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Why is Logos Always Good? Mastering the New Era of Innovation in Aember Skies! · Archons Corner

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  Speaker 1: Talk about the stuff to speak, and then they didn't speak.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe they just clicked the thing and didn't mean to.
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  Speaker 3: How do you really feel, Luke?
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  Speaker 1: How come we haven't started? I don't know, but what's
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  Speaker 1: going on? Everybody? I am shush, you sit down, take
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  Speaker 1: your vacation, sir. Grumps a lot, but I'm the one,
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  Speaker 1: the only the w O.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, I e the one in charge of the show.
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  Speaker 3: And you two can joined us at KFC for this exciting,
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  Speaker 3: exciting discussion.
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  Speaker 1: Can I do the intro first, where.
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  Speaker 3: You will go ahead and put people down it?
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  Speaker 4: Yep, don't read the rules section, but I want the
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  Speaker 4: only the w.
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  Speaker 1: Join near by. The normal cast of misfits. We got
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  Speaker 1: who do we got? First? The walk Jr?
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  Speaker 3: Hello, key forward, community, glad to be here and allowed
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  Speaker 3: to speak was partially spoken. Got it?
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  Speaker 4: We have the grumpiest man alive doctor sheep man.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 4: The one you know who will make it to the
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  Speaker 4: end but never fulfill your fantasy is dress Corps. Oh hi,
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  Speaker 4: dascr uh.
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  Speaker 1: That's right, ladies. I don't know he'll get you there,
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  Speaker 1: but it's smith.
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  Speaker 3: Do you prefer to be choke?
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure I guess it depends on what they're doing
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  Speaker 1: to no.
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  Speaker 3: No, no.
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  Speaker 4: Wokie, we can talk about that. I'm just saying some
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  Speaker 4: people like that kind of thing. But anyways, not much
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  Speaker 4: to go over this week. It's going to be probably
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  Speaker 4: not a short show because we don't know what those are,
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  Speaker 4: but we have things to go over. We got op
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  Speaker 4: news with Sheep. Sheep tell us about worlds. What's new
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  Speaker 4: with the world of key Forge worlds.
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  Speaker 2: They are starting to announce the events that are sponsored
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  Speaker 2: by the different groups. So we know there are Kagi yep,
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  Speaker 2: we know there's Kagi live there. When we know there's
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  Speaker 2: the Forged Creator panel, where did they announce the sheep?
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  Speaker 2: They're letting the people who did it are announcing it.
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  Speaker 1: That's weird how it's not all in one spot for
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  Speaker 1: us to find yet.
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  Speaker 2: Did you get approval for what for the thing you
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  Speaker 2: sent in?
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  Speaker 4: I believe shudder has been approved. I have no idea.
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  Speaker 4: I have not I have not approved. I might be
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  Speaker 4: destroying I have.
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  Speaker 1: Not received no.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, well take it.
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  Speaker 1: Oh he sent me questions?
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  Speaker 3: What about our bachelor party and bachelorette party.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't think that was on the approved list.
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  Speaker 3: Oh okay, okay, So this that's outside of our normal.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so we have a bachelor party somewhat planned in
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  Speaker 4: true AC fashion, we've made plans but written nothing down.
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  Speaker 2: Expected minimal delivery.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I mean it really depends, right, It could be
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  Speaker 4: a lot of talk, and you know, Emperor Emperor recou
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  Speaker 4: Go goes home with a weird tribal face tattoo. It's
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  Speaker 4: all these possible and can happen when you hang out
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  Speaker 4: with the crew. We all so could just all wind
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  Speaker 4: up in a hot tub really awkwardly together. That's also like.
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  Speaker 2: I think it depends.
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  Speaker 1: You said they were gonna be girls here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think all depends how trashed and awful we
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  Speaker 2: feel after Sydney scrubbed revenge party. Oh yeah, and it's like,
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  Speaker 2: yes day two, everybody's gonna be like, I'm just going.
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  Speaker 4: To bed the dog right, hair of the dog. Just
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  Speaker 4: like back in the saddle, y'all need to learn to
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  Speaker 4: hold your liquor. Though, No, what do you mean, no,
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  Speaker 4: go harder? You didn't go hard enough right exactly? So
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  Speaker 4: I don't understand like how we all feel. I feel
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  Speaker 4: like we just need to get back on the saddle
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  Speaker 4: and just keep going.
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  Speaker 2: You didn't go hard enough the night before. If you
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  Speaker 2: can even think about it, but you too.
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  Speaker 4: Could be a part of Emperor Ricu's bachelor party. Does
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  Speaker 4: about this? I believe so, I believe it was in KFC.
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  Speaker 4: Roosevelt mild if you're in our discord, Yes, for those
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  Speaker 4: of you joining our discord did change a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: It's far the better. I know old people won't like it.
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  Speaker 4: She hates it because he doesn't like anything.
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  Speaker 2: I know about it, at least at all before things change.
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  Speaker 4: It really it changed, not really a ton, but it's
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  Speaker 4: it's it's a okay, you'll be fine. Everyone will live here,
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  Speaker 4: You'll survive. I've just given I've given everyone more autonomy
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  Speaker 4: over the items that they want to see, as opposed
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  Speaker 4: to just needing to see everything.
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  Speaker 1: So you're welcome.
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  Speaker 2: So you're saying we added an OnlyFans section.
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  Speaker 4: I got a click that's the hidden section. May or
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  Speaker 4: may not want to click. It depends on if if
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  Speaker 4: the Wookie fills that that vice for you or not.
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  Speaker 3: So on different news, it looks like KFC will have
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  Speaker 3: over one hundred people there already. So great job, We're
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  Speaker 3: we're moving along. My friends.
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  Speaker 1: How you guys all find these numbers?
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  Speaker 3: Like?
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  Speaker 1: Where is this number? Well?
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  Speaker 2: He walked us bought a ticket.
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  Speaker 1: I did.
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  Speaker 4: I bought my ticket as well. I didn't get like
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  Speaker 4: a number. You just pay very good attention, yeah, or.
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  Speaker 1: You actually buy a ticket. I got my confirmation email
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  Speaker 1: right here.
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  Speaker 3: It's his ticket details. It says a little red ticket.
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  Speaker 3: It says number, and then mine just said one fourteen.
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  Speaker 3: And I apologize, but last three weeks have been super
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  Speaker 3: busy being out of town, and then actually we were
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  Speaker 3: out of town, out of state last weekend for a
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  Speaker 3: soccer tournament. I had conferences tonight. So I'm just happy
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  Speaker 3: to be able to have this. And you know, as
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to be talking on a cast with an event,
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  Speaker 3: I should probably you know, show up for this event.
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  Speaker 3: Never mind, I'm really I'm really excited for the event.
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  Speaker 1: They have sent another one to me. Yes, I was
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  Speaker 1: one thirteen yep. M So I'm just looking through the
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  Speaker 1: KFC Roosevelt Mild channel looking at other things that are
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  Speaker 1: gonna be there. Looks like there's gonna be some Keymander
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  Speaker 1: events run by Fabulous Ing and June. I just saw that, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there's going to be what else we got here Philly?
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  Speaker 1: No one is going to do some homebrew key forge
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  Speaker 1: Adventure mars z Base. I don't know if he's paying
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  Speaker 1: royalties to Big Z or he's just like Big Z's
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  Speaker 1: not going to defend his copyright of that letter at
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  Speaker 1: this point. At this point, he don't. Yeah, yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: think I think let's go for it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think they're gonna put nightmare Mode in just
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  Speaker 3: as the Fall of House corganized Nightmare Mode just announced
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  Speaker 3: or is it just gonna be straight Probably we'll put
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  Speaker 3: it out there right like, yeah, I assume so, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: they posted that that's now on the forge Fire right,
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  Speaker 3: which I mean, I personally don't that's not a thing
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  Speaker 3: I'm interested in itself, but I you know, I am
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  Speaker 3: interested to see what they will do in the future
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  Speaker 3: with print on demand, forge Fire for key Forge. I
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  Speaker 3: think there's possibilities there, So purely from that sense, I'm interested.
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  Speaker 3: I think what's exciting is that, regardless of what you're
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  Speaker 3: interested in, there's a whole smattering of events that are happening,
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  Speaker 3: and so to make sure that you participate, you're going
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  Speaker 3: to have something that you can do. In fact, right now,
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  Speaker 3: you're really going to have to be a little bit
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  Speaker 3: more focused because there's just a ton of events which
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  Speaker 3: is great to see.
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  Speaker 1: You can also now buy Vault Assault from Forge Fire,
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  Speaker 1: so there are now actual things happening.
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  Speaker 2: At forge to get those at gen Con.
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  Speaker 4: Yep, and there are five bucks ten.
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  Speaker 1: Dollars for the what is it hard mode Fall of House,
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  Speaker 1: Gormangeist whatever we're calling us, Yeah, nightmare. I've yet to
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  Speaker 1: have a reason to play Belt Assault. Oh well we're
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  Speaker 1: going to KFC. What better reason other than to drink
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  Speaker 1: heavily and play with three of your best friends. There
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  Speaker 1: you go.
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  Speaker 4: I still hate that it's three to five players. Why
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  Speaker 4: could you not just make it four? Every other game
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  Speaker 4: four players?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Why because it's only for three to five sheep,
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  Speaker 1: three to five? Well, but six players. You just play
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  Speaker 1: key Forge honestly four players, and so that's why, like
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  Speaker 1: it's really three.
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  Speaker 4: Where you just play key Forge with one by yeah,
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  Speaker 4: maybe five and five you just play KeyForge with one
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  Speaker 4: by two.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, so we do like when at my store,
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  Speaker 1: right when it's not like a official events the right thing,
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  Speaker 1: but like if it's not like the pre release we
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  Speaker 1: just did or like a big event of some sort,
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  Speaker 1: we generally just like, all right, you got here last,
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  Speaker 1: so everybody else is playing and then you're gonna you
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  Speaker 1: get the bucks challenge. The first person who wins got
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  Speaker 1: it right, and then that person has to wait five
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  Speaker 1: minutes for the next day, and then after that first
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  Speaker 1: person has to wait like it's pretty smooth, yep yep,
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  Speaker 1: yeh yeh.
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  Speaker 4: All right, but now that we've covered uh how how
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  Speaker 4: Scorman Geist, nightmare Mode and all that jazz. Let's see,
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  Speaker 4: I gotta I gotta go hold on. I gotta go
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  Speaker 4: back to the list to make sure I didn't miss anything.
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  Speaker 1: All right, pre release, well that was it. Yeah, we
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  Speaker 1: did pre releases. Uh so we ran the prelease at
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  Speaker 1: our store. I was pretty excited. We had, uh some
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  Speaker 1: some new players show up, which was awesome. We had
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  Speaker 1: fourteen players and including Don came up from from Baltimore
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  Speaker 1: from the Bay Witches, so it was cool to see
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  Speaker 1: him and we uh wait, a good time. Lots of
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  Speaker 1: lots of fun stuff was was opened. Cool house pips
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  Speaker 1: were placed around the The winning deck had a crazy
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  Speaker 1: dispod with recurring the ability to to recur tryhards and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: It was pretty brutal and uh it was uh it
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  Speaker 1: was pretty cool. See so it was it was a
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  Speaker 1: good time held by all.
