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ITB: Which Injuries Are Most Concerning As Eagles Prepare For Commanders? · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, Welcome to the week fifteen, actually three to
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  Speaker 1: and one. Hello everyone, welcome to Inside the Birds. It's
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  Speaker 1: Adam Kaplan here for Week sixteen. It's a NFC East
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  Speaker 1: Divisional matchup between the host Commanders and Eagles. And let's
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  Speaker 1: get to the injuries, because this is really what this
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  Speaker 1: eight an injury report we updated will give you intel
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  Speaker 1: on both teams on their injury report and any lineup changes.
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  Speaker 2: So let's get to the visiting Eagles first.
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  Speaker 1: And when you look at the Eagles injury report, it's
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  Speaker 1: a little bit longer. There are some small concerns which
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  Speaker 1: week for that game. But first is the Commando's hosting
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  Speaker 1: the Eagles, and let's get to the Eagles injury.
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  Speaker 2: So what's troubling here? Nothing troubling.
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  Speaker 1: The really great news because anytime a player has a
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  Speaker 1: stinger injury, it's not guaranteed he's gonna play.
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  Speaker 2: He's gonna play. They have to massage it out, as
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  Speaker 2: I understand it.
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  Speaker 1: And unfortunately, Jordan Howard's career ended from Eagles and Bears
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  Speaker 1: running back mostly due to stingers. So you get you're
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  Speaker 1: always worried about that. Sae Kwon Barkley running back. If
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  Speaker 1: you watch the game, you saw him, like, if you're
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  Speaker 1: watching on YouTube, you're seeing what I'm doing with my
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  Speaker 1: neck left and right, all right, he was trying to
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  Speaker 1: work out his neck. Well, it would turned out to
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  Speaker 1: be a stinger. So the good thing is he took
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  Speaker 1: all the starters for reps on Wednesday. He's good to go.
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  Speaker 1: Tank Bigsby had an illness on their Tuesday walk through,
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  Speaker 1: the Atlanta walk through, which you have to have two
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  Speaker 1: days after a game. He did participate in on a
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  Speaker 1: limited basis. He took his normal reps. He's the number
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  Speaker 1: two back Will Shipley is the three who helps a
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  Speaker 1: lot out, obviously on third down and also on special teams.
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  Speaker 1: But Bigsby has been a great story. He put it,
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  Speaker 1: he looked good last week. Again, contacts folks don't look
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  Speaker 1: at the yards per carry. Sure yardis is counting that
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  Speaker 1: he looked really good. And I know people wondered, and
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  Speaker 1: so did we here on inside the Birds. He was
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  Speaker 1: awful as a kickoff returner. We know that was part
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  Speaker 1: of it. There was never all he was going to
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  Speaker 1: do for the Eagles.
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  Speaker 2: They wanted.
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  Speaker 1: His main job is they want him to be the
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  Speaker 1: backup to Berkley, and it took him a while, but man,
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  Speaker 1: he's taken that job by storm. In fact, we keep
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  Speaker 1: asking for it. When are you going to use Bigsby
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  Speaker 1: as a change up? Well, you've seen that he's done
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  Speaker 1: a really good job and he's just completely different runner
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  Speaker 1: than Barkley. That's what a change up is. You want
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  Speaker 1: your number two back to not be so similar to
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  Speaker 1: your starter. And that's why that that that looks good there.
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  Speaker 1: Now let's get to the offensive line issues. Landon Dickerson. Now,
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  Speaker 1: he had the CAF injury. He's dealing with it. He's
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  Speaker 1: doing the best that he can on a shirt week.
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  Speaker 1: They rested him. As long as he does something on Thursday,
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  Speaker 1: you could expect him to play. Now. If he doesn't
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  Speaker 1: practice Thursday, that would be concerning. But right now, and
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  Speaker 1: we have more on the on the pregame show, and
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  Speaker 1: we'll give you if there's any concern there for him
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  Speaker 1: playing and then not playing, we'll give you who. We'll
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  Speaker 1: have more insight about who the replacement would be. But
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  Speaker 1: that's such something to keep an eye on. We know
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  Speaker 1: about we know about the knee problems. Uh the postseason
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  Speaker 1: surgery and then the meniscus trim right before the season started.
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  Speaker 2: So got to keep an eye on him.
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  Speaker 1: Fred Johnson with the ankle to the same ancle entry
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  Speaker 1: from last week. I know they're being cautious. He's another one.
