Latest / Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation / PGA DFS | Wyndham Championship | August 7, 2024 | DraftKings DFS Picks, Plays and Process
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Yeah, all systems going clear the lifting. What's up everyone?
- 0:37Speaker 1: Tyler Tambaline here aka to Tag and Tambo back for
- 0:40Speaker 1: another edition of the Wednesday PGA DFS Show. Here on
- 0:43Speaker 1: the ship at Nation YouTube station. My guy Hoopster here
- 0:46Speaker 1: with me as always, gonna break down the Windham Championship.
- 0:49Speaker 1: We're gonna get to it. There's a lot of weather
- 0:50Speaker 1: that people want to talk about. I saw some good
- 0:52Speaker 1: comments in the chat. We're gonna try and find the edge,
- 0:54Speaker 1: talk some game theory, go through with what we do know.
- 0:57Speaker 1: But Hoopster, bring you in man. We got a lot
- 0:59Speaker 1: going on over at the Nation too right now that
- 1:00Speaker 1: we're going to talk about shortly as well. What's going on,
- 1:02Speaker 1: my friend, how you doing?
- 1:03Speaker 2: Yeah? Interesting week obviously last week of the regular season.
- 1:06Speaker 2: Then we roll into the playoffs, so the last full
- 1:08Speaker 2: field event for us to play DFS wise, and then
- 1:12Speaker 2: it gets down to a bunch of no cut events
- 1:13Speaker 2: and then it's like what the last week's only like
- 1:15Speaker 2: thirty dudes, which is pretty difficult to find an advantage.
- 1:19Speaker 2: So this is the last week full field and of
- 1:22Speaker 2: course probably the worst week potentially for weather. I know
- 1:25Speaker 2: a lot of people are talking about it in the chat,
- 1:27Speaker 2: But it looks like a legitimate chance for washouts on
- 1:30Speaker 2: Thursday and Friday. I mean it looks like potentially then
- 1:33Speaker 2: get out there Friday afternoon, but not looking good with
- 1:37Speaker 2: the tropical storm rolling through, so kind of have to
- 1:39Speaker 2: wait and see. The one thing I will say is
- 1:42Speaker 2: the PGA Tour has done such a good job managing
- 1:44Speaker 2: the weather this year. I mean, I'd be shocked if
- 1:46Speaker 2: they didn't fuck it up.
- 1:47Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it was Luke had it. Shout out
- 1:51Speaker 1: to Luke. He had it in the chat that I
- 1:52Speaker 1: over at our discord saying like, you know, what's gonna happen.
- 1:55Speaker 1: They're not gonna say shit, it's gonna be well, we
- 1:58Speaker 1: got to delay it till this time. We all know
- 2:00Speaker 1: there's no golf for.
- 2:02Speaker 2: Forty eight hours of just gonna push it back an
- 2:04Speaker 2: hour at a time. We'll give you an update at
- 2:06Speaker 2: ten am Eastern. We'll give you our next update at
- 2:08Speaker 2: eleven a Eastern. Just roll it all the way through
- 2:10Speaker 2: to us. That's a good morning.
- 2:13Speaker 1: It's crazy. Either way, we're gonna get to it. I mean,
- 2:14Speaker 1: it's just a It goes with the theme of the
- 2:17Speaker 1: next three weeks being these you know, small field kind
- 2:19Speaker 1: of gotta just let the weekend happen and to get
- 2:21Speaker 1: to the golf this week, and we may have to
- 2:23Speaker 1: wait till the weekend to get the golf. So it'll
- 2:25Speaker 1: go with that. Shout out the razor sharp first in
- 2:27Speaker 1: hours ago, Ben Jizzy a little closer to time Notes
- 2:31Speaker 1: Sites Notes again wins a lot. Our guy new Ones
- 2:33Speaker 1: who had a big giveaway win last week. Shout out
- 2:35Speaker 1: to him. But everyone joining us, we appreciate it. Rin
- 2:38Speaker 1: right away in here with the EVR plug so we
- 2:40Speaker 1: see that one. Everyone knows what he's talking about already,
- 2:43Speaker 1: Scooter McGavin, I like this comment. Said so much ad advariance.
- 2:46Speaker 1: Let's try and find a way to take advantage. We'll
- 2:47Speaker 1: talk some of that in a second. I'm gonna pull
- 2:49Speaker 1: up the weather and go through all of it when
- 2:50Speaker 1: we do hop into it. The AMPM wave conversations already
- 2:54Speaker 1: coming up. My guy Brian says, I love pjdfs, but
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- 3:05Speaker 1: you don't have the plays that's the thing, and then
- 3:08Speaker 1: Nick always says the jokes. Anyone hear anything about weather
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- 8:15Speaker 1: Who anything else you want to add on that before
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- 10:11Speaker 1: out Roster Construction Live Finals. I was talking to my
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- 10:48Speaker 1: let's talk Windham hoop. Let's get into this weather because
- 10:51Speaker 1: it's not going to be a cop out for us.
- 10:53Speaker 1: I know other shows are looking at just say, oh
- 10:54Speaker 1: the weather this and that, like, but at the end
- 10:56Speaker 1: of the day, you got to look what's in front
- 10:57Speaker 1: of you. This is just the basic forecast. I'm bringing
- 10:59Speaker 1: us up for two seconds to show you that Saturday
- 11:03Speaker 1: looks pretty clear. Now it's gonna be water logged because
- 11:06Speaker 1: of what you see here. But if you just go
- 11:07Speaker 1: quickly to the super forecast and scroll down Wednesday rain
- 11:13Speaker 1: a little bit leading up, but look at Thursday, right,
- 11:15Speaker 1: this is really what we're focused on here. Just an
- 11:17Speaker 1: absolute ton of rain coming down on Thursday, high winds,
- 11:21Speaker 1: crazy gusts, all of that, and then on Friday the
- 11:24Speaker 1: rain it's gonna be water logged and there is still
- 11:26Speaker 1: some rain and then potentially more rain later on. So
- 11:29Speaker 1: what's your first take on this or how are you
- 11:31Speaker 1: sort of treating this hoop just before we get into
- 11:33Speaker 1: breaking everything else down, because the weather is the topic
- 11:35Speaker 1: of discussion.
- 11:35Speaker 2: But yeah, I joked in the opening saying, oh, I
- 11:38Speaker 2: feel comfortable because the PJA is handed handled the weather
- 11:41Speaker 2: situation so well this season, But that was a joke.
- 11:43Speaker 2: They've been a disaster with it. So, I mean, it
- 11:45Speaker 2: is so hard to pinpoint what the hell they're going
- 11:47Speaker 2: to do this this week, you know, based on this report.
