Latest / Steve Price / Steve Price | 29 August

Transcript

Steve Price | 29 August · Steve Price

0:00
Speaker 1: This is Steve Price. Welcome to Friday Nights. Steve Price,
0:06
Speaker 1: with you an update on the hunt for alleged police
0:09
Speaker 1: killer Desi Freeman. I'll have that shortly for you as
0:12
Speaker 1: we head for a fourth night with no sightings so far.
0:15
Speaker 1: Coming up. Emotional scenes at the National Bush Summit in
0:17
Speaker 1: Ballarat today with the Victorian Premier heckled from the stage
0:21
Speaker 1: as angry farmers confronted both Jacinta Allen and the Prime
0:25
Speaker 1: Minister Anthony Albanezi. I had my say on that shortly.
0:28
Speaker 1: At the same time, an ignorant state government, aided by
0:32
Speaker 1: independence from the Greens Marijuana Party Animal Justice, they ram
0:36
Speaker 1: through new legislation that forces farmers to allow access for
0:40
Speaker 1: transmission lines on their private properties. Will talk to the
0:43
Speaker 1: state opposition and farmers groups about that. Plus the fallout
0:47
Speaker 1: from the chaotic quick trip to Washington by Deputy Prime
0:50
Speaker 1: Minister Richard Miles. And news that you will not believe
0:54
Speaker 1: that the leaders of Russia, China and North Korea will
0:57
Speaker 1: get together at a massive military parade in Beijing. And
1:01
Speaker 1: guess who the special guests will be from Australia. Former
1:04
Speaker 1: Foreign Minister Bob Carr and ex Victorian Premier Dan Andrews,
1:09
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding, but first, if we ever need a
1:11
Speaker 1: proof that federal and state labor governments are completely out
1:15
Speaker 1: of touch with regional and rural Australia, we saw it
1:18
Speaker 1: live on sky Today, beamed in from the Bush Summit
1:21
Speaker 1: in Ballarat. At the historic gold mining regional town in Victoria,
1:26
Speaker 1: protesters manning tractors and CFA tankers circled the venue for
1:31
Speaker 1: the Bush Summit, angry that keynote speakers, the Prime Minister
1:34
Speaker 1: and Jacinda Allen were there and in the ultimate slap
1:37
Speaker 1: in the face for battling farmers, the Allen government rammed
1:41
Speaker 1: legislation through Parliament late last night that will give renewable
1:44
Speaker 1: energy companies the right to enter property and force transmission
1:49
Speaker 1: lines to be built whether the farmer wants it on
1:51
Speaker 1: their land or not. Add to that, the same government
1:55
Speaker 1: has slapped every Victorian with an Emergency Services and Volunteers levy,
2:00
Speaker 1: including the very volunteers it claims to fund. Many farmers
2:03
Speaker 1: are going to face bills in the thousands now. I've
2:05
Speaker 1: been saying for months the bushes like a tinder box,
2:08
Speaker 1: the anger volatile, and things will only get worse. Look
2:12
Speaker 1: I've been around a very long time, and I have
2:15
Speaker 1: never seen such unpopular politicians as those two. But even
2:19
Speaker 1: during the dark days of COVID and the low Daniel Andrews,
2:23
Speaker 1: I've never seen the sort of reception we saw for
2:26
Speaker 1: two senior political figures today. Have a listen to the
2:28
Speaker 1: reaction to Premier Allen as she tries to defend the
2:32
Speaker 1: construction needed for renewable energy projects.
2:36
Speaker 2: And that's why also we're supporting renewable.
2:38
Speaker 3: Energy projects as well, that a driving investment.
2:48
Speaker 1: Well, the Prime Minister spoke before the Premier it wasn't
2:50
Speaker 1: much better for Anthony Albanezi.
2:53
Speaker 4: And I'll continue to engage, but I won't bullshit people.
2:57
Speaker 4: I won't say, I won't say. I won't say. I
3:02
Speaker 4: won't come along and say we're going to do something
3:07
Speaker 4: with new caul fire power stations when it didn't happen,
3:11
Speaker 4: And I'm not going to come along and say the
3:13
Speaker 4: solution is something that might happen sometime into the two
3:18
Speaker 4: thousand and forties.
3:21
Speaker 1: Talk about not reading the room. The room is angry
3:23
Speaker 1: and why wouldn't they be. That bill pass last night
3:26
Speaker 1: says it all. It's called the VIC Grid Stage two
3:28
Speaker 1: Reform bill giving power companies beefed up ability to enter
3:32
Speaker 1: properties to build five hundred killer vault transmission lines and
3:36
Speaker 1: eighty meter towers through Victorian properties to connect new solar
3:41
Speaker 1: and wind farms to the grid. Add to that levy
3:44
Speaker 1: I mentioned, and you have the perfect storm. Sadly, for
3:47
Speaker 1: these hard working generational farmers, Albanezy and Allen, both from
3:52
Speaker 1: the hard left, know that none of these people in
3:54
Speaker 1: that room actually vote for them. None of the protests
3:57
Speaker 1: will do anything to affect the political career of these
4:00
Speaker 1: two because they rely on young, city based green tinge
4:04
Speaker 1: voters for their survival. They can make all the sympathetic
4:08
Speaker 1: noises they like, but deep down both are committed to
4:11
Speaker 1: carpet bombing the regions with wind turbines, solar panels, and
4:16
Speaker 1: transmission lines in their crazy dash to net zero. Opposition
4:21
Speaker 1: leader Susan Lee was also there, better accepted as she
4:24
Speaker 1: made her pledge to be on the side of farmers
4:26
Speaker 1: when it comes to renewables.
4:29
Speaker 5: My mantra is simple. If a farmer does not want
4:33
Speaker 5: a high transmission a high power transmission line across their
4:37
Speaker 5: farm line, then it should not happen. With no social license,
4:48
Speaker 5: it should not happen. I am shocked to read of
4:52
Speaker 5: what is passing through the Victorian Parliament as we sit
4:55
Speaker 5: here today.
4:57
Speaker 1: I thought she was impressive. I thought that's her best
4:59
Speaker 1: before woman since she's become Opposition leader. Now look, you
5:03
Speaker 1: have to give the Prime Minister and the Premier some
5:05
Speaker 1: credit for turning up. And no one should be protesting
5:08
Speaker 1: as one woman was with a noose around their neck
5:12
Speaker 1: like that. She should have been object evicted from the building.
5:16
Speaker 1: But the anger is of the Prime Minister and Premier
5:18
Speaker 1: zone making and I can tell you it's not going
5:21
Speaker 1: to get any better. The opposition is David Davis will
5:27
Speaker 1: join me in a moment. Let's cross out of sky
5:29
Speaker 1: and news reporter Georgie Dickinson, who is back covering the
5:32
Speaker 1: man hunt from Victoria's Highlands in Poor Punker and Wangaatta. Georgie,
5:36
Speaker 1: we're now ending day four. The police commissioner today, I
5:41
Speaker 1: mean he said they're not going to leave until they
5:43
Speaker 1: find Deisi Freeman. No sighting so far, no updates late today.
5:51
Speaker 6: No, not at this stage.
5:52
Speaker 1: Good evening to you.
5:53
Speaker 4: Stup.
5:53
Speaker 6: We did hear from the Chief Commissioner, Mike BULLSHITLD around
5:56
Speaker 6: one o'clock this afternoon and he did provide that update
5:59
Speaker 6: to say that more authorities were going to be brought in.
