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Full Show Podcast: 04 September 2025 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Andrew Dickets on
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Speaker 1: earlier this show with one Root Love where you live
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Speaker 1: news Talks.
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Speaker 2: There'd be good morning to you. Thank you for choosing
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Speaker 2: the show. We're here until six and coming up over
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Speaker 2: the next sixty minutes. Good news, students are seeing teaching
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Speaker 2: as a valid career. Enrollment numbers are up substantially. We're
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Speaker 2: going to look at this in about five minutes. How
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Speaker 2: can we make Google and Meta pay more tax because
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Speaker 2: they're currently taking the mickey. A new report tells us how.
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Speaker 2: We'll talk about this in ten. This rugby game this weekend,
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Speaker 2: boy is becoming quite a thing. We'll have more on
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Speaker 2: this toon. And our creaking justice system. The Chief Justice
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Speaker 2: has pointed out the stresses what needs to be done.
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Speaker 2: We'll talk to former High Court Judge that Ron Young
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Speaker 2: just before six o'clock today. We'll have correspondence from around
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Speaker 2: New Zealand and Mitch became from the United States of America,
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Speaker 2: and you can have your say by sending me a text.
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Speaker 2: The number is ninety two ninety two. Small charge applies.
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Speaker 2: It's seven after five, It's closely the fourth of September.
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Speaker 2: Trump has head out at President Ji and other leaders
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Speaker 2: at China's military parade. He said, please give my warmest
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Speaker 2: regards to Putin and Kim Jong un as you conspire
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Speaker 2: against the US.
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Speaker 3: I think what he says is going to make fairy
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Speaker 3: little difference to the Chinese and those who are there.
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Speaker 3: They know that this is the kind of restoric that's
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Speaker 3: going to come from Trump. Trump won't lte that others
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Speaker 3: are standing up against this, that they are showing unities.
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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, let me Putin has thanked Kim Jong un for
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Speaker 2: all his help in the Ukraine War.
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Speaker 4: I want to point out that your soldiers fought courageously
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Speaker 4: and heroically. I would like to note that we will
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Speaker 4: never forget the sacrifices that your armed forces and the
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Speaker 4: families of your servicemen have suffered.
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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, back in the Oval Office, Donald Trump has addressed
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Speaker 2: the online rumors about him being dead.
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Speaker 5: Last week, I did numerous news differences, are all successful.
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Speaker 5: They went very well, like this is going very well.
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Speaker 5: And then I didn't do any for two days and
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Speaker 5: they said there must be something wrong with him. Biden
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Speaker 5: wouldn't do him for months. You wouldn't see.
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Speaker 2: Him, okay, And we've had the release of the Epstein files,
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Speaker 2: thirty three thousand pages and several videos were released to
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Speaker 2: the public. Victims have been giving a press conference.
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Speaker 6: Statistically, one in five of your families will face this nightmare.
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Speaker 7: The days of sweeping this under the rug are over.
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Speaker 7: We the survivors, say no more.
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Speaker 6: The betrayal that occurs can be just as damaging as
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Speaker 6: the original trauma. This happens when survivors of these crimes
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Speaker 6: are not believed, when our well being is not weighed
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Speaker 6: as heavily as those who have more resources or more privilege.
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Speaker 2: And finally, to the fashion world, and you might have
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Speaker 2: had a bit of a fright if you've been on
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Speaker 2: the fast fashion site Shine Lately. It's launched an investigation
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Speaker 2: after an image of Luigi Mangiani was used to model
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Speaker 2: a ten dollars shit Now. Luigi's the guy who was
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Speaker 2: accused of murdering United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson in New
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Speaker 2: York last year. Sean says the image was provided by
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Speaker 2: a third party vendor and was removed immediately after it
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Speaker 2: was found embarrassing.
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Speaker 1: The first word on the News of the Day Early
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Speaker 1: edition with Andrew Dickens and One Root Love Where You
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Speaker 1: Live News talks that'd be.
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Speaker 2: It is a ten after five. So the Beijing Military
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Speaker 2: Parade happened at one o'clock our time yesterday afternoon, and
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Speaker 2: it's fair to say I whiked myself up about it
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Speaker 2: because I knew all the players had a lot to prove,
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Speaker 2: and they all wanted to raise one finger up to
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Speaker 2: the rest of the world. And I was expecting a spectacle.
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Speaker 2: What I got left be coals. It was soulless, it
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Speaker 2: was without joy. Everyone looked like robots, even the leaders
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Speaker 2: who I called the bag Gulli Club the other day,
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Speaker 2: and there was Helen Clark and John Key wandering around
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Speaker 2: the back going what the hell's going on? What was
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Speaker 2: going on was China showing off at super modern weapons
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Speaker 2: in an immorcately choreographed show piece. It was a very
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Speaker 2: public show of power rather than a celebration of the
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Speaker 2: defeat of fascism eighty years ago, which is why it
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Speaker 2: was held. What it said to nations in the South
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Speaker 2: Pacific is China's not to be ignored. They're strong, they're
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Speaker 2: interested in influence in our region. They are united, and
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Speaker 2: they're ready to be the big voice in the area.
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Speaker 2: And nations in the Pacific getting help from China. Often
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Speaker 2: argue that China has done nothing bad to us, unlike
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Speaker 2: those colonizers from Europe. But the ironing of that was
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Speaker 2: the parade was held in Tianaman Square, a scene where
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Speaker 2: in my living memory, China turned against its people and
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Speaker 2: massacred them. Putin sat there clapping out the right place
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Speaker 2: as Kim Jong un turned up in a Western suit,
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Speaker 2: as if to say to the world, I'm not completely crazy.