- 11:50Speaker 2: And it's not like it's just rain, it's rain, it's wind,
- 11:53Speaker 2: it's a lot of rain, uh, you know, tropical storm
- 11:56Speaker 2: essentially rolling through. So if I told you I could
- 12:00Speaker 2: predict what the PGA Tour is gonna do, I'd be
- 12:02Speaker 2: lying because they probably still at this point have no
- 12:05Speaker 2: idea what they're gonna do, and wouldn't be surprised if
- 12:08Speaker 2: we get hour by hour updates all the way all
- 12:10Speaker 2: the way through without them just saying all right, we're
- 12:12Speaker 2: gonna start at this point. So it's very hard for
- 12:14Speaker 2: DFS purposes to pinpoint what is going to happen, And
- 12:19Speaker 2: for me, I am just gonna build my teeth. I
- 12:21Speaker 2: know some people are saying, you know, maybe we go
- 12:23Speaker 2: AM PM because we think the AM guys aren't gonna
- 12:26Speaker 2: get out there until Friday afternoon when the course is
- 12:29Speaker 2: gonna be very soft. I get that, but of course,
- 12:32Speaker 2: with this much rain, i'd imagine the course is gonna
- 12:34Speaker 2: be very very soft all week and long, and they're
- 12:37Speaker 2: gonna have lift clean in place in place all week
- 12:41Speaker 2: and long as well. So just very hard to pinpoint.
- 12:44Speaker 2: If you are playing this week, I think you just
- 12:46Speaker 2: just play your guys and go maybe maybe again. I
- 12:48Speaker 2: always say this, and it's not a cop up any means,
- 12:50Speaker 2: but it's like, if you typically do wave stacks, continue
- 12:55Speaker 2: to do waste stacks, maybe one of these sides finds
- 12:57Speaker 2: an advantage. But I'd be lying to you if I
- 13:00Speaker 2: told you I knew which side it was going to
- 13:02Speaker 2: be I'm just playing playing it straight up, playing my guys,
- 13:04Speaker 2: and you know, we'll see what happens. But you know,
- 13:07Speaker 2: to try to predict for what the PGA Tour is
- 13:08Speaker 2: going to do in these weather situations, you know, it
- 13:12Speaker 2: doesn't make too much sense to me because they have
- 13:14Speaker 2: fucked it up all season long.
- 13:16Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna talk about a couple things quick on
- 13:18Speaker 1: and then we'll move on. But just to say it,
- 13:19Speaker 1: like somebody talked about one thing I always gott to
- 13:22Speaker 1: bring up, So a couple of things I know about
- 13:23Speaker 1: this event. Many others do as well, but just to
- 13:25Speaker 1: bring it up, like, is this the time to focus
- 13:26Speaker 1: on some of the peeps that need to get into
- 13:28Speaker 1: the FedEx? Like the playoffs are a thing. You can
- 13:30Speaker 1: go look up the standings on the site. One of
- 13:32Speaker 1: the things I know and remember from playing dfs for
- 13:34Speaker 1: many years is there's a reason all these guys are
- 13:36Speaker 1: on the outside and they almost never get in. It's
- 13:38Speaker 1: you know, it's very minimal a number of these guys
- 13:41Speaker 1: get in. So if you're trying to stack up your lineups,
- 13:43Speaker 1: it becomes more of you know, picking and choosing your spots.
- 13:45Speaker 1: And if that's really the reason, well how are they
- 13:47Speaker 1: just all of a sudden going to become good this
- 13:49Speaker 1: week when the motivations on life. It's just a cop out,
- 13:52Speaker 1: it's a it's a content thing. It's awesome to know,
- 13:55Speaker 1: it's good to note. But there's gonna be people that
- 13:58Speaker 1: someone will say, yeah, they were on the line, they
- 14:01Speaker 1: did what they needed to do, and they fought their
- 14:02Speaker 1: way in. But on the same flip of the coin,
- 14:05Speaker 1: there's going to be three or four guys that had
- 14:06Speaker 1: the same thing in front of them that didn't get in.
- 14:09Speaker 1: I've had these countin.
- 14:11Speaker 2: That's a very good point, very good point.
- 14:13Speaker 1: Right, So it's definitely that I will say that for sure.
- 14:15Speaker 1: I'll say another thing though, in the past at this event,
- 14:18Speaker 1: there's almost always been rain leading into it. Nothing like this.
- 14:21Speaker 1: I forget who put it out there. I thought it
- 14:23Speaker 1: was pretty funny because Dad joke but said to you know,
- 14:25Speaker 1: the hurricane Debbie or whatever said, it's a real DeBie
- 14:28Speaker 1: downer this weekend, and it's sort of part of it.
- 14:30Speaker 1: I laugh for a second. But just to note it,
- 14:32Speaker 1: there's often been rain leading into this event, just from
- 14:35Speaker 1: the area that it's in and all that sort of stuff.
- 14:37Speaker 1: So it was often lift clean in place, and AMPM
- 14:40Speaker 1: actually came out ahead quite a few times. There was
- 14:42Speaker 1: one year I think nine of the top ten finished
- 14:45Speaker 1: out of the AMPM. Because of that, they come out
- 14:47Speaker 1: with the lift, clean place, they get their opportunities, they
- 14:50Speaker 1: go low early, and that sets themselves up for a
- 14:52Speaker 1: pretty good Friday. Because in a real world, I know
- 14:55Speaker 1: we're talking about golf, maybe not even starting till Friday
- 14:57Speaker 1: or Saturday here, but just to note where it it's
- 15:00Speaker 1: not like this course gets super hard where you know,
- 15:02Speaker 1: when you used to see courses like Tory Pines or
- 15:05Speaker 1: something where you're playing a hard course one day and
- 15:07Speaker 1: an easier course than next, that good start doesn't always
- 15:10Speaker 1: carry over because now you got to go play a
- 15:12Speaker 1: tough course on Friday, or vice versa. Everyone works differently,
- 15:15Speaker 1: but on a course like this, that really good round
- 15:18Speaker 1: can be sort of a perfect spot for you. So
- 15:21Speaker 1: I will note that. But I think it's also reminds
- 15:23Speaker 1: me of the players that we all got wrong with,
- 15:26Speaker 1: like ander Ban Lahiri down the stretch and all those
- 15:28Speaker 1: guys and Cam Smith or whatever getting the job done.
- 15:31Speaker 1: That was one where we went for a wave stack,
- 15:34Speaker 1: didn't get it right, and it ended up being the
- 15:35Speaker 1: other one. I'd be fine going with both because there
- 15:38Speaker 1: is a chance Friday afternoon is better and your am
- 15:41Speaker 1: guys that get out there, or do get out there
- 15:43Speaker 1: in this case let's just use this example end up
- 15:45Speaker 1: going off and then everyone on Saturday still gets the same.
- 15:48Speaker 1: But this could be one of the best spots out
- 15:49Speaker 1: of the gate. Possibly The alternatives iss if you flip
- 15:52Speaker 1: it is what if they don't get out there till
- 15:55Speaker 1: or what if the afternoon is a little bit rougher
- 15:57Speaker 1: as this forecast shakes out, they end up getting put
- 16:00Speaker 1: out in a little bit of the worst stuff because
- 16:02Speaker 1: PGA is trying to force it and get them out
- 16:04Speaker 1: there because they got to get through it over the weekend.