6:02
Speaker 6: Around four hundred and fifty officers are now here on
6:05
Speaker 6: the ground in this small regional town scouring this dense
6:09
Speaker 6: bushland looking for Desi Freeman. The major update that we
6:13
Speaker 6: did have overnight, though, was the arrest of Dessi Freeman's
6:16
Speaker 6: wife and teenage son. They were raided their property. One
6:20
Speaker 6: of their family members property rather in the town of
6:23
Speaker 6: Poor Punker, was raided late last night and his wife
6:27
Speaker 6: and teenage son taken in Why authorities arrested. They were questioned,
6:31
Speaker 6: but they were released without further charge. But this gives
6:34
Speaker 6: you a sense of the length that those officers are
6:36
Speaker 6: going to to ensure that they can track down this
6:38
Speaker 6: alleged cop killer. In terms of the conditions today though,
6:43
Speaker 6: they have been relentless. Around an hour and a half
6:45
Speaker 6: ago we were pelted by hail, wind and rain and lightning,
6:50
Speaker 6: So terrible conditions for those authorities scouring this extraordinarily dense bushland.
6:55
Speaker 1: Steve, No, you, Georgie, you will have been talking to locals.
7:00
Speaker 1: What are they saying. Do they have a theory on
7:02
Speaker 1: what might be going to happen? Are they concerned that
7:04
Speaker 1: the fact that their little community is shut down again
7:07
Speaker 1: for the fourth day. I mean, normally it'd have people
7:10
Speaker 1: traveling up to Fall's Creek and Mount Hotham stopping in
7:13
Speaker 1: Poor Punker buying stuff. I presume most of the shops
7:16
Speaker 1: are shut it is.
7:19
Speaker 6: It's very eerie when you do walk around the streets
7:21
Speaker 6: in Poor Punker and in Bright. So this afternoon the
7:24
Speaker 6: town of Bright looked a little busier than it has
7:27
Speaker 6: in the past few days. But we were speaking to
7:29
Speaker 6: locals and a lot of them are just only opening
7:31
Speaker 6: for a few hours each day because of the text
7:34
Speaker 6: messages that they have been receiving from all authorities that's
7:37
Speaker 6: telling them to stay indoors, telling them to not go
7:40
Speaker 6: outside if they don't need to so for the safety
7:43
Speaker 6: of the staff there. They're remaining cautious, listening to police's advice.
7:48
Speaker 6: We also did speak to the Chamber of Commerce. As
7:51
Speaker 6: you mentioned, this is normally a bustling time for the town.
7:54
Speaker 6: Even speaking to the receptionists of the hotels, they're saying
7:57
Speaker 6: that people are cautious. They're calling up trying to cancel
8:00
Speaker 6: their bookings for this weekend because they don't really want
8:02
Speaker 6: to travel to this region while there's this man on
8:05
Speaker 6: the loose. But here's what the Chamber of Commerce had
8:07
Speaker 6: to say to us.
8:09
Speaker 7: Some of the businesses are receiving cancelation notices, so some
8:12
Speaker 7: of the restaurants have got no bookings tonight. People are
8:14
Speaker 7: making those decisions not to travel and that then obviously
8:17
Speaker 7: has a huge impact on their income. They've got supplies
8:20
Speaker 7: waiting to be eaten and they've got no people wanting
8:23
Speaker 7: to use them. Other businesses have got a duty of
8:25
Speaker 7: care to their stuff, so they're working out whether they
8:27
Speaker 7: should open or not and just give their staff the
8:29
Speaker 7: weekend off. So yeah, it's pretty rough at the moment.
8:31
Speaker 7: We're making some quick decisions.
8:33
Speaker 6: So step another cold night here for authorities as they
8:36
Speaker 6: continue this surge. I think it's sitting around it feels
8:38
Speaker 6: like temp of two or three degrees at the moment,
8:41
Speaker 6: So blistering conditions for these authorities. But certainly they're going
8:45
Speaker 6: to continue throughout the night to track Desi Freeman down.
8:50
Speaker 1: Great work, Georgie, come back to us if there are
8:52
Speaker 1: any updates, says Georgie. Up there, she's doing a fantastic job.
8:56
Speaker 1: Now let's get back to that as a story. I
8:59
Speaker 1: started with it the beginning the program will bring in
9:01
Speaker 1: Victorian Shadow Energy and Resources Minister David Davis, and what's
9:04
Speaker 1: been a very big day in Victoria. Palpable anger in
9:08
Speaker 1: Ballarat at that Bush Summer per Summer, the PM, the
9:11
Speaker 1: Victorian Premier, they were really abused by the audience, as
9:16
Speaker 1: they should have. David, have a look at this.
9:19
Speaker 2: But the bottom line is this is all about all Victorians,
9:22
Speaker 2: because every Victorian is going to get hit worse than
9:25
Speaker 2: worse every year.
9:27
Speaker 1: David, I guess the Premier would have known this was
9:29
Speaker 1: going to happen. You've got to give us some credit
9:31
Speaker 1: for turning up, but you know she doesn't understand the anger.
9:36
Speaker 1: I don't believe and this is despite the fact she
9:38
Speaker 1: lives in regional Victoria herself.
9:40
Speaker 3: She does get some credit for turning up. But the
9:43
Speaker 3: truth of the matter is this government and jacindare Ellen
9:46
Speaker 3: in particular are far out of touch. They've been in
9:49
Speaker 3: power a very long time now. The government is now
9:53
Speaker 3: at a point where it's distant, it's disconnected from the community.
9:57
Speaker 3: They don't understand what is happening, particularly in Country Victoria.
10:01
Speaker 3: The new taxes, the new charges, that new levee that's
10:04
Speaker 3: gone on, it's massive, it's hurting people across the state.
10:09
Speaker 3: But this particular outing up in Ballarat. I mean that
10:14
Speaker 3: is emblematic of where Country Victoria is now with Jacinarellen.
10:18
Speaker 3: They think she's let them down and let them down
10:21
Speaker 3: very very badly.
10:22
Speaker 1: Splain this bill that went through last night, and know
10:24
Speaker 1: it was very late, finished at about twelve thirty were there.
10:27
Speaker 1: It had the support of the Greens, the Marijuana Party
10:30
Speaker 1: and the Animal Justice Currier. Normal suspects what came out
10:34
Speaker 1: of it that makes it less onerous than it was.
10:37
Speaker 3: Even though we STIOK this, there's no real fundamental change
10:41
Speaker 3: in the bill.
10:42
Speaker 1: The bill is there.
10:43
Speaker 3: It grabs more power for the central government, more power
10:47
Speaker 3: for the lower mission technology companies to get out there
10:52
Speaker 3: and force their facilities, the high tension power lines onto
10:57
Speaker 3: farmers land.
10:57
Speaker 1: So you and I own a twelve hundred hectare farm,
11:00
Speaker 1: we don't want to have anything to do that. We
11:01
Speaker 1: don't want to be paid. I don't care that you
11:03
Speaker 1: can pay us as much as you like. I don't
11:05
Speaker 1: want transmission lines on my property. What can you and
11:08
Speaker 1: I do when this is law?
11:10
Speaker 3: Well, governments have always had a lot of powers, but
11:13
Speaker 3: the government under this bill is sort massive new powers
11:15
Speaker 3: to enter the property to what.
11:18
Speaker 1: If you lock your gate, well, they're going to cut it.
11:20
Speaker 3: And if you put a piece of machinery there, they're
11:23
Speaker 3: going to move that piece of machinery. In Australia, it
11:27
Speaker 3: is un Australian. It's overreach in extreme it's a very
11:32
Speaker 3: sharp divergence from what we would expect as the normal
11:35
Speaker 3: pattern of democratic These.
11:37
Speaker 1: Power companies actually do that to other restrainers.
11:41
Speaker 3: In the chamber last night, I asked the minister, I said,
11:44
Speaker 3: you know, will will these powers enable somebody to go
11:47
Speaker 3: on the land and put someone in the headlock? The
11:49
Speaker 3: answer is she wouldn't answer it. Can they move the
11:53
Speaker 3: large header, the big grader that's been put in the way?
