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- 0:00SPEAKER_02: When you get your first job, you can open an account that grows your money for 50 years.
- 0:06SPEAKER_01: And there are two kinds, and one is a way better deal for teenagers.
- 0:11SPEAKER_00: And most teenagers pick the wrong one or don't pick at all.
- 0:15SPEAKER_00: So we're settling it with a game show.
- 0:18SPEAKER_00: Welcome back to the only game show where all the prizes are fake, but the lessons are real.
- 0:24SPEAKER_00: Contestant number one, she reads tax brackets for fun, Emily.
- 0:29SPEAKER_00: Contestant number two, he's never read anything.
- 0:33SPEAKER_00: Austin.
- 0:33SPEAKER_00: I read the back of a cereal box this morning.
- 0:36SPEAKER_00: Ingredients count.
- 0:38SPEAKER_00: Tonight, one of you will walk away with$100,000.
- 0:43SPEAKER_00: Real?
- 0:43SPEAKER_00: Cardboard.
- 0:44SPEAKER_00: And the loser has to look at the camera and say, I know nothing about money.
- 0:49SPEAKER_00: I'll be saying nothing.
- 0:50SPEAKER_00: That's the spirit, round one.
- 0:52SPEAKER_00: For a hundred points, what does IRA stand for?
- 0:57SPEAKER_00: Irish Republican Army?
- 0:59SPEAKER_00: That is a completely different IRA, and we are not doing that episode.
- 1:04SPEAKER_00: Emily?
- 1:05SPEAKER_02: Individual retirement account.
- 1:07SPEAKER_02: Individual is the keyword.
- 1:09SPEAKER_02: Your boss does not open this one.
- 1:12SPEAKER_02: You open it yourself at a bank or with an investing app.
- 1:15SPEAKER_02: The money goes in, gets invested, and grows until you retire.
- 1:20SPEAKER_00: Correct.
- 1:20SPEAKER_00: 100 points.
- 1:21SPEAKER_00: Who's allowed to open one?
- 1:23SPEAKER_02: Rich people.
- 1:24SPEAKER_02: Anyone with a job.
- 1:26SPEAKER_02: You need an earned income.
- 1:28SPEAKER_02: Meaning you need a paycheck.
- 1:30SPEAKER_02: It could be from lifeguarding, mowing, an actual job.
- 1:34SPEAKER_02: Anything counts.
- 1:35SPEAKER_02: And you can't put in any more than you earned that year.
- 1:39SPEAKER_02: And if you're under 18, a parent has to open it with you.
- 1:43SPEAKER_00: 200 points.
- 1:44SPEAKER_00: Now the big one.
- 1:46SPEAKER_00: There's two different flavors, Roth and Traditional.
- 1:49SPEAKER_01: What is the difference?
- 1:51SPEAKER_01: Traditional is a classic.
- 1:52SPEAKER_01: I am a classic guy.
- 1:54SPEAKER_01: Roth IRA is a remix.
- 1:56SPEAKER_02: Actually, it's all about when you pay taxes.
- 2:00SPEAKER_02: Roth, you pay taxes now on the money going in.
- 2:04SPEAKER_02: Then it grows, and when you take it out at retirement, you pay zero taxes.
- 2:10SPEAKER_02: Not on the growth, not on anything.
- 2:14SPEAKER_02: Traditional, you skip the taxes now.
- 2:17SPEAKER_02: It grows.
- 2:18SPEAKER_02: Then you pay taxes on the whole pile when you take it out.
- 2:22SPEAKER_00: So it's taxed now or tax later?
- 2:25SPEAKER_02: Tax now on the small amount or tax later on the big amount.
- 2:30SPEAKER_00: Scoreboard, Emily 300, and Austin negative.
- 2:34SPEAKER_00: Before we pick a flavor, why put your money in at all?
- 2:38SPEAKER_00: Why not just spend it right now?
- 2:40SPEAKER_01: Finally, a question for me.
- 2:42SPEAKER_01: Spend it.
- 2:43SPEAKER_01: Get shoes, concert tickets, and a PS5.
- 2:46SPEAKER_00: Let's find out.
- 2:47SPEAKER_00: Closest guess without going over wins.
- 2:50SPEAKER_00: You put$100 a month into an IRA starting at 18.
- 2:54SPEAKER_00: You never touch it.
- 2:56SPEAKER_00: How much do you have at 65?
- 2:59SPEAKER_01: $100 a month times a bunch of months.
- 3:02SPEAKER_01: I'm guessing$100,000.
- 3:04SPEAKER_02: I'll say$400,000.