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  Speaker 1: You you really want to watch what happens on Thursday,
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  Speaker 1: which is today. Uh So we this is the last
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  Speaker 1: day of practice. If he cannot play because Lane Johnson
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  Speaker 1: hasn't done anything since he got hurt with the list
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  Speaker 1: Fronk's brain, it would either be Matt pryor Brett Toath.
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  Speaker 1: Now Tooth could play every position. Okay, that's the amazing
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  Speaker 1: thing about this guy. He goes have stepped by him
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  Speaker 1: for six years. I give them credit for it, on
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  Speaker 1: and off the rusher for six years. And then Matt
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  Speaker 1: Pryor is not a left guard. He is a right
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  Speaker 1: tackle right guard. They cross train him briefly at left guard.
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  Speaker 1: I remember making a note of it. He says, not
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  Speaker 1: a left guard. Matt Prior's best off at right tackle.
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  Speaker 1: He can play. He can play right guard because he
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  Speaker 1: started there. That's something to keep an eye on in
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  Speaker 1: today's practice, which is the last which is the tune up.
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  Speaker 1: And then Friday they have a walk through before they
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  Speaker 1: travel to well, they probably fly into Dallas. I would
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  Speaker 1: think they used to by the way. They used to
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  Speaker 1: actually take a train. He should actually take Amtrak, by
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  Speaker 1: the way, for many years. But anyway, so we're going
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  Speaker 1: to keep a track on that or what would happen
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  Speaker 1: at right tackle in terms of injury there.
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  Speaker 2: But also for the Eagles that we have to watch.
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  Speaker 2: We just mentioned Lane Johnson and Fred Johnson.
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  Speaker 1: No people want to know, like why did the Eagles
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  Speaker 1: not put Lane on IR because they thought within four
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  Speaker 1: to five weeks hit a chance to come back. Because
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  Speaker 1: though it was a scary injury, it's not the rupture
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  Speaker 1: which would keep him out six to eight months. It's
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  Speaker 1: it's a sprain. It you have to say justice sprain,
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  Speaker 1: but it is a sprain. And if you watch Hard
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  Speaker 1: Knocks will give you a little bit of a heads up.
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  Speaker 1: You could see him actually training to rehabit. So it's
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  Speaker 1: kind of cool that NFL films he was able.
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  Speaker 2: To get that.
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  Speaker 1: Also, Cam Williams the sixth round of Texas their last
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  Speaker 1: draft pick. Here's a project. He's recovered from a shoulder injury.
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  Speaker 1: They're taking it slow with him. They just want to
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  Speaker 1: get him into practice, get the practice tape, take a
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  Speaker 1: look at him, get it ready for next season.
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  Speaker 2: So that is in on offense. Oh other than okay,
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  Speaker 2: another stinger.
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  Speaker 1: My bad Cam Latsu, who's done a great job knowing
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  Speaker 1: special teams where these a deemons, super physical.
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  Speaker 2: We all know an Eagles fan watching this. Most of
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  Speaker 2: you are.
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  Speaker 1: I know there's some Commander fans are watching kick cal Kutara.
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  Speaker 1: We just are dumbfounded by this. Everyone who works for us,
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  Speaker 1: we've lamented it and in our patron members. Judy, if
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  Speaker 1: she's watching, she and I have a good laugh when
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  Speaker 1: we dore Wednesday Chat. Why Cam Lattu I know they're
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  Speaker 1: using him as an offset full back. He's or an
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  Speaker 1: F tight end. Why don't you use him more as
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  Speaker 1: an inline ten end is beyond me. It makes no sense,
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  Speaker 1: but hey, it is what it is. He's been a
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  Speaker 1: good story. Former forty nine er. He goes love these
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  Speaker 1: former forty nine er draft picks. So let's see what
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  Speaker 1: he does here. He's actually important. They need him to
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  Speaker 1: play for the run game now. Defensively, it starts with
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  Speaker 1: Jalen Carter. He has enough practice since he had the procedures,
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  Speaker 1: so we know what's going on there. And how about
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  Speaker 1: Brandon Graham seven snaps and two sacks on the old
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  Speaker 1: twenty two. Watched the hand usage from BG. He just
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  Speaker 1: got up in that guy's chest and he moved the
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  Speaker 1: kid back the guard and it was over. BG playing
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  Speaker 1: left defensive tackle. By the way, for those want to
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  Speaker 1: know what position he's we've been playing inside. Jalen Philips
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  Speaker 1: is fine. He took all the starters reps doing the
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  Speaker 1: walk thron on Wednesday. He had a concussion before, so
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  Speaker 1: you just got to keep an eye on this with
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  Speaker 1: his injury history. But been a really good story of development.
