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Joba and the Mouth 7-7-25 · NY's Sports Loud Mouth (VIDEO)

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  If it is the worldwide sports radio network.
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  Major League Baseball announced its All Star pitchers and
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  reserves and set a new record with 19 first time All Stars.
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  These new faces mean some familiar favorites like Mookie
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  Betson. Mets $765 million man Juan Soto
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  did not make the cut. Aaron Boone defiantly told the
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  media that the Yankees were the best team in the league after
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  getting swept by now first place to and then proceeded to only
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  win Sunday's matinee in the three-game Subway Series in Citi
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  Field over the weekend. Do the Yankees regret giving
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  Boone the extension or is it just a tough stretch in a long
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  season for the best in the business?
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  And before we open a six pack with Speedy and catch up on the
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  NBA and NHL off seasons, we will talk about the Nationals doing a
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  hard reset after firing their GM and manager on another brand new
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  live Monday, the edition of Jabba and the Mouth Believe.
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  In that you're going to give him a significant they're going to
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  have a ton of money to spend. Why not putting in one of the
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  top three offensive players in the league?
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  We're going to be. Looking at Aaron Judge and
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  saying that he can't win the big game.
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  Michael Jordan. Said I.
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  Played 82 games. You don't see LeBron doing that.
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  A. Game where you got to go?
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  For. Four, I told you Giant fans,
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  Saquon Barkley at. This
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  Let's do it. You're listening to Jabba and
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  the Mouth Mouth 631. 672-3108 is the number to call.
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  You're listening to Jabba and the mouth.
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  I'm your host. Darrell Marks, my Co host,
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  Speedy PE and Jabba Chamberlain. Go to our website at
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  for all our shows is go to our website at
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  www.worldwidesportsradio.com. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, we
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  have a new show. I'm waiting for the guys to come
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  into the frame. I'm wondering where everybody
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  is. Go to our website now.
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  There it is. Finally everybody appears on the
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  the board over here. I don't know what's going on.
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  We have a new system in the studios.
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  I put up a new computer for Speedy because Speedy's cameras
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  always too slow or whatever's going on with his camera.
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  So hopefully it's a little bit better tonight.
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  I, I know there's a lot of people that told me that
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  Speedy's camera remember is not clear enough.
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  So I wanted to see if this would work.
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  Hopefully it does moving forward.
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  If not, we'll figure out something else when we go to a
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  break. Remember, ladies and gentlemen,
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  throughout the weeks, over the last couple of weeks, we're
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  we're kind of moving our show from Mondays and Thursdays to
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  Mondays and Wednesdays. We're moving probably in a week
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  from now. So I just want to let the fans
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  know that after this week, we're no longer going to be on
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  Thursdays. We're going to be on Mondays and
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  Wednesdays really because of the football season.
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  The football season is right around the corner and OTAs and
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  then where there's just more going on on Thursdays for
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  sports. So we want to stay away from
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  that and make sure that we're doing our show on a time where
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  people are going to be watching it.
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  So Jabba, how was your weekend? By the way?
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  Happy 4th of July 0. It was good.
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  The weather held off, so that was that was nice.
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  It was warm, but All in all it was nice.
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  Played a little golf and blew some things up and hung out and
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  ate some good food. And yeah, it was, it was all
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  around. It was it was really good.
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  Carter has all of his fingers and everything left too, so you
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  can always count that as a win. I want to wish one person a very
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  happy birthday. And he's a fan of the show.
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  He's been a part of our network and really he's been watching
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  every bit of our shows over the last couple of years.
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  And that's Jamie Lee and he has been a fan of the show.
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  He loves our show. So happy.
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  I don't know what is he, 4243 Jamie Lee, happy 42nd or 43rd
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  birthday. We really appreciate your
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  support over the years. We love you.
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  You're a good personality off air, love meeting and hanging
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  out with you as you've come to our show live when we were at
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  Miller S Ale House and we loved 40 and 42.
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  So he's 42 years old and and going and ticking, ladies and
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  gentlemen, as the Lee baby is still around.
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  So thank you to Jamie Lee and all the time and and precious
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  love that he gives to our show and, and obviously his
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  personality off air. He loves our show and we really,
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  we give him a shout out all the time.
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  But thank you for really supporting what we do here on
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  job in the mouth. So thank you very much.
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  But I, I just want to say something.
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  I, I was working all week and all weekend for, for 4th of
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  July. Everybody tells me, well, did
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  you celebrate 4th of July? It's your favorite holiday?
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  I actually was not supposed to work 4th of July.
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  I was asked at the last minute to DJ a party and it was a crazy
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  one. This guy had some fire fireworks
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  show. It really was amazing and a lot
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  of people came up to me. One kid actually came up to that
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  kid actually knew who I was and he told me he watches our show
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  Speedy. He actually, he listens to our
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  show on the weekend Crunch on Saturday.
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  And his father and his brother listens to our show throughout
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  the our podcast. Well on Spotify and Apple.
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  He actually knew who I was and actually was a big fan, actually
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  took a picture of him. So Mark and his son John and
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  Jimmy who were at the party, I'd like to give a shout out to them
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  for supporting what we do on our show.
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  So I, I didn't even know that he knew who I was until he came up
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  to me and say you're you're the guy.
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  You're the guy. So we really appreciate
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  everything over the last couple of months, all the support of
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  some of the Long Islanders that listen to our show.
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  And if you don't listen to our show, shame on you, all you
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  Islanders. And I'm not saying Islander
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  fans, all you Islanders should be taking a look at least a look
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  at our show or just listening to us.
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  If you miss any of the live footage that we have on YouTube
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  or all the different profile, you know, networks that we're
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  on, you should be listening to us.
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  And I want to give a shout out to Blue Eye.
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  We're on Blue Wire, so all the fans out there that listen to us
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  on Blue Wire, we like to thank Blue Eye for adding us to their
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  network of 200 shows. They just had a Chris Long show,
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  They've got Dwight Howard that got Cam Newton, they've got all
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  the big shows, and now they have Jabba on them out.
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  So we would like to thank, I'm sorry, Blue Wire, I almost said
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  thank you to Cam Newton, but Cam Newton is a part of the network.
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  But I'd like to thank Blue Wire for really supporting what we do
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  here at Jabba the Mouse. So it's going to be a crazy show
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  a little bit later in the show. And I know a lot of people are
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  waiting to hear what we're going to do and, and what kind of
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  guest we're going to have on the show.
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  And it's so crazy because the New York Knicks have been a part
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  of the conversation over the last couple of weeks.
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  And I I will say this and I'm I'm bringing in got it speedy.
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  I I got the framework over here at a little bit later show.
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  We will be talking to the New York Knicks.
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  NBATV contributor writer, broadcaster Ben Lyons will be
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  joining us. We'll talk a little Nick
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  basketball with him. I'm sure he has his thoughts to
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  Mike Brown being hired and some of the Knicks acquisitions that
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  they've made so far and Clarkson and and some of the pieces that
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  they had to that bench that desperately needed some addition
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  to. So I'll be interested to see
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  what Lyons is going to say about what he thinks the Knicks have
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  done so far and where he thinks the Knicks could go now that the
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  East is so wide open with all the injuries that they've had,
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  obviously with Tatum and that Hal Burton and now Dame Lillard,
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  now there is a story coming out. The two lead teams to get to
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  land Dame Lillard is the Miami Heat in the New York Knicks.
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  So that's an interesting story. Could the Knicks land Dame, Dame
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  Lillard Dame time? He probably doesn't play this
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  year. He's a backup.
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  He'll probably back up behind Clarkson this year.
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  Maybe during the playoffs he shows back up because that that
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  was a brutal injury he had during the playoffs.
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  So if Dame time decides to go to the Knicks, what an addition
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  that would be. But more than likely he heads to
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  Miami. We'll get into that and whenever
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  that happens, but I expect to hear about that in the next, I
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  would say next few weeks. I, I expect to hear a little bit
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  about where Dame is going to be going.
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  So interesting story. So I, I, let's get into the
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  stories right now. The big story right now is the,
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  the All Star game. The American League and National
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  League All Star rosters were released yesterday for next
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  Tuesday's MLB All Star game in Atlanta.
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  The Dodgers had the most total players with five with Shay
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  Ohtani, Freddie Freeman and Will Smith as starters.
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  Clay Kershaw because Clayton Kershaw because this could be
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  his last year as a Major League player making his first ever
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  legend selection so he will be heading to his pond a possibly
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  final All Star game. The Mariners had four total
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  players including Julio Rodriguez who had fans, I'm
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  sorry, who many fans did not believe deserve to make it
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  having just A247 average, eleven home runs in 43 RBS.
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  The Tigers who currently have the best record in baseball also
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  had four players with Glaber Torres a big mistake for the New
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  York Yankees, Javier Baez, Riley Green being named starters and
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  screwball obviously Screwball will probably be the the starter
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  for the American League. The Yankees had three All Stars,
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  Aaron Judge obviously Jazz, Chisholm AZAK, Jazz Jism and Max
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  Freed. I was very surprised, but Jazzy
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  has been very hot for the Yankees.
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  He's the only one besides Aaron Judge hitting the ball.
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  So it's been shameful watching the New York Yankees, but we'll
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  get into that a little bit later.
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  The Mets had three All Stars, Francisco Lindor being named an
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  All Star, Edwin Diaz who's had a good season, and Pete Alonso
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  making making it to the reserves despite many fans thinking Pete
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  got robbed of being a starter over Freeman.
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  Juan Soto was one of many notable All Stars.
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  All Star game snubs with a lot lots of fans thinking that he
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  deserved to be picked over Fernando Tatis.
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  Well, I I mean it's AI believe the All Star game is a fan
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  voting, you know, type of All Star game the same thing.
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  And we could go on and on about who should have been named and
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  who shouldn't have been named. The facts here is who's been hot
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  over the last couple of weeks and and that's that's the way
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  the fans are going to vote. Do I believe Jazz Chisholm is an
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  All Star? No.
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  Now, has he had a good season since he's come back from his
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  injury? He's been pretty good.
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  I mean, he's been one of the oddest hitters in baseball in
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  the American League, especially in the infield.
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  He's been hit. What is he since he's been back?
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  I think he's hitting over 330. He's been unbelievable.
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  So this is something that we want to see from Jazz since he's
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  come to the Yankees and really when he was traded at the trade
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  deadline last year. A lot of questions.
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  Is he going to handle New York? How is he going to handle New
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  York? Well, he's handled it pretty
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  well since he's come back from an injury.
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  Now, can he do it in the playoffs?
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  Could he do it when the Yankees need him the most?
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  That is the question. But I'm not going to take shots
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  at Jazz for what he's done over the last couple weeks.
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  He's been very hot. So usually when you're a hot
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  hitter, the fans are going to love you.
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  And, and Jazz has been out in the open with his personal life.
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  He comes out there, he speaks to the press, he's all over podcast
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  and he loves to wear his thick, beautiful chain that he wears on
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  the baseball field during game, you know, before and after
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  games. So I I love his personality
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  somewhat. I just don't like how he likes
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  to throw his team under the bus when the team is not playing
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  well. And he loves to praise the team
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  when they're playing well. So I want to see more of his
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  game develop as a Yankee. But as we all know over the over
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  the next couple of weeks and really the next couple of
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  months, we'll know what Jazz Chisholm is.
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  And that's really what he does in the playoffs.
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  The Yankees are going to be a playoff team.
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  I know the Yankees are not hot. They're not playing very good
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  baseball. We saw him this weekend against
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  the Mets. We saw him against the Blue Jays
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  getting their butts whipped by the Blue Jays.
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  So they have not been good. The only person, the only two
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  players that have actually been hitting is Jazz Chisholm and the
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  one and only Aaron Judge. That's it.
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  And that's the problem right now with the New York Yankees.
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  So I, I do believe Max Freed has been probably the third best
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  American League pitcher in, you know, over the last couple of
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  weeks. He's the the last couple of
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  starts have been, if he hasn't been as hot as he was when he
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  was up, he was 7 and O in the beginning of the season.
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  He's kind of taking a back seat from screwball and, and, and
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  what screwballs done is just been so impressive.
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  I mean, the guy throws ultra hard.
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  He throws over 103. I think he had 104 one time this
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  year. So the guy throws really and he
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  threw that, by the way, in the 9th inning.
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  OK, just think about this. This guy pitched a full game and
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  at the final batter, the final hitter, the.
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  Final. It was his.
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  It was his last pitch, yeah. His final strike, he threw 103
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  mph. It it it's it's very, very
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  impressive when you see a pitcher throw over what, 80
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  something pitches, almost 90 pitches and then strike out the
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  side and do it with 103 mile per hour fastball.
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  So I I expect Scruble to be the starter for the American League.
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  But again, you just don't know. You don't know how the vote.
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  I don't know how it works. Does do the do the players vote
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  that or do do their fans vote that?
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  Managers vote the pitchers, they fan votes for the hitters.
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  So so the managers. The start, the starter basically
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  depends on where they fall in the rotation really.
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  I got it. True.
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  I got it. Yeah, because if they have a
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  start that's Saturday or Sunday, they're not going to start a
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  Tuesday All Star game. I expect Scribble to pitch no
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  matter what, even if it's one inning, 2 innings.
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  I expect he's been the best pitcher in baseball.
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  I don't think you can argue that he's been the best pitcher in
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  baseball for the last two years. I mean, Detroit, I remember at
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  the, and I, if I'm not mistaken, at the trade deadline last year,
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  there were conversations that should the Detroit Tigers
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  actually trade scruple and, and actually add pieces to the
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  roster, a young roster that has tremendous amount of talent and,
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  and a great of a great farm system.
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  But I, I guess obviously Detroit saw their team saw the
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  opportunities that they were going to have in the offseason
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  and the money that they spent. They went after Glaber Torres
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  and boy, oh boy, what a slam dunk Glaber Torres has been for
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  the Detroit Tigers. By the way, if you look at their
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  infield, it's it's pretty impressive when you think about
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  the Detroit Tigers, the two best infielders right now, especially
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  in the middle of the infield in the American League is Javier
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  Baez and Glaber Torres when it comes to the bats.
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  So just think about that when you think about Detroit.
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  And nobody would have thought Detroit was going to be as good
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  as they have been so far this season.
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  They're the best team in baseball.
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  They have the best record in baseball and it's impressive.
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  They're in a division, obviously that is not very well, you know,
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  well groomed as far as talent is concerned.
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  Kansas City obviously last year was a playoff team.
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  Cleveland's always a playoff team.
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  But they're in a division in the Central that's not very good.
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  OK, But you look at the American League East, it's always, you
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  know, it's always a run from the top to the bottom.
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  You, you and everybody thought Baltimore was going to be great
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  this year. Their pitching's falling off.
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  They're not as good as everybody thought they were going to be
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  this year. I didn't think they were going
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  to be good because their pitching staff was not built to
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  win. And and then the lineup has been
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  hot and cold all season long. So that what's surprising right
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  now are some of the players that didn't make the the All Star
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  game and, and the snubs. And I, I know Speedy put up the
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  snubs for me to look at and I will get into the National
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  League in the American League. I know everybody's going to sit
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  here and say, well, what about this and what about that?