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  Speaker 4: All right, well, I believe you have to order pre
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  Speaker 4: released from ASTHMA day.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so they apparently sent that out as notice to stores,
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  Speaker 2: but my store never acknowledged it. Yeah, like we never
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  Speaker 2: knowledgeably saw that bit of email.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. We actually didn't buy release packs because we had
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  Speaker 1: the game found stuff at the store and so we
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  Speaker 1: just had everybody already has a Skyboard pin, right, because
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  Speaker 1: that's all that's in the pre release pack. There was
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  Speaker 1: no there was nothing to chase after. Yeah, so we
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  Speaker 1: just played three. We actually, what we did is we
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  Speaker 1: said everybody can buy one of the store branded decks
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  Speaker 1: and then two regular Amber Sky's decks, So so everybody
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  Speaker 1: who played got to walk away with the games keep.
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  Speaker 3: I actually I like that move dress because I think
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  Speaker 3: the store branded deck is a nice unique item to
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  Speaker 3: be able to walk away with. So I do enjoy that.
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  Speaker 3: That's a nice And.
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  Speaker 1: Then we had for prizing, we had a couple of
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  Speaker 1: those and a couple of mm mmm or whatever more mutation.
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  Speaker 2: So that, uh, that has not got a very warm
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  Speaker 2: reception anywhere, has it.
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  Speaker 1: The Well, see the problem is that so they made
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  Speaker 1: it pretty exclusive, but that is fairly rare. But then
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  Speaker 1: like I've opened too, so far and I've not opened
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  Speaker 1: there's no gigantic.
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  Speaker 3: Well we are, we were in oh, I think that
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  Speaker 3: we're now in seven or eight out of the first
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  Speaker 3: box and there hasn't been a gigantic there, And multiple
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  Speaker 3: other people have opened a full box with no gigantic,
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  Speaker 3: And I think that's where you know you're looking at
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  Speaker 3: the gigantics as being that chase item. We've increased the
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  Speaker 3: amount of them to per house and so I would
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  Speaker 3: have expected to see more of them, and to not
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  Speaker 3: see them at all as very disappointing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I already have what I think I
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  Speaker 1: bought five hundred yep mm from the fire sale plus
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  Speaker 1: all the MM I already had, right, so like I
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  Speaker 1: have a lot of MM, don't don't need more random.
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  Speaker 4: Sure panic, I'll make the bet. If AS makes top eight.
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  Speaker 1: I will release an old I will I will personally
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  Speaker 1: release an Arcon's Corner OnlyFans, but if they make a
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  Speaker 1: top eight, if it makes a top eight, not a
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  Speaker 1: world Sealed has to make ARCon top eight, arcan okay, yep.
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  Speaker 4: As, I will give it that eventually, probably will see
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  Speaker 4: some maybe see some Alliance Shenanigans because DT did it.
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  Speaker 4: So Yeah, I mean logically, eventually ember Skies will do it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, somebody's gonna have like because we know there's lockout decks, right,
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  Speaker 1: and so in Alliance you can more easily.
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  Speaker 4: The lockouts you've been invited. Right click on yourself and
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  Speaker 4: hit enter stage. Hello all right, Panic, Hello, we do
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  Speaker 4: for you.
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  Speaker 1: Hello. Hello. You guys are talking about more mass mutation,
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  Speaker 1: and I had this thought, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we hear you. Just what we want it that way.
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  Speaker 1: So continue on.
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  Speaker 5: The on the topic of not as many gigantics being
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  Speaker 5: found as people would expect, I wonder if they adjusted
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  Speaker 5: the algorithm because it's supposed to be like the re
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  Speaker 5: release of mass mutation. So you know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 5: mass mutation deck be identical to an existing mass mutation deck.
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  Speaker 1: Can anybody hear me? Yes, okay, we can hear you.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody can hear panic. So so the uh so, Josh
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  Speaker 1: in our forum, at some point I think I remember
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  Speaker 1: this correctly, had said something in the effect of like, oh, well,
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  Speaker 1: there's so many more, so your chances of getting them
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  Speaker 1: are a lot higher, which which is true, I'm sure,
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  Speaker 1: but based on just based on the way he said it,
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  Speaker 1: I assumed all there was was uh, they just added
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  Speaker 1: more rare.
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  Speaker 2: Grafton are new in that set? I have to anyways.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you can certainly get a deck in mass
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  Speaker 2: mutation that or more masks that you would not be
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  Speaker 2: able to identify that it is a more mutation deck
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  Speaker 2: from the hard list alone. Now, if it actually would
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  Speaker 2: allow it to print an identical deck with you know,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like and what's the chances that the enhancements
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  Speaker 2: would land the same? It's pretty low?
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  Speaker 1: But like, right, sorry, I don't know if that came
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  Speaker 1: in at that. I think so well, they have a
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  Speaker 1: they know the existing deck lists, right, It's not like
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  Speaker 1: even though they lost, that doesn't.
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  Speaker 2: Mean they're doing that comparison out of set, right, Like
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  Speaker 2: when you make a deck in in in amberse guys,
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  Speaker 2: you don't need to compare it to any previous set
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  Speaker 2: because you know it's impossible for that deck to duplicate
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  Speaker 2: anywhere else.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna just make a bold assumption that they're
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  Speaker 1: following certain standard software practices, which I know maybe not
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  Speaker 1: a good assumption. I won't agree with this, but my
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: question is, can y'all hear me?
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  Speaker 2: Now?
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: Could you hear me?
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, can you hear you the whole time. You
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  Speaker 3: keep cutting everyone off.
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  Speaker 4: No, no, because I couldn't as soon as Panic joined
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  Speaker 4: for whatever reason, like my whole thing went dead and
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  Speaker 4: I couldn't hear anybody.
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  Speaker 1: Well, hopefully you got what we have been saying, because
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  Speaker 1: I have Panic's been great. Yeah, yeah, yep, yep. Thanks.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 5: I was curious, So I assume, assuming like you could
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  Speaker 5: land all the same enhancements, could it be possible that
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  Speaker 5: more a more mutation deck is the same. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: this is the first time they've done in repeat sets, Like,
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  Speaker 5: when are we going to get a character tighting?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, it could happen, but the chances with identical is
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  Speaker 2: near zero. And do they actually have a thing to
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  Speaker 2: present duplicate deck list? I mean, you know they have
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  Speaker 2: it for within set.
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  Speaker 1: So in theory they should they should be able to
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  Speaker 1: do something like take a hash of the of what
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  Speaker 1: cards are in set or in the deck right, and
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: they should be able to store that as like the
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  Speaker 1: unique hash of that deck. And in theory they should
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: be able to easily. You are giving them shack too
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  Speaker 1: much credit that that hash right is not already allocated
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  Speaker 1: to a deck right, and you should be able to
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  Speaker 1: detect collisions there. Now there's a lot of ifs in there, right,
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  Speaker 1: if they're actually following a practice like that, and if
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  Speaker 1: they didn't with they added the cards, change the card
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  Speaker 1: numbers around or something, do something where you wouldn't actually
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  Speaker 1: know that you're creating an identical deck because you've just
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  Speaker 1: by changing the card numbers or something, you've created a
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  Speaker 1: scenario where it doesn't know that it's the same. So
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  Speaker 1: who knows.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'd only have two decks here for more
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  Speaker 3: mass mutations. Actually, the second one has a phenomenal logo
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  Speaker 3: set that I'm very excited to be able to play.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: But what immediately jumped out at me. I had an
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: untamed suite that had a new common card, so racketeel
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: If you've not seen it, it's two Power, Untamed Beast, Mutant, Elusive,
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: Hazardous one play after Reap, choose to two up to
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: two creatures, shuffle each chosen creature into its owner stack,
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  Speaker 3: and it's coming in the common slot. So that's what
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  Speaker 3: really jumped out as being something different and unique. I
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  Speaker 3: actually really like this with the play after Reap, what
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  Speaker 3: it can do for disruption, for cycling your own solid
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: cards that you want to play effect and for your
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: opponents to send them back because it's you know, to
• 20:22
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• 20:26
  Speaker 3: just by clicking on DK you have the search engines
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: for build your Champion, for Untamed, digging up the Monster,
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: h to miss Gigantic. So those are your three new
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: search cards.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: We're not talking about mass mutation right now.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: No, but like I think if you're looking, you got
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: the new Gigantic of Titanic bumble Bird, and then they
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: actually reprinted Save the Pact, which was in coda, which
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: is in a way, and then here in more mass mutation.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: So I thought that was interesting. But that's not all, no,
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: But like, but if your looking, they're very very very similar.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: So I don't know. I feel with the Gigantics and
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: with the extra search cards, I would expect to higher amounts,
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: Like that's what we're looking for. That's exciting, But I
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: haven't heard anyone really stirring up. And maybe it's because
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: we have three sets out at the same time, but
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: maybe it's just because, let's be honest, talk isn't lighting
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: the world on fire.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: Either, Ah, yeah, it is, you're not ye, yeah?
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: I all, I agree more on that, but I'm saying
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: like more mass mutations has really taken the back seat.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: It's pretty exclusive for the different stores, but it's just
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: you're not getting the high mounts. I don't know. I
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: think it would be fun to have two gigantics consistently
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: coming out. I don't know, at least one I think
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: would be more appropriate. But it's it's missing.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: A lot right now.
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: So it's going to change with more man hits Hits uh.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: The Crucible.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, then you'll see the new big creatures because people
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: just want to play the new big creatures.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: I know. But again, if you listen to people who've
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: opened up items, it's not like there's a.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Ton of casual, non mega competitive people who want to
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: play just the new gigantic creatures, whether they're good or bad.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: There's all those people keep queuing up in casual every day.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: I agree with you, sheep, But what I'm saying is one,
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: there aren't a ton of these decks available, and we're
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: not seeing that there's a play online. They're all available,
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: but what we see this with certain decks that will
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: come back, but unfortunately, I don't know, I'm just not
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: seeing a lot of people like excited, like hey, I
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: pulled this new I mean I want to pull a gigantic.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: I'm not seeing it.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: What I'm seeing online, That's what I'm saying. Like, I'm
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: not seeing much love for it.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: And when you have multiple sets, you lose out on
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: some of that energy because well it's just not as exciting.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: It's not as exciting as other because the good tokens
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: and talk are more exciting than you're low tanta opening
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: a bad.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: Well, we had multiple people when it was actually offered
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: for our locals who simply said, nope, no, thank you.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: I haven't bought one. I have no mass.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: I actually have one plus, so I've only opened one.
