: How do you do it?
• 1:33:31
  [SPEAKER_04]: The carolot of Panthers, I think this is, I want to see the Panthers win on Thursday.
• 1:33:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, absolutely.
• 1:33:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't care if it's nobody's or anything.
• 1:33:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: I want them to win.
• 1:33:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: They're playing the worst team in the NFL arguably right now.
• 1:33:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: Um, so I think that will, um, so I'm going to take the Panthers covering the spread.
• 1:33:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: That one and a half winning by 10.
• 1:33:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: Let's say that.
• 1:34:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: I hope Carolina Panthers have a some success.
• 1:34:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm saying, man, maybe three touchdown game, I hope.
• 1:34:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: But do you remember last season, we were losing all these preseason games, and then we were all feeling this dread early.
• 1:34:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, oh man, how much do we just write this off as this is just preseason football?
• 1:34:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: how much does this matter to what we're going to do in this season?
• 1:34:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, all we're going to go from seeing these very vanilla offenses and defenses, and then go into the regular season, and then then feel like, oh, we're still looking at the same shit over here, man.
• 1:34:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know, man.
• 1:34:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's, um,
• 1:34:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: I have this comment from John B. Jenkins.
• 1:34:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: That was Joe Webb, Brandon Wager, fourth quarter magic.
• 1:34:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: Remember, Brandon Wager was a, he killed it in the pre-season.
• 1:34:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think it was the two touchdowns or three touchdowns in the game.
• 1:34:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was the OG.
• 1:34:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: My boy running back.
• 1:34:57
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he was a, all right, man.
• 1:34:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think I want to say we had him on the show.
• 1:35:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: I can't remember if we did or not.
• 1:35:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: I have his phone number.
• 1:35:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: By the way, I have Brandon Wager's phone number.
• 1:35:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: Is there at least that it used to be his phone number?
• 1:35:12
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm pretty sure we didn't have them on the show or something, but CK, they always say the score doesn't matter in the preseason, but you know, the Ravens had this like undefeated streak in the preseason.
• 1:35:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm sure that they didn't mind winning those games.
• 1:35:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, that's, there's something to, you know, just to be able to have that record and keep that record, I guess, but, you know, what I would say and I think everybody on this panel would agree that maybe the most important thing about this game is going to be that we're going to allow Bradets to get some play calling duties and get that under his belt in a real time game environment like this and and allow him to kind of
• 1:35:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: get used to that that progression last year.
• 1:35:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think he got an opportunity to do that a little bit.
• 1:35:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know if it's the same when you're not expecting to do that in the actual season.
• 1:36:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I think this will be a good kind of a dress rehearsal for him.
• 1:36:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I agree.
• 1:36:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: All right, guys, let's, that's basically it.
• 1:36:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: Let's go ahead and
• 1:36:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: I am.
• 1:36:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, I will be back for Tuesdays show next week though, and I will be watching from afar.
• 1:36:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm sure you've got it covered.
• 1:36:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: Watch along on Thursday for the C3 Patriots podcast, Hall of Fame game, congrats to Luke Keekely.
• 1:36:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: Final segment of the show, where we ice some fools up.
• 1:36:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's our time.
• 1:36:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: So our homage to Steve Smith, where we tell
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if you guys have seen this.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: No.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: All right.
• 1:37:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: This guy, if you're listening on a jet ski, then hops over the engine.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: He's riding his jet ski backwards, but he looks like you pass his out.
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• 1:38:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: Look at that, he hit that knot right between those two posts.
• 1:38:07
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• 1:38:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: Look at this, he looks at him, look at him out, look, he's smiling, this is awesome.
• 1:38:15
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• 1:39:20
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• 1:39:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god.
• 1:39:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: So did you ever find out like what happened to my buddy like that?
• 1:39:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: Now I just saw that I mean, it's like anything I watched it.
• 1:39:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: I was a lucky fortunate that I saw another video like another post where it said he was all right.
• 1:39:47
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• 1:39:50
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• 1:39:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: But he did really hit it perfectly.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: It's true through those two posts.
• 1:40:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: Passing out backwards on a jet ski and then, but not icing up the fact that he did it the most perfect way if you're going to do it and almost died, he's strangely all right.
• 1:40:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: Did you see Dave point.
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• 1:40:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if this is, I said, I don't know what to say other than this because Dave, Dave, port, no, it has beef with the world's right like he has.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: he hates me in a time, he hates like I mean he he's got all I mean and he goes hard to pay well one of his beef is about WMBA you hate to the WMBA he said that he would pay he said he would challenge any team in the in the WMBA
• 1:40:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: to play, to beat a high school boy's basketball team.
• 1:40:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: He said that we paid $10 million if they did it.
• 1:40:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think that my demand cleared Travis.
