Latest / Classic Metal Show / Def Leppard With Goo Goo Dolls: Is This the WORST Tour Pairing?
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- 0:00SPEAKER_02: Hello, this is Marco from the Swedish national band The Crown.
- 0:03SPEAKER_02: You are watching CMS-TV.
- 0:05SPEAKER_02: All
- 0:21SPEAKER_01: right, let's talk about one more thing real quick and we'll get the fuck out of here.
- 0:24SPEAKER_01: All right.
- 0:26SPEAKER_01: We mentioned it, or you mentioned it here in this...
- 0:30SPEAKER_01: In the Aerosmith story, and it's just the last thing.
- 0:34SPEAKER_01: And I actually talked to you about this on the phone because I still am like,
- 0:40SPEAKER_01: here we go being negative again, but I'm going to be negative on this.
- 0:44SPEAKER_01: Def Leppard announced their tour.
- 0:47SPEAKER_01: Yes.
- 0:48SPEAKER_01: I saw a big announcement.
- 0:50SPEAKER_01: With very like bands.
- 0:52SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 0:52SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 0:55SPEAKER_01: They announced it here in Cleveland.
- 0:56SPEAKER_01: And at first, you know, I get the email that says Def Leppard coming to Ohio.
- 1:00SPEAKER_01: And I was like, all right, I interviewed Phil Collin recently.
- 1:04SPEAKER_01: I can make that phone call.
- 1:06SPEAKER_01: I can make that happen.
- 1:08SPEAKER_01: You know, and that was honestly my first thought was I interviewed Phil Collin pretty recently.
- 1:15SPEAKER_01: I'm pretty sure I can make a phone call to get into this one.
- 1:19SPEAKER_03: Not not Phil Collins, but Phil Collin.
- 1:22SPEAKER_01: Phil Collin.
- 1:25SPEAKER_01: You know, Mr. No-Shirt.
- 1:26SPEAKER_03: Yes.
- 1:27SPEAKER_01: I interviewed him.
- 1:29SPEAKER_00: So my thought was, this will be great.
- 1:31SPEAKER_01: I haven't seen Def Leppard since whenever it was that Jeff Scott Soto was in Journey
- 1:36SPEAKER_01: because it was Journey and Def Leppard at
- 1:38SPEAKER_03: Blossom.
- 1:39SPEAKER_03: That was 2006, 2007.
- 1:43SPEAKER_03: I don't think it was that late.
- 1:44SPEAKER_03: I think it was like 2005.
- 1:45SPEAKER_01: All right.
- 1:46SPEAKER_01: It's been a long time.
- 1:48SPEAKER_03: Yes.
- 1:48SPEAKER_01: Since I've seen the LEP.
- 1:50SPEAKER_03: So it's been over 20 years.
- 1:52SPEAKER_01: All right.
- 1:53SPEAKER_00: Makes sense.
- 1:54SPEAKER_00: So I was like, yeah, I'm going to make that call.
- 1:56SPEAKER_00: I'm going to go.
- 1:57SPEAKER_00: Then I looked.
- 2:00SPEAKER_00: And it's with the Goo Goo Dolls
- 2:02SPEAKER_01: and the Struts.
- 2:05SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, oh, this sucks.
- 2:13SPEAKER_01: Who in the hell decided that Def Leppard was a good fit with the Goo Goo Dolls?
- 2:19SPEAKER_03: Well, when I listen to Iris from the Goo Goo Dolls.
- 2:22SPEAKER_03: Which is never, but go ahead.
- 2:24SPEAKER_03: I often think, pour some sugar on me.
- 2:27SPEAKER_01: That's usually the way I go.
- 2:28SPEAKER_03: That's the relatability there for me personally.
- 2:33SPEAKER_01: When I'm just jamming the name in my car, the next song I put on is Switch 625.
- 2:38SPEAKER_01: Every time.
- 2:40SPEAKER_00: Every time.
- 2:40SPEAKER_00: It just works.
- 2:43SPEAKER_01: What fucking lunatic put this shit together?
- 2:50SPEAKER_03: Def Leppard and the Goo Goo Dolls.
- 2:54SPEAKER_03: When I'm listening to Black Balloon, I'm thinking Armageddon it.
- 3:00SPEAKER_00: When was the last time you listened to Black Balloon?
- 3:04SPEAKER_03: Well, I listened to it just the other day.