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Speaker 2: It was a very good reminder that the West is
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Speaker 2: not the world. There are billions and billions of people
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Speaker 2: in hundreds of countries that have different views and priorities
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Speaker 2: to be perceived a world normal that comes out of
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Speaker 2: Europe mostly and America lesson less. And you know it
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Speaker 2: was effective because of put Donald Trump's knows out of
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Speaker 2: joint that line you conspire against the United States of America.
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Speaker 2: You get the feeling that the president is starting to
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Speaker 2: realize that his best mates were always acquaintances and not friends.
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Speaker 2: Key and Clark greeted very warmly by g It sent
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Speaker 2: the signal we're still friends in trade, if not in geopolitics.
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Speaker 2: If current government representatives had been there, we would not
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Speaker 2: be as free of China's influence as we now remain.
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Speaker 2: It was a good way to just put some distance
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Speaker 2: between us. It's a big reminder, though, the whole thing,
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Speaker 2: that China, Russia and North Korea are here to stay.
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Speaker 2: We can't get rid of them. And yes, a lot
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Speaker 2: of their stances are dodgy, but they're allowed their perspective
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Speaker 2: because that's called sovereignty. And these guys have a lot
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Speaker 2: of clout and a clout that the West for long
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Speaker 2: times have underestimated. Andrew Diggins and we're going to talk
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Speaker 2: to Mitch McCann about the American reaction in half an hour.
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Speaker 2: With all this bad news about our education standards that
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Speaker 2: we've had lately, it's nice to get what seems to
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Speaker 2: be good news. New data shows a thirty percent jump
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Speaker 2: and teacher enrollments three five and twenty five students in
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five compared to two thousand, seven hundred the
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Speaker 2: year before. Primary up thirty one percent, secondary up twenty
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Speaker 2: eight percent, and early childhood education twenty four percent. More
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Speaker 2: people choosing teaching as an attractive career, and that can
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Speaker 2: only be good, or we'll find out next here on
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Speaker 2: News Talks atb.
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Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines on early edition with Andrew
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Speaker 1: Dickens and one roof Love where you Live, News talks
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Speaker 1: at mesquit to past five.
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Speaker 2: More teachers are on the way. They just have to
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Speaker 2: pass university first, of course. So Johnny me Now is
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Speaker 2: Chris Abercrombie from the PPTA. He's the president and good
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Speaker 2: morning to you, Chris, Good morning. So why are more
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Speaker 2: young people keen to get into teaching? What's changed?
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Speaker 8: Well, it's great that they've got an increase in these numbers,
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Speaker 8: and it's fantastic to see the two things that sort
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Speaker 8: of help teachers be all. We know the tough economic times,
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Speaker 8: people like to become teachers. They see it as a
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Speaker 8: a good career move. But also I think there's just
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Speaker 8: young people want to make a difference. They like jobs
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Speaker 8: they feel make a difference in teaching is one of them.
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Speaker 2: Can Erica Stamford and the government take credit for these
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Speaker 2: numbers or were we always going to see a bounce back?
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Speaker 8: I think there's obviously some things that they've done, Like
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Speaker 8: I think the stipend available to support people into the
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Speaker 8: career has been fantastic and very helpful. Unfortunately, the numbers
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Speaker 8: overall are still less than what we had in the
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Speaker 8: early two thousands, But there's definitely tracking in the right direction.
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Speaker 2: Will this help the teacher shortage.
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Speaker 8: In the short term No, in the long term possibly,
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Speaker 8: So we're still going to have to rely on overseas
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Speaker 8: trained teachers for this. But we a good good sign
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Speaker 8: that we're moving in the right direction, But there's still
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Speaker 8: work to be done.
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Speaker 2: And looking at the numbers, the primary teachers are up
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Speaker 2: the most, and then we've got the secondary teachers and
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Speaker 2: then the early childhood education teachers. Does that reflect the
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Speaker 2: order of need in terms of teacher shortages.
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Speaker 8: No, unfortunately it doesn't know. And secondary we need subject
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Speaker 8: specialist teachers. There's one of our key issues is that
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Speaker 8: there's no guarantee that the teacher in front of the
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Speaker 8: young person is a subject specialist. So we have that
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Speaker 8: significant need in our sector.
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Speaker 2: Yes, we're talking about that. We hear about the low
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Speaker 2: bar for university entrances at the moment, and so i'd
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Speaker 2: have to ask if you're needing these specialist teachers. Are
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Speaker 2: new teachers coming out of UNI with enough skill to
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Speaker 2: get straight into the workforce, and are they coming out
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Speaker 2: with the skills that you need to fulfill those those shortages.
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Speaker 8: Well, it's definitely, the first two years of your time
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Speaker 8: out of the teacher training at the university is really important,
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Speaker 8: so you sort of continuing that training. So schools need
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Speaker 8: to be there to upskill them. Unfortunately, with the shortages
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Speaker 8: that we're experiencing and those issues, that can be harder
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Speaker 8: to do that, but it's just vital that we get
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Speaker 8: the support to do that as well.