- 3:07SPEAKER_00: And the actual answer is$438,000.
- 3:12SPEAKER_00: From$100 a month?
- 3:14SPEAKER_02: You only put in about$56,000 yourself.
- 3:18SPEAKER_02: And the other$380,000 is just your money making money.
- 3:24SPEAKER_02: And then that money making money, and then that money making money, and then that money making money.
- 3:30SPEAKER_02: That's just compounding.
- 3:32SPEAKER_00: Bonus question.
- 3:33SPEAKER_00: Same$100 a month, but you wait till you were 28 because you were busy.
- 3:38SPEAKER_00: That's around$210,000.
- 3:41SPEAKER_00: So waiting 10 years costs you around half.
- 3:43SPEAKER_01: So my PS5 is a$200,000 PS5?
- 3:47SPEAKER_02: Pretty much.
- 3:48SPEAKER_02: Starting early is the cheat code.
- 3:51SPEAKER_00: That's why it matters, folks.
- 3:53SPEAKER_00: Now, which flavor?
- 3:54SPEAKER_00: I'll describe a person and you tell me Roth or Traditional.
- 3:57SPEAKER_00: Here's the secret: the one side that wins is the one where the tax rate is lower.
- 4:03SPEAKER_00: Emily, explain it to the people at home.
- 4:05SPEAKER_02: The more you make, the higher your tax percentage.
- 4:08SPEAKER_02: Those are tax brackets.
- 4:10SPEAKER_02: Broke teen, and your rate is tiny, sometimes even zero.
- 4:15SPEAKER_02: Adult making big money?
- 4:17SPEAKER_02: Way higher.
- 4:19SPEAKER_02: So think of a Roth like a student discount on taxes.
- 4:23SPEAKER_02: You pay now while it's cheap and lock it in forever.
- 4:28SPEAKER_00: Contestant number one, I'm 18, I work at Lululemon, and I make around$25,000 a year.
- 4:35SPEAKER_00: Should I go with Roth or Traditional?
- 4:37SPEAKER_00: Traditional, because I'm a traditional guy.
- 4:40SPEAKER_02: Roth! At$25,000?
- 4:43SPEAKER_02: You're in one of the lowest tax brackets.
- 4:46SPEAKER_02: You pay a tiny bit of tax now, and then every dollar it grows is tax-free.
- 4:52SPEAKER_02: Forever.
- 4:53SPEAKER_02: Student discount locked in.
- 4:55SPEAKER_00: Correct.
- 4:56SPEAKER_00: Next question.
- 4:57SPEAKER_00: I'm 47, I'm an accountant, and I make$300,000 a year.
- 5:02SPEAKER_00: I'm in a very high tax bracket and I'm very boring.
- 5:06SPEAKER_00: Traditional?
- 5:07SPEAKER_00: Correct.
- 5:08SPEAKER_01: Yes, I'm a traditional guy.
- 5:11SPEAKER_01: It finally paid off.
- 5:12SPEAKER_02: Accountant guy pays a super high tax rate right now.
- 5:17SPEAKER_02: So skipping the taxes saves him a lot.
- 5:21SPEAKER_02: When he retires and stops getting a paycheck, his tax rate is probably gonna be a lot lower.
- 5:27SPEAKER_02: Also, at that income, he mostly isn't allowed to put money straight into a Roth.
- 5:33SPEAKER_00: Next question.
- 5:34SPEAKER_00: I'm 16, I'm a lifeguard, and I made$6,000 last year.
- 5:38SPEAKER_02: Roth.
- 5:39SPEAKER_02: And it's not even close.
- 5:41SPEAKER_00: Why?
- 5:42SPEAKER_02: You get to earn a certain amount of money each year before you even owe federal tax at all.
- 5:48SPEAKER_02: That amount is way more than$6,000.
- 5:52SPEAKER_02: So you're paying basically zero tax now, either way.
- 5:56SPEAKER_02: Traditional saves you basically nothing today, and you have to pay taxes on all of it later.
- 6:03SPEAKER_02: Roth costs you nothing today, and you basically never pay taxes on it.
- 6:08SPEAKER_00: So for most of our audience.
- 6:10SPEAKER_02: Roth.
- 6:11SPEAKER_02: Almost every time.
- 6:13SPEAKER_01: And if I'm somewhere in the middle, then it's kind of a toss-up.
- 6:17SPEAKER_02: Some people even do a little bit of both.
- 6:19SPEAKER_00: Lightning round, will tax rates be higher or lower in 40 years?
- 6:23SPEAKER_00: Higher.
- 6:24SPEAKER_02: Lower.
- 6:25SPEAKER_00: Wrong, both of you.
