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Maxx Crosby Trade Fallout, 49ers Land Osa, Chiefs Add Kenneth Walker & Dad Diaries Returns · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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Speaker 1: The volume. What is going on everybody? How are we doing?
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Speaker 1: Hopefully everyone is doing well. I'm John Middlecoff this three
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Speaker 1: and Out podcast and I just recorded a big podcast.
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Speaker 1: So here's the deal. We were gonna dive deep into
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Speaker 1: the Max Crosby Ravens, the angles from the two teams,
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Speaker 1: the tampering period, just that situation. Forty nine Ers made
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Speaker 1: a trade, I think on the podcast, I said the
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Speaker 1: Packers traded for Hardgrave. He got cut, then they signed him,
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Speaker 1: but regardless, he's a Packer. Bill's signed Bradley Chubb. Some
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Speaker 1: thoughts on the Chiefs. We got some quarterback dots on
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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. I mean that guy talk about highway robbery.
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Speaker 1: His agent deserves a race. Whatever the going rate of
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Speaker 1: an agent is for an NFL players, it's typically pretty low,
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Speaker 1: a couple percent. That guy deserves like fifty. Daniel Jones
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Speaker 1: agent is one of the great businessmen of all time,
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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins to the Raiders and some Dad diaries. We
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Speaker 1: haven't done that in a while, so we'll try to
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Speaker 1: bang that out today. We'll have Fugazi Friday tomorrow and
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Speaker 1: other than that, just grinding along. So I'll be on
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Speaker 1: the herd with Colin on Friday, filling in just I'll
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Speaker 1: be down in LA for like twenty four hours, so
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Speaker 1: a quick little trip so you can catch me on
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Speaker 1: the herd and we'll have a podcast out on Friday.
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Speaker 1: Like I said, but so nothing changes. We'll keep charging along,
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Speaker 1: We'll keep swinging our pick and you guys know the drill.
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Speaker 1: so it might have one reacting to the players on
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Speaker 1: Sunday off to figure out my schedule this week. Maybe
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Speaker 1: things die down with football so that that is definitely
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Speaker 1: potentially in the works. But let's just dive right into
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Speaker 1: the Max Crosby fiasco. I mean, the simple reality of
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Speaker 1: the tampering period, which essentially is free agency. Right when
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Speaker 1: these deals get done on Monday and Tuesday before the
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Speaker 1: league year starts, there's not much change after that. And
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Speaker 1: let's be real, once you get I mean, I'm recording
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Speaker 1: this Wednesday afternoon. Things have coming to a screeching halt.
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Speaker 1: All the guys are off the board beside like a
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Speaker 1: potential AJ Brown trade. And it's very rare that a
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Speaker 1: guy signs a contract and changes his mind in those
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Speaker 1: twenty four to forty eight hours. Why and I've said
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Speaker 1: this forever, the unofficial tampering period starts at the combine.
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Speaker 1: So when these deals start flying on Monday, with Schefter
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Speaker 1: in that cave, with McAfee pumping out these deals, it's
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Speaker 1: because the market has been established for a couple of weeks.
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Speaker 1: You don't commit to something for twenty thirty to fifty
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Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars without knowing that's the most money
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Speaker 1: you can get, or that's the best deal you can get,
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Speaker 1: or when you see the different deals, that's the deal
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Speaker 1: you want to take. Like a Mike Evans, right, you
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Speaker 1: have a pretty good idea, you have a very good idea.
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Speaker 1: You don't have an idea you know for a fact,
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Speaker 1: like this is the this, these are the three offers,
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Speaker 1: This is the best offer. This is where I want
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Speaker 1: to play. I saw the bill Center said like, probably
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Speaker 1: could have got more money elsewhere. I can live on
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Speaker 1: thirteen million dollars a year. This is where I want
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Speaker 1: to be. So these guys are making financial decisions with
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Speaker 1: their agents whose job at the combine, which you know,
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Speaker 1: for me, you're bsing with people, having some cocktails, doing
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Speaker 1: some interviews, having a good time for the Howie Rosemans.
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Speaker 1: For all the gms, it's meeting with agent after agent
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Speaker 1: after agent after agent. And I remember being at some
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Speaker 1: drinks my first night there with a couples and they
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Speaker 1: just said, these agent meetings are exhausting because at that time,
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Speaker 1: at the end of February, they're just throwing out numbers
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Speaker 1: because they don't necessarily know in concrete what the market
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Speaker 1: is gonna be. I remember hearing a story it's like, well,
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Speaker 1: what do you think your guy wants? He's like, saw
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Speaker 1: them somewhere between eight to thirteen million. He's like, well,
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Speaker 1: what's the number. Well, they don't know. And then after
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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks talking to all of the different gms,
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Speaker 1: they could get more specific. Well we got something on
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Speaker 1: you know, in hand for twelve million dollars a year,
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Speaker 1: a four year deal, right, and then you kind of
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Speaker 1: work from there like this is as high as we
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Speaker 1: can go. This is what we're willing to do, and
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Speaker 1: we typically don't see and I think a lot of it.
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Speaker 1: You know, in the Crosby situation, which is a trade,
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Speaker 1: which is different than a contract, but there is so
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Speaker 1: much on the line. I mean, Max Crosby makes thirty
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Speaker 1: million dollars a year. They were giving up multiple first
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Speaker 1: round picks, which the Ravens have never done. You saw
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Speaker 1: some of these deals, Alec Pierce, Linderbaum, I mean Ja Phillips.
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Speaker 1: We're talking astronomical amounts of money. Jalen Phillips got eighty
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Speaker 1: million dollars guaranteed. He got one hundred and twenty million
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Speaker 1: dollars Lindardbaum. You know, depending on who you talk to.
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Speaker 1: I think I thought he was a really good center.
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Speaker 1: You know, some people think he's a little overrated. Making
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Speaker 1: twenty seven million dollars a year. I mean, these are
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Speaker 1: these are large sums of money in the National Football League,
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Speaker 1: especially for non quarterbacks of center. Right, So you saw
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Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant, the safety go to the Bears. He's signed
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Speaker 1: a three year deal at forty three million dollars. I mean,
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Speaker 1: you do the math. You're talking like thirteen fourteen million
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Speaker 1: dollars a year. This is a lot of money. So
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Speaker 1: typically when I commit and I say I'm in. I'm
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Speaker 1: in because like, this is too much money to screw around.
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Speaker 1: I don't want to operate in bad faith. And one
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Speaker 1: thing just talking to some of the gms, and it's
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Speaker 1: been well established by the reporters. Albert Breer has been
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Speaker 1: talking about this. When you make a trade, you exchange
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Speaker 1: injury information. Here are MRI scans, Here are all the
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Speaker 1: the X rays we have. You give it to the
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Speaker 1: team so they have that information, you know, a week
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Speaker 1: ago or whenever the trade came to fruition on Thursday
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Speaker 1: or Friday, over the course of the weekend. The Ravens
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Speaker 1: have that information. Now, you could argue, once you get
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Speaker 1: your hands on a guy, once your team doctor sees them,
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Speaker 1: maybe they have a different opinion. But you have that information.
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Speaker 1: And these deals are not done with like hey, I'm
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Speaker 1: giving you a Ferrari and then all of a sudden
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Speaker 1: you look outside and it's a Honda Cord. Like you
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Speaker 1: know what you're getting. The transparency in this league when
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Speaker 1: it comes to deals, from what I have heard, is
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Speaker 1: really really high. And the Max Crosby thing was well established.
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Speaker 1: So when the Ravens pulled the trigger, at least we
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Speaker 1: thought like they knew it was a risk. There's always
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Speaker 1: a risk. I mean, hell, the Packers just traded for
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Speaker 1: an in his prime, all time great speed rusher towards
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Speaker 1: ACL in the middle of the season. It's football, You
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Speaker 1: never know. And I think the big thing that sent
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Speaker 1: rattles and really just sent ripple effects throughout the league
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Speaker 1: was nothing is guaranteed, and at any moment in this time,
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Speaker 1: we've become I don't want to say complacent, but you
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Speaker 1: just think when you get a yes in the time
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Speaker 1: when it's not actually official, you just assume it's a yes.
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Speaker 1: And the Raiders continue to do business. Everyone continued to
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Speaker 1: do business except the Ravens. And that's where I will
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Speaker 1: start because Eric DeCosta talk today pretty vague. I mean,
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Speaker 1: he did not get in his specifics by any means
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Speaker 1: in terms of what they saw, what gave them pause.
