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NEW VIDEO: MISSING JERSEY WOMAN'S CAR FOUND DISABLED IN PINE BARRENS: WHERE'S DANIELLE? · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. New video just emerging after
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  Speaker 1: a missing Jersey woman's car is found disabled in Pine
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  Speaker 1: barrens tonight. Where is Danielle? I mean to see Grace.
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  Speaker 1: This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us.
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  Speaker 2: A New Jersey woman's baffling disappearance mild camping leaves her
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  Speaker 2: mother searching for answers. What happened to Danielle?
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  Speaker 1: How could this beautiful young woman just vanish off the
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  Speaker 1: face of the earth just like that? I don't buy it, okay,
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  Speaker 1: how did the whole thing start? Listen?
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  Speaker 2: Saturday, Sue texts Danielle to check in, but doesn't get
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  Speaker 2: a response. That's not completely unusual, But as Sue sends
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  Speaker 2: several more texts and call multiple times with no response,
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  Speaker 2: she begins to fear something is wrong. When it's been
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  Speaker 2: a week with no contact with Danielle, Sue reports Danielle
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  Speaker 2: missing to the New Jersey State Police officers begin and
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  Speaker 2: intense investigation, trying to retrace Danielle's steps.
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  Speaker 1: Joining me in All Star Pale, but straight out to
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  Speaker 1: Danielle's mom suit Quack and Bush, Miss Qurack and Bush.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us. I'm going to get
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  Speaker 1: to the video in just one moment. But miss crack
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  Speaker 1: and Bush, when is the last time you spoke with
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  Speaker 1: your daughter?
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  Speaker 3: Friday night, April twelfth, and what was your conversation? It
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  Speaker 3: was a good conversation. She said she was camping. I
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  Speaker 3: wondered why she was there. I guess there was, Well,
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  Speaker 3: there was an eclipse.
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  Speaker 4: Then we talked. We talked.
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  Speaker 3: I prayed with her. She struggled since the loss of
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  Speaker 3: her brothers and her father and grandfather. But she was
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  Speaker 3: sounding okay.
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  Speaker 4: She it's just a regular conversation.
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  Speaker 1: She was camping to look at the eclipse. That was
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  Speaker 1: my understanding, okay, And she seemed in good spirits. She
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  Speaker 1: was okay. When you state that you prayed with her,
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  Speaker 1: that's because she had suffered loss, as had you.
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  Speaker 3: What had happened In two thousand and fifteen, I lost
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  Speaker 3: my oldest son to suicide. Not ten months later I
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  Speaker 3: lost my youngest son who was serving as a marine.
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  Speaker 3: Twenty twenty, Danielle lost her grandfather that she was living
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  Speaker 3: with to COVID, and a month later her father to
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  Speaker 3: COVID as well.
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  Speaker 1: Your family has been through so much and now this
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  Speaker 1: Mss Quackenbush, how as a crime victim myself. I'm always curious,
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  Speaker 1: how do you get to sleep at night? How do
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  Speaker 1: you take your mind off Danielle missing even for five minutes.
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  Speaker 3: It's not easy. I have strong faith that this will
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  Speaker 3: be made right, but it's it's not easy.
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  Speaker 1: Miss Quackenbush spoke to her daughter that day. Everything was fine. Listen.
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  Speaker 5: Danielle Lopez is in frequent contact with her mom and
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  Speaker 5: calls her from the Brendan T. Burns State Forest Campground
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  Speaker 5: Friday night. Sue tells her daughter it sounds like fun.
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  Speaker 5: Danielle hasn't been camping since she was a little girl.
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  Speaker 5: Danielle tells Sue to stop worrying. When Sue questions if
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  Speaker 5: it's warm enough to be camping, Danielle ends their conversation
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  Speaker 5: with the usual I love you and we'll talk soon.
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  Speaker 1: Joining me is Danielle's mom, Sue Quackenbush. Miss Quackenbush, you
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  Speaker 1: stated that everything seemed fine. You guys typically prayed together
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  Speaker 1: over the phone. That was not unusual. So she goes
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  Speaker 1: out camping to see the eclipse, and you are actually
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  Speaker 1: worried that she might get cold. Yes, well, describe that
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  Speaker 1: part of the conversation. I just said it's April's cold
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  Speaker 1: at night. She assured me she had a heater, a campfire,
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  Speaker 1: and but she was okay. She struggled a lot after
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  Speaker 1: the losses. Danielle struggled a lot. So I what do
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  Speaker 1: you mean by struggled.
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  Speaker 3: After the loss of her father. She had resources and
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  Speaker 3: so she wasn't working. It didn't change anything, just I'm
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  Speaker 3: a mom having lost two children.
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  Speaker 4: I was.
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  Speaker 1: Very much in touch with her, calling.
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  Speaker 4: Her twice a day.
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  Speaker 3: We didn't always speak twice a day, but it called
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  Speaker 3: her twice a day.
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  Speaker 1: So you guys were in very very close contact. Has
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  Speaker 1: there ever been a time when it's been over a
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  Speaker 1: month that you don't speak to her?