- 3:06SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
- 3:07SPEAKER_03: Because I was getting amped for this tour.
- 3:09SPEAKER_01: For the tour?
- 3:10SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 3:11SPEAKER_01: You're waiting in the queue to buy your tickets?
- 3:13SPEAKER_03: I was thinking Black Balloon, Armageddon it, I get it.
- 3:19SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it makes sense.
- 3:20SPEAKER_03: It does.
- 3:21SPEAKER_03: It does.
- 3:25SPEAKER_00: Are they even a rock band anymore?
- 3:28SPEAKER_00: Do they know what they want to be?
- 3:32SPEAKER_03: I think they want to be whatever's popular.
- 3:34SPEAKER_03: Whatever pays.
- 3:35SPEAKER_03: Yes.
- 3:37SPEAKER_00: Because in some things, they want to be out with hair bands, which is where they kind of belong.
- 3:43SPEAKER_00: They were one of the dominant hair bands.
- 3:46SPEAKER_00: They really were.
- 3:47SPEAKER_03: They were.
- 3:48SPEAKER_03: They dominated MTV back in 1983 when Pyromania hit the charts.
- 3:55SPEAKER_03: And, you know, again, I was working at a record store at the time.
- 3:59SPEAKER_03: And we could not keep enough Pyromania on the shelf, be it album or cassette tape.
- 4:08SPEAKER_03: I mean, we were sold out.
- 4:10SPEAKER_03: The records and tapes arrived at the store on Tuesday.
- 4:14SPEAKER_03: We were sold out by Thursday.
- 4:16SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I believe that.
- 4:19SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I just don't know.
- 4:20SPEAKER_00: I mean, I have a weird thought on this, and this is just me spitballing here.
- 4:28SPEAKER_01: Do you think Leopard's going to go out and do a tour that fits with the Goo Goo Dolls?
- 4:38SPEAKER_01: Meaning, yeah,
- 4:38SPEAKER_01: they'll play most,
- 4:40SPEAKER_01: I mean, they'll play Pour Some Sugar On Me and Animal and women and stuff like that.
- 4:45SPEAKER_01: But do you think the bulk of this is going to be Miss You in a Heartbeat
- 4:50SPEAKER_01: and Two Steps Behind and Love Bites?
- 4:53SPEAKER_03: So you think they're going to just do ballads?
- 4:56SPEAKER_00: Songs that make sense.
- 4:58SPEAKER_00: Ballads?
- 4:59SPEAKER_00: Not necessarily ballads, but mid-tempo.
- 5:04SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 5:04SPEAKER_00: Ballads.
- 5:05SPEAKER_00: Because if they come out rocking after the Goo Goo Dolls,
- 5:11SPEAKER_00: That's really going to make the Goo Goo Dolls look terrible.
- 5:15SPEAKER_00: I don't know if they care about that, but
- 5:19SPEAKER_00: it just doesn't mix at all unless they do that.
- 5:23SPEAKER_00: I mean, does it mix?
- 5:25SPEAKER_00: Do you see any way that they come out and they play the same set
- 5:31SPEAKER_00: that they were playing with Motley Crue?
- 5:37SPEAKER_03: It's such a weird, weird...
- 5:41SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 5:44SPEAKER_03: I just don't really get the connection there between,
- 5:48SPEAKER_03: and again, I don't even know much about the struts.
- 5:53SPEAKER_00: They're just like one of them hipster bands.
- 5:55SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they're kind of like, aren't they kind of like punk rock in a way a
- 6:00SPEAKER_00: little bit?
- 6:01SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 6:01SPEAKER_00: They're one of those bands that you would hear on Little Stevens Garage or whatever
- 6:06SPEAKER_00: that show
- 6:07SPEAKER_01: is called.
- 6:08SPEAKER_03: Okay.
- 6:09SPEAKER_01: You know, it's that hipster shit.
- 6:11SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 6:12SPEAKER_01: That New York hipster shit.
- 6:14SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
- 6:14SPEAKER_01: I don't think they're from New York, but it's that
- 6:16SPEAKER_00: style, I guess.
- 6:18SPEAKER_03: Okay.
- 6:21SPEAKER_00: I just can't fathom how this works for Def Leppard.
- 6:25SPEAKER_00: Do you think it sells tickets?
