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Hosting a MASSIVE Archery Event | TAC San Antonio Recap · The Bow Disciples Podcast

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Cheers. We got a first time guest here
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Tove on the podcast This is first time, huh?
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First time on the Pod. I would like to preface this,
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we're filming outside. Obviously it's a little bit
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gusty, so if the audio sucks, I apologize.
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Hopefully it's not too bad. Y'all, learn how to use the
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sound feature on there. The wind feed.
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There's a wind feature on. There they even have.
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They come with little socks. I just don't want to.
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I don't want the Jimmy to drop the audio too.
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Much Jimmy's. I think.
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They always make it worse. I do want to .1 thing out.
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When you cheers, you have to drink after all.
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Bad luck. So go ahead.
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There you go. I would like to say before we
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kick this thing off, there's. Another new guest you forgot?
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About oh Reagan in here. Yeah, it might be a little
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chaotic. We got dogs all over the place
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and first time guest, but I want to, I want to.
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And a very unfocused. Yeah, but I would like to say
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boat cycles Challenge, two tickets.
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It's the week. If you're watching this right
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now, the event is this coming weekend so be sure to go to
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boatcycles.com pre register. That's gonna get you through the
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line quicker and get you out there shooting.
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It's a two day event. We got a concert Saturday night,
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multiple food trucks, very good production, so be sure to sign
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up for that bad boy. We've been putting work in.
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We have, we have. Been how many days would you say
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total we've spent out on that hill?
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At least 20 weeks. Yeah, maybe 20 days.
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Two to three weeks. Total.
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Yeah. A lot of work.
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But it's been, it's been good. It's been worth it.
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Yeah, and you guys just shot bare ass chute out there.
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Same venue. I was not there.
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Why don't you guys kind of powwow about about that event a
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little bit the bear ass? Chute, the Bear State Archers,
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did an excellent job setting up the course.
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It was really nice and I I thought it was challenging and
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it was a nice atmosphere. It's, it's good country, yeah.
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Yeah, probably the best, the best in the, in the.
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County probably one of their and one of their most clever, yeah
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put togethers yet. They didn't, they didn't use all
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recycled lines. They did some new ones, you
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know, maybe our maybe our influence from last year, who
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knows. But they, they cut some new
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lines, they put some new targets up, some were challenging.
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So I thought it was good good little good little warm up for
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for the Bow disciples shoot. I heard you got the win in the
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group, you know. Thank thankfully you weren't
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there, so it was a. Battle in the beginning, though,
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I think for a little while. And then I and then I fell off
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the wagon. Yeah, I hadn't shot for a while,
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so it was good. I kind of, I kind of ramped up
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and Brianna kind of petered out. Yeah, So what are you talking
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about, Ted? Nobody.
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'S Ted was consistent I I I think I.
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Will say Ted was consistent. They both said it, Ted.
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Ted shot very well throughout the whole thing.
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Brianna said he got a little tuckered at the end, but other
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than. That I do not like 40 target
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shoots. It's they are not my favorite.
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Yeah, they are not. It it got a little warm too, and
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we started at the end and maybe I didn't take enough water, but
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that was my own fault. But at the end I was going, oh,
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the last four targets or so, and it was apparent.
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Walk. And it was warm and you're out
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in the sun. And I was.
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That's good for me because I need the cardio.
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Yeah, no, it was good. They did a good job.
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So yeah, same same venue for for ours.
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But we we definitely have some new lines even from last year
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and some some tougher shots, a good range I I'd say between the
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the three courses you know definitely.
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Took advantage of more of the acreage.
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Yeah, they pushed the boundaries a little more, which is good.
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We're we're pushing them even a little bit further.
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Yep. That was good.
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Yeah, that's awesome. Well, while we were doing that,
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you were in in Texas for TAC. We've been doing that one the
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last couple years together, but just you this year, yeah.
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You shot with some guys MFJQ. M.
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FLMN. OP Yeah, Elemental.
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P Yeah. Shout out to Josh, who by the
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way is coming to Bow Disciples Challenge too.
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He's making the trip from Washington, which is pretty
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cool. We got people coming from 8
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states so far, but going back to tax, San Antonio is my fourth
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time going to that event. And I will say this, it's
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interesting because I shot the Prime course, which I think I've
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done every year pretty much. And it it was, I mean, it was
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the same, it was the same thing. And I get it because they're on
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a tour. So it's kind of like, this is a
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good setup. We know how to put it in quick,
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let's put it in and let it run. They don't have time to make it
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every year. Yeah, of course not.
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Is the primary one with the puddles from last year.
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No, they didn't like. No, the puddles one was that one
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across the bridge, the ultra view I think.
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It was that ultra view. Yeah, but no, It was great.
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Those guys are good shooters. Shake the W Yeah, yeah, so took
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the W you know, you already know.
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But I have fun, so it's good. I'm stoked.
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Like I said, Josh is coming kind of a last minute thing for him
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and then we got so many. It's just going to be exciting.
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I think this year, like I think last year we nailed the
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community aspect at night when people were camping.
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But this year, I think with the concert and the show kind of
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being on the actual schedule is going to have it be even bigger
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and organized. And not have a little like you
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know village if you will. You know tack does a good job at
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that kind of having all the booths together and and creating
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an area you can walk around and and see the vendors, food,
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socialize and I think we're kind of setting that up well this
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year having that one central area to to congregate.
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And which one is it? Lala's the Mexican food truck
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that goes into the evening. No, that one's the morning.
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That's the morning one, and then Cowbell Kitchen goes into the
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evening so you can get food before the concert if you wanted
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to all order you. Don't want to bring food to
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cook? Yeah, you'll have options to
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buy. Yeah.
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All right. There in that little village
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like area. I mean, it's the stage.
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Obviously, you know, I feel like one of our biggest inspirations
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setting is probably tack because those guys do such a good job
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and in a lot of different ways from the signage to the, you
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know, the organization to the courses themselves.
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I think overall it's a good job, great sense of community and fun
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and I think this is is doing that a little bit, like with our
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own twist, but obviously that was a big inspiration.
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Same with the guys from Yuma. I know you haven't shot out
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there yet, but we all have and they do a killer job of that
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too. People come out, stay the
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weekend, have fun, shoot like. So it's kind of fun taking
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pieces from here and from there and saying this would be nice,
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maybe we do that. And then also I like to go to
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other events like Supercross or a golf event or a baseball game
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and say like what are maybe they doing that hasn't been brought
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to this yet and try to kind of like incorporate new stuff, you
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know? Yeah especially you know sports
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or or organizations or events that do it well why not bring it
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over You know it's like attacked us something well no shame and
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and trying to replicate that for for the event here.
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Actually I haven't done the Yuma one but sounds like sounds like
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it's a a good a good event put on it ran really well.
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So, you know, we're trying to, we're trying to make that.
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Brand here too. Shout out to those guys, they're
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all coming over. I think they're rolling with
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like 20 people, which is pretty cool.
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But from Yuma, yeah, so that'll be cool.