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  Speaker 6: Never?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, to the moment that Danielle seemingly just vanished off
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  Speaker 1: a very very popular hiking trail listen.
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  Speaker 7: At nine to eleven am Saturday morning, Danielle is spotted
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  Speaker 7: on surveillance footage buying coffee from a wah wah in Vincentown,
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  Speaker 7: about a ten minute drive from the campsite. Danielle does
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  Speaker 7: not appear to be in distress. Danielle uses a wah
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  Speaker 7: Wah rewards card she shares with her mother, Regarded by
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  Speaker 7: both as emergency money to make her purchases that morning.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, there is Danielle and this is nine to eleven
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  Speaker 1: am on a Saturday morning, spotted in a wah wah
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  Speaker 1: in Vincentown. That's only a few minutes away from the
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  Speaker 1: campsite where she was. Now, she's obviously not in any
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  Speaker 1: distress at all, and she uses the Wahwah rewards card
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  Speaker 1: she shared with her mom. Now, Miss Kragenbush, why did
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  Speaker 1: you regard that as quote emergency money? What does that mean?
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  Speaker 3: Danielle, I had resources, but as a mom, if she
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  Speaker 3: ever needed asked if she ever needed anything. We've had
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  Speaker 3: it since she was probably eighteen that we've shared it.
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  Speaker 1: But there were.
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  Speaker 3: Times where she'd grab a coffee in a wah wah
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  Speaker 3: sandwich and use it, but not very often. So when
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  Speaker 3: I saw this, I wondered, But at least I knew
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  Speaker 3: where she was.
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  Speaker 1: When did you realize, Miss Kragenbush, something was wrong.
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  Speaker 3: I talked with her on Friday night, and by Monday,
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  Speaker 3: when I couldn't reach her, I was growing increasingly concerned
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  Speaker 3: every day.
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  Speaker 1: So you believe something happened between the Saturday morning at
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  Speaker 1: nine to eleven when we see her at wah wahs
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  Speaker 1: and by Monday morning something was horribly wrong.
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  Speaker 3: It's when I started becoming alarmed, and then there were
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  Speaker 3: fires in the forest. I woke up that morning to
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  Speaker 3: news on the news that there were fires in the forest.
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  Speaker 3: And that's when I call called the missing persons.
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  Speaker 1: Straight out to doctor John Delatory, joining US licensed psychologist,
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  Speaker 1: and you can find him online at resolution FCS dot com.
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  Speaker 1: Dotor Delatory. Thank you for being with us. And that
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  Speaker 1: is what we call routine evidence, habit evidence, evidence of routine.
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  Speaker 1: They talk to each other about twice a day. They
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  Speaker 1: were texting back and forth all the time. We have
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  Speaker 1: seen timeline start based on something as seemingly innocuous as
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  Speaker 1: a dog barking. And that's the Oj Simpson case when
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  Speaker 1: Nicole Brown's dog Akita began to moan and wail and
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  Speaker 1: the neighbors heard it and they had never heard anything
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  Speaker 1: like that before. Here, I would place the time the
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  Speaker 1: timeline starting at about nine to twelve after she walked
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  Speaker 1: out of that wah wah on a Saturday morning, probably
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  Speaker 1: to Sunday night, because by Monday morning her mother realized
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  Speaker 1: something was wrong.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, not only that, is that by Monday morning, you
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  Speaker 8: would think then that she would have responded back to
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  Speaker 8: her mother, right. So it's in that time frame that
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  Speaker 8: the behaviors of someone really kind of define what exactly
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  Speaker 8: it is that's going on. If they're still around and
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  Speaker 8: still able to communicate, you would think that they would
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  Speaker 8: engage in a behavior that would suggest that everything is fine.
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  Speaker 8: If they're not able to do that, then perhaps something
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  Speaker 8: else got in the way of them being able to communicate.
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  Speaker 8: Lost the phone, or the power goes out on the phone.
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  Speaker 8: Something happens in that timeframe where she's not able to
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  Speaker 8: say hey to other people, right, whether it's friends, whoever
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  Speaker 8: it is that's in her life, is she's not able
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  Speaker 8: to tell them everything's going okay. Right, I'm just out
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  Speaker 8: here doing for myself now.
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  Speaker 1: With us Brian Vazgibbons Direct Operations USPA Nationwide Security. He
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  Speaker 1: leads a team of expert investigators specializing in locating missing people. Brian,
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  Speaker 1: the fact that she suddenly stopped, I know it's called
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  Speaker 1: routine evidence evidence of habit, but I would start the
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  Speaker 1: timeline right there because that was a huge departure from
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  Speaker 1: her normal died in the wool routine of talking to mom,
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  Speaker 1: praying with mom on the phone, texting back and forth.
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  Speaker 1: That starts it for me that Saturday when she steps
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  Speaker 1: out of that wah wah.
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  Speaker 4: Certainly.
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  Speaker 9: And I'm a student of renowned cold case detective Jay
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  Speaker 9: Warner Wallace, who talks about these investigations in three phases,
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  Speaker 9: the fuse, the explosion, and the fallout. Okay, so when
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  Speaker 9: we're talking about what's leading up to her disappearance, we
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  Speaker 9: start that timeline where the departure from her routine behavior begins.