- 6:30SPEAKER_00: Do you think that those Goo Goo Dolls fans,
- 6:33SPEAKER_00: all those fucking 40 and 50 year old fucking moms are going to be coming out
- 6:40SPEAKER_00: to see Def Leppard?
- 6:43SPEAKER_03: Well, here's the thing.
- 6:45SPEAKER_03: Did the 40 and 50-year-old moms who liked Def Leppard as teenagers graduate to
- 6:54SPEAKER_03: the Goo Goo Dolls as they aged?
- 6:59SPEAKER_00: Maybe.
- 6:59SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
- 7:02SPEAKER_00: I don't think if you liked Def Leppard
- 7:04SPEAKER_01: before Hysteria,
- 7:10SPEAKER_01: I don't think you like the Goo Goo Dolls at all.
- 7:12SPEAKER_03: Well, you know,
- 7:14SPEAKER_03: Def Leppard were popular a decade before the Goo Goo Dolls kind of became,
- 7:22SPEAKER_03: you know, known.
- 7:23SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 7:25SPEAKER_03: So did you graduate from Def Leppard to Goo Goo Dolls when the 90s hit?
- 7:33SPEAKER_03: I mean, as you age,
- 7:35SPEAKER_03: did your tastes change to go,
- 7:39SPEAKER_03: well, this is what's hip now, and so now the transition kind of makes sense?
- 7:47SPEAKER_00: Maybe.
- 7:47SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
- 7:48SPEAKER_00: I don't see that as the same audience.
- 7:52SPEAKER_03: I don't either.
- 7:53SPEAKER_00: I just don't see that.
- 7:55SPEAKER_00: I see the Goo Goo Dolls playing with, God, I don't even
- 8:01SPEAKER_01: know who.
- 8:03SPEAKER_01: Because I don't listen to that kind of music.
- 8:06SPEAKER_01: I mean, who would be a legitimate
- 8:08SPEAKER_01: band for them to play with?
- 8:10SPEAKER_03: Collective Soul?
- 8:12SPEAKER_03: The Collective Soul?
- 8:13SPEAKER_03: Who was that band that just got the Gallagher Brothers?
- 8:18SPEAKER_03: Oasis?
- 8:19SPEAKER_03: Yeah, Oasis.
- 8:22SPEAKER_03: Maybe, I don't know.
- 8:24SPEAKER_03: They would kind of be better with Oasis.
- 8:26SPEAKER_00: Yeah, maybe.
- 8:28SPEAKER_03: Or...
- 8:29SPEAKER_03: Like you said, who had the album Wunderlust?
- 8:36SPEAKER_00: Wunderlust?
- 8:38SPEAKER_03: Yeah, Wunderlust.
- 8:40SPEAKER_03: What was the band?
- 8:42SPEAKER_03: Something Flowers.
- 8:45SPEAKER_00: The Wallflowers?
- 8:46SPEAKER_03: The Wallflowers.
- 8:47SPEAKER_00: Is that who it was?
- 8:48SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I think so.
- 8:49SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 8:51SPEAKER_03: So, Goo Goo Dolls, Wallflowers.
- 8:55SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but the Wallflowers went away in no time.
- 8:57SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I know, but it was the same era, though.
- 9:00SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 9:02SPEAKER_01: Wasn't that Bob Dylan's kid?
- 9:05SPEAKER_01: Something like that, yeah.
- 9:06SPEAKER_01: Jacob Dylan, was that his name?
- 9:08SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes.
- 9:09SPEAKER_01: So that would make sense.
- 9:11SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Def Leppard
- 9:12SPEAKER_03: does not make sense.
- 9:17SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I just saw this.
- 9:18SPEAKER_00: I was like, what the fuck is this about?
- 9:20SPEAKER_03: Well, they're playing here in the Chicagoland area at the United Center on March 25th of 2027.
- 9:30SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 9:34SPEAKER_03: I'm going.
- 9:35SPEAKER_03: Fuck that.
- 9:38SPEAKER_03: I'm going.
- 9:38SPEAKER_03: I'm going to pay $7,000.
- 9:40SPEAKER_03: I hope it's like this.
- 9:42SPEAKER_03: I hope it's like the Sphere show.
- 9:45SPEAKER_01: Would you like me to make that phone call for you?
- 9:48SPEAKER_03: I would.
- 9:48SPEAKER_01: Would you like me to burn that favor on this tour?