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Those guys running pretty heavy. But yeah, attack, there's not
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too much. I mean, we had a cool Airbnb.
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I will say that, you know, every time we've been to San Antonio,
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it's like an hour drive to the venue.
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Yeah, it's that's the only downside, I think of that one,
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yeah. And this time we were only like
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20 minutes. So it was really nice.
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And the weather was the best. It's been that I've been there.
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It wasn't that hot. It was like kind of overcast.
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Rained only like 10 minutes the whole time.
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We got to shoot at 6:30. So.
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They don't even kick people off till seven normally, but we got
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to go out at 6:30 and that was pretty sick.
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So yeah, that's that's another cool part about our shoot is you
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could start super early. Daylight 6:00 AM is when it
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starts shooting light and the, you know, hunting season for
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turkeys is 5:30-ish depending on sunrise.
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Sunrise was at six O 4 a few days ago at least.
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So it's you start at six and be done before the the heat picks
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up. Whether you just checked today
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you posted online looks phenomenal.
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Low winds. 79 will get a little hot if you go to the middle of
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the day, especially if you're doing some of the longer courses
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with some steeper hikes. But it's still cool weather.
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Good night weather. Yeah.
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For for San Diego you. Definitely want to start early
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though. I would suggest that you know.
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Let's kind of talk about like the the spread of the courses
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and how people can kind of shoot through the day, you know, so,
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so we have three different courses, right?
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20 targets each. Kind of a easy, medium and hard
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spread. You know it.
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Within those courses, there are harder and easier ones for sure.
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Even on the easy course, there's some tough shots, small targets,
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dark targets, smaller windows, limbs that might be in the way.
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So it's still supposed to be a challenge, but it's it's scaled
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down, you know, just so it's not too discouraging for somebody
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that might not have a lot of experience in 3D events.
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So for somebody that's going to go through the day, how how do
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you think it is a good plan if you're going to try to tackle
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all three courses? 60.
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Targets if you wanted to, yeah. If so, I have actually got that
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question from people, so I think it's a good one.
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First of all, I want to say 2 before I answer that.
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But I think it's interesting because the BFW of course,
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technically is the easiest one. I think it has the hardest shot
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of any of the courses which is kind of interesting that that
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rock the yeah yeah it's that one is going to be a slaughterhouse
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you. Know it's from last year.
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It was a rock. A a bear.
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A little bear, right. Little, tiny, little, tiny bear
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hidden in the rocks that took out my arrow.
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Yeah. Many others and.
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Many others, Yeah, it's close. To that very close to that
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location, it's. Totally twisted and right the
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target. 'S even.
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Smaller, right? The target we're using is so
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small. Darker too.
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And it's dark. Yeah, So, but yeah, no.
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First of all, I don't think too many people are should even try
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to do that unless you're pretty physically capable.
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If you are going to do that, I would suggest starting real
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early and knocking out Bo Disciples course the biggest
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hardest one first and then do probably bow and arrow shop just
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kind of lands in the middle and then VFW lasts cause VFW in
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reality it's not even a mile of course, it's like I think it's
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like .95 whereas the. Boat disciples.
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Is 2 miles and it's mostly all uphill, so I would say that
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would be the order you want to do it, 'cause if you have to do
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that one last and it's hotter and you're already done too,
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you're going to be struggling. Or even do your beat the bow
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disciples only in the morning. Start early, knock that one out,
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take a siesta and a lunch break, come back at like I'd say one
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last course or last shooters out.
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So is at 4, right? Because we've got so much
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daylight now, so you don't have to be off the course at 4, just
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the last shooters will go out at 4:00.
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So I'd say if you went out at one and did the other two
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courses, one's like a mile and change.
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Yeah, bow, bow and arrow shop. I think it's like 1 1/2 bow
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disciples, definitely the longest at 2:00 and it's I think
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the toughest high. I mean that last four or five is
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brutal. That's.
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Going to be pretty exposed, pretty exposed in the sun later
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in the day. We were up there today doing
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some work and so it'll be hot on that face.
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So yeah, probably knocked that one out first and then kind of
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work down a little bit lower. I think the other courses might
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have more shade I think so than that one.
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But if you can stay for the two days recommended that you do 2
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on Saturday, one Sunday morning, you know or if you if you can't
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say you can't come to late Saturday, do one hang out and
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then and then do maybe you know 1:00 and 2:00 on Sunday even
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that's just you know that's 40 targets that's the that's you
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know equivalent of the bear ass shoe and that's what we did the
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other day on a on a Sunday morning and that took that took
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us a little bit. Yeah, a little bit of hang up.
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We're some slowing on the course, but that's kind of why
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we design it with three different courses, try to spread
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people out, try to get the flow as best we can without any
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backup. Obviously that's kind of one of
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the bigger gripes of any shooter on a 3D course for sure is
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having a wait for sure. And I think, I think last year
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that went really smooth because it felt like it was pretty dead
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out there. But in reality it was there was
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a lot of people that attended. This year is going to be more
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people attending and hopefully it still feels the same, like
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there's just not that many people there, which is great.
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I also want to touch on the kids course.
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Yeah, we never have. This year, you.
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Know Brianna designed us all the signs, but that was a really
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cool sign. I think, you know, the kids
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course sign and I just think it's something kids are going to
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eat up for. Sure.
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I mean there's, you know, a lot of, I mean almost any.
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I don't think I've been to one that has other than TACK that
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has the future. Champion.
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So that's. Where we got our inspiration,
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Yeah, we got kicked off. It's always like.
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Here's a kid. It's a pole on the main course
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and they have to walk forward. But getting to have one that is
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solely dedicated to them, it's flagged out like theirs.
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There's no pull in returns for them.
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It's a full trail, 10 targets. I think we decided today.
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Two are doubled up. But they'll be very clever
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targets, a lot of fun ones for kids, whether it's dinosaurs or
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spiders or koi or or I don't. Maybe a hanging bat.
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I think that would be fun for kids.
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They love to watch. I love to watch things.
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I don't think I. Told that one of EU mobile.
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I got, I got a text, a bat would be cool, but yeah, so I think
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the kids course is very fun for them to get to go out and and
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feel like they're doing their own course, yeah.
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That's because they are that way.
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They don't. You know adults can can do their
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their course and not maybe feel like you know they have to bring
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the kids along or that the kids have to try to walk because a
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lot of these shots there isn't an opportunity to walk up on
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some of ours There are you lose the.
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Window if you. Want A lot of them are designed
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with windows, with topography or whatever the case, to, where
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you're not really able to walk up and so a kid wouldn't really
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be able to shoot. Now they're just walking around,
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not having fun, whereas this is now just for them.
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Rules again are it's poundage based or is it age based what I
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think? It was poundage based under 35.
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# max Yeah. 14 or 13 and under. Go check the flyer.
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Of course, don't let me misquote it.
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And I think 40 lbs and under is the Max, which is a huge amount
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technically. I was just shooting that like a
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few months. Try.
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Try not to be like us and and shoot the kids course if you if
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you are outside of that range, leave it for the kids so we
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don't blow up the targets the human guys are nice enough to
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lend us. They're small too, so those
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small targets get blown up a lot.