11:57
Speaker 3: I said, So you're going to train these authorized offices
11:59
Speaker 3: in driving massive equipment? Is that really what you're going
12:02
Speaker 3: to do. This is absurd and it's wrong and it's
12:08
Speaker 3: really draconian stuff that we're seeing and victorians don't, I think,
12:13
Speaker 3: want to see this. We've committed to repeal these laws
12:16
Speaker 3: because we think it's a huge overreach. The Greens, the
12:21
Speaker 3: Cannabis Party and the Animal Justice Party tried to soften
12:26
Speaker 3: a few of the points, but the truth is. There's
12:29
Speaker 3: still penalties in the Act at forty eight thousand dollars
12:33
Speaker 3: for corporate, twelve thousand dollars odd for ANUW those phones
12:36
Speaker 3: not lowered. Nine of them were lowered, but ten of
12:39
Speaker 3: them stay where they were, and the ability to go
12:42
Speaker 3: on to properties, all of that is untouched. So the
12:46
Speaker 3: powers are there. Jacinta Allen has got her big stick.
12:50
Speaker 3: She can go in and she can do what she
12:53
Speaker 3: likes on farmer's land. And it's completely undemocratic. It's completely
12:58
Speaker 3: beyond the Pale.
12:59
Speaker 1: Tree's mission line that connects New South Wales with Victoria.
13:04
Speaker 1: It's required to bolt on all of the new wind
13:07
Speaker 1: turbines and solar panels. Some of it's in New South Wales.
13:12
Speaker 1: What's the situation there? Does Chris Min's labor government there
13:16
Speaker 1: have draconian legislation that says I can come and we'll
13:20
Speaker 1: lose your head.
13:21
Speaker 3: All of this eighteen oversighted by an email but driven
13:24
Speaker 3: in many cases by Lily Dan Brosier in Victoria.
13:29
Speaker 1: And so our laws are more draconian than.
13:31
Speaker 3: Well, they've added new powers than this bill last night,
13:35
Speaker 3: this bill. You know, governments have got a lot of power,
13:38
Speaker 3: and for a good reason. I mean, you know, a
13:40
Speaker 3: new road has to be built, a corner has to
13:43
Speaker 3: be done. You know, they've obviously got to have certain powers,
13:46
Speaker 3: but this just adds another massive layer on top of
13:50
Speaker 3: additional powers to go onto properties, to cutlocks, to do
13:56
Speaker 3: things like move equipment that and you know they should
14:00
Speaker 3: be talking to these communities.
14:02
Speaker 1: The other thing should be discussing the other thing that
14:04
Speaker 1: really worries me. You know, I want to ask you
14:06
Speaker 1: about Dan Andrews going to China re sect before we finish.
14:08
Speaker 1: The other thing that worries me about this is it
14:10
Speaker 1: sets neighbor against neighbour. Because if you've said, look, my
14:13
Speaker 1: farm's not going all that welldel I might get out
14:17
Speaker 1: of it in the next five years. Yeah, I'll take
14:19
Speaker 1: the However, many thousands of dollars for each kilometer, and
14:23
Speaker 1: so suddenly your neighbor and you don't like each other anymore.
14:26
Speaker 3: There's no doubt that this will divide towns, divide communities,
14:30
Speaker 3: divide country Victoria. And you know the state government is
14:34
Speaker 3: behind it all. They're driving it. Just cinerell And wanted
14:37
Speaker 3: these extra powers. She's the one who's pushing in this direction.
14:42
Speaker 3: And you know it is far out of touch from
14:45
Speaker 3: where the rest of the community is.
14:46
Speaker 1: Australian newspaper reporting late today that former Foreign Minister bobcar
14:50
Speaker 1: Form when new South Wales Premier and former Victorian Premier
14:54
Speaker 1: Daniel Andrews will be treated as esteemed guests at a
14:58
Speaker 1: military parade into Uhiman Square that is going to be
15:02
Speaker 1: attended by Vladimir Putin, Kim John Un and President j
15:08
Speaker 1: What do you make of that?
15:09
Speaker 3: Well, I am the strongest supporter of the Chinese community.
15:13
Speaker 3: But let me just say one thing here. I thought
15:16
Speaker 3: the Second World War was fought against totalitarianism. It was
15:21
Speaker 3: thought to stop totalitarianism. Now I don't think it does
15:24
Speaker 3: anyone any credit to be associating with these sort of dictators.
15:30
Speaker 1: Daniel Andrews made a private well it made a trip
15:32
Speaker 1: to China, took no media, came back and we never
15:35
Speaker 1: really found out what he bite might not have signed
15:38
Speaker 1: up to. Do we know now?
15:40
Speaker 3: Not really, I don't think we do.
15:42
Speaker 1: So he's going to stand up there on the stage
15:43
Speaker 1: and the steam gets the Chinese.
15:46
Speaker 3: And associate with all the other dictators.
15:50
Speaker 1: Davis, thanks very much for joining us. Avid Davis said,
15:52
Speaker 1: that is just extraordinary. We'll have more to say about
15:54
Speaker 1: that visit by Dan Andrews and Bob Ka. Later on
15:57
Speaker 1: the program, after the break, we'll speak to one of
15:59
Speaker 1: the battling farmers who's actually dealing with this, someone on
16:02
Speaker 1: the ground and these consequences of that decision to give
16:05
Speaker 1: energy companies, as David just told us, the right to
16:07
Speaker 1: barge onto your property. Plus the Ovoide of Iran has
16:11
Speaker 1: been given the boot, as he should have been, but
16:13
Speaker 1: not before he praised a structia for its support for Palestine.
16:17
Speaker 1: Can you believe that? Welcome back to Friday Nights. Now,
16:23
Speaker 1: our next guest is a dairy farmer from southwestern Victoria who,
16:27
Speaker 1: this year, amid the battle against drought, long dry spell
16:31
Speaker 1: that's left grazing paddocks bear and forced farmers to sell
16:34
Speaker 1: off stock to buy fodder, has had to endure now
16:37
Speaker 1: the reckless decisions of this state government. It's just horrender us.
16:39
Speaker 1: We're just talking to David Davis about it. You've got
16:42
Speaker 1: this new emergency services levy. It's going to hit every Victorian,
16:46
Speaker 1: particularly hit farmers hard. Now you've got this access to
16:50
Speaker 1: farmers land which is going to be forced on people
16:53
Speaker 1: to put on transmission lines. Bernie Free joins us. Now,
16:56
Speaker 1: good to talk to you again, Bernie. Before I get
16:58
Speaker 1: to the energy legislation, I wanted to get your thoughts
17:01
Speaker 1: on the reception the Premier and the Prime Minister got
17:03
Speaker 1: it that Bush shammered in Ballarat today.
17:07
Speaker 8: Thanks for the time. Yeah, that was an interesting reception. Yeah,
17:13
Speaker 8: Premier didn't get a very good reception and the PM
17:19
Speaker 8: wasn't far behind either of anger in the ruin towards
17:25
Speaker 8: the state government.
17:26
Speaker 1: Especially how widespread in the in the regions is that anger, Bernie?
17:34
Speaker 8: I think it's in the farming community. It's nearly one
17:37
Speaker 8: hundred percent. When you're taking power lines, wind towers, solar
17:43
Speaker 8: panels and especially the fire services levy, which is really
17:48
Speaker 8: a tax. Farmers just can't during all of this course
17:57
Speaker 8: that are there in front of them.
18:00
Speaker 1: During this, of course, you've had to deal with the
18:02
Speaker 1: drought as well. I mean we've got heavy rain across
18:05
Speaker 1: Metro Melbourne this weekend. I don't know what you're getting
18:09
Speaker 1: down where you are, but is it past the point
18:13
Speaker 1: where any rain we get now is going to have
18:16
Speaker 1: any meaningful impact and help you?