- 16:06Speaker 1: It's an important event still, and then the guys on
- 16:08Speaker 1: Saturday morning, who are the end up being the PM guys,
- 16:11Speaker 1: get the real good conditions with the cleanup crews and
- 16:14Speaker 1: all that stuff. That sort of sets them up for
- 16:16Speaker 1: a little bit better Saturday. So if you are going
- 16:18Speaker 1: to stack waves, it is a spot I would recommend
- 16:21Speaker 1: stacking both, just to make sure you're covering your angles
- 16:23Speaker 1: because there is an opportunity with That's why I started
- 16:26Speaker 1: with Saturday looking so good where it does end up
- 16:29Speaker 1: better for those that get out there on Saturday, So
- 16:31Speaker 1: if they get out there on Friday, it could be
- 16:33Speaker 1: an afternoon that's not as strong. So anything else you
- 16:36Speaker 1: do you want to add on the weather before we
- 16:37Speaker 1: get into.
- 16:37Speaker 2: This, No, I think very strong points are for sure.
- 16:40Speaker 2: And then yeah, with the playoff stuff, I fully agree
- 16:43Speaker 2: with you. I mean, that's the talking points where people
- 16:46Speaker 2: will claim victory on both sides and it's like that
- 16:48Speaker 2: shit's super annoying.
- 16:51Speaker 1: Yeah, So I'm gonna bring this up as we go
- 16:52Speaker 1: through today just so people can see it. It's the
- 16:54Speaker 1: new optimizer. It's our optimizer ship Demizer, the optimizer design
- 16:57Speaker 1: to help you ship. There is features and whatnot built
- 16:59Speaker 1: in that I'll show throughout the show. But we'll use
- 17:01Speaker 1: this to go through our tiersuit because we're starting here.
- 17:04Speaker 1: One quick note and we are aiming to have it
- 17:07Speaker 1: by end of day, if not tomorrow, first thing, and
- 17:10Speaker 1: it will be better for showdown and for over the
- 17:12Speaker 1: stretch and get you guys set out for success. But
- 17:14Speaker 1: the number one ask was to get tea times on here,
- 17:18Speaker 1: and we are going to have the round one tea time,
- 17:20Speaker 1: so that if you want to sort it by the
- 17:22Speaker 1: starting tea time and get your am guys. You can
- 17:24Speaker 1: ex out all those that aren't on it. You can
- 17:26Speaker 1: default everyone to zero and just turn on the guy's
- 17:29Speaker 1: minimum exposure for the ones you do want to play
- 17:32Speaker 1: from the morning wave. Once you sort it, it's going
- 17:34Speaker 1: to end up in here somewhere where you'll have the
- 17:36Speaker 1: actual tea times right on our optimizers, So just note
- 17:39Speaker 1: that as well. But sungjm down to Sea Wu Kim.
- 17:43Speaker 1: We got four guys in this ten k range. Billy
- 17:46Speaker 1: Horschell obviously hurt some feelings last time out. He was
- 17:48Speaker 1: the late WD after the run at the Open he
- 17:52Speaker 1: made and then had to go there till Tuesday and
- 17:55Speaker 1: then withdraw after Locke. But Sungjay my guy down to
- 17:58Speaker 1: Sea Woo hoop. What are you doing up in this
- 18:00Speaker 1: ten k and above range?
- 18:01Speaker 2: Yeah? You know, the first thing that stands out is
- 18:05Speaker 2: cheap price tags, Like the top price is ten to seven.
- 18:08Speaker 2: It's gonna be easy to play multiple probably of these guys.
- 18:11Speaker 2: And you know, say, if you go Sung j and
- 18:14Speaker 2: see Wu, you still have seventy three hundred. So again,
- 18:17Speaker 2: I think it's another week where we see inflated ownership
- 18:19Speaker 2: at the top because of how easy it is to
- 18:21Speaker 2: play multiple guys up here. That's the one takeaway in
- 18:24Speaker 2: terms of pricing, roster construction, game theory. You are going
- 18:27Speaker 2: to see, you know, builds that start with two ten
- 18:31Speaker 2: K guys. For me, I like Sung Jay, I like
- 18:34Speaker 2: Lowry way more than Horsell and Kim. I'll probably just
- 18:37Speaker 2: fade Horsell again. I got talked into him last time.
- 18:40Speaker 2: I don't think I'm getting talked into him this time.
- 18:42Speaker 2: If Horchel beats me at ten to two, I'll take
- 18:45Speaker 2: my medicine and move on to the playoffs. See Wu
- 18:48Speaker 2: I have more interest in, but I really don't know
- 18:50Speaker 2: how much I'll get a him. But I'm fine playing
- 18:53Speaker 2: some of him. He's he's got good course history here.
- 18:56Speaker 2: But I really really prefer Sung j and Lowry. I
- 18:59Speaker 2: guess you know, horseal a fade for me. If I
- 19:02Speaker 2: have to take less Sea Wu Kim to get more
- 19:05Speaker 2: Lowry and Him, I'm going to go that route. So
- 19:08Speaker 2: strong preference to those two at the top, Sung Jay
- 19:11Speaker 2: and and Lowry. No Horsell, and then moderate interest in
- 19:15Speaker 2: see Wu up here. But again in terms of roster construction,
- 19:17Speaker 2: which you know, we like to have those conversations, not
- 19:19Speaker 2: just the picks and plays it's easy to play multiple
- 19:22Speaker 2: of these guys. Whenever it's easy to play multiple, I
- 19:24Speaker 2: think we see inflated ownership. People want to fill out
- 19:27Speaker 2: all the salary that they have. So if they, you know,
- 19:30Speaker 2: play Sung Jay and then put in a few values
- 19:32Speaker 2: and realize they can come back up and get another guy,
- 19:34Speaker 2: they're going to do it. So I should see some
- 19:37Speaker 2: big ownership on these guys up top because of how
- 19:39Speaker 2: easy it is to play multiple in the same lineup.
- 19:42Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'll have it later in the slate plan
- 19:44Speaker 1: broken down, but actually disagree on one point. It's just
- 19:47Speaker 1: as easy as it is to do math is math,
- 19:49Speaker 1: as our guy Degenerate seventy five likes to say. And
- 19:51Speaker 1: when you get down to the eight K range, with
- 19:53Speaker 1: Aaron Raye and bozaidenhout getting as much ownership as they
- 19:56Speaker 1: are in that eight K range, it's just unfortunately you
- 19:59Speaker 1: won't see as many double stud lineups as you may
- 20:02Speaker 1: think because you can't play two studs and the two
- 20:04Speaker 1: eight K guys comfortably. So it's like that's kind of
- 20:07Speaker 1: a part where there will be tons of double stud lineups.
- 20:09Speaker 1: I'm not saying there won't, but I'm saying I think
- 20:11Speaker 1: more people go Sung Jay harmon or Sung Jay with
- 20:15Speaker 1: two of those eight K guys or whatever, where it
- 20:17Speaker 1: still disperses it a little bit and you can kind
- 20:20Speaker 1: of do what you want up here. But I agree
- 20:21Speaker 1: with you on the guys you're mentioning. I think, you know,
- 20:23Speaker 1: starting something like this. I know both these guys. If
- 20:25Speaker 1: you are playing some am lineups, both these guys start
- 20:28Speaker 1: to oh, yeah, we didn't get to tell we haven't
- 20:30Speaker 1: talked since that one that was a bad scene where a.