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I did want to say too 11 cool part about the kids course as
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well as all the others and this was kind of a last minute idea.
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But each course has different color flags, including the kids.
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So the kids has blue flags. VFW, which is the easiest course
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has green. The bow, bow and arrow shop,
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which is kind of the medium, has orange and then the hard course
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has red. So I think it's kind of cool
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that it's all color coordinated. The kids got their own flag
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color I think is pretty cool. You know, I just think there's
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like a lot of little details and Tov here did a great job on the
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signs. The wood signs we have this year
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are stellar and your build is awesome.
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I'm looking forward to seeing a lot of people stop and taking.
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Pictures Yeah, yeah. Yeah, which is what we.
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Always do with the tax. These are, these are arguably,
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you know more, more fast. I think they need signs.
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Oh. For sure, you know.
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Printed signs. So Ted did a great job on those,
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yeah. I will say though, back to the
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the kids thing. That's by no means that kids
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can't go shoot the other with their parents.
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Absolutely they can. If they got to skip the target,
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they got to skip a target, skip them.
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Yeah. If.
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You're a sniper out there. Go ahead.
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Yeah. Take the kids out to all of
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them. If you want wears them out, you
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know they can go sleep in their tents when their parents go out
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to the concert. The concert going to be insane,
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by the way. I mean Jack, he didn't.
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I don't know. I'm going to say it when I
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introduce him, but he has been working on the set for like 3
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months. I mean, he really been working
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on it. I've heard him.
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He played the whole thing for me and Brianna.
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It's awesome. So I think that'll be really
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cool. Something new.
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And then another big new thing this year that's different from
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last year is we had no giveaways last year, no vendors this year.
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The giveaway list is, I mean, it's got to be one of the best
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ones. It's so good to give it is.
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There's high quality. Throughout it's.
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Shocking. You're not.
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You're not just getting like a, you know, a phone back.
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No, just getting. No, you're getting, you know,
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flagship bows, a lot of equipment, stabilizers, arrow,
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stuff that that we all like and run strings.
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You know arrow? Size arrows.
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A lot of good stuff. So yeah, I.
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I think that's cool in the shots we finally announced, yeah.
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So let's go. Let's go through because so
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that's a new, a new flyer out now for people to view.
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And we haven't really talked about it at all, but hopefully
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if you're watching and explain it to your buddies and whatnot,
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but it'll be very visible there. I mean that like we said, the
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signage is insane. This year you will not.
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Get lost. And will not be on.
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You will know where everything is.
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I'd rather have two buds, but. There's going to be so you know
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stop me at any point or correct if anything is wrong but we
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decided so noon to four is the on Saturday is the first window
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time availability to shoot two different challenge shots.
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So we have a 60 yard steel target which I know that sounds
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far, but the whole the. The window's pretty.
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It's a. 6 1/2 inch window It's not your tiny little like if.
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There wasn't steel there. You'd probably hit it nine times
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out of 10, but because. There's steel.
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It's. Like hitting golf over water,
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You know, like you. Just you can't.
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Get your mind out of it, yeah. And then it goes straight into
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the water. So that's one of them 60 yard
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steel target 6 1/2 inch hole. The second one is a 30 yard
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Turkey shot, but you have to hit the 12 ring.
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We'll have I think 2 turkeys out there.
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So we don't hold up the lines and you don't want to blow up
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arrows. So you could switch but between
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the turkeys if you wanted to and then pricing for those.
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So there's two different options.
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You can do $5 and you get 2 shots at whichever you can
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choose, whichever challenge shot you want.
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So if you think you're going to be better at the steel target,
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do the steel target. If you think you're going to be
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better at the Turkey, do the Turkey.
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But you get two challenge shots and you get a free entry ticket
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with it. So yeah, you.
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Blow up two arrows on the steel you still?
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Got a ticket? Bummer, but you're still going
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to be around as. Long as you shoot because you
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you have to shoot and then you get the auto entry.
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But if you just pay the money, you do not get the auto entry
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unless you actually shoot. You're paying to shoot and then
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that's like a bonus once you do, correct?
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And then you go, it'll be at the practice range.
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You won't buy your your tickets, your challenge shots at your
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check in from 11:00 or 12:00 to 4:00.
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You'll go to the practice range if you want to.
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James and Matt will be there and that's where you can purchase
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your shots. Do your shots and however, when
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you say you make both, you buy a $5 ticket.
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You do both Your shots. Say you get both.
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So you're going to get 2 entries plus 1/3 and then they'll give
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you your tickets and you can go up.
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And this is the best part, you can put them in whatever you
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want. So you want to put all three in
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the bow. You want to put all three in the
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UV slider. You want to split them up?
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You can. And then the second one, which I
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think is the best deal, 'cause when you think about it and you
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go to like different shoots, it's typically 10 bucks for a
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ticket to go in, like a major giveaway, especially like
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flagship bows. So this one, it's 10 bucks.
21:03
You get 2 free tickets, but you have to shoot your shots.
21:07
But you get seven shots, no? 55.
21:09
Sorry, five shots. So for a total of potentially 7
21:13
tickets. So for 10 bucks you could
21:15
potentially have seven tickets, but at minimum you get 2 for
21:19
shooting. Normally at things it's 10
21:22
bucks, you get 1 ticket. So I think it's a great deal.
21:25
You get 2 or you potentially get 7.
21:27
Everyone's going. To get to be involved, even if
21:30
you're not a great shot, 5-10 bucks, whatever it is, you're in
21:33
the mix. Yeah, only takes 1 ticket,
21:35
that's right. And some of the items like, I'm
21:37
interested to see because there's going to be clear
21:39
containers in in front of each drawing.
21:41
And for example, for the arrows, there's three sets of a dozen
21:44
arrows up. So like, there's three winners
21:46
of that. And if you look and you're like
21:48
shoot, there's only six tickets like you'll have a good chance
21:50
to win, you know? And then if the bow's stacked,
21:53
you go maybe I'll not do that one, I'll do these ones.
21:56
So I think the fact you can choose is pretty cool.
21:58
Play the odds, yeah. And and we prefer by the way,
22:02
cash, if you're going to do the giveaways, we will have Venmo,
22:05
but cash is just easier. So that would be better.
22:09
And then yeah, I can't wait. I think that'll be really fun,
22:12
being up there, filming and cataracting, I'm sure there.
22:14
Will be a lot of chapping going on, No?
22:17
Especially. At the bantry.
22:19
Yeah, the steel basically is a self call out if you.
22:23
The thing is, everyone. Knows the thing.
22:24
Is if you were to put that steel target out there, it's a 6 1/2.
22:28
It's just saying it's so easy, Yeah, but because it's steel,
22:32
right? Yeah, just start to wander
22:35
around. 6 1/2 inches. But so that's a big.
22:44
Change this year, yeah. Uh huh.
22:47
And what was it going to say? Oh, so Sunday 7:00 to 11:00,
22:51
right? You'll also we'll flip flop.