18:20
Speaker 8: No, any rain from now on is helpful. We didn't
18:24
Speaker 8: have much rain today down at Warnable by the look
18:26
Speaker 8: of it. I've only been home half an hour from
18:29
Speaker 8: the meeting. Yeah, we'll get it will help us through
18:34
Speaker 8: the spring, but it's not going to cover us till
18:36
Speaker 8: the autumn. We're still in drought and we've still got
18:38
Speaker 8: another seven eight months of this to go.
18:41
Speaker 4: Is very.
18:44
Speaker 1: Well The Prime Minister today announced he said he was
18:46
Speaker 1: going to tip another billion dollars into low interest rate
18:49
Speaker 1: loans to cover things like drought and floods. Just give
18:53
Speaker 1: us an insight into how hard it is to access
18:55
Speaker 1: that sort of money, And Susan Lee said, look, it
18:58
Speaker 1: should be interest free, not low interest Is it difficult
19:02
Speaker 1: to access that sort of help?
19:05
Speaker 8: Everybody that's accessed it that I know of has had
19:08
Speaker 8: trouble accessing it. Most of them have been denied. And
19:13
Speaker 8: the interest rate is not really low. It's five point
19:18
Speaker 8: one or something, almost the same as what you can
19:20
Speaker 8: get for a housing loan. So it's not an interest
19:25
Speaker 8: rate subsidy of any sort needs to be a zero
19:28
Speaker 8: percent for two or three years and then slowly ramped
19:31
Speaker 8: up over the time of the loan.
19:36
Speaker 1: How does he get away with calling it a low
19:38
Speaker 1: interest rate loan? Then?
19:40
Speaker 8: Well, you know what politicians are like. They're better at
19:43
Speaker 8: spin than what farmers are. We just say it as
19:45
Speaker 8: it is.
19:49
Speaker 1: Well, that's true, but it's just dishonest. Let's talk about
19:51
Speaker 1: the passing of this transmission energy legislation late last night
19:55
Speaker 1: Victorian Parliament. They knocked some of the fines back if
19:59
Speaker 1: you don't let people onto your property, but it's now
20:02
Speaker 1: allowing these energy companies. As David Davis just told us,
20:06
Speaker 1: if you lock your gate, they can cut the padlock.
20:08
Speaker 1: If you put a header or a piece of heavy equipment,
20:11
Speaker 1: a tractor or something across your gate, they'll move it
20:13
Speaker 1: out of the way. How do you feel as an Australian,
20:17
Speaker 1: a Victorian, a farmer, someone who provides food for us,
20:21
Speaker 1: that a government's doing that to you.
20:23
Speaker 8: Well, as Brett Hoskins said today and plenty of other
20:27
Speaker 8: people have said it before, two percent of the land
20:30
Speaker 8: in Australia as in Victoria, that's a culture. We've percent
20:36
Speaker 8: of produce for Australia. The land in Victoria that's in
20:41
Speaker 8: agricultural hands, punch's way above its way. The state government
20:46
Speaker 8: has no idea of what they're doing with this sort
20:51
Speaker 8: of legislation. You've got to get the community to come
20:54
Speaker 8: along with you if you're going to achieve these sort
20:57
Speaker 8: of big strategic idea is that they have in their head.
21:02
Speaker 8: And if you're going to do it, it needs to
21:04
Speaker 8: be where the people that are providing the service, that is,
21:06
Speaker 8: we're providing the land, we're providing the ability for the
21:10
Speaker 8: energy to be generated, that the community actually gets something
21:14
Speaker 8: out of it. And bred Hoskins had the idea of
21:20
Speaker 8: a green urea plant. Today there's plenty of other ideas.
21:24
Speaker 8: There's plenty of other communities that have got ideas that
21:28
Speaker 8: they want the money spent on, rather than we provide
21:32
Speaker 8: the power that goes to the city and then we
21:34
Speaker 8: get nothing for it, and that's just not fair. That's
21:37
Speaker 8: UnAustralian for the whole community. And we're not just talking
21:41
Speaker 8: about farmers, because everybody in the community has to look
21:44
Speaker 8: at these body towers across the landscape and the wind
21:50
Speaker 8: towers turning. I don't see them happening in Port Philip Bay.
21:54
Speaker 8: I don't see all of the rooftops in Melbourne with
21:57
Speaker 8: solar panels on them. I don't see them saying that, well,
22:01
Speaker 8: we can have a battery in the middle of Melbourne,
22:03
Speaker 8: because you know, we don't need wind and we don't
22:05
Speaker 8: need sunshine.
22:06
Speaker 1: For that.
22:07
Speaker 8: Well, don't keep on dumping it on us and not
22:09
Speaker 8: paying for it properly.
22:13
Speaker 1: Well said Bernie. We're on your side, mate, Thank you
22:15
Speaker 1: for joining us again. Keep your head up and I
22:17
Speaker 1: know you'll keep the fight up as well. Let's bring
22:19
Speaker 1: in our Friday Night regular from a Queensland premier, Campbell Newman, Campbell,
22:22
Speaker 1: great to see you. I just spoke to two Victorians
22:27
Speaker 1: who that farmer there. If he says he doesn't want
22:31
Speaker 1: a transmission line on his property, he's now got no
22:33
Speaker 1: legal right to reject it. And the power companies can
22:38
Speaker 1: cut a bolt on his gate, move a tractor out
22:40
Speaker 1: of the way, bring in their equipment and erect it
22:42
Speaker 1: without his consent. That's UnAustralian in my view.
22:48
Speaker 9: Well, I think it's got to the point where this
22:50
Speaker 9: stuff is just so draconian. And that's what concerns me, Steve.
22:54
Speaker 9: And it's just the pattern we've seen probably since COVID,
22:58
Speaker 9: where a government thinks it can just sort of come
23:02
Speaker 9: sassaying in on any issue in the jack boots and
23:06
Speaker 9: boss us around and tell us what we're going to do.
23:09
Speaker 9: I mean, private property rights seem to be given scanned
23:12
Speaker 9: attention obviously by the Labor Party. But sorry, sorry, Steve.
23:17
Speaker 9: Even even the Liberal Party generally don't seem to respect
23:20
Speaker 9: property rights these days. They certainly don't stand up when
23:24
Speaker 9: when they're when they when they need to.
23:29
Speaker 1: I presume that the LMP government in Queensland is not
23:33
Speaker 1: allowing power companies unfitted access to regional and rural land
23:37
Speaker 1: for transmission lines or are they, Well, well.
23:42
Speaker 9: That's what's been happening. It's you know, there's been quite
23:46
Speaker 9: a backlash in rural Queensland, Steve, under the former Labor regime.
23:51
Speaker 9: The good thing that the Chris of Fawley government has
23:54
Speaker 9: done with Deputy Premier Jared Blaze that they've actually put
23:57
Speaker 9: the kaibosh on a number of these projects. I mean,
24:00
Speaker 9: and the problem is, of course we're destroying the environment,
24:05
Speaker 9: save it, you know, from climate change. It's just it's
24:08
Speaker 9: just without it's without sort of logic. It's it's unhinged.
24:12
Speaker 9: And when I hear figures about Victoria, like, I don't
24:15
Speaker 9: know if I've got this right exactly, but it's like
24:17
Speaker 9: seven percent of was that nine percent of the entire
24:20
Speaker 9: land area Victoria is going to be throwing over to
24:23
Speaker 9: renewables projects. I mean, I mean, that's just the industrialization
24:28
Speaker 9: of the natural landscape of Australia, and it's been going
24:32
Speaker 9: on in Queens and it's just we happen to be.