- 20:33Speaker 2: Guy I gotta pay off.
- 20:34Speaker 1: Fuck. Yeah, that's right.
- 20:35Speaker 2: I gotta, I gotta figure this out. I'm gonna get it.
- 20:37Speaker 2: I gotta. I'm gonna do it on Uh, gotta do
- 20:39Speaker 2: it on Twitter because I can't do it live on
- 20:41Speaker 2: the show here because I don't wanna, you know, get
- 20:43Speaker 2: to get make a mess of my office. So I'm
- 20:45Speaker 2: gonna have to get a Twitter video out. Yeah that's
- 20:47Speaker 2: a good point.
- 20:48Speaker 1: The shoey we need to you know, it's.
- 20:50Speaker 2: Gonna it's common. It's gonna it's gonna happen. Yeah, it's
- 20:52Speaker 2: gonna it's gonna be outdoors. Maybe after I cut the grass.
- 20:54Speaker 2: I actually cut the grass this morning, so I am
- 20:57Speaker 2: grilling this evening, so maybe maybe today's the day we'll
- 21:00Speaker 2: see but'.
- 21:01Speaker 1: That'd be nice. Thanks shout out to Andrew for keeping
- 21:03Speaker 1: you honestly, I love that. But that was a tough scene.
- 21:08Speaker 1: We got some good, some memes out of it. We
- 21:09Speaker 1: got all kinds. Yeah.
- 21:11Speaker 2: I think once I started thinking through it, I was like, man,
- 21:13Speaker 2: I'm not saying like we're moving ownership and big numbers,
- 21:17Speaker 2: but once, you know, once I that tweet kind of
- 21:20Speaker 2: picked up steam, I was like, yeah, I'm fuck no
- 21:22Speaker 2: matter what there is, I think you moved.
- 21:24Speaker 1: It the other way. I know, hell, hell, you made
- 21:28Speaker 1: it seem like it was such a bad play at
- 21:30Speaker 1: that ownership because he did suck.
- 21:33Speaker 2: He did end up sucking too, which is the funny
- 21:36Speaker 2: part about it that he missed the cut.
- 21:37Speaker 1: I can't remember it remember now, but I remember the
- 21:40Speaker 1: number was just really bad and people, you know, Rinn
- 21:42Speaker 1: says that people never forget memes. That that's right. This
- 21:45Speaker 1: is the feature too. But you mentioned like, but it's
- 21:47Speaker 1: pretty cool you put those two guys in. Obviously it's
- 21:49Speaker 1: got it all right here for you. So if we
- 21:51Speaker 1: call it the handbuild feature, because sometimes people just want
- 21:53Speaker 1: to build one lineup or see sort of what dictates
- 21:56Speaker 1: what and if you go this way, you can see,
- 21:58Speaker 1: like you said, seventy three twenty five or now, you
- 22:00Speaker 1: can start to see how construction is going to go
- 22:03Speaker 1: and you can just turn that off when you don't
- 22:05Speaker 1: want it there and play around with it from there.
- 22:06Speaker 1: But I tend to agree with you. I think if
- 22:08Speaker 1: they're not doing double stud and if they're not doing
- 22:11Speaker 1: the ten K with two, I guess I'll do the
- 22:13Speaker 1: cheat build quick just before we do the nine K range,
- 22:15Speaker 1: just to show you an example with like Rye Bez,
- 22:19Speaker 1: you still have the same seventy three hundred left, you
- 22:21Speaker 1: know what I mean. So that's where I'm thinking, just
- 22:23Speaker 1: based on their ownership. So they might end up closer
- 22:26Speaker 1: than I think on the combos of those the dual
- 22:29Speaker 1: stud versus the stud with two eight ks. But they'll
- 22:33Speaker 1: be pretty common both ways, I think. But just want
- 22:35Speaker 1: to bring that up before we get in that.
- 22:36Speaker 2: And I don't think that's gonna be like the most
- 22:38Speaker 2: common build. I guess my point more so to do
- 22:41Speaker 2: the fact that it's easy to do, and that is
- 22:44Speaker 2: going to make the ownership on those guys higher than
- 22:46Speaker 2: it typically would be if these guys were all in
- 22:48Speaker 2: the eleven K range and you're looking at much lower ownership.
- 22:51Speaker 2: The fact that it starts at ten to seven and
- 22:53Speaker 2: you can play multiple of the guys in lineup is
- 22:55Speaker 2: going to mean that you know, Sung J, Lowry their ownership.
- 23:00Speaker 2: It's gonna come up for that reason because it's easy
- 23:01Speaker 2: to do it. No, just I mean, it's something I'm
- 23:03Speaker 2: very passionate about, and you know I do only cut
- 23:06Speaker 2: the grass once a week. But yeah, I guess if
- 23:09Speaker 2: you did watch these shows, you would think it possibly
- 23:11Speaker 2: meant something else, because we do. We do hit on
- 23:14Speaker 2: it quite a bit.
- 23:15Speaker 1: Yeah, very played out at this point, but I agree
- 23:17Speaker 1: we probably get I think we've already got three or
- 23:20Speaker 1: four on the in the comment section, so we'll get
- 23:22Speaker 1: to Aaron Rye Moore in a second. But hoop, I
- 23:24Speaker 1: think in the nine k it looks more like this,
- 23:26Speaker 1: I will say, just that early look because of what
- 23:28Speaker 1: you brought up with those guys up top, Sung J, Lowry,
- 23:31Speaker 1: Sea Wu for sure at least getting some ownership. Maybe
- 23:33Speaker 1: Billy Horseell scared some people away, but even he still
- 23:36Speaker 1: gets some I bet you. Just because the way it
- 23:38Speaker 1: sets up, it does look like Cam Young Speeth, maybe
- 23:43Speaker 1: Min Wu like those three sort of look like guys
- 23:45Speaker 1: that are going overlooked in the nine case. So is
- 23:46Speaker 1: there any thoughts on just using these nine K guys
- 23:49Speaker 1: and skipping the tens or do you think it's just
- 23:51Speaker 1: gonna be common just to see Sung Jay Harmon starts
- 23:54Speaker 1: and stuff like that. What are you seeing here in
- 23:56Speaker 1: this range?