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Speaker 2: Well, it's all good news and I thank you, Chris
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Speaker 2: have a Cromby PPTA President on the news that we're
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Speaker 2: getting more teachers, more teachers have been and more kids
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Speaker 2: are choosing to be teachers, and that's what makes it
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Speaker 2: even better. Now the angual report from the Chief Justice
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Speaker 2: is out and it's not a good look. Shortages and resources,
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Speaker 2: lawyers and access to justice. Here's an amazing statistic. Serious offending,
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Speaker 2: including murder at manslaughter now makes up seventy six percent
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Speaker 2: of all new trials in the High Court. We are
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Speaker 2: murdering at manslaughtering if you've got any other sort of
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Speaker 2: case shutted down the waiting list. And it's something I've
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Speaker 2: been hearing from the legal fraternity for ages. We're in
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Speaker 2: a period of getting tough on crime and there's plenty
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Speaker 2: of political retic wreck about that, which is a great
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Speaker 2: little vote catcher. I get that. But when you get
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Speaker 2: tough on crime, you have to invest, and we appear
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Speaker 2: not to be keeping up with that ledger. To be
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Speaker 2: tough on crime, you need to employ more cops. We
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Speaker 2: know that's proving difficult. You need to have more prison beds,
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Speaker 2: which are expensive, and you need to have a justice
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Speaker 2: system that can keep up with the arrest, that can
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Speaker 2: process these people. And whether we've got the money or not,
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Speaker 2: it's still money that has to be spent. By the way,
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Speaker 2: the UK facing the same problems, and they're talking about
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Speaker 2: reducing their sentences and that's not something we want. So
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Speaker 2: and we do, and what is the situation? So Ron Young,
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Speaker 2: former Chief High Court Charge and former head of the
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Speaker 2: Parole Board. He's going to be joining me just before
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Speaker 2: six this morning here on News TALKSB. But next we're
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Speaker 2: talking about how to make Meta and Google pay more tax.
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Speaker 1: On your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early Edition with
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Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens and one roof Love where you Live News
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Speaker 1: Talk Sat B.
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Speaker 2: It's twenty one after five. The issue of big tech
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Speaker 2: companies like Meta and Google and Amazon not paying their
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Speaker 2: fair shares come to light again. A new report points
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Speaker 2: out that the bloodline of New Zealand sub subsidiaries making
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Speaker 2: large payments to offshore affiliates labeled as service fees as
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Speaker 2: a bit of a rought withholding tax of just five percent,
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Speaker 2: could bring an extra one hundred and thirty million dollars
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Speaker 2: in revenue to the country if we did that. And
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Speaker 2: Jeff Nightingale is an independent tax expert and joins it now,
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Speaker 2: I'm morning to.
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Speaker 9: You, Jeff, Good morning Andrew.
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Speaker 2: My question has always been how did we let big
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Speaker 2: tech get away without paying tax? In the first I mean,
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Speaker 2: you know, they're not breaking the law, they're just following
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Speaker 2: the code we set them.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, that's right. So that's a very important point. They're
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Speaker 9: not breaking the law. But the question that the report
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Speaker 9: raises is the law currently correct and does that result
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Speaker 9: in the correct results for the New Zealand economy. And
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Speaker 9: the tax is pretty low. But the problem is is
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Speaker 9: that they the big tech companies, they're using a tax system,
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Speaker 9: an international tax system that has been designed over the
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Speaker 9: last hundred years, over one hundred years ago, that deals
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Speaker 9: with sort of exports of goods and manufactured goods and
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Speaker 9: things and doesn't really cope with what I call digital
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Speaker 9: weightless services.
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Speaker 8: And so that's really the.
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Speaker 9: Problem, and that's given quite low levels of tax compared
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Speaker 9: to their turnover.
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Speaker 2: Are these service fees I mentioned dodgy, No.
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Speaker 9: They're not dodgy. They they are the way that the
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Speaker 9: intellectual property is valued and paid for under our arms
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Speaker 9: length all. So we have all these rules that say,
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Speaker 9: if you're trading with yourself across international borders, you've got
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Speaker 9: to do it on an arms links basis. And that's
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Speaker 9: the result they're giving. And the question the report's raising
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Speaker 9: and saying is that the right result? And there are
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Speaker 9: more complexions to it. Even if we could tax them more,
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Speaker 9: there's a real issue about whether we should tax them more.
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Speaker 2: It's another report that points out the problem very very well,
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Speaker 2: but does it offer any answers and are there any answers?
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Speaker 9: Well, there are answers the report suggests withholding tax, but
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Speaker 9: there's two risks with that approach. The first is that
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Speaker 9: we have in power in the US the Trump administration,
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Speaker 9: who has proven one hundred percent that they will retaliate
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Speaker 9: with tariffs on our export good We already are being
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Speaker 9: hit with fifteen percent. But if we were to try
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Speaker 9: and tax the US digital giants more. It is highly
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Speaker 9: likely that we would get an increased tariff response. So
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Speaker 9: the question would be more taxes to New Zealand, but
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Speaker 9: higher tariffs on our exports. What's the right arm. That's
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Speaker 9: the first problem. The second problem is it's not clear
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Speaker 9: whilst you might collect the tax off the multinationals, they're
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Speaker 9: likely to pass it on to these human businesses and
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Speaker 9: eventually consumers. So the economic incidence who pays the tax,
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Speaker 9: who bears the cost, shifts through to the consumers, so
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Speaker 9: we don't actually get it off them anyway.
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Speaker 2: It's a fine pickle. And thank you so much for
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Speaker 2: your time. Jeff Nightingale, independent tax expert, News Talks ab
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Speaker 2: by the way. I want to talk about Amazon because
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Speaker 2: they're starting to get under my skin a little bit
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Speaker 2: over this week. I'll talk about that after the news.
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Speaker 2: It is now five twenty.