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Speaker 1: Basically just gave the corporate cliche answer, I got to
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Speaker 1: do what's best for the Baltimore Ravens, which is true,
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Speaker 1: which his job is not to be liked by all
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Speaker 1: the other thirty one teams. His job is to do
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Speaker 1: whatever he can and the best interest of the Baltimore Ravens.
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Speaker 1: But I think as we sit here today, no one
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Speaker 1: could argue that he got cold feet because he knew
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Speaker 1: he got a guy who was coming off an injury.
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Speaker 1: He already had the medical information. Now did they see
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Speaker 1: something to go, well, hell, in a couple years, this
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Speaker 1: guy could get arthritis, could get a degenerate knee, and
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Speaker 1: that gave them pause. Did they see all the talk
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Speaker 1: online of like, oh my god, they kind of got
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Speaker 1: fleeced a twenty nine year old guy for the fourteenth
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Speaker 1: overall pick and a number one next year, because let's
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Speaker 1: face it, they were kind of getting universally crushed in
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Speaker 1: the sense of they gave up a lot. Who in
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Speaker 1: the league could have got close to that And the
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Speaker 1: answer was nobody, because none of the bad teams were
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Speaker 1: making that trade, and from what it looked like, that
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Speaker 1: was the only offer where they had two first round
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Speaker 1: picks on the table. And I also think to lay
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Speaker 1: this out, you do have to understand Eric Dacosta's standing
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Speaker 1: within the league. Obviously, he's been with the Ravens forever.
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Speaker 1: I mean I think he was with the originally the
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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns way back in the day with Bill Belichick.
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Speaker 1: He's been a part of this organization for decades. I
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Speaker 1: wouldn't say he is the most well liked guy in
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Speaker 1: the league. I went up to him at the combine,
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Speaker 1: tried to introduce myself to put him my eye lose.
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Speaker 1: He's pretty cold, which I'm not holding that against him.
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Speaker 1: Doesn't know me from Adam, clearly doesn't listen to the show. Whatever.
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Speaker 1: I don't necessarily care. But people that I know have
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Speaker 1: never had great things to say about him. I've always
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Speaker 1: defended people in business like you hear these stories of
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Speaker 1: like that guy is a complete asshole. Sometimes it's jealousy,
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Speaker 1: like I've seen that for years when I was growing up.
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Speaker 1: Anyone that lives in a town and you do business,
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Speaker 1: there are gonna be people in your industry or people
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Speaker 1: that you know through friends who are successful in life
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Speaker 1: that everyone thinks is a scumback who everyone thinks is
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Speaker 1: nasshul who A consistent theme is you can't trust that guy.
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Speaker 1: And maybe it's true, and sometimes it's one hundred percent true,
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Speaker 1: and sometimes perception can take on a life of its own.
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Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, if I run
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Speaker 1: a company, if I run a foot, if I run
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Speaker 1: my family, I have to think about myself first and foremost.
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Speaker 1: Now you can argue, in any walk of life, there's
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Speaker 1: a way to conduct yourself and there's a way to
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Speaker 1: do business. And clearly this felt a little abnormal. This
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Speaker 1: felt like not only he got cold feet, but he
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Speaker 1: completely fucked the Raiders because the Raiders had done business
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Speaker 1: with the thought that Max was on their team and
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Speaker 1: that they have these picks for several days. It wasn't
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Speaker 1: one of those like twelve hours later, say what you
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Speaker 1: want about, you know, a Josh McDaniels or some of
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Speaker 1: the situations where a coach gets cold feet, It usually
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Speaker 1: happens pretty quick. This lingered for a while, and it
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Speaker 1: lingered now. Part of it was Max had something over
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Speaker 1: the weekend, didn't even get there till Monday night, and
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Speaker 1: then was in the facility Tuesday, and Diana Rossini reported
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Speaker 1: today that they started getting weird vibes. And I think
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Speaker 1: the number one thing people thought when this went down
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Speaker 1: yesterday is like, well, who are they gonna sign? And
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Speaker 1: part of it was Trey Hendrickson's market had plummeted relative
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Speaker 1: he thought he was gonna get like three years, one
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Speaker 1: hundred and twenty million and forty million dollars a year.
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Speaker 1: It's like, bro, you're thirty two years old, coming off
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Speaker 1: a major injury, and his market was really, really slow. Well,
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Speaker 1: who had a front row seat to that, Eric DaCosta,
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Speaker 1: So he's in there. They start negotiating with Trey Hendrickson.
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Speaker 1: Da Costa claims that he was gonna sign him. Both
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Speaker 1: hard to believe. You're gonna have multiple You're gonna have
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Speaker 1: two pass rushers making a combined sixty million dollars. Hard
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Speaker 1: to see, But I think it's pretty clear. You don't
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Speaker 1: need to be a conspiracy theorists to say they saw it.
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Speaker 1: They started thinking twice about their picks. They knew they
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Speaker 1: could get trade for cheaper. But to say and I
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Speaker 1: saw rap, She'd say this. There's no such thing as
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Speaker 1: a failed physical, right, you can fail and in a
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Speaker 1: is inspection, right on a home, on a car. Physicals
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Speaker 1: are subjective, you see things. It's well documented Max Crosby
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Speaker 1: is going to be able to play in twenty twenty
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Speaker 1: six one hundred percent fully healthy based on his injury.
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Speaker 1: Their thinking, which is pretty clear, is big picture. Can
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Speaker 1: he maintain it over the next couple of years. That's
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Speaker 1: their argument. Yet they signed a guy in Hendrickson who
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Speaker 1: just missed half the season and had a surgery, and
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Speaker 1: who's also three years older. So I think we just
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Speaker 1: have to lay it on the table. And DaCosta doesn't
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Speaker 1: want to look like a bad guy publicly, even though
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Speaker 1: he's already getting crushed. He can just say, hey, we
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Speaker 1: had planned on signing them both. I was already talking
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Speaker 1: to him before we saw Max. But it sure looks
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Speaker 1: to me like they start getting their hands on Max,
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Speaker 1: they start having second thoughts. Maybe they had second thoughts
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Speaker 1: before even entered their building because of how much they
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Speaker 1: gave up, and everyone's saying, no one would give up
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Speaker 1: this much for an older player, and they go, well,
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Speaker 1: we can just have an older pass rusher and keep
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Speaker 1: our picks. And that's obviously what they decided to do.
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Speaker 1: But this other notion of and then this goes back
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Speaker 1: to the scumbag thing, like oh, everyone thinks so and
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Speaker 1: so's a scumbag. It's like, well, no one will ever
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Speaker 1: do business with him. Well does he have anything to offer?
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Speaker 1: Because I've heard that forever and usually those guys maintain
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Speaker 1: being successful why because they typically have something that other
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Speaker 1: people want, whatever company or industry. They're in this notion
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Speaker 1: that no one will do business moving forward because they
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Speaker 1: don't trust Eric Tacosta to me is bullshit? Is Eric?
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Speaker 1: Are the Ravens offering a lot of money? Are the
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Speaker 1: Ravens willing to trade for whatever player more than another team?
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Speaker 1: People will gladly do business with them. It's a cutthroat world,
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Speaker 1: and scummy things happen and shady things happen, which clearly
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Speaker 1: happened here. And I don't think it's really debatable that
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Speaker 1: he started looking at his two options with a lot
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Speaker 1: of humans do in a lot of different walks of life,
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Speaker 1: and when I'm gonna go with the better option because
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Speaker 1: I'm not bound by this one. I was talking. I
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Speaker 1: was trying to explain to my wife last night this situation.
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Speaker 1: And she works in real estate. She sees deals fall through,
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Speaker 1: like multiple times a home like She is consistently used
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Speaker 1: to seeing deals not get completed. Sometimes just sell a
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Speaker 1: home and it doesn't even matter the price point. It
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Speaker 1: could be eight hundred grand or could be a ten
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Speaker 1: million dollar home. Did people back out and until you're
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Speaker 1: legally bound or there's like money on the line that
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Speaker 1: you're not gonna get back that people have cold feet
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Speaker 1: all the time. He had cold feet. He pulled out
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Speaker 1: and because of the setup of the league year. He's
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Speaker 1: not technically bound by anything. So did he break unwritten rules? Sure?
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Speaker 1: Did he break actual rules? He did not. It's why
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Speaker 1: he was able to back up do a press conference
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Speaker 1: sign another guy. And at the end of the day,
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Speaker 1: I think he'd argue, there's no blood on my hands.