22:53
I think we share me and whit share time with.
22:56
Us that day with you guys? That day for for the giveaways
23:02
and you go up, they'll be up at the merch booth up at the top of
23:04
the campground, so you can come in there, put your tickets in
23:07
whatever you want. You can do it again Sunday if
23:10
you want, or one day we will not do the giveaways at the event.
23:16
That way everybody gets a chance whether you come one day or you
23:19
come the whole weekend 1050. 5:00 on Sunday you're still
23:23
going to have a chance to shoot the drawings, with the exception
23:27
of one or no, will you? Scrap that.
23:30
Yeah. OK.
23:30
So yeah, now everyone will get a chance, which I think is pretty
23:33
cool. I I really think some people are
23:34
going to come and be like, here's $100 and then it's like,
23:37
OK, three times, you know, or 500 of a.
23:40
Flagship If a flagship bow costs, you know, 1500 X amount
23:43
and you and you you know put 100 bucks worth, I bet.
23:46
You think what's in there? It's not a.
23:47
Bad. I bet people.
23:48
Will it's a good invest. I bet people are going to drop a
23:50
lot better than my lottery if they if you're if you're a good
23:53
shot. They're horrible.
23:54
If you're a good shooter and you go, if I drop $100, that gets me
23:58
whatever that is. Five for 10.
24:00
You could Max get 7 for 100 maxi 7070 potential for 70 tickets
24:04
and. You're like, I know I can
24:05
probably put 80% in the steel. Yeah, then it's like that is a
24:10
lot of opportunity to win some stuff if not multiple things.
24:13
So I think that's pretty cool and you should.
24:15
Put in for the arrows too if you're trying to shoot that many
24:19
shots. Is that true?
24:20
Just in case, put some of your. Tickets in pair, I bet.
24:26
I bet the arrows are going to be up there.
24:28
I think #1 will probably be the core Sr. if I had to guess.
24:31
Number 2 will probably be a bet. It's a UV site if I had to
24:34
guess. Sad we have that and then. 3rd
24:36
probably the PSE package and then after that or.
24:40
I actually think the stabilizers.
24:42
Will be a sleeper. Stabilizers the tricer tripod,
24:44
so the tricer. Will have a bunch.
24:46
Basically, it's going to be whatever we just.
24:48
So many crazy items you just. Bought.
24:50
One little if you just. Bought a new boat, but your
24:52
tripods 10 years old, Maybe you put isn't it?
24:54
And then? I think one thing we got to talk
24:56
about, we're kind of keeping it hidden, but the pod is the
24:58
people who watch the pod well. Before you move on then just met
25:02
last, you know factor fill out your ticket.
25:05
Oh yes, so many people for e-mail.
25:07
For phone number Instagram at. James and Matt will have Pens
25:11
down at. The They'll have or up.
25:13
At both you sit down at the the picnic benches that are going to
25:16
be right there in the practice range.
25:18
Fill out your tickets if you want, or come up to the merch
25:21
booth and fill out your tickets, but fill out your.
25:24
Ticket I for you to miss out on. Yeah, fill out your ticket.
25:28
And and like I said, e-mail, phone number, what is the best
25:33
way or put them all social, yeah put them all driver.
25:36
'S license and you have your Social Security.
25:38
Your credit card number that you did.
25:42
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bring cash and and have fun at
25:45
the raffles because me and this guy are going to be there and
25:47
it's going to. Lose all your arrows on the
25:49
course. So yeah, bring a lot of.
25:51
Arrows bring in at least 12 arrows a lot.
25:53
Of this the nice thing about, with the exception of a few
25:56
shots being that there's so much topography and hills a lot of
26:00
times. If you're willing to brave oak,
26:02
you can probably go find your arrow.
26:04
There's a lot of backstops out there.
26:05
A few are in the rocks and and it's probably toast, you know.
26:09
But but with that, with that exception, if you're willing to
26:11
look, you can probably find them.
26:12
Try not to hold up the chorus if you're if you're looking for a
26:15
while, it's probably a goner, you know.
26:17
And one other giveaway that I wouldn't talk about is last
26:25
year, one of the few complaints we heard is that the people that
26:28
came were kind of bummed they didn't get to shoot with some of
26:31
us, you know, we were all tied up working.
26:33
So this time to make that happen and also like be productive in
26:38
the event we have a shot on the course, shall I say the distance
26:41
on it. Now save the distance so.
26:43
It's long, it's extended, it's triple digits you don't have.
26:46
To say where it's at, what course it's on, yeah.
26:49
It's on one of the courses. It's triple digits.
26:52
It's sponsored by Web Western. Shout out to Web Western hats.
26:56
They just dropped us off a gargantuan box at So how it's
27:00
going to work. Me and this guy are going to be
27:02
there. We're going to be filming,
27:04
taking pictures with people, chap, assing and shooting the
27:07
shot with you is it? Sometimes I'll shoot with him,
27:09
sometimes me. We're going to be draining them
27:12
deep, draining them deep. And if you hit a certain mark,
27:15
because we're going to have the tracer tripod with bino, so
27:18
we'll be able to see if you hit it, you're going to get a Web
27:20
Western hat as well. So it's another little
27:23
inspiration from John. Shout out to John now again, if
27:25
it's broke, don't fix it. That guy's been doing that shot.
27:28
It's always fun. So we're going to take the page
27:30
that was a playbook and hit that fun little.
27:32
Tack sidebar. I talked to John for like 45
27:35
minutes at his booth and I was like, hey John, I just wanted to
27:39
pop by and tell you, I think you're the best at this in
27:42
person stuff. You are, you're incredible.
27:44
I think I'm good at it, but you are way better.
27:47
And he's like, well, I've been I've been doing it 40 year,
27:49
whatever, you know, it's like I've been doing it forever, but
27:52
it's so impressive. But yeah, that's where the
27:54
obviously the idea came from cuz it makes sense.
27:57
He gets to mingle, but at the same time you don't have to move
28:00
around all over like it makes sense, you know?
28:03
And literally they told Won a loop holed hat from the same
28:06
exact. First shot.
28:07
I think that was our first course.
28:08
It was the whole time, Yeah. It was epic.
28:10
Any drain A. Decent sized sticker on that.
28:12
We'll make a sticker like, you know, bigger than a 12, but
28:16
sure, because. Even the 10 ish 11:50 size even
28:19
on that. Target, we haven't said what it
28:20
is, but even on that target like the 10 is not that big.
28:23
It's like here. So we're trying to get a sticker
28:25
that's like maybe we can just put a paper plate, make it
28:29
classic, you know, put a little 7 inch paper.
28:32
You know, it's really tape it down so it would bounce off.
28:34
Someone's got to go walk at X amount of distance.
28:37
I won't go put it back. So Toby, what do you think kind
28:40
of breakdown because you were a part of build process last year
28:43
and obviously this year even even probably more so how, how
28:47
do you enjoy the process of building the course and throwing
28:51
ideas and making it happen? Like you know.
28:53
Hope you had fun with that I. Have and you know, for me, it's
28:57
like I just want the people to have fun.