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  There are a couple of stubs that really stuck out to me.
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  And the one guy that a lot of fans are wondering why he didn't
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  make the playoff, he didn't make the All Star team.
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  That's Juan Soto, Fernando Tortis.
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  He's been up and down all season long.
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  Remember, Tortis is a guy that used steroids and a lot of
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  people don't like him. But Titis has been a really,
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  really good outfielder since he's moved.
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  He's been moved from shortstop to the outfield and he's a good
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  bat. Now, is he hitting better than
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  Juan Soto? No Juan Soto has been
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  unbelievable in the last three weeks.
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  He's been the hottest hitter for the New York Mets.
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  What I don't like about Juan Soto all season long is he
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  doesn't play. He didn't play in the beginning
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  of the season as hard as he's played over the last three
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  weeks, and I think that cost him a snub.
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  Now, that doesn't mean he doesn't make the playoffs.
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  He doesn't make the All Star the All Star team because how many
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  weeks are left before the All Star game?
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  It's next week. All right.
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  So there could be injuries. There could be guys that are
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  going to back out at the last minute.
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  If anybody backs out, Juan Soda is going to be moved into that
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  lineup. He's going to be moved as as
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  probably a bench player or a guy, a reserve player.
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  So I expect Juan Soda one way or another to make the team.
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  I know everybody thinks Freddie Freeman shouldn't have it,
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  shouldn't be the starter. He made the team and he's the
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  starter. A lot of people think Pete
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  Alonso deserves to be the starter of the National League.
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  And Pete Alonzo has been unbelievable.
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  You saw what he did against the Yankees over the weekend.
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  He beat the hell out of the Yankees, smashed the ball all
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  over the field in in City Field. The thing is, Freddie Freeman
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  won a championship last year. Freddie Freeman has been the
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  best first baseman in baseball for the last 10 years and fans
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  have a love fest for him. Those Dodger players, there's a
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  lot of love with those. Shay Ohtani is he?
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  Say whatever you want. He's been, I'll give him a lot
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  of credit since he's gotten on the mound, since he's gotten a
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  chance to throw the ball. He's throwing the ball pretty
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  hard. His pitching is starting.
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  He's starting to find the strike zone.
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  He's starting to look like the old Shay Ohtani when before he
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  he toreys UCL. Now, I don't know know if Shay
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  Ohtani will ever be the same as a pitcher.
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  We all know what he can do with his bat.
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  He's been sensational really the last, I would say last month,
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  month and a half, he's been the hottest hitter in baseball.
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  I I mean, if you look at his numbers, there's they're
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  unbelievable. He's stealing, he's stealing
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  bases again. And you expect Shay Otani to
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  just get better and better as the season progresses because I
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  believe the Dodgers are going to get healthier.
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  Their pitching's going to get healthier.
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  And that's really been the story right now in the National League
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  is it's not the fact that. The Dodgers aren't the best team
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  in the National League. The fact is, the Dodgers have
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  been the unhealthiest team in the National League.
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  Speedy. Yeah, no, they've had already
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  Java. You said it last week, 16
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  different guys start a game for them.
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  This year they've had 14 total guys on the injured list at once
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  cycling out throughout the season and that's what makes it
• 20:20
  impressive with the development system they've put together with
• 20:23
  their pitchers. Obviously we joked about it a
• 20:25
  few weeks ago with how much Dave Roberts has pitched position
• 20:27
  players. So they're trying to preserve
• 20:29
  them as much as possible, but they're they're making it work.
• 20:31
  Now. They got swept by the Astros
• 20:32
  over the weekend, but the Houston Astros have also been
• 20:35
  very hot to the last month of the season.
• 20:36
  They're the best record in the American League.
• 20:38
  So not not anything to write home about.
• 20:40
  But yeah, the Dodgers starters are still definitely very
• 20:42
  strong. I, I think the argument is Pete
• 20:44
  Alonzo with double the amount of home runs versus Freddie Freeman
• 20:47
  is the argument that people were making.
• 20:48
  But yeah, Freddie Freeman is still the better player all
• 20:50
  around. So it's not it's not like you
• 20:52
  can't really go wrong with that kind of thing.
• 20:53
  And again, he's still very deserving.
• 20:55
  And the Dodgers are going to bring that national prowess as
• 20:58
  well to to Atlanta. Obviously, Freddie being in
• 21:01
  Atlanta too, where he played most of his career up until the
• 21:04
  last four years. So I guess maybe that had
• 21:06
  something to do with it too. Maybe even the Braves fans are
• 21:08
  also probably voting for him to try to get that void because
• 21:10
  Matt Olson, I mean, he's had a good, good year, but not like
• 21:14
  the All Star caliber year. I think he made it as a reserve,
• 21:16
  but he wasn't going to be a starter.
• 21:18
  So I'm sure there was a push for that too.
• 21:19
  And that's where the fan vote versus the manager vote like we
• 21:21
  were talking about comes into effect.
• 21:23
  But Freddie Freeman's had a great year.
• 21:24
  Pete Alonzas had a great year. Just glad, glad they both made
• 21:27
  it. As far as Soto, he definitely
• 21:28
  has better overall hitting numbers than Tatis does.
• 21:31
  So maybe there was a case for that to get in.
• 21:33
  But yeah, he wasn't going to be a starter for all the Mets fans
• 21:35
  are thinking, OK, he's been hot, so he's going to be a starter.
• 21:37
  No, the Cubs guys, T Crow Armstrong, Mets legend and Kyle
• 21:41
  Tucker, definitely deserving of that.
• 21:42
  And then? James Armstrong's a young kid.
• 21:44
  Why do you say Mets legend? Because he's killed the Mets.
• 21:46
  No, because he used to be a prospect.
• 21:47
  He was actually traded for bias at the time, so it's funny to
• 21:49
  think that now neither of them are with the Mets and they're
• 21:51
  both All Stars. But that's a whole other story.
• 21:53
  But. Why are you crying?
• 21:55
  You got Juan Soto, you got a team right now that's as good.
• 21:58
  I know right now, over the last couple of weeks, they haven't
• 22:00
  been as good as they were in the beginning of the season, but
• 22:03
  they're still going to make the playoffs.
• 22:04
  There's a very good chance that the Mets could get hot or they
• 22:06
  make a trade at the trade deadline that can give an
• 22:09
  additional pitching arm that they're going to desperately
• 22:12
  need moving forward. Because as we spoke about this
• 22:15
  job over the before the season started, the Mets put all their
• 22:18
  eggs in one basket. And that was Juan Soto's basket,
• 22:21
  which was $768 million worth. And they didn't put it in the
• 22:25
  most important part when it comes to their pitching.
• 22:28
  They could have went after Max Free.
• 22:29
  They could have went after some of these better pitchers that
• 22:32
  were available in the offseason. There were two of them that went
• 22:34
  to the Dodgers. They had a chance to land one of
• 22:37
  these pitchers. Instead, they put all their
• 22:39
  eggs, eggs and Juan Soto's basket and I believe Jabba.
• 22:42
  That cost the Mets an opportunity to really take a
• 22:45
  long lead, an early long lead in the National League, where maybe
• 22:49
  at the All Star break, no matter how bad the Mets have played
• 22:52
  over the last couple of weeks, it would everybody would have
• 22:55
  been chasing them. Yeah, I, I think it's you knew
• 22:59
  what you were going to get from. So you're going to get great at
• 23:02
  bats. You're going to get, you know,
• 23:05
  he doesn't give away, you know, free outs.
• 23:08
  He's going to have a one to one ratio usually on walks to
• 23:11
  strikeouts. He's going to have an OPS
• 23:13
  upwards of, you know, 900 to 1000 and it it towards the end
• 23:18
  of the year. It'll be interesting to see if
• 23:20
  how his home run numbers translate because he's at 21
• 23:24
  right now and he hit 41 if I recall last year at Yankee
• 23:28
  Stadium, which was his career high.
• 23:29
  I'd like to see the Yeah, I'd like to see the splits between
• 23:32
  home and away. Last year I didn't really delve
• 23:34
  into that too much, but I mean, there's a lot I I can see why,
• 23:38
  you know, obviously he has a, a snub per SE.
• 23:42
  I mean, his his numbers didn't start off great and I think that
• 23:45
  obviously kind of hurt him. But I mean, obviously being in
• 23:48
  New York and having that fanfare and in the last three, I'll give
• 23:52
  it like, yeah, three weeks to a month.
• 23:55
  He you know, he's obviously been a different player.
• 23:56
  The Soto shuffle came back a little bit.
• 23:59
  You know, that swagger where, you know, sometimes that happens
• 24:01
  where, you know, you you come into it and, you know, you
• 24:05
  forget what made you successful because everybody's like doesn't
• 24:08
  look like he's having fun. He's not doing the Soto shuffle.
• 24:10
  And then when he kind of I don't know if did a self reflect or a
• 24:14
  reboot or whatever you want to call it, where he's like, all
• 24:17
  right, this made me successful. You know, people like that it as
• 24:20
  who I am and that's that, you know, kind of player I am.
• 24:22
  So there's a lot of other dudes that aren't names that are
• 24:27
  having great years, like Suzuki from the Cubs.
• 24:30
  It sucks. He's behind Otani because he's
• 24:32
  sitting. He has 25 homers and 77 RBIs.
• 24:35
  Yeah, he was. One of these almost.
• 24:37
  I think the lot of the outfielders, I think in general,
• 24:39
  George Springer was another one too.
• 24:40
  That was a pretty big snub, having a very good bounce back
• 24:43
  year in Toronto and. Yeah, he's in 281 with 16 and
• 24:46
  53. He's got ten stolen bases,
• 24:47
  almost 900 OPS. Another one is.
• 24:50
  Anybody crying about that? Why is everybody crying about
• 24:52
  snubs? Because if I was any of these
• 24:55
  players, I'm enjoying my family. I'm going, I'm going to Hawaii,
• 24:58
  I'm going to a Cayman Island. I don't care if I'm playing in
• 25:02
  the All Star game. Who cares if they're a snub?
• 25:04
  They get a chance to spend time with their family for a week
• 25:06
  instead of or two weeks where they don't have to go and play
• 25:09
  in those games to put themselves, their bodies on the
• 25:12
  line just for the fans. I think I'm just want to rest
• 25:14
  and give my give my an opportunity.
• 25:17
  Remember, there's 162 games job, but we talk about this all the
• 25:20
  time and you don't really get a chance to spend it with your
• 25:22
  family. Why would you want to go to the
• 25:24
  All Star game when you have a chance to spend it, you know,
• 25:26
  during the the next week, two weeks where you could?
• 25:29
  Spend your home with you. There's multiple reasons why.
• 25:32
  First, it's an honor. Second of all, it helps your
• 25:35
  contract. Third of all, you make more
• 25:38
  money and when you go in now you're a four time All Star.
• 25:42
  You're this, this and then that helps bolster your number of
• 25:46
  getting paid. So yes, some people, you know,
• 25:49
  they'd like to well, and it used to be you could get out of it
• 25:51
  and say you're not going to play now.
• 25:53
  Now you don't have that option. They they nixed that probably
• 25:56
  like that was probably 810 years ago because guys were like,
• 25:59
  yeah, I'm going to go to the All Star game, but I'm not doing
• 26:01
  anything. You're getting credit.
• 26:02
  For it and. Do nothing.
• 26:03
  Yeah, yeah. Then you'd still get, you'd
• 26:04
  still get the bonus, you'd still get all the perks.
• 26:07
  You just didn't play and you have to be hurt now or like if
• 26:10
  you're selected as a pitcher, you still go.
• 26:13
  But obviously like school, he, he, he started yesterday.
• 26:16
  So it'll be interesting to see kind of how they they played
• 26:20
  that off. I would I would doubt that he's
• 26:22
  going to start it because then that'll give him like a week.
• 26:26
  But you never know. And we've seen how it's come to
• 26:28
  bite people in the ass sometimes.
• 26:29
  Remember when Brad Penny started, he had that great first
• 26:32
  start through every pitch at 100 and couldn't get anybody out in
• 26:35
  the second-half. So.
• 26:37
  Jabo, Juan Soto made his money. So you think Juan Soto cares
• 26:40
  that he was snubbed? He made $768 million, so I don't
• 26:44
  think he cares if he's in the All Star game.
• 26:45
  Or not. Yeah, but I mean at the same it
• 26:47
  just depends. Like to be an All Star is to be
• 26:49
  an All Star. I don't care.
• 26:52
  Does he care? I don't know that that's guess
• 26:54
  you'd have to ask him that. But yeah, it's, it's, it's
• 26:57
  something to, you know, to be proud of, to, to be in that
• 27:01
  situation. And it it's still kind of weird
• 27:04
  because I remember a year and it was right after we won the World
• 27:06
  Series in 2015 with the Royals, Omar Infante was hitting 189 as
• 27:11
  a second baseman. He was leading the AL and vote
• 27:13
  gets. Yeah, I think that was a weird
• 27:14
  year. That was like the Royals and
• 27:16
  Cubs were like stabbed like this ballot stuffing that whole year.
• 27:19
  And Aston Russell was an All Star starter at shortstop for no
• 27:22
  reason. He's.
• 27:23
  Numbered very. League average.
• 27:25
  Yeah, as nuts and it's so I mean, and there's there's some
• 27:28
  teams that are so bad they have to have one representative.
• 27:31
  So it's, you know, you're kind of, you're kind of stuck on.
• 27:34
  That's the case this year though, because the Pirates
• 27:36
  representative is Skins, obviously the the Rockies
• 27:39
  representative is Hunter Goodman, who's a very good.
• 27:41
  Young. All kinds of.
• 27:41
  Catcher. No, I mean, yeah, but they
• 27:43
  they're not taking more. They're going to have to have at
• 27:45
  least one and obviously skins and and they're going to have
• 27:48
  one, one player that's deserving of making it.
• 27:51
  And I mean, it's like I said, lesser names like Jumer Caminero
• 27:55
  from the Rays, you know, he's got 21 homers and 57 stakes and
• 27:59
  he's a an 800 OPS. So there's literally there's a
• 28:03
  lot of choices. But I think too, it comes down
• 28:06
  to, you know, the likeability and, and some of these other
• 28:10
  names like, you know, just Andrew Abbott is not a name that
• 28:14
  people know, but he's 7:00 and 1:00 with 15 starts for the Reds
• 28:19
  with a 215 ERA. Not, not a big name.
• 28:23
  Another guy, Joe Ryan has 18 starts.
• 28:25
  He's 84 with a 27, but he's with the Twins.
• 28:28
  So you know, it's not, it's not the sexiest thing when you know,
• 28:31
  you're in those, those smaller markets and how you know that
• 28:37
  that following or whatever. I, if it was, if it was
• 28:40
  literally like I would, I would reverse it if, if this was me,
• 28:44
  like let the players decide who the starters are and still keep
• 28:48
  the fans involved, but then let them do the Subs because then
• 28:51
  it's going to be their favorite players.