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Speaker 1: You could be mad at me, but I made the
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Speaker 1: right decision for the organization. Now we can debate, like
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Speaker 1: you knew when you've originally pulled the trigger on this
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Speaker 1: trade what you were getting, right, obviously a really good player,
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Speaker 1: but he was an injured player. He was an older
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Speaker 1: player relative to a lot of position players who had
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Speaker 1: been traded for a similar Haule Right, the Khalil Max,
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Speaker 1: the Jalen Ramseys, those type guys in the prime of
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Speaker 1: their career. And maybe you had too many days to
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Speaker 1: think about it. Maybe this deal goes through if several
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Speaker 1: days ago, Max just shows up on a Monday and
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Speaker 1: they just are in the momentum of it and they
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Speaker 1: go with it. But he had several nights to think
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Speaker 1: about it. He saw Trey's market diminish from what he
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Speaker 1: probably thought it was originally gonna be. But this notion
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Speaker 1: that he was gonna sign both guys. I honestly have
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Speaker 1: a hard time with that. I really do. I'm actually
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Speaker 1: gonna call bullshit on that one, and I think anyone
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Speaker 1: with a working brain will too. But I understand him
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Speaker 1: saying that he's got to say something, he's got a lie.
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Speaker 1: But I also think, like there are a lot of
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Speaker 1: guys in this league that are just well liked or
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Speaker 1: a guy that you feel comfortable doing a deal with,
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Speaker 1: Like this guy kind of has a track wreck. Now.
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Speaker 1: I saw Will Compton posted something yesterday for those of
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Speaker 1: you old enough to remember a wide receiver named Ryan
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Speaker 1: Grant who was on the Redskins at the time, and
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Speaker 1: as Will said, he played with him, played four years,
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Speaker 1: never missed a game, signed like a four year, thirty
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Speaker 1: million dollar deal with the Ravens, and within twenty four hours,
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Speaker 1: Michael Crabtree, who was on the Raiders, got cut and
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Speaker 1: became available. So they failed him in his physical, AKA
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Speaker 1: said we're out of the deal and signed Michael Crabtree.
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Speaker 1: They did it a couple of years ago with Michael Brockers.
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Speaker 1: They backed out. Michael Brockers went on to start every
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Speaker 1: game for the next couple of years, so he has
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Speaker 1: a track record of backing out of deals when he
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Speaker 1: sees that he has a that he views a better option.
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Speaker 1: And you know, talking to people in the league, their
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Speaker 1: issue is there's a transparency of like, your cold feet
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Speaker 1: have to be determined as we're negotiating the deal. But
16:57
Speaker 1: once you give the go ahead on the deal, especially
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Speaker 1: something of this magnitude, which has clearly never happened. Right,
17:05
Speaker 1: there's one thing you know that the example being used
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Speaker 1: is Drew Brees with Nick Saban. That was just a
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Speaker 1: free agent signing. Obviously, Nick Saban, the Miami Dolphins made
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Speaker 1: the wrong decision. But the Raiders didn't even just start
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Speaker 1: operating from a position of who we're gonna sign without
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Speaker 1: Max's money. But I'm sure started utilizing their free agency
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Speaker 1: plans knowing they had the fourteenth pick. I mean, this
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Speaker 1: was Saturday, Sunday, Monday. I mean you're talking three and
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Speaker 1: a half days in the busiest time of the year.
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Speaker 1: That might as well be a month. So I think
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Speaker 1: it's really fucked up. I think people will bad mouth
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Speaker 1: Eric Tacosta, but if his owner doesn't care, why does
17:47
Speaker 1: he care? And there are a lot of people in
17:49
Speaker 1: all the towns that we live in who make a
17:52
Speaker 1: lot of money and do really well in life that
17:54
Speaker 1: everyone thinks the completes come back. And maybe that's the
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Speaker 1: case with Eric Tacosta. I know this A lot of
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Speaker 1: those people people sleep fine night. Whether you agree or
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Speaker 1: disagree with him. They don't give a fuck. And do
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Speaker 1: I think he gives a shit? I do not. I
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Speaker 1: honestly do not, because I think it's in his kind
18:11
Speaker 1: of nature to be like this and part of as
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Speaker 1: a GM. And I'm not even defending it. I'm just saying,
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Speaker 1: like I get it, like I see it, and from
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Speaker 1: everything I've heard, this is very on brand with the individual.
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Speaker 1: But this notion that no one's gonna do anything with
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Speaker 1: the Ravens ever again, give me a break. What a joke.
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Speaker 1: And I also think from the Raider side and people
18:35
Speaker 1: like a lot of people are at fault here, like no,
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Speaker 1: this was on the Ravens. I don't put any of
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Speaker 1: this on the Raiders unless it comes out they withheld
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Speaker 1: medical information that that has not been reported anywhere from
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Speaker 1: all reports, they gave everything. The Ravens knew exactly what
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Speaker 1: they were getting, so they I don't know what the
18:58
Speaker 1: Raiders could have done. They were shopping this guy to everybody.
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Speaker 1: They took the best offer he obviously had basically since
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Speaker 1: the combine to feel comfortable about what he was going
19:09
Speaker 1: to offer and pulled out. I I to me, the
19:14
Speaker 1: blame Pie is one hundred percent why this deal fell
19:18
Speaker 1: through because of the Raven's decision. The Raiders had nothing
19:22
Speaker 1: to do with it. And one thing I learned, and
19:24
Speaker 1: I don't think I talk about enough. I never talk
19:27
Speaker 1: about it, actually, and I never hear anyone else talking
19:30
Speaker 1: about it. And someone in the league who is in
19:34
Speaker 1: charge of signing guys brought this up to me. He said,
19:37
Speaker 1: there are two different things. There's the salary cap, whatever
19:42
Speaker 1: that number is being compliant with the league. Right, it's
19:44
Speaker 1: a hard cap. You gotta be under the number. If
19:47
Speaker 1: it's a two hundred million dollar or a three hundred
19:49
Speaker 1: million dollar cap, you can't be ten million dollars more
19:51
Speaker 1: than that number. And then there's a cash flow issue.
19:56
Speaker 1: So you could have a salary cap of two hundred
19:58
Speaker 1: and fifty million dollars and spend way over that amount
20:02
Speaker 1: in a given year with signing bonuses an upfront cash.
20:07
Speaker 1: You know, Jimmy Haslam did it for years. Jeffrey Luriy
20:09
Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers did it for years. They spent
20:12
Speaker 1: more actual cash than the salary cap, right because of
20:17
Speaker 1: signing bonuses and ways to manipulate the cap because you
20:20
Speaker 1: can give people up front and then you can push
20:22
Speaker 1: it back over the life of the deal in the
20:24
Speaker 1: quote unquote void years. I mean, Howie Roseman's been making
20:27
Speaker 1: a killing doing this for the last seven eight years, right,
20:31
Speaker 1: because Jeffrey Lurry is willing to invest, he says. But
20:34
Speaker 1: even if you are those guys, every team has some
20:37
Speaker 1: sort of a cash budget. So when Spytech makes all
20:42
Speaker 1: these moves and signs all these guys, now the Raiders
20:45
Speaker 1: give less quote unquote signing bonuses than other teams, but
20:49
Speaker 1: clearly they're guaranteeing a lot of money. You bring Crosby back,
20:54
Speaker 1: that is thirty million dollars that you were gonna pay
20:56
Speaker 1: Max Crosby again as of right now, I think there's
20:59
Speaker 1: a decent chance that he's still on the team that
21:02
Speaker 1: you had not budgeted for. So that's where people are going.
21:05
Speaker 1: You really fucked the Raiders because they had a budget
21:10
Speaker 1: or they had an idea of not having Crosby on
21:12
Speaker 1: their team. That's why they made all these moves. Now,
21:16
Speaker 1: because of the new influx of cash from Brady's billionaire
21:20
Speaker 1: buddies that bought into the team. Maybe big picture, it
21:23
Speaker 1: won't be an issue and they can just fire with
21:26
Speaker 1: the money if they can convince Max to stay. Because
21:30
Speaker 1: one thing that is very clear at this point that
21:32
Speaker 1: has come out over the course of the last couple days,
21:35
Speaker 1: maybe a week, is that several weeks ago, maybe a
21:38
Speaker 1: couple weeks before the combine, Max Crosby had gone to
21:41
Speaker 1: Max or Mark Davis's house, who's his good buddy, and
21:45
Speaker 1: I want to say, demanded a trade. But they agreed
21:48
Speaker 1: that you should trade me. It's the best for the organization.