29:00
So I envision the other courses I've been on and what's fun and
29:04
what's exciting. And I just, I just want to make
29:06
it challenging and fun and getting to have input on all of
29:10
that stuff is it is fun. And when you sit there and go,
29:13
OK, here's where the cone's going to be and there's where
29:15
the target is and you're going, this is really cool.
29:18
This is going to be one they'll talk about, you know?
29:23
Those are the fun I want to. See people.
29:24
Have fun. The ones that become like
29:26
Legendary. And I want to, you know, of
29:28
course, it's a challenge, so I want it to be challenging too.
29:31
So yeah, I wish. We could have participate.
29:34
I wish we could have taken taken video of I was going to kind of
29:37
get there, but we'll do it now. You know the course, the course
29:41
has some lines that are are used for like the regular course
29:44
that's set up or some we used last year, but we did our best
29:46
this year to kind of make new lines and when you when you guys
29:50
walk these lines you know they look, they look polished.
29:53
But when? We start with them.
29:56
They're oak. There's no window.
29:58
There's fallen trees. Grass.
30:00
You know, so they start looking nothing like what they are now,
30:04
you know, especially some, yeah. I was.
30:07
Going to list all the all the stuff we did.
30:10
Mowers. Down.
30:12
More Polar Polaris Ranger shout out to Polaris is huge.
30:16
And a little bit of step building occasionally.
30:18
So they'll start as you know. All right, we're on, you know,
30:22
shot 4 of of course two. And we kind of just walk in and
30:25
we go, OK, well, that that looks good.
30:27
That's about the range we want. Okay.
30:29
How about, how about this, window walk here, walk there,
30:32
you know, and we just kind of. We just have a vision.
30:34
For this, right. You know or and some stuff's
30:36
natural, you know some stuff. There's a good limb that that we
30:39
can use and incorporate and then a lot of it is just all right,
30:42
well, we got to get over there now.
30:43
So let's just get to cut. It's like.
30:45
This is the direction the course has to keep going for safety and
30:49
things like that and fitting all three courses in.
30:52
So it's just like, all right? Well, we're going off the trail
30:55
now. And you just what?
30:59
Was a hillside for 50 years of growth and is now a a path you
31:02
know and and. It we have fun with that.
31:05
That's the cool part too. Is today for example, flagging,
31:08
you know after lunch I was, I'll just go blast through one, you
31:12
know, VFW on my own. And it was so cool to just
31:15
'cause I all I was doing was just hustling through and
31:18
flagging, you know, And I was like how cool was it that I can
31:20
actually get here and just easily walk the whole thing?
31:23
Where is it was not possible, you know, a month ago.
31:27
It's so cool. And I think, I think people do
31:30
realize it some, But obviously it's different, 'cause I
31:32
remember last year a lot of people were like, dude, I could
31:34
tell you guys like pounded work. And I don't even think last year
31:37
we did even I don't even think a small portion of the building
31:41
that I mean. Down to like our new.
31:43
Lines this year are like some of them are cool mountains, right?
31:46
You know. New ridges and stuff that we
31:48
that we incorporated, yeah. Which I'm proud of.
31:51
I think one of the coolest ones is on Bow and Arrow shop course.
31:55
That one section, that's like, I want to call it the diving board
31:58
or something because I mean it's like you always hang out up top
32:01
and we're just like, yeah, way down and then you shoot almost
32:04
straight up. We looked.
32:05
At. Last year, that whole section I.
32:07
Mean. It's just like, yeah.
32:09
We looked at it last year and we are you know we didn't be in the
32:11
first year we were kind of like OK this this might be a bit much
32:14
but for us it was always in the back of our head this zone is is
32:17
going to get used in in in next year's shoot you know so come
32:21
this year we we got there and we said OK it looks, it looks.
32:24
It looks bad, but we're. Going to and then.
32:26
Just the the endings, of course. Two and three, I think just at
32:30
the top you. After.
32:33
Two months, yeah. If you haven't been a hand shot.
32:35
I think that's the number one thing I hear is people like when
32:39
you pop out of a window of trees and you're up at the top and
32:42
it's just this like plateau or grassy area and you look over at
32:45
the lake and it's the mountains in the background, the lake down
32:49
at the bottom with the pastures, it's.
32:51
Crazy. Take a picture.
32:53
Just enjoy. Hang out there, yeah, and you're
32:55
going to be. Tired.
32:55
So you're probably going to, you know, take a break before you
32:58
walk back down. I just told people when they
33:00
take these pictures and stuff like, you know tag the, you
33:04
know, bow disciples, Instagram or whatever, it'd be cool to see
33:06
them all. I'd love, I'm going to tell.
33:07
Everybody at check in like I want to see all the tag.
33:09
In or make a hashtag like you know BD challenge or whatever BD
33:13
challenge two and every year you could add another.
33:15
Kind of get A tag. We've.
33:18
Been talking about like all these this new stuff this year
33:20
and it's only our second year doing this.
33:22
But you know you being the bow disciples guy our main guy
33:25
obviously you know what was kind of your your vision and and your
33:31
you know why you wanted to make your own your own shoot having
33:35
done you know who knows how many local and out of state shoots.
33:39
You know, kind of the vision from, you know, two years ago
33:42
and you just kind of had an idea to where we are now with, you
33:45
know, all of this dialed and stuff.
33:48
Yeah, I'll tell you. So back in 2020, actually, I met
33:53
up with the guys from Bear State Bow Hunters, 'cause.
33:55
I mean, I've been, I've been going to their shoots.
33:56
I have a plaque in there from 2006.
33:59
So I've probably been going before that.
34:01
They used to be an Escondido, but in 2020 they're up here.
34:04
So we met up early and we said, hey, let's do this collaboration
34:08
shoot. And we had it planned.
34:10
We were going to call it the. It was a trash name.
34:14
I was gonna call it. It was, I was gonna call it.
34:16
I think the extended archery experience.
34:19
Oh yeah, it was bad. Yeah, I even have the promo
34:22
video done. I had it done.
34:24
It was always going to be the weekend of their Oak Valley
34:27
Challenge, which is the third week of May and it probably has
34:29
been for 20 years. So that's always a date that
34:32
they have had and ran. We were going to do it on that
34:35
date in 2020, then COVID hits so it gets cancelled.
34:40
None of the promo ever comes out and honestly, thank goodness.
34:43
Probably. A blessing.
34:44
I had like 2000 Subs. No one would have come to that.
34:47
Like it would have been so bad. And then, you know, it was back
34:51
in the head. So we went through for a few
34:53
years and it was kind of I messaged him and said, hey, you
34:56
know, you want to circle it back.
34:59
They said, yeah, let's meet up. So we went to Red Whites and
35:01
brews classic spot and met up and said they got I think they
35:08
actually had the idea maybe of the two day you know two day
35:11
thing and I said I think yeah I think it would work and then we
35:15
kind of like put it together and and and went for the gusto you
35:21
know and so how it worked was we came up with the agreement and
35:28
it was the same date. Once again Oak Valley Challenge
35:30
third weekend of May which is the weekend before I think
35:33
Memorial Day. I'm not mistaken.