• 1:41:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think it was, I think it was, I think it was, I think it was,
• 1:41:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: They're almost like the same person except for Clayton.
• 1:41:10
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's kind of like polished.
• 1:41:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: And like smart and day port noise is like the redneck version of Clay Travis.
• 1:41:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Clayton Travis is hilarious.
• 1:41:22
  [SPEAKER_04]: And I guess if you want another is Jake Paul keeps going on about how he can catch it in a Phil touchdown, but no NFL player can box.
• 1:41:30
  [SPEAKER_04]: or Logan, but whichever the box here was.
• 1:41:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: So there's my, that's why I said, I have one.
• 1:41:34
  [SPEAKER_04]: We watched the video.
• 1:41:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: You guys go ahead with yours.
• 1:41:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
• 1:41:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, mine's pretty quick.
• 1:41:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, I'm not, yeah, it was like, yeah, it was like Travis.
• 1:41:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was a clever Travis.
• 1:41:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um,
• 1:41:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right, so I'm not posting this for the politics of it just for the serial area of it.
• 1:41:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: So a Hawaii Democrat congressional candidate, Carole Basin, was arrested for threatening a man with a knife after he was asked to turn down his volume of the music at the beach.
• 1:42:16
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• 1:42:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: We go.
• 1:42:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's like nice.
• 1:42:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's like, he'll be nice.
• 1:42:46
  [SPEAKER_04]: And then I like I put some in his place at the end.
• 1:42:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: I can't make myself.
• 1:42:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: So he was, there was a asker just to turn his music down.
• 1:42:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then he wanted to go off the rails.
• 1:42:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: And it was threatening people to kick people's ass and the,
• 1:43:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: the best part is right before it does it you see I'm getting ready to pick up a chair and smash the chair over the
• 1:43:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: One thing if KG73 is still in the chat, Palette here with 30% pop today, but hey, what a go on that.
• 1:43:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: It's been sick quiet for a minute and crazy revenue credit second quarter calling and I open my
• 1:43:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: app and I said, what the hell happened?
• 1:43:49
  [SPEAKER_04]: Well, Palantir happens, which I'm more of it.
• 1:43:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: CK, what you got for us on the ice?
• 1:43:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, yeah, so I'm going to get a little political.
• 1:43:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, somebody, I know if he wants me to go into the Aaron Rogers.
• 1:44:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'll be honest, I did not watch that clip yet.
• 1:44:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, but I've heard a lot about it.
• 1:44:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, so I don't really have anything to say about that when I did hear somebody talking about something he said, which I think is relevant to the podcast and that is, um, why that isn't being talked about in the media at all, anywhere for any reason, even in the slightest, they haven't brought it up and they're not talking about the fact that,
• 1:44:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: that there was this relationship that a coach was having with a reporter who has a vote for regarding the MVPs, the coach of the year, all of this stuff, and they're not talking about how this could have a major in, like that could have been the difference between somebody getting the MVP that deserved it, and somebody in the Patriots getting the MVP because of who they were sleeping with.
• 1:44:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, and so I know that that's a bit of a, you know, maybe not something that most you will find to be incredibly, you know, moving, but that's unbulled, that's ridiculous.
• 1:45:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it is a very good point that Aaron Rodgers was making, which is that this is not being talked about anywhere.
• 1:45:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, and tell us why, because it's massive, it's a massive problem.
• 1:45:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, and it's something I didn't even think about to be fair, but my real I sub is going to be another political thing and I have a firm belief that in
• 1:45:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: when it comes to voting, you should be required to provide ID.
• 1:45:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't even think that's something you could argue against.
• 1:45:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: And any argument against it, I can't fathom, because it's either comes across as racist, or you're really hoping that people who can't vote are able to vote in their voting for your party.
• 1:45:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's no other reason.
• 1:45:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: I can't argue with it.
• 1:45:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: I can't give
• 1:45:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: I can't, I can't fathom what you could say otherwise and make it make sense at the very least.
• 1:46:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so the point being is when you hear the left side of the aisle a lot of times, they don't want voter idea for voting and all of this.
• 1:46:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm saying they generalistically, I know that most people probably look at this as there should be comments and restrictions when it comes to voting.
• 1:46:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: when you're looking in New York and the new mayor of Monta, Mayor Montani.
• 1:46:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's a firm believer.
• 1:46:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: You should not have an ID.
• 1:46:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: You should be able to just vote.
• 1:46:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: You shouldn't have an ID.
• 1:46:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's no, like, has no belief in voter ID at all.
• 1:46:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: And but he was asked because they're having this grocery store thing that they're going to be a city provide grocery store for because they're, again, keep in mind he is a, he has a public socialist he believes that there should be, you know, essentially us, uh,
• 1:47:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: for the most part.