21:52
Speaker 1: So Max Crosby essentially wanted a trade. Now I do
21:56
Speaker 1: wonder once you have this situation take place, you want
22:01
Speaker 1: You wanted to be a Raider for life. Then the
22:03
Speaker 1: Mendoza situation happened. You got pissed, you stormed out, and
22:07
Speaker 1: you said, fuck this, maybe it is time to leave that.
22:10
Speaker 1: Then you go to another organization that's supposed to be
22:12
Speaker 1: one of the top organizations in all of American sports,
22:15
Speaker 1: and you spend the day there and by the end
22:17
Speaker 1: the GM calls you into the office and said we're
22:19
Speaker 1: not doing this. Actually we're gonna fly you home and
22:22
Speaker 1: the trades off. I don't care who you are, if
22:24
Speaker 1: you're the most confident human of all time or very
22:28
Speaker 1: insecure and lack confidence, that would rattle you. That would
22:32
Speaker 1: really really rattle you. And I've said this forever. When
22:37
Speaker 1: you are drafted by a team, the coach, the GM,
22:40
Speaker 1: no one will ever be as invested in your success
22:44
Speaker 1: originally as those people are to you. So once they
22:47
Speaker 1: pivot off you, the next people involved will never be
22:52
Speaker 1: as invested. Now, sometimes if you're a great player, you
22:55
Speaker 1: know Harball loves Khalil Mack right, Uh, there are are
23:00
Speaker 1: clearly examples, but my point is that there is never
23:04
Speaker 1: quite like that original love. And there is a connection
23:07
Speaker 1: between the Raiders owner and Max Crosby that clearly would
23:11
Speaker 1: just be different of him going to the Ravens, who
23:13
Speaker 1: if they would have gone through it still would have
23:16
Speaker 1: treated him more like an acquired asset than a guy
23:19
Speaker 1: that they had drafted, that they had nurtured. And you know,
23:23
Speaker 1: like a Kyle Hamilton, like a Hello Di Nada, like
23:25
Speaker 1: a Terrell Suggs. They wouldn't looked at him the same.
23:28
Speaker 1: And I also think this has to put in the
23:32
Speaker 1: back of his mind. Maybe I just played this out,
23:36
Speaker 1: and I think it's hard for the Raiders now to
23:39
Speaker 1: go back to the market given that no one worth
23:43
Speaker 1: their salt is going to offer them anywhere close to
23:47
Speaker 1: what they just got. I would imagine most of the
23:50
Speaker 1: offers coming in based on the previous thing that they
23:53
Speaker 1: thought they had is fifty cents on the dollar. If
23:56
Speaker 1: they had picked fourteen in a first round pick. It
23:58
Speaker 1: wouldn't shock me if some people were off for like
24:00
Speaker 1: two two's. Because also, if you're a GM now that
24:04
Speaker 1: this is out there, then if in a couple of years,
24:07
Speaker 1: Max Crosby's knee falls apart, you will get fired, right,
24:11
Speaker 1: especially if your team's not doing well. People will go, well,
24:14
Speaker 1: you knew this is why the Ravens backed out, So
24:17
Speaker 1: that puts pressure on you to not overpay or even
24:21
Speaker 1: get aggressive from a financial standpoint when it comes to
24:25
Speaker 1: trading for Max Crosby. So, given what you just got
24:29
Speaker 1: in theory for Max, could you now trade him for
24:34
Speaker 1: way less? Like could you trade him for a second
24:36
Speaker 1: and a third just to get rid of the money
24:38
Speaker 1: and just because he wants to get traded, So you're
24:41
Speaker 1: basically just trading him to trade him you're still get
24:43
Speaker 1: some value, but nothing near what you got, Like if
24:47
Speaker 1: you're not getting a first rounder, Like if every team
24:49
Speaker 1: now that's in the mix and interested in Max Crosby
24:52
Speaker 1: is not offering a first rounder, does that make sense?
24:56
Speaker 1: And my my answer would be no. And that's where
24:59
Speaker 1: I think the race brass kind of has to turn
25:01
Speaker 1: back into salesmen and like, can we fix this issue?
25:04
Speaker 1: And I do wonder if after Max went through what
25:07
Speaker 1: he just did, it has to be a little you know,
25:11
Speaker 1: I would say life altering someone telling you, yeah, we
25:16
Speaker 1: think your knee's not gonna work. Right, we think in
25:18
Speaker 1: a couple of years you will not be able to
25:20
Speaker 1: play football. Because that's essentially what they told him, maybe
25:24
Speaker 1: in not so many words, or maybe in more words bullshitting,
25:27
Speaker 1: but like, we think your knee screwed. Because when you're
25:30
Speaker 1: told that, it's one thing in the draft. Right. If
25:34
Speaker 1: rumors get out so and so Caleb down, so and
25:36
Speaker 1: So's shoulder might not work. I remember when Leonard Williams,
25:39
Speaker 1: who's now on the Seahawks, there are rumors he's got
25:42
Speaker 1: this shoulder, he's gonna need surgery and it may never
25:44
Speaker 1: be the same. Well, a decade later, he's still kicking ass.
25:48
Speaker 1: So it's like it doesn't necessarily matter from a draft standpoint. Okay,
25:51
Speaker 1: a couple teams think that, But if the other part,
25:53
Speaker 1: teams in the league don't think that, who cares. But
25:56
Speaker 1: they're also not telling that to your face. When you
25:59
Speaker 1: were in the building thinking you're on the team and
26:02
Speaker 1: then the GM calls you into the office and says,
26:04
Speaker 1: we're not doing this because we think you're not gonna
26:07
Speaker 1: be able to function in a couple of years. That
26:10
Speaker 1: has to throw off and just whatever your mental clarity
26:14
Speaker 1: is and your football confidence and your professional confidence. I'm like,
26:18
Speaker 1: I'm here, I'm gonna help this team win a super Bowl.
26:20
Speaker 1: It's got to throw you off. It would for me,
26:22
Speaker 1: it would for you. It has to do for Max Crosby,
26:25
Speaker 1: and I do wonder if that changes the dynamics of
26:29
Speaker 1: this situation with him and the Raiders, because it was
26:33
Speaker 1: just an all time It was an all time tweet
26:37
Speaker 1: when it came out from the Raiders that they backed out.
26:40
Speaker 1: It was an all timer that all these reporters that
26:42
Speaker 1: are really dialed in didn't really have that many answers,
26:47
Speaker 1: and let's face it still don't. No one can say
26:51
Speaker 1: like in everyone's kind of doing this in pencil. No
26:54
Speaker 1: one can say this specifically what they saw and this
26:56
Speaker 1: is why they backed out, you know why, because I
26:58
Speaker 1: don't think they had a true reason. I think some
27:00
Speaker 1: of the doctors said, eh, we're a little nervous with this.
27:03
Speaker 1: This could go wrong in a couple of years. He
27:05
Speaker 1: was already having some second thoughts. He knew he had
27:07
Speaker 1: the bird in the hand. He'd get trade for the
27:09
Speaker 1: number in which they signed him and said, okay, we're out.
27:12
Speaker 1: And then the Raiders are now in this kind of bizarre,
27:16
Speaker 1: weird situation with their star player who I think and
27:20
Speaker 1: I said this yesterday in my initial reaction, and I
27:23
Speaker 1: think I stand by it sitting here whatever twenty four
27:27
Speaker 1: hours later on Wednesday afternoon, I would probably just keep
27:31
Speaker 1: him at this point. I would keep him at this
27:33
Speaker 1: point over giving him away from fifty cents on the dollar,
27:36
Speaker 1: because we just added a bunch of really good players.
27:38
Speaker 1: We're gonna add a quarterback, We're gonna add potentially multiple
27:42
Speaker 1: guys in the draft because we draft high in every round.
27:45
Speaker 1: Who's to say a listen, Max, this year could be
27:47
Speaker 1: a little bumpy. I mean, we should be better than
27:49
Speaker 1: we've been in the last couple of years, but we
27:52
Speaker 1: could take stride six or seven you know, wins. But
27:55
Speaker 1: in a couple of years, why couldn't we be a
27:57
Speaker 1: playoff team and you could be a huge part of that.
