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Should Flag Planting Be Banned in College Football? | Eric Messersmith & Brian Johnson · Kenny Wallace Media

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  Let's talk about college football and what happened over
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  the weekend in several games on rivalry weekend.
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  Most infamously, I guess, was the Michigan, Ohio State game.
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  Michigan pulls the upset at Ohio State, tries to run onto the
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  field to plant their flag, which teams try to do now sometimes on
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  the road at midfield, Ohio State players take exception.
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  There's a brawl. There's pepper spray.
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  Everyone is outraged, clutching their pearls.
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  It happened in in the North Carolina and I'm NC State game.
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  It happened in the Florida State by Florida, Florida Florida
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  State game as well to varying degrees.
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  I find it hard to sum up the outrage for this.
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  Am I wrong? Should I be outraged about it?
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  Well, what side do you fall on? Do you like the flag planting or
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  you don't want the flag planting?
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  I'm on the side of it's not that big of a deal, and it actually
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  kind of is good for the game because it gets people talking
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  and gets people fired up, and as long as no one gets seriously
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  hurt, who cares? Yeah, like.
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  You know shame because they completely agree if you.
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  Don't want someone to plant the flag at mid.
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  No, stop it. Fucking stop them.
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  No. Beat them.
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  No. OK, Ohio State, no Ohio State is
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  loaded this year, OK, at every every position they.
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  Sort of won, really. Touchdown favor and you lose at
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  home and then you cry because you can't handle it because they
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  brought a flag out to midfield. I can't take it, so I'm going to
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  fight you. That's not what that's about.
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  What's it? Oh, it's, I'm sorry.
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  It's disrespectful. Not in our house.
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  You can't disrespect us like that.
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  They disrespected you on the field.
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  That's where Ohio State got disrespected.
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  OK, so this is where I'm going to use the the famous everybody
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  settle down argument of two things can be true at the same
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  time. I think you guys, you and
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  Charlie should pat that. Cause on one hand, I don't think
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  if someone does plant a flag on your field, that immediately
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  means that it's a brouhaha. Like I have to fight everyone.
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  I think in society we are at a point where we should keep the
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  violence in between the lines on the field during regulation play
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  and once a game is over. I don't think we should be
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  trying to harm people with violence.
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  I I don't think that should be a thing.
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  That's not. A wild position to take.
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  No. And I think whether you're 18
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  years old and your frontal lobe is fully formed or you're 45
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  like me, and it is I, I don't know.
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  I was young, I was emotional. So to that point, what I'm
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  saying is I can see the position of I'm going to the school and
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  someone's gonna. It's a flag.
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  Dude. We spent how much time talking
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  about Colin Kaepernick kneeling for the flag?
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  I mean, people get emotional about this stuff, man.
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  It is. Am I saying I agree with you
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  Again, We're in the same place. I would have already been in the
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  locker room in the shower when that flag got planted.
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  But I mean, again, I'm 45. Like, I don't care.
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  Like, I try it. It can work out like it's OK
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  because it is frivolous. It doesn't mean anything in the
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  grand scheme of things. It's just sports.
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  Who cares? It's like the horns down thing
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  when the Texas people get so mad about it, they want to fight
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  people like a get over yourself. But BI didn't have as much as I
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  as I, I'm kind of shitting on the Ohio State players because I
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  think they did, they played terribly and.
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  Blew it. That's also why they got in a
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  fight 'cause they knew that. I want to be clear, as much as I
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  think they were wrong to get into a fight, and as much as I
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  don't have a huge problem with the flag planning, I also don't
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  have a huge problem with Ohio State players doing that either.
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  I don't, I don't think they should have.
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  But let's be honest, you're playing a like, what are we
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  doing? We're telling these kids to beat
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  the hell out of each other for 60 minutes.
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  You know what I'm talking. About the moment, the moment the
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  whistle blows, we can't have any kind of violence.
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  At all, even though we. Just had sanctioned violence for
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  60 minutes now. I agree with that principle,
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  right? I don't want people fighting
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  each other after games. But also do I think it's the
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  most outrageous thing I've ever seen?
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  And I'm, you know. No no, but I just I hate the
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  argument. If you don't want them to plant
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  the flag then stop them. Why are we planting flags on
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  people's fields like? Do you think it should be out?
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  Do you think it should be outlawed?
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  The. No, but I'm just saying if you
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  win, does that mean you can do what any anything you want?
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  You can go to the middle of field, you can plant your flag
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  over my logo, you can fuck my wife, and you can like, what
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  does that mean? What are we talking about?
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  Oh, I'm sorry. I'm the loser.
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  So go ahead, do whatever you want.
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  Wait, what are we talking about? Here, not whatever we want.