• 28:54
  And I think that would be that would make more sense to me of
• 28:58
  having the players pick the starters and then have the fans
• 29:01
  because now then you get, you know, obviously more guys that
• 29:05
  is, oh, he's a fan favorite. And but the ones that are going
• 29:09
  to play because obviously the starters aren't playing the
• 29:11
  whole game because the game isn't like it used to be where
• 29:14
  whoever won, they got home field advantage in in the World
• 29:17
  Series. So.
• 29:18
  Leading to the 83 win Cardinals having home field advantage
• 29:21
  against the Tigers in O. 6 I think the importance right now
• 29:23
  going into the All Star game is who is going to stay hot after
• 29:27
  it and who's going to make those trades at the Because right
• 29:31
  after the All Star game, what is it like 2 weeks after?
• 29:34
  It's the trade deadline. It's very fast now, baseball.
• 29:37
  August. August 1st, yeah.
• 29:39
  Rob Manford or Manfred has decided over the last couple of
• 29:43
  years that he wanted to move the trade deadline a little bit up,
• 29:46
  a little bit closer after the All Star break.
• 29:49
  So it gives teams a little bit less of a time to try to
• 29:52
  transition maybe. Obviously there's a waiver,
• 29:55
  waiver wire at the tail end of the season where there are teams
• 29:58
  that drop players and they could add players.
• 30:00
  And also over the years we've seen teams actually make trades
• 30:04
  before after the trade deadline, which makes no sense.
• 30:07
  I don't get the baseball trade deadline.
• 30:09
  If it's over, it's over. Why do these trades actually go
• 30:12
  through? Yeah, it's the revocable waiver
• 30:14
  clause. I don't get it.
• 30:16
  Yeah, it's technically, you see it.
• 30:18
  Actually, you see it a lot in like older guys that have big
• 30:20
  contracts. Well, basically nobody's
• 30:23
  obviously going to do it, but they're technically like they
• 30:25
  did with AJ Burnett and they put him technically on the waiver
• 30:29
  wire to see if anybody would pick it up.
• 30:30
  But obviously that's 9.99 times out of 10 that it never happens.
• 30:36
  But yeah, you, you see it every once in a while, so but yeah, it
• 30:40
  used to be the week like that that week of August, but now the
• 30:44
  trade deadline ends the 31st, I think it's like.
• 30:47
  Jabba the only exciting thing when it comes to the All Star
• 30:49
  Break is is the Home Run Derby. That's all I care about.
• 30:52
  I don't care about the game. I never watch the game past the
• 30:55
  three innings. I want to see what the starting
• 30:57
  pitchers are going to do. And then I get to see Aaron
• 31:00
  Judge because he's he's going to be up maybe twice, maybe three
• 31:03
  times, depending on who they're going to move and how they're
• 31:05
  going to rotate the rosters during the game.
• 31:08
  So that's the only next time I want to watch the All Star game.
• 31:10
  I don't really care about anything else but that.
• 31:13
  I, I, to me, I, I think that when you look at the All Star,
• 31:17
  the All Star game, you'll get a chance to see some of these
• 31:19
  players when the World Championships, what do they call
• 31:22
  that the World Cup of baseball in, at, at the end of the
• 31:25
  season, where in the offseason, when you get to see Team USA
• 31:29
  and, and team Team Canada and team Puerto Rico and team
• 31:33
  Dominican Republic, you're going to get a lot of, you're going to
• 31:35
  get a chance to see a lot of those superstar players in the
• 31:37
  All Star games because these guys, those are the best players
• 31:40
  in the world. So that's what I'm looking
• 31:42
  forward to, getting a chance to see some of these players in
• 31:44
  action playing with one another. But I, I really, that's the only
• 31:47
  time I really care about these All Star games is, is the World
• 31:51
  Championships now. OK, you always you always give
• 31:54
  dudes a hard time for not participating in in the dunk
• 31:57
  contest in basketball, yes. So what?
• 31:59
  What's your opinion on judge never doing other than one year?
• 32:05
  I will. I'll answer you right now
• 32:07
  because Giancarlo Stanton did it one year too.
• 32:10
  The thing is, after you do it one year, besides Pete Alonso,
• 32:13
  who loves it, he loves being center of attention.
• 32:16
  This is what Pete Alonso loves. He loves being there smacking
• 32:19
  balls and everybody saying polar bear and all that other crap
• 32:23
  that he does. His little stomach roll or
• 32:24
  whatever the hell he does. That's great for him and I, I'm
• 32:27
  not, I'm not taking shots at Pete Alonso because he loves to
• 32:30
  compete. The thing is, over the years,
• 32:33
  and we've heard this about home run derbies, as soon as you play
• 32:36
  in the home run, as soon as you hit in the Home Run Derby, your
• 32:39
  swing is short. You're not.
• 32:41
  You don't have the same swing after the Home Run Derby.
• 32:44
  We've seen players have problems after.
• 32:47
  I remember Hamilton, Hamilton won the Home Run Derby in in
• 32:50
  Yankee Stadium. I remember.
• 32:51
  No, he didn't. He didn't win.
• 32:53
  Because of the old rule, he didn't win because they.
• 32:55
  Reset all right. Whatever, it never.
• 32:58
  Nevertheless, after after the Home Run Derby, Hamilton for
• 33:02
  like weeks couldn't hit a home run.
• 33:04
  He had problems. I had like two or three home
• 33:06
  runs in the first three weeks after the All Star break.
• 33:10
  And you, you don't want to see that hurt your swing.
• 33:12
  We've heard that in Home Run Derby.
• 33:14
  So Pete Alonso don't care. And by the way, last year after
• 33:18
  the after the Home Run Derby, Pete Alonso was pretty, pretty
• 33:21
  good. But the year before that, Pete
• 33:23
  Alonso couldn't hit a home run for a month.
• 33:25
  So I think Aaron Judge is protecting himself, obviously
• 33:28
  the injury situation and he's he's looking for the long haul.
• 33:33
  He wants the Yankees to go to the World Series.
• 33:34
  He wants to win a championship. So I understand what you're
• 33:37
  saying. You want to see Aaron Judge face
• 33:40
  again, you know, face Pete Alonso.
• 33:41
  You want John Carlos, Dan to face Aaron Judge.
• 33:43
  You want to see Julio Rodriguez and Vladimir Guerrero.
• 33:47
  You want to see all these superstar guys go at it one at a
• 33:50
  time. The problem is when you look at
• 33:53
  the game and you you look at obviously the fans, some of
• 33:55
  these players don't care about going into a Home Run Derby and
• 33:58
  trying to oppress, impress all the fans that are watching on
• 34:01
  television or watching in the arena.
• 34:03
  All they care about is winning the World Series.
• 34:05
  And by the way, Aaron Judge hasn't won a World Series since
• 34:07
  he's come up with the New York Yankees.
• 34:08
  So I think he's more entitled to, I mean, I think fans are
• 34:13
  more entitled to complain about it.
• 34:15
  But I think Aaron Judge as a player and as a as a captain, he
• 34:19
  cares about winning championships.
• 34:21
  I don't think he cares about winning home run derbies.
• 34:23
  Sean Brown. In the comments section to
• 34:24
  Goldie deserved a nod as a reserve.
• 34:26
  Yeah, his numbers are definitely.
• 34:27
  Close. He fell.
• 34:28
  He fell off. Yeah, he fell off a little bit.
• 34:30
  That's where that's where Jonathan Aranda, young kid for
• 34:32
  the Rays, got the other reserve spot.
• 34:34
  So obviously Vlad was going to be the starter.
• 34:36
  He's been the best by far of first base.
• 34:38
  But yeah, his numbers are not far off from Aranda.
• 34:40
  So that it definitely was the case.
• 34:41
  And Jamie Lee, Toronto's been killing it this year as well.
• 34:43
  Yeah, they're probably the biggest surprise team in the
• 34:45
  American. League this year Goldschmidt was
• 34:48
  going to be fool's gold all along.
• 34:49
  Unfortunately his bat speed has still gone down from last year.
• 34:53
  He had a real hot first couple of month and a half really and
• 34:57
  then he saw the splits. Goldie cannot face off against
• 35:03
  same side pitching. That's what's that's what's
• 35:05
  going on right now. So he's he's going to have to be
• 35:07
  a platoon guy the rest of the way and they're probably going
• 35:10
  to do a platoon with him and Ben Rice.
• 35:11
  Ben Rice will play some catcher right now and he's going to play
• 35:15
  some first base and that's what they're going to do.
• 35:17
  Goldie's not an All Star, but he could have gotten one of those
• 35:19
  like memorial positions that they gave to Clayton Kershaw
• 35:23
  because he is a former MVP. He is a great player entering
• 35:26
  his late 30s. Maybe he's not.
• 35:28
  I don't think he's retiring at the end of this year, but he's
• 35:30
  the type of guy that you would give that I that.
• 35:32
  How many times have they given that out that I've?
• 35:35
  Ever heard this? That kind of.
• 35:36
  Thing yeah, the the legends pick, this is the first year.
• 35:38
  You see that arrow? It's a Legends pick that Clayton
• 35:41
  Kershaw gets to be in the All Star game because it's his last
• 35:43
  year. Hey, what you know what we
• 35:45
  should do if if a fan is a legend, they should be able to
• 35:48
  play in the All Star game. Hey, he's a legend.
• 35:51
  He was he tried to RIP Mookie Betts his arm off in the in the
• 35:55
  Yankee Stadium, you know, during the playoffs got him in the
• 35:58
  game. Let's let's play the outfield.
• 36:00
  Let him play center field. Have the kid.
• 36:03
  Have the kid who corralled the most.
• 36:05
  Legend might crush. OK, I should be, I should be the
• 36:09
  dancing phenomenon over there, you know, in, in the outfield
• 36:13
  when the home Run Derby's going around, you know, I'll put on
• 36:15
  like a wig and and I'll, I'll, I'll dress like Rex Ryan did,
• 36:20
  you know, at the press conferences when he was wearing
• 36:23
  a mop on his head And maybe somebody could try to hit me in
• 36:25
  the ass or something and that'll, that'll give you 500
• 36:27
  points. So I mean, baseball's trying to
• 36:30
  find a way to, you know, interest people to watch the the
• 36:35
  game. Now, the interesting part of the
• 36:37
  All Star game is really the home run derbies and, and all the
• 36:40
  different things offset from the game.
• 36:43
  I don't care about the game because honestly, the only
• 36:46
  people that care about the game are the pitchers.
• 36:49
  I I really do believe that because they want to, they want
• 36:52
  to look like, Hey, I'm going to strike out this guy.
• 36:54
  I'm going to strike out the best hitters in baseball screwball.
• 36:56
  I remember Harvey when he started in the All Star game and
• 36:59
  how hard he was throwing. He was throwing like a hundred
• 37:01
  101. Remember that and that Harvey
• 37:03
  was like The Dark Knight and everybody want to see Matt
• 37:05
  Harvey and he what did he have two innings with no hits and six
• 37:09
  strikeouts and everybody's saying he's the All Star.
• 37:11
  He's the All Star in VP. I think that's all I want to
• 37:14
  see. I want to see screwball.
• 37:15
  I want to see the the elite pitchers, the the, the scrubals
• 37:19
  or whoever starts for The Who starts for the National League
• 37:21
  right now. Who's the hottest pitcher right
• 37:22
  now in. The National League Who's going
• 37:24
  to be schemes? Or Zach Wheeler.
• 37:26
  Or Wheeler that. Was obviously the second one
• 37:28
  because Wheeler just had a great start.
• 37:29
  Yesterday, by the way, I want to, I want to say something
• 37:31
  about Zach Wheeler, Mikey C, if you're listening to the show
• 37:34
  right now. Legend.
• 37:35
  Yes, I want, I want to say something to him because over
• 37:38
  the years, my argument with Mike, we were trying to go
• 37:41
  through the Mets and, and there are 4 superstar pitchers.
• 37:45
  We had Steven Mats, we had the Thor, we call him you know, Mr.
• 37:50
  Noah Syndergaard. We had Matt Harvey, The Dark
• 37:53
  Knight, Zach Wheeler and Jacob degrom.
• 37:55
  They were those were their pitching, that was their
• 37:57
  pitching staff. When everybody was talking, it
• 37:59
  was an unbelievable pitching staff for maybe a year when they
• 38:01
  went all the way to the World Series.
• 38:03
  Now when me and Mike were arguing, he said Jacob degrom
• 38:06
  was the better of the pitchers and I said Zach Wheeler is going
• 38:10
  to be in a long haul. If, you know, over the next 10
• 38:13
  to 12 years, I believe Zach Wheeler is the best pitcher of
• 38:16
  all of them. And if the Mets don't keep them,
• 38:18
  which I believe they won't because they're going to be too
• 38:20
  demanding to sign Matt Harvey or Thor, they're going to walk away
• 38:25
  and let Zach Wheeler go on to to another team, another
• 38:28
  organization where he's going to dominate.
• 38:29
  And boy, oh boy, Mikey, see, 99% or 90% always right.
• 38:34
  You were wrong, buddy. And I love Jacob degrom.
• 38:37
  The best pitcher of that pitching staff, it's Zach
• 38:40
  Wheeler. It's not even an argument.
• 38:41
  Zach Wheeler over the last five years has been unbelievable in
• 38:45
  the National League. Jacob degrom has had great.
• 38:47
  The last five years because he's been hurt.
• 38:49
  Yeah, but if you are better, Zach Wheelers numbers are better
• 38:53
  than Jacob degrom because Jacob degrom don't play that many
• 38:56
  games. Jacob degrom is never the last
• 38:58
  five years. Yeah, but if you look at their
• 39:00
  career, Zach Wheeler has been a better pitcher.
• 39:03
  If you look at the numbers, Zach has been better.
• 39:06
  He has been and he's played in more games, more strikeouts.
• 39:09
  I think he's been the more dominant pitcher in his career.
• 39:13
  And if you were to ask me right now, none of them are Hall of
• 39:15
  Farmers, but he's playing in the National League East.
• 39:19
  That's what he's playing in. Now we go back and you you talk
• 39:22
  about Jacob the Grom, where is he playing it?
• 39:24
  He's not in he's not in the National League anymore.
• 39:27
  So and he gets healthy. We talked about.
• 39:31
  Talk about the games. Talk about the games because you
• 39:33
  don't play a lot. Jacob, the stat, the stat for
• 39:37
  the Hall of Fame, we talked about it the other day.
• 39:39
  Speedy was if you have a WAR between 50 and 70, you're
• 39:42
  usually a Hall of Famer. Jacob degrom sitting at 48.2 is
• 39:46
  that player sitting at 39.9. So despite the fact that he
• 39:51
  hasn't played WAR is a cumulative stat, that means he's
• 39:53
  been nine wins more valuable. That's a seat like two seasons,
• 39:57
  almost two seasons worth of wins more valuable than Wheeler.