28:00
Speaker 1: And you can kind of get like it was all
28:02
Speaker 1: worth it, and we'll we'll just erase that video that
28:05
Speaker 1: you posted on Twitter and Instagram and we'll just pretend
28:08
Speaker 1: that never happened, and we'll just move on. And money
28:12
Speaker 1: you're usually makes everyone happy, and we're paying you thirty
28:15
Speaker 1: million dollars the next couple of years, and let's just
28:17
Speaker 1: move forward. That would be my guess. Again, I don't
28:21
Speaker 1: have any inside information on this, but given the way
28:25
Speaker 1: I know teams think and the way that they kind
28:28
Speaker 1: of they're like hyenas when there's like a dead animal,
28:32
Speaker 1: they kind of, you know, they kind of come in
28:34
Speaker 1: for an easy meal. That's what it feels like a
28:37
Speaker 1: lot of people when I see that a lot of
28:38
Speaker 1: teams are re engaging with the Raiders for way less
28:41
Speaker 1: than they originally offered. Because and in fairness to those guys,
28:45
Speaker 1: if there's validity to what the Ravens saw to pull
28:48
Speaker 1: the trigger with a lot of draft capital, and have
28:51
Speaker 1: this blow up in your face. I do think it
28:52
Speaker 1: would be a fireable offense. Uh so, yeah, that's We'll
28:56
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Speaker 1: New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee, Virginia. We did have a trade today.
30:58
Speaker 1: The forty nine Ers traded for former third round pick
31:02
Speaker 1: Osa A. Digazua. I think I said that name right.
31:05
Speaker 1: Interior really good pass rusher three technique. The Cowboys last
31:10
Speaker 1: year gave him a four year, eighty million dollar contract.
31:15
Speaker 1: They gave him a twenty million dollars signing bonus, and
31:19
Speaker 1: I think the forty nine Ers, I'm sure like this
31:21
Speaker 1: guy coming out of the draft. Clearly liked him in
31:23
Speaker 1: the pros. You know, he's like a four to five
31:25
Speaker 1: sack a year guy, but he's a good pressure guy.
31:28
Speaker 1: He to me, is a good scheme fit that the
31:31
Speaker 1: forty nine ers have, like a one gap get up
31:33
Speaker 1: the field, not like playing two gaps. Stuff in the run,
31:38
Speaker 1: just penetrate, just get and ideally you got Fred Warner,
31:41
Speaker 1: who knows, maybe they bring Drake Greenlaw back. Our linebacker
31:44
Speaker 1: makes fifteen tackles a game. Our defensive linemen are paid
31:48
Speaker 1: to disrupt the backfield, and Adam Peters attempted to do
31:53
Speaker 1: this last year. And I never have a problem with this.
31:55
Speaker 1: Is when you trade a third or fourth round pick
31:59
Speaker 1: for a player who who's already under contract, who if
32:02
Speaker 1: he was a free agent, would have cost you a
32:04
Speaker 1: lot more than you are gonna pay him with the trade.
32:07
Speaker 1: Now to get that cheap contract, you have to give
32:10
Speaker 1: up a third round pick, which isn't nothing though the
32:13
Speaker 1: forty nine ers they were in the second round and
32:16
Speaker 1: they're drafting twenty seventh in the first round, so that
32:18
Speaker 1: is a late third round pick. I mean, you're talking
32:21
Speaker 1: about something closer to one hundred than you are. Seventy
32:25
Speaker 1: so it's I think you view it goo. We need
32:27
Speaker 1: this player. He's an immediately plug in play asset, and
32:31
Speaker 1: next year he's on the books for sixteen point seven
32:33
Speaker 1: million dollars. That if he was a free agent, he
32:37
Speaker 1: would cost us more than sixteen point seven million dollars
32:40
Speaker 1: if we were going to acquire his services. So I
32:42
Speaker 1: think they got to take advantage. They had a good
32:44
Speaker 1: draft last year. They still got a first to second
32:46
Speaker 1: round pick this year. But I like the trade, and
32:50
Speaker 1: I also understand from Dallas perspective, a lot has changed
32:55
Speaker 1: in the sense of last year. When they extended this guy,
32:58
Speaker 1: they probably thought him and Mike we're going to be
33:00
Speaker 1: on the team. Then all of a sudden, they get
33:02
Speaker 1: rid of Micah, they have Quinn Williams, who's a better player.
33:06
Speaker 1: They trade for Shawn Geary. They have two first round picks.
33:09
Speaker 1: Wouldn't shock me at all if they take a defensive
33:11
Speaker 1: lineman and you start investing so much money into your
33:15
Speaker 1: defensive line, you go, listen, we have an excess. We
33:18
Speaker 1: can utilize this to get a draft pick. We are
33:21
Speaker 1: paying pickings a lot of money. Now we are paying
33:24
Speaker 1: you know, the kicker's not going to be cheap whenever
33:26
Speaker 1: they get that deal set. So I understand the Cowboys
33:30
Speaker 1: making this trade. To me, this is your classic like
33:32
Speaker 1: win win, This trade makes a lot of sense. And
33:35
Speaker 1: I think the Niners were pretty desperate for some defensive
33:38
Speaker 1: line help, people that can play, not one of those
33:40
Speaker 1: like practice squad guys, and they weren't going to go
33:43
Speaker 1: down the road like that. They essentially gave this same
33:46
Speaker 1: deal a couple of years to ago to Javon Hargrave,
33:48
Speaker 1: the game four years, eighty million dollars and guaranteed forty
33:51
Speaker 1: million dollars, and it blew up in their face. Now,
33:54
Speaker 1: Hardgrave's kind of a unique player. He's this undersized interior
33:58
Speaker 1: pass rusher. He actually was not bad against the run
34:00
Speaker 1: last year. He's now in the Packers, who they just
34:03
Speaker 1: gave him twenty three million dollars. He's one of those
34:06
Speaker 1: guys you're gonna look back mid round pick. I think
34:08
Speaker 1: he was like a fourth round pick, third round pick.
34:10
Speaker 1: He made a lot of money, you know, and he
34:12
Speaker 1: parlayed that Eagles success that last year for the Eagles
34:17
Speaker 1: when he had double digit sacks into just financial winfall
34:21
Speaker 1: for the next four or five years. So, you know, Hargrave,
34:24
Speaker 1: I think you're the Packers. They had gotten rid of
34:27
Speaker 1: so many guys right that, they had got rid of
34:30
Speaker 1: Kenny Clark, last year, they got rid of Rashan Gary.
34:32
Speaker 1: This year Micah Parkson's currently injured that they they had
34:37
Speaker 1: to do something. So I have no issue with this deal.
34:41
Speaker 1: They gave up I think, like a late round pick
34:43
Speaker 1: to acquire him. But yeah, the other thing is the
34:48
Speaker 1: Bills trade or not traded. They signed Bradley Chubb, who's
34:53
Speaker 1: coming off a year we had eight and a half sacks.
34:55
Speaker 1: I think the Bills have really struggled to hit on
34:59
Speaker 1: a guy free agency with their defensive line. Years ago,
35:02
Speaker 1: they signed Von Miller to a ton of money after
35:06
Speaker 1: he got traded to the Rams and won the Super
35:07
Speaker 1: Bowl and had had a sack in every round including
35:11
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Clearly they regretted that. Last year they
35:16
Speaker 1: got Joey Bosa, they gave him like one year, twelve
35:18
Speaker 1: million dollars. He just did not live up to that contract.
35:23
Speaker 1: And this year again they are taking premium guys people
35:26
Speaker 1: that were, you know, Joey Bosa third overall pick. Obviously
35:28
Speaker 1: Von Miller is a Hall of Famer. Bradley Chubb, you know,
35:31
Speaker 1: was what the fifth or sixth pick in the draft,
35:33
Speaker 1: fourth pick. I mean, they're going after this blue chip pedigree. Now.
35:38
Speaker 1: They It's not like they got Bradley Chubb like Bosa
35:40
Speaker 1: for one year twelve million dollars. They gave him three years.
35:43
Speaker 1: I think like forty four million dollars. They guaranteed almost
35:45
Speaker 1: thirty so they paid a decent amount of money. Now
35:48
Speaker 1: I think they would say, hey, listen, if he can
35:51
Speaker 1: replicate what he did last year, give us eight and
35:52
Speaker 1: a half nine ten sacks, especially because in theory, we
35:56
Speaker 1: should be leading in some of these games with our offense.
36:00
Speaker 1: This should make more sense. And I've said this forever.