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  Speaker 9: A lack of a response back to a text, lack
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  Speaker 9: of communication.
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  Speaker 4: We know that her car broke down.
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  Speaker 9: These are all things that are that fuse of what
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  Speaker 9: happened that described to us the lead up to this event.
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  Speaker 1: Ms Kraich. I think, actually, now that I'm analyzing it,
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  Speaker 1: the timeline starts later based on the new video evidence
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  Speaker 1: you've seen of the go pro But let me ask
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  Speaker 1: you this, So did you call and report missing?
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  Speaker 4: Yes? I did.
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  Speaker 1: When was that and what happened when you called to
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  Speaker 1: reporter missing?
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  Speaker 3: I believe it was the twenty third that I called Again.
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  Speaker 3: I woke up that morning seeing that there were forest fires,
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  Speaker 3: significant forest fires in the Penn State forest area, and
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  Speaker 3: without having been able to reach her, I didn't was.
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  Speaker 3: I saw her calls, the texts weren't going through, the
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  Speaker 3: calls weren't going through, and I gave it some time
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  Speaker 3: and called. Wednesday, the twenty fourth is when I called
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  Speaker 3: to reporter missing.
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  Speaker 6: Immediately the search is on Listen, believing Danielle is still
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  Speaker 6: in the area. State police launch massive searches for Danielle
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  Speaker 6: throughout the state park. Detectives are also searching for her
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  Speaker 6: blue Tudor two thousand and eight accent that hasn't been
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  Speaker 6: seen since Danielle disappeared. The searches get whiter and whiter
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  Speaker 6: until Danielle's car is found abandoned a week later, roughly
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  Speaker 6: fifteen miles from the campsite. The car is parked in
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  Speaker 6: the center of a large puddle on Los Lane Road,
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  Speaker 6: a dirt path deep in the Penn State Forest.
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  Speaker 1: Sydney Sunder joining me Crime online dot Com investigative reporter
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  Speaker 1: explained to me about the car being found. What can
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  Speaker 1: you tell me about that now? This is after wahwahs.
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  Speaker 10: Yes, ma'am so. A week into the search for Danielle,
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  Speaker 10: her car is found about fifteen miles from the campsite
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  Speaker 10: where she was staying. The car was parked on a
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  Speaker 10: dirt road deep in the Penn State Forest. This is
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  Speaker 10: a heavily wooded area. It's very rural, but it seems
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  Speaker 10: to be a fairly popular trail. And her car is
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  Speaker 10: parked in this giant mud puddle and it's just sitting there.
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  Speaker 10: The battery is dead.
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  Speaker 1: Now, isn't it true? When they jumped it, the emergency
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  Speaker 1: blinkers immediately started fling, and we believe that the flashing
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  Speaker 1: blinkers is what ran out the battery.
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  Speaker 10: That's correct, Nancy, That's exactly what police believe happened.
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  Speaker 1: Crime Stores with Nancy Grace. Okay, let's see a map
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  Speaker 1: of what we're talking about. Tell me again, Sidney, where
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  Speaker 1: is the car as it relates to the campsite and
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  Speaker 1: as it relates to wah Wahs.
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  Speaker 10: So the campsite is kind of directly in between both
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  Speaker 10: of these points we see on the map. So she
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  Speaker 10: goes to this Wahwahs in one direction, where her car
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  Speaker 10: is found is fifteen miles from the campsite in the
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  Speaker 10: other direction. So her car is found disabled on this
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  Speaker 10: lost lane road that goes straight through the Penn Forest.
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  Speaker 10: It's a popular trail, but it's rural. It's a dirt path,
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  Speaker 10: it's a heavily wooded area.
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  Speaker 2: A camping trip in New Jersey's behind barrens turns into
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  Speaker 2: a missing person's. Danielle Lopez's car found abandoned and disabled.
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  Speaker 2: Why did Danielle Lopez vanish?
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  Speaker 1: Why does she vanish? And where is she right now? Listen?
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  Speaker 2: Three months after Danielle is reported missing, a couple comes
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  Speaker 2: forward with the possible sighting of Danielle. They give cops
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  Speaker 2: dash cam footage of an encounter with a woman on
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  Speaker 2: Los Lane Road around six pm April thirteenth. The camera
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  Speaker 2: catches Danielle's car seen passing on Lost Lane Road. Danielle
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  Speaker 2: appears to be alone. A few minutes later, they passed
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  Speaker 2: Danielle's car again, but this time it's stuck in the
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  Speaker 2: mud a few feet up the road. The couple checks
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  Speaker 2: on Danielle, who politely declines their offer of aid. Danielle
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  Speaker 2: does not appear distressed, and the couple goes on their way,
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  Speaker 2: leaving Danielle in the woods alone.
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  Speaker 1: That adds to our timeline, which is extremely significant. Straight
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  Speaker 1: back out to Danielle's mom joining us tonight, begging for
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  Speaker 1: your help in finding her daughter. This family has been
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  Speaker 1: through so much COVID deaths, suicide, more and now this
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  Speaker 1: the mom just wants her daughter back. Tell me what
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  Speaker 1: you know, Miss crack and Bush. About this couple that
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  Speaker 1: comes forward with the signing of Danielle.