• 1:47:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so the idea is that the government should be providing food to everybody.
• 1:47:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so what these grocery stores are providing the citizens of New York City essentially groceries at and I'm not mistaken if that could be wrong on this, but it no,
• 1:47:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: no cost to New York City residents outside of maybe the taxes they're paying.
• 1:47:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, it's a cost to the New York City residents.
• 1:47:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 1:47:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 1:47:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 1:47:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: And but here's here's the thing where it gets really hypocritical.
• 1:47:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: He was, they were asked during one of their, their press conferences regarding these stores that they were about to open how they would handle people possibly coming in from New Jersey to take advantage of it and take those groceries back to New Jersey and sell because they're not having to worry about it and I kid you not his administration said well people would be required to provide their ID to be able to get access to the grocery store.
• 1:48:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: So you're telling me this government funded grocery store requires an ID because there's a potential that people are going to defraud it, but you're saying that that's not a possibility when it comes to voter ID.
• 1:48:21
  [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I think this is North Carolina said a history like I think North Carolina led the charge and trying to, you know, revamp their voter ID rules and some things like that.
• 1:48:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: It got struck down constitutionally in North Carolina, but.
• 1:48:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, I mean, when you bring up New York, it's like a different kind of scenario, because like the South is still under or used was the voters write a voting rights act of 1965, you know, put them under like federal oversight in the South because there was so much
• 1:48:53
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, trickery and massaging of the voting system to be racially bent, right?
• 1:49:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: And so one of the ways is that if you look historically as you use these tactics to encourage some people to vote and discourage some people to vote.
• 1:49:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: So in North Carolina,
• 1:49:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: back in 2010 when we got the Tea Party coming in, it's very conservative movement in North Carolina.
• 1:49:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: They really did put this push and it's not just one thing, okay, in this case, it's like it's not just like, oh, you show an ID, it's like, hey, they strike early voting.
• 1:49:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: right because here's the thing is if you have like true historically if you only vote on one day right is the rich get to vote at a higher rate than the poor because maybe they can't get you the day off or something to that effect.
• 1:49:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: It took away early voting on Sunday's well in the black community who votes Democrat still in North Carolina well I mean these the black community shows up for voting because of these historical
• 1:49:53
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, like, I mean, I really value it in so much of a case in that right because it was denied for so long.
• 1:49:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: So they took it away on Sunday.
• 1:50:00
  [SPEAKER_04]: So like no one thing is kind of like German during the system.
• 1:50:07
  [SPEAKER_04]: When it comes to me is the vote with the ID is I don't know it's like is why do we take the ID out of it because it's not like it's like hey I mean you can't show a library core, but you have to show a driver's license what if you don't have a driver's license stuff like this Why can't you just vote with your fucking social security number?
• 1:50:26
  [SPEAKER_04]: you know, and like that's it.
• 1:50:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's, I mean, the reason against that, though, is there are people that have been deceased that have been, like if that people have their social security.
• 1:50:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I mean, that's so, so got to be such a small, my new part of the population.
• 1:50:42
  [SPEAKER_04]: If we can go and open a bank account with just basically our social security number in our name online.
• 1:50:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: Why is it?
• 1:50:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: Like, I mean, I think you could solve it with a lot.
• 1:50:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: You know, I mean, but
• 1:50:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's like just recently in New Jersey, they found like 40 or 400 people that should have been voting on on voter.
• 1:51:05
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, it took us less than one percent.
• 1:51:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think a lot of that is exaggerated in some ways.
• 1:51:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: I also both say that if no one can ever check it, if no one can or audit that look at that information, how did you ever really know how many people who aren't supposed to be voting actually or not voting.
• 1:51:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: I did want to say this.
• 1:51:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: We can't bank online, why can't we vote online?
• 1:51:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, but I'm gonna say this though, like the fact that buying groceries or that didn't just show what I did for it.
• 1:51:36
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's not, I mean, that's not a right thing.
• 1:51:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, that's not a right thing that it's protecting.
• 1:51:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: It shows you that everybody is using these things.
• 1:51:48
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's the problem CK is like, I mean, you're pulling this out and I agree.
• 1:51:52
  [SPEAKER_04]: But nobody's doing it for the real.
• 1:51:56
  [SPEAKER_04]: goal, right, is like to strengthen the democratic system.
• 1:51:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: Is everybody's got some sort of angle and instead of just trying to make our republic a stronger place, my whole morning, a couple of weeks ago, I had a podcast, though, that when you ask these people, like, I'm dying to be about these stores that are opening up.
• 1:52:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: They love, you know, when you ask them about what about the family owned bodegas that you're going to put out the business because they actually have to price their goods at market value and they're not going to be able to compete and then those businesses go out of the business.