36:04
Speaker 1: The moment they made the Sean McDermott move to go
36:07
Speaker 1: with Joe Brady, you've seen the last two moves they've
36:09
Speaker 1: made to trade for DJ Moore to sign Bradley Chubb.
36:14
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think there's a team in the AFC,
36:20
Speaker 1: you know, the Rams in the NFC for sure. That
36:23
Speaker 1: is just like anything less than making of the Super
36:25
Speaker 1: Bowls a gigantic disappointment. And I think that's just a fact.
36:29
Speaker 1: So props of the Bills, they're being very aggressive. They're
36:34
Speaker 1: trying to make smart aggressive moves. You know, DJ Moore
36:39
Speaker 1: is different than AJ Brown. He costs less, not as
36:42
Speaker 1: good of a player, but you can get for pick sixty.
36:44
Speaker 1: You couldn't get AJ Brown for pick sixty. And you
36:46
Speaker 1: can get a guy a couple of years ago that
36:48
Speaker 1: cott ninety six balls. So can Dj Moore catch eighty
36:51
Speaker 1: or ninety balls for me and make some big plays
36:53
Speaker 1: in the cold down the stretch in the playoffs? You
36:56
Speaker 1: know Bradley Chubb, like, can he come through? We got
36:58
Speaker 1: some other good defensive linemen and be one of those
37:00
Speaker 1: guys that when we have a ten point lead in
37:03
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, can tee off and make some explosive
37:06
Speaker 1: plays that we wanted out of Bosa and simply just
37:09
Speaker 1: didn't quite get. So I think Brandon Bean's doing a
37:12
Speaker 1: pretty good job. Like these are moves. If I was him,
37:15
Speaker 1: I would make. The other thing I haven't hit on
37:18
Speaker 1: yet is the chief signed Kenneth Walker, who I think
37:23
Speaker 1: it's fair to say they like Kenneth Walker a lot
37:26
Speaker 1: coming out of college, and if you watch them at
37:27
Speaker 1: Michigan State, he was I've said this before. I mean
37:31
Speaker 1: he got Mel Tucker ninety million dollars. I mean him
37:35
Speaker 1: single handedly got Mel Tucker ninety million dollars. Michigan State
37:39
Speaker 1: was bad before and they've been bad after. It was
37:41
Speaker 1: kind of Kenneth Walker. He was a fantastic player at
37:44
Speaker 1: Michigan State. His NFL career was a little underwhelming, had
37:48
Speaker 1: been banged up, had never quite lived. I mean he
37:51
Speaker 1: was drafted I think forty first. I mean, you get
37:54
Speaker 1: some of those guys in the early second round, they
37:56
Speaker 1: become star players, especially you know Nick Chubb was drafted there,
38:01
Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel was drafted there, Like you can get impact guys.
38:05
Speaker 1: He really just had a really good second half of
38:07
Speaker 1: the season and an excellent December and January for Seattle.
38:12
Speaker 1: I do wonder if coach Reid and bringing the enemy
38:16
Speaker 1: back one of their philosophical philosophical changes they have been.
38:21
Speaker 1: They're as pass heavy as any team in the league,
38:24
Speaker 1: and they are as dependent on Patrick, which has paid
38:27
Speaker 1: dividends over the years, and rightfully so. He's one of
38:30
Speaker 1: the great players of all time. But once a guy
38:33
Speaker 1: tears his ACL, once you go through a season where
38:36
Speaker 1: he couldn't just pull magic out of his hat every
38:39
Speaker 1: single game and he doesn't play as well, maybe you
38:42
Speaker 1: think to yourself, of like we do need to become
38:45
Speaker 1: a little more run dependent. We do need to hand
38:49
Speaker 1: the ball to guys sometimes twenty five times a game.
38:52
Speaker 1: And I also think you need to add another running
38:54
Speaker 1: back to go along with them. But I do wonder
38:56
Speaker 1: if offensively this year they become a little bit more
39:00
Speaker 1: of a run heavy team. And it'll be interesting what
39:04
Speaker 1: they do in the draft. Could they take the Oregon
39:07
Speaker 1: tight end at nine. I mean, they easily could take
39:10
Speaker 1: an offensive lineman at nine, and then all of a sudden,
39:13
Speaker 1: you got a good guard, You've got a good center,
39:15
Speaker 1: you got a young left tackle who has top five ability,
39:18
Speaker 1: you got a right tackle who's a plug and play guy,
39:20
Speaker 1: and you go, you know what we're gonna do. We're
39:21
Speaker 1: gonna run the ball a lot. That's gonna be one
39:24
Speaker 1: of our philosophies this year. To help our quarterback who's
39:27
Speaker 1: coming back from an ACL injury, do help our you know,
39:30
Speaker 1: our wide receiver grew is not exactly you know Rice
39:33
Speaker 1: and John Taylor, right, it's not exactly Mike Irvin and
39:38
Speaker 1: and Harper, you know. So it's it's a crew where
39:40
Speaker 1: she Rice in trouble again. Kelsey's older that we're gonna
39:44
Speaker 1: play defense. We we have one of the best defensive
39:47
Speaker 1: coordinators in the league. We still got some high priced
39:50
Speaker 1: guys on our defensive line, and we're gonna run the ball. Now,
39:53
Speaker 1: that's easy to say as we're sitting here in March.
39:55
Speaker 1: We'll that actually get executed. But I think when you
39:58
Speaker 1: give a guy that much money, I think you can
40:00
Speaker 1: to rely on him in the run game. And he's
40:03
Speaker 1: probably a little bit better in the passing game than
40:04
Speaker 1: I gave him credit for. But I do wonder if
40:07
Speaker 1: we're gonna see a little bit of a different Chiefs
40:10
Speaker 1: team coming up a couple quarterback things. One thing that's
40:16
Speaker 1: buzzing out there on the interweb is Kirk Cousins potentially
40:21
Speaker 1: going to the Las Vegas Raiders as the backup slash
40:25
Speaker 1: mentor for Fernando Mendoza. Kirk Cousins is owned ten million
40:32
Speaker 1: dollars this year from the Atlanta Falcons. I mean that
40:35
Speaker 1: that contract will go down as one of the all time.
40:39
Speaker 1: I mean, some of these quarterbacks right now. Twoas making
40:42
Speaker 1: fifty five million dollars from the Miami Dolphins. Kyler is
40:45
Speaker 1: making thirty six million dollars from the Arizona Cardinals. Cousins
40:49
Speaker 1: is making ten million dollars from the Atlanta Falcons. These
40:52
Speaker 1: are all time. This is legal highway robbery. So props
40:55
Speaker 1: to those guys forgetting these contracts. Their agents are probably
40:58
Speaker 1: being underpaid for nego shading those deals because that's pretty DUTs.
41:04
Speaker 1: But when you see Fernando Mendoza talk and how goofy is,
41:09
Speaker 1: he does have a lot of similarities to Cousins a
41:12
Speaker 1: decade ago, and I do wonder you get a guy
41:16
Speaker 1: who's kind of been through the ringer, who's been a backup,
41:18
Speaker 1: who's been a starter, who's been a high paid Pro
41:21
Speaker 1: Bowl level guy who's gone through some shit. I do
41:24
Speaker 1: think he could give great advice and be a great
41:28
Speaker 1: guy for Fernando to lean on. And one thing that's
41:31
Speaker 1: key for young players is to have veteran players for
41:36
Speaker 1: them to look up to. It's the big question with
41:38
Speaker 1: Jalen Carter. It's like, are we comfortable with making him
41:41
Speaker 1: the star of the team and paying him forty five
41:42
Speaker 1: million dollars. It was easy to pull the trigger when
41:45
Speaker 1: he was the ninth overall pick, and it's like, what's
41:48
Speaker 1: he gonna do? Get out of line with Brandon Graham,
41:51
Speaker 1: Fletcher Cox and some of these veteran guys in the room,
41:55
Speaker 1: of course not. I remember when I was in the league,
41:57
Speaker 1: the Giants drafted JPP, who was like this raw you know,
42:02
Speaker 1: just just was like a piece of clay needed some more. Well,
42:06
Speaker 1: what did they have? They had oc in the room,
42:09
Speaker 1: they had Kiwanuka in the room, they had a bunch
42:12
Speaker 1: of veteran players in the room. That it's like, that's
42:15
Speaker 1: the type risk to take. And he went on to
42:16
Speaker 1: be a really good play for him because when you
42:19
Speaker 1: have a position group that has veteran players, you can
42:23
Speaker 1: take some risky guys. And to me, it's no different
42:26
Speaker 1: with the quarterback. Even if the quarterback is not a
42:28
Speaker 1: quote unquote risky guy, you want to get him in
42:31
Speaker 1: a room with people they can look up to, with
42:34
Speaker 1: people they can bounce questions off of. It's why Joe
42:37
Speaker 1: Flacco has had this late career renaissance. People want Joe
42:40
Speaker 1: Flacco in the room to be a mentor and be
42:44
Speaker 1: a guy they lean on. Even if these quarterbacks say
42:47
Speaker 1: I'm not here to be a mentor. Listen, I understand
42:50
Speaker 1: what they're saying. They're there to compete. They're there, but
42:52
Speaker 1: once it's establisher the backup quarterback, you're a human being.