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  Speaker 3: They passed her initially at four o'clock. That's in her car.
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  Speaker 3: They again see her at five point fifty. That's the
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  Speaker 3: last time they saw her. The car was moved out
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  Speaker 3: of the puddle by some people. They I think I
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  Speaker 3: sent you the video that they pulled her car from
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  Speaker 3: the puddle.
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  Speaker 1: Not much further than that. Hold on, let's see that video,
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  Speaker 1: Miss crack and Bush. Hold on just one moment. Let's
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  Speaker 1: pull that up for everyone to see. Okay, go ahead,
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  Speaker 1: Miss crack and Bush.
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  Speaker 3: So again, this is probably about eight o'clock at night,
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  Speaker 3: with Danielle last being seen or spoke and with by
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  Speaker 3: the go pro people at five fifty.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, here is her vehicle getting pulled out of the
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  Speaker 1: mud by some good Samaritans. Now a couple comes forward
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  Speaker 1: with a possible sighting and they give this dash cam
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  Speaker 1: footage of an encounter. It was a lost lane road.
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  Speaker 1: The camera is capturing Daniel's car. Now, this is where
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  Speaker 1: she was pulled out of the mud. Tell me what
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  Speaker 1: the couple says, Miss Quackenbush.
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  Speaker 3: She asks, I mean when she's walking once they know
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  Speaker 3: she stranded. Yes, yes, they do not offer help, and
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  Speaker 3: she doesn't decline any help. She clearly says, what do
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  Speaker 3: I do? And can you push me out of the puddle?
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  Speaker 3: And when they say no, I mean, daniel appeared no threat.
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  Speaker 3: She was coherent, speaking clearly to them, and they say no.
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  Speaker 3: She said, well, I guess I got myself into this,
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  Speaker 3: I got myself out And she just asked them the
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  Speaker 3: direction towards Oswego Lake, that's the direction she was last
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  Speaker 3: seen walking. That was at five point fifty. The people
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  Speaker 3: that towed the car out did not report to the
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  Speaker 3: police or to the park rangers or anyone that there
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  Speaker 3: was a car out there. The GoPro people did not
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  Speaker 3: render any help to Danielle, nor did they call the
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  Speaker 3: park police or nine one one to say there was
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  Speaker 3: a stranded female alone.
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  Speaker 4: As at night is approaching, you know.
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  Speaker 1: To Matthew Mangino joining us, a high profile lawyer, former
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  Speaker 1: district attorney and author of the Executioners Toll, Matthew Mangino,
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  Speaker 1: miss Krackenbush is just trying to find her daughter and
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  Speaker 1: bring her home, and she is laying out time after
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  Speaker 1: time after time when people could have helped her but didn't.
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  Speaker 1: Under our law, in our jurisprudence, there is no duty
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  Speaker 1: to help anyone. So as much as we feel it's wrong,
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  Speaker 1: it's not a crime. Well, certainly, Nancy, it's not a
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  Speaker 1: crime not to render.
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  Speaker 11: Aid in a situation like this. I mean, it's unfortunate,
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  Speaker 11: it's lost opportunities to help somebody and possibly prevent a
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  Speaker 11: tragedy here, you know, would very easily, you know, just
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  Speaker 11: call the park rangers, just call.
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  Speaker 12: The police, Just call nine to one one and say, hey,
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  Speaker 12: you know, Knight is approaching and there's a woman by
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  Speaker 12: herself stranded in the woods. You know, you don't necessarily
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  Speaker 12: have to go try to pull the car out, but
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  Speaker 12: at least do something, you know, like any person in
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  Speaker 12: a similar situation might do.
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  Speaker 13: Just make a phone call, just call the authorities, and
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  Speaker 13: a tragedy may be inverted, you know.
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  Speaker 1: To Ms Krachenbos joining us, she's begging for your help
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  Speaker 1: to try to find Danielle. So there were multiple times
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  Speaker 1: people could have helped Danielle. Isn't it true she actually
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  Speaker 1: asked them to help, and you said, you're so polite,
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  Speaker 1: They declined.
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  Speaker 3: She said exactly what do I do, which indicates that
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  Speaker 3: the person's in an unexpected situation and does not know
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  Speaker 3: what to do, so that is asking for help. The
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  Speaker 3: go pro people have changed their story several times based
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  Speaker 3: on information as it comes out. I suppose to appease
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  Speaker 3: their responsibility in this, but nonetheless it would have been
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  Speaker 3: completely different investigation had they not under any obligation, but
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  Speaker 3: had they, out of just being doing the right thing,
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  Speaker 3: had called help for her.
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  Speaker 1: When you say the go pro people change your story, okay,
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  Speaker 1: what was the first story and how has it changed.
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  Speaker 3: The first story, they reached out to me saying that
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  Speaker 3: they regretted it. Danielle seemed kind and genuine. The later
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  Speaker 3: indications are that the police have the times wrong. But
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  Speaker 3: the police dumped that GoPro they have the information correct.