35:35
Yeah. Yeah, every year it's the same
35:36
date for forever. The longest time ever.
35:39
Nicest. Part is like it's always.
35:41
That same date because it's always, always been that, yes.
35:44
All of the different industry. Communities that would never
35:47
change. They don't necessarily work
35:49
together. Like they don't get on the
35:50
phone, be like, oh, what we can or do in years.
35:52
But it's been here for so long that, you know, Balboas is the
35:56
first Sunday of every month, second Sunday of the month,
35:59
Alpine third Sunday of the month is always bear state well.
36:02
Bear State's usually the 4th week other than the Oak Valley
36:05
Challenge. Yeah, but so everybody you know
36:08
kind of knows which because everyone likes to go to each
36:12
other. And and support the general
36:14
archery community, yeah. You can see me or any of us at
36:17
pretty much all the all the local shoots.
36:18
So yeah, of course it's nice to be able to hit them all, but so
36:21
we planned it out and we didn't even launch it till maybe two
36:27
months before, you know, and you and me, like, went to work and
36:31
told two I don't. Brianna wasn't as involved.
36:33
Yeah, she wasn't. Brianna was actually working.
36:36
She actually got a job last. Year I was actually working to.
36:38
Go to work. Yeah, yeah.
36:40
Yeah, so out of. The country where I think.
36:43
She got back like right before it or something.
36:44
But the first one I remember my goal was, was super simple.
36:48
It was like, I want to make the best shooting course that we
36:54
can. Like let's make the best
36:56
shooting three, best three shooting courses and just get
37:01
people together to vibe and have a good time, make friends.
37:04
That's it. No fluff, no vendors, no
37:07
nothing. Just have fun and hang out with
37:10
people at night and if you want to camp, great.
37:13
And I thought year one went really well.
37:16
I thought it was smooth. I thought it was.
37:19
I think even our signage then was a little ahead of the game
37:22
with the pulling returns and stuff was great.
37:25
Camping was a blast. That's how the Jack show kind of
37:28
came to the. Jack Show was.
37:29
Kind of. Just impromptu.
37:31
Kind of. Just a pressure into singing a
37:32
few songs and. People loved it.
37:34
I mean, the whole thing grew, you know, And and this year it
37:38
was kind of like, all right, well, let's run it back.
37:41
Let's set 3 Great Courses again and maybe add a little more
37:47
production. I didn't know that would lead to
37:49
like 40 giveaway items and vendors and whatnot.
37:52
Like, I didn't know that. But it just goes to show the
37:55
support people have and it, you know, whether it's like our
37:58
partners or whatever, like it's, yeah, 'cause.
38:00
These aren't even like giveaways that it's like, you know you're
38:03
not calling people and like, hey, what will you give them?
38:06
It's like, no, it's been Instagram messages and phone
38:08
calls of like, hey, would you put this in your giveaway?
38:11
Like, oh the one we forgot is it the JQJ Q3 Fletching Organizer?
38:17
Though we don't fletch our own arrows anymore.
38:19
A lot of people do, though, but a lot.
38:21
Of people do they love to kind of put their own spin on what
38:25
works best for them and that thing?
38:28
But they but I guess again the the goal that was the goal
38:32
initially was just like let's use my platform to help grow a
38:38
local archery club and have it benefit us both and it went well
38:43
and then this year it's like let's take it to the next level
38:46
if we can. And I think we've done that.
38:48
I mean I can see the pre sales it's gonna be bigger this year
38:50
by a a pretty good margin which is awesome.
38:53
But the goal hasn't really changed.
38:56
It's still to set the best possible courses.
38:59
That's first and foremost, super safe, super hard, challenging
39:04
fun, get out there with your family, make new friends vibe.
39:07
It's the same goal. It's just a little bit more
39:09
production and next year we'll probably, I mean the goal will
39:13
probably be the same, you know, But I think to kick back your
39:16
question, go ahead doing two things.
39:21
Part of it is 2 that when you go to a normal archery shoot, you
39:25
don't want to start early or start late, and then you leave
39:28
and then you leave. And this is like we're all.
39:31
All. Of us are hunters and archery
39:33
people and and we like to banter and and compare notes and get to
39:40
know other people and and that's one thing the two day event with
39:44
with the camping and and all that stuff really brings
39:48
together adds a lot to it yeah. Green Yeah, And that just goes
39:52
to, you know, to your to your point about bringing the
39:55
community together that, like you said, often just goes, comes
39:58
in and shoots with their four 5-10 people if you're bruised.
40:03
And then? You're out and you don't really
40:04
talk to anybody else unless you're kind of waiting at a
40:06
target around. But this kind of, you know, in a
40:08
way encourages people to hang out.
40:11
You know, even if you're going to shoot two courses, maybe in
40:13
between, you're hanging out, so you can't stay the night.
40:15
But if you can, you know you're there.
40:17
I mean, last year we were playing cornhole, you know,
40:19
playing music, Jack's whole show, you know, it just kind of
40:22
creates, you know, a weekend, you know?
40:25
Yeah, similar to similar to tack where you get to hang out and
40:27
meet people and hang around for a few nights.
40:30
This is just a just a little bit smaller scale.
40:32
But for our, you know, local community, it's it's pretty big.
40:35
It's big. Yeah.
40:36
And and and and yeah, I kind of can compare it a little bit to
40:40
like go into a Stagecoach or something like that.
40:43
You know, you're not just going to see Cody Johnson then
40:45
dipping, going home. Now you're you're there camping,
40:47
having fun. That was one of the goals too.
40:49
So I'm glad you said that it was too, 'cause I remember thinking
40:52
to myself, people shoot and lead just like you said.
40:55
How do we not do that? And this was a way to do it.
40:57
But I wanted to touch on the fact that that was our first
41:03
time really any of us setting courses last year and I thought
41:08
we did a good job. And then this year it felt so
41:12
much easier. Even though we put in a lot more
41:15
work to build lines and stuff. The aspect of actually setting
41:19
the course, it felt like a breeze, like we just knew how to
41:23
do it. We didn't have to do double
41:25
shots. This year there's only two pull
41:28
and returns. I believe last year it was like
41:30
7. It's just I feel like the the
41:32
courses are definitely a lot better and I already thought
41:37
they were the best that like this county has to offer.
41:40
And maybe I'm biased, but I really thought they, well, they.
41:42
Just had such a good like topography out there compared to
41:48
unfortunately the rest of them and like Balbo's is right in the
41:51
city. Yeah, that.
41:52
That's exciting, though, to have it right.
41:54
Sure. You never know.
41:55
I I always tell people I, you know shoot Balbo.
41:58
If you, if you're driving on the 163 and you look up, you know,
42:01
you can see, you can see there's archery, right?
42:03
Yeah, right. There, next to people don't.
42:04
Have to nobody. You go to.