42:55
Speaker 1: And if you're a high character guy, you're just going
42:58
Speaker 1: to give the guy a lot of direction, a lot
43:00
Speaker 1: of life lessons, and you're going to be able to
43:04
Speaker 1: show them just through your actions. This is what it
43:07
Speaker 1: takes to be a starting quarterback in the league Monday
43:09
Speaker 1: through Friday. These times, this is what I do. These
43:12
Speaker 1: are the recoveries. And you start these habits at twenty two,
43:17
Speaker 1: twenty three, twenty four years old, where it's not like, well,
43:19
Speaker 1: I figure this out by the time I was twenty
43:21
Speaker 1: eight or twenty nine. I remember when the Chiefs traded
43:24
Speaker 1: Alex Smith and Patrick Mahomes, is gonna be the starter?
43:27
Speaker 1: You know? One of the number one things the Chiefs
43:30
Speaker 1: look for in a backup quarterback. They wanted a veteran
43:33
Speaker 1: who was married, and they signed Chad Henny and he
43:36
Speaker 1: ended up playing there for years. They wanted to grown
43:39
Speaker 1: up in the room, and that's exactly what Kirk Cousins is. So,
43:44
Speaker 1: whether you had an immature wild card at quarterback or
43:47
Speaker 1: someone like Fernando Mendoza that's viewed as a very mature,
43:51
Speaker 1: serious guy, you want a veteran presence around the guy
43:56
Speaker 1: so they can bounce things off of just so they
43:58
Speaker 1: can watch. It's just so it takes a little pressure
44:01
Speaker 1: off them of like what do I do now? And
44:05
Speaker 1: we're human beings. You don't always want to ask your superior,
44:08
Speaker 1: right and in football that's your position coach or your
44:11
Speaker 1: head coach or your coordinator. Sometimes you just want to
44:14
Speaker 1: ask a peer. Think about most people you're closest to
44:18
Speaker 1: when you first get hired in a job in your
44:21
Speaker 1: early to mid twenties out of college. Usually the other
44:24
Speaker 1: guys you're working hand in hand with. You're usually not
44:28
Speaker 1: very close with the boss. You're spending a lot of
44:30
Speaker 1: time with other people who are on your level. Some
44:34
Speaker 1: of my best friends in the NFL were other low
44:37
Speaker 1: level scouts when I was there. Now some of them
44:40
Speaker 1: are like gms and assistant gms, but those were the
44:43
Speaker 1: people I hung out with. I wasn't going over to
44:45
Speaker 1: Howie's house, right, It's no different than Fresno State when
44:49
Speaker 1: I was there, Like and I listen, I can text
44:51
Speaker 1: Pat Hill and Andy Reid. I consider these guys friends mentors,
44:55
Speaker 1: and they impacted my life greatly. But the people I
44:57
Speaker 1: talked to most of the time that I was with
45:01
Speaker 1: those organizations were hell first of some of them were players.
45:04
Speaker 1: We were the same age who have gone on to
45:06
Speaker 1: be coaches now and we just have a lot in
45:08
Speaker 1: common because we were really close then, because we had
45:11
Speaker 1: a lot in common then. So it's no different as
45:14
Speaker 1: a player of like you just have more in common
45:16
Speaker 1: with another player, even if that player is older than you,
45:19
Speaker 1: then you feel comfortable with your coach. So I'm always
45:24
Speaker 1: for signing a mentor and an older veteran guy for
45:28
Speaker 1: a young quarterback, regardless of the quarterbacks wiring. It's clearly
45:33
Speaker 1: more important when you have an immature wild card as
45:37
Speaker 1: a number one overall pick. But even if you have
45:40
Speaker 1: what Fernando Mendoza is bringing to the table checking all
45:43
Speaker 1: the boxes off the field, I think it's extremely impactful
45:48
Speaker 1: to have someone like Cousins in the room. Speaking of
45:51
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, who you know that forever they've gotten Jacoby
45:54
Speaker 1: Brissett's and guys like that in the room with him
45:57
Speaker 1: to try to elevate his maturity of recording this he
46:00
Speaker 1: hasn't signed anywhere. I mean, it's pretty crazy that they
46:04
Speaker 1: paid him all day. I never understood that contract and
46:07
Speaker 1: it backfired in their face immediately, and now they're paying
46:10
Speaker 1: him to who knows But one thing I know is
46:13
Speaker 1: I saw the a's GM put out a statement of like,
46:17
Speaker 1: if he's ever interested, our phone lines are open. Like guys,
46:20
Speaker 1: he's never riding a bus in Albuquerkie, I'll promise you that,
46:24
Speaker 1: but it'll be fascinating to see where he goes. The
46:26
Speaker 1: other guy that at this point in time, I almost
46:30
Speaker 1: respected Cousins took shit forever because it felt like he
46:34
Speaker 1: was always maximizing his dollars and getting paid just top
46:40
Speaker 1: dollar wherever he went, and he ended up making I mean,
46:43
Speaker 1: he's gonna go down as one of the highest paid
46:44
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the history of the NFL. But say one
46:47
Speaker 1: thing about Cousins. Pull up a stat sheet for like
46:50
Speaker 1: a stretch of seven years, it's like twenty eight to
46:53
Speaker 1: thirty five touchdowns every single year and forty three to
46:57
Speaker 1: forty five hundred yards. Like there was no disputing we
47:00
Speaker 1: could argue he was never a top five quarterback, but
47:03
Speaker 1: he clearly hovered for a while between somewhere between like
47:06
Speaker 1: seven and fifteen, and on his good days he'd be
47:09
Speaker 1: like five six or seven, and on his bad days
47:11
Speaker 1: he'd be lower. But he was a legitimate starting quarterback
47:14
Speaker 1: that if you do did a good job building your
47:16
Speaker 1: team was worth a lot of money. Somehow he's had
47:20
Speaker 1: like two stretches in his career at like six or
47:24
Speaker 1: seven games. Daniel Jones just got another large amount of money.
47:29
Speaker 1: He got the Giants to pay him eighty million dollars
47:31
Speaker 1: after he threw twenty touchdowns, and then last year after
47:34
Speaker 1: a good month and a half terrors's achilles and somehow
47:38
Speaker 1: gets multiple years eighty eight million dollars. I it's fascinating.
47:44
Speaker 1: I don't ever remember a quarterback who has done less
47:49
Speaker 1: and been injured more and constantly be able to get
47:53
Speaker 1: a lot of money. And I'm not even hating in
47:55
Speaker 1: a weird way at this point. I respect the shit
47:58
Speaker 1: out of it. And that someone told me at the
48:01
Speaker 1: combine that his dad, his agent himself, when it comes
48:06
Speaker 1: to business, they are ruthless. They don't care, they want
48:10
Speaker 1: every penny possible. And that's clear again. And he had
48:16
Speaker 1: the moment they made that Sauce contract or the Sauce
48:20
Speaker 1: trade and gave up the first rounders and had no
48:23
Speaker 1: other options and missed the playoffs, and there weren't any
48:26
Speaker 1: other quarterbacks. He had them by the balls and now
48:29
Speaker 1: they are in the Daniel Jones business, there's gonna be
48:32
Speaker 1: a ton of pressure on them in twenty twenty six.