- 9:54SPEAKER_01: Because that's really the stop point is,
- 9:57SPEAKER_01: like I said,
- 9:57SPEAKER_01: I fully, when I first saw the announcement, I was like, I am fucking going to that.
- 10:02SPEAKER_01: I haven't seen Def Leppard in a long time.
- 10:05SPEAKER_01: I'd like to see him.
- 10:07SPEAKER_01: And then I saw that was the Goo Goo Dolls.
- 10:09SPEAKER_01: I was like, yeah, not worth blowing the favor up.
- 10:13SPEAKER_01: Because that's a, you know.
- 10:16SPEAKER_01: To pull back the curtain a little bit, a big band like that, that's a big favor to pull.
- 10:22SPEAKER_01: You know,
- 10:23SPEAKER_01: that's one of those things that's still going to have to get approved
- 10:26SPEAKER_01: through management and everything.
- 10:28SPEAKER_01: That's one of those things that I'm going to have to send the interview
- 10:31SPEAKER_01: and Def Leppard's management will have to review it to see if it was good enough
- 10:35SPEAKER_01: to warrant me a precious seat at the show or whatever, so...
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- 11:20SPEAKER_03: It's a weird bill.
- 11:21SPEAKER_03: It's just not a good bill at all.
- 11:25SPEAKER_03: So is it Def Leppard featuring the Goo Goo Dolls and the Struts or is that
- 11:32SPEAKER_03: a co-headlining tour or what is it?
- 11:35SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
- 11:36SPEAKER_01: I think it's Def Leppard with special guests.
- 11:40SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 11:41SPEAKER_01: Goo Goo and the Struts.
- 11:46SPEAKER_01: I'm seeing if those tickets are on sale yet.
- 11:50SPEAKER_00: Man, Ticketmaster, who built this website?
- 11:55SPEAKER_00: Jesus Christ.
- 11:57SPEAKER_00: Def Leppard.
- 11:59SPEAKER_03: Wow, look at Louis Black.
- 12:01SPEAKER_03: He's looking like death warmed over.
- 12:05SPEAKER_00: Where did
- 12:06SPEAKER_01: you see him?
- 12:07SPEAKER_03: Just on the previous page.
- 12:10SPEAKER_01: And nobody has that screen up.
- 12:11SPEAKER_01: Let me put this up.
- 12:13SPEAKER_01: Def Leppard.
- 12:13SPEAKER_01: I guess it doesn't matter.
- 12:16SPEAKER_01: Find tickets.
- 12:20SPEAKER_01: Thursday, October 15th.
- 12:22SPEAKER_01: Def Leppard.
- 12:27SPEAKER_01: Oh, this is just Def Leppard.
- 12:28SPEAKER_01: This isn't with Goo Goo Dolls.
- 12:29SPEAKER_01: That's not what I want.
- 12:33SPEAKER_01: Oh, pre-sales, not till next week.
- 12:37SPEAKER_00: How come they can't tell you the price?
- 12:41SPEAKER_00: How do you know if you want to buy the tickets if you don't know what they cost?
- 12:45SPEAKER_03: Because it's that, what do they call that?
- 12:48SPEAKER_00: Sliding scale or whatever.
- 12:50SPEAKER_03: Sliding scale or whatever that popularity is.
- 12:54SPEAKER_03: They just jack the price because people want You know,
- 12:59SPEAKER_03: the demand is higher, so they jack the prices.
- 13:03SPEAKER_03: The demand is higher.
- 13:04SPEAKER_01: These fucking assholes.
- 13:06SPEAKER_01: Where does the Little Caesars Arena in Detroit, do you know that place?
- 13:09SPEAKER_01: No idea.
- 13:11SPEAKER_01: Let's find a place.
- 13:17SPEAKER_00: To do Prudential Center, that's pretty big, right?
- 13:21SPEAKER_00: In New Jersey.
- 13:23SPEAKER_00: TD Garden, that's where the Celtics play.
- 13:27SPEAKER_00: It's probably 15,000, right?
- 13:32SPEAKER_00: Hmm.
- 13:33SPEAKER_00: United Center in Chicago.
- 13:37SPEAKER_00: How many does that hold?
- 13:39SPEAKER_03: Like 20,000.
- 13:39SPEAKER_00: All right, so it's just a standard...
- 13:43SPEAKER_00: It's an arena.
- 13:44SPEAKER_03: It's an arena tour.