• 40:00
  You forget Wheeler was hurt a lot earlier in his career.
• 40:03
  And I stayed away from him in fantasy drafts for years because
• 40:07
  every year they said, oh, this is the year he's going to blow
• 40:10
  out his arm again and that's it. But he's been healthy and he's
• 40:13
  been pitching many, many more innings than anyone ever
• 40:16
  thought, and he's getting close. I don't think he's a Hall of
• 40:19
  Famer. You have to.
• 40:19
  I didn't say I don't think Jacob degrom is a whole offense, but.
• 40:22
  Degrom is real close to being a whole.
• 40:24
  He doesn't play enough. He doesn't.
• 40:26
  Play. He might not make it, but he's
• 40:27
  close. He's close.
• 40:28
  I, I don't think he plays enough.
• 40:30
  I think if you look at both guys, Zach Wheeler and Jacob
• 40:33
  degrom, if you would ask me right now if I'm AGM of a team
• 40:36
  in an organization, I'm taking Zach Wheeler of a Jacob degrom
• 40:38
  right now 2. Years younger.
• 40:39
  Slam dunk, Absolutely. And if you remember the the Zach
• 40:44
  Wheeler trade, he was traded for Carlos Beltran.
• 40:48
  If you remember, as the New York Mets obviously decided to part
• 40:52
  ways with Carlos Beltran, he went to the Giants.
• 40:54
  And Zach Wheeler was a talented young man in the Giants farm
• 40:59
  system. Could you imagine if Zach
• 41:00
  Wheeler was still with the Giants, that organization, with
• 41:03
  all the great pitchers they've had over the years?
• 41:04
  And by the way, that organization has had dime pieces
• 41:08
  over the air. Lincolnsum, remember him?
• 41:10
  He was a he was a great pitcher. Who was the other one?
• 41:13
  That was Matt Kane. There were a lot of them.
• 41:15
  Bob Garner, yeah. There were a lot of them and,
• 41:17
  and, and Zach Wheeler has, if you look at his who he is and
• 41:21
  what he's done over the last couple of years, he's been
• 41:24
  pretty dominant. He's one of the best strikeout
• 41:25
  pitchers right now in baseball and he's playing in the National
• 41:28
  League East. The National League East, you
• 41:30
  can argue is the hardest division in baseball right now.
• 41:33
  I don't think you could argue that the Braves are in that
• 41:35
  division. Philadelphia, the Mets, even the
• 41:37
  Marlins have played pretty well over the last couple of weeks.
• 41:40
  So I, you could argue that's the best division in baseball.
• 41:44
  And Zach Wheeler is the best pitcher in that in that
• 41:47
  division. So I don't think you can argue
• 41:49
  that anymore about him. And I, I'm not saying I don't
• 41:52
  like Jacob degrom. Jacob degrom is a sensational
• 41:54
  pitcher. I just think that Jacob degrom
• 41:56
  is an injury prone player and he'll always be considered that.
• 41:59
  And his time with the Mets has been really, really was because
• 42:02
  the Mets couldn't hit in front of him.
• 42:04
  And Zach Wheeler over the years when he was with the Mets, he
• 42:07
  couldn't stay healthy enough to pitch for the Mets.
• 42:09
  That was the the up down thought of where Zach Wheelers.
• 42:13
  And by the way, if the Mets could go back in Brody Van Wagon
• 42:16
  and can change the the the twister game and he twisted
• 42:21
  another way, he would have kept Zach Wheeler.
• 42:23
  That was a big mistake by the organization and the whale
• 42:25
  ponds. And I think they're licking
• 42:27
  their lips, watching what Zach Wheeler's done for the
• 42:30
  Philadelphia Phillies. Yeah, they actually in the last
• 42:32
  five years since he's joined the Phillies, he actually has three
• 42:35
  years out of the six years that he's been besides the short
• 42:37
  year, 10 or more strikeouts per 9 innings in in.
• 42:41
  And he leads baseball this year, 11.5 strikeouts per nine innings
• 42:44
  this year, 39.3 with, like you said, Fish with the career WAR
• 42:48
  is probably mostly with the time with the Phillies.
• 42:50
  So he's going to need more and probably both pitchers are going
• 42:53
  to have to get to 2000 strikeouts in order to get
• 42:55
  there. So yeah, you're looking at a
• 42:57
  pace of both of them. Probably two more years, maybe
• 42:59
  three more years. A Wheeler, at the current
• 43:00
  strikeout pace might get there next year.
• 43:02
  He's at 1773. It's Wheeler.
• 43:05
  Wheeler's sitting at 3.8 WAR that's tied for third in all of
• 43:09
  baseball, with Garrett Froshay just behind Scuba and Skeens.
• 43:14
  That's how good we're talking. Zach Wheeler is at age 35.
• 43:18
  So I would say they did mess up pretty badly selecting The Dark
• 43:22
  Knight Knight and Thor of that that that grouping that had two
• 43:27
  almost Hall of farmers. Maybe, you know, maybe they
• 43:30
  changed things later on. Could have been three could have
• 43:32
  been three could have been three.
• 43:34
  It's pretty wild. But now they're OK because they
• 43:37
  spent $765 million on Juan Soto and 6868.
• 43:41
  My mistake. Errol, you you said that he
• 43:44
  should go home and stay with his family on the All Star break.
• 43:47
  But but Errol the the uncle Stevie in that contract made
• 43:52
  sure that because it was such a bad time that he had a Yankee
• 43:55
  Stadium. His family that his family is
• 43:58
  taken care of. He is his family has a designer
• 44:00
  jet to get to wherever they want.
• 44:02
  They'll go down to Atlanta, They'll have a grand old job
• 44:05
  are. You going to send me my designer
• 44:07
  jet from the Jabba Chamberlain jet where I could jump in and
• 44:11
  and fly wherever I want? I mean, I'm sure you have a jet
• 44:13
  somewhere, right, Jabba? You invested in Jabba Air?
• 44:16
  Jabba Air. Yeah, no, I, I just, I just call
• 44:19
  Al Palagonia from Apollo jets. Apollo Jabba, I'm.
• 44:23
  Snorting now if Java were. A custom jet.
• 44:26
  He would get it with a Nebraska logo.
• 44:29
  He's the dude. You obviously watch Knick games
• 44:31
  right? Of course, yeah.
• 44:33
  Yeah, he's the dude that sits right next to Spike.
• 44:35
  I farted. Really.
• 44:37
  Oh, Jabba, just so you know, a little teaser for later, we got
• 44:40
  a Nebraska story and dial it up later tonight.
• 44:42
  Yum Yum solid. Just give you a couple of guys
• 44:46
  we didn't mention that were snubbed.
• 44:48
  Joe Ryan didn't make the All Star team.
• 44:50
  The Twins ace, he is awesome. He's got like a 2.6 ERA this
• 44:54
  year. He's got more strikeouts than
• 44:56
  innings pitched. He's over 100 innings pitched.
• 44:59
  Let's face it, this guy should have been in the All Star game.
• 45:01
  There's no question Julio Rodriguez made the All Star game
• 45:04
  with a sub 700 OPS. That usually means you're not a
• 45:08
  good starting player in Major League Baseball, especially if
• 45:11
  you're considered a power hitter.
• 45:12
  I don't really think that he should have made the team in a
• 45:15
  year when Mookie Betts didn't make the team with similar
• 45:17
  struggles. Doesn't make any sense to me.
• 45:20
  Trey Turner didn't make this team even though he's having an
• 45:22
  amazing year because of the stacked situation behind Lindor
• 45:25
  and Ellie Delacruz. I still would have found a way
• 45:28
  to put that guy on. Jeremy Pena didn't make the
• 45:31
  team. He know we know he's hurt, so
• 45:32
  he's going to be replaced. There will be some injury
• 45:34
  replacement guys. Some guys, even if they're not
• 45:37
  on the IL, you know, like I know Jose Ramirez got some bumps and
• 45:40
  bruises. He may not come in.
• 45:42
  There's going to be some guys like that.
• 45:43
  So we'll see some of these guys. I'm sure Soto will eventually
• 45:46
  make this team. I, I said that and I, I want to
• 45:48
  give a shout out to Alex Bregman.
• 45:49
  Bregman, who's had a really good season.
• 45:51
  He deserves absolutely an opportunity to play on this
• 45:55
  team. Now he's been up and down, but
• 45:57
  when he got hot early in the season, he was batting at one
• 45:59
  point, I think at 3:40. He was, I don't think anybody
• 46:03
  wanted to pitch to him. He they were pitching around
• 46:05
  found him, but I mean he's taken a couple of steps back.
• 46:08
  It's been back and forth, but Bregman has really been a great
• 46:11
  addition to the Boston, the Boston Boston Reds.
• 46:15
  I'm about to say Bruins, but I'm thinking about hockey over the
• 46:18
  last couple of weeks because this offseason is going to be
• 46:21
  big for all the New York teams. As a matter as a matter of fact,
• 46:24
  the trade deadline. I mean, not the trade deadline,
• 46:26
  the offseason free agency market and everything that's gone on
• 46:29
  with the Rangers and the outages.
• 46:30
  But that's that's past tense. But going back to this, I Bobby
• 46:34
  Witt junior I still you'll expect to be one of these, you
• 46:38
  know, American League chances to win the MVPII think he hasn't
• 46:44
  had a really good start in the season.
• 46:46
  I expect the second-half to be a lot better.
• 46:48
  Bobby Witt is one of the best infielders in baseball and I
• 46:51
  think we'll see a lot better when it comes it comes to
• 46:54
  statistics offensively in the second-half of the season.
• 46:57
  The one guy that I've been very impressed pressed for and and
• 47:01
  and the guy that I've mentioned is the infield of the Detroit
• 47:04
  Tigers. And that's Gaber Torres, who has
• 47:07
  been unbelievable. If you look at Gaber Torres, his
• 47:09
  numbers, Gaber Torres hasn't been this good in maybe the
• 47:14
  first season with our first two seasons with the New York
• 47:17
  Yankees. Think about this. 279 at bats,
• 47:20
  47 runs, 77 hits, nine home runs.
• 47:23
  This is a second baseman, OK, 44 RB is four stolen bases and
• 47:29
  batting 276 right now and is OPS8O6I mean he's he's doing
• 47:35
  he's doing what you wanted him to do with the New York Yankees
• 47:39
  that one year where he had forty home runs and he hit like 13 of
• 47:42
  them with the Baltimore the Orioles park.
• 47:46
  I remember that he thirteen home runs against the Orioles.
• 47:49
  Besides that he he has not had that power season.
• 47:53
  I could see Gleber Torres if he continues moving forward at
• 47:58
  second base right now for Detroit.
• 47:59
  He can hit probably 2526 home runs give you close to 100 RBI
• 48:04
  this year. And this is slam dunk contract
• 48:06
  for the Detroit Tigers where the Yankees are probably saying,
• 48:10
  even though Chisholm has had a pretty good season since he's
• 48:13
  come back, Glaver Torres has been a better player and been
• 48:16
  more healthier this season than Chisholm has.
• 48:19
  And Glaver Torres has been up and down with injuries.
• 48:22
  Remember that UCL tear that he had with the Yankees when he he
• 48:25
  slid into home plate at home plate and he was out for
• 48:28
  practically a whole season. So I, I expect Glaver Torres to
• 48:32
  earn himself a lot of money in the offseason.
• 48:34
  If I'm not mistaken, he only saw right?
• 48:35
  What was it? A year contract.
• 48:36
  One year. It was one year. 15,000,000.
• 48:38
  He's going to earn himself a lot of money.
• 48:41
  I, I could see a team giving him 353536 million if he continues
• 48:45
  playing the way he is. He's been unbelievable and he's
• 48:48
  been pretty good defensively right now for the Tigers too,
• 48:51
  which is one of the better defensive team defensive
• 48:54
  infields in all the baseball, right?
• 48:56
  Now, Speedy, that's the killer, isn't it?
• 48:58
  Yeah, Speedy, how bad were Gleyber Torres's defensive
• 49:01
  metrics with the Yankees? Because they made us feel like
• 49:04
  they were so bad that they had to get rid of this guy.
• 49:06
  Yeah, they and they were highly touting him as a prospect for a
• 49:09
  while defensively for what he was able to do that he just
• 49:12
  wasn't good enough to play shortstop.
• 49:13
  But he still was supposed to be rising as a second baseman.
• 49:16
  And it never took off whatsoever.
• 49:17
  And it got really bad where it got in his head enough.
• 49:20
  And like you said, the range factor has not been nearly to
• 49:22
  that same level. And he's been definitely a lot
• 49:24
  better since going to the Tigers.
• 49:25
  Maybe, again, there could be a confidence thing.
• 49:27
  Errol and I were talking about it before the show with earlier
• 49:30
  today with Anthony Volpe and I was comparing it to Amed
• 49:33
  Rosario. Like Amed Rosario is supposed to
• 49:34
  be that same kind of thing and Volpe even better to that level.
• 49:37
  Neither of them were able to get it going defensively whatsoever.
• 49:39
  Sometimes it just gets in your head like that.
• 49:41
  But fish range factor is a whole different like a skill set type.
• 49:44
  Thing how about the return of Ronald Lacuna this year?
• 49:46
  I mean, he's not giving you the power numbers that you would
• 49:49
  expect at the trade at the at the really the trade deadline,
• 49:53
  which is a couple weeks away, the All Star break.
• 49:55
  PS nine home runs in 18 RBIs, but he's batting 331.
• 49:58
  He he came back from those horrible injuries over the last
• 50:02
  two seasons and everybody thought, is he going to be the
• 50:04
  same player? Is he going to be the same
• 50:05
  offensive player that we remember?
• 50:07
  And Acuna obviously doesn't have the speed he once had because he
• 50:10
  has four stolen bases. Probably at the All Star break
• 50:14
  over the years, he'd have 20 to 23 stolen bases.
• 50:17
  He's he's one of those electrifying 512 players.
• 50:20
  He doesn't have that anymore, but he still can he could still
• 50:23
  play, you know, he could still play the field.
• 50:25
  What, what, what we've seen over the last couple of years and,
• 50:27
  and he could still hit the ball all the way.
• 50:29
  He has when it comes to batting average and, and hitting per,
• 50:32
  you know, per hit, what is it, 331?
• 50:35
  So every three hits, every three at 3. .1.
• 50:38
  Every three, yes. So every three at bats, he's
• 50:41
  getting a hit so. And he's only been playing since
• 50:43
  like I think the beginning of June because he's had that
• 50:45
  injury that he came back from late.
• 50:48
  So if you project his power numbers are all the power
• 50:50
  numbers are there, he's actually going to be in the Home Run
• 50:52
  Derby and. The speed, yeah, he doesn't.
• 50:55
  He doesn't even have 200 at bats yet.
• 50:57
  Yeah, so he's at was it, was it nine home runs within nine home
• 51:00
  runs? Yeah, nine home runs in one
• 51:02
  month. If you did that for the entire
• 51:04
  season, you're a 40 home run hitter.