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  What we're talking about is you should be.
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  Planting flags you should not be.
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  It's disrespect and that's what it says.
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  Where do you? Draw the line.
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  They can plant a flag. That's why I made the hyperbolic
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  statement about, you know, hollering at my girl like, what
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  are we doing? Like I I'm sorry, I lost.
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  So here just you can do anything you want to be.
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  Now that's not a. Thing.
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  No, not anything. Planting.
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  A flag. On a field, no.
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  If you if you could plant a flag, you can't.
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  On my wife, we're going to fight.
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  You can't do any kind of physical violence.
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  That's that is where you draw the line.
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  But but look, if the NC double AI guess you got to outlaw this
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  now because people can't handle it.
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  So they're going to. So there's automatically going
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  to be a brawl or something. I guess that's what's going to
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  have to happen. I wish one of the Ohio State.
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  Players like it, man. I really don't like here.
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  Here's the thing, and this is where I start to really show my
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  age. I don't love a lot of the
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  celebrations, like after sacks. And like I saw, I saw, I forget
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  who it was. I think it was the Texans or
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  someone. They were down by like 28
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  points. The guy made a sack and you
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  would have thought he like won the Lombardi Trophy.
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  And I'm just thinking, dude, you're down 28.
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  You're getting old. Like you're down 28 points.
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  I think if I think a rule is if the game is beyond 2 scores.
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  So if you're down 17 points or more, you can't celebrate a
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  sack. I, I don't think it should be a
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  role. I don't like it either when it's
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  a BLOB situation, but I also don't care.
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  Like I that's that's kind of where I am with the flag thing,
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  like. Caring is different than liking.
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  That's true. That's true.
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  All right. Any NFL notes from this week
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  that you wanted? Anything you want to talk about?
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  I saw your. Boy, Jameis Winston, the pill
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  around, that's what you're going to get from Jameis.
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  That's the entire Jameis experience, like in a nutshell.
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  And I know people think, or I know you do specifically, you
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  think I'm joking when I say this.
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  Jameis Winston is my favorite player to watch in the NFLI
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  think he is. The way he motivates his team,
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  the things he says. Did you see him in his first
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  snow game? He was like a child.
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  He was so excited to be there. But more than that, it's the
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  frenetic pace at which he plays. Like Cleveland is no longer
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  Deshaun Watson doing like 4 yard outs and like dumping the ball
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  down the field. This is Jameis Winston slinging
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  a pill for 60 minutes and we don't know what's going to
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  happen. And I got to tell you, Eric, it
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  is so much fun to watch. Who would have thought a three
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  and eight Browns team would be enjoyable on Monday night?
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  I bet you didn't think they would be.
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  But my God, was that a fun game to watch.
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  And I, I told you before, I also really like Bo Nicks in Denver.
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  I think he is just, I don't know, he's my rookie of the
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  year. I know a lot of people have the
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  Commandos quarterback. The commanders.
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  The commander. The commandos, yeah, look.
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  Bonex has been incredible. I mean real, but but the thing
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  about James, did you see what he said after the game?
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  No, I. Missed.
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  I was, he said, he said the postgame press conference.
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  I want to get the exact quote 'cause it was so good.
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  Also, by the way, we can talk about this in a second, too.
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  Are the Chiefs good? Like, oh, for God's winning?
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  All these close guys, I know they're good, they keep winning.
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  Like everyone says, it's, you know, you kind of revert to the
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  mean with close games, but I think when your quarterback and
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  your coach are that good that you it, it's just a skill like
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  the I, I am not going to count them out.
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  I know it's out every week but. You don't count on super chiefs.
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  They're still the Super Bowl favorite in my book.
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  I. Don't.
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  It's like betting against Tom Brady.
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  You just don't do it. No, they find.
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  Why would? You do that.
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  They have the best quarterback in football still.
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  I don't know. I'm sorry, man.
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  It was just Jameis Winston, 497 yards.
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  Here's here's 4. Touchdowns. 3 picks.
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  He said on his interceptions. I'm just praying for the Lord to
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  deliver me from pick sixes. Dude, I don't know how you could
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  not love Jameis Winston. I'm serious, like, do you?
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  Were you not entertained? He's, he's very entertaining.
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  I'd love to have him as my backup because if in the NFL, if
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  your backup is in, most likely that means the season's lost
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  anyway. So you might as well have fun
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  with it. And no one is going to make it
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  more entertaining on the field and off than Jameis.
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  So I. Know who loves Jameis Jerry Judy
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  9 receptions for 235 yards, Elijah Moore 8 for 111 and Joku
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  9 receptions. Dude it it they lost 4132.
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  It wasn't even really that close of a game, but it was extremely
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  entertaining. Yeah, it was.