24:34
Speaker 8: A more vast estate.
24:37
Speaker 9: You know, the Great Dividing Range has been disfigured by
24:40
Speaker 9: wind farms where they're blowing the top off mountains. And
24:44
Speaker 9: yet we can't have nuclear power because it's somehow it
24:48
Speaker 9: doesn't work thousand stack up. But the rest of the
24:50
Speaker 9: world's getting on with it, I mean made.
24:51
Speaker 1: It's it's ridiculous. We live in a crazy world. I mean,
24:55
Speaker 1: we saw the treatment of the Prime Minister in Ballarat
24:59
Speaker 1: today at that book summit. He was heckled badly and
25:03
Speaker 1: he was then pursued by tractors down the main street
25:05
Speaker 1: of Ballarat as he left. You and I have been
25:07
Speaker 1: around a very long time. In most cases, Australians, regardless
25:12
Speaker 1: of whether they vote for or respect a Liberal or
25:17
Speaker 1: a labor prime minister, treat them or treat the office.
25:22
Speaker 1: I should say, they treat the Prime Minister's office with respect.
25:25
Speaker 1: I've only I reckoned seen in my time anything vaguely
25:30
Speaker 1: close to what happened there today, and it was when
25:32
Speaker 1: Scott Morrison came back from Hawaii and went down to
25:35
Speaker 1: southern New South Wales to try and talk to people
25:38
Speaker 1: about bushfires and they refuse to shake his hand. It's
25:40
Speaker 1: not very often you see this sort of thing, is it?
25:42
Speaker 1: In our country?
25:45
Speaker 9: Well, it's more extreme that I can remember for any politician.
25:48
Speaker 9: I mean, and I've I've subjected to harassment by some
25:55
Speaker 9: of the more militant unions going to places around Queensland
25:59
Speaker 9: in my time, but not pursued to that extent. And
26:05
Speaker 9: there's obviously a lot of very very upset people and
26:09
Speaker 9: they know they've got every right to feel that way
26:11
Speaker 9: at the moment. So you know, you just wish, you
26:16
Speaker 9: just wish people would listen in terms of our elected officials,
26:20
Speaker 9: both in this case the Victorian State labor government and
26:24
Speaker 9: the federal labor government. But I just don't think they're
26:28
Speaker 9: going to and they'll plow on. And you know, another
26:32
Speaker 9: thing that's going to happen over the coming weeks of
26:33
Speaker 9: these big sort of anti immigration protests, and you know,
26:37
Speaker 9: I don't I don't have too much truck with that
26:40
Speaker 9: because I believe in a big Australia and I believe
26:43
Speaker 9: in an immigration program. But the point is these people
26:47
Speaker 9: will be vilified who are angry, and they'll be demonized
26:51
Speaker 9: as being racist. But really what they're talking about is
26:54
Speaker 9: that the immigration process program is not being run properly.
27:00
Speaker 9: An immigration program needs to bring in the right people.
27:03
Speaker 9: They need to be people who will make a contribution.
27:05
Speaker 9: They need to be people who can integrate, and it
27:07
Speaker 9: needs to be planned and the infrastructure needs to be
27:10
Speaker 9: provided and none of that's happened, and so now we
27:13
Speaker 9: have this backlash. So I guess I'm just trying to
27:15
Speaker 9: say there's a lot of anger out there now building
27:18
Speaker 9: in the community and it just can't be ignored and
27:20
Speaker 9: it shouldn't just be fobbed off, whether it's about renewal energy,
27:24
Speaker 9: the rights of landowners, or whether it's to do with immigration.
27:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you the other thing. It might
27:31
Speaker 1: make you angry, and I certainly made me angry. The
27:34
Speaker 1: Australian's reporting that the former foreign minister in New South
27:38
Speaker 1: Wales's Premier Bob Karr and the former Premier of Victoria,
27:41
Speaker 1: Daniel Andrews, are going to be invited as quote esteemed
27:45
Speaker 1: guests to a military parade in tinem And Square attended
27:49
Speaker 1: by Vladimir Putin, Kim John Un and the Chinese president
27:56
Speaker 1: j That's quite remarkable that they could be so silly
28:01
Speaker 1: and so naive to accept an invite like that, given
28:04
Speaker 1: what Russia and China are currently up to.
28:10
Speaker 9: We do see these sort of dictatorships globally trying everything
28:17
Speaker 9: on to influence elections and the political discourse in Western democracies.
28:24
Speaker 9: And if I was either of those two individuals, I
28:27
Speaker 9: wouldn't want to be anywhere near this because people quite
28:31
Speaker 9: rightfully question really where their allegiances lie. And I think
28:36
Speaker 9: that's a reasonable question. You raised again for a few
28:40
Speaker 9: minutes ago on this show that the former Premier of
28:44
Speaker 9: Queens of Victoria went to China and no one really
28:47
Speaker 9: knows what that trip was all about. He never sought
28:50
Speaker 9: to justify it, and you know, it's quite right to
28:54
Speaker 9: ask what the hell I think they're doing going over there.
28:59
Speaker 9: You know, are they in our tent supporting team Australia
29:04
Speaker 9: or are they apologists for the things that some of
29:08
Speaker 9: these dictatorships do.
29:12
Speaker 4: Well.
29:12
Speaker 1: Even Paul Keating's had a sense, I think, not to
29:14
Speaker 1: accept an invitation, although we might find out he's actually there.
29:17
Speaker 1: Campbello was good to catch up on a Friday night.
29:19
Speaker 1: I'll see you next week. So after the break, what
29:22
Speaker 1: exact Speaking of international visits, what exactly went on in Washington?
29:25
Speaker 1: We dig into the meeting between Richard Marles and JD. Vance.
29:29
Speaker 1: Also North Korean leader Kim John Uhn as I said
29:33
Speaker 1: he's heading to Beijing for a military parade with Vladimir Putin.
29:36
Speaker 1: Who else is going to be there? Daniel Andrews and
29:39
Speaker 1: Bob Carr welcome back to Victorian government. Also in confusion
29:48
Speaker 1: over bail laws. We'll talk about that shortly. Speaking of confusion,
29:52
Speaker 1: what the hell happened with Richard Miles, the Deputy Prime
29:55
Speaker 1: Minister and Defense Minister, in that recent dash to Washington
29:58
Speaker 1: and back. I mean, no one really knows why he went.
30:01
Speaker 1: It's been reported part of the reason was to pay
30:04
Speaker 1: the way for an actual meeting between Anthony Albanezi and
30:06
Speaker 1: Donald Trump. Well if that's the reason, why don't why
30:10
Speaker 1: doesn't someone just tell us that I'm going to be
30:12
Speaker 1: simple for the Prime Minister to come out and say, okay,
30:15
Speaker 1: that's what it was all about. Joining me now. Strategic
30:17
Speaker 1: Analysis Australia Director Peter Jennings, Pety, you're good at reading
30:21
Speaker 1: the tea leaves on these things. Males met JD. Vance,
30:24
Speaker 1: and he also met the Secretary of State Marco Rubio,
30:28
Speaker 1: but there's some confusion about what exactly was he doing there.
30:32
Speaker 2: Was it something to do with Aucust Do we think
30:36
Speaker 2: it should have been to do with Aucus Steve? But
30:39
Speaker 2: what we've got is the Australian National Security clown car here.
30:44
Speaker 2: No one seems to have a clear idea who's steering
30:47
Speaker 2: it or what direction it's going in. The PM now
30:50
Speaker 2: has flatly contradicted the reason that Males's office has put out,
30:54
Speaker 2: which was that it was supposed to be lining up
30:57
Speaker 2: a meeting for the Prime Minister and the President. Actually
31:00
Speaker 2: Vice President Advance would be the last person I'd go
31:03
Speaker 2: to to try and do that, because he's the one
31:04
Speaker 2: that's hardest on the allies of all of the Trump cabinet.