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Speaker 1: Four the early edition full the Show podcast on iHeartRadio
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Speaker 2: B five twenty six. Here comes the weekend. It's a Thursday,
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Speaker 2: and we've got a game of rugby this weekend. And
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Speaker 2: this game of rugby this weekend is really starting to
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Speaker 2: take on a life of its own. Some are calling
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Speaker 2: it the biggest game of rugby since the last World
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Speaker 2: Cup Final, featuring the same two teams, and this even
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Speaker 2: though the Lions just toured Australia in a called breaking
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Speaker 2: financial success. But no, this is a very big game.
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Speaker 2: The whole world is looking at this game and it
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Speaker 2: is going to be a cracker. And it's all been
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Speaker 2: hyped up and fortified by Eden Park's record as a
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Speaker 2: fortress thirty years and fifty games where the All Blacks
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Speaker 2: have not been defeated and we are vulnerable, as the
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Speaker 2: last test against Argentina showed. Meanwhile, the South Africans seemed
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Speaker 2: genuinely inspired by playing at Eden Park. Did you do
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Speaker 2: know It's been eight years since the South African's played
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Speaker 2: at Eden Park and the venue is venerated by them,
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Speaker 2: And I wonder if it's been purposeful to keep them
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Speaker 2: away from eden Park for so long, to not let
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Speaker 2: them step on the pitch because it fires them up.
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Speaker 2: And the French had been in the media yesterday they
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Speaker 2: were the last to beat New Zealand on the Garden
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Speaker 2: of Eden way back in nineteen ninety four. And here's
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Speaker 2: a fun fact. That was the very first time I
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Speaker 2: ever went to an all back game and we lost.
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Speaker 2: But what an amazing try, the try from the end
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Speaker 2: of the world, they said nineteen ninety four last time
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Speaker 2: we lost. And the French have been rhapsodizing about the
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Speaker 2: mythical qualities of eden Park two, which we all know
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Speaker 2: is a pretty patchy stadium. It's very good, it's good,
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Speaker 2: but you know it could be so much better. Now
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Speaker 2: there's a real chance, a very real chance, we're going
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Speaker 2: to lose this one. Graham Henry was quoted yesterday as
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Speaker 2: saying there's something not quite right with the team's mentality.
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Speaker 2: Yet it is a reminder that if the biggest game
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Speaker 2: of rugby in the world is to be played, it
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Speaker 2: had to be played at eden Park. And the good
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Speaker 2: people are christ Church, who are about to take possession
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Speaker 2: of a spiffing new stadium, will argue that eden Park's
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Speaker 2: self declaration that the park is our national stadium is misplaced.
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Speaker 2: But that's not true. Sorry, christ Church, You've got a
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Speaker 2: beautiful stadium. It's going to be awesome, but Eden Park
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Speaker 2: is sacred ground and Auckland possibly the nation, but certainly
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Speaker 2: Auckland still needs to figure out how to make Eden
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Speaker 2: Park better because we need a place like Eden Park.
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Speaker 2: We needed in Park because it's the best place for
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Speaker 2: what's about to happen this weekend. Dickens, five twenty nine.
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Speaker 2: Our reaction to the parade morning, Andrew. What the parade
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Speaker 2: in Beijing yesterday showed us is that order and structure
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Speaker 2: exists in China, while in the West we have chaos
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Speaker 2: and anything goes. Thank you, Clive, Larry loved it. He
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Speaker 2: reckon My intro was exceptional, particularly the chilling reference to
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Speaker 2: Tijanuman Square. Life is cheaper there than in the West.
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Speaker 2: We need to be constantly reminded of this. On you, Larry.
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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Larry. Have we got the news
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Speaker 2: In a few moments time, we're going to talk about
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Speaker 2: Christiach City Council requesting to opt out for more housing
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Speaker 2: intensification in about five minutes time. By the way, David
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Speaker 2: Seymour once changes to Chris Bishop's changes around the Auckland intensification,
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Speaker 2: and I can see where he's coming from. He says
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Speaker 2: there could be a lot of unintended consequences. The trick
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Speaker 2: will be to keep the houses that are precious and
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Speaker 2: to build up in the places where it's right to
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Speaker 2: build up. And whether Chris Bishop's plan has it? I
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Speaker 2: don't know, but David Seymour I believe it's talking to
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Speaker 2: Mike Hosking on this very issue later on in the program.
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Speaker 2: And I've got to get some something on my back
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Speaker 2: about Amazon and their big announcements this week. I'm Andrew
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Speaker 2: Dickinson for Ryan Bridge, who's on holiday on the Gold
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Speaker 2: Coast sleeping. I reckon. This is News Talk sat.
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Speaker 1: B News and Views you trust to start your day.
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Speaker 1: It's earlier this ship with Andrew Dickens and one Roote
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Speaker 2: B writing to you. Welcome to your Thursday. All right.
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Speaker 2: Muzz a man with whom I have a bit of
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Speaker 2: a love hate relationship and he has a love hate
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Speaker 2: relationship with me is texted me and said, Dickens, it
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Speaker 2: hasn't been a years since we last played the spring
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Speaker 2: Box at Eden Park. We played them a couple of
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Speaker 2: years ago. You need to check your facts, Dickens. Well,
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Speaker 2: I heard that yesterday on the Sky Sport program The
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Speaker 2: Greatest Rivalry. So they need to check their facts. So
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Speaker 2: guess what. Muzz I went back and checked the facts.
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Speaker 2: The last time the All Backs played South Africa at
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Speaker 2: Eden Park was on the fourteenth of September twenty thirteen.
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Speaker 2: So you're right, I got it wrong. It's not eight years,
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Speaker 2: it's twelve. It's twelve since the spring Box played at
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Speaker 2: Eden Park and that game we won twenty nine to fifteen.