- 23:57Speaker 2: Yeah? I think you know more some question marks. I
- 24:00Speaker 2: think Min Wu at nine nine K is gonna be
- 24:02Speaker 2: a question mark for a lot of people, something that
- 24:04Speaker 2: a lot will tend to avoid. At the miscut at
- 24:07Speaker 2: the Open Championship, seven seventy third at the Genesis T
- 24:13Speaker 2: twenty two at the Olympics. He's the name people won't
- 24:16Speaker 2: love speak a lot of question marks. I mean I
- 24:19Speaker 2: just I definitely not clicking that name. And then Cam
- 24:22Speaker 2: Young is one that I do have interested in just
- 24:24Speaker 2: because I don't know, we've we've seen him just get
- 24:26Speaker 2: absolutely scorching hot with these you know, super low rounds,
- 24:29Speaker 2: and you know he's kind of turning the corner a
- 24:31Speaker 2: little bit. Ninth at the Travelers, six at the Rock
- 24:34Speaker 2: and Mortgage and then thirty first at the Open Championship,
- 24:37Speaker 2: So I don't mind him. I think at ninety seven
- 24:40Speaker 2: people will look to avoid it. But the three that
- 24:42Speaker 2: I like the most, Harmon I'm going to continue to
- 24:46Speaker 2: play Davis Thompson and then but Tia, I think is
- 24:48Speaker 2: just he has the game that can kind of be
- 24:52Speaker 2: successful on any sort of course. I know this one
- 24:54Speaker 2: might not necessarily set up for him all that well,
- 24:57Speaker 2: but he's a guy that I especially in these weaker
- 24:59Speaker 2: field events, like I just want to be on them.
- 25:01Speaker 2: I think his overall talent is better than a lot
- 25:03Speaker 2: of these guys. So those are definitely my favorite Harmon
- 25:05Speaker 2: Thompson and Patilla right there at ninety three, ninety two,
- 25:08Speaker 2: ninety one.
- 25:10Speaker 1: Yeah, I like this play here too. Joshua brings up
- 25:12Speaker 1: like pick your guys down low and pivot up top.
- 25:13Speaker 1: It's kind of where I lean this week. It's tough
- 25:16Speaker 1: to say who it's going to be from these ones
- 25:17Speaker 1: up here, but I think there's just a lot of
- 25:18Speaker 1: talent that could just pop up at any given moment.
- 25:21Speaker 1: You mentioned a couple of them, and I just put
- 25:22Speaker 1: this build up. We were doing this during the NFL
- 25:24Speaker 1: shows last season with our Optimizer partnership. Nice to have
- 25:27Speaker 1: our own just to be able to go through this now,
- 25:28Speaker 1: but just to show it like you just bet on
- 25:30Speaker 1: a couple talented guys and Cam Young and Batia, and
- 25:33Speaker 1: then you throw in a popular guy like Ry. I'm
- 25:35Speaker 1: just throwing him in because I know it'll be popular. Here.
- 25:38Speaker 1: You actually have seventy five hundred ish remaining right, almost
- 25:41Speaker 1: seventy five hundred. You can get away from that sort
- 25:44Speaker 1: of mid sevens rain. You can go high high low.
- 25:46Speaker 1: You can go in eight and two lows and skip
- 25:48Speaker 1: that range. Like, you can do a lot of different
- 25:50Speaker 1: things here where now you don't even get into the
- 25:53Speaker 1: seven k range, but you have four golfers where others
- 25:56Speaker 1: are trying to make it work in that So I
- 25:57Speaker 1: think from a roster construction perspective, who some of the
- 26:00Speaker 1: stuff can be pretty interesting if you can trust and
- 26:03Speaker 1: just bet on talent as opposed to all the other
- 26:05Speaker 1: factors people are gonna throw your way. When it comes
- 26:07Speaker 1: to what you're hearing around the rest of the industry.
- 26:09Speaker 2: Yeah, most people will start with someone ten care above
- 26:13Speaker 2: for sure. And you know, making that one little pivot
- 26:16Speaker 2: makes you immediately different. And then by making that pivot
- 26:19Speaker 2: you you can be less focused on ownership with the
- 26:23Speaker 2: other guys. You can just play the guys that might
- 26:25Speaker 2: be a little more more popular in that sort of scenario.
- 26:28Speaker 1: Yeah, and I want to see too, because we're gonna
- 26:30Speaker 1: get there in a minute anyway. But like right now
- 26:32Speaker 1: between you know, I guess it's part of the math
- 26:34Speaker 1: is math conversation. But it doesn't seem like you know,
- 26:37Speaker 1: English Vegas Post and Mitchell Evr, like some of these
- 26:41Speaker 1: guys don't seem like they can get too popular. And
- 26:44Speaker 1: if you look at this setup, with seventy eight hundred left,
- 26:46Speaker 1: you can play Bobby Mack two big wins this season,
- 26:50Speaker 1: Vegas coming off a win, you still have seventy four
- 26:53Speaker 1: to fifty. That's still above the averaging. Again, you're just
- 26:55Speaker 1: putting some talent into your build. So I can see
- 26:58Speaker 1: it where these types of bild just go completely overlooked.
- 27:01Speaker 1: And if there is carnage or however you're setting up
- 27:03Speaker 1: your builds, this would be a hot start versus the
- 27:06Speaker 1: way most are gonna start. I think Andrew just mentioned it.
- 27:08Speaker 1: If you got like Sung j Rye with seventy six hundred,
- 27:11Speaker 1: that's gonna be way more common than those three guys
- 27:14Speaker 1: we just had plugged in with pretty much the same
- 27:15Speaker 1: number left on the table. So I don't know I
- 27:18Speaker 1: just see some different builds here that you could do,
- 27:19Speaker 1: and then if you are gonna factor in weather, t time,
- 27:22Speaker 1: stuff like that, then you can sort of put the
- 27:24Speaker 1: puzzle pieces together that way too, if that's part of
- 27:26Speaker 1: your process. So other talent, you know, Luke Clanton dropped
- 27:30Speaker 1: down from ninety one hundred, made fun of that a
- 27:32Speaker 1: couple weeks ago there. So there's Luke Clanton at eighty six.
- 27:35Speaker 1: Keegan Bradley eighty five. He's now the President's Cup co
- 27:38Speaker 1: captain as well, so he's getting into the mix too.
- 27:41Speaker 1: D Tree eighty four hundred. Like there is some guys
- 27:44Speaker 1: in here, Mad McNeely. I just think if people go
- 27:47Speaker 1: to a K guys, if they go to a K
- 27:49Speaker 1: because like you said, if they end up going up
- 27:51Speaker 1: top to Sung J and Lowry, let's say you're not
- 27:54Speaker 1: really getting EIGHTK guys in there, Like if you put
- 27:56Speaker 1: those guys and Rye you can don't get me wrong,
- 27:59Speaker 1: I'm just saying you're probably not getting as many of
- 28:01Speaker 1: these builds. This would be a little bit different than
- 28:04Speaker 1: what most are doing with their two ten K builds.
- 28:06Speaker 1: But if you go down here, it's like if they're
- 28:10Speaker 1: going two eight K guys, it's probably Ryan Bez or
- 28:12Speaker 1: one or less. So if you can get to three
- 28:15Speaker 1: eight K guys here you feel comfortable with, even if
- 28:18Speaker 1: it is in the lower end. You have eighty five
- 28:20Speaker 1: hundred on average left with I just put in Nikolai
- 28:25Speaker 1: McIntyre and McNeely and let me go back up for
- 28:28Speaker 1: a second to Sung Jay. I still have seventy three
- 28:31Speaker 1: fifty left. And now remember in the beginning when we
- 28:34Speaker 1: showed you when the average was seventy three twenty five,
- 28:36Speaker 1: you had to fill out four spots with two studs.