42:06
The desert and right. But like if you can put before
42:08
to you know spend the money on a flight and a hotel or Airbnb to
42:12
go to attack to get this like mountain, you know, 3D
42:16
experience fair state pretty much off the canvas.
42:21
The canvas at Henshaw that we have to work with and build
42:23
courses off of while it's not you know 8000 foot ski resort
42:29
with lifts and and a bunch of you know it's not.
42:31
That it's not Pine tree, but. For our area, it's pretty nice,
42:36
yeah. No.
42:37
No, no shade any of the other areas and their courses, they do
42:40
the best with with their areas. But, you know, us getting
42:43
involved up there just kind of gives us the best chance to put
42:47
on, you know, difficult, more elaborate.
42:50
You know. Fun courses that kind of have
42:53
more of that tack feel. Yeah, Oak.
42:55
Woodland some nice somewhat getting.
42:57
Chilly he is, I've seen. Him shivering over.
43:01
Here. Oh jeez.
43:02
Bring me up A. Park is a park.
43:05
I mean, this is, this is a jacket.
43:07
What were we talking about? Nothing.
43:10
We were. Just saying how, how you know
43:13
we're fortunate to have the area that is that is Henshaw to build
43:18
off. But because it's it's it's big.
43:20
It has hillsides. It has trees.
43:22
It has, you know, rocks, it has all.
43:25
It's got a beautiful lake and it's just got a great nearby.
43:28
Restaurant Two of them, sure. The campground, Julian.
43:31
Pie Company is right up the road.
43:33
Julian's right up the Cabins. Tabins.
43:36
Oh, you finish, Matt. Get.
43:39
It poo, but one thing we didn't touch on.
43:42
I know he's been trying to do a short on it and we just haven't
43:45
made it up there. But you know, I think it going
43:48
back to like, it's just a community thing, like a great
43:50
weekend vibe, especially if you can't make it to attack for a
43:53
vacation. You come, you shoot the morning
43:57
and then a lot of these people coming from Riverside, eight
44:01
other, you know, states. LA.
44:05
Yeah. You come, you set up your camp,
44:08
you shoot in the morning and then it's a 20-30 minute drive
44:12
to Julian Julian Pico, famous Winola.
44:18
Insider Yep. So many options to.
44:21
Go. Have lunch if you wanted to go
44:23
down to Ramona like some. Boutique stores.
44:26
Antiques. Yeah, my favorite.
44:29
And then make it back for, you know, the concert in the evening
44:31
and you grab food from the food truck and then yeah.
44:35
And then wake up and do it again Sunday and then head home.
44:38
That's. One thing too I want to touch on
44:40
really quick is I get to see the pre sales that come in and the
44:45
majority of people do buy the two day pass but a fair amount
44:49
by a one day pass into my head. I'm kind of like one day pass is
44:52
cool but it's just not the a same experience.
44:56
Like if you're going to come special people from out of state
44:59
obviously two day but even the people local if you don't have
45:02
something going on I'm like you really should do the two day and
45:05
we're going to have that option. If you bought the one day, you
45:07
could just give 20 more bucks from 40 to 60, which is a two
45:11
day price and up up your ticket. We're going to make that easy
45:14
because I think a lot of people will probably want to do that
45:16
once you. Shoot Saturday like, oh man, I
45:18
wish I could shoot this other course.
45:20
I just ran out of time today. I'll either come back if you
45:23
weren't planning to camp or or, you know, a truck or whatever.
45:27
Or if. There's I don't know if there
45:29
will be, there's very limited cabins left at the campground,
45:32
but if there is ones available, those are super cheap.
45:35
You can go grab one of those, you know, or there's what is the
45:39
name, name of the new one that's it's not new, but right up the
45:41
street, Josie. 'S hideout, Josie's hideout.
45:44
It's right by that. It's attached to it.
45:45
I forgot what it's called off top of my head.
45:47
But they actually have discount. So if you do stay there, if the
45:50
information is on one of the Flyers, they will give you a
45:53
discount if you're coming to the event.
45:55
I believe of 10%, maybe even 20% if it's two nights.
45:59
I think. So there's options and yeah, I
46:03
just. I think it's going to be a
46:04
banger. I think the, I think that one
46:08
thing that I think really sets our build apart, partly because
46:11
we're blessed with the best place to set here is there's not
46:17
really any time when you're walking the courses that you see
46:22
another target on the course. Yeah, we only see the one you're
46:25
shooting at. That's I.
46:27
Feel like another like lesson learned from TACK you know, is
46:31
when you have enough trail space to spread them apart.
46:34
Spread them apart because the trails are really, and you've
46:37
said it before, like the trails are almost your more favorite
46:40
part than the shops themselves that.
46:43
Windows. Yeah, the little we like.
46:46
Trees this time, yeah, yeah. Down into a Creek bottle and
46:51
backed up and whatnot. We you cross a lot of creeks
46:54
this year, but the water is fuller so wear.
46:56
Boots. Yeah, I would suggest long
46:58
pants. Like, honestly, if I were to
47:00
shoot it, I probably would shoot it in shorts.
47:03
But I think most people, I was shooting shorts, I think.
47:05
Most pants and boots are going to be your best friend.
47:08
Definitely. Boots, I think.
47:09
That's you know probably brings up a good opportunity for us to
47:12
say the course, course is, but one in particular are
47:16
challenging. Yeah, they are going to.
47:18
There's there's a bit of uphill and you know, start early,
47:23
prepare to go a little slower, bring water, whatever you got to
47:26
do. And if maybe ones you say you
47:28
say you're got a bum knee, you know, maybe maybe skip that one.
47:31
If you're only going to do 2, by all means shoot all three.
47:35
You know, if you can't end up getting it done, no, no big
47:38
deal, you know. But there, there, there is some
47:41
challenge in these courses. There are.
47:43
Just prepare for that there. Are water stations on all the
47:47
courses relatively around the middle point of each course?
47:51
There will be a sign at that third course, the Bow Disciples
47:55
course, that says, you know, hey it's uphill from here, pack your
47:58
their water bottles so you don't have to use little cups.
48:00
So you could take a couple water bottles with you.
48:03
No ones going to charge you for them.
48:04
They're free. Throw them in your pack because
48:07
you're want to going to want them going up that hill and then
48:11
at the end of that one there's an extra water station.
48:13
So if you're dying, you could grab some before you take the
48:16
walk back to you, because that one has the longest little walk
48:20
back to camp. If you end up getting, you know,
48:23
and again just just to the increased production value of
48:26
this year on the back of scorecards or phone numbers, is
48:29
that right? You end up getting stuck,
48:31
getting hurt, whatever out there.
48:33
Ted Ted's a medical professional, so he'll be there
48:35
to help you out. Former, but he's still I think.
48:39
He'll be grabbing someone else as well.
48:40
Oh. You'll have that option, you
48:43
know? But we did our best to make
48:45
every shot safe, you know? And that's kind of the thing
48:48
when you shoot your stations real, yeah, there's there's an
48:51
actual professionals nearby, you know.
48:53
But when you shoot more, when you shoot, are you doing?
48:56
Just all your credentials go out the window for that weekend.
