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Draft recap part 2 w/ Schedule Release · The Fantasy Football War Council

• Jonathan: you intro always strong Here we go. ⁓ Daniel: Nice, he's got the shirt on. Champio: Hahaha Jonathan: The Fantasy Football War Council's podcast. Here are your gods of war, Jonathan Arneson, along with Mario and Daniel Gutierrez. Welcome in. Welcome to another meeting of the Fantasy Football War Council. I am your god of war, Jonathan, and we have the full crew. The Brothers Grimm. Brothers in Destruction. My goodness. Champ champ. Champ champ. Well, not ex-champ. You're not champ anymore, new season, new crown champ. We don't have to call you champ-champ anymore. Daniel: That's right. Champio: Until the draft happens. Jonathan: He's back. He's happened. We happened. It's Vince's he won. He won He's new champ Time we hate him. We already hate him. He hasn't been here that long. We hate you so it doesn't take long Daniel: Yep. Thank You can still be champion, but it should probably have a year next to it now. Champio: Yes, that's right. Jonathan: champion. Daniel: 2025. Or 24. was 24. 25 of events. Jonathan: And well, was it 2025? 2025? It was like 2020, 2025 and what? 2015 or... can't remember your first year. I can't remember your first year. 2017. So, okay, I was gonna say damn, 10 years, almost 10 years apart. Oof. That's okay. You got two? You got two? There's more than some people in this league listening right now. Champio: Yeah, 2017 and 2024. Yeah. Jonathan: can say for themselves. So it's nice to be in the positive side, the the upper echelon of, ⁓ you know, us better than you, us winners, I'll say. ⁓ But I could say that from my peak of the mountain above you all. So come at me, come at me. So yeah, I can say that. one's crossed me yet, which is cool. So hey, on today we are finishing up. We have Mario back. It's so nice to have Mario back. Daniel: Yeah. Champio: Mm-hmm. Jonathan: We are finishing the rest of the draft grades. We have Minnesota and down. Well, Miami and down. So apparently Mario, he wanted to talk back about Miami. think he something to say about Miami. So Miami's back on the board. ⁓ But we got Miami and down and then we've got the schedule release and all the glory that came from all those videos. If everybody watched those videos, there were some good ones, there were some bad ones, but we'll get into all that. So. Champio: That's some good points in there. Jonathan: It was, it was some good ones though. Let's jump in with the news. Take us away. Daniel: Alright Some come on man news Rashid Rice has violated his probation and Failed a marijuana test. He will serve 30 days in jail for that violation and while he's in jail He also had a cleanup procedure on his knee that will sideline him for two months. So I'm not sure how that rehab and jail for the first 30 days is gonna go but Champio: Yeah. Daniel: Interesting. Maybe it's a one month recovery and the first month is just... Jonathan: Yeah Champio: I'm sure all those Raiders fans in jail are gonna be super gentle with his rehab. Daniel: Yeah. Jonathan: Ouch good point good point. Yeah, good point Hey the next four years of Super Bowls we have locations now some of them that have been announced we have next year 2027 is in Los Angeles. We have 2028 in Atlanta 2029 was in Las Vegas and it was just announced 2030 is in Nashville and they did drop Daniel: Come on, Jonathan: The 2028 draft got announced. It will be in ⁓ Minnesota. Daniel: you ⁓ interesting. Where is it supposed to be next year? Champio: Yeah. Jonathan: Washington DC Daniel: Interesting. Jonathan: Yeah, 2027 will go to DC, so don't get shivved while you're in the gap. Champio: That's right. Daniel: Yeah. Champio: Yeah, their new stadium definitely won't be ready by then. Jonathan: No, it will definitely not be ready and they might do like two or three costume changes of their ⁓ outfit changes and helmet changes and they're gonna tinker before I think that stadium comes out Champio: Hello? Yeah, did you hear about the bears? ⁓ Daniel: ⁓ Mario's got a good one. Jonathan: Yeah, I don't like the new W. Well, I mean, I know. What's the... Go ahead. Champio: Yeah. Do hear about the Bears Stadium? The new site that was proposed and supposedly approved is full of toxic waste. So now they have to do a whole soil. Yep. Jonathan: Yeah, go ahead. Go ahead. ⁓ well they had two sipes. They go back to the other side. ⁓ they're gonna try and stay there? They're gonna try and stay there? Mmm, I know they had two sipes. Champio: They, it's throwing a wrench. You got people fighting from all sides. It's as though they never decide anything. Jonathan: Mmm. Daniel: Oops. Jonathan: Yeah, I mean, well, it's Chicago, so, you know. Champio: Yeah Uhhh, and then you've got next line of news is Jacoby Brissette not at OTA's holding out to be paid as a starting QB. Jonathan: play me or play your draft Nick Carson Beck. I mean, I would just play Carson Beck if I was him and not pay him. Champio: Yeah, the news about Carson Beck in the OTAs is not looking good. He's, Jonathan: Yeah, I get it. They're going to get a good draft pick out of it next year when they draft well, right? Like they can be number one. They can be number one. Champio: Heck yeah! No, I completely agree. I say if this is your plan to tank for next year, then why spend the money? Jonathan: Yeah. Champio: I mean, I know it's a super cheap franchise anyway, so it's not against what they normally do. And you did draft a quarterback who was highly touted. ⁓ He seems to be still in recovery right now, so he's got no strength in his arm. And that's what the OTAs are saying is that he's not hitting anything past a certain mark on the field. that's, you know, he's got to work through. We still got time before the season. And but if he Jonathan: He's not ready. He's not ready. Yeah. Champio: sucks, you're gonna get first pick. So there's that. Jonathan: Exactly. So I think it's a win-win either way. So because if you play them and he does well, you got a good quarterback and you know, you can use your pick for something else like an amazing wide receiver to go across from Marvin. You know what I mean? Like I'm just saying. Daniel: Yep. Champio: Yeah. ⁓ man. Daniel: There's also... Jonathan: I'm just saying. I don't know. Daniel: I don't necessarily completely disagree with this, but I do have a devil's advocate take. You still need good enough quarterback play to evaluate your team. Jonathan: Of course. Yeah, I guess I... Daniel: Without Kobe Berset and Carlson Beck being in there, you're not going to be having competent enough quarterback play to evaluate your team and find out what your needs really are with the high draft picks that you're going to get. Jonathan: That's stating that Jacoby Burset is competent enough to play quarterback all season long, not get hurt, and be the guy that you expect him to be. Daniel: you It's just good enough to tell that you have other good pieces and not bad enough to feel like everything's a dumpster fire. Jonathan: I think in my opinion, he's like a 22 to 32 quarterback. And at that range, you might as well see what Carson is and say, get our draft pick. See, I don't think he's anything special. I don't think he's anything worth throwing money at, especially in today's inflated contract age. I don't think it's worth it. I wouldn't throw the money at him. Daniel: ⁓ Yeah. I don't disagree. Champio: Yeah. Yeah. Now, my only thing is they might want to think outside the box, but at least try Carson first. And then if they have to, at that point, go the veteran route. Daniel: No, I don't think it's worth it. think that them just cutting him would probably be the best bet. But I will say. Starting starting somebody that you can't even realize, you know, can't even tell. Who's running the right routes or how that ball went or how the offensive line is running protections, you know, that's concerning, but. Hey, you're right. first overall pick next year would be something nice for those teams. Jonathan: this out. I tried to get I see him as a possibility, you know, he's not worth the money. yeah, let him pull his tantrum and fine him and say come, I mean, like, I don't know what his contract status is. Is he still under contract? Because he's not a free agent. So he's contracted through the year, I think. I'd say do your thing, come play or Daniel: Yeah. it you Jonathan: don't. It's yeah. Yeah, I mean Daniel: Or I'm going to cut you. You know, they could just cut them before there's any guaranteed money coming in through. You know what? You're not going to talk. You're not going to be here June 1st or whenever your roster bonus kicks in. We'll just cut you then. We'll roll with rookies and whoever else came off the street. We're going to put a fan in that's had three beers that think he can throw better. Let's bring them down. Like, let's do this. Champio: Yep. Jonathan: Mm-hmm. Champio: Yay. Jonathan: Isn't that how Kurt Warner was found? Yeah, I mean. Daniel: Just roll it out like that, you know? Champio: Steve, you got veterans you can look at also. mean, he wants to make eight million more than Aaron Rodgers is coming in to make. And you can