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: I have two. They were both poopy. I have opened
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: now for Talk. They were all poopy.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Well you haven't opened to go to hamber Skies because well,
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: you won't even open them.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: I opened is fun to open like.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: House and hands AOA again, No, this is so much
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: like playing aoay a. Given.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: Since since we were talking about mediocre logo speed, right,
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: it's it's okay.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: It's not great logo speed. It's mediocre logo speed. The
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: steel steals almost just like the better half of Shadows, right,
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: Like there's red life and Steel, just like we used
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: to have Team t P and Ronnie and some recursion
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: stuff to make that happen again and again, and that
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: was okay. Like it's not that it's bad, but it's
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: just like that and none Otherwise you're just playing a
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: bunch of creatures that have either mediocre effects or are
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: which level Oh my god you got to deal with, right, well,
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: so how this set plays.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: But that's all right. So so when I think back
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: to AOA, I guess that's not what I think about.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: I think about low Ember Control, which threw in this
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: damn set. But I might have opened all stuff in
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: the way, decks and tons of sets, right, But like,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's like this set has been garbage.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: I actually I think I think your Amber Control is okay.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: I don't think it's great. I don't think it's anywhere
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: near as bad. It's I think that the CEO. Yeah,
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: I think the c is where you're really at what
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: what we have found. I don't know we were talking
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: about this, but I think where Amber Skies really has
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: potential to run is when you have your house enhancement
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: pips that fall on specific cards.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: That are game stuff happens but.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: Well, I have to share because I did actually crack
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: my decks yesterday. I needed it before conferences and you
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: get to see this. I I did need a little
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: bit of a fix here. I actually thought it was
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: a very interesting deck from Tuesday and this was for
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: them one of those mass mutations, more and more mass mutations.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: Here the triple M, triple Eclectic Inquiry, Lethologica with a
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: capture PIP, auto encoder, Mutagenic Serum, Universal key lock, Chronos,
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: infomorph NOBU Dynamo, and double q mex with enhanced draw
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: PIP on one of them. Like, that's that's a house,
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: boys and girls. That that that's got some some movements,
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: and it's got some movement, but it's not doing anything.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: It's it falls into the traditional like it's gonna move cars.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: But what are your other two houses? How are they?
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: No?
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: They weren't good I remember seeing.
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: So so basically you open a deck with one good house,
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: which doesn't do anything for the deck.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: But I actually, I actually think the disc isn't that bad.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: But we'll play it, we'll have some fun. And I
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: think that's where all these sets are at right now.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: But uh, you know, there are some definitely broken things
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: when your house enhancement pips fall on specific cards.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: So yeah, we're gonna talk about one of that right
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: away in set to make a difference.
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: But let's talk about our somebody please pronounce it our snometer,
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: our our cinemameter, are.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: Some pronominated acre areenomen our conom whatever.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: This is our phenomenor the card that all the important
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: text isn't on the actual printed card. Yeah.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: This card that just says during your opponent's turn, each
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: time they play it, and that's it.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Play a car, Yeah, they play a card, they lose
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: a number.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's not what the card says when you
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: get it out of a deck.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it just hangs and then you just like yeah,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: you go to time.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: Error.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: It is also enhanced with two logos pips.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so this card during your opponent's next turn, each
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: time they play a card, they lose one. You play
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: a creature, you lose one, You play an actually then
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: amber pip. It's a wash. This just in logos is
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: really is really difficult to play against. But as we
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: were just getting too as Ewok was going, I have
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: played against a few of these where they have a
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: second house enhancement on them, which means two out of.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: Three turns you're losing.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: You're losing Amber. And if they have mediocre board control
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: or your deck isn't creature based, it's nigh impossible to beat,
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: assuming their deck does anything else and you don't have
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: some kind of something that lets you key chat for free.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Right there, there are coarse things and hard are that
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: beat it. But without it, like it just shuts things down.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: It's it is wretched. And when we were talking about
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: the Shard of Change, I've played against a couple of
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: Shart of Change decks that are enhanced with this and
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: Shart of Changes enhanced into diss which means they're replaying
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: some very powerful.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: Actions like a rise now like clipped wings. Mm, well
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: but but clipped wings, Like there's a couple actions that
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: just make it ridiculous.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: Just recurring ritual of tognass and just pushing amber super hard.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Like there is all kinds of stuff like one dust
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: imp and one ritual of thognath. And if you can
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: cycle let every turn with a change. It's saying, but
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: we're talking about arkanometer right now, and this one is oppressive.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: I actually think this between this card and change. There
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: is enough amber push and potentially enough steel in the
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: set that one of these cards house enhanced or God forbid,
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: a deck with both of the house enhanced is arc
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: unworthy and like it's it's kind of like playing against
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: Heart of the Four stuff where it's like, if you
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: don't have hard r you're just kind of watching yourself
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: lose and it's and it's sad. So this is this
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: after having some experience with amber Skuy's, this is where
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: I think Amber Skuys lives. It's if it's it's kind
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: of like playing a way, did you get one of
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: the broken combo bits? Do you have gang or not?
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: Or martial generosity, key abduction? No, well, you know, maybe
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: you have an egzoom Ronnie loop or something. There's some
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: other stuff that worked over there, but you're basically down
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: to a couple of things that were really really good.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: I think that's where amber Skuy's is looking to me
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: as well. Like, and it's already like even in the
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: number of decks we've seen opened, there are these decks
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: that are quite painful to play against.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: There's double arcanometer decksmal arcanometer decks, so there you're gonna
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: lose two each time you.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Play a park.
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: If you have your dream Amber Sky's Logos pod, what
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: are the other two houses need to be?
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Uh? Dis and mm hmm, it's it's got to be
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Skyborne for the steal. Well be because if you're locking them,
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you need to steal right, So
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: you you probably.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: Want because it gives you board control, steel, Yeah, and
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: potentially because art is actually just fine, like you'd be
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: happy to have. Yeah, well, if you're playing logos a
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: bunch your head, Yeah, that's true.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: There is a little bit for cycling on Geistoid too.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: I definitely think this is is my top pick, but
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: I think that third house offers some options between ECUADN.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: I mean it's definitely not because is like get three
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: caps riots or throw it away.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: Which is which is possible.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: It is pretty good. That's one of the that's one
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: of those like witch level creatures I'm talking about. It
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: hits the board, you have to answer it or they
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: can really push pretty hard often and Darple it's one
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: of those other ones that is crazy, like what I
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: did the other night playing Uh, what's what's the one
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: from gr the Star Alliance, it's like, yeah, what's that
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: creature in there? And Star Alliance where you can scrap
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: it and ready and use or when you play it,
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: neighbors get to be used. Yeah, yeah, ray is and
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: then like I laid that down on one end of
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: my board, fought with seven creatures to go to Haunted
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: to then be able to go back into looping with
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: you know, haunted bassed cards like narpl it's the same thing.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: Once it lands, you can fight your whole board down
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: or yeah, like cause if you kill the creature next
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: to it, the next creature gains the versatile and keeps going.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: It does what what Archimedianes was supposed to do, right,
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: It can fold the whole board if you need it too.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I still think that that is where it should
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: grant it at the first time. I don't like the
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: idea for it to continue to reap over but it
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: is a fun effects.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but having like stupid little tokens where at the
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: start of the turn it's creature, it's this creature's neighbor's
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: game is a level of tracking that doesn't benefit It's
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: more fun to have the big place.
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: So we're making us a five or six off the bat.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: Oh six, this is a sex off with the.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: Double logos enhancements. Yes, this is a six.
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, this is one of the animated in the Amber Skies. No,
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: I know, spontaneous awakening is.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: No animating force. I'm pretty sure is not.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: But it is it is in set.
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: Okay, then definitely a logos equoedon geistoid shard deck would
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: be incredible with the achronometers mm hmm.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: By playing that.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, oh oh my god.
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: You just mill out your deck until you get everything
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: you needed for logos and then win the game.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: Okay, so let's say any cheat and win the game
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: on top of you, we're only half four.
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: You can pull the corner the Market and keep cycling
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: that over and over again.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah. That's the other thing that does exist in the
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: set is corner of the Market loops. That is like
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: that is just called we didn't play test this enough.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: That's degenerate.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is just like one two. You can have
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: it and just be like I've just won the game
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: and you can do nothing and you're like.
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: It enhanced corner the Market with in here somewhere do that.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it exists, Yeah.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: Exist, We've seen it. Oh, anyway, I put it in
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: a six. Let's keep it moving. You know, we only
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: have another ninety minutes to go.
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: Captain Nemo, he's a four power cyborg science test after fight,
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: destroy an artifact and a creature.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: Okay, Like this is one of the things people were
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: talking about. There is a lot more r in the set.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: This is crappy are, like what's his name from Untamed
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: back in the day. This is russn Are. But you
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: also get to destroy a creature. This is another one
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: where it's double non optionals, so like you have to sometimes. Uh,
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: I'm happy this is a rare because having multiple copies
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: of this would be probably bad.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, what is having one copy of this.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: A solid three two? I don't know. He's whatever Russnauer was.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: His improvement of also destroying a creature is not good enough.
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: Well, but it's, as you said earlier, it has to happen,
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: so he doesn't.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, he did too.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't mind it at a at a rare.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: I don't mind this as much. It was Russ not common,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: was real annoying.
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: Yes, well this is still real annoying, but now you
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: can just have multiple two.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's not many ways to use it on play
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: out of logos right, like none, So yeah, I mean
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: you'd have to have a well with your double R chronometer.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: You can enhance your some other card let's see it
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: with logos to let you do it.
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: But yeah, two it is and pre in charge pipa
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: Vember every time you play it, play for je a
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: key at plus six Ember or current costs for plus
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: six reduce the total combined numbers of cards, and both
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: players archives discard each player's archives.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: So this is like that anti gr thing. If you
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: can hold an archive this against a Winds deck really
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: now against a.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: Wins I know is wins in set no no, but
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: against against.
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: Gr against the current act of matter, you can get
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: a legacy in tokens of change.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Winds would be an enabler for this card.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: Gotcha.
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: This plus also the unique that comes with Titan Centry. Yes,
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: so you can between the two of those. Titan Centry
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: can lock people's archives up until you get to imperi
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: in charge.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: So here it is five power Titans Entry Scientists. Cyborg
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: players cannot take their archives into their hands during their
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: choose a house step play after reap choose a player
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: put a random card from that player's hand into their archives.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: So yes, it is a creature. But five powers solid
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: and it like they got no chance to take their
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: archive on the turn after do you play this card right?
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: So you're guaranteed one turn of disruption.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: I've also seen imperium charge is quite effective with the
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: with the Z card. When we get to.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: It, what I will what I will say about transfer, Yeah,
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: what I will say abouts or cards Titan Century is
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: realize players cannot take their archives, so that means you
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: will not be able to take your archives too. So
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: if Titan Century is out and you have archives, sorry,
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: it's not going away. That is that is a trigger
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: that had been missed at our locals and something to
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: watch out for.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: And the other thing when you're thinking about a lot
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: of the set is the archiving's fairly random. Yeah, and
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: this in this set there's not a lot of not
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: a lot of your choosing what gets archived. There's a few.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: I think like this.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: These two cards in combination are either a five or six.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: They're both strong cards, they're both very live in the
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: current meta.
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: M h.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: I put it out a five. I don't know if
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: that's a six.
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: Time I find myself just playing imperiod charge just to
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: knock out their archives. Even if I don't have nearly
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: enough for the key sheets, I can still Titan Centry
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: knock out a card from their hands and then have
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: them discarded.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: Yes, and that's what I see in Casania, and that
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: just minus the.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: Amber feel very good. It is so good.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: No, I think you.
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: Think it's a six because you've been getting your ass
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: whooped by Winds of Death lately. Anything not playing Wins
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: of Death. I mean, yeah, it's fine, but it's not.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: As it's not a card though, and the other one
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: like it's a serious problem for fraud. I can't use
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: my archives like, I gotta be super careful about anything
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: I put in there now, I gotta go to a
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: dub par strategy. Like a lot of good decks are
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: using our gives.