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  Speaker 3: They said that Danielle said she had cell phone service
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  Speaker 3: and could call someone. Indications are she did not have
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  Speaker 3: any service in that forest. It's wooded so heavily that
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  Speaker 3: a lot of people don't have service out there. They've
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  Speaker 3: just changed up their story to fit how this story
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  Speaker 3: is going. Again, they didn't come forward with information for
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  Speaker 3: three months into the investigation, where the investigation initially led
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  Speaker 3: me to believe Danielle would not be coming back based
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  Speaker 3: on evidence in the car.
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  Speaker 4: That wasn't so that.
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  Speaker 3: That turned out to be different. And I refer to
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  Speaker 3: Danielle in the past tense as a result of that,
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  Speaker 3: I refer to her in the present tense now. But
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  Speaker 3: I have no way of knowing what's happened to her.
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  Speaker 1: What was miss Crackenbush, What was found in the car?
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  Speaker 3: They say nothing. Now now they come back at me
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  Speaker 3: and say there wasn't evidence in the car. They didn't,
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  Speaker 3: they didn't follow the evidence.
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  Speaker 4: They are now.
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  Speaker 2: Danielle Lopez is all smiles as she mis coffee at
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: a Wawas gas station, her last known sighting. Now does
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: new video offer a glimmer of hope to the missing
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: woman's family.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: This beautiful young woman goes camping to watch the eclipse,
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: She speaks to her mother, and then she's never seen again.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: Where is Danielle? Her mother? Sue Quackenbush is with us
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  Speaker 1: tonight asking for your help. The tip line is six
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  Speaker 1: zero nine eight eight two two thousand, repeat six zero
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  Speaker 1: nine eight eight two two thousand. Then hit Extension twenty
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  Speaker 1: two fifty four six zero nine eight eight to two thousand.
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  Speaker 1: There is a five thousand dollars reward in the search
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: for Danielle Lopez.
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  Speaker 7: Now I want you to hear what a tipster says.
• 21:28
  Speaker 7: Another tipster comes forward, claiming to have pulled Danielle's car
• 21:31
  Speaker 7: out of the mud after she was last seen walking
• 21:33
  Speaker 7: away on April twelfth. The tipster says the Hyundai's partially
• 21:37
  Speaker 7: blocking the road, so he peeks inside and decides to
• 21:40
  Speaker 7: toe it out of the mud. After spotting the keys
• 21:42
  Speaker 7: through the window, the good Samaritan turns the car back off,
• 21:45
  Speaker 7: but flips on the flashers, hoping the car's owner will
• 21:47
  Speaker 7: get the message the car has been rescued and be
• 21:49
  Speaker 7: pleased with the handiwork on their return.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Sidney Sumner joining US Crime online dot Com investigative reporter, Sidney,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: explain to me again how this tipster fits into the
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: timeline and now we've got that video.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, Nancy, So people have come forward since the search
• 22:07
  Speaker 10: for Danielle began, so at first we knew she had
• 22:10
  Speaker 10: stuck this wah wah. We found her car a few
• 22:12
  Speaker 10: weeks later, but we didn't know what happened after that? Wohah,
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  Speaker 10: the tipster is coming forward. The couple with the GoPro
• 22:19
  Speaker 10: placed Danielle on Lost Lane Road around four to six pm,
• 22:24
  Speaker 10: so that's where we see that sighting. And then afterwards
• 22:28
  Speaker 10: this other person comes forward claiming around eight o'clock they
• 22:32
  Speaker 10: see Danielle's car. It's kind of blocking the road. It's
• 22:35
  Speaker 10: stuck in this mud puddle. So they tow the car out,
• 22:39
  Speaker 10: and in this video we can see Danielle's headlights on,
• 22:42
  Speaker 10: so the car was obviously functional at this point. When
• 22:45
  Speaker 10: they tow the car out, the good Samaritan who decided
• 22:49
  Speaker 10: to do this, turns the flashers on, hoping the owner
• 22:53
  Speaker 10: will be able to more easily see the car in
• 22:54
  Speaker 10: the dark, will return, realize their car has been towed,
• 22:58
  Speaker 10: and be able to get the heck out of there.
• 23:00
  Speaker 10: Danielle never returns to the car. That's why the battery
• 23:03
  Speaker 10: was dead when cops find it two weeks later.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Okay, now a more clear timeline is emerging. Brief as Gibbons,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: can you believe there were so many chances to help
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: her and no one did? First? As Miss Quackenbush is
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: relating on, people come along and she says, I'm stuck.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: What do I do? And they decline to help her.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: The next thing, you know is Sydney correct me if
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: I'm wrong. After that, another tipster comes forward and says
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: he finds the car sitting there in the middle of
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: the road, well not completely in the middle, but blocking it,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: so he takes it ut himself to pull it over
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: and flip on the emergencies. But in that short space
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: of time she goes missing.
• 23:50
  Speaker 9: Incredibly frustrating Nancy. Two opportunities that wasted precious time for Danielle.