pull a veteran in off the couch and do something to call some players to evaluate the team. Jonathan: Mmm. Joe Flacco's available. Absolutely. Daniel: ⁓ Russell Wilson's out there too. Jonathan: Don't even start with that shit. Hold on, I got something. Nah, I'd rather see Beck too. Go get JoBoo from New York. Go get JoBoo. There's a good one. Jamus. Go get Jamus. Champio: Yes, is. Daniel: I'd rather see back. Champio: Hey, you know what? It wouldn't. Yeah. Daniel: ⁓ god, he'd be fun in that offense with those tools. Jonathan: Come on, James will be, imagine James throwing to Marvin, all the huck it and chuck it downfield to Marvin, fuck. He'd have 35 touchdowns and 32 interceptions. Champio: you would put fans in the seats. Daniel: you Champio: Yep. Daniel: No more number one overall pick. That's the difficulty there. That's the tough pill to swallow. Champio: Hahaha Jonathan: You're putting a high mark on it. You think they won all those games with 35 touchdowns. They didn't win all those games. just... Daniel: No, but if they win six games, it's still going to be bad for them. They got to be three or below this next year. Miami's coming hard too, so... Jonathan: Aww, fuck. I-I-I... James knows what to do. He'll probably like pull in four, four went in and... Yeah. Champio: Hahaha Daniel: It's got to be less like, know, Jamo be out, it'll be a great four, five, six weeks. You win three games, then you got to wait in the locker room for them and put them on IR because that's as much as you're going to get. That's as much as you should get if you're going for the number one overall pay. Jonathan: Okay. This is true, this is true, yes, yeah. All right, I'll move us along. I'm covered. Daniel: Who... Yep, who will make this year's Madden cover? Jonathan: Well, so let's see. Last year was Saquon Barkley, year before that was Krishn McAfee, and will it be the 3P of the running back? Champio: Mmm. Jonathan: So with that said, Kenneth Walker, Super Bowl MVP. Daniel: That was my first thought and my second thought is JSN. Champio: Yeah. Jonathan: Yeah. Okay, see JSN was on my top five list. He was actually number five on the list for me. ⁓ Daniel: I think given the season and the breakout and the amount of breakout that he had, he's, if it's not Stafford for being MVP, it's Jayson for being offensive player of the year and doing what he did. Jonathan: Stafford. Ed Stafford at number two. Ed Stafford at number two. Bijan at number one. Bijan just played so damn good last year. I know, I know. Madden likes their running backs. They've been running back the last two years. think, you know, just saying. What award did CMC hold last year? Did he get MVP or anything? No, I don't think Daniel: Yeah, nobody's talking. Champio: Hey, think... Daniel: Yeah Champio: Hey, ⁓ what if they did a reverse Maddenverse and put Scataboo in? Daniel: finish the season. Jonathan: I mean, think you're just see all right. Daniel: or the dual cover. Just ⁓ ambulance colors in the background and it's just Scataboo and what's his name? The quarterback. my gosh. Jackson Dart, Scataboo and Dart and like an ambulance and lights in the background. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let's go get this. Big blue. Champio: Yes. Jonathan: I can go. Champio: Dart. Jonathan: it ⁓ on like ⁓ crutches yeah like on crutches or something on the field that's funny ⁓ no i actually i had a double Champio: Yeah. Blue tent edition. Big blue. Big blue. The blue tent edition. Jonathan: Big Blue, yeah, the Big Blue edition. That's actually funny. I had ⁓ a couple's for the counter. It was JSN and Kenneth Walker. Champio: No! Jonathan: You know, people go, you know, not huge, don't know which way to go on one of them. They can go both of them, something like that. I don't know. And then it's an all Seattle cover. Daniel: Yeah, I think Mike McDonald should be on the cover of Madden. Jonathan: I Either way, I think somebody's getting screwed this year, but a cover always comes at you. Champio: Dude. Daniel: It should be a coach. McDonald. Nobody has impacted the game more than Mike McDonald over the last two years. Nobody. Nobody has. Jonathan: oooo Champio: You're not wrong. Jonathan: No coach on the cover you can come on Daniel: Nobody has affected the game more. And people are learning more about the strategies and what it takes. so Coach will be on the cover one day, I'm at. The more intelligent the fans get, it changes a different perspective from players to strategy as well. Jonathan: I'm, he's ⁓ he's saying maybe one day. Maybe one day. Maybe one day. Not this day, maybe one day. Yeah, Still hadn't covered it. Daniel: Not this day, but maybe one day. Champio: You know what? I've got an idea. Kay Adams had on her show, Up and Atom, where she was ⁓ glossing over Caleb Williams and his new signature throw. She said she watched all his throws and almost all the real football nuts out there, the film watchers. He's got... an off-platform signature move and it just ends up coming off as such a pretty deep ball. And she's like, you know, anyone else who's ever thrown the ball like that? And that would be something to kind of capture ⁓ kind of the birth of what could be a Hall of Famer. It could encapsulate hope and his talent and what's coming of the new Chicago Bears. Jonathan: That is a thought, that's interesting. I don't want to see them cursed by the Madden cover, but that is an interesting thought. Champio: Well, they're gonna get moved to toxic waste, so come on. Jonathan: ⁓ Dang. Daniel: Can't have them winning, gotta melt their legs. Jonathan: Yeah, I see what you did. ⁓ Champio: Okay, so. Daniel: Alright, Skittyscat. Champio: Mm-hmm. Speaking of Scataboo, ⁓ a new update in his health is saying that he should miss any time this new season. He should be ready by week one. Jonathan: What's it? Daniel: Go ahead. Jonathan: Okay. Derek Henry went down badly in O.G.A.'s but avoided any serious injury. Daniel: Scary moment. Champio: Yeah, they said the Baltimore Ravens took a knee at practice. They were all worried about him. Jonathan: Damn. Daniel: and he said the grass was comfortable. Jonathan: Yeah, I don't know. It's nice cool place to lay if you get hit hard. ⁓ Daniel: That's right. All right. Continue trade rumors. AJ Brown trade gets interesting. So there's been news that AJ Brown is like looking at properties in Boston and around other players that play for the Patriots. But now they're talking about possible trade for him to go to the Jacksonville Jaguars. Champio: Yeah. Daniel: Jaguars trading Brian Thomas Jr. and draft capital for AJ Brown to the Eagles and then the Eagles would roll out Mackay Lemon, Devontae Smith and Brian Thomas Jr. as their three wide receivers and get rid of AJ Jonathan: . Holy crap. Champio: Yes. Jonathan: only. Champio: Yep, that's the big news. Daniel: nuts if that if that goes down Jonathan: for a dollar. Champio: Yeah. Jonathan: I like that. Daniel: Hertz might not be in Philly for much longer if you roll out those three receivers and there's not a lot of passing yards that happens, but. Jonathan: No. No. I don't see him being there long-term. I already don't see him being there long-term. Champio: Yeah No, there's talk that Howie Roseman ⁓ doesn't really like the weight of second QB contracts and he's looking to get out from under it. Daniel: crazy. Champio: not that he doesn't believe in Hertz, but he believes in building a team with rookie contract QBs or backup pay height QBs. And he thinks Hertz has earned it, but that's not how he wants to build his team. And so there's rumors around Philly that that's kind of what's going on. Yeah. And then ⁓ with the Racine scandal, Jonathan: Mm-hmm. Yeah, you're looking for money to spread around. I mean, you can claim that, but I Daniel: Well, that's it. Champio: New England's ⁓ trying to get out of the limelight and they're looking to back out of the A.J. Brown trade even though they were all in. Now ⁓ they don't want any dirt on the Racini and Vrabel push to make this happen where false things may have been said. So if he goes somewhere else then it doesn't look like they cheated even though they were almost successful at that. Jonathan: It ain't going away. It ain't going away. Yeah, that's fine. Again, again. Rank, rank AJ Brown for me. Rank AJ Brown for me. Daniel: again. you Champio: I Jonathan: Where'd he put him? Daniel: you Champio: 12. Jonathan: Okay, outside it's in, it's Danny. Champio: Yeah. Daniel: Yeah, I mean I would say same range 10 to 14 maybe 9. Jonathan: Okay. Daniel: I think he's done a lot to hurt his career over the last couple of seasons. Not being involved in the offense, think has really hurt him mentally as a player. And he's just checking out sometimes on the field and routes. ⁓ Jonathan: listening to this guy. and 15 to 18. I was having this conversation with Robbie today and I to ask you guys to get your kids' opinion because he's over here telling me top 10 guy and started naming off some names and trying to rank him somewhere amongst those names and I spouted off this list of fucking receivers and I just kept going and I stopped and I'm like, do you want me to continue? Because I can keep going before I put