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: I agree that a lot of good decks. I think
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: that you have the key cheat. The key chie is
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: not what we care about. It's that second line discard
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: each player's archives. I just I don't. I don't see
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: it as a.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: Six connective transfer or whatever is in the set, like,
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: and that's a common This is not that expensive of
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: a key cheet often.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: Basically a plus two. It's going to hit plus.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: Anything else that was our give because there are other
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: things that archive. I I think this stuff is a six.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: I think you're going to see dex playing this and
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: they're able to trigger on ourselves. This is another one
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: that doesn't purge as well, so you can effectively loop
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: this junk.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: I do see that it does not loop. I still
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: had it at a four. I don't see it as
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: being that six. I could be up to it.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: It's got two really strong powers, and the linked card
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: can disrupt your opponent and get you that win right
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: from winning.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: Yes, I want this in my deck. Like this is
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: a card where like if I was to be sat
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: down said build your deck, I think these cards would
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: be in it. Yep, actually I think you'd be building
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: your deck around this card.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: Well, actually probably the first card we talked about. But yes,
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: this one too.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: Well no, I mean like Arkinometer is just giving you
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: the time to loop the damn thing three times. Yeah, okay,
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: that's not winning. Arcanometer is not winning you the game.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: It's just giving you time to win the game. You
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: still have to have a way to win, Like, that's
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: the thing. With arcanometer, like a bad As deck with arcainometer,
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: I'm still gonna be it with fraud just by building
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: out and looping and.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: In you're gonna key sheet.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: You're gonna at some point, right, Like I can get
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: that done, Like good decks can still do that stuff.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: Arkinometer alone is not a game win Imperium charge looping.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: Can be, or logo s pips could be. How are
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: you looping the charge? Though?
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: Well, you got to have something that makes it something right, right,
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: Like we're back to talking about somewhere remembrance.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: No, I'm not saying it's not possible. I am asking that.
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: Like the reason I didn't put it at six, I
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: know you can loop it, but the reason I didn't
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: put it at six is because all the looping is
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: kind of slow and off house.
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: But what we're looking at is individual cards, like the
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: whole idea for a Z scores on this car here
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: and what what is there?
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: Individual cars? But you're also have to else in the
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: set and how the metas played out.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: And I correct, I think the meta is strong for
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: your archive. I think the ability and.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: Seist does make me not want to win, right, It
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: makes it makes me think about it because then I go, oh, ship,
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: if that's in hand, I just get it.
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: It's possible, I just get See. What drives me nuts
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: is this is a freak key but doesn't purge. What
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: the beep?
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: This also doesn't have a minimum right, This doesn't like
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: I'm saying archives, it's freakys.
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: So we nerve ecto charge because that's too much, and
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: it purges itself. But imperium charge doesn't get purged and
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: has no minimum.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: Imperian charge is much harder to do.
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: Not if you are going up against a gr deck,
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: which there's a good chance you are. It's there's a
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: really good chance that it needs that wins combo.
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: I just don't. I don't.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: In sealed this is probably not a six, right, just
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: as in a deck with no support.
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: No, it's in sealed, it's still a five. It's still a.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: Still scored as a six, because this is we're talking
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: about top end stuff, and this is the thing that's
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: going to be in top end stuff.
• 44:02
  Speaker 5: Well, I go with so much more dangerous because of
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: the supporting house around it. It's so much easier to
• 44:07
  Speaker 5: get back and find and milliar deck four. I don't
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: think they's logo is quite has the same support.
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: All right round the table.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: This is Luke not doing his job. That's what this
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: card is. This is Luke what you got? I put
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: it in a five dras cord.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: What you got?
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: Six?
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: Panic? What you got?
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: Four?
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: And I moved it up to a five. So we're
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna list there as a five and we're moving on.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: Let's do it, boys, not a list six power one
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: armor ship. I skipped Minerva's Wings in my bad lot
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: of Lot of Cold Medication. Minervous Wings is an upgrade
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: pip a number. Every time you play it. This creature
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: cannot fight or reap and gains action draw two cards.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: Is this something you play on something else's creature.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: No, I think you do right what you like.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: If they have a super good reaping creature, I could
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: see putting this on it.
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's more I meant to hurt for sure.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: On your cards is not a bad action. It's an
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: okay action.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: Like it's I can pay one umber, yeah guards, which
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: if you were given the choice to pay one amber
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: to draw two cards, you would often take that. Yes, yeah,
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: I mean like most Commo do acts would be like
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: yes please, Like that's basically it's just a little ship
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: of Martian generosity, right, yes, but.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: Martian generation is good because you can do a ton.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: But you also can't fight. Like, I'm still not a
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: big fan of this card. This is like a due.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: I thought I was ready and used card in logos.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: I am wrong. I'm too bad.
• 45:53
  Speaker 5: You can't play this one with the animator give a
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: creature an action, so when you turn into an artifact,
• 45:59
  Speaker 5: you could just draw a bunch of cards because it's
• 46:03
  Speaker 5: it doesn't even give you a number. It's it's not
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: very good.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: Oh because the yeah, the upgrades fall off when you
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: turn them into Yeah, yeah.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: No, they got rid of that rule. Upgrades no longer
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: fall off.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: What it's no, Yeah, they got rid of that span Okay, wow, Okay,
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: that changes you.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: Don't fall off and this creature but this creature it's
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: no longer a creature, so therefore doesn't have that This.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: Doesn't upgrade because it's not a creature anymore.
• 46:38
  Speaker 5: Still cost the benefit on this card, but like a
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: one and a half.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want no halves.
• 46:53
  Speaker 5: Maybe just for the fact that you can disable an
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: enemy creature's abilities and you're but you're still giving them draws.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: And that's bad. Probably one.
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: Hey sheep, how would fraud like extra draws?
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: When do I ever have a creature? I'm actually gonna use.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: So one it is, That's why I put it in.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: I didn't like it. I don't one.
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: I don't like what. I don't like it on your creatures.
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: You know where I like it? In the shredder bin.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: It's a niche market.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: Mister perfect is now here.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: Oh so he can good or bad? Don't ask him.
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: Not a list, No, no, he's waiting in order to
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: see the opposite That is exactly.
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: Whatever recess will just go the opposite way.
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: I listed it as a one. I did have it
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: as it a two, but I hear your your arguments.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: Not a list.
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: Let's do it.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: Six power one armor ship play slash after fight warter
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: creature draw card.
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: Okay, and this is the is the ship that gets
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: this is.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: The ship that comes with upgrades all right on its own,
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: this ship, says play Warter creature draw hardy like a
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: good ass card.
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: And especially for our ships.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: Compared to compared to the talent so earlier today I
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: played Tobin. I had the talent from disc and he
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: had a double talent from disk deck and it.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: Was so awful.
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: And then there's this damn card which comes with void
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: shields and hollow camel. I'm pretty sure.
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: Does it come with reallocation accessory?
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: What does that come with?
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: Mmm?
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: I think that's different.
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: You find out, let me have far linked cards and
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: set you have hollow I'm gonna guess that's hollow camel
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: and void shields.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: Searching up recollation accessory.
• 48:47
  Speaker 5: Now the Amber Burner, that one of the upgrades. Im
• 48:53
  Speaker 5: I thinking of a different ship.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: I think it's different.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: This is the three Oh no, I think looking at
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: it not almost comes with all three all right, it
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: comes with hollow, reallocation and void.
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: So hollow hollow camo. Sorry, is a pip of vember.
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: Every time you play it. While creature is ready, it
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: cannot be dealt damage reallocation accessories. This creature gains after
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: reap archive a card, choose a player. Choose a player
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: for each card in chosen players archives, deal one damage
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: to a creature and void shields. This creature gains another
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: pip of vember. This creature gains at the end of
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: your turn, or this screecher.
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, from my.
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: Good upgrades, right, none of these aren't honestly bad, like
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: Hollow cameo. Yeah, pretty good, probably a three? Really good?
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: Is it a three or four? I teetered between three
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: and four because it is still an upgrade. Void Shields
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: again pretty good.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: Shield is another one like this these cards, and there
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: are a few creatures and stuff and set God, there
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: was something where was it that between the hollow shield
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: and the hollow cam and the void was just absolutely
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: devastating now I can't remember what it was.
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: And then collide where you're just warding at the end,
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: like it's just brutal on certain creatures.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, better than the Z wave emitter, right, which does
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: your turn?
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: Right? Like the worst one is reallocation access right because
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: there might just be no archives.
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: Oh no, I know, but.
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: It is after re archive of cards.
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: Yes, I'm at least doing one damage.
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: Wow, Like all three of these are probably you know,
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: thread to four value cards right because they are upgrades,
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: so they're never going to be too crazy. Although the
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: Lose Capture Lose Amber card that we talked about in Geistoids,
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: and I think we gave it like a four. That
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: thing's probably a five or six.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: That card, Yeah, after this week, that cards might be
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: a little more busted that card.
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: Now which card was it?
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: This creature captures a number, and then for each ember,
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: your opponent loses umber equal to the number of ember
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: on this creature.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: No, no, you lose it. So you put it on
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: your opponent's creature, and that creature now starts capturing amber
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: from you.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: The umber equal to the umber on this creature.
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: And with the drumbles and the veils and all the
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: stuff that are in play or all the capture that's
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: in the last couple of sets, like, it is just
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: a murderously brutal card.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we also got Ghosts in the Sun wrong because
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: we misread the card. Yes, when we did geistid because yeah,
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: for each a creature into play fingers card bile instead
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: of that done.
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: Anyways, so what am I moving I'm on Ghosts in
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: the Sun. What are we moving it to?
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: Is this still only a circular value of fours all around?
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: Or is it fours and threes? Because although do.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: You want I wants? Yeah, I kind of.
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: Now, but you have to have all three of these upgrades,
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: The only one that really doesn't tickle my pickle is
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: reallocation accessory.
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: But the point that you have three, four or five upgrades,
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: you end up with turns where you have to put
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: them on your opponent's cards.
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: Well, right, you get this.
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: You get this bad position with upgrades where you can't
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: use them or you're discarding them, and that makes them
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: like negative fives.
• 52:45
  Speaker 5: So I think in the Ideal Logos Pod, there are
• 52:47
  Speaker 5: cards I would rather have that would get taken up
• 52:49
  Speaker 5: by these upgrades. I agree, yeah, like the ship is nice,
• 52:54
  Speaker 5: but I'd rather have those three other slots for better cards.
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, hollow Cameo is not that great. I only thought
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: hollow Cameo was like a two on its own. It
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: still assumes.
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: While it's ready to damage.
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: Damage.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: I guess most stuff does get destroyed by non damage
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: based effects, although there are a lot of damage based
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: effects again in this set.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: And it's also to help you if you want to
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: fight into something, So give that, give the creature a
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: full fighting into it. And to be honest with you, allocation.
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: A three, hollow two and void shields of three and
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: let's move on.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm okay with that, all right?
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: So I had a four for this ship. What was hollow.
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: Follows a two?
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: That's what I had, and I had threes for the
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: other two, but what are we rolling with?
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: Okay, yep, threes, all right, I gotta scroll back up now,
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: all right, you know, and.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: Then the creature may end up being a five. I
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: don't know. Like I've played against the Nautilus. It was good,
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: but I don't.
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: Wavy pip of ember every time you play it. For
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: each creature your opponent controls and excessive use not an
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: enemy creature.
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: Well, this is just like a crappy version of a
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: bunch of cards that existed.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: Yes it is. Oh you want that high?
• 54:21
  Speaker 5: It's still okay because of the at best.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: Say, this doesn't win games. I don't know if I
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: really want it.
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: M Stunning creatures wins games.
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: It does.