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  Speaker 1: Zach Bond has got the lingering hand injury. He took
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  Speaker 1: all the starters reps. He's good to go. So what
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  Speaker 1: are we watching Eagles wise right now? Just making sure
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  Speaker 1: Landon Dickson practices on Thursday today, making sure that Fred
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  Speaker 1: Johnson works. We've got to watch this, got to watch this.
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  Speaker 1: Those would be the ones for the Eagles. Now, let's
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  Speaker 1: get to the Commandos because they've got a whole host
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  Speaker 1: of problems. Okay, Jane Daniels will not play again the season.
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  Speaker 1: They're letting him practice in limited fashion with the left
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  Speaker 1: elbow dislocation. He reinjured it a couple of weeks ago.
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  Speaker 1: They smartly shut him down, let him heal up, but
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  Speaker 1: let him practice. That's the smart thing by Dan Quinn,
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  Speaker 1: the medical staff.
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  Speaker 2: I like that. Ida.
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  Speaker 1: I mean Marcus Mariota to start, and in Mariota, you
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  Speaker 1: know what, he's getting better. I've talking to people have
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  Speaker 1: looked at his tape, and then backing him up is
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  Speaker 1: the veterable Josh Johnson. He's been on over a third
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  Speaker 1: of the NFL teams. He's I give this guy credit.
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  Speaker 1: He turns forty in May and he's still going. Good
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  Speaker 1: for Josh, who's at one time with the Bucks, he
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  Speaker 1: was a guy who's he started some games. They really
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  Speaker 1: liked him, but he could never put it together. But
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  Speaker 1: he's a true journeyman. And I give this guy credit,
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  Speaker 1: but he's still going strong. It's hard to believe out
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  Speaker 1: of USD University of San Diego. So good for Josh
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  Speaker 1: not hanging it up just yet. Also, when you look
• 10:44
  Speaker 1: at the commander's injury situation, Austin eckler Man, this has
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: crushed them. He tours Achilles in week two, put on
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  Speaker 1: iron week three. They've missed him on third down. I
• 10:56
  Speaker 1: mean big time. Jeremy McNichols is a really good past protector,
• 11:00
  Speaker 1: I'm told that's why still in the league, a good
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  Speaker 1: special teams player, but he's just not good enough as
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  Speaker 1: a pass catcher. They really miss him here, there's no
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  Speaker 1: doubt about it. Chris Rodriguez, who's taken over as the
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  Speaker 1: main back the reason why I'm told they're doing this
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  Speaker 1: because they think with Mariota they don't want him dropping
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  Speaker 1: back a lot. And Krosskey Merritt is more explosive, but
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  Speaker 1: he's not physical. He has no physicality at all in
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  Speaker 1: his game. He's more of a between the tackles. Make
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  Speaker 1: it A guy miss break a little bit outside explosive,
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  Speaker 1: but he doesn't have any physicality to him, and they
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  Speaker 1: want that with Rodriguez, and that's why. Rodriguez, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: is a groin injury. He's expected to play this week.
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  Speaker 1: So the guys that right now Washington would be concerned about,
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  Speaker 1: of no, let's put.
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  Speaker 2: It that way.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, Tunsel he got some work Wednesday. Barring
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  Speaker 1: a setback, he should be able to go with the
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: oblique injury. By the way, he has had a really
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  Speaker 1: good season. It's been a good trade they give to
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  Speaker 1: get him. The guys they concerned about is on defense
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  Speaker 1: is Bobby Wagner, who's clearly slowing down. He's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer. They love his leadership. That's a
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  Speaker 1: big reason why he's there. He's got a knee injury.
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  Speaker 1: He hasn't done anything this week. Let's see what he
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  Speaker 1: does today.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 1: Drake Jackson, I want to talk about him. He's got
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  Speaker 1: to growing in a knee injury. Another former forty nine er,
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  Speaker 1: A second rounder in twenty two. He hasn't played since
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  Speaker 1: twenty three with the Niners, and he was cut in
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  Speaker 1: May by the Niners and he was activated the Niner.