E.J. Brown on this list. Daniel: Yeah. Champio: that. Yeah, so for... Jonathan: And I wasn't wrong. I don't think I'm wrong, so. Daniel: Yeah, the narrative that he's top 10 is a few years old. Yeah. Champio: No, I don't. Yeah, I personally think 12 is his peak because I think he gave a lot to the team. And I think that could be hitting an age cliff. If it was a motivation cliff instead, and now he's going to be super motivated with his new team, I think he could hit that 12 mark easily. But if all the other signs, which are showing that all the abuse had to do his body because really trying to put it out there for his teammates and for his team, then I think you're right, John, that his ceiling is. lower. Still top 20, but yeah. Jonathan: Not very high. Yeah, I don't see him as high. Daniel: Well, it could be... Jonathan: That's a stretch even for me. I don't think I was just being generous where I placed them. I could go lower to be honest. Champio: No, because I think... Daniel: I mean, it could also be classic physical specimen career end, right? I mean, it's just his physical traits that have always made him such a difference maker. those kinds of players, not just receivers, but receivers, even at a more accelerated rate, receivers and running backs, Champio: They just drop. Yeah. Jonathan: It's a wall. ⁓ they're going to the run. ⁓ yeah. Champio: Yeah. Daniel: Sometimes you just hit that cliff and the decline is harsh. And that happens more with the physical specimen guys that rely on their physicality and athleticism more than the technicians to have an end of career as such as AJ Brown has. And so ⁓ it doesn't mean maybe he's been able to change it around. But for me, I'm like, his prime is way back there. His prime was three years ago. Champio: Yeah. Jonathan: Boo. It's like, whoa. Champio: Yeah. Daniel: And that's, that is a, that is a whole dynasty rebuild plan. Right. So at this point, yeah, he's, he's not really worth that much. He could have a resurgence in a career maybe, but you know, but if the owner is, valuing, valuing him as top 10, then who's going to pay that price. Champio: in here. Jonathan: It's a whole coaches career. Champio: Yeah. I... Jonathan: Mm. Mm-mm. Champio: Yeah, I think he's still terrifying to defenses, but you just can't feed him so much that he'll break down. So he could win you games just being on the field. And when you get him the ball, he'll win those one on ones and some two on ones, but his body can only handle so much. He's getting to that. Jonathan: Hmm. Daniel: Anyway. Jonathan: Yeah, you're not forced to beat him if he's having 12 receptions a game. He's gonna get like 3 to 5, maybe 6. And if you're lucky, he's gonna get like 60 to 80 yards. Daniel: Now on the flip side, it could be he's just super unhappy and checked out in Philadelphia because he knows he's not getting the ball. So he's just not there mentally and he has got to change his environment and it completely. That feed his ass the ball. That's what it says. You know, that's, that's, that's what he's, that's what he's there for. If you're trading for him, that's what you're going to take him in for. You're going to feed his ass the ball, you know, that's. Jonathan: Any? But what's that say for your next team though? Yeah, you're not in. Yeah, they see you guys not in. ⁓ I'd break them. I'd break them. I'd fucking give them 12 to 13 asses. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm gonna play you until you're broken and when you're done, I'm gonna drop your ass and I'll move on. Yeah. Champio: Yeah, great. Daniel: You're just gonna... Here you go. Stay engaged. Here you go. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Dude, could you imagine him going to like the commanders or something like that? ⁓ my gosh. You know? Just feed the man. you know, 12 targets a game. Champio: ⁓ To be honest... Jonathan: Kansas City with all this trouble with Raji. They could go after somebody like him. Champio: Yeah. Actually, Kansas City is the other, that's the other name that keeps coming up is Kansas City. And, yeah, A.J. Brown, he wants to be force-fed like that because he thinks he doesn't have a shot at good in the Hall of Fame at all because he was wasted. He wasn't that number one receiver that was fed and got to put the stats up. So, Jonathan: Yeah, why not? They need receivers, they always struggle! Champio: He wants to go to a place where they just run into the ground. Jonathan: Kansas City and pulled two seasons and even like one Super Bowl. He ain't making no fucking Halloween jacket. No, no, ⁓ Champio: No, I don't think he is either. That's the sad thing. Jonathan: I don't see it now, but it'd have to be like a fucking Jerry Rice, fucking 28 touchdowns. I mean, you'd have to blow some uriers off to fucking get a jacket on it. Daniel: ⁓ he'd have to, yeah. Champio: Yeah. Daniel: He would have to have an insane three years to get a jacket. He could, he could. I think, like if he went to the Packers as the receiver and they just fed him like crazy or a team like that where they're just needing a number one receiver, if they get a quarterback in Miami and he goes down to Miami and just shows out for like three years, I think there's a possible argument that could be made, especially if there's Super Bowls that are involved. Jonathan: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. ⁓ If you Daniel: But current trajectory and the way things are, feel like that is highly unlikely. Champio: Yeah. Jonathan: I don't know. I don't know. Okay, um, I think we need jump into our teams. I think we need to jump into our teams. We're... yeah. We're... we're... we're... yeah. so, I am back to Miami. Are we back to Miami, Mario? Did you have something to say about Miami that we did not say on the last podcast? Champio: Yeah, I'm... Okay, next. Daniel: you Let's do this. Champio: Okay. Daniel: To Miami. Champio: minutes No, I just I like that they're going full lighted on fire rebuilds and really throwing as many I think they drafted smart being honest with themselves about where they were and Good on them. That's that's all the time. We need to spend on it Daniel: you Jonathan: Mm-hmm. Very surprised. Daniel: I-I-they-they- Jonathan: A team that should be tanking drafted so well. Daniel: They totally, you know, took the fantasy football dynasty strategy in three years. They should be pretty good. Yeah. Champio: Yeah. Jonathan: Okay, Minnesota Vikings. Minnesota Vikings. Champio: Yeah. Jonathan: Well, they had nine picks. Not bad. ⁓ One first round. Champio: Yeah, I love their first pick, but I wouldn't have taken them that early. Jonathan: I hate to do this. Champio: I was thinking if we took him because of all the elite players, thought we're going to be gone by the time we got to pick. I thought if it went as a way, Caleb Banks or Proctor would have been the two that I would have been focused on because Banks is such a beast, but he's, he's got a hurt foot and it has to do with weight issues. But having him in and out with. Jonathan: Mm-hmm. would have been a good pick for us. Yeah. Champio: as nose tackle with Veya back and forth resting their size and everything is pretty close their strength is similar Veya is a lot stronger but still I thought that would be good or having him on the line with him ⁓ you'd get a lot more energy with both of them interwoven that way or whatever so I think with all that pressure and bane or I'm sorry bane wasn't there yet but with the ⁓ out of Avanzaloni coming into Rush also. I thought we could get a lot of pressure that way and it would be a good way to build. ⁓ I have a lot of faith that Banks is gonna do well and even more so that he went to Flores because Bowles would have been doing great with him too I think. But I think of those two, I think he did really well. Jonathan: Mm-hmm. Champio: Yeah. Jonathan: You see, you had me at Florida Gators. mean like it's banks. I like banks. I would have been okay with it. Champio: Dude, he's such a beast. then Dominique Orange, Orange too, going in on the third round. They double dipped there. They know where they want to put their pressure. And ⁓ then the other thing that I think was really solid of note in Minnesota's draft was Max Bredesen. They drafted a fullback. Jonathan: Yeah? Yeah? Champio: And so they really want to establish that run game. ⁓ They thought that's where they lacked last year, relying too much on Carson Wentz's arm, relying too much on the other QB's arm. They know they don't really have a solid QB option past this year. And so really developing a ground game to alleviate and balance their offense is something they want. And so I thought that was a good sign of direction for the team. Jonathan: He's a great blocker. Yeah, he grades out. It is an amazing blocker here. But to hear you talk shame on JJ McCarthy, that's your golden way to hear you talk to him with shame. I don't know what to say. You had such high-pakes. Daniel: you Champio: I told you I'm calling him nine comp now. Daniel: Day. Jonathan: I saw your nickname. I did see your nickname. I went out to the whole league by the way. We all saw the nicknames. Yeah. We all saw the nicknames. Yeah, Minnesota did well. Daniel: I think Flora has locked everybody out of the draft room for the first couple of days. She just said, me what I want. Yep. All right. Champio: Yeah. Jonathan: I want this and I'm gonna get it, yeah. Champio: What he, he gave him the last two picks though. Daniel: Yeah, a fullback which will help the defense. Jonathan: Hehehehehe Champio: But clayborne might be a diamond in the rough. Yeah. Daniel: Yeah, I was looking at that. Jonathan: Yeah, yeah. All right, New England Patriots. The New England Patriots. Champio: The running back, Clay. Daniel: you Jonathan: Nine picks, another nine picks. Daniel: I think they had a map draft. know, it's just a map. There's... Yeah. Champio: Mm-hmm Jonathan: Yeah, yeah, I think ProFocal Focus is being nice with the C+. I think it's in the DD- range. I expect that this thing to do a little better. Daniel: I they could get some contributors and stuff, but I think Raritan is my favorite pick of their draft, really. Jonathan: That's funny because I think they could have done for a team that needed a tight end. could have done a little better on tight end in this draft. Daniel: there's a possibility, but I really like Raritan. Champio: Oh no, I thought- Jonathan: Yeah, no, he's not a bad guy. just think definitely could have developed a better tight end out of this traffic and I don't know. Yeah, absolutely. mean, 28 definitely Caleb Lomu and I'm like, yeah, you could have done better. I'm not I'm not happy with this. And you even jumped a few spots to get this. So Daniel: I one earlier. That's, mean, cause you look at who else they picked in your life. Champio: Yeah, I give it a C because they did address certain things they really needed. ⁓ But yeah, I mean, I think one of my favorite things that they got was actually... Daniel: you Champio: Jam Miller isn't bad for RB in round seven. And Raritan I thought was really good in round three, but like you said, John, if they really wanted to address replacing Hunter Henry, you had some really great ones you could have reached up for. Raritan is a really solid team tight end, but he's not, he probably won't end up developing. Jonathan: This was a year ago by then. Yeah. It wasn't any like three big ones, but there was a lot of depth I think in tight end of the strings draft that they could have addressed it around or too sooner. that's all. Champio: Yeah. I think his ceiling is Gadsden. And there was better than that available if they really wanted to address that. Jonathan: Absolutely. The New Orleans Saints. Champio: I hate this draft. I hate it. Jonathan: Ha ha Daniel: Me too. Champio: As a Bucks fan, I freaking hate this draft. Jonathan: I mean I had a fan favorite that would go wide receiver right away with their pick so didn't know which one but I had them written down as just wide receiver so expected. Let's see let's look down this draft I don't Champio: Yeah, a lot of analysts had Jordan Tyson as the number one wide receiver in the draft over Tate, ⁓ even over Prime Criss Bell. ⁓ Yeah, so having him in our division, I wasn't as happy that that went there. they got several other players that are just big. Daniel: you you Champio: beastly, hard to cover, really talented. then. ⁓ Jonathan: Some good hits. Yeah, think they did well on their draft. Daniel: Christian Miller, Oscar Dell, Bryce Lance, mean, those are all great picks, Jonathan: I like the Lance and the Brown pick. Yeah. Barren Brown. was with 90 I think is a steal. Champio: Yeah. ⁓ And then around six, yeah, Barry Brown from LSU, it's like, ⁓ what are we going to do in the second to last round? ⁓ I don't know. Put a flyer out on an LSU receiver. You know, it's just, yeah. I was like, okay, some flyers. I'm like, ⁓ okay, let's see what happens. But that was smart. Jonathan: ⁓ yeah, absolutely. a return game. Immediately return game guy. Yeah, ⁓ I believe that... Daniel: Even TJ Hall at 7 was a good pick. He was a guy that they were saying should have gone in the 4th or 5th round. He went 7. Stupid. Champio: Yeah. Oh, 100%. He was a steal in the seventh. So I'm, it shows that they believe in Shug and yeah, I'm pissed that they drafted really well. Daniel: hate it. Jonathan: I get the D+. I get the D+. That's a good draft. That's a good draft. Daniel: It's good draft. ⁓ Champio: Yeah, I... Daniel: A- just cuz I- cuz Adam Champio: Even Lorenzo Stiles in the fifth, A. Jonathan: Yeah, I was gonna say the Lorenzo Stiles pic. I like that pic. I like that pic. Champio: A. Take it. And A. Daniel: A minus because the minus is spiteful. Jonathan: Alright, so... Yeah! ⁓ That's funny. Just fuck you. The New York Giants. Now, seven picks. Two within the first ten. Three within the first thirty-seven. Daniel: you Champio: Yeah. Jonathan: They could have done better. I cannot give them an A even who they grabbed. Yes, I like who they grabbed, but I still believed at five and 10, this team could have done way fucking better than they did. Arvel Reese with your first pick and Francis Moya guy with your second. Come on. I mean, like, look, I like I like Francis. You're wrong. Now we go. I like I like Francis. Don't get me wrong. Big motherfucker. Champio: Now we know that. Jonathan: Strong, powerful, good hands. OK. That's Simon in the draft. I get it. but. You had no, OK, very good point. Very good point on some boards you had. We talked about what we talk about. We talked about they should have gone. Champio: on some ports. Daniel: I was on others Champio: Yeah. Jonathan: not Arvel, they should have gone the other guy and then they should have gone ⁓ Caleb Downs. Well, we talked about that one too. Yeah, Downs is for their pick 10 and ⁓ for it was ⁓ Burns. can't remember who Burns was. ⁓ Sonny Styles got picked right before him, didn't he? So yeah, he was gone at four. That was a not happening to them. Now Sonny Styles would have been a good pick for them. Champio: Bye. Daniel: study styles. Champio: Yes. Daniel: He was, he's gone at four, thought, yeah. Jonathan: But that didn't happen, so. Champio: So Bailey was gone, Stiles was gone. I think Reese was a good pick. I really do. I think he's got a lot of points. Daniel: we see. Stiles was still on the board at five. He went at pick seven. Jonathan: No, failure, failure. That should have been funny styles. Funny styles. I knew they failed somehow because we talked about it. And I remember leaving that pizza place and New York fucked up so hardcore with those top two picks. They could have done so much better. And talking to Rob, he was so pissed on his team's pick. Champio: Okay. That's what I thought. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think. If they went styles and downs, that would have been an identity. Jonathan: Yeah, solid, absolutely. Absolutely solid. I like the Colton Hood, Malachi Fields. I really like Malachi Fields from Notre Dame, wide receiver. ⁓ And then their last pick, Jack Kelly at a BYU linebacker. I like, Champio: And you know... Yes. Yeah. I give him a V+. Daniel: I give them. Jonathan: I think ⁓ PFF has their highest graded pick out is Tackle. Davis, their second to last pick at 192. Champio: Yeah, that's solid. Daniel: I think that ⁓ I can understand why they went Reese over Styles. Reese has been doing it longer, but he's still 20 years old. Right? But the thing is also is last year, the worst positional group that the Giants had was their linebackers. And so they signed for made Edmonds and ⁓ Jonathan: I give them a good grade, they just think they could have way better. Daniel: I forget which other free agent but they replaced the linebacker core almost completely right and so they also have some guys that are still developing on edge and And they should be perfectly fine, but they're still developing on edge. Okay So what they're doing is they're drafting Elva Reese because if those free agent linebackers don't end up panning out Which they might not after this particular year, then they'll move him from wheel linebacker middle linebacker and he'll end up running the defense because he's capable of doing so and that would be the best place for him for fantasy purposes right as an IDP player but if they're able to patch those holes at linebacker then they might be able to move into edge to give that defense edge if there's anybody else that's kind of you know lacking or not developing like they should be developing because he's a raw ball of clay in that position particular position or you use them as a wheel and you do both, right? So for the position of versatility and long-term gain of having a player like him rather than Sonny Styles, who will be your middle linebacker, and he will be probably the best middle linebacker, possibly a Hall of Famer. Champio: it was. Jonathan: future holocaust future holocaust probably best player out of that draft Champio: Yeah. Daniel: Totally. ⁓ But Reese gives them the flexibility to pivot in the future depending on what's going on. I would have taken styles and doubts flat out. Jonathan: He says it's crap too and because of I give him B-. It could have been an A+. That's a fucking B-. Champio: Yes. Daniel: Yeah, I do like the Mario Nova pick, but I would have gone down. Champio: ⁓ I give them VBucks. Jonathan: I- I like