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: Well, No, no, right, it's not slow. It's just to be.
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: I have to be in a bad situation to make
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: really good use of this card.
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: I make it a one.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: I don't care I put it too.
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: I'm fine with it too.
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: You get a number sometimes your son stuff. Yeah, I
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: guess I get to choose when I stunned. But I
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: just feel like I'm in a bad situation already. Yeah.
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: Well no, no, no, it's you all.
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: The time in these games, these days because like your
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: opponent takes their turn, their boards bigger than they you go.
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: You play this card first, you stunt some of their stuff,
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: and then you all board them. Like that's the ebb
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: and flow of this game is you are often behind
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: on board at the start of your turn. Like that's
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: just how the game.
• 55:19
  Speaker 5: Works, all right, I'll give you is the only thing
• 55:21
  Speaker 5: that makes it really worth it.
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: And that does not make a card worth having, as
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: we know, like a card that just as an Amber
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: Pip would be a zero, that doesn't even make it
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: a one, does.
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: Get it's one command prompt? We're going with two. We
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: can fix it later.
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: No, I'm saying I think an Amber Pip is worth one.
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: I figure is worth one too, Yeah.
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: But I put it in a two command prompts.
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: Command prompt two power AI Scientists. After reap, you may
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: play a non logos cardless turn. Why are we taking
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: good cards and making them sock?
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: Hm? How do they make this suck? It's just because
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: he's two power. Like this card already exists, right, it's
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: a Star Alliance. It's already been in. It's basically been
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: in Star Alliance.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: Yep. And what what's that rated?
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: This is like a commander. This is like Kirby but.
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: Better Kirby very dangerous. No, yes, it was way better than.
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: Part of Kirby. So that is why Kirby.
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: Kirby's way.
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: So yeah, which makes it better than Kirby. But it
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: does have to live, but.
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: It's got to live and it probably.
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: Doesn't statement we've had this.
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: Uh, I put this two?
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the though the previous logos one that.
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: Was reap and That's what I'm trying to go for.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: It was a wormhole Technician.
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: Is in the same set with Wormhole Technician.
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: Uh, let's see.
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: I wish we were smarter, but whole Technician is a two.
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: It's in Uh. World's Collide. Question is what is actually
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: the card I'm thinking of? Hold on, what's the.
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry with an hyeah, all right, watch us be
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: stupid here for a bit, everybody.
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: Well, clearly it's not good enough for us to remember.
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: Definitely not Wormhole technician. Pard of your deck. I for
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: the lowest card play otherwise archive it. I didn't think
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: it was either.
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: World Colide logos, So come on, panic, make us get better.
• 57:47
  Speaker 5: The card it's called Quantree.
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: You may play one non logos action card. No, it's
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: an action card. This turn.
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: Squaantch is three power. This is two power?
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: Quant was it's yeah, it's only action where command prompt
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: is anything.
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: Which makes command pomp significantly better.
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: Yes, but it is.
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: So quant was the two in the Z score.
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: I three This is a witch.
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so it dies so you never get to use
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: its ability.
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: Which means it will be answered where quant you can ignore.
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: I would agree with.
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: The record want.
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: You end up killing because it can make stupid things happen.
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: All right, I got I guess I got talked up
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: two or three sucker.
• 58:51
  Speaker 5: It definitely pulls focus from your opponent to target this creature.
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: What is which of the which of the wilds?
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: Turn out the power?
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: Which the wilds is for power? And lets you play a.
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: It's a none, so that's going to be different.
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: Play an untamed card. Yeah. I do like the uh
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: flavor text.
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: I was just reading that something slash key forge.
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: So what does that do if I answer that in
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: the command prompt? Uh, well like change ownership. So basically
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: they're saying yeah, like, so change ownership. I forget what
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: dash VH means in the command prompt In production of
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: the key forge directory. So basically they're saying, we're changing
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: the ownership of the KeyForge directory. Right, so you're changing
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: it from FFG to g G. I think, is what
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: what's going on here? Yeah, the anomizer, so we went
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: with we went with the three. Here got animator, all
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: the animator. Fine, this is nobody wants to play my
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: game of changing the names on cards to make them
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: better scientists. He's elusive.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 5: Calm down, what okay, hear me out. I pulled a
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 5: shard deck that's got disenhanced the animator, skyborne, enhanced Drumble,
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 5: Arise and cauterized vitality and logos Pip Poltergeist. So you
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 5: can arise to get the ball.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: De animize the Drumble. So now it's an artifact with
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: a whole bunch of captured embers. Unless you have r
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: it's never going back.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: No, you just the animator that makes it a creature again,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: and then you kill it.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 5: But with cauterized vitality, you can destroy Drumble as an
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 5: artifact and all the amber goes away.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: Oh love it. Yep, that's either way.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 4: Each card with a mineralized counter on it is considered
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 4: an artifact and gains action, destroy this creature. Play slash
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: after artifact. I did say artifact. I did too. If
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 4: I didn't, I meant to anyways, play slash after reap.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: Put a mineralized counter on a creature.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: This card is currently the new jar Google of weird
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: ass rules.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's really good.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: It is. It is, and people are getting it wrong
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: right because you put a mineralized counter on something, which
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: moves it to artifact, and then when the animator goes away,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: those cards go back to being a creature, and the
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: active player gets to choose their position in battle lines
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: if there's a bunch of them. And then if a
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: new de animator comes into play on each side of
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: the board, anything with the mineralized counter on it artifact.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: And then you have all the weird stuff like we're
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: talking about where upgrades, say this creature gains. Once they
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: become upgrades, they're no longer creature, or once they become artifacts,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: they're no longer creatures, so they don't.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: Have actions whatever.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: The ward counters don't fall off of artifacts, but they
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: don't do anything.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: What was the quarter It's not the penta Quorder, but
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: there was in World's Collide, there was one. Is it
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: a quad quarter quadra order quadra quorder that does not
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 4: say this creature gains, just says your opponent's key is
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: cost plus that your.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: Opponents plus one for each us.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: Yes, so that that will not get time, that will
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: not get turned off due to because it does not
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: say this creature gains.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So this doesn't turn off a lot of effects, right,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: it kind of makes them permanent. And then there is
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: the clever.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: Own de Animator.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: Yes, especially when you have double the animators.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 4: So that way it never goes away and it just
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: continuously stays on the ball. I like the de Animator.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 4: I think it's one of the good cards in the set.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah that you also animator can single handedly crush the
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 5: Amber Drakes and Bolex and anything else on the board,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 5: like you even use it on your own things. And
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 5: then if they managed to get rid of it, then
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 5: you know, you get everything from your archives coming back
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 5: to fill up your board again.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: Destroyed effects don't trigger off.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: The artifacts they actually do. But why would you.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 6: Because destroyed effects are for creatures apparently, Yeah, just because
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 6: you don't have we don't currently have art can destroy
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 6: an artifact, I.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: Understand, but I would have to look up it. I
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: don't actually know. This is where I'm saying, like it
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: brings into all kinds of goofy goofy rules because the
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: amber that's on the artifacts doesn't do anything right. It
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: just goes away. When the thing's destroyed.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 5: The animator on the amber drake spontaneous awakening to take
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 5: control of the artifact. Amber drake op it for the
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 5: key sheet.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know why it destroyed. Effect would not
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: go off.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: All right, have to read the rules. There's just all
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: kinds of silly things that happen and then also don't matter,
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: Like you make you deanimate something, and then somebody uses
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: the Mars guys to spray paint it, and then it's Mars.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: Well it's an artifact. But once it becomes a creature.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure the thing only says the artifact changes
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: and now it's not an artifact, so therefore it would
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: go back here. I think there's just all kinds of
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: very weird erring.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: Actually it is okay.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 4: So in the rule book, when a card is destroyed
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 4: by a card effect, or when a creature has damage
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 4: on an equal to her greater than its power, that
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 4: card is tagged for just struction after this tag than
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: the cards destroyed ability results.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: Okay, so yes they have.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 5: Like the wild wormhole of card outcomes, just with how
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 5: many weird interactions you can get.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there there is a bunch of and then it
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: gets in again weird timing stuff when things are getting
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: destroyed at the same time and stuff is coming in
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: and out of the battle line.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: Well, active player decides what.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: It gets to have some there are very weird interactions.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: This card, I'm sure, on its own though, is barely
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: good like it neutralizes.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: This is a four.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: It's better as you have more of them. Do you
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: watch a ton of them?
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: Yes, I don't think you want a ton of them.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: I'll take three because I don't want more. After that,
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: you can't read.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: Because you have to minialize yourself.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 5: You also neutralize your opponent's deck because they have to
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 5: call a turn just to get them destroyed out of
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 5: the artifact zone, draw them up again, you know, and
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 5: who knows how long that takes before you're just reaping
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 5: the whole time.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: It doesn't actually take their cards away because they can
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: action destroy. But you also can't play the animator to
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: a blank board very well.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 5: If your If your opponent doesn't play the board much
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 5: in their deck, then the animator is pretty pointless.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think I'm fine with a four on
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: this card. I think it's very interestingly strong and does
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: so many interesting things. It's it's a three four area.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 5: It's not nearly as good without the proper support, but
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 5: it's crezy with the proper supported.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: As a high stealing it's targeted creature control right off
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: the bat. Yess it can come.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: Back because you're not actually destroying the creature sitting there
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: and they.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: N deal with it for a turn.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: You can do things. It does stuff. I'm not saying
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: it doesn't do things, but it's not.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: On a blank board.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 5: I love using the the animator on daughters and articulated BN,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 5: just all those passive abilities that can sit there and
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 5: keep giving you draws.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: They're more protected in the artifact zone.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: I get it, and I think there's a lot of
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: fun things you guys talking about. But I think overall
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: and sealed in most decks, it's not something that I'm
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: super excited about. I put it as a three. I
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: don't see it higher than that.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: I haven't played with it enough to know if I
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: feel like it's a fact. Is long term enough because
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: I feel like he's not that hard to take care
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: of and then gone away. Yeah, but three elusive is
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: not that hard to do.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: It's still not. But I've played with it a lot
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: and I still put it out a four.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: All right, let's go round table, sheep.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: I'm three or four? I don't actually care right now.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: Okay, Wookie four drazz.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: I got talked up to a four.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: Panic or I added a three some being overruled. Let's
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: move on.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: This score does with you when you beat him in finals? hEDS,
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: is you.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: Sure?
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: Yes? Do it? Yeah?
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 4: You should start at least maybe you'd win more. Anyways,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 4: it is a pip every time you play this upgrade. Wow,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 4: this creature pretty brutal.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: Huh. I thought so too. I told him he as
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: an asshole, but he didn't agree. But it's an upgrade.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: This creature gains. Your opponent cannot play creatures more powerful
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: than this creature.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, this is better. There's that six power Mars
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: creature that exists that does this six powers, so he
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: rarely means anything. This you can put on your two
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: power something you know and well it It can be impactful.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: For a turn or two.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and and the the mars want to affects yourself
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: as well. This is one sided. This is only harmony opponent.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: We we talked about d dos and you're you know,
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: like if you have the ability to ward and stuff,
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: so this stays in effect and you put this on
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: your little two power dude, it can be pretty devastating.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: It can also do nothing.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this can be really good. Uh you know,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: first turn play Yeah, before your opponent has time to
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: to you know, archive the answer or whatever, and really
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: slow them down.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: I like this.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: I think this is a threat.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: I still think this is a three or four. Yeah.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: What are you actually seeing?