- 28:40Speaker 1: This has four golfers that are eight K and above
- 28:43Speaker 1: and you only need to fill out two spots with
- 28:45Speaker 1: the same average. So while you're landing in the same zone,
- 28:47Speaker 1: you're landing there with different build altogether by having three
- 28:51Speaker 1: eight K guys. So if you can get behind that
- 28:53Speaker 1: or find something you like there, I'd have no problem
- 28:55Speaker 1: with that as well anything else you want to add
- 28:56Speaker 1: on the eight K range troupe. If not, we could
- 28:58Speaker 1: take it into the upper evans. Here we've got more
- 29:01Speaker 1: golfers than we've seen in some of these past weeks.
- 29:04Speaker 1: Kitty Yama down to Dunlap, Taylor Moore, McCarthy and Yeager.
- 29:08Speaker 2: Yeah, that range that you kind of hit on, like
- 29:10Speaker 2: the English Vegas Kittyama Post and Mitchell. Yeah, that ranges
- 29:14Speaker 2: go go a little overlooked just because there are popular
- 29:16Speaker 2: guys above them. Aaron Ryle, like we talked about, talked
- 29:20Speaker 2: about Seabells. I think he gets some ownership. McIntyre's had
- 29:24Speaker 2: the Wins, ho Guard McNeely, all playable guys, and you
- 29:28Speaker 2: come down to this range is kind of like a
- 29:29Speaker 2: little bit of a deadman range, And I'd be lying,
- 29:31Speaker 2: like I don't love I'd be lying if I said
- 29:34Speaker 2: I liked many of these guys. I do like Post
- 29:36Speaker 2: and I'll take a chance on posting on a course
- 29:39Speaker 2: where you have to find faaraways. I mean, he has
- 29:40Speaker 2: not been great, don't get me wrong, but I will
- 29:43Speaker 2: give him a look at that seventy nine hundred dollars
- 29:46Speaker 2: price tag. Keith Mitchell at seventy eight has not been
- 29:49Speaker 2: good off my pass on him, and then I know
- 29:51Speaker 2: Rin's not going to like this, But man, evrs, A
- 29:54Speaker 2: guy just cannot like, I know, everyone has their guys
- 29:57Speaker 2: like that that they love and they have nailed Like
- 29:59Speaker 2: I just cannot figure him out. So like I'm just
- 30:03Speaker 2: I'm staying off of him. So sorry to sorry to
- 30:05Speaker 2: tell you that rin I can't can't do the EVR
- 30:07Speaker 2: stuff anymore. But you start coming down, then you get
- 30:09Speaker 2: these guys that people are gonna want to play. Eric
- 30:11Speaker 2: Cole finally showing signs of life at seventy seven hundred,
- 30:14Speaker 2: He's made at least like five straight cuts, a sixth
- 30:17Speaker 2: at the Rocket Mortgage, seventh at the John Deere, and
- 30:20Speaker 2: then at the Open thirty first, which is solid finish
- 30:23Speaker 2: for him. At the Open, my guy Max Grazerman continues
- 30:26Speaker 2: to play very very solid golf twenty first, thirty first,
- 30:29Speaker 2: twenty six, twenty first, thirteenth, and then second at the
- 30:33Speaker 2: three I'm Open, and I must mention. At the three
- 30:36Speaker 2: AO three IM Open his second place finish, he was
- 30:39Speaker 2: also labeled the most disrespectable price tag in the field
- 30:42Speaker 2: and got the job done for us there. So him
- 30:44Speaker 2: at seventy six Yagger is a name that people like
- 30:47Speaker 2: to play. McCarthy and Kensey Hughes has been playing pretty
- 30:50Speaker 2: good fencing at seventy four, Ben Griffin, Doug and there's
- 30:56Speaker 2: so many guys here that people are gonna want to play.
- 30:58Speaker 2: So that upper seven K lower eight K range is
- 31:00Speaker 2: definitely gonna go overlooked. There's just a ton of playable
- 31:04Speaker 2: dudes here. Victor Perez, Adam Hadwin, Fishburn. I don't mind
- 31:09Speaker 2: Mac Meisner. People love playing him seventy one, Andrew Novak
- 31:13Speaker 2: seventy one hundred, and I'm just gonna go ahead and
- 31:16Speaker 2: label him right now as this week's most disrespectful price
- 31:19Speaker 2: tag in the field. He's been great fourteenth, twenty seventh,
- 31:24Speaker 2: not great at the Genesis, but twenty fourth at the three.
- 31:27Speaker 2: I'm open only seventy one hundred in a pretty weak field,
- 31:30Speaker 2: like sign me up for sure. Novak's definitely most disrespectful
- 31:34Speaker 2: price tag this week, Hubbard. I always like playing in
- 31:37Speaker 2: these weaker field events, Grioh Putnam. There's just so many
- 31:40Speaker 2: guys in this lower seven K range that you can play,
- 31:44Speaker 2: and it's one of those situations I think where we
- 31:46Speaker 2: always talk about, where there's so many playable guys, Ownership
- 31:49Speaker 2: just has to get spread out in this range, and
- 31:50Speaker 2: I think that's what happens, which makes it nice for
- 31:53Speaker 2: roster construction because you really don't need to factor in
- 31:55Speaker 2: ownership all that much because all these guys are gonna
- 31:57Speaker 2: get a little bit and no one's really gonna get
- 31:59Speaker 2: a a ton down here. So very strong range. And
- 32:02Speaker 2: I'm sure there's more playable guys down here as well,
- 32:05Speaker 2: but I think the lower seven is much more popular
- 32:07Speaker 2: than the oppers.
- 32:09Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's forty two guys Jake Knapp Withdrew, I
- 32:12Speaker 1: can't remember he was seven K or sixty nine hundred.
- 32:14Speaker 1: He's out, And so there's forty two guys still in
- 32:16Speaker 1: the seven K range, and I don't see very many
- 32:19Speaker 1: getting to double digits. Maybe two or three of them.
- 32:21Speaker 1: And then if it's three of them, one of them
- 32:24Speaker 1: is probably pretty low, like a ten point one or
- 32:26Speaker 1: something like. It just feels that way from what seeing
- 32:28Speaker 1: early on. And then the other thing was too just
- 32:31Speaker 1: brought up about this like Rinn brought it up actually,
- 32:33Speaker 1: but like a lot of those guys in the lower
- 32:34Speaker 1: eight k's coming over from the Olympics, do you have
- 32:36Speaker 1: any concern on that. I obviously don't factor that stuff
- 32:39Speaker 1: too much. I know it'll just be a great excuse.
- 32:41Speaker 1: Same as we knew Billy Hoe would have no chance
- 32:44Speaker 1: in WD, but we didn't know that Sam Burns would
- 32:46Speaker 1: play just fine and finish T twelve after he blew
- 32:49Speaker 1: up on Sunday at the Open. So it's you never know,
- 32:51Speaker 1: it's just a content cop out. I'll continue to call
- 32:54Speaker 1: it that now it's my new thing. But it's you
- 32:56Speaker 1: could say one thing for one person and completely ignore
- 32:59Speaker 1: it for the other. That's why I'm talking about roster construction,
- 33:02Speaker 1: how to attack the field, how you can actually win
- 33:04Speaker 1: a tournament, versus who your plays are and what you
- 33:07Speaker 1: do with them and all the thing. It's not who
- 33:09Speaker 1: you play, it's who you play them. I've stood by
- 33:10Speaker 1: that forever. It's who cares about the Olympics thing that's
- 33:13Speaker 1: gonna be an excuse if it goes bad for them.