• 23:59
  Speaker 9: Here right, we have the opportunity number one. The couple
• 24:03
  Speaker 9: sees her walking down the road. I understand maybe in
• 24:07
  Speaker 9: the first instance they didn't call for help, but almost
• 24:10
  Speaker 9: two hours later, to see a woman alone as darkness
• 24:15
  Speaker 9: is setting in in the woods, that call needed to
• 24:19
  Speaker 9: be made to authorities to help her.
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: Ms.
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  Speaker 1: Krackenbush tell me everything you observed on this newly emerging video,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: the go pro video, from beginning to end. What do
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: you see?
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: I see Danielle pretty carefree. She is just going along
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: down to this lake Oswego. The significance of Oswego. I
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: don't know why she was going to that lake. It's
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: the name of the college. Her uncle went to my thoughts,
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: so she might have called him from there. She's carefree,
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: she's just cautious, and they exchanged pleasant trees, and she's
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: on her way.
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  Speaker 4: Then they come across.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: Her stranded, and then they go on to see the
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: car stuck and stranded.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, one more time, very slowly. From beginning to end.
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  Speaker 1: Miss Krakabush has seen this video. LA Law Enforcement has
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: not released it yet. From beginning to end, what exactly
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: do you see in the video?
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: I see Danielle walking. I can tell she's confused as
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: to what to do. Why do you say she's confused?
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: She didn't know what to do.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: I saw the apprehension like, uh oh, I've just got
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: myself into a situation here.
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: That's what as a mother saw. She didn't know how
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: to get out of it.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: But evidently there were plenty of people around that day
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: and the fact that she just disappeared within that window
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: of time.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: Were the go pro people men or women?
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: It was a man and a woman according to the people.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: But I don't hear another woman's voice in there, and
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: don't see either one of them.
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  Speaker 4: The GoPros.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: Something mounted to the dashboard I only hear his voice.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: And what is he saying to hermus Krackenbush can help
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: you crime stores with Nancy Grace.
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  Speaker 5: New Jersey State police have searched both the campground and
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: Lost Lane Road on foot, horseback, ATVs and with dogs, drones, helicopters,
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: and a marine unit, turning up no new leads in
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: Danielle's case. Officers say they've conducted dozens of interviews and
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: run down every tip they have received to no avail.
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: Cops say there is no evidence pointing to foul play,
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: but the investigation is still open and active.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Ms Qrackenbush, what is your response to law enforcement saying
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: there's no evidence of foul play?
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: Initially they said there was under suspicious circumstances. Evan said
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: that to me, and they say it's active, ongoing and
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: there'll be more searches. But I could watch that go
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: pro VIDI about another three hundred more times. I just
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: know this investigation would be completely different if either of
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: those people that could have helped.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: I've got to say, Matthew Mangino with me, veteran trial
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: lawyer in the Pennsylvania jurisdiction. Matthew, I find that very
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: odd when you see a lady alone, a young woman
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: alone in a disley wooded forest at night, and she
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: asked for help, and the words Miss Quackenbush said were,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: I can't help you. I can't help you. I find
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: that very very unusual, to the point of being suspicious.
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it is certainly strange.
• 27:58
  Speaker 12: I mean, at a minimum, you know you would say,
• 28:01
  Speaker 12: to a woman's stranded in the woods, if you feel uncomfortable.
• 28:04
  Speaker 11: About putting her in your car, say hey, go.
• 28:07
  Speaker 12: Back to your vehicle.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: I'm going to leave and I'm going to call for help.
• 28:11
  Speaker 12: They don't have to give her a ride out of
• 28:13
  Speaker 12: the woods necessarily, but at least give.
• 28:15
  Speaker 14: Her some direction and provide her with an opportunity to
• 28:19
  Speaker 14: get some help. I mean, their.
• 28:21
  Speaker 12: Failure to do anything in this situation not only is
• 28:25
  Speaker 12: improper in terms of trying to find Danielle.
• 28:28
  Speaker 13: Immediately or help her, but also making it very difficult
• 28:34
  Speaker 13: to properly investigate this case because so much time passed
• 28:37
  Speaker 13: between when she was last seen and when she was
• 28:40
  Speaker 13: reported missing.
• 28:41
  Speaker 10: And that's unfortunate.
• 28:43
  Speaker 14: If they had done something earlier, at least you could
• 28:46
  Speaker 14: have had an immediate, meaningful investigation of her disappearance or
• 28:53
  Speaker 14: much better, they would have found her at her car
• 28:56
  Speaker 14: and helped her and got.
• 28:57
  Speaker 11: Her out of the woods and back home.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: If it's given is I'm question the words I can't
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: help you, Not that I question was Krackenbush. I'm sure
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: she's telling us what she saw on that GoPro and
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: what she heard, But that level of disregard for this
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: young woman alone out in the woods at night, on
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: foot asking for help, I can't help you. To me,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: that rises to a level of suspicion on whoever had
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: that GoPro.
• 29:27
  Speaker 9: Certainly, and this is contrary to what we see in
• 29:30
  Speaker 9: most missing persons cases that take place in the backcountry.