• 51:06
  So the power, I think is still there for him.
• 51:08
  The speed on defense, the speed on the base paths.
• 51:10
  They're not going to ask him to run anymore unless it's like a
• 51:12
  big game. Does he have an error yet this
• 51:15
  year? I don't think he has an error
• 51:16
  yet in the outfield. That's a good question.
• 51:18
  I don't even think he does. He's a huge shot in the army, so
• 51:21
  if that team just had the year from hell, at least they get the
• 51:24
  host of the All Star game and enjoy Acuna being back, that's
• 51:26
  for sure. He's had to carry a really bad
• 51:28
  offense, so even when they were healthy like that, nobody else
• 51:31
  is really hitting on that team outside of Olson.
• 51:33
  Yeah, Riley's OK. They've had bad luck.
• 51:36
  They've had bad luck over the last two seasons.
• 51:38
  They just can't stay healthy. And again, they lost a lot of
• 51:41
  big names for free agency. A lot of guys came up.
• 51:45
  Max Freed, you lost Max Freed, who could very much be the
• 51:48
  starter of the American League right now in the All Star Game.
• 51:51
  Now, he won't be because Scrupal will be, but he's one of the top
• 51:55
  three pitchers right now in the American League and they had a
• 51:58
  chance to sign him in the offseason and then let him go to
• 52:00
  the Yankees. Now, obviously the Yankees paid
• 52:02
  him a lot of money, but he he was one of their best players on
• 52:05
  that roster. So now he's he's starting for
• 52:08
  the Yankees. He's a big time superstar with
• 52:10
  the New York Yankees and they're trying to figure out who their
• 52:12
  number one guy is because none of their pitchers could say
• 52:14
  healthy. Yeah, no errors yet that yet
• 52:17
  this year for a Kuni only at 2:00 last year as well even off
• 52:19
  the before the injury as well. So.
• 52:21
  And Freed is tied for fourth in WAR for pitchers with Lubich
• 52:26
  behind. Great defensive player, great
• 52:28
  defensive player. Yes, yes, Scubble Crochet and
• 52:32
  Hunter Brown ahead of them. So he's a top five guy.
• 52:35
  They gave up a top five guy for nothing.
• 52:37
  Nothing. That's that's that's what I
• 52:39
  mean, top ten in the entire league and.
• 52:41
  He's 8. The Braves, too.
• 52:42
  When when you're leading hitters in 273, it's you're struggling.
• 52:47
  Yeah, because he doesn't even qualify, right?
• 52:50
  He doesn't even qualify yet, so it doesn't even count.
• 52:52
  But the Braves have no bad season, No.
• 52:54
  No, and and again, you look at you look at the look at the
• 52:58
  opportunities right now with baseball and and the All Star
• 53:01
  game. You're excited.
• 53:02
  If you're a Braves fan, you're excited because you want to see
• 53:05
  this. You want to see an you have an
• 53:06
  opportunity to get a chance to see the Braves a host an All
• 53:11
  Star game. I always, I always went with the
• 53:13
  All Star game. I always mix it up with, you
• 53:16
  know, the Home Run Derby and, and the trade deadline, because
• 53:19
  I don't really care about the All Star game.
• 53:20
  I really don't. I just care about what happens
• 53:23
  at the Home Run Derby. Who's going to compete in the
• 53:25
  Home Run Derby? How many home runs are going to
• 53:27
  be hitting the Home Run Derby? And then the celebrity game,
• 53:29
  which I watch all the time, which is so ridiculously stupid.
• 53:33
  And watch these guys laughing and joking on the baseball
• 53:35
  field. What pitcher, what former
• 53:37
  pitcher is going to be bitching? And it's like a softball game.
• 53:40
  And it's, it's so funny, It's so stupid.
• 53:43
  Anyways. You always have the staple of
• 53:45
  Jenny Finch though. That's.
• 53:46
  True. I love Jenny Finch.
• 53:48
  I love her. Java.
• 53:49
  You ever do any of those after you retired?
• 53:53
  I played in a rec league softball one time with a bunch
• 53:56
  of buddies there you. Go Speaking of a joke Speaking
• 53:59
  of a joke, After the Yankees were swept by the Blue Jays and
• 54:03
  fell to 3rd in the American League, ace Aaron Boone still
• 54:07
  called the Yankees the best team in the league even after losing
• 54:10
  2 games to the Mets and losing their 6th game in a row.
• 54:15
  Boone added that these are the moments that build character and
• 54:20
  a good baseball team. Jazz, Chisholm or Jism, whatever
• 54:24
  you want to call them, also called the Yankees the best team
• 54:26
  in the league and they just have to block out the noise.
• 54:32
  Gary Sheffield Junior called out Aaron Boone and said he has held
• 54:37
  the Yankees back for the last four years.
• 54:39
  Michael Kay also took shots at the Blue Jays, saying they don't
• 54:43
  have the looks of a first place team Sports net.
• 54:47
  Blue Jays host Jamie Gamble took shots at Michael Kay and said
• 54:52
  that Michael Kay his claim was only based on the Yankees run
• 54:56
  differential. Kay called Campbell a fanboy and
• 55:01
  said he would never be like that with the Yankees.
• 55:05
  The Blue Jays are three games ahead of the Yankees despite the
• 55:08
  Blue Jays only having a + 12 run differential and the Yankees
• 55:13
  having a + 95 run differential. Well, Michael Kay is at it
• 55:17
  again, ladies and gentlemen. He is at it again and he's
• 55:21
  attacking Jamie Campbell now. I don't know who Jamie Campbell
• 55:24
  is, but he's attacking them now. I know who Michael Kay is.
• 55:28
  I know him personally and we all know he's a fraud when it comes
• 55:31
  to the New York Yankees. He likes to say that he's not a
• 55:34
  fanboy, the Yankees. But when when it comes down to
• 55:36
  the Yankees and speaking about the Yankees, he knows best,
• 55:39
  ladies and gentlemen, He knows more than everybody else.
• 55:42
  The problem right now with the New York Yankees is pretty
• 55:45
  simple. They depend too much on Aaron
• 55:48
  Judge. That bat is the only bat that is
• 55:51
  alive now. They say Jazz, Jazz.
• 55:53
  I'm fine. He's hot.
• 55:54
  He came back. He's playing very well.
• 55:56
  Let's see if he's consistent. Aaron Judge has been the only
• 56:00
  consistent one now for anybody to take shots.
• 56:02
  And I know I I don't know Gary Sheffield Junior.
• 56:05
  I don't know him personally. I know his father.
• 56:07
  His father was a great player, I think should be in the Hall of
• 56:10
  Fame. Did he do steroids?
• 56:11
  Yes. So did everybody else.
• 56:12
  Who cares? The fact is he was a great
• 56:14
  player. The fact is, Aaron Boone is not
• 56:18
  to be the blame of the way the Yankees are not hitting the
• 56:21
  ball. He's not.
• 56:22
  I know everybody wants to throw him under the bus and say he's
• 56:25
  held the Yankees back. How the Yankees played in the
• 56:27
  first World Series in how many years, 14 years last year and
• 56:33
  you're going to sit there and you're going to bitch and moan
• 56:34
  that Aaron Boone's hold the held the Yankees back.
• 56:37
  Here's the problem with the New York Yankees and it's pretty
• 56:39
  simple, simple. And I everyone wants to blame
• 56:41
  Brian Cashman, but Brian Cashman as AGM it's he's been a winning
• 56:46
  GM since he's gone there. The Yankees are on a streak
• 56:50
  right now. I don't know exactly.
• 56:51
  It's 35 or 36 years of winning baseball now.
• 56:56
  Winning a World Series is probably the hardest thing to do
• 56:58
  in professional sports. It is the hardest thing.
• 57:01
  I believe in professional sports even harder than winning a
• 57:04
  Stanley Cup, which everybody sits there and says is the
• 57:06
  hardest thing. 33 years, last one was in 1990. 33 years the
• 57:11
  Yankees have been dominant and a dominant factor as an
• 57:14
  organization. Now, have they won World Series
• 57:16
  since they haven't. They haven't won a World Series
• 57:18
  since 2009. It's been over 15 years.
• 57:20
  We all know that the Yankees are, but Brian Cashman has been
• 57:25
  successful enough to say that 33 seasons and now he wasn't the GM
• 57:29
  for all those seasons, but I would say 27 of them were Brian
• 57:33
  Cashman. And and to say that Brian
• 57:35
  Cashman doesn't know what he's doing.
• 57:36
  I know Jabba don't like him and that's fine.
• 57:38
  He he heard Jabba's career. He heard a lot of people's
• 57:41
  career, but he has also been a winning play, a winning pursuit
• 57:47
  of the Yankees culture. The Yankees are an organization
• 57:50
  that believes in winning, winning, winning.
• 57:52
  Now winning would also tell you World Series.
• 57:54
  But again, it's not as easy as it seems When you have what do
• 57:59
  they call that now with the the money thing where they they're
• 58:02
  talking about. No.
• 58:03
  Not the deferred money. It's not has nothing to do with
• 58:05
  the deferred money. The salary cap capping luxury
• 58:08
  tax and ever since the luxury tax came into the league, what
• 58:12
  was that 20 years ago? It's been different for the
• 58:14
  Yankees now. George Steinburn in the 90s had
• 58:17
  his way on who he wanted to bring, what veteran he wanted to
• 58:20
  bring in and how it fit with the Yankees culture.
• 58:23
  And they had a they had a core of players.
• 58:25
  They had Derek Jeter and Bernie Williams and Mariano Rivera and
• 58:30
  Andy Pettitte and and Jorge Posada.
• 58:33
  They had players that they built a core of talent.
• 58:37
  The Yankees over the years, the only core of talent they've had
• 58:40
  is Aaron Judge. And it's been a unique thought
• 58:43
  of where the Yankees go when it comes to the trade deadline or
• 58:47
  even in the offseason on how they're going to maneuver
• 58:49
  salaries and and bring in a player of Max Freed or Awan Soto
• 58:54
  signing into a six hundred, $700 million contract.
• 58:57
  It's not as easy as it seems when it comes to a cap and
• 59:00
  understanding how the luxury tax works, how much money the
• 59:03
  Yankees are going to owe to the league if they go after a
• 59:06
  playoff that magnitude. And the Yankees are still a top
• 59:09
  three, top four team right now in baseball when it comes to
• 59:12
  salaries. So I know everybody wants to
• 59:15
  point their finger at Aaron Boone.
• 59:16
  Now, is Aaron Boone a great manager?
• 59:18
  What is a great manager? Seriously, what is a great
• 59:21
  manager? It's it's not easy to win
• 59:24
  championships. Maybe there's one guy that I
• 59:26
  could say is just that dominant of a manager and he's right now
• 59:30
  managing over there in Texas. And you know what I'm talking
• 59:33
  about Speedy, he's the only one that I can honestly say.
• 59:37
  Well, he's an absolute slam dunk of a manager because everywhere
• 59:41
  he's gone he's taking his team to a World Series, at least
• 59:46
  three teams to a World Series. He's won multiple championships,
• 59:49
  so it says a lot. And he's won four championships,
• 59:52
  2 and 3, three championships with one team and and 1
• 59:55
  championship with another. And that was his first year as a
• 59:58
  manager with the Texas Rangers. He's the only one that I would
• 1:00:02
  say is a slam dunk over the years.
• 1:00:04
  Everybody wants to, you know, you know, brag about Joe Torry,
• 1:00:08
  how great of a matter he was. Meanwhile, he wasn't even the
• 1:00:10
  number one prospect. He wasn't even the number one
• 1:00:12
  slam dunk manager that George Steinbrenner wanted to hire.
• 1:00:16
  He didn't want to Joe Torry. He was the last guy on the totem
• 1:00:19
  pole. That's the facts, guys.
• 1:00:21
  Go look at it. Go look at the story behind it.
• 1:00:24
  Joe Torry was successful because George Steinbrenner and the
• 1:00:28
  organization and Watson and Brian Brian Cashman over the
• 1:00:32
  years built a farm system, built a core of players that changed
• 1:00:36
  the organization. Now again, I I'll go back to
• 1:00:40
  Aaron Boone. Aaron Boone has not been a
• 1:00:43
  successful manager at when it comes to winning.
• 1:00:45
  When you look at set records honestly in the how long has he
• 1:00:49
  been a manager for the year? 2018 so that would be.
• 1:00:52
  He's now in Year 8. Eight years.
• 1:00:55
  You compare Aaron Boone Boone's record to any of any manager in
• 1:01:01
  baseball history in an 8 year stint.
• 1:01:04
  How many? How many guys have a better
• 1:01:06
  record than Aaron Boone in an 8 year stint?
• 1:01:10
  I would probably predict maybe 55 at most.
• 1:01:14
  And I don't know off the head, I don't know what is the winning
• 1:01:19
  584 right now. So he's got his winning.
• 1:01:22
  So give me the over the years of great managers, tell me what the
• 1:01:27
  highest percentage, who has the highest percentage when it comes
• 1:01:30
  to managers in history and how many championships did they win?
• 1:01:34
  That's what I want to know. These are the questions I, I
• 1:01:38
  can't answer. I'm not in sitting in front of a
• 1:01:41
  computer trying to come up with statistics.
• 1:01:43
  Brian Cashman has been a, I mean, Brian Cashman has been a
• 1:01:45
  successful GM and Aaron Boone, for the time that he's been with
• 1:01:48
  the New York Yankees, has been successful with the New York
• 1:01:51
  Yankees. Do I think it's Brian, Brian
• 1:01:53
  Cashman or Aaron Boone's fault that the Yankees aren't hitting?
• 1:01:56
  No. The Brian Cashman gave Aaron
• 1:01:58
  Boone, the players that he thought would fill in for Juan
• 1:02:01
  Soto. They haven't provided the
• 1:02:04
  offense that they thought. Bellinger has not provided the
• 1:02:06
  offense that they thought with his swing and the way his swing
• 1:02:09
  is in Yankee Stadium would be. He hasn't had the power that the
• 1:02:12
  numbers that he thought he would have.
• 1:02:14
  So again, you're going to blame Aaron Boone because he's not
• 1:02:17
  going up to the plate, he's not swinging at the balls.
• 1:02:20
  Those players are. And again, going back to Jazz
• 1:02:23
  Chisholm, why is Jazz Chisholm opening his mouth?
• 1:02:26
  I don't want to hear about Jazz and what he thinks about the New
• 1:02:28
  York Yankees. The Yankees organization don't
• 1:02:31
  need a player like this. Nick Swisher for years was the
• 1:02:34
  bright face of the New York Yankees organization and he
• 1:02:37
  never even said, oh, we're the best team in baseball.
• 1:02:40
  We're the best. Nick Swisher said, listen, I
• 1:02:42
  love playing for the Yankees. The Yankees are great
• 1:02:44
  organization. And I just hope that we're we're
• 1:02:47
  playing in October. You never hear that.