31:09
Speaker 2: You know, what Miles should have been talking about is
31:12
Speaker 2: how do we come to some sort of understanding with
31:15
Speaker 2: the Americans on the right level of defense spending. They
31:17
Speaker 2: want us to spend three point five We're spending just
31:21
Speaker 2: to shade over two percent of gross domestic product. We
31:24
Speaker 2: have differences of views on China, differences of views on Palestine,
31:28
Speaker 2: and I think a deep American sense of uncertainty about
31:32
Speaker 2: are we Australia able to deliver on the defense planning
31:36
Speaker 2: to have those nuclear submarines arrive. You know, these are
31:40
Speaker 2: substantive and complex issues, not the sort of thing that
31:43
Speaker 2: you can sort with a ten minute stand up conversation.
31:48
Speaker 2: And so Miles months ago should have been talking to
31:51
Speaker 2: Pete Hegseth, the US Secretary of Defense, but in a
31:54
Speaker 2: detailed way, you know, behind closed doors, not about photo opportunity.
32:01
Speaker 2: And I think what we've had this time around has
32:03
Speaker 2: just been a sense of panic and no clear understanding
32:06
Speaker 2: about what it is that Richard Miles was supposed to
32:08
Speaker 2: be doing on that trip.
32:11
Speaker 1: Prime ministers tried to laugh it off and say, look,
32:14
Speaker 1: you know what's everybody getting upset about. It was you know,
32:17
Speaker 1: we had our deputy Prime minister speaking to the Vice
32:21
Speaker 1: President of the United States. It's no big deal. But
32:24
Speaker 1: it is a big deal because Hesketh is the guy
32:27
Speaker 1: who's going to be saying very firmly to us. I
32:29
Speaker 1: presume Peter listen to you. Guys, we said you need
32:32
Speaker 1: to spend more on defense. If you're not going to
32:33
Speaker 1: spend more on defense, how are we going to pull
32:36
Speaker 1: this UCST thing off? How are we going to convince Americans,
32:39
Speaker 1: How are we going to convince Democrats and Republicans who
32:42
Speaker 1: were doubtful about this UCST thing anyway, that you guys
32:45
Speaker 1: are all in on it.
32:48
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Steph. I mean the Americans have been flagging their
32:51
Speaker 2: concerns for months. Miles first heard this from Pete Hegseth
32:55
Speaker 2: and Singapore three months ago. It seems to me we've
32:59
Speaker 2: been hearing constantly from the government there's nothing to worry about.
33:03
Speaker 2: But this trip to Washington, DC tells me that there
33:06
Speaker 2: is something to worry about. And then the other thing
33:09
Speaker 2: the PM did today was to say Will Miles wasn't
33:12
Speaker 2: really there to talk about lining up a visit with
33:14
Speaker 2: him and Trump, So he's contradicting what he is coming
33:17
Speaker 2: out of the Deputy Prime Minister's office.
33:21
Speaker 1: It's just a hot mess.
33:23
Speaker 2: And note that in all of this we've not seen
33:26
Speaker 2: Richard Miles come out in the last twenty four to
33:28
Speaker 2: thirty six hour Steve to give his version of what
33:31
Speaker 2: was going on. For a guy that likes to put
33:34
Speaker 2: himself in front of the cameras, he's been avoiding explaining
33:37
Speaker 2: that and it just makes the whole thing. Look what
33:40
Speaker 2: I think it is, which is uncoordinated, unplanned, a bit
33:43
Speaker 2: chaotic and rather panicky.
33:47
Speaker 1: Peter I nearly drove off the road today, which is
33:49
Speaker 1: dangerous when given the weather in Melbourne. But I heard
33:51
Speaker 1: on the radio that Bob Carr, former Foreign Minister in
33:54
Speaker 1: New South Wales Premier who I know pretty well, and
33:57
Speaker 1: Daniel Andrews, who I know less well, former Premier Victoria,
34:01
Speaker 1: are going to be esteemed guests at a military parade
34:04
Speaker 1: in tenam And Square, along with Vladimir Putin, Kim John
34:08
Speaker 1: Un from North Korea, and of course President Ji. What
34:13
Speaker 1: are these two thinking.
34:15
Speaker 2: There's another guest, Steve, which I checked on before coming
34:19
Speaker 2: to the show, which is that the President of Iran,
34:22
Speaker 2: Mahmoud Pajesh Khan, is going to be there as well.
34:26
Speaker 2: So it's the modern axis of evil China, Iran, Russia
34:31
Speaker 2: and North Korea, effectively the authoritarian enemies of our democracies,
34:38
Speaker 2: all at a military parade which is designed to sort
34:41
Speaker 2: of highlight the strength of Chinese military power. And they're
34:45
Speaker 2: nasty friends. So why is it that Bob Karr and
34:48
Speaker 2: Dan Andrews want to be a part of that. They
34:50
Speaker 2: should be careful that they're not going to be judged
34:53
Speaker 2: by the friends they keep. I think this is something
34:56
Speaker 2: that they should both reconsider because it's going to do
34:59
Speaker 2: damag to their domestic reputations.
35:03
Speaker 1: Well, Bob said, as if this was going to make
35:05
Speaker 1: it any better, is that I'm paying my own way
35:07
Speaker 1: to get there. And there was some strange justification that
35:10
Speaker 1: it's celebrating the end of the Chinese Japanese War. I mean, seriously,
35:15
Speaker 1: as you said, it's a gathering of the bad guys
35:20
Speaker 1: and these two are going to be paraded around there
35:22
Speaker 1: in some form as saying, look, you know, we're not
35:25
Speaker 1: that bad after all. Look who's turned up.
35:29
Speaker 2: Well, And I read the parade is also going to
35:31
Speaker 2: highlight a whole bunch of new missiles which the Chinese
35:33
Speaker 2: are developing. So there's a historical hook, but it's always
35:37
Speaker 2: got a contemporary point, and this is to actually show
35:40
Speaker 2: the effect of Chinese military power right now and the
35:44
Speaker 2: strength of their alliance with other authoritarian countries.
35:49
Speaker 1: It's a very bad look.
35:50
Speaker 2: I mean, there is no justification for an Australian political
35:54
Speaker 2: leader to be going to something like that.
35:57
Speaker 1: Peter, thank you very much. It was good to catch
35:59
Speaker 1: up with you on our Friday night program. Now the
36:02
Speaker 1: Victorian government. We've spoken a lot about bills and what
36:04
Speaker 1: new legislation tonight. They seem had a lot of backlash
36:09
Speaker 1: over the energy bills. But bail laws are the other thing.
36:12
Speaker 8: Now.
36:13
Speaker 1: The bail laws in Victoria are a complete and utter mess.
36:16
Speaker 1: They said they were going to reform them. They say, oh,
36:19
Speaker 1: they'll be tougher, that we bail test for repeat offenders.
36:22
Speaker 1: But the government has absolutely now rejected a series of
36:25
Speaker 1: amendments put up by the opposition which would have made
36:27
Speaker 1: the laws even tougher. Joining me now, Victoria's Shadow Cabinet
36:30
Speaker 1: Secretary Joe McCracken. We're told, oh, yeah, there'll be tough
36:34
Speaker 1: these bail laws. Don't worry, these young kids won't be
36:37
Speaker 1: getting bail like they are currently have been. That's not right,
36:40
Speaker 1: is it?