• 29:35
  Speaker 9: Folks that are camping, hiking, exploring these backcountry areas typically
• 29:40
  Speaker 9: provide a genuine and tremendous amount of assistance to somebody
• 29:44
  Speaker 9: in need of help. So this is outside of the
• 29:47
  Speaker 9: norm of what we typically see with these types of cases.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm just trying to make sense of it.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: On Sidney Sumner joining us Crimeline dot com, Sydney, what
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: exactly are police saying? Are they saying they don't suspect
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: foul play?
• 30:02
  Speaker 10: That's correct, Nancy. According to detectives with the New Jersey
• 30:07
  Speaker 10: State police, they have no evidence supporting foul play being
• 30:12
  Speaker 10: involved in her disappearance.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: Delatory, do you ever get tired of hearing that a
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: young girl or woman goes missing? I remember when Stacy
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: Peterson went missing and her husband, a cop, says she's
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: just with her new boyfriend that would be Jerry Peterson,
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: and everybody just accepted it. I mean, over and over,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: she's dead, over and over and over we hear no
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: foul play. Why does that keep happening? People just chalk
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: it off what she's slung up with another guy that
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: didn't happen.
• 30:45
  Speaker 8: Yeah, the problem is is the decision making that goes
• 30:47
  Speaker 8: into when you're conducting an investigation, because when you don't
• 30:52
  Speaker 8: find something as an investigator, as just a human being,
• 30:55
  Speaker 8: when you don't find evidence of something, you can jump
• 30:57
  Speaker 8: to the conclusion that the thing that you would be
• 31:00
  Speaker 8: typically doing an investigation didn't happen. And that's a falsehood, right,
• 31:04
  Speaker 8: That's that's a complete falsehood because any number of things
• 31:08
  Speaker 8: could have contributed to an investigator not finding the evidence
• 31:12
  Speaker 8: of foul play. And currently we're seeing a lot of issues,
• 31:15
  Speaker 8: including with this so called couple with the GoPro that
• 31:19
  Speaker 8: needs to be investigated further. If you if you investigate
• 31:22
  Speaker 8: under the assumption that something happened, then you can start
• 31:25
  Speaker 8: looking for things that maybe support it or don't support it.
• 31:28
  Speaker 8: But you can't just outright say because then that's another
• 31:32
  Speaker 8: issue that's coming into play with not being able to find.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Daniel ms Krackenbush. Have you met with the go Pro couple?
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: No, No, they won't. I asked no.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: No to say, they've asked what I've asked them if
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: they would release that go Pro video. To me, the
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: investigation is with the Major Crimes Unit. It is not
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: with missing persons. The investigtion is with the Major Crimes Unit.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: So that indicates that a crime or something that they
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: know that a crime has occurred.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: So them saying they don't suspect foul play, you don't
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: believe that because this has gone to Major crimes.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they never said that they don't suspect foul play
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: to me, they have not said that.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: So the go Pro couple, you say you have not
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: met with them, though.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: The police asked them not to have any further communication
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: with me after asking them if I could have the video.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: So you asked for the video? What did they say?
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: The State Police asked them not to release it.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: Why.
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: I don't suppose there is a why. I guess it's evidence.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: I can't say they just I would watch that over
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: and over and over and over, and I've only been
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: given limited time to see it, in each time looking
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: for jewelry she had on, or looking at it differently,
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: but I've been allowed three times to see it.
• 33:02
  Speaker 7: Danielle Lopez is five foot four inches tall, one hundred
• 33:05
  Speaker 7: and thirty five pounds, with brown hair and brown eyes.
• 33:07
  Speaker 7: Danielle usually wears glasses and was last seen wearing a
• 33:10
  Speaker 7: black long sleeve shirt, blue jeans, and light colored shoes.
• 33:14
  Speaker 7: Sue Quackenbush desperate to bring her daughter home and asking
• 33:17
  Speaker 7: the public for their health. There's a limited time five
• 33:19
  Speaker 7: thousand dollars reward for information leading directly to Danielle Lopez.
• 33:23
  Speaker 7: If you have any information on Danielle Lopez, please call
• 33:26
  Speaker 7: New Jersey State Police Missing Persons Unit six h nine
• 33:30
  Speaker 7: eight A two two thousand, extension twenty five fifty four,
• 33:33
  Speaker 7: or call the Community United Efforts Center twenty four hour
• 33:36
  Speaker 7: hotline at nine to one zero two three two one
• 33:39
  Speaker 7: six eighty seven.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: There is a five thousand dollars reward in exchange for
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: information leading to Danielle Lopez is whereabouts now. Everyone that
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: seemingly passed her and did nothing is in farc is
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: in stark contrast to.
• 33:59
  Speaker 7: This September first, five days after Gabby of Patito leaves
• 34:03
  Speaker 7: a restaurant in Wyoming crying while Brian Laundry is angry
• 34:06
  Speaker 7: with staff, Brian Laundry arrives in the Northport home he
• 34:10
  Speaker 7: and Gabby Patito share with Laundry's parents. Brian Laundry has
• 34:13
  Speaker 7: driven Gabby of Potito's van back to Florida, but Gabby
• 34:17
  Speaker 7: is not with him. When he arrives, he.