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  Speaker 1: The Commanders brought him in. He was activated off IR
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  Speaker 1: in week fourteen. He's been practicing, he's trending towards playing
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  Speaker 1: this week. It's not a done deal, but this is
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  Speaker 1: his first full week of practice. He's healthy, he's fully
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  Speaker 1: cleared in terms of practicing. So they're going to play him,
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  Speaker 1: and there's a real shot that he plays here. He's
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  Speaker 1: got talent. He missed eleven games in two years and
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  Speaker 1: the Niners gave up on him. Man, that's hard to believe,
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  Speaker 1: but they did. They're also down Ddrick Wise, who, by
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  Speaker 1: the way, that there's a reason why the Commanders, I
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  Speaker 1: know they got credit sized for being all his team
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  Speaker 1: in the National FOOTBA League. My understanding was they kind
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  Speaker 1: of went for it.
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  Speaker 2: Not in spending money. They went with an older team.
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  Speaker 1: They wanted to get more experienced because they were so
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  Speaker 1: much better than probably they thought they would be in
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  Speaker 1: year one with Jaden Daniels and new coaching staff that
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: they just want to add to with wiley veterans, smart
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  Speaker 1: veterans who have been successful like Dietrich Wise. He had
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: a major injury right QUADTA in week two, put in
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  Speaker 1: an iron week three. George Armstrong towards AC on week seven,
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  Speaker 1: one on an Iron week eight. So the starting edges
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  Speaker 1: are done. That's why you see Jacob Martin, former Temple player,
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  Speaker 1: who is a really good player. Like eight or nine
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: years ago, probably eight years ago he would be he
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  Speaker 1: probably wouldn't even be on the team, but now he's
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  Speaker 1: playing a lot and starting because they just they ran
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  Speaker 1: out of players.
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  Speaker 2: But we'll see if Drake Jackson could play this week.
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: Lattimore Marshawn Lattimore to his ace and week nine IRN
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  Speaker 1: week ten that trade has not worked out. Trey Amos
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  Speaker 1: is the second pick out of Mississip broke his ankle
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: week ten, Iron Week eleven, he's done. Jonathan Jones, they
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  Speaker 1: expect him to go this week. Former Patriot long but
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  Speaker 1: he'd been in league a long time. Again, another older player,
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  Speaker 1: well into his thirties. He's got a rib injury. He's
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  Speaker 1: trending towards being able to play. So and of course
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: we do need to mention our old friend Zach Ertz
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: turn read ACL mid thirties. Now you want to I
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: Zach Wilk try to come back his second ACL injury. Look,
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: McCaffrey brooke his collarbone in week nine ir in Week ten.
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  Speaker 1: They're just decimated by injury. We'll talk more about their
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  Speaker 1: lineups and so forth on our pregame show. But they've
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: had such bad luck. You want to know why they
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: haven't been a good team and why they had eight
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: game losing streak. You can't lose this man many players.
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  Speaker 1: You can't have your starting quarterback miss many weeks. There's
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  Speaker 1: going to be a major drop off there is from
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  Speaker 1: Danis to Mariota.
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  Speaker 2: They just don't have the talent level.
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  Speaker 1: And Adam Peters general managers, got to have a job
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  Speaker 1: on his hands here. They have got their quarterback, that's
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  Speaker 1: a great thing, but they've got addresser or receiver position.
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  Speaker 1: Next year. Edge group they got to get much younger.
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: They need at least two edges, if not three. They're
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: gonna have to address the quarterback position once again. They're
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: just they need a lot of help. It is amazing.
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  Speaker 1: This reminds me of what happened to the Giants where
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: they came out of nowhere in Brian dables first year
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  Speaker 1: in twenty two and shock the world won a playoff
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: game at Minnesota and it was ever it was downhill
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  Speaker 1: since then. But yes, they had injuries, but nothing quite
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  Speaker 1: like this. This has been, This has been. You can't
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  Speaker 1: predict injuries, but it's just been a nightmare for them.
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  Speaker 1: But we'll see what happens. You never know what these
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: NFC East games. I've done a good job of picking
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: Eagles games, but obviously I have to lean towards the
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: Eagles here. I mean, we'll talk more about the point
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  Speaker 1: spread on their pre game show, but that's it. For
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: the injuries and the lineup changes. We'll probably have a
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: little We're gonna have a little bit more in the Eagles,
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: especially if we hear anything from more sources of Washington's
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: injury or in terms of lineup change, will give them
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: to you on our pregame show with myself, Jeff Mosher,
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: and Greg Hosell.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: All Right, folks, we appreciate you tuning in. We'll speak
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: to you very very soon. Thank you,