48:34
Speaker 1: He's coming off an Achilles injury, which one thing. Teams
48:39
Speaker 1: clearly they like the guy a lot, high character guy,
48:42
Speaker 1: seems like a good teammate. People just like him. But
48:47
Speaker 1: as a player, I know he had a good stretch
48:49
Speaker 1: last year, but you'd be hard pressed to convince me
48:52
Speaker 1: you can be comfortable giving him any sum of money
48:57
Speaker 1: over like fifteen million dollars and he could consistently gets it,
49:01
Speaker 1: and he consistently. The last time he did, he let
49:04
Speaker 1: down a team at the highest of levels and was
49:07
Speaker 1: released two years later. So if you told me right now,
49:10
Speaker 1: I was a betting man, this is the type deal
49:13
Speaker 1: to get everyone in that building fired. And partly because
49:17
Speaker 1: not that he doesn't fit their scheme. We've seen guys
49:20
Speaker 1: come off of Achilles injury now, unlike Cousins or Rogers,
49:24
Speaker 1: he's younger than those guys, but you have to give
49:27
Speaker 1: some like margin for error of it doesn't go that
49:31
Speaker 1: well right away. There's a feeling out process. And I
49:35
Speaker 1: would say any player, any position, no matter how good
49:38
Speaker 1: you are, usually coming back from a major injury, there
49:41
Speaker 1: is like a slow transition process. It's why whenever I
49:44
Speaker 1: see people talking about the forty nine ers and they
49:46
Speaker 1: use like, oh, they got McCaffrey and Kittle. I love
49:49
Speaker 1: George Kittle. He's one of my favorite forty nine ers
49:52
Speaker 1: in my entire life, right up there like Steve Young, Jerry, Rice,
49:56
Speaker 1: Patrick Willis. He is a certified bad ass. Every team
50:01
Speaker 1: in the history of the league would want George Kittle
50:04
Speaker 1: on their squad. He is coming off an achilles Like,
50:07
Speaker 1: that's a major injury, especially for a guy, an older
50:11
Speaker 1: player whose game is built on power and explosion. So, like,
50:16
Speaker 1: I can't just chock George Kittle's gonna have a great
50:18
Speaker 1: season in twenty twenty six. They just resigned his backup, Tanjess,
50:22
Speaker 1: who's actually a pretty good player. But like, I have
50:24
Speaker 1: a hard time just plugging and playing guys off Achilles injury,
50:29
Speaker 1: and this notion that Daniel Jones is just gonna look
50:33
Speaker 1: like he did last year, I can't say that. I
50:36
Speaker 1: don't feel comfortable saying that at all. We'll get out
50:52
Speaker 1: of here on the Dad Diaries. You know, I said
50:56
Speaker 1: this yesterday. When you have someone anyone that with this
51:01
Speaker 1: had little kids or has little kids. Now we have
51:03
Speaker 1: someone in the six seven eight week range. You kind
51:07
Speaker 1: of do the same thing every day, right. You get
51:09
Speaker 1: them up, you try to get them back down, you
51:11
Speaker 1: try to feed them, try to get them to sleep,
51:12
Speaker 1: which can be a challenge. I mean there are some
51:14
Speaker 1: days he just stares at you, like, motherfucker, I am
51:17
Speaker 1: not napping a day. Don't even think about it. I
51:20
Speaker 1: don't plan on going to sleep, and I'm talking during
51:22
Speaker 1: the day and as times when I probably should be
51:26
Speaker 1: at sleep. I'm gonna get extra groucy. And you can
51:28
Speaker 1: read all the books you want, you can watch all
51:30
Speaker 1: the youtubes to listen to podcasts about how to do
51:33
Speaker 1: this and how to get on a schedule. I'm gonna
51:36
Speaker 1: buck that trend every time you attempt to do it.
51:38
Speaker 1: So you just kind of go day to day and
51:41
Speaker 1: just attack it my newfound respect. I've said this before
51:46
Speaker 1: and I will say it again. I think it's easy,
51:48
Speaker 1: especially for guys, to make fun of stay at home moms.
51:52
Speaker 1: Stay at home mom phase when they are in the
51:55
Speaker 1: infant baby phase is as challenging as anything I've ever seen.
52:00
Speaker 1: I mean, I can last a couple hours and then
52:02
Speaker 1: I crack. I mean, she does it all day, every day,
52:05
Speaker 1: and so many women do it. You know, in those
52:08
Speaker 1: first couple months, it is tough. I mean those days
52:11
Speaker 1: where they just won't stop crying. It can mentally break you.
52:15
Speaker 1: It really really tests the census. And one thing you know,
52:20
Speaker 1: I've always heard about, but until you experience it, I
52:23
Speaker 1: always thought, like, change the diapers. That's gonna be disgusting.
52:26
Speaker 1: You become number to with that, Like by day two,
52:28
Speaker 1: changing the diaper becomes like a pit stop in Nascar.
52:31
Speaker 1: It's like Jude dude in and out. But the one
52:34
Speaker 1: thing you're not quite prepared for that you hear a
52:37
Speaker 1: lot about are the blowouts and maybe early on the
52:40
Speaker 1: first month or two that he just doesn't have as
52:42
Speaker 1: much power in there. And then you get to the
52:45
Speaker 1: point last week, I don't know where I was, but
52:47
Speaker 1: my maybe I was at the combine or I don't
52:50
Speaker 1: know where I was, but Maria texts me if like
52:53
Speaker 1: we got a problem. Anytime you hear that, you're like
52:55
Speaker 1: card kind of drops. And then she sends me a
52:57
Speaker 1: picture and there's just shit all over a leg, all
53:01
Speaker 1: over Jack's leg, all over the carpet, and he had
53:04
Speaker 1: his first true blowout. So I'm like, damn, I got you.
53:07
Speaker 1: Gotta keep an eye for this because a lot of
53:09
Speaker 1: times you're feeding them, put them on your knee, put
53:11
Speaker 1: them on your arm, and you just you know, part
53:14
Speaker 1: of babies is they are just farting and pooping constantly.
53:18
Speaker 1: And it's honestly, it's pretty funny. He like smile after it.
53:21
Speaker 1: You just change the diaper. Pitstop boom, you're back rocking
53:23
Speaker 1: and rolling. Well, it starts. You gotta be pretty careful.
53:26
Speaker 1: I don't care how well that you put on the diaper.
53:29
Speaker 1: It can if it's big enough, it can find its
53:30
Speaker 1: way out. So the other day I hear it like
53:34
Speaker 1: I normally do when I'm feeding them, and I don't
53:36
Speaker 1: really think anything of it, and then I kind of
53:39
Speaker 1: peek down and I see the tsunami coming out the
53:42
Speaker 1: side of the lake. And I'm on the couch, and
53:46
Speaker 1: we got a couple changing stations in our room and
53:49
Speaker 1: in his room that he's hasn't won't sleep in, I
53:52
Speaker 1: guess until he's older. So I think I got a
53:54
Speaker 1: couple options here. I could just let it all flow
53:57
Speaker 1: out on me and just deal with the uh, you know,
54:00
Speaker 1: the repercussions of that after he's done, or I can
54:04
Speaker 1: be lying it right now for a room, So I
54:07
Speaker 1: tip him on his side to stop the flow to
54:10
Speaker 1: go back into the diaper, and I run into the room,
54:15
Speaker 1: and right as I'm getting into the room, I can
54:17
Speaker 1: see it coming out the other side. And I put
54:20
Speaker 1: him on the table and I avoid what my wife experienced.
54:25
Speaker 1: There was nothing on me, There was nothing on the couch,
54:28
Speaker 1: there was nothing on the rug. And it's it's truly
54:31
Speaker 1: one of my great father achievements so far in my
54:35
Speaker 1: short career of avoiding getting shit all over me, because
54:39
Speaker 1: it looked when I look down and you know, the
54:42
Speaker 1: sounds are still coming out, it looked destined to just
54:46
Speaker 1: fill my leg. But I, in a split second, like
54:49
Speaker 1: Navy seal style, flip him on his side, and then
54:52
Speaker 1: I just ran like Tyreek Hill, you know, around the
54:55
Speaker 1: coffee table, around the wall, and boom, we're down, we're
54:59
Speaker 1: changing him, and we're out. So I'm yet to get
55:02
Speaker 1: a blow out. I did hear a story from a friend. Well,
55:05
Speaker 1: Maria told me the story that her friend told her
55:08
Speaker 1: that a big blowout in the car that was all
55:11
Speaker 1: over the car seat, down the side of the car.
55:15
Speaker 1: So that's something fun that I have a I have
55:17
Speaker 1: to look forward to but for those of you without children,
55:21
Speaker 1: just get ready, those those those early days, runny poop everywhere,
55:28
Speaker 1: and I mean everywhere, funny at the same time, very disgusting. Audios.
55:38
Speaker 1: The volume