• 1:02:49
  Jazz Chisholm actually believes that the New York Yankees are
• 1:02:51
  the best team in baseball. Meanwhile, they've been the
• 1:02:53
  worst team in in baseball in the month of June.
• 1:02:57
  So it's not been good for the New York Yankees.
• 1:03:00
  But again, if they need, if the Yankees believe that they need
• 1:03:03
  another face in the dugout to get these these players playing.
• 1:03:06
  We've seen this before. It has helped many over the
• 1:03:09
  years when it comes to baseball. Maybe that's what the Yankees
• 1:03:11
  need to do. Not because Aaron Boone is not a
• 1:03:13
  good manager, just because the Yankees are not hitting for him.
• 1:03:17
  The Yankees are not playing well with him in the dugout dugout.
• 1:03:20
  He has a career 581 winning percentage, which actually
• 1:03:24
  again, the qualifiers are tough because of dead ball era stuff
• 1:03:26
  and stuff like that. But it actually with that is
• 1:03:29
  21st all time in Major League history.
• 1:03:31
  There are some that didn't in the dead ball era that didn't
• 1:03:34
  manage anything else in an 8 year span, so the eight-year
• 1:03:38
  span I'm still trying to figure out, but that is still an
• 1:03:40
  impressive regular season winning percentage number.
• 1:03:42
  Yeah, I found similar data on that one.
• 1:03:45
  Errol and Speedy Boone is sitting there.
• 1:03:48
  Really only active guy that he's behind is Dave Roberts, and he's
• 1:03:52
  decent way behind Dave Roberts. But you know why Dave Roberts is
• 1:03:55
  there? Because he's got an even more
• 1:03:57
  stacked team and more money than the Yankees do.
• 1:04:00
  So I think I think you got to point a lot of fingers at all
• 1:04:04
  these other names are Hall of Farmers or guys that were like
• 1:04:06
  just interim coaches that had good.
• 1:04:08
  Records Who has the biggest? Who has the best winning
• 1:04:11
  percentage out of all the managers in baseball history?
• 1:04:14
  How about the? Yankees like a lot of games all
• 1:04:16
  time. Yankees Joe McCarthy with the.
• 1:04:18
  Yankees from 1926 to 1956. 5020 percentage.
• 1:04:22
  Joe McCarthy was the murderer's role coach.
• 1:04:25
  Yeah, with Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig, and he coached all the
• 1:04:28
  way through the DiMaggio years until the first half of the
• 1:04:31
  DiMaggio years. So he's definitely way up there.
• 1:04:34
  There's some other names that are in the Hall of Fame.
• 1:04:36
  I've never heard of him, so it's forever ago.
• 1:04:38
  George Wright, Ted Simmons, Al Spaulding, Comiskey, Comiskey
• 1:04:42
  Park. He's there.
• 1:04:44
  Earl Weaver. Give me the Yankee managers.
• 1:04:47
  Out of all the Yankee managers in history, where does Aaron
• 1:04:50
  Boone land of managers of all time with the Yankees?
• 1:04:54
  Because I would say he's definitely a top five.
• 1:04:57
  You can't argue that he is. Percentage wise, he definitely
• 1:04:59
  is if he's #2 on this list right now.
• 1:05:01
  And like Fish and I were saying, there's not many, there's all
• 1:05:04
  dead ball era guys in between which have been managing right
• 1:05:06
  at the same time as as McCarthy. So winning percentage wise,
• 1:05:12
  yeah, there's only there's two years that's not going to count,
• 1:05:13
  2 years not going to count. So McCarthy's 627, Casey Stengel
• 1:05:16
  will be 623, but that's his career.
• 1:05:19
  So that's not even with the Yankees.
• 1:05:21
  Joe Torry 6O56. O5.
• 1:05:24
  And. Miller, Huggins, Billy Martin,
• 1:05:27
  59. Billy Martin again, another one
• 1:05:28
  that bumped around different teams.
• 1:05:29
  So that wasn't all with the Yankees.
• 1:05:31
  True, but let's just say he's right up there with the ones
• 1:05:35
  that did the winning. Errol, you your point is
• 1:05:37
  actually valid. That's what we're saying here is
• 1:05:40
  Aaron Boone should be winning, except there's a problem.
• 1:05:43
  And it's not the run differential that Michael K was
• 1:05:46
  pointing to, because I would say that's too rudimentary of a
• 1:05:48
  stat. We talked about it last week,
• 1:05:50
  Speedy. It's the lack of being clutch.
• 1:05:52
  It's the lack of coming up when the game is on the line and
• 1:05:56
  actually doing the right thing. And I always thought that good
• 1:05:59
  teams come through when it matters and and the Yankees
• 1:06:03
  haven't done that under Boone, except for a couple of guys you
• 1:06:06
  mentioned them, Judge, obviously having a Hall of Fame, you know,
• 1:06:09
  type of career. If you can do this for another
• 1:06:11
  couple of years, you could do that in short order.
• 1:06:14
  But there's other guys just not stepping up when they need to.
• 1:06:16
  And it's not just the the hitting, it's the pitching as
• 1:06:19
  well. It's the go ahead speed.
• 1:06:22
  I was going to say I was going to go back to the story that
• 1:06:24
  broke in 2023 or so, right after the trade deadline where a lot
• 1:06:27
  of people were criticizing the Yankees analytics department.
• 1:06:30
  And some of that has to do with the prospect development.
• 1:06:32
  I think a lot of why a lot of these, the prospects either got
• 1:06:34
  hurt, got rushed up or the other way around where they get
• 1:06:37
  stashed in the minor leagues too long and they either getting
• 1:06:39
  hurt there or end up losing a lot of value too.
• 1:06:42
  And Brian Cashman actually got a lot of the scrutiny for it for
• 1:06:45
  like either not changing them or not evolving with some of the
• 1:06:48
  new concepts in baseball post the lockout era.
• 1:06:51
  And I think that's where a lot of these young players have not
• 1:06:53
  come to fruition. We were talking about a couple
• 1:06:55
  months ago with Dominguez. Should they trade him?
• 1:06:57
  Should they keep him? Now?
• 1:06:58
  He started to hit a little better, but the defense really
• 1:07:00
  hasn't gotten there. And then like I was talking
• 1:07:02
  about last week with Volpe, with when Josh Towers was on the
• 1:07:04
  show, he fell off a Cliff badly. And now you're questioning if
• 1:07:07
  the Yankees are even going to get any value if they they're
• 1:07:09
  going to be sucking on him this year.
• 1:07:11
  And then maybe you have to trade him in the offseason.
• 1:07:14
  It it's it's interesting. It is interesting when you look
• 1:07:17
  at obviously where the Yankees are and where the Yankees could
• 1:07:21
  be after the All Star break. But I don't think the Yankees
• 1:07:25
  should quit on Aaron Boone. I think they got to give him a
• 1:07:28
  chance to finish the season and see where everything lies.
• 1:07:31
  The Yankees don't fire managers in the middle of a season.
• 1:07:34
  I've never seen a Yankee manager get fired in the middle of the
• 1:07:38
  season. Not.
• 1:07:38
  In how long was? How long was his extension?
• 1:07:41
  Three years, I think it was. Three, yeah, three years.
• 1:07:44
  They did that right away as everyone was like.
• 1:07:47
  Because a lot of people. Weren't you had a better
• 1:07:48
  manager, they would have put performed better in the World
• 1:07:51
  Series. And I still think that might be
• 1:07:53
  true. But at the same time, how do you
• 1:07:55
  get rid of someone? Well, the Yankees did that with
• 1:07:57
  Girardi the year they fell short to the cheating Astros in 2017.
• 1:08:02
  And then they that's when they went to Boone in the 1st place.
• 1:08:04
  So there's precedent for going really far in the playoffs.
• 1:08:07
  I mean, we saw it in basketball with the Knicks getting rid of
• 1:08:10
  Thibodeau in the Eastern Conference finals.
• 1:08:11
  You don't have to have a bad season to get fired.
• 1:08:14
  I don't know if Boone, if he can't turn this around, if they
• 1:08:18
  just say, you know, whatever, the Yankees will take the two
• 1:08:20
  years hit on your salary. But we need a new voice in there
• 1:08:23
  because I'm starting to get real worried that they can't compete
• 1:08:26
  with teams that I thought they were better than.
• 1:08:28
  I thought they were better than the Blue Jays.
• 1:08:29
  I thought that they're better than the Tampa Bay Rays, or at
• 1:08:32
  least on the level. And they're not playing as good
• 1:08:34
  as those two teams right now. And that's, it's very worrisome
• 1:08:36
  because I don't think those two are even the best teams in the
• 1:08:39
  A. Li think it's early.
• 1:08:40
  I know everybody wants to say that.
• 1:08:42
  It's it's still early. How many games are we in?
• 1:08:44
  What are we in 80 games? Wait a little bit.
• 1:08:46
  No, we're past that. It's like 80. 8 I don't know,
• 1:08:48
  give me give me the game. So 88 games speedy, give me the.
• 1:08:51
  Over the halfway. Mark All right, so.
• 1:08:53
  We're it's exactly 90. Right now, all right, so we have
• 1:08:55
  90 games and there's 162 games in a season, so that means
• 1:08:58
  there's 70 games left. There's a lot of baseball left,
• 1:09:01
  so I'm not going to quote anybody saying that the Yankees
• 1:09:05
  are out. They're not going to win the
• 1:09:06
  division. I still think the Yankees are
• 1:09:08
  going to win the American League East.
• 1:09:10
  They're the best team in the American League East.
• 1:09:12
  They haven't played that way in the month of June.
• 1:09:14
  They've been horrible in the month of June, but I think
• 1:09:16
  eventually when the bats start to figure things out, the lineup
• 1:09:19
  starts to figure things out. I think that lineup is quite
• 1:09:23
  better than it was last year. Even with Juan Soto, Bellinger
• 1:09:27
  has not hit yet. I haven't seen Bellinger even
• 1:09:29
  get hot. I think he was on a 17 game
• 1:09:31
  hitting streak and then after that he wasn't the same player.
• 1:09:34
  Hasn't been the same since that. So the questions will lie about
• 1:09:38
  where the the opportunity is at the trade down line where the
• 1:09:42
  Yankees can add another bat. And I think the Yankees will.
• 1:09:45
  Maybe. Two bats, yeah, they it's
• 1:09:47
  interesting because they have seven guys with with 10 or more
• 1:09:49
  home runs. Obviously judges 33, which
• 1:09:51
  double S the amount of the next guy.
• 1:09:52
  But it's it's all in phases like you're saying Trent Grisham had
• 1:09:54
  his hot month and a half to start the year, 16 home runs,
• 1:09:57
  but that's really all the bulk of his offense.
• 1:09:59
  Ben rights has been kind of up and down.
• 1:10:00
  Bellinger it's really all in that stretch of the hit streak
• 1:10:03
  and Volpe had a good first month with the torpedo bats.
• 1:10:06
  Since then he's been a mess. So you can't have that kind of
• 1:10:09
  consistent offense unless there's somebody else picking it
• 1:10:11
  up and there just hasn't been enough consistency.
• 1:10:13
  Like you said, Goldschmid, his really, his splits are really
• 1:10:17
  drastic. It's like double the OPS to to
• 1:10:20
  righties or lefties to righties. It's it's not good.
• 1:10:23
  They they knew that they weren't getting a star player when they
• 1:10:27
  they signed him. They were hoping for what they
• 1:10:29
  got at the beginning of the season.
• 1:10:30
  It's not going to last. This is what he was always going
• 1:10:33
  to be. It's fine.
• 1:10:34
  And if they can get good pitting out of rice from the left side
• 1:10:37
  of the plate and Goldie from the right side of the place plate,
• 1:10:39
  you can piece together first base.
• 1:10:40
  That's better than what they've had there in the past.
• 1:10:42
  I'm not worried about that. I'm worried.
• 1:10:44
  The fact that Jazz plays third base when he's a second baseman
• 1:10:48
  and they have a shortstop, that's one of the worst starting
• 1:10:51
  shortstop in shortstops in baseball right now.
• 1:10:54
  And I guess DJ Lemahieu is our starting third baseman who
• 1:10:58
  really shouldn't be starting anywhere in Major League
• 1:11:00
  Baseball right now either. That's the big problem.
• 1:11:02
  They have two guys that are just hole 2 positions on the left
• 1:11:05
  side of the infield. Complete holes on this team.
• 1:11:09
  Well, Volping, not even only defensively, but offensively,
• 1:11:12
  he's left over 150 runners on base.
• 1:11:14
  That's only second to the casting honors from the
• 1:11:16
  Phillies. So it's not that he's just
• 1:11:18
  costing them the glove, he's just not getting it done at the
• 1:11:21
  plate either. So Jabba, this is something that
• 1:11:24
  I always think about because this is not one of the stats and
• 1:11:27
  I always like what are some things that I wouldn't know
• 1:11:29
  unless I played. I don't feel like Volpe has
• 1:11:32
  competitive at bats. And I think that's something
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  that I hear more of in analysis today.
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  And I think as a pitcher, you know, you you would be able to
• 1:11:41
  say like, is this guy, if I just throw a couple of pitches to
• 1:11:44
  him, this guy's going to put himself in a hole and then it's
• 1:11:46
  going to be an easy at bat for me.
• 1:11:47
  I'll throw him some junk and he'll swing through it.
• 1:11:49
  And that's that's fun. This is the way I can save some
• 1:11:52
  pitches. I know this guy is going to
• 1:11:54
  either ground this one right into the ground.
• 1:11:56
  If I throw this change up, he's just going to swing right over
• 1:11:58
  the top of it, you know, or what or slider, whatever it was.
• 1:12:02
  Do you see that with the Yankees?
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  Because I feel like outside of Judge, outside of Bellinger,
• 1:12:06
  when he's going well, I don't like the at bats man.
• 1:12:11
  I don't. Yeah, it's it just, I think
• 1:12:16
  there's, there's a lot of, I guess we call them, you know,
• 1:12:19
  from the pitching side, NCPS and non competitive pitch.
• 1:12:23
  But there's some at bats where like, and I don't know if this
• 1:12:26
  is just me, but I, I feel like I watch a lot of their games.
• 1:12:30
  Like it just looks like, I wouldn't say deer in the
• 1:12:32
  headlights, but sometimes when he goes to the plate, it looks
• 1:12:35
  like he's already beat. Like, I don't know if it's a
• 1:12:38
  like just the exuding confidence or, or what have you, but it
• 1:12:41
  just, it really like sometimes when he goes up and and I that
• 1:12:45
  may be my own in my own Dome because I realize and I see the
• 1:12:49
  numbers of how many guys he's left on base and where
• 1:12:54
  sometimes, you know, and it's so hard not to know anymore because
• 1:12:59
  everything is so analytical and you have literally a Dang iPad
• 1:13:03
  as soon as you're at bats over. So you get to see your last 10
• 1:13:06
  at bats, how hard, you know, whatever that case may be.