- 13:46SPEAKER_03: It's where the Hawks play.
- 13:50SPEAKER_00: Well, I guess Def Leppard and the Goo Goo Dolls,
- 13:52SPEAKER_00: and it's being advertised,
- 13:53SPEAKER_00: at least on all these ticket things, as Def Leppard and Goo Goo Dolls.
- 14:01SPEAKER_00: All right, well...
- 14:04SPEAKER_00: To wrap this up, another tour to skip.
- 14:09SPEAKER_00: There's no reason to go.
- 14:11SPEAKER_03: Unless, of course, you get freebies.
- 14:15SPEAKER_00: Like I said, I'm not even going to ask.
- 14:16SPEAKER_00: I'm not going to blow that favor for that.
- 14:19SPEAKER_00: I'll hold on to that favor for something better.
- 14:24SPEAKER_01: If I get it through vet ticks or something, maybe I'll go.
- 14:26SPEAKER_01: But I'm not going to burn a favor for that.
- 14:29SPEAKER_01: No way.
- 14:31SPEAKER_01: It's a waste of a good favor.
- 14:34SPEAKER_01: I'd rather hold on to that favor and get another big band at some point to interview.
- 14:40SPEAKER_03: You don't want to see Johnny Resnick?
- 14:42SPEAKER_00: No.
- 14:44SPEAKER_00: How many times the Goo Goo Dolls have been here and I wasn't at those shows?
- 14:47SPEAKER_00: All of them.
- 14:49SPEAKER_00: Every last one of them.
- 14:53SPEAKER_00: Come on, Chris.
- 14:54SPEAKER_01: Junk.
- 14:56SPEAKER_03: Come on, Chris.
- 14:57SPEAKER_03: No, no, thank you.
- 14:59SPEAKER_03: Go to the Goo Goo Dolls.
- 15:00SPEAKER_01: No.
- 15:05SPEAKER_01: I don't like them.
- 15:07SPEAKER_01: That is not my thing.
- 15:09SPEAKER_03: No?
- 15:10SPEAKER_01: Nope.
- 15:11SPEAKER_03: Not doing it for you.
- 15:13SPEAKER_01: Nah.
- 15:14SPEAKER_03: All right.
- 15:15SPEAKER_03: Let's get the fuck out of here.
- 15:17SPEAKER_03: All right.
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- 15:25SPEAKER_03: That's right.
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- 15:48SPEAKER_03: All right.
- 15:49SPEAKER_03: Well, I'm going to leave you with some galactic cowboys.
- 15:52SPEAKER_03: I know that you talked to Monty.
- 15:55SPEAKER_03: I did.
- 15:56SPEAKER_03: Recently.
- 15:57SPEAKER_03: Yep.
- 15:58SPEAKER_03: Well, King Trump.
- 16:00SPEAKER_03: We'd like to end the show with the Galactic Cowboys in a Lonely Room.
- 16:05SPEAKER_03: Oh, good.
- 16:05SPEAKER_03: Nice.
- 16:06SPEAKER_03: So we're going to end the show with some Galactic Cowboys,
- 16:08SPEAKER_03: and we're going to get out of here, hopefully.
- 16:11SPEAKER_03: Wait, you're not ending with the Goo Goo Dolls?
- 16:13SPEAKER_03: No, I'm not.
- 16:14SPEAKER_03: Damn it.
- 16:16SPEAKER_03: I would just cue up Iris if I was a team player, but I'm not.
- 16:22SPEAKER_01: Well, next week,
- 16:22SPEAKER_01: let's start with the Goo Goo Dolls and we'll throw some Matchbox 20 in there
- 16:26SPEAKER_01: as well.
- 16:27SPEAKER_01: Perfect.
- 16:28SPEAKER_01: Get the show off and running next week.
- 16:31SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
- 16:32SPEAKER_03: No, I'm going to bow to the pressures of the fans who actually support us.
- 16:37SPEAKER_03: Yes.
- 16:38SPEAKER_03: And play some Galactic Cowboys.
- 16:40SPEAKER_03: That works.
- 16:41SPEAKER_03: So for King Trump, we're going to end the show with In a Lonely Room.
- 16:45SPEAKER_03: So until next Saturday night, this is Neely along with my very good friend.
- 16:51SPEAKER_03: Chris Agin.
- 16:52SPEAKER_03: We're gone.
- 16:53Bye, kids.
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