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Speaker 2: That was the game where the hooker Bismuck Dupracy got
18:32
Speaker 2: sent off after two yellow cards. It was a very
18:34
Speaker 2: controversial game which we won twelve years muzz see, I
18:38
Speaker 2: do check the facts now, apropos of nothing at all.
18:41
Speaker 2: I may have drunk some pina nol last night and
18:45
Speaker 2: after my tongue got a little dusty and a little discolored,
18:49
Speaker 2: and I complained about it, and my partner went into
18:51
Speaker 2: the bathroom and brought out a tongue scraper. I didn't
18:54
Speaker 2: even know tongue scrapers existed. It's sister, you shape piece
18:57
Speaker 2: of some metal and you give the old tongue a
18:59
Speaker 2: bit of a scrap and I was astounded by how
19:02
Speaker 2: much gunk came out. It's disgusting. I'm this many years
19:06
Speaker 2: old and I've only just learned about a tongue scraper,
19:09
Speaker 2: and can I heartily recommend them now. I've also been
19:12
Speaker 2: festering this week about the big Amazon reveal that we
19:15
Speaker 2: now know revealed nothing at all, and credit where credits
19:18
Speaker 2: to Jonathan Milne from Newsroom did some old fashioned journalistic
19:21
Speaker 2: leg work and discovered that Amazon has not built a
19:24
Speaker 2: data center. They've stopped building a data center. They're halfway
19:28
Speaker 2: through a data center, but it's not being finished. What
19:30
Speaker 2: they've done is they rented some buildings, stuck a handful
19:32
Speaker 2: of people in them and some kit and that's about it.
19:34
Speaker 2: They're not employing thousands. In fact, the year thousands will
19:37
Speaker 2: be employed downstream, and there is no evidence that they're
19:42
Speaker 2: even going to As our power prices rocket skyward. It
19:46
Speaker 2: was suspicious, wasn't it that they were starting up this
19:49
Speaker 2: high energy enterprise at the very same time that New
19:51
Speaker 2: Zealand posessors have been closing due to the cost of energy.
19:55
Speaker 2: And here they also took to Amazon, and to be fair,
19:57
Speaker 2: I had to listened to it. G They were elusive
20:00
Speaker 2: and as Heather said, and I'm going to say it too,
20:02
Speaker 2: Amazon played us as fools, and worst of all, they
20:07
Speaker 2: co opted our prime minister to help them, Andrew Dickens
20:10
Speaker 2: around the country. We go Callum Proctor from the dead
20:12
Speaker 2: and good boarding Andrew. The public's being asked to get
20:17
Speaker 2: rid of some birds.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, they are pest birds and facts and this is
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Speaker 10: the rook that we're talking about. The Regional Council here,
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Speaker 10: along with Environments Southend, are working together to eradicate rooks
20:29
Speaker 10: across the South. In fact, Southland is rock free. There
20:33
Speaker 10: are still sightings though of rocks around Otago. Look, these
20:37
Speaker 10: birds are attracted to recently cultivated paddocks, which is why
20:39
Speaker 10: they're a problem. They feed on these newly sown crops
20:42
Speaker 10: and cause significant damage.
20:44
Speaker 2: The attager.
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Speaker 10: Regional Council says. Rooks also intelligent and very weary birds,
20:48
Speaker 10: so it's important people don't shoot at them, but report
20:52
Speaker 10: them please to the council. They have effective control options
20:56
Speaker 10: which can be taken at no cost to the landowner.
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Speaker 2: The only thing rock so good for horror movies. How's
21:02
Speaker 2: your weather, Well.
21:04
Speaker 10: It's a good day to be a rock fine today
21:05
Speaker 10: Northeries In eighteen.
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Speaker 2: Jamie Cunningham joins you from Christia Tello. Jamie, good morning,
21:10
Speaker 2: So more debate about housing intensification happening in your area.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, the christ Church City Council is requesting to opt
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Speaker 7: out from more identification. The councils agreed to seek approval
21:21
Speaker 7: from Minister Chris Bishop to withdraw the remaining parts of
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Speaker 7: Plan Change fourteen which relate to National Medium density residential standards.
21:30
Speaker 7: Now these rules would allow more homes to be built
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Speaker 7: in residential areas without resource consent. In a meeting yesterday,
21:36
Speaker 7: the Council did approve some of the Independent Hearing Panels
21:39
Speaker 7: recommendations so it could meet the housing capacity threshold to
21:43
Speaker 7: apply for withdrawal.
21:45
Speaker 5: Now.
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Speaker 7: Mayor Phil Major says the decision is about putting the
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Speaker 7: city on a better path for the future.
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Speaker 2: Right and David seymore of course challenging this as well
21:54
Speaker 2: in Auckland. So more debate on that with the Mike
21:57
Speaker 2: Hosking Breakfast show after six, Now, how's your weather fine?
22:00
Speaker 7: With areas of morning cloud or frost being high, cloud
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Speaker 7: building this afternoon and a high of eighteen.
22:05
Speaker 2: Maxtel joins us now from Wellington Morning to you, Max,
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Speaker 2: good morning. You're having a very fascinating merial debate. Its
22:11
Speaker 2: fear to say what's the latest?