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: This position? Where you get with a Nautilus dack in
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: these and you end up with five for six freaking upgrades? Yeah?
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean yeah, three two what two?
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 4: I mean there's a lot of creatures run around, Yeah,
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 4: but they're all very I mean, chances are you're going
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 4: to end up playing this on a logos creature.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: None of them are exactly uh beefy you want to Yeah,
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: it's so looking at your bach and I'm just going
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: to kill it and now I do what I want.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: Four six two three two of those turns where you're
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: not going to be able to play any of your
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: Brobne creatures because I d dost.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: Sure three three one three.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: So I think you're underestimating how devastating it is when
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: this card is effective.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 5: There's too much spot damage from actions or even scrap effects.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 5: I think you one need a week enough creature to
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 5: benefit from playing it on something. And two.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: I just used to.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: Triple freaking then Amaks or whatever because I had no
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: way to deal with two power creatures. And then I
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: played some stuff and went okay, and then I only
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: drew three cards, and then they killed my couple of
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: creatures on board, and I went, yeah, I've just lost
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: this game like Son and Last and make impact. Yeah,
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: you put this on your Titan Century and then they
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: can't play Brio there you go.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah up to three, I put four. I think you're
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: over valuing an upgrade.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 3: All right, Quantum Compass.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: Quantum Compass, all right to fact pip November every time
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: you play it, item on the archive the top card
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: of your deck.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: Yay, dirty archives in a set that basically makes dirty archives.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: But every turn, Yeah, like people like memory Chip and
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: that crap only works and this is just better.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so this is double whatever memory chip is. Well,
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 4: just because memory doesn't make memory chip a good card,
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 4: people like AOA doesn't make it a good set.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: Memory chips a four and it's.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: Look was a four, And this card is just better
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: and damn near everywhere?
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 4: Didn't memory chip? You archive a card from your hand? Yeah,
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 4: you get to pick, right, don't you almost positive you
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 4: get to archive a card. You get to pick, not
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 4: from the top of your deck. Yeah, so memory chip
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 4: is crafting. So so the problem here is it is
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 4: the dirtiness right now?
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: Yes, I don't it's not better than memory chip.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: No, it's not better, But I still think it's better
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: than the memory trip because you get to use it
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: every turn.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: I think the Omni puts it at a four. I
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: don't think it makes it higher.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: I had it at a four. Al right, I'll accept that.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: Can you get can you get multiples of these problems?
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 4: It's an uncommon oh, our am Otherwise I call it
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 4: our M folder. I now have a folder in my
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 4: computer calls just a blue slammer.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, part of grade.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 4: It's an AI insect. Weird how they AI in this
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 4: sets really weird? Anyways, after rape destroy an enemy creature.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 4: If you do draw a card, it's pretty good.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: This is which this is another witch kind of card
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: like this. This is one of those ones like against
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: an older deck that doesn't play many creatures, you know,
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: like you can never establish a board against it.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you draw.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's only like three because it is so
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: pushy and doesn't do anything.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: On play correct if it did play them.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but there is there is like a turn one,
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: you know, like command Prompt Nautilus r M Fuller Logos deck,
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: and you just played all three of those on turn
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: one and then your opponents just kind of went ship.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: Did I just lose this game to three crampy Logos
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: cards and turn one? And then every turn you're like,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: all right, I will you know, gill whatever, you know,
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: play whatever I want and draw with.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 3: It's still gonna be less less likely in the uncommon
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 3: slid for each of those. But this is still good.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's like three. It's yeah, three. I
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: like if it lasts on board, it's even stronger.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: But it is really really I put it in its
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: power too.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: No, it's better than that.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: I got it better than all right, root it wins
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: every one of them. It was sorry. Sorry, Let's say
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: it wins every one on one with creatures.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 4: If you go first. Yes, yeah, root access pip a Vember.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 4: Every time you play it, play, discard the bottom card
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 4: of your opponent's deck. Deal two damage to each enemy
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 4: creature that shares a house with the discarded card.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: Eh, there's less bottom card crafting currently.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That well, I mean, yeah, I suppose.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: Not that that would actually make this card that much better.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, I.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: Shift this could be destroying. It would still be kind
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: of a me card because like we already have that
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: off the top of deck, right, but it destroys both houses.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 3: This is like a.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: Two.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: I've had it. It often players for nothing except an
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: amber pip.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 4: And that's worth One's worth it two? No, that's right,
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 4: we have zero, So maybe it isn't one.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 5: Is that only target enemy creatures or every creature?
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: That it is only enemy creatures? All right, it's still random.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 4: I'm glad we all agreed on two articulated wren three
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 4: power cyborg scientists hazardous one. At the end of your turn,
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 4: you may exhaust a friendly creature if you do dry card,
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 4: so the interesting.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The interesting thing on this though is timing. So
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: you draw up to six or seven because you have
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: a daughter, and then you can look at your hand
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: and if you want to play all your board creatures
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: because you know that's what you're playing next turn you,
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: I mean you you're telegraphing a little bit, but you
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: don't use his ability or you use him. You just
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: exhaust himself to draw the card, right, But you get
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: to draw up before you have to pick what you exhaust,
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: so you have you already have a bit of information
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: to know and that extra card like this is also
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: post chains, so you should a change and then draw
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: this card.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: I like articulated run.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: I have not hated this card every time against it.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 4: It is something I have to deal with just because
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 4: of hand advantage. Yeah, and in multiples some type it
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 4: can't get out of hand.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: Three.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 5: Yes, still give you pre draws.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: Daughters two power. This is three daughters elusive. This has
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: hazardous one, which is a meaningless right, so elusive is
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: better if it had like hazardous three. Great, now you
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: need a six power creature to deal with it. Yeah.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: No, the thing is this is yeah, it's like a
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: it's like a daughter or mother for the most part,
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: except it never effectively never gets to reap. But really
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: you're going to choose your house. So this card has
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: the same value as a daughter or a mother to me, like,
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: there are situations where it is worth and that's why
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: I think this is a four two. It functionally plays
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: about the same with the way you have to switch out.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 3: That is a three. I'm fine with whatever. Now we're
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 3: hitting in a stream of art cards, so with what
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 3: I do want to say is articulator Wren is the
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 3: first common card that you're going to see for a logo,
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 3: so you should have a much higher amount.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: So I'm okay with having a couple of these.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: Me too.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 4: Relicks Ponder three power Cyborg Recruiter enhanced with a logos
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 4: Enhancement scrap draw card.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 3: This is one that.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: Sorry Wizard, this is the Wizard random card. I have
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: not been happy to have this card as a card.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: Is the enhancement PIP doing enough to pay for it?
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know, but I have not been particularly happy
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: to have this card as and yet I know.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 5: It would be amazing, but with just the one draw
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 5: it's not going to be as useful unless you have
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 5: either full hand sized by the end of your turn,
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 5: or you happen to draw into another Logos card.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: It's very hit to.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 4: Missy from Coda, the artifact that lets you you can
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 4: tip it over a draw card.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: It was like with this, this is scrap draw card.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: This is like this card.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: The only place that I like it my deck at
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: all is it's freaking discard pit podder. Yeah, yeah right,
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: it is, if of fact, where Babe, I hit some value.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 3: I think it does increase. Yeah, I think it does
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 3: increase with multiple so it's more of a two to
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 3: two three.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: Well, you still have the enhanced PAP. I don't think
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: you can go that low. Yeah you can.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it sticks at a I'm with like,
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: I don't have a feel for them, Like having one
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: Logos Enhanced PIP and a deck is not enough to
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: make a difference.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 3: But I start to see that turn when I meant
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 3: about three. That's why I was saying it. You know,
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 3: I would have loved to have seen the draw card
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 3: with a reap or a fight or something else here.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 3: Oh sure, even the play, but I'm like anything, I.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: Would put it at a three only because I think
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: you have to value the logos enhancement. But this is
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: another one. I just don't love it.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: I put it exactly where you put it two two three.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 5: Imagine all the value you'd lose out on if your
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 5: amber or whatever other enhancements landed on your brillicks ponder.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, then your play it, then you play it,
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: but then that scrap effect is pointless to you.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: But you don't always have discard anyways in the set.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: So I don't know. I'm not like I said, I
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: I would just flat right it threes.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 4: With the amount of enhancements in the set, like I think.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 4: I think that's the three is the sweet spot. If
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 4: you don't have three, it kind of just becomes a
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 4: thing like Oh, I.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: Mean, I don't think I've given anything. I don't think
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: I've given a house enhanced PIP less than a four
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: so far.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: I know I've tried because I'm not.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 4: I don't think the I don't think the single house
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 4: enhancement PIP. But a lot of these commons is is meaningful.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: I mean it very much depends on where it falls.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 4: Yes, it's very dependent, but it's not it's not like
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 4: the enhanced of old. Like a lot of the commons
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 4: used to have three enhancements and it would give you.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 5: You'd rather have one archinometer and save that under slot
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 5: for another card, like.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: I would take a Daughter or an articulated rent over ponder.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 4: I think there are a lot. I don't think having
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 4: like one enhancement in his deck is worth worth what
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 4: you're giving it. I've said that at all the all
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 4: the enhancement cards. You guys are like, oh, but it
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 4: has one enhancement. Ah, It's like, yeah, it's just why
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 4: it's just one? That's it one?
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah? But what other line can change the deck?