• 34:19
  Speaker 15: Is apologizing, but I guess I said it in like
• 34:21
  Speaker 15: a mean tone, and he really frustrated with me, and
• 34:24
  Speaker 15: he bought a car and told me to let's take
• 34:26
  Speaker 15: a breathing, but I didn't want to see a breather
• 34:28
  Speaker 15: and I wanted to get going.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: We're out of water. More upsets, Yah, didn't help? More
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: upset Yeah, And.
• 34:38
  Speaker 15: So our goal was to come here and come retil
• 34:41
  Speaker 15: our water.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: Are you guys living the van right now? On travels?
• 34:45
  Speaker 10: Yeah?
• 34:46
  Speaker 9: Okay.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: An opportunity for law enforcement to have saved Gabby Potito's life. Instead,
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: they named her the aggressor and sent the couple on
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: their way. She was then murdered by Brian Lawlaundry, who
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: then drove her for a transit back across the country
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: and started scheming and plotting to hide what had happened.
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: Ms.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: Krackenbush, you state that you look at that go pro
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: video when you had the limited access to it over
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: and over and over again of your daughter.
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: Why it's the last known I have of her.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: I'm just stuck by the fact that they didn't offer help.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: I hope to see something new each time, but again
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: I don't have it, so I can't look at it.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: I've only seen it three times.
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: Again.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: Danielle's boyfriend didn't report her missing for several weeks after
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: I did, so there's wonder about that as well.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: That's true, Sydney Soner. Her boyfriend did not report her missing.
• 36:04
  Speaker 10: Correct, Nancy. The boyfriend who apparently she was camping with
• 36:07
  Speaker 10: that weekend did not report her missing.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Sidney, do we know why he did not report her missing?
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, obviously they had split up, but why did
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: he leave her to start with?
• 36:19
  Speaker 10: Well, Nancy, we know that Danielle was not alone at
• 36:22
  Speaker 10: the wahahs, but police had not released who she was with.
• 36:26
  Speaker 10: She was traveling with someone Saturday morning, but correct by
• 36:30
  Speaker 10: four pm she was alone on Los Leanne Road. We
• 36:33
  Speaker 10: don't know why the boyfriend abandoned her, where he went,
• 36:37
  Speaker 10: if he truly abandoned her. We know that police have
• 36:40
  Speaker 10: spoken with him. He's given a statement, but police had
• 36:43
  Speaker 10: not released any details about what he told them.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: Miss Quickenbush, you stated that go Pro is the last
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: known siding of Danielle. When you were watching it over
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: and over, what did you hope to learn again?
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: I only three times, but I don't know what's to learn.
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: But if I know the police have watched it hundreds
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: of times, I just hope if I saw anything something.
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: I know that her tent was removed from.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: The campsite and she had been paid through some more time.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: So I just would like to see the evidence or
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: the car. If there's no evidence, I'd like to see
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: her things that that might lead to something that maybe
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: only a mother knows and detectives don't.
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: I search.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: I do something every day for this and getting the
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: billboards and trying to.
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: Come up with answers.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: Where did you put together the money for the reward?
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: That is the Q Center the Community United Effort for
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: Missing Persons out of Wilmington, North Carolina that offered and
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: put up the reward. The billboard time was donated. After
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: many phone calls to billboard companies, they did donate that time.
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: The billboard will be up.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: For thirty days. Brian, do you ever just get exhausted
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: with hearing moms and family members seemingly doing it all
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: on their own, all alone, trying to find their daughter.
• 38:25
  Speaker 9: It tears your heart out, Nancy, And that's one of
• 38:28
  Speaker 9: the reasons that we keep doing what we do at USPA,
• 38:33
  Speaker 9: is to provide a voice, in some shred of hope
• 38:37
  Speaker 9: to these families who have endured so much.
• 38:39
  Speaker 10: Ms.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: Quick and Bush, I have a little girl. I cannot
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: imagine life without her or my son. What is your
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: message to everyone listening tonight to.
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: Please please reach out. Someone knows something. This someone he
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: knows something. I reached out to the Gabby Potito Foundation,
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: I reached out to many foundations just.
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: Wondering how to get more attention for this.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: So, Nancy, I really appreciate you taking the time to
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: do this for Danielle. I just want people to know
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: that infectious smile, her kind and generous ways, how important
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: family is to her, that all matters. I love her deeply,
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: and I'll never stop doing whatever it is I can do.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: Miss Rackenbush, We're not just airing this. We are praying
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: for answers and that somehow Danielle is brought back to
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: you again. The tip line is six zero nine eight
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: eight to two thousand, extension two five four repeat six
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: zero nine eight eight to two two thousand. There is
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: a five thousand dollars reward for information leading to Danielle Lopez.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: We remember American hero Detective Terrence Green, Fulton County Sheriffs,
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: shot and killed in the line of duty, Survived by
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: wife turned widow, Chavelle, and sons Marquis, Isaiah, Willie and Samuel.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: American hero Detective Terence Green, Nancy Grace signing off goodbye
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: for