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Speaker 11: I wouldn't say fascinating. This was at the University yesterday,
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Speaker 11: seven contenders quizzed by more than two hundred students asking
22:22
Speaker 11: some pretty frank liberal type questions. The only absence, Ray Chung,
22:25
Speaker 11: which was odd because he was scheduled to attend the
22:28
Speaker 11: event was actually moderated by someone in our newsroom as well,
22:32
Speaker 11: so we had quite good coverage of it. What we
22:35
Speaker 11: have I think this year is some quite middle of
22:37
Speaker 11: the road candidates. A new Curio poll has found Labor
22:40
Speaker 11: leader former Labor leader Andrew Little seems to be just
22:43
Speaker 11: running away with it. You've got Ray Chung, Diane Calvert
22:47
Speaker 11: a few steps behind current councilors. Last night they were
22:50
Speaker 11: all pretty aligned on some issues, stalling the Golden Mile
22:53
Speaker 11: pedestrianization plan for instance, slowing that down. I think this
22:57
Speaker 11: is going to be a far more business friendly mayre
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Speaker 11: than what we've got. Regardless of who wins, everyone seemed
23:02
Speaker 11: to be singing from the same hemsheet last yesterday afternoon.
23:06
Speaker 11: Safety in the CBD is a big issue right now,
23:08
Speaker 11: a lot of homeless mental health issues. More does need
23:10
Speaker 11: to be done. Everyone agrees on that. But beyond the
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Speaker 11: Golden Mile, which you know doesn't have a bright future,
23:16
Speaker 11: no real firm solutions as yet. Slow down rates rises,
23:19
Speaker 11: of course, but how are you going to do that?
23:21
Speaker 11: Foster better relationships at the council. A lot of the
23:23
Speaker 11: same typical stuff yesterday. And how's your weather, parley cloudy,
23:28
Speaker 11: some showers later, stronger wind getting up to fourteenth central.
23:31
Speaker 2: Any of the written mane who joins me from orkhand
23:32
Speaker 2: coome on? Is you morning? So we've got an election
23:35
Speaker 2: in the Orkland area tomorrow, but a lot of people
23:37
Speaker 2: don't seem to realize.
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Speaker 12: That that's right, Andrews. So what's happening is that the
23:41
Speaker 12: Electoral Commission is saying, come on, voters, get out the
23:43
Speaker 12: head you say, just days to go before voting closes.
23:47
Speaker 12: Obviously this is the Tamiki rather Makodo by election. Votings
23:51
Speaker 12: open until seven pm Saturday. So as of Tuesday, three thousand,
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Speaker 12: six hundred and eighty one ordinary votes they've been cast.
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Speaker 12: There's not including the special votes, all the overseas votes,
24:02
Speaker 12: but just for comparison, more than twenty five thousand votes
24:05
Speaker 12: were cast in twenty twenty three, so at this stage
24:08
Speaker 12: it's down. So we've got more than thirty voting places
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Speaker 12: open today tomorrow and eighty four sites open on Saturday.
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Speaker 2: Use it or lose it, get out and vote. And
24:15
Speaker 2: what I found is concerning is that people are saying
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Speaker 2: that people didn't know the election was on. They know that.
24:21
Speaker 2: They think it's all about the commy year, that's right,
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Speaker 2: and not about about the Tomakimikodo seats.
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Speaker 12: So you know, have your say, Yeah, get out there.
24:28
Speaker 2: What's the weather like?
24:28
Speaker 12: Find it first partly cloudy towards midday seventeen the high
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Speaker 12: here in Auckland.
24:32
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Neva. Now, with all the talking
24:34
Speaker 2: up of our property market and the government's fervent desire
24:37
Speaker 2: to see it start to boom again to help our economy,
24:39
Speaker 2: I've got some sobering news for you. Property values in
24:42
Speaker 2: New Zealand edge down again in August, just zero point
24:46
Speaker 2: two percent. But that's the fifth month in a row
24:49
Speaker 2: to fall, and so far this year we're down by
24:51
Speaker 2: point six percent. The median price is eight hundred and
24:54
Speaker 2: nine grand. That is down seventeen point two percent on
24:58
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. There is one bright spot. There is
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Speaker 2: strength and first home buyers and text through saying surely, Andrew,
25:05
Speaker 2: you clean your tongue every time you clean your teeth.
25:07
Speaker 2: Thought that was automatic. I thought so too. I brushed
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Speaker 2: my teeth, but my god, tongue scraper is next level.
25:15
Speaker 2: We're off to America Next, Trump's reaction to the Chinese
25:19
Speaker 2: military parade, which was chilling. We were joined by Mitch
25:23
Speaker 2: McCann next on Newstalk's here b It's sixteen to.
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Speaker 1: Six international correspondence with ends and eye Insurance, Peace of
25:30
Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business.
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Speaker 2: It is thirteen to six off to the United States.
25:35
Speaker 2: We go with Mitch McCann, Helen, Mitch, Hi, Andrew, how
25:37
Speaker 2: are you. I'm great. We had this Chinese military parade
25:40
Speaker 2: which was not a celebration of what happened eighty years ago,
25:43
Speaker 2: but it was absolutely a showing off of China's military power.
25:48
Speaker 2: So how has America reacted?
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Speaker 13: Yeah, Donald Trump, Well, this hasn't gone unnoticed for Donald Trump,
25:54
Speaker 13: of course. Standing beside Hijinping, the leader of China was
25:58
Speaker 13: the leader of Russia Ledimir Po, and of North Korea
26:01
Speaker 13: Kim Jong un, which really looked like some sort of
26:04
Speaker 13: coordinated sort of viewing party. On purpose, perhaps a message
26:08
Speaker 13: to Western leaders. Donald Trump wrote on truth Social as
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Speaker 13: this was happening, may President g and the wonderful people
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Speaker 13: of China have a great and lasting day of celebration.
26:18
Speaker 13: But he also added, please give my warmest regards to
26:20
Speaker 13: Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong Un, as you conspire against
26:24
Speaker 13: the United States of America. Now, Donald Trump posted that.