- 33:16Speaker 1: If it goes good, though, that's the whole point. So
- 33:18Speaker 1: it's kind of like the setup. How are you building
- 33:20Speaker 1: your lineups? What are you doing with it that gets
- 33:23Speaker 1: you different from the field? And what field are you in.
- 33:26Speaker 1: That's another thing that people don't talk about enough, like
- 33:27Speaker 1: it matters so much more. If you're in a five
- 33:30Speaker 1: k thunderdome with ten people playing the chalk, absolute play
- 33:34Speaker 1: the best plays, et cetera, versus when you're going up
- 33:37Speaker 1: in a large field against one hundred and thirty seven
- 33:39Speaker 1: thousand people at a major, in a million maker or
- 33:41Speaker 1: something like that. So I don't know anything else you
- 33:43Speaker 1: want to add there, hoop. If not, we can move on.
- 33:45Speaker 1: But I just want to bring that up as well.
- 33:47Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the Olympic stuff. I mean that's like
- 33:49Speaker 2: trying to get in somebody's head and figure out like
- 33:52Speaker 2: where they are mentally. I get like the travel concerns
- 33:55Speaker 2: or whatnot, But you're talking like four days after. Like
- 33:57Speaker 2: I'm assuming after four days they're able to recover. And
- 34:01Speaker 2: this could even be more someone close and chatting. Mean,
- 34:03Speaker 2: if this doesn't start till Friday afternoon or Saturday, they're
- 34:06Speaker 2: getting even more time to consider. So if you're worried
- 34:09Speaker 2: about it for travel purposes, they likely get additional rest
- 34:12Speaker 2: here as well. So no, I mean, I'm not factoring
- 34:16Speaker 2: that that in. But again, there's so many guys in
- 34:18Speaker 2: this range, and so many playable guys. Man, there's a lot,
- 34:23Speaker 2: and I know I just rattled off the ones that
- 34:25Speaker 2: kind of stood up to me, and just going through
- 34:27Speaker 2: this list again, I think there's even more that I
- 34:29Speaker 2: would potentially consider playing it if needed.
- 34:32Speaker 1: Yeah, and also too for anybody that was looking at
- 34:34Speaker 1: the wavestack stuff earlier. If you are going to play
- 34:36Speaker 1: both wavestacks. It's really spread out this week. I just
- 34:39Speaker 1: wanted to note that quickly while we were here, because
- 34:41Speaker 1: just in the seven k ranges stood out. But then
- 34:43Speaker 1: I scrolled back up it was one couple of weeks ago.
- 34:45Speaker 1: I forget what it was where we were trying to
- 34:46Speaker 1: look at it. We're like, well, shit, there's only three
- 34:48Speaker 1: guys up top that were even in the right way.
- 34:50Speaker 1: I think it was the Billie Horsseell withdraw week where
- 34:52Speaker 1: it was like there's only four guys in the top
- 34:53Speaker 1: or something that you could really get after here, you've
- 34:56Speaker 1: got a pretty even split for AMPM from eighty five
- 35:00Speaker 1: hundred and up, and then even when you go into
- 35:02Speaker 1: the seven K range, it's funny. The upper sevens are
- 35:04Speaker 1: almost all am wave except for Yager and Mitchell. Essentially
- 35:10Speaker 1: after that it's gets split up pretty wide. But in
- 35:12Speaker 1: that lower seven k range it's completely split. And what's
- 35:16Speaker 1: the difference between some of these guys not much and
- 35:18Speaker 1: the ownership's low. You can just get a ton of
- 35:19Speaker 1: leverage down here. So we talk about you know, mentioning
- 35:22Speaker 1: it earlier. If you pick your guys, find your ones
- 35:24Speaker 1: down here that you're comfortable with, and then mix some
- 35:26Speaker 1: of these guys in up top, I'm okay with that.
- 35:28Speaker 1: But if again, on the contrary, if you say, look,
- 35:31Speaker 1: I don't know what to do down low, but I
- 35:33Speaker 1: know I love Sung Jay this week, and I know
- 35:35Speaker 1: I love Cam Young this week, well then that's where
- 35:37Speaker 1: you'd want to go the reverse of this, because you
- 35:40Speaker 1: already know that they're gonna come with the like Sung
- 35:41Speaker 1: Jay is gonna come with ownership for sure, Cam Young
- 35:43Speaker 1: not so much. But if he's your guy again it
- 35:45Speaker 1: I'm just saying, when you do that, that's where you
- 35:47Speaker 1: can then sprinkle these guys down low instead. Again, not
- 35:50Speaker 1: who you play, it's how you play them. If that's
- 35:52Speaker 1: how you feel about it, I would do that because
- 35:54Speaker 1: all these guys down low are going to be five
- 35:55Speaker 1: percent or less owned. Majority of them, like Doug gimm
- 35:58Speaker 1: Is gonna get ownership, maybe BEng Gray a little bit,
- 36:01Speaker 1: the mac Meisners and Novaks in the world a little bit,
- 36:03Speaker 1: but it's not enough to talk about. So I think
- 36:05Speaker 1: you just should always factor that in when you're looking
- 36:07Speaker 1: at it. Lots of different ways you can go about
- 36:09Speaker 1: it here this week, and guys that you can use
- 36:11Speaker 1: in this lower seven K range. It all comes down
- 36:12Speaker 1: to roster construction. Let's talk about these sixes though. Who
- 36:15Speaker 1: because I'm looking at it here and this is what
- 36:18Speaker 1: I was trying to figure out when I was talking
- 36:19Speaker 1: to you. But there is eighty nine guys in the
- 36:22Speaker 1: six K range. A bunch of them I think are
- 36:24Speaker 1: completely unplayable, as most would But who is playable? To you?
- 36:27Speaker 1: Who are some of the guys that stand out for
- 36:28Speaker 1: you down in this range?
- 36:31Speaker 2: Yeah, a ton of guys down here. I don't think
- 36:33Speaker 2: anyone gets much ownership, so nothing to worry about their
- 36:36Speaker 2: Olison at sixty nine, I don't mind. I've been playing
- 36:39Speaker 2: Ben Coles. The results have been actually pretty impressive, I'd
- 36:42Speaker 2: say for Ben Coles, fifty six of the US Open,
- 36:45Speaker 2: twentieth at the Rocket Mortgage, fifty second at the John Deere,
- 36:49Speaker 2: forty six at the Genesis, and then twenty fourth at
- 36:53Speaker 2: the three I'm open. So he's probably one of my favorites.