Mario- Champio: I gave them a P plus because what they picked wasn't bad. They could have done better. They got themselves up into the position of the draft to get all these quality players out of this year's draft, which, you know, there was a little... a lot to say about this year's draft and the quality. And I think for what they did in positioning themselves, who they picked up and everything like that, I still give them a B plus. I will not give them an A because they didn't do the obvious thing. They still picked up great starters, but they didn't do what they should have done. Jonathan: That letter, yeah. Daniel: They possibly solidified two areas of great need with fantastic players out of this draft. They could have built an entire defensive dynasty if they went styles and downs. It's all perception on what you decide. Champio: Yep. Jonathan: Absolutely. That'd be so damaging. So damaging. Big Blue. Yeah, Big Blue. Yeah, Big Blue. Big Blue. Champio: And... Not only that, look at what the Rams did by grabbing two defensive people next to each other who have chemistry. You put styles and downs together who have chemistry in that backfield and everything and right off like yeah, dynasty. Daniel: So, talk. Dude, what about just the identity of your team? On defense, you've got Abdul Carter, you've got, you know, on the line right there. Then you got Sonny Styles. Then you got Downs on the back. Plus you've got Burns on the line as well. And Tibideau. It's like just beasts and mean and bullies and guys that are gonna beat the shit out of you or outsmart you. Champio: earns. Jonathan: They have bees playing. and Daniel: And then on offense, you've got Dart and Scataboo. And then neighbors, the one finesse piece on that entire team. know, everything else are just sledgehammers. ⁓ Yeah, that's, that would be a huge, we're going to kick the crap out of you identity for the New York Giants. And isn't that what Harbaugh's trying to build? I just don't understand that. So yeah, I tried to justify it. Champio: Yeah. Jonathan: you Champio: Yeah. Cause what? Jonathan: Yeah. Champio: Yeah, the, the, the, the, the, Jonathan: Yeah, no. ⁓ Daniel: They could have. And, you know, maybe let's see how it plays out. All right. Now the jets. Jonathan: They're forming a Yeah, the Jets. Daniel: Three firsts. Jonathan: Yeah, with going edge with David Bailey. That was a solid pick. Tight end, Siddiq. First tight end off the board. I that was a good pick. Champio: Yep. Yeah. Jonathan: Hmm. I don't know. I'm not... You like Omar Cooper Jr.? Daniel: Mark Cooper Jr. Champio: In the first round. Daniel: I like the- Champio: I wasn't happy. Jonathan: Yeah, I'm thinking the 30 that's on the fly. Yeah. Yeah. Daniel: I think the first round might have been a reach, that's a contract pick. End of the first, if he ends up being a wide receiver two on the team, he's worth it for five years at that cost. For sure. If he's a wide receiver three on that team, he's worth it for three years at that cost or for five years at that cost. That's the problem with the way the wide receivers are making bank right now is that it's driving teams to Jonathan: Well-rounded player. Daniel: draft guys that used to be second, third round picks in the first round just for the contract reasons. Because when wide receiver twos are making $30 million, you know, you got an upside guy that has a possibility of doing more than being the wide receiver three or two on a team. And you're going to end up paying him like what, $15 million at the peak of his contract over the next five years. Jonathan: hey it leaves other good picks on the table when you make stuff like that so I'm good with it. Good with it. Daniel: Yep. Champio: Yeah, think Sadiq ⁓ was a luxury pick for a team that doesn't need that luxury right now. ⁓ They have Mason Taylor, who's actually a very darn good tight end. If they had went higher on a wide receiver here to help with the other wide receiver they already have in Garrett Wilson, ⁓ I would have been good with that. Bailey was an interesting choice. There's a lot of reasons for that. Good on them if they had him higher than ⁓ Reese. Fine. That's fine. He's more prototypical for an edge. ⁓ but I think they should have gone if they're going to get a pass catcher, you get one of the more elite Jonathan: Mm. Champio: looking wide receivers right there. And ⁓ I would have skipped on someone like Omar Cooper or I would have waited and picked Antonio Williams. ⁓ Jonathan: Question at 16. I think all three were gone. I think it's 16 all three were gone already the top three Yeah, you're talking outside the top three then though I Think I think out of the top three once you go to the top three then it would have been sadique before conception just skill talent Daniel: conception still ⁓ for sure. I've said top three. So when, yeah, Tate at four. Champio: And I did put conception. Daniel: Go ahead. Champio: Yeah, and I ranked Concepcion higher than Sadiq and Cooper because Sadiq doesn't have the stats in college to show that he can actually handle the volume. ⁓ Concepcion, he's a chain mover. And so I would have trusted that more. Jonathan: Mmm. Daniel: in Lemon was still on the board at 16. Lemon didn't go until pick 20. Jonathan: What was it? Champio: We'll see. Lemon, definitely would have. Jonathan: See some teams didn't like lemon though. There were, I would have drafted lemon, I like lemon, but there was a handful of teams that were out on lemon though. Champio: Lemon, 100 % lemon. Yeah, 100 % lemon. Jonathan: Yeah, I agree. I'm going to over some data. Daniel: Lemon or Sadiq? mean, Lemon went four picks later at 20. Sadiq, he was still on the board at 16. Champio: Yeah, that's what I thought I saw was that Lemons who I would have picked for their second pick. And then I would have liked this. I give them a C, flat out C. ⁓ Jonathan: Yeah, I would have thought it was a King Leng and... I'm so- Daniel: Thank Jonathan: Yeah, it's no wowing picks, right? They're graded out as your best pick is your first pick. You're downhill from there. So. Champio: day out. I think one of their best picks was actually Kate Kluepnick. in the fourth round. And ⁓ the entire team fell off, which looks like coaching. And he looked like he was going to be the number two overall pick. ⁓ Jonathan: quarterback out of Clemson. Daniel: Take a shot. Champio: before the season started, Clemson fell off. But he's got all the talent, he's got all the tools, he did it before for a season, and he still showed some good things through this past season. I think that he could be developed and do really well. ⁓ So I think he was a solid pick as well as D'Angelo Pons, but I think a lot of people had him at the end of the second round. But that's fine. You got him at the beginning because that's when your pick was. I'm not mad about that. So those two picks are my happiest with what they did. And the rest of it, I mean, they filled holes with guys that met some of those needs, but not nearly as well as New York did as the Giants. And so I got to give him a C. Jonathan: and Giants won the New York draft battle. Giants still could have done so much better. Yeah. Champio: Yeah. Daniel: I agree with all the things you just said. Jonathan: Yeah, I can get on board with that. All right, Philadelphia Eagles moving the chains here. Trying keep us moving. Eight picks. Speaking of, Micae Lemon, here's the Matt Micae Lemon deck, yeah. And another tight end, here wins the... Yeah. Daniel: I love it. At 20. Champio: Yeah. Yeah, and Stowers actually has the production. Daniel: Mark Bell, Peyton Cole, Peyton, yes he does. Jonathan: Okay, hold on. I got, got. You said Markel Bell, huh? Biggest boy in the draft. Six foot nine, 346 pounds. This dude was a fucking monster. Daniel: Go, Belle. Champio: That's right. That wingspan, man. Daniel: Good pickup. Jonathan: Look at it at 87 and yeah, he's got massive wingspan arms 36 Champio: Whew. He's gonna swing those arms and power Philly. Jonathan: Yeah. He's just going to grab people off the light pole when they get stuck up there. Here, let me help you down. like it. ⁓ Daniel: Yeah. Champio: Yeah. And then getting Cole Payton in the fifth round, QB, I thought, yeah, I thought he was the fourth best QB in the draft and ⁓ sitting in Philly, they tend to pump out QBs pretty well. I was pretty bummed he went there, but. Jonathan: I like the cool paint, that's a thing. Mm. Mm-hmm Well, I mean I kind of expected them to go quarterback because I don't see Hertz being there long term so they're gonna do something And they just kind of rounded out their line ⁓ the UR Bernard, yeah, he's a good, yeah, 351 Daniel: I like the word Bernard. Champio: Yeah. Daniel: That's a fun one. I'd love to that. Champio: Yeah, you are Bernard. was pretty bummed that Tampa didn't grab him. I wanted. I love physical freaks. There were three physical freaks in our dynasty draft I didn't get. He was one of them. Daniel: Three years from now he could be a monster. Jonathan: There's always the names you remember. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get it. I got a couple of those in my head. I get my solid bait. I like the draft. Big boys getting, filling the line. Coreback, line, tight end, wide receiver. They're filling in spots. I like it. And you know, they're pretty stacked on defense, so didn't need as much help. Daniel: I agree. Champio: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Jonathan: The Pittsburgh Steelers who just brought back Aaron Rodgers to a one year deal. Didn't put it in the notes because I didn't feel it was worthy of anything mentioning. It's Pittsburgh Steelers. Champio: Yeah. And he finally brought his wife around. Did you see that? Jonathan: No, didn't notice that. Interesting. Interesting. ⁓ Champio: She exists. She exists. Daniel: and it explains a lot. Jonathan: What's her name? Is this like the- Daniel: They are, they are, they are, they are a match. Yeah. I was like, yes. Champio: She's an influencer hippie type. She, she looks. Jonathan: Okay, that's I thought there was a hippie with the weird name like up the wind or some shit I remember he was into some chick that had a weird name. Daniel: Brittany something star made or something like that. Yeah Jonathan: Okay. Champio: Yeah. Jonathan: There was some chick that had a weird fucking name. Yeah, okay. Champio: Yeah. So I... Daniel: So outside of Maxi and Atro offensive tackle. See how that plays out. Champio: Yeah, great. Jonathan: They have have the back. Hydra they had they had the full back of the draft. I did like that draft pick. That was my favorite draft pick of theirs. I will give that to them. Yep. Daniel: Eli Heidenreich, yep. That's just for that pick alone. I give them a C. Jonathan: Yep, yep, yep, yep, he alone. was the last big of the draft for them. Champio: Dude, him, him, Scataboo, and CMC with their catching profiles. yeah. He was, was Navy's entire offense. ⁓ yeah, he's, as, as their last pick, phenomenal. And I also love- Jonathan: ⁓ man. Daniel: you Jonathan: Yeah, ⁓ yeah. Daniel: Wide open backfill, you got general arn and- Jonathan: And he had just over 2,000 collegiate snaps. That's just, I mean, ⁓ I'm sorry, that's, again, I'm sorry, another next guy. Champio: ⁓ Yeah, I love round five, Riley Nowakowski as well. He's a tight end, but he plays a lot like a fullback. Jonathan: mixed up names there. ⁓ 169. Who's a Hoosier? Hoosier Hoosier. Champio: Mm-hmm. Jonathan: I wasn't wowed by Pittsburgh. I wasn't wowed by Pittsburgh, but I did really like the Heidenrich Pike. That was one of my favorite places. Daniel: Nice. Champio: Yeah, he's phenomenal. Daniel: I like the Heidenreich pick too. I was really happy to see him go to Pittsburgh. It opens up a lot of opportunity for him. It's a good space. Routine for the kid. Champio: I- Yeah, they picked Kaden Wetjen as a return specialist for since they let go of Calvin Austin and ⁓ pretty much most of the rest of the receiver core that was hanging on and everyone was always like, well, who's behind DK? ⁓ So now that they have Pittman there, Jeremy Bernard was a good pick because he's a glue guy who will just fill in, move some chains. ⁓ Daniel: Thank you. Jonathan: Mm-hmm. Champio: offensive line is insane. So adding the depth of this to it was a good move because their main thing's been health. So that's good. So I give them a B, a solid B, but it could be better. Yeah, I see where and why they did stuff. Jonathan: Yeah. Let's get to the stage. Champio: And did you see? They got Jennings Dunker. He was the O. Lineman mascot of the rookies coming in. Full, what's it called? Party in the front. I mean, party in the back and yeah, red hair mullet, cop mustache, big corn fed boy. Yeah, he's, yeah. Jonathan: Okay, all right. Daniel: on you Jonathan: ⁓ mullet. We got a mullet. Hey, man. Thank Champio: He's awesome. So yeah, I'm. Daniel: They put it in something Gorilla is what they call them Caucasian gorilla or something like that. Vanilla gorilla. ⁓ Champio: The vanilla gorilla. Jonathan: That's funny. Champio: Yeah, so I give a B. Daniel: Alright, on to a team that we have no idea what they did. Jonathan: It's. San Francisco 49ers fail. Fuck they failed. Yeah, this is bad. I'm not a fan of anything that Lynch pulled out this year. He could have done no first round pick. I get that, but it doesn't mean that you fail from two on, Yeah. Yeah. One pick out of the eight picks I like. I gave the Klon Black. Daniel: fail at F come on on Lynch Champio: Aw man. Daniel: Fail. Fail. Moving on. Champio: Bye. Yeah, his analytics actually feel pretty well. Jonathan: Strong pair of legs, good running back, thrown him behind CMC. Yay, thrown him behind CMC. He'll take over the number two spot. Champio: And they picked up a guy named Ephesians because they need Jesus. Jonathan: They they do they do indeed they do indeed ⁓ fail the Super Bowl Seattle's chickens I actually like the Judarian price ⁓ man he he I think he instantly stepped into a role when he was drafted and I'm sad I didn't get any piece of that so good for him Champio: Yeah, it was a bad, bad draft. Daniel: Yep. Champio: See you there. Yep, and they'll be working on that, Ransfer. Yeah. Daniel: I like their whole draft. I give them an A. Honestly, I really like their whole draft. Jonathan: I like some home crafts. ⁓ I didn't like all of it. I liked the Bud Clark pick. I wasn't sold on Neal, but I did like both Stevens, ⁓ Manuel Henderson, but I did like, I did like Fuller. Don't really know. Eastern. Champio: I think they kept the thing the thing. They're trying to improve their strengths and ⁓ they didn't have many holes and I give them a B plus. You know? Yeah. I would have liked to see them trade back for Jderian price. Like they really tried to move back at least 10 spots and they were pretty sure they were going to get them there. Daniel: Depths, depths, depths, Jonathan: Yeah. C+. See you. Champio: and pick up another draft pick, I think to add more cornerback, but they still got it anyway. So I would have liked to see what they did with that. Jonathan: But you're getting that extra year out of your rookie running back that you don't have to worry about that position, right? So I don't know. I don't mind that. It's a spot. It's good spot. Champio: Yeah. Yeah, I- Yeah, don't Jonathan: I don't know. C++. Okay. Okay. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers. This podcast loves bleeds. Champio: Man. Jonathan: We all like different uniforms in the building. Yes, we like them all. Champio: I, there are two things I would choose to change, but I know that, ⁓ light knows more than I do. So I give them a plus even knowing I would have done two things different. ⁓ Ted Hurst. I would have liked to see Pregnon there instead, ⁓ as our guard going up there, stirring up our offensive line. Jonathan: Alright? Let's hear it. Champio: keeping everything strong, keeping Baker free and open. ⁓ that was the one I would have done. ⁓ man. then, yeah, looking at everything we got here, I would have liked to see if we did Pregnon instead, then in the fifth round, get UR and have that beast on our D line with Veya. I would have really loved that instead of ⁓ Billy Scrouth. ⁓ But yeah, I still look at this draft and go, holy crap, we came away with that. That's a solid, solid draft. I'm super happy. Jonathan: Hmm. I can't believe that Bain fell to us. That was something. I'm ⁓ happy with the Bain pick. Love anything else. Of course I would have loved styles or a couple other things but like Bain fell. That was a good pick. I didn't expect to fall and it did. Champio: That was. falling all the way to us was a freaking lottery golden ticket in the wind that happened to plant itself firmly in our pocket and we took it to the bank, man. That was amazing. Amazing, amazing. Jonathan: He walked right by that grabbed the hat didn't even stop at the mirror said fuck the rest of the rookies. I'm doing my thing You know, I'm good Champio: I had him graded so high, so high. ⁓ I was telling you all about his short arms and what it actually goes to show. I said, if you're not an offensive line, doesn't matter because you're using leverage punches and all these other things. The way he went with power, it doesn't matter. actually, you wear your joints less when they're shorter. And I was like, Jonathan: and Daniel: attack. Jonathan: That kid has heart. Yeah, and he's got heart and drive. Daniel: generate more power. Champio: Dude, he's... He's our new man up, man. He's... ⁓ man. I'm... Jonathan: Yeah, no, I dig it. I'm a good engineer. I like it. So ⁓ I'm not against the Hurst pick. I didn't mind it. I didn't mind wide receiver. He was was good one. I like the Keonate Scott. I like that one. Daniel: Love that pic. Jonathan: Yeah, I think that's the subject. Champio: Don't get me wrong, I like Hurst. I like Hurst a lot. I think if we would have short... Pregnon? Pregnon would have been like the dude to help out. And our line? Top three. Yeah. It would have been top three. Daniel: you Jonathan: You just, you wanted that. Yeah, yeah. Daniel: I would have done Pregnon over Trotter. Champio: Yeah, that's how much I like him. Jonathan: Mm. Yeah, I'd be okay. I would be okay with that. Daniel: And I would have kept hers. I do like the Trotter Pig. I think it's a great pig for a linebacker, but I think that I would have moved Guard up further. Jonathan: I like