• 1:13:10
  So I think it's a little bit harder to get away from it now
• 1:13:13
  to get out of that funk where, you know, back in the day, it
• 1:13:16
  was like you had to go searching to sit in the video room and to
• 1:13:21
  be like, OK, I need I want to get see all my right-handed, you
• 1:13:24
  know, guys that I face against left-handed, see my split.
• 1:13:27
  So you you had to make an effort to go where some people it's
• 1:13:31
  like, OK, I just want to get away from and I got it.
• 1:13:34
  You know, it's like they say you miss 103 pointers, you shoot 100
• 1:13:38
  more. You're going to figure it out at
• 1:13:39
  some point. But I think it just it gets so
• 1:13:41
  hard now with the access that you have that's ready available.
• 1:13:46
  I mean, literally you can't walk in there and not see it or it
• 1:13:49
  being talked about because it it's on everywhere.
• 1:13:52
  So it's just, it does feel like sometimes he goes up and it's
• 1:13:56
  just it's it's already an out and it's not going to be a
• 1:13:59
  competitive at bat. And it's try to swing early.
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  So he doesn't get, you know, beat and in counts like that
• 1:14:06
  where, you know, it's kind of the exact opposite of Soto.
• 1:14:08
  Yeah, he's not going to hit you 300, but he's probably going to
• 1:14:12
  have more walks than he is strikeouts.
• 1:14:14
  And he's going to give you he he on averages sees almost 5
• 1:14:17
  pitches in that bat. You loved that when you saw Soto
• 1:14:20
  as a Yankee was just you had so such competitive bats to the way
• 1:14:24
  that his he would stare the pitcher down to just added some
• 1:14:27
  some energy to it. I I really, I'm getting a little
• 1:14:31
  distracted. I know what's going on in the
• 1:14:32
  studio. I was like.
• 1:14:33
  What's he doing? Getting a little wild over
• 1:14:35
  there, but I, I just don't see the at bats being very good.
• 1:14:38
  And I think that comes from a mindset and that comes from
• 1:14:42
  leadership. I think a better manager would
• 1:14:44
  kind of reach some of these guys that are younger that are not
• 1:14:47
  doing those things. Luckily for the Yankees, they do
• 1:14:50
  have a couple of former MVPS in this lineup, such as Goldschmidt
• 1:14:55
  that can come through in the clutch for them.
• 1:14:56
  I don't I. Hope later on.
• 1:14:58
  I don't think the MVP mean anything.
• 1:15:00
  I think they just. Need.
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  Well, here's what it means. Take a look at this picture of
• 1:15:03
  this video I got Zach to put up of former NLM VP Cody Bellinger
• 1:15:08
  making one of the. This is the only reason the
• 1:15:10
  Yankees won one of these games in the last week.
• 1:15:13
  He makes a shoestring catch and on the run nails Lindor going
• 1:15:18
  back to first. Not just any runner.
• 1:15:20
  Who's Lindor? So it's not like it was a bad
• 1:15:22
  base runner. This is just as good of a play
• 1:15:25
  that you can make in left field that you can't make it but.
• 1:15:27
  The Yankees didn't bring him only for his arm.
• 1:15:29
  They brought him for his offense.
• 1:15:31
  And and that's the problem right now.
• 1:15:32
  He's not providing the offense. They they they obviously need
• 1:15:36
  and, and, and the Yankees have problems in the middle of this
• 1:15:39
  has been a problem for the Yankees for years.
• 1:15:41
  And I'm going to go back to it is they they have one guy that
• 1:15:44
  can hit or two guys that can hit.
• 1:15:46
  Last year was Juan Soto and Aaron Judge.
• 1:15:48
  And then Giancarlo Stan showed up to the playoffs like he
• 1:15:51
  always does and and smashes the ball.
• 1:15:53
  The Yankees lineup is just hot and cold.
• 1:15:56
  Hot and cold. It's never hot.
• 1:15:58
  And look what the Dodgers did against the Yankees in the World
• 1:16:01
  Series. They got hot.
• 1:16:03
  Besides Ohtani, that whole lineup was hot.
• 1:16:05
  Ohtani didn't hit really in the World Series, but he hit
• 1:16:08
  throughout the playoffs. And everybody else, Friedman
• 1:16:11
  bets. Everybody was hitting in the
• 1:16:14
  World Series but Otani, and that says a lot.
• 1:16:17
  The Yankees were so worried about Otani, they weren't
• 1:16:19
  worried about the other guys like Edmund and all the other
• 1:16:21
  guys. And you're.
• 1:16:22
  Still walking a. Lot, too.
• 1:16:23
  Yeah. So I that's, that's why the
• 1:16:26
  Yankees are never going to win a World Series until they find the
• 1:16:28
  right guys and the right mix of guys that are going to fit in
• 1:16:32
  with Aaron Judge. They thought Bellinger was going
• 1:16:34
  to do it. Goldschmidt is good.
• 1:16:35
  He's everything that the Yankees wanted him to be after coming
• 1:16:39
  from, you know, the bad season last year wasn't the same
• 1:16:42
  hitter. This guy three years ago was an
• 1:16:44
  an MVP. He's obviously getting a little
• 1:16:47
  bit there, a little bit older. Look what Nolan Arenado is doing
• 1:16:50
  right now over there in Saint Louis I Nolan Arenado could be
• 1:16:54
  available at the trade deadline. Do the Yankees make a move for
• 1:16:57
  him, Bring them to that roster, put them at their base, which
• 1:16:59
  the Yankees have had problems defensively over there.
• 1:17:01
  So the Yankees are going to have to look and be a little bit
• 1:17:05
  smarter. Don't trade away the big pieces,
• 1:17:07
  the big, you know, franchise players that they have in their
• 1:17:10
  farm system. And if they think Dominguez is a
• 1:17:12
  piece that they can move, is that they can add another big
• 1:17:14
  bat to that lineup. Maybe that's where the Yankees
• 1:17:17
  go trading Jason Demigas. And it's also, it's also tough
• 1:17:20
  because you also look at the positions of the Yankees really
• 1:17:22
  need badly. A lot of the ones it's like we
• 1:17:24
  discussed Fish, like second base is a big weakness just across
• 1:17:27
  the league this year. Like they need, if they need
• 1:17:29
  that, if they want to go to Chisholm, the third or a third
• 1:17:31
  baseman that could be available. Is that going to be realistic?
• 1:17:34
  Same thing with relievers. They're very fluky if they want
• 1:17:36
  to go for more bullpen depth, too.
• 1:17:37
  So they need it in some kind of combination that maybe is a
• 1:17:40
  little more creative, but it comes to show what Brian Cashman
• 1:17:43
  has been criticized for. Like sometimes he settles for
• 1:17:45
  the second third tier moves and maybe it isn't enough even if
• 1:17:48
  he's making the good moves. We've seen Cashman do that like
• 1:17:52
  $0.10, like, oh, I'll get 3 guys instead of the one guy I should
• 1:17:56
  have got. And then the three guys are like
• 1:17:58
  Jacoby Ellsbury and Carl Pavano types.
• 1:18:01
  And the thing with Cashman, that and Jabba, we're going to let
• 1:18:05
  you take the ball and run with this in a second.
• 1:18:07
  But Cashman, I feel like he's gotten lucky a bunch of times
• 1:18:12
  and he's one of those guys who thought who was lucky and
• 1:18:14
  thought it was because he was good.
• 1:18:16
  And I think he's made a bunch of good choices.
• 1:18:19
  He's been solid, but he hasn't been a spectacular general
• 1:18:22
  manager. He's had many misses.
• 1:18:24
  He just has a lot more resources than most guys and it seems like
• 1:18:28
  job job security forever, like they're just going to keep him
• 1:18:31
  forever. He's been in the job since 96.
• 1:18:34
  I'm pretty sure it's 96 when he took over for stick Michael and
• 1:18:38
  how how how many guys keep a job that long in baseball?
• 1:18:41
  He's got to be by far the long tenure longest tenured guy.
• 1:18:45
  He's in 98. So I guess from Michael, but
• 1:18:48
  Michael what he was really doing most of the work for Michael, he
• 1:18:51
  was his number two guy even before that, right.
• 1:18:53
  So Cashman has been around for a long time.
• 1:18:56
  He's got a lot of hits. He's got a lot of misses on his
• 1:18:58
  resume. I would say they're around the
• 1:19:00
  same amount. But Jabba, I think you could
• 1:19:03
  kind of a little bit more intimately tell us about, you
• 1:19:05
  know, maybe a little bit how overrated Cashman might be here.
• 1:19:09
  Yeah, see, it's, I mean, we we kind of saw kind of what
• 1:19:12
  happened today where usually it's they kind of go hand in
• 1:19:15
  hand with the manager and AGM and and in certain because there
• 1:19:19
  there ends up being a fall guy somehow they're always like,
• 1:19:22
  well, we're not going to make a change unless we're not making
• 1:19:24
  money. They're always going to make
• 1:19:26
  money. Even if they lose 100 games, the
• 1:19:27
  Yankees would still make money that that's neither that's
• 1:19:31
  unrealistic for them to even like people to say that it's
• 1:19:33
  like, well, if they don't make any money, they got to get rid
• 1:19:36
  of them. Well, they're not.
• 1:19:37
  They're always going to make money.
• 1:19:38
  And I found something interesting that you were saying
• 1:19:41
  Fish is like talking about a leader.
• 1:19:42
  And and it was it was really interesting to hear from, you
• 1:19:46
  know, somebody of this caliber. So Ken Rosenthal was on fell
• 1:19:49
  territory today and literally he was like, there's no managers
• 1:19:53
  this day and age that will hold their players accountable.
• 1:19:57
  He's like it just doesn't exist anymore and for somebody to come
• 1:20:01
  out and say that of of Ken and and how affected in the game he
• 1:20:04
  is, I think he's 100% right because he the one the one that
• 1:20:09
  he did name and hopefully and he gets better and and healthier is
• 1:20:15
  is a dear friend and Ron Washington.
• 1:20:17
  We wish all him the best and and what he's going through, but
• 1:20:20
  that was the only one that Ken could even like even think of
• 1:20:23
  and for somebody to be around the game that long and, and to.
• 1:20:28
  You know, throw that out there that it it has legs because I
• 1:20:32
  was having this conversation with a buddy about some other
• 1:20:35
  stuff. We were just talking about, you
• 1:20:37
  know, the game and whatever. And it's like, OK, I get like he
• 1:20:42
  sticks up for him. But I do you think some of that
• 1:20:46
  is, I won't say fake, but is like forced upon like because I
• 1:20:51
  get it, like we're all savages in the box and like it's it's
• 1:20:54
  entertainment. But I think a little bit is I
• 1:20:57
  think, you know, yeah, cool. Like we're trying get tossed to,
• 1:21:01
  you know, create a rally. We we've seen that before, but
• 1:21:04
  some of the stuff that he has is just like, all right, man, we
• 1:21:07
  get it, like you hate him, but we.
• 1:21:09
  All know you hate him and you're going to throw him under the
• 1:21:11
  box, No? No, I'm just talking about
• 1:21:13
  Boone. He's talking about Boone.
• 1:21:14
  I'm talking about Boone. That's fine.
• 1:21:16
  But I know you hate Brian Cashman and I and by the by the
• 1:21:19
  way, you, you mentioned Michaels, but the architect of
• 1:21:22
  those 90s, early 90s Yankees was Bob Watson.
• 1:21:25
  OK, everybody I've mentioned Watson because I always mention
• 1:21:28
  Watson. People forget that Bob Watson
• 1:21:31
  was the architect. Who do you think hired Brian
• 1:21:33
  Cashman as his sister in GM? It was Bob Watson.
• 1:21:37
  That was the one that hired Brian Cashman.
• 1:21:39
  I don't think you guys remember Bob.
• 1:21:41
  And I always mention Watson. Watson.
• 1:21:42
  You're probably saying who the hell is Watson?
• 1:21:44
  Go look. He is the architect of the early
• 1:21:48
  90s Yankees teams. He was the one that hired Brian
• 1:21:52
  Cashman as a as a assistant GM and a guy that worked as an
• 1:21:57
  executive for the Yankees front office.
• 1:21:59
  So I know everybody's sitting here.
• 1:22:02
  Says here Watson was the GM for the Yankees in the right after
• 1:22:07
  the strike, so they hired him. After the strike 95 architect of
• 1:22:11
  those. And he left before 97, so I
• 1:22:15
  before 98 season. So he was there for the 9596?
• 1:22:19
  He said he was the architect of the of the Yankees when the
• 1:22:22
  Yankees won their first World Series in 1990. 6 I would say
• 1:22:25
  stick Michael drafted all those guys, but I.
• 1:22:27
  First of all, Stick Michaels was the one that was the he was like
• 1:22:31
  the scout. He was the lead scout for the
• 1:22:33
  Yankees. He was the one that obviously
• 1:22:35
  wanted Derek Jeter. He was the one that wanted
• 1:22:37
  Bernie Williams. He was a scout.
• 1:22:38
  He was really the scout. He wasn't really the GM, the GM,
• 1:22:42
  the architect tech of those 90s Yankees was Bob Watson.
• 1:22:45
  And and I think Yankee fans don't know that and they forget
• 1:22:48
  about what Bob Watson did for the Yankees organization when
• 1:22:51
  the Yankees brought him in. So Fish, how old were you when
• 1:22:54
  Bob Watson was the the GM for the New York Yankees?
• 1:22:57
  I don't even think you remember him because you were a baby.
• 1:22:59
  So you were only four years older than me.
• 1:23:02
  All right, What are you talking about?
• 1:23:04
  What are you talking about? How old were you when Bob
• 1:23:06
  Watson? Was GI Joes.
• 1:23:07
  How old? How old?
• 1:23:08
  Were you? I was 10.
• 1:23:09
  You were. 14 All right. And I was, and I as a Yankee, I
• 1:23:13
  remember Bob Watson and a lot of people.
• 1:23:15
  Was at the 96 parade. A lot of people saw him.
• 1:23:18
  A lot of people don't know that they always give Michaels all
• 1:23:22
  the credit in the world. But Bob Watson was the architect
• 1:23:25
  of the 96 Yankees. He was the back end.
• 1:23:28
  He was the backbone of those Yankee teams early when the
• 1:23:31
  Yankees started win in 9697. He just doesn't get the credit.
• 1:23:35
  So unfortunately that's been a problem for the Yankee fans
• 1:23:38
  because the Yankee fans always give Michaels all the credit in
• 1:23:40
  the world because he's the one who drafted Derek Jeter.
• 1:23:43
  So I, I, I'm not saying Michaels wasn't a great obviously scout.
• 1:23:46
  He was one of the best, you know, baseball minds we've seen.
• 1:23:49
  And for the Yankees organization, he's one of those
• 1:23:51
  guys that you'll always remember.
• 1:23:53
  But I, you got to, you got to give Bob Watson a little bit of
• 1:23:56
  credit, which Yankee fans don't do.
• 1:23:58
  So I, I always stick up for Watson.
• 1:24:00
  That's why I always mention and everybody says, who's Watson?