- 36:55Speaker 2: Sound here, Ben Silverman, Adam Shank, Pearson, Coodi, Nick Taylor,
- 37:01Speaker 2: Lee Hodges. I'm interested in him a little bit. Matthew
- 37:05Speaker 2: Nei Smith at sixty seven. Justin has had a couple
- 37:09Speaker 2: solid finishes in a row. Eleventh at the Barry Kuda
- 37:12Speaker 2: nineteenth at the three I'm Open. I think you're can
- 37:14Speaker 2: take a chance on him. Gary Woodland, I don't think
- 37:18Speaker 2: I've clicked the name like at all, but last two events,
- 37:21Speaker 2: you know, made the cut at the Open Championship for
- 37:24Speaker 2: fiftieth and then at the three I'm Open thirty seventh,
- 37:27Speaker 2: another weak field events the event. He's sixty six hundred.
- 37:32Speaker 2: I don't mind playing him, like, I'm not prioritizing him,
- 37:35Speaker 2: but if I need more cheap guys, I'd throw him
- 37:37Speaker 2: into the conversation for sure. And then after that it
- 37:40Speaker 2: gets it gets, It gets pretty good. Gross. I mean,
- 37:43Speaker 2: there's not much that I like just looking down here.
- 37:47Speaker 2: Paton Kazira maybe at sixty four, but yeah, I don't know.
- 37:51Speaker 2: I'll probably limit it to if I'm doing one fifty,
- 37:53Speaker 2: i'd probably have eight to ten of these guys maybe
- 37:56Speaker 2: at the most.
- 37:57Speaker 1: Yeah, And I was just trying to see too, but
- 37:59Speaker 1: like for me, probably the guys on the screen here
- 38:01Speaker 1: that I'm kind of interested in right now at least
- 38:03Speaker 1: just to see who else I will know. And we
- 38:06Speaker 1: got on it right away, but not everyone put it
- 38:07Speaker 1: in there. But Hendrick Norlander got added to the field
- 38:10Speaker 1: that sixty three hundred. His betting odds were a lot
- 38:13Speaker 1: better than the guys around him. Again, not that that's everything,
- 38:15Speaker 1: but just to know I can that's.
- 38:16Speaker 2: A good point. I've been playing him and the results
- 38:18Speaker 2: has been good, and he's the type of guy that
- 38:21Speaker 2: he gets things going. He can have some solid finishes
- 38:24Speaker 2: and that's what we've seen recently twenty fifth, eleventh, and twelve.
- 38:28Speaker 2: So I do like that call.
- 38:29Speaker 1: So I just gonna bring that. I mean, I'm not
- 38:31Speaker 1: necessarily playing put them all together, but like that's the
- 38:33Speaker 1: thing you can do quite a bit if you can
- 38:35Speaker 1: get behind something like this. And just to put this
- 38:37Speaker 1: line up on the screen for a second, not going
- 38:38Speaker 1: to complete it, but just to note I actually don't
- 38:41Speaker 1: hate something like this because I just don't think it matters.
- 38:44Speaker 1: If you have Ben Coles and Nie Smith over like
- 38:47Speaker 1: the two seven k guys that you're gonna pick at
- 38:49Speaker 1: the bottom of the seventies, whoever shows up shows up
- 38:52Speaker 1: your risk, which technically isn't even as risky when you
- 38:55Speaker 1: see some of these odds, but like Hendrick Norlander would
- 38:58Speaker 1: be considered the risk. But I would just Classy Cole's
- 39:00Speaker 1: and Nie Smith as the same as some of these
- 39:02Speaker 1: guys in the lower sevens. That again, if you think
- 39:05Speaker 1: they're upgrades, change them in your lineup, and you still
- 39:07Speaker 1: have tons of money to use. I'm just showing ways
- 39:09Speaker 1: you can look at it differently, where you can factor
- 39:11Speaker 1: this in. I think a lot of people just instantly
- 39:14Speaker 1: see the two six k guys and a third and
- 39:16Speaker 1: they think this necessarily means too risky. But if you
- 39:19Speaker 1: are okay with Norlander, then I really don't see this
- 39:23Speaker 1: as risky at all. I see this as fine. It's
- 39:24Speaker 1: just do these guys show up and do they score?
- 39:27Speaker 1: That's really what it's gonna come down to. So I
- 39:29Speaker 1: think there's probably twelve to fifteen guys in that low
- 39:32Speaker 1: six k range that you mentioned Hoop, like just some
- 39:34Speaker 1: of the ones you talked about already. You mentioned Cole Silverman, Shank,
- 39:38Speaker 1: Nick Taylor just for the potential of his talent. You
- 39:40Speaker 1: go down. Someone mentioned lower scoring, you know, sixty seven
- 39:44Speaker 1: points plus or summer sixty eight points plus. That's fine,
- 39:46Speaker 1: Nie Smith who you talked about? Who else? Anybody else
- 39:51Speaker 1: that I'm really super high on. No, not not really,
- 39:53Speaker 1: to be honest. So maybe less than I thought. Maybe
- 39:55Speaker 1: maybe ten guys if I really you know, go through
- 39:57Speaker 1: it with a fine tooth comb. But that's why I
- 39:59Speaker 1: said the guy early, I'm planning to pick my spots
- 40:01Speaker 1: down low this week and then change it up up top,
- 40:05Speaker 1: because I just think mixing those guys in at an
- 40:06Speaker 1: event like this would make a lot of sense. And
- 40:09Speaker 1: there's lots of different roster constructions you can find within that.
- 40:11Speaker 1: So anything else, hoop that you want to add, anything
- 40:14Speaker 1: from a roster construction perspective, now that you've seen the
- 40:16Speaker 1: whole slate, just any grand scheme overview to round it
- 40:18Speaker 1: out for you.
- 40:19Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that point that you talked about there
- 40:21Speaker 2: at the end. You know, with this build that you
- 40:23Speaker 2: have up on the screen, I mean, there's really not
- 40:25Speaker 2: much of a difference between these six K guys and
- 40:28Speaker 2: then like the lower seven K guys, which are going
- 40:30Speaker 2: to probably get like much more ownership. So you know,
- 40:33Speaker 2: playing a couple of these six K guys over a
- 40:36Speaker 2: couple seven KK guys gives you a different roster construction.
- 40:39Speaker 2: People have a fear of playing a lot of times
- 40:42Speaker 2: a fear of playing multiple guys in the six K range,
- 40:44Speaker 2: and that will be the case this week because some
- 40:46Speaker 2: pretty nasty names down here and people are gonna feel
- 40:48Speaker 2: much comfortable just getting up to the seven K range.
- 40:51Speaker 2: So that's definitely one way to get different with what
- 40:54Speaker 2: roster construction, one way to play some of the more
- 40:56Speaker 2: popular guys on the slate while getting a little bit different.
- 40:59Speaker 2: So I think that is a very strong point. But
- 41:02Speaker 2: you know, the big talk is the weather this week.
- 41:04Speaker 2: What's going to happen? You know, no information at this point.
- 41:08Speaker 2: I guess I'd probably be surprised if the PGA Tour
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- 41:13Speaker 2: But definitely getting the discord because we'll have you updated
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- 41:22Speaker 2: final full field event, and then then we head to
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