• 1:52:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, so it's okay when a government runs stored does it, but you hate it when it's a Amazon or a Walmart
• 1:52:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: So it's just so hypocritical, when they pick and choose, when they do and don't like cut, don't capitalism.
• 1:52:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's just, it's a pie, Chris, and man.
• 1:52:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so my point, and this is a firm belief that I hold in my life, and when I work in my job and in every part of my life, right?
• 1:53:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: I want everything to be.
• 1:53:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: If there is a way that we can make things work effectively in an affair way, that's what I want.
• 1:53:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: right and and the reality is if we if we don't the voter ID, it's still possible that somebody could take advantage of that, right?
• 1:53:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: Even if they had the ID, it would still be possibility.
• 1:53:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I can tell you, it's a lot more likely that you're going to introduce, even if it's a minute, my, my new amount of fraud, there will be fraud.
• 1:53:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: There is no doubt about it.
• 1:53:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: We've seen that, you know, even in it might be 1%, it might be 10% who knows.
• 1:53:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
• 1:53:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that they really know what numbers are real and what's not.
• 1:53:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I do think that it's fair to say that if there is a higher potential of fraud, we should do everything in our power to remove or at least make it.
• 1:53:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, in a reasonable way, which in my mind is an ID, because if they can, you're right, you know, people can open up their bank accounts online.
• 1:54:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: They can also order their ID online.
• 1:54:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: They can also go to the DMV and get just a state or a license if it's not driver's license.
• 1:54:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: You have avenues to be able to do it.
• 1:54:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: And the argument a lot of people have is that people of a certain culture in the minority groups are not able to get these IDs.
• 1:54:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: And when you ask people in those groups, do you know how to get an ID?
• 1:54:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Every one of them right now, I mean, of course I know how to get the knife.
• 1:54:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, when somebody told you you're not likely to be able to get an ID, they're going to say, well, that's just because you're in that group of minorities.
• 1:54:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I don't, I just don't trust any, not you in the sense of what these people that are saying, they're trying to make the democratic process better.
• 1:54:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: Ultimately, somebody, everybody is trying to get some sort of advantage.
• 1:54:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, Jerry, Manor, and stuff like that.
• 1:54:59
  [SPEAKER_04]: What we really need to do to be honest is to, you are improving the integrity of the voting is to improve the integrity and the knowledge of the voter.
• 1:55:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: and instead we just vote a bunch of idiots on both sides in no matter what we don't we're not ever and that was really interested in the society is that's why like they're interesting and it's it's right now the politics have become sports
• 1:55:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: it doesn't matter whether or not we like the people on our team.
• 1:55:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: We want our people to win.
• 1:55:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: We want our team to win, right?
• 1:55:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Same same concept I think in politics.
• 1:55:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of people just stay so isolated on their side of the the aisle that they will not look at anything other than whether or not that person has an R or a D next to their their their name on the ballot.
• 1:55:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that part does, that is disturbing, but I also think if we're going to be able, if that's how people, if that's how our country's going to operate, it needs to be operated in a fair way, and that's my ultimate, you know, right with the idea of not, you know, having the vote.
• 1:56:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: So to your point.
• 1:56:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's really a thing.
• 1:56:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, if you have the card, I could understand that maybe to a degree.
• 1:56:19
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, if anybody knows you're such a security number, you get screwed.
• 1:56:23
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
• 1:56:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: I just, it's all, it's all bogus.
• 1:56:28
  [SPEAKER_04]: I just don't know.
• 1:56:29
  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I, I, I understand your point that I don't mean to me.
• 1:56:32
  [SPEAKER_04]: Anything wrong with calling for improvements to the democratic system.
• 1:56:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: I agree.
• 1:56:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think we have some we have to come back to center at some point, right?
• 1:56:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: It can't go the round of where that, you know, right now socialism is going, which is nobody needs to provide anything.
• 1:56:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: You just come and give them your name and if you're on the list, you're good, go ahead and vote, right?
• 1:56:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: I just know this has been going on in North Carolina way before Trump came around and the
• 1:57:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: It just I don't really buy and I don't really believe anybody in our government does anything for the right reasons and I hate the North Carolina legislature more than anybody and they have been dominated by the Republicans for since 20 to So, and not because I'm anti-R?
• 1:57:22
  [SPEAKER_04]: They couldn't even pass a budget for a whole year.
• 1:57:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, Roy Cooper is about to become the new standard or going away.
• 1:57:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: There's one you've been being, there won't even be a competition, but there's your daily dose of C3 politics, man.
• 1:57:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: There you go.
• 1:57:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
• 1:57:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: He said he wasn't going to do any politics.
• 1:57:41
  [SPEAKER_04]: CK got him back in the ring.
• 1:57:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:57:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: My name's Toby Don, that's Cody Lashney.
• 1:57:46
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