26:29
Speaker 13: Vladimir Putin has responded by saying that it shows Donald
26:32
Speaker 13: Trump has a sense of humor, so he looks to
26:35
Speaker 13: not be taking that too seriously. And in terms of
26:38
Speaker 13: what's happening with Russia and Ukraine, Donald Trump has had
26:40
Speaker 13: a press conference in the White House in the last
26:42
Speaker 13: couple of hours, and he sees he's going to be
26:44
Speaker 13: speaking to Zelenski in the coming days about a path forward.
26:48
Speaker 13: And he also said we'll find out over the next
26:50
Speaker 13: week or two how good our relationship is with Russia.
26:53
Speaker 13: He didn't go into what that exactly meant, but perhaps
26:56
Speaker 13: more sanctions or something more serious coming from Russia.
26:59
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, the United States had done a military strike on
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Speaker 2: a vessel near Venezuela.
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Speaker 13: So what was that about. It was deadly too, someone died, Yeah,
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Speaker 13: eleven people died, according to the White House. This is
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Speaker 13: one of the stories over the last couple of weeks.
27:11
Speaker 13: I think that hasn't got to the top of their
27:13
Speaker 13: headlines because there's so much going on. The US has
27:16
Speaker 13: put a number of military ships outside of Venezuelan waters.
27:20
Speaker 13: Though really after Nicholas Maduro, they put a multimillion dollar
27:23
Speaker 13: bounty on his head. He's the leader of Venezuela. But
27:26
Speaker 13: in the last couple of days they noticed a boat
27:28
Speaker 13: coming out of Venezuela headed towards the Caribbean, which the
27:31
Speaker 13: White House said was full of narcotics. So what did
27:34
Speaker 13: they do. They launched a military strike and blew it up,
27:37
Speaker 13: and they say they got rid of the drugs and
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Speaker 13: they killed eleven people on board. The Defense Secretary Pitt
27:42
Speaker 13: Higseeth was doing an interview this morning on Fox News
27:45
Speaker 13: and he said it won't stop there with this strike.
27:47
Speaker 13: Anyone else trafficking drugs in the waters near the United
27:50
Speaker 13: States will face the similar fate. So the UIs taking
27:53
Speaker 13: this narcotics situation extremely seriously.
27:56
Speaker 2: I thank you, Mitched. Yes, that is really getting tough
27:58
Speaker 2: on crime, isn't it? Eleven to six? And speaking of which,
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Speaker 2: dickens more issues with our courts. Our report from the
28:07
Speaker 2: Chief Justice Helenn Kelman says trials are becoming longer, more complex,
28:12
Speaker 2: and it's clocking up the system. There's some incredible figures
28:14
Speaker 2: in there, like manslaughter of murder, makeups over seventy percent
28:18
Speaker 2: of all our trials. The average trial now takes seventeen days.
28:22
Speaker 2: Sir Ron Young is the former High Court judge and
28:25
Speaker 2: former chair of the New Zealand Parole Board and joins
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Speaker 2: me this morning. Good morning to you, sir, Good morning Andrew.
28:30
Speaker 2: So this is a creaking system, isn't it.
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Speaker 14: Well, it's certainly under stress and you can see that
28:36
Speaker 14: by the huge increase in how long trials are taking,
28:39
Speaker 14: particularly in the High Court.
28:41
Speaker 2: So what does that mean for our entire justice system.
28:44
Speaker 2: It's all we will and good to get tough on crime,
28:46
Speaker 2: but there's no point getting tough on crime if we
28:48
Speaker 2: can't process them.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, no, I mean that's true, of course. I mean
28:53
Speaker 14: being tough on crime is important. But the important thing,
28:56
Speaker 14: of course is to try and focus on reoffending and
29:00
Speaker 14: try and reduce the crime rate and reduce the number
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Speaker 14: of victims. So simply putting in people in prison longer
29:06
Speaker 14: and longer, more and more often, actually isn't solving the
29:09
Speaker 14: crime problem. It's making it worse.
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Speaker 2: The UK is facing a similar issue, and there they've
29:14
Speaker 2: actually suggested shorter sentences. Is that a good idea or not?
29:18
Speaker 14: Yes, I think it's a good idea because it's combined
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Speaker 14: with rehabilitation in the community, and we know that's the
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Speaker 14: most successful thing, and we know that that's the way
29:26
Speaker 14: to reduce the number of victims.
29:29
Speaker 2: Some of those stay short sentences lead to greater acidivism.
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Speaker 14: Well they don't. The evidence is quite the contrary. The
29:37
Speaker 14: longer you put people in prison, particularly at the beginning
29:40
Speaker 14: of their life, the more likely it is they're going
29:43
Speaker 14: to be joining gangs for their protection. In prison, the
29:46
Speaker 14: more likely they're going to get information about how to
29:49
Speaker 14: commit further crimes. So it definitely makes it worse.
29:52
Speaker 2: So surely sending criminals out into the streets is increasing
29:54
Speaker 2: crime as well when they haven't been rehabilitated in the
29:58
Speaker 2: prison system.
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Speaker 14: Sure that's the point that they're not proposing in the
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Speaker 14: UK of seend people just into the community and today
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Speaker 14: good luck. You know, here's your two hundred and seventy
30:08
Speaker 14: five or three hundred and seventy five dollars. What they're
30:10
Speaker 14: doing is focusing on rehabilitation so that they are controlled,
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Speaker 14: they're under very strict situations within the community, but also
30:20
Speaker 14: getting rehabilitation because in the end, that's the most important
30:24
Speaker 14: thing for the community.