hers. I think we could have done better if we been back here. Yeah, I would have done it. I like Trotter, but I would have gone something else. Daniel: And he, I mean, you might've been able to get him somebody else in the third or fourth round as linebacker, but I mean, Trotter's young, he's got the pedigree, he's got the athleticism, he doesn't have the experience, could take him time. But Pregnon is a win now piece, improving the offensive line and a guard on the guy that we need to keep healthy in Baker Mayfield because he will play through injuries and he doesn't play as well when he's hurt at all. He's not one of those guys that can go out there. Champio: Yeah. Jonathan: Yeah Daniel: and play hurt and you don't see the drop off. You see it with Baker. And so we need to keep him healthy because when he's healthy, he's awesome. So guard, guard, guard, guard, guard, guard. Yeah, just more offensive line. Champio: Yeah. Jonathan: Yep. He gets rattled. Yeah, he rattled. Champio: Yeah. It killed me. Jonathan: Yeah, I would've been good with a, I like them chunky picks. Champio: Yeah, it killed me when Pregnon was still there at the third and we picked anything other than him. Daniel: ⁓ when Dvea Ayawani went before we picked Ruben Bayne, that still broke my heart. Even though I'm really happy with the Bayne pick, ⁓ we were so close. Champio: It did. Yeah. But I was like, ⁓ my gosh, we're going to go away with Pregnum. ⁓ my gosh, we're to go away with Pregnum. And then they went Trotter instead. And then he kept falling. And I was like, OK. Because I was like, he's not a first round pick. He's not a first round pick. He's a guard. He's a solid guard. He's going to be great. ⁓ But. Jonathan: Thank Daniel: Yeah. Champio: I, when he fell, I was like, okay. And then third round, ⁓ my gosh, she's still there. And then we picked Ted Hurst and I was like, okay, now I'm mad a little bit. Daniel: you Jonathan: You Daniel: We'll have to see how the rookie year works out. He's going to be one of those players that you keep an eye on forever. Man, I have some of those. Jonathan: Absolutely, All right, let's finish out there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's finish out our last two teams. have the Tennessee Titans, 8 picks, Caronel Tate took pick number four. First wide receiver off the board. Daniel: Yep. Cedric fault edge 31. Champio: Yeah. He's a solid wide receiver. Yeah. Jonathan: I like the Anthony Hill pick. Yeah, I like the Anthony Hill pick, the linebacker. Yeah, I want to like. Daniel: Anthony Hale is a great pick. Fernando Camona, still good. Nick Singleton is a great lot of your ticket. Champio: Fantastic pigs. Yep. Jonathan: Yeah. Difted big guy production back. I like, I liked him. Yeah. He was on my list. ⁓ Daniel: ⁓ huh. Yes he did. Jonathan: Yes he did, yeah I'm always wanting your three. Yeah I'll go B. Daniel: I give him a B. Champio: ⁓ Yeah, I give them a B minus. Daniel: B plus. Champio: I give them a B minus. Their first three picks are about as solid as you could have got for what you needed. ⁓ Helped all around for your team build. Tate, I'm not sure I would have taken that high because of what else your whole team needs. Jonathan: I hope you I think we all like the different wide receivers and I don't think Tate was on anyone's first list. think, I mean like... Right? know I liked lemon and ⁓ Champio: He was right receiver one or two. He's a solid wide receiver. But yeah. Daniel: See. Take me to the need. They need precision, trustworthy safety blanket now. Jonathan: It's going to help. It's going to Yeah, it's going to help. What's his name? They're quarterback. So he needed the war needed the help. They bring in help. They bring in guard center. Champio: I thought it would be funny to see AJ Brown come back. Daniel: And that's why I like the single pin Singleton pick too, is because like if Pollard goes down, Spears still isn't healthy. You've got to check down back. Right? So you've got, you got a ⁓ quarter. Yep. The most quarterback friendly wide receiver in the draft in Cardinal Tate and quarterback friendly running back in Nicholas Singleton. Yeah. Jonathan: And yeah. And simple things, take that spot from Spears. Yeah, I actually, ⁓ I created the Titans as an A-. Actually, I like their draft. I like what they did. I go in A-. I think they were one of the most improved teams that from like where they finished last year to where they should finish this year, I think they'll be one of the more improved teams of the draft, I think. Champio: Yeah, I am impressed. Daniel: I like it. Jonathan: because they did well and think it's just going be a big sign for coach. Yeah, well they brought in a whole new squad and it's going to be different for Ward. I think it's a whole new offense for him. Yeah, it's a whole new year. Ain't the crap, guys. Yep. Champio: I think, think Coding has a lot to do with that. Daniel: That's right. The bald squad. That was part of the requirements was needing to be bald. To be follically disinclined. Champio: Yes, Chrome Dome. Jonathan: And ⁓ yeah, that was good. Everybody was all right. right. ⁓ Washington commanders finish out our last team on the board. They stole Sonny Styles. I fucking hate them. I can't even an F right there and that for that. ⁓ my goodness. But yeah, they deserve an A because the Sonny Styles, I think just on his name alone, they could fail the rest of the draft, which they didn't do. Champio: Yeah, they didn't mess up. He was there, they took him. Jonathan: They didn't mess up. Yeah, they did well. They did well at seven. They said, this guy dropped us at seven? What? And yeah, they did fucking well, think. Daniel: him in a Dan Quinn offense. Good God. Jonathan: Hehehehehe Champio: Yeah, we got the new Bobby Wagner. He's gonna put it on a jacket for sure. Daniel: Good God. Yeah, but it's like, but it's... It's like Bobby Wagner and Cam Chance or had a baby. That's Sonny Styles. That's insane! Jonathan: Yeah, Bobby Wagner, future Flutiquely right here. I It's like Bobby Wagner in Camp Chancellor. Yeah, there you go. Hard-hitting Camp Chancellor. Champio: Yeah, no you're right. That's it. Daniel: Yeah. Jonathan: And he's an angry player he plays angry too, I love it he's a meat yeah, I love it Daniel: He's an enforcer at the linebacker position that's extremely intelligent. Champio: Yeah. I like you saying that he's converted safety. So yeah, that's exactly it. man. then, yeah, Antonio Williams, that was a position of need. Joshua Joseph at Edge. was a position of need. Patron. Alan is no joke. Jonathan: Mm-hmm. plays hard hitting. Hard hitting. Tate and Alan. Tate and Alan, what a pick right there at 187. Champio: in the sixth round, that's awesome. Daniel: People, people knock his, his lack of receiving, but if, ⁓ guess who else was in the backfield with him? Nicholas Singleton, was one of the best receivers in the country. Like it's the same thing. He like, maybe he just wasn't as good as that guy. So they didn't mix them in in that, right? Judarian Pierce was the second run to best running back in this draft. But what did he do? Jonathan: Mm-hmm. Champio: Yeah. Daniel: Nothing, he Julian love that he was running behind. So, I mean... Jonathan: He only just fell into a great situation of a team that got rid of their running back. And you got their other running back injury issues with ⁓ Zach Charbonneau. Champio: Personally, I'm a little gun shy after Roshan Johnson being drafted to my team and sitting there for a while and not doing much and being the golden boy that was, if he only got a chance. So I was gonna let someone else pick that up. Jonathan: Yeah. Yeah. Daniel: Yeah, I feel that one too. Jonathan: That's a rough one. ⁓ hey, I give him an egg funny styles kills it for him and honestly I like the H1 Alan pick too. So ⁓ Okay, let's see We're already in an hour and ten minutes you want to five minutes and talk to edge real quick Not really, but we can be really fast we don't have to go every game. Yeah Daniel: I agree. Champio: I give him a boot plus to go. Daniel: Will it be five minutes is the question. 50 more minutes. ⁓ Key, key marks. Bears and dolphins have the worst, hardest schedule ⁓ this season. So, and Cardinals. Those help the tanking teams right there, doesn't it? Jonathan: Well, yep, those are the... yeah, yeah. And no way. Daniel: Not the Browns Browns to the playoffs this year softest schedule Jonathan: And you know, let's see here. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight out of the last eight years. One, two, three, four, four of the best schedule have missed the playoffs. I can see the Browns missing. And then the other four lost in division round, lost in division round, lost in wild card, lost in division round. Champio: Yeah. Jonathan: So easiest schedule in the last eight years has not won a Super Bowl. We're gotten close. I guess division round is kind of close. Champio: I don't know, I can't ⁓ see the... No, it's hard to see the Browns making it all with their division. Jonathan: ⁓ yeah, think about it. And then you got, it's a Shador. You think Shador's going to take them to the playoffs? Champio: I think they're most improved. Yeah, I do actually. I think he's got enough. I think we were talking about that basement that could evaluate your team. And I think he's accurate. Jonathan: Thank you. Daniel: you Champio: And that can tell you who's good and who isn't on your team. And you know where your weakness is if he plays really well and gets them to do their thing. And then you just replace him with a quarterback. And I think he's enough and the team's enough to where I think they could do really well this year. Not win their division, but a lot better. Jonathan: ⁓ I mean, the fact that you have Sanders and Dillon that are sitting on that team that you both drafted in the same year, and they're about to get replaced by another quarterback. Come on, okay. Champio: Yeah, but I think Sanders is just enough. Just enough. Jonathan: Absolutely. Absolutely. Daniel: Let's put them out there. Jonathan: I don't I mean you're wrong. I don't think you're wrong Daniel: Why? Why would you? Yeah, I mean you gotta have them play. Why would you ever put Watson out? Right? Watson's not your future. You know that now. There's no way Watson's your future. Jonathan: Although he's great. Well, you've got to keep taking a bat to his knee and keep claiming that he's injured and having surgery to get your money back out of his contract. Remember, we had that talk. Daniel: Well, you just, you still start to do war. Champio: That's right. The injury clause for three. Jonathan: Yeah, stay down. Hey, we got insurance on his money, right? Good. Stay down. You know it's good for you. Daniel: the equipment manager is working on his swing a little bit. Jonathan: Yeah! ⁓ Champio: Thank Yeah. Jonathan: Alright, opening game is Sunday, September 9th. My son's birthday. It's the Patriots versus Seahawks. Okay, okay, not bad. I yeah. I feel like we're gonna get bit. Champio: Yeah, I know. They're like, again? Daniel: Poor patriots. I feel like that's messed up. Yeah. Jonathan: Yeah, yeah, yeah. You have, let's see, a battle for California yet nowhere near California. First international game of the year. 49ers and Rams. Daniel: in Australia. Champio: Yeah. Jonathan: 10 games they agreed, 10 games next season they're gonna have outside of the US. Champio: Mm-hmm. do you see the stats on the Giants? They get to play most of the teams coming back from their overseas trips the week after. Jonathan: I don't know how many they have this year, but know next year they agree that it will be 10 games. Daniel: Yeah, that's fun. Jonathan: ⁓ no way, aww. ⁓ Champio: That's what isn't factored into their schedule percentage is the rest. Their teams, they're going against, their rest is low. Jonathan: You Daniel: injuries Jonathan: and they do sit in bottom half. Yeah, they are. are in the bottom half of towards the easier schedule. So are we. So we're not far off. That's a good thing, I guess. We need all the help. Champio: Yeah, but they get to hit people up after all that plane flying. Jet lag. They're going to hit all the jet lag opponents. Jonathan: I just don't like to see our first team we're playing is Cincinnati Bengals and their ⁓ third easiest schedule. So don't like that we're the first game against them and being called the easiest schedule over here. This is bullshit. Daniel: The bangles are notoriously bad for the first two to three weeks though. So if we lose, that's when I'm gonna get worried. Jonathan: ⁓ I know, but I keep having this thing where we like to lose our week one battle. This is what happens. mean, Baker's been winning it for us the last few seasons, but I'm pretty used to us losing week one. I just throw that out there. Champio: Yeah. I'd like to see us win that. I think we can. Daniel: Bears and Panthers I'm excited about. Jonathan: Yeah, there's Panthers game. am pretty excited about that. ⁓ Daniel: I want to see what Jonathan Brooks does. I want to see how the Bears offense looks. And I want to see. Champio: Yeah. I... I hate... Jonathan: Is he coming back for week one? Champio: No, not week one. Daniel: He's cleared. He's 100 % cleared. Jonathan: ⁓ I yeah, I didn't hear, I didn't think he was week one. Yeah, I didn't think Brooks was coming back week one. Daniel: Jonathan Brooks. Champio: Yeah. Daniel: They said that he's been cleared for OTAs, so there's the possibility of his... Champio: Yeah, I thought they're going to do a soft install with him, but I could be wrong. Daniel: They might start the season that way, but he's still going to be running week one. He's going be active. Jonathan: I mean, I would, but man, I'd be excited to finally see him on the field, because that's been the name I liked. I've been wanting to see him, not getting to see at all with his injuries, so. Okay. Champio: Yeah. Yeah, I hate what the pants have been doing. Daniel: And seeing what the bears pull out. Dylan, then a man. Jonathan: Let's see. See, here's Sunday's game of the day. Dolphins versus the Raiders. Daniel: I'm looking forward to that. Jonathan: I mean, I'm joking. There was a lot of sarcasm in my voice. I'm sorry. I didn't know if that was coming. Champio: I don't think you understand the amount of news that is going to eat up. Daniel: I just week week one. I want answers, right? I want what the receivers are gonna be. I want to see who's who's Like that's what I'm looking forward to. Those are the games I'm choosing because I want to see answers Jonathan: in a few minutes. Champio: F. Jonathan: ⁓ he's trying to talk to us, we're losing him. Champio: It could be such an incredible beat down that everyone's like, Kubiak really turned this thing around and they way over dramatize it. The way they did when he had the first four games of the Saints and it's just, Dolphins are going to be absolute crap. They're rebuilding so much it's going to be hard for them all to get back together. yeah, so that could be exciting if you're a Raiders fan. Daniel: Well, I'll that. Jonathan: ⁓ of course we are. So many new names on that team coming in that are going to be starting positions. Miami's going to look like fucking something. But then again, they're trying to go for that first pick. So I fully expect a tank season all year long. Tanking for Manning, tanking for somebody. Champio: Yay. Daniel: Cardinals Chargers, Commanders Eagles, those are the other ones I'm interested in. Cowboys Giants, I want to see what Downs is for the Cowboys. Jonathan: I'll meet you for another quarterback. boy is giant. Champio: And I'm so mad at the Jaguars for their draft. I want to see them lose to the Browns so bad. I hate their whole draft except for Gregnon. And I hate that because they took him from us. Daniel: Fantasy implications everywhere. Jonathan: Because they took him. You took him from me. He could have been mine. That's funny. I like that. Daniel: you Champio: That's the only non-stupid pick they did. And, Man, I F, F on the Drag Wars draft. Pregnon was the only thing they did right and he fell so far. I'm like, you guys should have grabbed him earlier. So ⁓ did your Jenner come up and hit you with his mop? Jonathan: That's pretty good. F! ⁓ You say he's been upset he's mentioned this a lot. I'd say he's pretty upset over the pregnant. Yeah. Commanders had Eagles, Packers had Vikings, ⁓ Broncos had Chiefs. I mean, I want to see Broncos back together healthy, Bo Nicks on the field. Champio: I'm so mad with them. Daniel: Yeah, I don't think so. I think he's just fine. or not. Have you seen pictures of his ankle? Lower leg. Jonathan: Yeah, ⁓ I doubt he starts the season and daddy starts the season Mean, yeah, it's not even gonna be my home. It's be just the feet. Yeah, it's gonna be fucking Justin Fields out there ⁓ yeah, Justin Fields. Let's see it, dude. Let's see it You have one chance to dethrone my homes Champio: Yeah. Daniel: . Champio: Yeah, think they're drafting another QB in 2027. Daniel: It's not gonna be my homes. Champio: Yeah, I think Broncos are picking a new QB in 2027. Jonathan: Yeah Daniel: I think it's possibility. Jonathan: Possibly. Possibly. Yeah. I think there'd be a handful of teams picking quarterback in that year. There's a lot of good quarterbacks that year. I have like seven. I have like five, six, maybe possibly first round. There's like really some really good names in there for quarterback. Because I have a feeling that there's gonna be like three in the first 10. So. Daniel: Sucks. Champio: Yeah. I could see seven going on the first round. I really could. Yeah. Jonathan: I don't see far off of like six to seven in the whole first round being that it's such a good year of position. So I see him going early just at fifth round contract, all that stuff. So, but I don't know, I could be wrong. I could be wrong. All right. Well, a hundred hour and 20 minutes. I love it. If you're still listening, we love you. Thank you for listening. ⁓ Review and rate the show wherever you listen to us. It really helps us out right into the show. If you have any questions, F F WC. Champio: Yeah. Jonathan: I ⁓ think it's our exit at war underscore fantasy and we have a we have a Facebook as well. So ⁓ thanks for listening. And as always, I have nothing written. What do you got? There we go. Daniel: Keep conquering. 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