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: That it can? It can change the deck. It can
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: also can meaningless.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: Well, most key Forge decks are meaningless. Even key Forge
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: decks with high zk oors our meaningless garbage, right because
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: the stuff still has to line up perfectly.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: But I wouldn't give it the enhancement.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: You can't have it, right, Like you can't have a
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: chart of change enhanced with the Logos enhancement unless there's
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: a freaking Logos enhancement your neck. So you do need
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: this brilliant found or ideally arganometer.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 3: But so I will put it as a straight three
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 3: because I argued earlier that our enhanced cards are really
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 3: what we're looking for in the set to make cards broken,
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 3: so the argandometer other cards where I can have it
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 3: in two houses. So because I need I need correct
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 3: so I need items here.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: But but I do agree.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 3: I think it is one hundred percent dependent God.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: When they hit on actions, it's kind of sad almost
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: yep yep.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: Speaking of on the action right, like give me on
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: rise right, like you know, yes, yes, I would want
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: it on this next one because this next can also
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: have an.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: House to enhanced quantum compass and be real disappointed, right,
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: Like just because it lands on arf fact doesn't make
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: it good. Yeah.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 4: Let's talk about connective transfer pip a Vember. Every time
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 4: you play it, it's an action play put each flank
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 4: creature into its owner's archives.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: Z now connect them trader transfer. Maybe this is altered
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: they need to rename it to altered transfer a Z.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: I like, how it like you're still screaming on the console.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: Okay, so this is the card I was earlier indicating
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: it is common. You can get it with your imperium charge.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: And I have had this happen to me because this
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: is like four often four. But I've also had to
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: discard this card.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 3: A freaking ton because you have to put each.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: Your own creatures into your archives, and sometimes that's.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: Bad sometimes, but like you could often manipulate this to
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: be quite good for you. Not always, but often I'm not.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: It has tempered my love for this card. You know
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: what I ended up the deck I was playing it with.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: I had what I had, skippies, which we haven't talked about.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: So I just kept putting skippies down and just making
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: a dirty ass archive and then archiving my skippies with
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: this because the best I could do, and it was
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: not good enough by anyway. This was again where I
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: said it's like playing an AOA. It's like, oh I
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 2: killed my heckx beyond Whoo, I got a dirty archive.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: I can replay a mediocre creature. This is not awesome,
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: but I put it found, which is really good. It
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: combos well with the archive hate cards that exist in set.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: I think three is fine.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: I also put out a three. Yeah, I think three
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: is okay. I think sometimes very good, but yeah, sometimes
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: you just have to discard it.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: You'll also get multiple copies of this damn thing, which
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: even you know, like it's one of these cards like
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 2: if you're a head on board. It is a discard.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 5: It's kind of like a lust in the wild. You know,
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 5: if you have all these crazy destroyed effects in amber,
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 5: sky's just a good way to handle it.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, like Lost in the wilds is.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: Four, are k More is kimre kimeore eclipse, This is
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: a wild is a four, Kimore is a two. Interesting,
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: it'd be even kind of like lights out.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: Light each flank. Yeah, shuffle each flame creature into its
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 2: owner's deck, which is not as good as are hiving
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: your cards, but often better. Like so, I I wonder
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: why the other one is a four and Kimore is a.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Lost in the Woods is actually.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 2: Think t was better because you had Ronnie's in that set.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but well it's also remember Shadows was shadow of
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: its former self.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: It was it was Ronnie or Bust, right, But I mean,
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: I still that's why I I my I feel like
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: my three is the right kind of answer here.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 3: And Lost in the Woods you're going to say that
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 3: based on what's there.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: No, we weren't Lost in the Wild. Lost in the
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: Woods amazing card much better than this Lost in the Wild.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: Choice. Yeah, I think three is fine.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 3: I'm fine I put it as a three h as
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 3: for the group, I originally had it as a two.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 3: I don't like that I am forced into it, but
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 3: I think that it's very situational. So there's a lot
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 3: of times where I'm discarding.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: You should have planned better.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you want you want it with the six card.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 3: Well, but there's oftentimes that you aren't able to go
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 3: ahead and play. So yes, we get to ahead and
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 3: see the next card of Ezra pause there. But there's
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 3: other times that I happen to see my articulate wren
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 3: or the ponders like it.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 3: I just think that it's not as strong as that.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 3: But Ezra pause, what do we get?
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: I mean I could definitely be talked down to it too.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: As well. We're on a storm strong, right, there is
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: a storm strong card.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 5: You look at your opponents and every time you reap
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 5: with it and on play and draw cards and draw card.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 4: It's also two power. That's a creature, that's a cyborg.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: You don't pretty much know what's in your opponent's hand
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: most of the time, anyways.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I do. Being able to see is
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: pretty helpful. It's okay, it's fine. I understand that every
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: time you reap. But this.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 2: Two powers also drop card, which is pretty nice.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 5: There's not always something you're gonna be able to do
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 5: about knowing what house they're going to call next turn,
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 5: but you know, if they're holding key cards.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 4: Information is always good.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, if you can get this guy disenhanced so
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: you can use it with your scrapamander or whatever the
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: hell he is and some of your your choice cards.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: So this this was classic on Fathoma would be real strong.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 3: So this reminds me a lot of Psychic Bug from
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 3: Coda the logos.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's basically psychic book, right, that.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 3: Actually had a two for a score, so that's why.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 3: But this also draws a card correct, which I do
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 3: think it is better. I think I have itted a three.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: Threw it was a four here I now looking at
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: upon his hand, getting that knowledge, drawing card, then connected
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: transferring it.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 3: But again, you're playing Christmas Land. I think that this
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 3: re loses value as you have multiples.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's probably just a three. Let me see your hand.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: Your hand again, and let me see your hand.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'll still take the d hard, but I'm not.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: But the drying. The card isn't always that great.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 3: I mean it's a one third chance of drawing, a
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 3: one third.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: Chance a thirty three, and a third chance of three
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: place right, all right, three is fine place, Solder pipp amember.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 4: Every time you play it, play move a creature on
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 4: a flank, move a creature to a flank of its
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 4: controllers battle line, a deal to damage to it if
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 4: it is not destroyed, repeat the preceding.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: Effect win bolt emissions. Yeah. I was like, this card
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: seems familiar and I can't except twin bolt.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: Can actually kill two two power creatures. This can't. Yeah,
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 2: I guess it's or can kill one four power creature. Yeah,
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 2: it's it's a two.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: It's like a punch right, kind of pretty nice hide
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: value three.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like the same value as the three. Sometimes
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 2: it's two, sometimes it's four. So sure, what's a punch?
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 2: Flank is pointless?
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: A little three?
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: Huh? That's there? Yes, punch really a three? I don't know,
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: is it? I mean I can kill one? No?
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: Oh, you're just talking about like this is the car
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: that you have? That means that my RM fuller doesn't
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: mean anything.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it is. I am it can be
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: a three.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 2: I don't care.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm on the fence there. I typed three when
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: I had I had a two in there so I
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: could go either way down it goes two.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 2: All right, I'm finally we hate two plays older.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 3: No, I mean we we grade lower.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 5: I want to say, there's just better cards out there.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 4: Quantum Mouse, the mouse of the house. He's a one
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 4: power quantum mouse.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 3: There's only one mouse in this house.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: Ah.
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 4: He enhances with two draw and a discard. When you
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 4: would resolve a draw bonus icon, you may choose to
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 4: resolve it as a discard bonus icon instead.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: No thanks, that's a card like this power.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 2: But this card is the defining between good players and
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 2: bad players.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: All right. Well so we're all going to give our ratings,
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: and then sheep's gonna tell us who's a good player
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: and who's a bad player.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 4: All right, Jazz card. Uh, well, it's got to draw pips.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 4: Just just a number, my god, just a number.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: Number. I don't need your okay, four. I also gave
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: it a four.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 2: I was also given it a four.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: Okay, So now then you what do you got? I
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: was gonna say two three enhancement pips sir, three two draws.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 2: A discard and freaking discard.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 3: Pips, Yes, go ahead, and was one mouse Yeah great,
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 3: look at him.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: If you are interested in your extra wide mouse playing
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• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: I am not all right, okay? This is three pips,
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: three enhancement pips.
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 2: And being able to make the two draw hips tight pips. Yes,
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 2: I mean he probably doesn't live for me to cards. Yep,
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 2: you're right, his one power nest.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 4: He probably doesn't. However, he does give me the ability
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 4: to draw two more cards and discards some trash out
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 4: of my hand.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: It's not going to win me the game. It's not,
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: but it's.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 4: Probably going to push you in the correct direction.
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 2: I like this over info Morph. I'll take this over
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 2: every day.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, guaranteed.
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 2: An infomorph is probably a four.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: Let's say Mutant Traits is a four.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: Okay, yes, all right? So I gave the most. Do
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: we all give the most afore it? We don't even
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: need to talk about it. We just move forward.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 3: Gave it to panic, gave it two. But that's okay.
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 3: He's joined us tonight and we appreciate it.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: You have to take it. If you're on the cast,
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: you have to take it. You're here, Skippy the Glorious,
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: he's no longer a time hog. He's now just three
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: power A I what was he before cyborg? All right?
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: I wonder what happens when you go from a cyborg. Actually,
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: what was he? That's a good question.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 4: I believe he was a cyborg three power if I'm
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 4: not mistaken, maybe it was a two. I think it
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 4: went right, Hello, Skippy, time Hoog was NotI he was
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 4: a mutant.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a mutant. He's one of the few mutants
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: from cod that was in coda. Interesting is he is
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: he a cyborg too?
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 2: No?
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: Just mutants?
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 3: A mutant.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 4: So now it went from straight AI play slash after
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 4: rep archive of the top card your deck, all right,
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 4: scrap use an opponent's artifact as if it was yours
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 4: if you do draw card.
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 2: Hey, I've yet to actually use his scrap effect because
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 2: this playoff is pretty good.
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 5: Scrape on many many cauldrons lately, and it's glorious.
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely see where his scrap effect is very good.
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: I like a scrap, I like his play, I like
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: his reap.
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 2: Yep, he's a four.
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the payout is huge.
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 2: I mean I like it better than it doesn't destroy
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 2: the artifacts.
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 5: Sadly, you still get a draw if you don't get
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 5: any real use out of another person's artifact.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: Well, I like how you know, because the room was
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: it remote access it. Yes, occasionally it's good, but most
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: of the time it just feels like a pip like
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: you're not doing anything useful with it. Here, It's like,
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: most of the time it's archive the top card of
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: your deck. And occasionally when it's better than archiving the
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: top card of your deck, it's use your opponent's artifacts.
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: So that that's that's a great combo. I like, you
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: still get it as a reapability, so if it sticks,
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: it's just.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 4: Archive more yep, efficiency, he said, as efficiency, and are
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 4: what is not to love?
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: Four stay around?
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 2: You like it, you'd like to have four of them?
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 2: You'd be fine with that.
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: You take four of them absolutely, and therefore we'll give
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: it a four. Absolutely. Worm tunnel means of Kyler Red
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: find the lasers more skippy.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 4: I don't know, there's not a set been printed that
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 4: I will not take Skippy time Hawks or clor worm tunnel.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 3: Well hold one, actually, no, no, we have Worm Tunnel
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 3: and then Titan Centry because we had done the upgrades
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 3: with the ship earlier. Do we ever give Titan Century
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 3: a score.
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 4: Because he's well, No, because he's not like we gave
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 4: him both five? I said, we did not do Titan Centry.
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we did, because it came with imperium charge.
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: I said five on Titan Century. I said six on
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 1: I might have been in the bathroom. I ran away.
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 2: Worm Tunnel.
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 3: Yes, I just I just really don't like this with
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 3: its own impact in my own archives, Titan Centry, Titan Century,
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 3: I add it as a three. I really don't like this.
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 2: You're wrong, I agree.
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 1: I think it can hurt you more often than you
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: don't pat it. Then what's the point of having it
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: if you're just going to discard a five power creature.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 2: Because when somebody's playing a better archive deck than you,
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 2: you can make an impact. And I don't care what
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 2: you're playing in this set, they're almost certainly going to
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 2: be decks that archive better than you because your best
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 2: archive is connective with Skippy's. So you have a dirty
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 2: crap archive.
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: This This is a hard stop to wins decks.
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 5: Yep, this is like ross paper scissors at that point.
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: Well, no, I mean the playing forwards.
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 2: We're playing rock ypords.
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 4: I mean if you're going up against a Winds deck
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 4: and I don't know, like, if you're going up against
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 4: the Winds decks, I think you hold the Titan centry.
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I think you hold it until you need it.
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 4: Best case scenario, you've you've archived it, which you're skippy.
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 5: It's true, even if it was in your discards, then
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 5: your opponent would probably be very hesitant to play their wins.
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're Titan back right away, all right?
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 3: For it be worm Tunnel, all right.
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: Scrolling back up.
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 4: Worm Tunnel enhanced with two capture pips play move one
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 4: ember from a creature to the common supply if you
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 4: do drop card.
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 2: So I've played most of these I've seen have been
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 2: enhanced with their own capture pip, Like, is it program
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 2: this way? Because then this card is great?
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: I wish I that's not been my experience without that.
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 2: This card is black.
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I only occasionally, and I've definitely had the time
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: where it's like, oh, well they captured one of mine.
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: Is losing that umber worth two cards?