36:42
Speaker 10: It is a complete lie. Jacinta Allen has got a
36:45
Speaker 10: huge problem here. She doesn't have an answer for the
36:48
Speaker 10: rising crime crisis in this state. We see a youth
36:51
Speaker 10: crime crisis where offenders are getting out on bail literally
36:55
Speaker 10: hours after they've been arrested. And now wonder people are
36:58
Speaker 10: afraid to go out at night in the state. I mean,
37:01
Speaker 10: anyone would be knowing that an offender has just been
37:05
Speaker 10: put out on bail. I mean, you know, Justinto Allen
37:08
Speaker 10: just refuses to do anything about it. I mean, we've
37:10
Speaker 10: got a shortage of eleven hundred police in this state.
37:14
Speaker 10: Police officers don't even want to be out there because
37:17
Speaker 10: they know that when they arrest someone, they're just going
37:20
Speaker 10: to see them on the street a few hours later.
37:25
Speaker 1: The opposition, what would you have added to these bail
37:29
Speaker 1: changes that would have made them stronger that they rejected.
37:34
Speaker 10: Look, our policy has always been to strengthen the bail
37:38
Speaker 10: laws to ensure that there is actual consequences for actions.
37:42
Speaker 10: If you break bail, you face jail. And one of
37:45
Speaker 10: the biggest things that we want to talk about was
37:48
Speaker 10: removing the exemption for young people to just get a
37:52
Speaker 10: free pass when they get on bail. We need actual consequences,
37:56
Speaker 10: so if you commit a crime, you don't just get
37:59
Speaker 10: a free pass out of because you're under the age
38:01
Speaker 10: of eighteen. And we've seen that in our community recently,
38:04
Speaker 10: where there's been a number of instances where younger people
38:07
Speaker 10: under the age of eighteen have committed very serious offenses
38:11
Speaker 10: and they're let out on bail. And what does Justinta
38:13
Speaker 10: Alan do? She sits there and twiddles around with the
38:16
Speaker 10: edges instead of dealing with the real issues.
38:21
Speaker 1: It's in their DNA, isn't it. I mean they've been
38:23
Speaker 1: convinced by various lobby groups, including the indigenous lobby groups,
38:26
Speaker 1: that you shouldn't be putting anyone under the age of
38:29
Speaker 1: adeen as you say, but under the age of sixteen
38:31
Speaker 1: in particular behind bars. You just shouldn't do it. It's
38:34
Speaker 1: something you shouldn't do. And then you've got people having
38:36
Speaker 1: bail bailed forty five times, running around with machetes. I mean,
38:40
Speaker 1: what don't they get.
38:42
Speaker 10: I mean, the thing about machetes is they have. This
38:46
Speaker 10: is the policy of the Layogo that really gets me.
38:49
Speaker 10: They cut fifty million dollars from the police budget. They
38:52
Speaker 10: spend thirteen million dollars on machete bins. They cost three
38:56
Speaker 10: hundred and twenty five thousand dollars each. You can't tell
38:59
Speaker 10: me that that's good value for money for the Victorian taxpayer.
39:05
Speaker 1: Joe you I note you're in Ballarat. Did you hear
39:07
Speaker 1: the heckling from your office today at the Bush summit?
39:10
Speaker 10: Look, I would not like to have divened just into
39:13
Speaker 10: Alan today. She's got a lot of problems on her plate.
39:17
Speaker 10: I saw the hecklers, I saw the fire engines. But
39:20
Speaker 10: these are people that have got genuine concerns and their
39:23
Speaker 10: campaign against things like the Vicrid legislation that went through
39:26
Speaker 10: late last night in Parliament, which is an absolute disgrace,
39:30
Speaker 10: finding farmers for stopping people going.
39:33
Speaker 11: On their land.
39:34
Speaker 10: I mean they even want to charge farmers that if
39:38
Speaker 10: they don't provide identification, they're going to find them. I
39:41
Speaker 10: mean it's like farmers need a passport to be on
39:44
Speaker 10: their own land. That is an absolute disgrace. And then
39:48
Speaker 10: there's the Emergency Services tax, where farmers are being slugged
39:51
Speaker 10: thousands and thousands of dollars to face per Labour's budget
39:55
Speaker 10: black hole. I mean, it's just so wrong, especially when
39:58
Speaker 10: farmers have just been through through a drought. It's like
40:02
Speaker 10: kicking these people while they're alorrie down and they're punching
40:05
Speaker 10: down again and again and again. I mean, without farmers,
40:09
Speaker 10: we have no food in this state. I don't want
40:11
Speaker 10: you into Allen thinks, but maybe in a few years
40:14
Speaker 10: time she wants to be importing food. I certainly don't
40:16
Speaker 10: want that.
40:19
Speaker 1: No me either, and I think she got a big
40:20
Speaker 1: wake up call today. Joe thank you for that. You
40:22
Speaker 1: have a great weekend. I talked to you soon now
40:24
Speaker 1: after the break. More protests planned across our cities at
40:27
Speaker 1: the weekend. How do we find the line between freedom
40:29
Speaker 1: of speech and radicalism? Plus a flight from Bali to
40:34
Speaker 1: Brisbane which I would describe as the flight from hell.
40:38
Speaker 1: The airlines apologize, but the passages are not happy. Welcome
40:46
Speaker 1: back to Steve Price with you on Friday nights. That's
40:48
Speaker 1: bringing our Sky News contributors Caroline to us and Joe
40:51
Speaker 1: hilde Brown. Great to see you both. Joe. We'll get
40:53
Speaker 1: to this debate over the protest marches at the weekend,
40:56
Speaker 1: and I've got some real doubts about whether they are
40:59
Speaker 1: to be going head What might happen this weekend. In
41:02
Speaker 1: a second, I mean in Victoria in particular, there's four
41:05
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty police trying to find a cop killer.
41:07
Speaker 1: They're going to have to drag half of them back
41:09
Speaker 1: down to Melbourne to try and police these marchers. We'll
41:12
Speaker 1: get onto that at the moment. But Bob Carr, now
41:15
Speaker 1: we both know him well. I mean when I was
41:18
Speaker 1: on radio in Sydney, Bob would occasionally invite me up
41:21
Speaker 1: to his office when he was the premier and served
41:23
Speaker 1: me luncheon. Tell me what I was doing well and
41:26
Speaker 1: what I was not doing well. I went up there
41:27
Speaker 1: for dinner a couple of times. But he and his
41:31
Speaker 1: mate Daniel Andrews, the former Premier of Victoria, are going
41:33
Speaker 1: to a military parade in Beijing and they'll be rubbing
41:37
Speaker 1: shoulders with Jijingpin Vladimir Putin, King John Un. And now
41:41
Speaker 1: we're here from Peter Jennings, the President of Iran. What
41:46
Speaker 1: is he thinking?
41:48
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's in Say I love Bob. I've known him
41:51
Speaker 11: for many, many years. He was once my kind of
41:54
Speaker 11: gold standard of labor leader. He was very much an
41:58
Speaker 11: anti communist leader of the New South Wales Right. He
42:03
Speaker 11: was part of with Laurie Brereton and Paul Keating. He
42:06
Speaker 11: was part of a group of people who purged the
42:08
Speaker 11: Party of communist elements within it and frankly saved the
42:12
Speaker 11: party and dragged it into modern Australia and into the
42:16
Speaker 11: sensible center. Since, as often happens with politicians, after retirement,
42:23
Speaker 11: they often drift to the left, and in the case
42:26
Speaker 11: of I'm sorry to say, probably too many former labor leaders,
42:29
Speaker 11: they develop close links with China and the Chinese Communist Party,
42:34
Speaker 11: and that's what's happened here. You know, Bob is still
42:39
Speaker 11: a great man, but this is a terrible misjudgment, and
42:42
Speaker 11: I think one that he would never have made if
42:45
Speaker 11: he was actually still holding any public office in Australia.
42:48
Speaker 11: So sorry to see it, but I do still love
42:51
Speaker 11: the bloke.