48:59
Or, you know, they don't apply on weekends.
49:03
No. Not on weekends or holidays.
49:05
But you know. When you shoot more courses,
49:08
sometimes you find yourself at some shots where you're like, oh
49:10
goodness, this is, this is a little hairy, you know, maybe
49:13
I'll wait, you know, until that shot happens before I walk.
49:16
I think all of our shots, all sixty of them, are Beyoncé.
49:19
Very safe. Oh.
49:20
My gosh. The backstops, the angles, the
49:23
lines, the path we put, none of that, so.
49:25
Much thought into that. I mean we even on next them all
49:28
and go, is this potentially no turn?
49:31
Turn on the 3D, make sure there is truly enough topography there
49:35
to make sure you know what's on the other side is safe.
49:38
And then like walking it like the one where you went back and
49:42
the shots on course was at 1:00 and 2:00 where we just literally
49:46
walked in different lines. You walked one course, we walked
49:48
another and you're shouting and we're like, OK, Yep, Nope.
49:51
If it sounds that close, we change.
49:53
Like 2 targets, you know? But yeah, the flow is going to
49:56
hopefully be really good this. Is a good chance you know.
50:00
Again, course archery, 3D course etiquette.
50:05
You know, if you're a little slower, whether you shoot, you
50:08
know you just need a little more time.
50:10
You're a little slower on your feet.
50:12
You just want to take your time and enjoy the scenery.
50:14
Whatever the case is, all good, take your time, be safe.
50:18
But if somebody's behind you, a smaller group, A faster group,
50:21
whatever the case is, if you get to a spot, just let them pass.
50:25
Just like in golf, you let them play through that.
50:27
You're going to have a better time because you're not going to
50:29
feel pressure. No one's going to be behind you.
50:31
They're going to be able to get through and and just finish
50:34
faster as they should be able to.
50:36
Right. So just either shoot a target
50:38
together and let them play through, either step off to the
50:41
side, let them play through. But that generally helps so flow
50:44
and it's just good etiquette to. The and try to keep groups like
50:49
at a Max of 6 and. There are some extremely
50:53
beautiful scorecards. Again, you can keep score with
50:57
your group. If you want to compete against
50:59
each other, whatnot, make a game out of it.
51:01
You can, but it's not a competition.
51:03
It's not a. Although I am going to offer the
51:05
option if you want to turn in your scorecard, I'm going to
51:08
have a box where you can do it and I will if you put it in.
51:12
I'm going to make an excel sheet or probably have Bri had to make
51:14
an excel sheet where it ranks will.
51:17
Not touch where it? Will rank you.
51:19
So if that's what you want, that'll be on the website and
51:21
you can actually see, hey, where did I stack up of guys who want
51:24
to turn it in? Are you scouts?
51:25
Honor Scouts honor you. Turn it in if.
51:28
If you lie, you lie not. You're the only one that knows,
51:30
but you know. Yeah, but just do your best to
51:32
keep an accurate score if you're going to do that.
51:34
Just just for the people that do want to see how they I would.
51:37
Love. And we're scoring twelves, by
51:38
the way. So we're scoring twelves, yeah?
51:40
They're on the scorecard, the back.
51:41
Of the scorecard once again has a graphic if you don't know how
51:44
to score, shows you how to score color coordinated really easy
51:47
and yeah I think it's man I can't wait.
51:50
Yeah, we're. Close A lot of work's gone in
51:52
over the last few months. We started to weigh earlier this
51:55
year almost too early, where we cut past and then had them grow
51:58
back, you know, but actually. We got.
52:03
Somewhere in between the two years is going to be a sweet
52:05
spot for next year. We braved all the oak for you
52:08
guys and and cut that out and there.
52:10
Will still be some oak, like on the side of the trails or
52:13
whatever. We can't get it all.
52:14
Oak Snakes, ticks, all that. All that good stuff.
52:19
As James keeps saying, it's an outdoor event.
52:21
It's an. Outdoor event challenging.
52:22
Outdoor Event Know What You're Looking For and.
52:25
Keep your hands inside the vehicle at all times, but I
52:28
would. Not it's going to rip, not
52:29
venture off the trails and places.
52:31
Not because it's unsafe, just because there is there's but we
52:36
had a lot of water this year and last year, a lot of growth and
52:41
there is a lot of poison oak just generally in that area.
52:44
So just don't walk off the trails and you're fine.
52:47
The trails. I've mowed some trails in there.
52:49
We've whacked. We've all chopped that look like
52:51
freeways. You could line your partners
52:54
upside won't hit. Poison oak if you stay on the
52:56
path and at the target the bottom.
52:58
Of your boots night. But it's like, 'cause you can't
53:01
get them all, you just can't wield them all back.
53:03
No, it's it. But if.
53:04
You do though, remember? DFW is sponsoring a They're
53:09
going to have a booth and they're going to have a poison
53:11
oak decontamination station as well.
53:13
So when you're done, you can hit them up.
53:15
Do that. If you see a snake, call one of
53:17
the numbers on the back of the scorecard just to let us know.
53:21
Or try to just obviously stand the way of the snake and you
53:24
know, keep it moving but call it in and that way we can at least
53:27
check or maybe go catch it or whatever.
53:29
So catch it. Yikes.
53:31
But yeah, life is but a dream. It's going to be good. close,
53:37
man. It's it's like last year went so
53:39
smooth as far as the flow. I just hope this year goes the
53:42
same, but I'm really confident it will and I think the
53:44
aesthetics are way better. The campground is maybe we touch
53:48
on the campground a little. It's certainly not a five star
53:51
campground, but it's not bad. It's nice, it's very cheap.
53:54
You can. Have a car, a tent, a trailer,
53:57
an RV, a cabin top tent, a cabin.
54:00
Yep. And.
54:00
Whatever you want, it's going to be great.
54:03
Porta potties around. There's dumpsters.
54:06
There's a actual bathroom with showers, even though it's a
54:09
little. Rustic, you.
54:11
Can probably go one night without a shower and maybe be
54:14
better off. I don't.
54:15
Know bring some. Bring some wet wipes through the
54:17
old and you. Just check in right there at the
54:19
the check in SO. When you fall off 76, there's a
54:22
place called Lake Henshaw Resort right there.
54:24
You'll pop in. It's first comes, first serve on
54:26
camping, so just go in there, get your spot locked in and
54:31
you're good to go. So we're looking forward to
54:33
seeing everybody. Can't wait?
54:36
Bring some cash for those giveaways.
54:38
Bring an extra $20.00 cash if you want to upgrade to a two
54:42
day. Bring at least 12 arrows.
54:44
Unless you're a very good shooter and let's let it rip.
54:48
Anyone. Anyone want to close?
54:50
You know anything else to add? Nope.
54:52
That's it. It's.
54:53
Almost Sunsetting on our podcast and we're going to get to a few
54:58
more of these and some some dinner, so we'll see you guys in
55:01
a few weeks. Cheers.
55:02
Everybody. And I know I got to sip it
55:04
after. That's right.
55:07
Cheers.