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 2: Yes, we already discussed more.
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: I think it is, but it's like a hesitation right like,
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: versus essentially burning one.
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 2: Of their like if you need it, because that's going
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 2: to get you on check or not well.
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 5: Play better unless they're capturing or you're capturing. It's usually
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 5: a dud.
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 2: Much capture this car is it a two or a three?
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: I put two is?
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 3: I think this is a three. It just seems to
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 3: always it's a high probability that's working out with the
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 3: capture that I'm seeing in set.
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 4: There's so much capture, like somebody got a heart on
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 4: for captured Pips in this set and captured and captured umber.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: We all know who this is. So many cards I would.
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 3: Rather have at common here I can't disagree with.
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 4: There's so many cards I would rather not have and
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 4: this would fit right in right in, Like what did
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 4: we hit?
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 2: We said? We we We basically said we don't really
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 2: want placeholders.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: We don't want placeholders, and most of us indifference about ponder, Okay, ponder,
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: and then we're pretty happy.
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 4: With the rest of the stuff. You know, Connective was
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 4: tunnel as opposed. Would you take a worm tunnel versus
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 4: a connective connective transfer? I'd take connective transfer.
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 3: I would take the worm tunnel cap.
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 2: I would I would take either, like I think either
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 2: can lead to very effective decks.
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: And to capture pips man might.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 2: Both of them require other stuff to have and be
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 2: there for it to matter. Neither one is better to
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 2: me on its own.
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: Because it only has two enhancements.
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 3: But on its own it has two enhanced.
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 2: I think I think calling it a three is fine.
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's a four.
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: I think it's a three.
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 5: It loses a whole point chance you get payout from
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 5: the double draw.
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: All right, but.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 4: Let me tell you I have one hundred percent chance
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 4: of capturing two of your member panic.
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 2: Would you have it at Well, that's not true either.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 4: It's going to have two capture pips. They're going somewhere.
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 2: They could be on stupid ass cards that don't capture
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 2: because it's on your board.
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: But when it comes down to the end of the
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: game and I need one more cap, I need to
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: take you off a check for one umber.
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 2: Or at the end of the game you need to
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 2: take their creature off the board to get your amber
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 2: back to win and Connective wins the game that time.
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 2: Like that's that's that's all, just Garridge scenario, like, all.
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 3: Right, so Panic was at a three? Dras were you at?
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: I mean I had it as a two. Apparently you
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: guys have gotten more value than I have out of this.
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 3: Cheap where you at on a three, Wookie, I'm at
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 3: a four and I got it at a three.
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 2: Looking at the logos commons, they're generally good. Ye oh yeah,
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 2: we're averaging over a three on logos commons.
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 1: I am going to get rid of these because I
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 1: want to see the reprints, because I would say, in general,
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 1: I don't think Logos has a ton of bad cards
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: in set. Yeah, i'd agree with that. Let's see Harlan
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 1: Mindlock is fine.
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's a rare, so we don't look at
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 2: rare I mean rare Hart.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 3: So Logos actually, for average, came in at two and
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 3: seventy eight hundreds.
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: Sharks in set.
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was a time traveler. It was behind
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 3: Geistoid and dis.
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: Code monkeys in set.
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 2: Heh Yeah, Information Exchange another mid tier car.
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: That this is an a rip off than Eureka being
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: in set. So Halo grammarphone with the house tip gets
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: a lot better. Sure that's another car with house yep.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: Better is Archimedian instead. No, no archimedies, thank God, time
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 1: Archimedes travelers and set. Yeah, kamed is really good. Sloppy
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: sloppy lab works and their daughter epation. There is the
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: powerhouse in quantum thing your trap guys, look out, yes,
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 1: yeah that's one.
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 2: Sadly, this set actually makes that card from a zero
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 2: to a zero point one.
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: I will say a pip on it.
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 2: Uh huh, it's garbage.
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 1: Yea, it is garbage, but you can at least play.
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 3: Oh man, yeah, candle units there. I actually had a
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 3: deck that opened up with multiples that was three or four.
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 2: Did we put imperium charge?
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: Imperium charge?
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 3: We had a five?
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: Dude, that might be a six? I had six. There
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: are so many cards in logos that archive, holy.
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 2: Dirty messy archive.
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: Perfectly.
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 2: People are excited for strange.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: Fine, it's not.
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 2: A mind over matters in set like that back.
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 4: On archives a lot of car mind over matter into
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 4: a Eupurian charge. Yeah, yep, so you got big, you
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 4: got big boards. I got free backup plan. Everybody happy
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 4: backup plan.
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 2: I know you are excited for that.
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what is that for?
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 2: Is that DT?
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, there are so many cards.
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: No there are so what's what's back? And so I
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: don't think so no, oh no, I'm thinking of tokens
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 1: of change.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 5: Tokens of change you can get Archimedes, Neutron, Shark, and Eddie.
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 1: There are so many ways to archive cards in this set.
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 1: It is still in this there are already.
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 2: Seventeen imperium charge mind over Matter. I don't know if
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 2: that's actually game breaking, but.
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 4: It depends on the amount of creatures. Do you want
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 4: me to move imperium charge? Though you gotta be careful
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 4: with it with the mind over matter because do I
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 4: want to do I that's like a third key or
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 4: I'm somehow fine. I don't know if there's a way,
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 4: and I don't think there's any graveyard recursion in logos
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 4: to then go do it again.
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 2: There is an imperium charge mind over Matter Time Traveler
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 2: and then double Kaboom and information exchanges in the set.
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 2: But then it's also got Brobnar with double Mace, double Gobber,
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 2: double Donovan, triple fury Heart.
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, can you imagine making dumb dumb.
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 2: In SaaS World is a sixteen is real bad?
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 5: Mind over Matter Guystoid enhanced PK Siphonader.
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 2: Well, this imperium charge is enhanced to brobnar.
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 5: Even if pk E was logos and HANSI had mind
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 5: over matter, it'd be unbelievable.
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 3: Aw all right, boys, we have managed to turn time
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 3: into a much longer piece.
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 1: Into a time hog.
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 3: We have been time hogs again for all of our listeners.
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 1: All right, nobody actually lives. Nobody actually listens to the show, well,
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: especially if.
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 2: The microphone back running, suffering with listening to us suffering.
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, weird, she the pain, love the pain.
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 2: She runs faster because she's trying to make it end.
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got these guys off if I just get there.
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 2: I just gotta get to mile six off.
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: But final thoughts. Logos in the sets not bad? Oh yeah,
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 1: I want logos I want and then yeah, make you know.
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 2: If it's Geistoid it might be Yeah, No, I don't know.
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 1: Sorry, and I'm sorry. Equedon he could be equaed On.
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 1: I'm buying it's such.
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 2: It's only if I have the shard. If I don't
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 2: have the shard, I don't I want Equedon. There's nothing
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 2: else that high.
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 1: In Equedon scouts. You want the reprints. You don't want
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 1: any of the new cards.
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 2: You actually just want to Yeah, I was just thinking
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 2: about the new cards.
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there is Hoist Operation Sandworm's still there
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 1: with the Hoystop. Yeah yeah, I mean yeah, so you
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 1: still got sandworms in there. There's still like you guys were.
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 2: Talking about stuff that's okay, but it's.
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 1: Not actually corner of the market.
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 5: You still get the Vested Herald, which has the Equaedun
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 5: Enhancement PIP and you can scrap it to archive your
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 5: sand worms.
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 2: It's not good enough, That's what I'm saying, Like, it's
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 2: not as my experience with this set so far as
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, it can make some amber, it can race,
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 2: it can do those things. It has some neat stuff.
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 2: But unless you get some really wanky broken house enhancement thing,
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 2: this set is just okay.
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 1: Might be true. I well know, this set's poor.
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 2: Compared to g R.
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: This is a total step compared to GR no set
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 1: rotation crap.
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 2: Level g R versus crap level. As Like if I
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 2: think I would, no, you're right, ther deck and I
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 2: just I just wrecked every as.
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: That's what I n C. G R probably wins, yep.
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 1: I mean yeah, it's just it's it's hard this, this
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 1: set is even I feel like it's going to be
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 1: even harder to open the good deck.
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 2: But the good deck in the set is going to
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 2: be pretty damn good. It's just harder to open it
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 2: your own because you have to have these enhancement hits.
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 1: In well, and then not only I don't know, like
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 1: we'll see it's this is the thing is going to
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 1: be much rarer if you were to have if at
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 1: any time you were going to have some form of rotation,
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 1: this is the set you want to Everything else is
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 1: rotating out. This set rotates in that that would have
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 1: been perfect. However, you we have no rotation in this game.
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 1: So that means gr is still gonna whip that thing.
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 1: It's just too fast, r Will, It's too fast. It's
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 1: too fast.
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  Speaker 4: By the time this gets set up to do what
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  Speaker 4: it wants to do, gr is going and I forged
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  Speaker 4: my third key for the win. You're like, all right,
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  Speaker 4: I got I got all my steps set up right,
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  Speaker 4: and I'm ready to play. And gr Is like, oh,
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 4: pready one, I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 2: You have playing typical gr You have three turns to
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 2: put control on and six turns to win the game, right,
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  Speaker 2: Like that's that's good. Gr like if you don't have
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 2: them controlled by turn three or you're also winning on turn.
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  Speaker 4: Six, No, dexter, we don't underestimate it. We've just been
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 4: around the block a little bit. Like even fraud. Fraud's
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 4: busy winning while.
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  Speaker 2: I have already experienced tokens that is controlling you by
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 2: the end of turn two or the end of turn
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 2: three and you are done. Like that exists in tokens. Tokens.
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 2: I think tokens is a more competitive set than ambers guys.
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 1: That's because it's mainly isn't just mainly reprints. It's all
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 1: not report But.
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  Speaker 2: It's not the reprints. It's the absolutely stupid because token
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 2: generation they put in with better tokens.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, but it is not it is not prints that
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 1: have been designed. I don't know about that.
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 2: No, because every polling, every house that they put in
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 2: had to have token cards added to it, right, So
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 2: it's kind of it's kind of like this there's like
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 2: I don't know what it is, ten or fifteen new
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 2: cards per house, or maybe it's only nine, but they're
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 2: in common slots and you see a lot of them,
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 2: and they make so many freaking tokens. It's crazy.
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Discs over there, which we'll talk about in
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 1: a future episode. But Discs has got crazy ways to
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 1: just generate tokens, and they've got good tokens.
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, unless you've got thrall or canteen of being, I
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 5: don't think you're gonna beat a legionary scholar deck well, but.
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 2: That's I don't I think that's all.
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 1: They made four tokens for each of them. I thought
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 1: it was just three.
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's three commons that are rare.
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just like last time I was just there.
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 2: So there are seven how and there's what sixties fifty
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 2: eighty sixty canteen, there are fifty There are fifty six
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 2: new cards that are not tokens in the set.
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 4: We'll go over those on another time. But with that
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 4: being said, I think that ends up for us this week.
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 4: Buy your buy your KFC tickets, meet us. There plenty
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 4: to do with KFC, plenty to do outside of KFC,
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 4: and we'll see y'all next week.
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 1: Happy people, aging everyone.
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  Speaker 3: May the Forge be with you. Glad you enjoyed our
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 3: twenty minute conversation today.
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 1: Ohy, and some might.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to do two sets houses six Mine a
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  Speaker 2: sad side conjectu