42:54
Speaker 1: Carolina. I mean, for bobcast said I'm paying my own way,
42:57
Speaker 1: big deal, who cares? Who's paying for the airfair? What
43:01
Speaker 1: the hell are you doing there? And Daniel Andrews, when
43:03
Speaker 1: he was still Premier of Victoria, he made a trip
43:06
Speaker 1: to China. He took no media with him, he never
43:09
Speaker 1: told anyone when he got back what he was actually
43:11
Speaker 1: talking about. We still don't know. Freedom of information put
43:14
Speaker 1: him out by the liberal opposition, can't find out. What
43:17
Speaker 1: do these two think they're doing?
43:21
Speaker 11: Well?
43:21
Speaker 12: The irony obviously with Daniel Andrews and through COVID, all
43:25
Speaker 12: of a sudden, all those Herald Sun cartoons have finally
43:28
Speaker 12: come to life.
43:29
Speaker 1: They are no longer satire.
43:31
Speaker 12: They are really happening.
43:33
Speaker 2: I think Joe is right.
43:34
Speaker 12: I think this is just really poor judgment. I don't
43:37
Speaker 12: necessarily think that either of them are necessarily bad people
43:41
Speaker 12: or whatever, But I just don't know why you'd want
43:44
Speaker 12: to be at the same party as Putin, as Kim
43:48
Speaker 12: jong Orn and then expect to come back to Australia
43:51
Speaker 12: and have a voice that people would give credence in
43:57
Speaker 12: a country like Australia that you know, we're not perfet
44:00
Speaker 12: but we are a democracy and we're sure nothing at
44:04
Speaker 12: all light China, and I just I'm not really sure
44:07
Speaker 12: that's the sort of thing you'd want on your post
44:08
Speaker 12: political record, particularly if you want to maintain that credibility.
44:12
Speaker 1: It's worth noting all five percent.
44:16
Speaker 11: When the opposition they posted a picture of Scott Morrison
44:20
Speaker 11: with Donald Trump with the catch and it's the company
44:24
Speaker 11: you keep a very ill judged attack, or do you
44:28
Speaker 11: get the Prime Minister for having relations with the President
44:31
Speaker 11: of the United States? Now just look at the company
44:34
Speaker 11: that's being kept by some former labor luminaries. So it
44:38
Speaker 11: is a bit sorry to see you here.
44:40
Speaker 1: Well, we saw Richard, we saw Richard Miles, you know,
44:43
Speaker 1: bump into a corridor with Pete Hesketh and describe that
44:47
Speaker 1: as a meeting. Can you imagine if you were Dan
44:49
Speaker 1: or Bob and you're walking down the corridor and Vladimi
44:51
Speaker 1: is coming towards you. You either run the other way
44:54
Speaker 1: very quickly or put a bag over your head. You
44:56
Speaker 1: wouldn't want a picture of him with either of you
45:00
Speaker 1: this bush summer today, the Prime Minister was really badly heckled.
45:05
Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier that I haven't seen a PM treated
45:07
Speaker 1: that way since people refuse to shake Scott Morrison's hand
45:11
Speaker 1: when he went to Hawaiian came back in half of
45:13
Speaker 1: Australia on the East coast was on fire. I guess
45:18
Speaker 1: he has, You've got to say to him, at least
45:20
Speaker 1: he turned up, But that's the best you can say.
45:25
Speaker 12: Well, he turned up, and just since Allan, she turned
45:28
Speaker 12: up and they both got the same sort of reception.
45:30
Speaker 12: And I think this is what happens when politicians spend
45:32
Speaker 12: too much time in their own bubble, drinking their own
45:35
Speaker 12: proverbial and hanging around people who tell them how wonderful
45:38
Speaker 12: they are all the time when you actually go out
45:41
Speaker 12: there into those communities that are impacted.
45:43
Speaker 1: And Joe McCracken, who was just.
45:46
Speaker 12: Done before he summarized that all really well, you were
45:49
Speaker 12: talking about people's livelihoods, and particularly in relation to farmers
45:53
Speaker 12: where they live. This isn't just a business premises, this
45:57
Speaker 12: is also their home, so you need to underst stand that.
46:00
Speaker 12: You know, obviously there's a commercial imperative here, but there's
46:04
Speaker 12: also an emotional and a cultural imperative here as well.
46:08
Speaker 12: And people out in the country, you know, I grew
46:11
Speaker 12: up four hundred k's southeast of Perth, and they talk
46:14
Speaker 12: really straight and don't come out and try and spin
46:19
Speaker 12: the lines and the fluff and the glitter and all
46:21
Speaker 12: the rubbish that might work in the center of the
46:25
Speaker 12: big cities, because it is just not going to fly
46:27
Speaker 12: out there, and we saw today that it absolutely did
46:30
Speaker 12: not fly.
46:32
Speaker 1: Joe, I think I'm going to wake up having a
46:35
Speaker 1: nightmare tonight. I read that story about Virgin Australia and
46:38
Speaker 1: this flight back from Bali. Apparently they took off with
46:41
Speaker 1: one of the loose not working, one of the bathrooms.
46:44
Speaker 1: When they got up into the air none of them
46:46
Speaker 1: were working, and according to the reports, they forced passengers
46:50
Speaker 1: to urinate in bottles or in sinks on planes. How
46:55
Speaker 1: you do that, I've got no idea. You'd want more
46:58
Speaker 1: than a flight credit, wouldn't you from Virgin if that
47:00
Speaker 1: had happened to you.
47:02
Speaker 8: Yeah, look you would.
47:03
Speaker 11: And I flied virgin all the time. I just got
47:05
Speaker 11: an email today saying that there was a chance I
47:08
Speaker 11: might get my Gold status back, and reading that story
47:12
Speaker 11: on the goal.
47:14
Speaker 1: That that's the kind of goal that I want to see.
47:19
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think if I was Virgin, I'd be offering
47:21
Speaker 11: much more than a ticket credit. I would be offering
47:24
Speaker 11: a full refund plus some kind of you know, bonus
47:28
Speaker 11: or gift or extra credit that that gives you an
47:33
Speaker 11: indication of just how much they realize what a proverbial
47:38
Speaker 11: this has been. It's there is I think it's every
47:41
Speaker 11: plane passage's worse nightmare to be trapped in a tin
47:43
Speaker 11: can you know, at thirty thousand feet and not being
47:48
Speaker 11: able to use the bathroom on what is essentially you know,
47:51
Speaker 11: but certainly Americans would consider a long haul flight. I
47:55
Speaker 11: looked at this story and I thought, oh, Melbourne, Sydney,
47:56
Speaker 11: you could probably hold on. And then when I saw
47:59
Speaker 11: it was from Bali.
48:02
Speaker 1: With a kid or an imagine that I mean and Caroline.
48:06
Speaker 1: Of course they were all wearing bin tang singlets and thongs,
48:10
Speaker 1: which makes it even worse when you would think what's
48:12
Speaker 1: going on in the bathroom? Yeah, totally.
48:16
Speaker 12: You don't want to have anything even remotely resembling bare
48:20
Speaker 12: feet in those sorts of conditions. But you've got to
48:23
Speaker 12: think how many of them had probably got started well
48:26
Speaker 12: and truly in the lounge, so by the time they
48:29
Speaker 12: got onto the plane.
48:29
Speaker 1: That's the pint.
48:30
Speaker 12: I didn't take them too long before they needed the facilities.
48:35
Speaker 1: That's the problem, Caroline. They've you're right, they've all loaded
48:37
Speaker 1: up on beer in the lounge at Bali Airport. Oh
48:41
Speaker 1: my god, that is a nightmare. Thank you both for
48:43
Speaker 1: joining us, appreciated the world. According to Rowandine's up next,