30:25
Speaker 2: Should I be shot or should we all be shot
30:27
Speaker 2: that murder attemptive murder at mansort, a category four offenses,
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Speaker 2: now make up seventy six percent of all new cases
30:34
Speaker 2: in the High Court back in twenty twenty. Back in
30:37
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, it was fifty six percent.
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Speaker 14: YEP. It is a horrifying statistic and it's also in
30:44
Speaker 14: terms of the stress on courts. It's horrifying that it's
30:46
Speaker 14: taking seventeen plus days on average. I can recall when
30:50
Speaker 14: I was a young lawyer back in the nineteen seventies
30:53
Speaker 14: and eighties, murder trials often took three, four five days. Ye.
30:57
Speaker 2: So what's the answer? More money, more more? Is horses
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Speaker 2: are one?
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Speaker 14: Well, the only way it's all it's more resources. But
31:04
Speaker 14: it's not just judges and lawyers, although that's part of it.
31:07
Speaker 14: It's also court rooms. It's a sophisticated equipment that's required.
31:12
Speaker 14: There's a whole series of things that are required to
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Speaker 14: help a court system run I think effectively and efficiently.
31:19
Speaker 2: So Ron young, I thank you so much for your time.
31:21
Speaker 2: And all that stuff costs money. And this is a
31:23
Speaker 2: government that doesn't like to spend money, and do we
31:25
Speaker 2: even have the money to spend? It is seven minutes
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Speaker 2: to six.
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Speaker 1: The News you Need this morning and the in depth
31:34
Speaker 1: Analysis Early edition with Andrew Dicketts and One Root Love,
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Speaker 8: That'd be Yes.
31:41
Speaker 2: It is now five minutes to six, and a man
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Speaker 2: with a whole lot of paper and a whole lot
31:44
Speaker 2: of facts and figures has come down towards Are you
31:46
Speaker 2: not like the sort of bloke I would use a
31:47
Speaker 2: tongue scraper? Yeah, I do, and have done for many years.
31:50
Speaker 2: I used one for the very first time yesterday. It
31:53
Speaker 2: was mind blowing.
31:53
Speaker 15: How did you get onto it?
31:55
Speaker 8: Well?
31:56
Speaker 2: I drank wine, didn't I?
31:57
Speaker 15: No, no, no, But how literally do you?
31:59
Speaker 2: My partner had had one, said she had it for
32:02
Speaker 2: years apparently, but I ever knew.
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Speaker 8: Is it copper?
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Speaker 15: No, it must be has to be copper. So it
32:07
Speaker 15: comes why I evaded. So the tongue scraper is originally
32:11
Speaker 15: an io aadic practice. Out of there you always go
32:13
Speaker 15: to the old cultures. The Chinese and the Indians have
32:16
Speaker 15: it right.
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Speaker 2: There's a bit of hippie in you. The way it
32:18
Speaker 2: was mind blog and I couldn't believe how much gun
32:20
Speaker 2: came out. And now I'm doing it in the morning.
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Speaker 15: Do it in the morning, I'll tell you if you
32:23
Speaker 15: really want to hear something disgusting, The Indians do it
32:26
Speaker 15: in the morning. So you wake up and your tongue
32:29
Speaker 15: basically just extrude stuff in the night. Yes, and you
32:32
Speaker 15: do it in the morning when you've had nothing to
32:34
Speaker 15: eat or drink, you will be astonished. And tongue health
32:38
Speaker 15: as gut health, and gut health as everything.
32:40
Speaker 2: There we go, there we go. All right, what are
32:41
Speaker 2: you excited to talk about today?
32:43
Speaker 15: Well, I'm excited on that. That's the garage project thing
32:47
Speaker 15: interests me.
32:48
Speaker 2: So they're going they're going into that well Fa, which
32:52
Speaker 2: is a great bar. I have no idea why it
32:53
Speaker 2: went bust ah because it's a great location.
32:56
Speaker 15: So and that's the key. So I just wonder how
32:58
Speaker 15: much of we've obsessed ourselves about hospitality in this country.
33:01
Speaker 15: How much of it you know, not to put two
33:02
Speaker 15: fine a point in it. Maybe fortune favors. Aren't they
33:04
Speaker 15: good at business?
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Speaker 8: You know?
33:06
Speaker 15: Why can garage Project take over something that can't work
33:09
Speaker 15: and presumably make it work. How come they can do that?
33:11
Speaker 15: How come Smith's City, for example, can't sell enough sofas,
33:14
Speaker 15: whereas other people who sell sofers can sell sovers. You know,
33:17
Speaker 15: Is it about business, is it about luck? Is it
33:19
Speaker 15: about your debt?
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Speaker 8: What is it?
33:20
Speaker 15: So anyway, we'll talk to them. David Seamwall this morning,
33:22
Speaker 15: without boring the rest of the country, there's a stoush
33:25
Speaker 15: brewing in Auckland over the intensification.
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Speaker 2: Same thing's happening in chrast Yat, of course.
33:29
Speaker 15: But David seam was interesting because he used the Deputy
33:32
Speaker 15: pime Minister and Leader of Act but a local MP
33:34
Speaker 15: and doesn't like what the government are doing. So watch
33:38
Speaker 15: this space.
33:39
Speaker 2: Not a lot of high raises an absence, no exactly,
33:41
Speaker 2: I've noticed. Thank you, Mike is next, have a great show.
33:44
Speaker 2: My thanks to producer Kenzie. I'm Andrew Dickens and I'll
33:47
Speaker 2: see you tomorrow.
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