- 6:26SPEAKER_00: The answer actually is no one knows.
- 6:30SPEAKER_02: That's the hidden risk of traditional.
- 6:33SPEAKER_02: You pay taxes later at whatever the tax rate is later.
- 6:37SPEAKER_02: And Congress can change it.
- 6:39SPEAKER_02: With a Roth, you already paid, so nobody can raise your price.
- 6:43SPEAKER_00: Next, emergency.
- 6:44SPEAKER_00: Your car dies.
- 6:45SPEAKER_00: Can you get money out of your Roth?
- 6:48SPEAKER_00: No, it's locked.
- 6:49SPEAKER_00: Like a vault.
- 6:50SPEAKER_01: Like my heart.
- 6:51SPEAKER_02: You can take out the money you put in at any time.
- 6:55SPEAKER_02: No taxes, no penalty.
- 6:57SPEAKER_02: The growth is what you should leave alone until retirement.
- 7:00SPEAKER_02: It's not your piggy bank, but it's not a prison.
- 7:03SPEAKER_00: Alright, last one.
- 7:04SPEAKER_00: How much can you put in a year?
- 7:06SPEAKER_02: For 2026, up to$7,500, or whatever you earn that year if it's less.
- 7:12SPEAKER_01: I earned$400 dog sitting.
- 7:15SPEAKER_02: Then your max is$400.
- 7:17SPEAKER_01: I'm a traditional dog sitter.
- 7:21SPEAKER_00: Final round.
- 7:22SPEAKER_00: Same 18-year-old, same summer job.
- 7:25SPEAKER_00: Your tax rate today is about 12%.
- 7:28SPEAKER_00: You have a thousand dollars to put somewhere.
- 7:30SPEAKER_00: Pick a door and I'll play the third contestant because I'm the host and I do what I want.
- 7:35SPEAKER_00: Traditional, obviously.
- 7:37SPEAKER_00: Door number one, yellow.
- 7:39SPEAKER_00: I spent my thousand dollars on a Fortnite skin.
- 7:43SPEAKER_00: At 65, I have$0 in a story nobody wants to hear.
- 7:47SPEAKER_01: Door number two, traditional.
- 7:49SPEAKER_01: I skipped taxes.
- 7:50SPEAKER_01: So all$1,000 went in.
- 7:52SPEAKER_01: At$5, it has grown to$24,000.
- 7:55SPEAKER_01: Nice.
- 7:56SPEAKER_01: Wait.
- 7:57SPEAKER_01: Then I paid taxes on all of it.
- 7:59SPEAKER_01: And my tax rate is 22% by then.
- 8:01SPEAKER_01: I keep about$18,800.
- 8:04SPEAKER_02: Door number three, Roth.
- 8:06SPEAKER_02: I paid 12% tax first, so only$880 went in.
- 8:12SPEAKER_02: At$65, it's grown to about$21,200.
- 8:18SPEAKER_02: And I keep every dollar.
- 8:21SPEAKER_02: No taxes ever.
- 8:23SPEAKER_01: What if the tax rate is still 12% when I retire?
- 8:26SPEAKER_02: Then we tie.
- 8:27SPEAKER_02: Same percentage now and same percentage later.
- 8:30SPEAKER_02: Traditional only wins if your tax rate goes down.
- 8:34SPEAKER_02: You're 18 on a summer job, it has nowhere to go but up.
- 8:39SPEAKER_00: And the winner of$100,000 cardboard dollars is Emily.
- 8:45SPEAKER_00: Austin, you know what to say.
- 8:48SPEAKER_01: I know that Roth beats traditional when you have a low tax rate and you're young.
- 8:54SPEAKER_01: That's not the line.
- 8:55SPEAKER_01: I know something about money now, so I refuse.
- 8:58SPEAKER_02: An IRA is a retirement account you can open yourself when you have a job.
- 9:02SPEAKER_02: Even part-time.
- 9:03SPEAKER_01: Roth, pay tax now and never again.
- 9:06SPEAKER_01: Traditional, skip tax now and pay later.
- 9:09SPEAKER_00: If you're young and you don't make much yet, then Roth is your student discount on taxes.
- 9:15SPEAKER_02: And start early.
- 9:16SPEAKER_02: A hundred bucks at 18 always beats out 200 bucks at 28.
- 9:22SPEAKER_01: If your job offers a 401k, that's a whole other show.
- 9:25SPEAKER_01: We'll get to it.
- 9:26SPEAKER_02: We are triple demoni, we are teenagers, and this is not financial advice.
- 9:31SPEAKER_01: It's just smart.