• 1:24:03
  Who's Watson? And that shows you how much
• 1:24:06
  you're a Yankee fan, Yankee fans.
• 1:24:07
  So if you don't know who Bob Watson is, shame on you.
• 1:24:10
  So, so like I, it's, I just was looking, had the story about
• 1:24:13
  Stick Michael. So Stick Michael was the GM
• 1:24:16
  version of Billy Martin. He kept firing him from being
• 1:24:19
  GM, but he was basically the GM. It was, he was like there for a
• 1:24:24
  long time and they kept firing him and rehiring the different
• 1:24:26
  roles. He was the GM for a second time
• 1:24:29
  in 1990. George George did that to
• 1:24:31
  everybody. He would literally fire you
• 1:24:33
  because he'd be pissed. They would come back the next
• 1:24:35
  day. So he would.
• 1:24:37
  It was like that Seinfeld episode where like he walks into
• 1:24:40
  Steinbrenner's office and like quits and then this shows up the
• 1:24:43
  next day. Yep.
• 1:24:44
  Like I think that was actually based on a stick Michael thing.
• 1:24:48
  So I I I don't know if that's 100% true, but I do.
• 1:24:50
  Know it is. There's something to it.
• 1:24:52
  I know Larry David, Allegedly that's a Lorne Michaels at
• 1:24:55
  Saturday Night Live. He knew George, he knew George.
• 1:24:57
  So but we gotta, we gotta go. We have our guest waiting.
• 1:25:00
  We do have our golf clap of the day.
• 1:25:04
  This deserves a golf clap. No doubt.
• 1:25:07
  Golf clap. Golf clap.
• 1:25:10
  Our Golf Club of the day, I don't know if anybody's paying
• 1:25:12
  attention to Wimbledon. Wimbledon's going on.
• 1:25:15
  It's always a big sport, you know, a big time for tennis in
• 1:25:19
  the summertime in England and it.
• 1:25:21
  And one guy that I think everybody should be talking
• 1:25:24
  about is Djokovic, who's trying to catch the one and only Roger
• 1:25:28
  Federer. It is not often that Djokovic,
• 1:25:31
  who has won 43 of of his past 45 matches at Wimbledon, he's made
• 1:25:37
  to endure such a stern test of mental resistance on the stage
• 1:25:43
  of dominance over the years. The sixth seed is through to the
• 1:25:48
  16th Wimbledon quarterfinals, second only to the 18 achieved
• 1:25:54
  by Federer. But at times it is felt as
• 1:25:57
  though his progress was under threat and and by the way,
• 1:26:02
  Djokovic right now was hammered by double fault over in his last
• 1:26:07
  match, but still moving on to the round of 16.
• 1:26:10
  Djokovic is the best tennis player of all time.
• 1:26:13
  I don't think you can argue that anymore.
• 1:26:15
  Roger Federer was getting all the credit in the world.
• 1:26:17
  We remember in the 90s when I was watching Pete Sampras and
• 1:26:20
  and Andre Agassi and Wimbledon, those those were the time where
• 1:26:22
  you got Boris Becker. But what Djokovic has done over
• 1:26:27
  the last 10 years of tennis and you got Rafael Nadal, you have
• 1:26:31
  Roger Federer, some of the best tennis players of all time.
• 1:26:34
  And people forget that Djokovic has been the best 1 and
• 1:26:38
  consistent one out of all of them and still playing at the
• 1:26:41
  top of his game as a six seed and and right now moving on in
• 1:26:44
  the round of 16 could win his. I don't know what what is this
• 1:26:48
  is how many titles? 43 titles of 40 is 40.
• 1:26:53
  I I don't even know how many titles he's won at Wimbledon,
• 1:26:54
  but he's won a lot of them. OK, so he has a chance to win a
• 1:26:59
  significant amount of Wimbledon Championships.
• 1:27:01
  And I, I wanted to, I wanted to go somewhere else with football,
• 1:27:04
  but this is even bigger and better.
• 1:27:07
  I'm not. I'm not watching. 7 Wimbledon.
• 1:27:09
  He's got. 7 Wimbledon's How many Championships does he have?
• 1:27:12
  How many does how many just choke of the chaff?
• 1:27:14
  So this 7 Federer is 8 at Wimbledon.
• 1:27:17
  Yeah, he's going to tie him because I think he's going to
• 1:27:18
  win this year. He's got 24 grand.
• 1:27:21
  Slams 24 grand Slams which he passed Roger Federer recently?
• 1:27:24
  Yes, he did. So if Djokovic wins this year,
• 1:27:28
  that will be tied 8th. Which Wimbledon was Roger
• 1:27:31
  Federer's best tournament but best championship.
• 1:27:34
  If he ties Roger Federer, not only is he's the greatest, he is
• 1:27:37
  the greatest tennis player of all time.
• 1:27:39
  You can argue there is nobody, not even Roger Federer that kind
• 1:27:42
  of is going to come close to this guy.
• 1:27:43
  This guy is still at the top of this game.
• 1:27:45
  This guy is still one of the best tennis players in the world
• 1:27:48
  and he's doing it, by the way, staying healthy year in and year
• 1:27:51
  out. How many times have you seen
• 1:27:53
  Djokovic hurt? Have you?
• 1:27:55
  How many times have you seen Djokovic not play in a
• 1:27:57
  tournament, not play in a championship?
• 1:27:59
  It's been incredible. It's been an incredible feat for
• 1:28:01
  one of the greatest athletes. Yes, you heard it from me, one
• 1:28:04
  of the greatest athletes of this generation of professional
• 1:28:08
  sports. It's an amazing feat and
• 1:28:10
  congratulations to Djokovic. Moving on, the round of 16 has.
• 1:28:13
  A chance to he has 27 because he has three double S titles.
• 1:28:17
  There you go there. You go.
• 1:28:18
  So I mean, it's, it's pretty, it's pretty incredible what
• 1:28:22
  Djokovic is doing right now. And he just stands for not only
• 1:28:26
  for something in his country, but when tennis is really not
• 1:28:30
  only a growing sport worldwide, but a growing sport in his
• 1:28:34
  country. And the biggest, and I, if I'm
• 1:28:36
  not mistaken, he's from Belarus, if I'm not mistaken.
• 1:28:39
  They believe he's also from Serbia.
• 1:28:40
  Yeah, Serbia, but he has a, his mother, I think is a Belarus
• 1:28:45
  who's descended, but he is from Serbia.
• 1:28:47
  He does play for Serbia. But it's congratulations to
• 1:28:51
  Djokovic for having such a great run of just dominant tennis
• 1:28:56
  play. And he's been unbelievable.
• 1:28:58
  So my golf clap of the day, I took it away from the Pittsburgh
• 1:29:01
  Steelers, who had something to say about Aaron Rodgers and what
• 1:29:04
  he said. I'm not even, I'm going to push
• 1:29:05
  that away. I wanted to go somewhere outside
• 1:29:07
  of the box because nobody would expect it.
• 1:29:10
  My golf clip of the day goes to Djokovic being so dominant over
• 1:29:14
  the years and being one of the most dominant athletes of this
• 1:29:18
  generation. So Golf Club hopefully wins
• 1:29:21
  Wimbledon. I would love to see him win
• 1:29:22
  Wimbledon. I don't.
• 1:29:23
  I used to watch Wimbledon all the way through.
• 1:29:27
  I haven't really watched the full Wimbledon in about 5 to 6
• 1:29:30
  years and in the 90s I watched every single Wimbledon because I
• 1:29:34
  grew up in Andre Agassi fan and my mom was a Pete Sampras fan.
• 1:29:38
  So I always rooted on Andre Agassi.
• 1:29:40
  By the way, Andre Agassi and and Steffi Groff's son is playing
• 1:29:45
  for Team Germany in the World Championships of baseball coming
• 1:29:49
  right up. So that'll be interesting.
• 1:29:51
  I'm interested to see. He is a pitcher and obviously is
• 1:29:55
  not he's not good enough to play for Team USA.
• 1:29:57
  That's that's for sure, but has a chance to play for Team
• 1:30:00
  Germany. So it's, it's be interesting his
• 1:30:02
  both both his parents are two of the best tennis players 1 Steffi
• 1:30:06
  Graf is probably one of the top three best women tennis players
• 1:30:09
  of all time. And his father was probably, you
• 1:30:12
  can argue one of the top three American born tennis players of
• 1:30:15
  all time. So my Golf Club goes to
• 1:30:17
  Djokovic. When we come back, ladies and
• 1:30:19
  gentlemen, it's not I've I'll say this, if you're a New York
• 1:30:23
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• 1:30:26
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• 1:30:30
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• 1:30:34
  Brown's hire and some of the acquisitions the the Knicks have
• 1:30:37
  just made so far this offseason. And Leon Rose hitting a home run
• 1:30:42
  or striking out with Mike Brown. When we come back, we'll get
• 1:30:45
  into that with the one and only Knicks NBATV contributor Ben
• 1:30:50
  Lyons. But first, our sports minute
• 1:30:52
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• 1:31:02
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• 1:31:05
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• 1:31:09
  ESPN is facing some backlash today after their reporting of
• 1:31:13
  former Chicago White Sox closer Bobby Jenks.
• 1:31:17
  Jenks, who passed away at 44 while in Portugal this past
• 1:31:21
  weekend, was referred to by ESPN as a member of the roster of
• 1:31:26
  their World Series winning team. Under selling the efforts of
• 1:31:29
  Jenks, who was the closer for the squad and had two saves in
• 1:31:33
  the World Series, including the clinching game, former players
• 1:31:36
  in baseball, social media personalities Doug Minkovich and
• 1:31:39
  Brandon McCarthy, amongst many others, blasted ESPN for the
• 1:31:43
  disrespect of the late Bobby Jenks.
• 1:31:45
  ESPN should be ashamed that in fact, for writing something like
• 1:31:48
  this was on the roster he was the closer on a championship
• 1:31:52
  winning team. Do some research before you
• 1:31:54
  release something. Have some respect.
• 1:31:57
  RIP Bobby Jenks condolences to his family and friends.
• 1:32:00
  As from Mckievich and Brandon McCarthy said this company has
• 1:32:03
  fallen so far. So far, Cowboys All Pro kick
• 1:32:09
  returner Cavante Turpin was arrested on 2 misdemeanor
• 1:32:13
  charges of gun possession and possession of marijuana, which
• 1:32:16
  is still a crime in Texas. Turpin was pulled over driving
• 1:32:19
  97 miles an hour in a 70 mile an hour speed limit in Allen, Texas
• 1:32:24
  on Saturday. Turpin, who signed a three-year,
• 1:32:26
  $18 million extension in March, led the NFL in kick return yards
• 1:32:30
  and had a kick return touchdown in the new kick off format last
• 1:32:33
  season. Turpin is also a wide receiver
• 1:32:35
  for the team and was the first Cowboy to get a punt return,
• 1:32:39
  kick return and receiving touchdown all in one season.
• 1:32:44
  Cowboys and 1st year head coach Brian Schottenheimer will hope
• 1:32:47
  Turpin keeps that speed on the field instead of on the road.
• 1:32:50
  Although the weed and guns might just be a Dallas Cowboys
• 1:32:52
  tradition and rite of passage. And Caitlin Clark missed her 5th
• 1:32:57
  consecutive game for the Indiana Fever on Saturday with an
• 1:33:00
  injured groin. Clark, who's an All Star
• 1:33:02
  captain, is voted on by the fans, has been in the news even
• 1:33:05
  when not playing for more fallout from the incident when
• 1:33:08
  she was hit in the eye and thrown into the ground.
• 1:33:11
  And it was in the media. Specifically, a question looking
• 1:33:13
  for an explanation on the incident by reporter Christine
• 1:33:16
  Brennan to the perpetrator Dionne Dejanne Carrington, has
• 1:33:21
  led to repeated back and forth in socials about what Carrington
• 1:33:24
  and how athletes, especially Brennan in the WNBA were being
• 1:33:28
  covered. She said that this is how she
• 1:33:31
  had to deal with it when she covered the NFL and Brennan is a
• 1:33:33
  veteran reporter. Apparently the Dejana Bonner
• 1:33:36
  incident where she left the Fever had something to do with
• 1:33:39
  Brennan as well. I think all of us like the
• 1:33:43
  Caitlin Clark playing stories better than these ridiculous not
• 1:33:47
  playing hot drama surrounding its stories.
• 1:33:50
  Apparently though there's a wide audience for them.
• 1:33:52
  In fact, furthering Brennan and others narratives is that Clark
• 1:33:55
  was only voted 9th at guard in the WNBA for the All Star game
• 1:34:00
  by the players despite the overwhelming fan support making
• 1:34:04
  her a captain as the top vote getter.
• 1:34:06
  Lots of hate. Hopefully Caitlin will get back
• 1:34:08
  on the court to silence it with her play as she has her own
• 1:34:11
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• 1:34:14
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  Bro that's so funny. Dude.
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  Just messaged me literally 3 days ago and that dude is still
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  right, wow, I know. I was like so random.
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  You brought that up 'cause that literally just happened.
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  Bobby Ojeda. Well, we love Bobby anyways.
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  I, I, we, we got to get it to the New York Knicks and the
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  Knicks saw the story right now and a lot of people were
• 1:39:13
  questioning the New York Knicks on why they didn't hire a coach
• 1:39:16
  before the draft and the Knicks went right into the draft.
• 1:39:19
  But obviously the Knicks really didn't do anything in the draft.
• 1:39:22
  They did add somebody add somebody at 50th, if I'm not
• 1:39:25
  mistaken. The what, what was he?
• 1:39:28
  African, African, French, French player.
• 1:39:30
  We'll see how he is. It's he's probably going to
• 1:39:32
  start in the G league. He's he's not going to start in
• 1:39:35
  the NBA, but they say he could be a good rebound, He could be
• 1:39:37
  defender. Why do you think Leon Rose
• 1:39:40
  waited so long to hire Mike Brown?
• 1:39:44
  You know, I'm still trying to figure out why they said goodbye
• 1:39:47
  to Tibbs in the 1st place. I'm trying to, you know, settle
• 1:39:50
  into that. But you know, I think you got to
• 1:39:52
  do your due diligence. You got to take meetings and
• 1:39:54
  this is the team that is looking for grown-ups and players that
• 1:39:58
  can contribute. Now the draft is not a super
• 1:40:01
  high priority focus. Let's be honest.
• 1:40:03
  It hasn't been for this organization historically.
• 1:40:05
  RJ Barrett was the first first round draft pick.
• 1:40:08
  They resigned in 30 plus years since Charlie War.
• 1:40:11
  They don't. They don't pay much attention to
• 1:40:13
  the draft, clearly. They signed Jordan Clarkson,
• 1:40:15
  he's 33, thought Rousseli's 29. So it's like the draft is what
• 1:40:19
  it is. They got 3 French guys now.
• 1:40:21
  You mentioned that MO, I think his name is Mohamed Diarra.
• 1:40:25
  He's got 3 French guys now. It's interesting considering
• 1:40:28
  we've seen this sort of French invasion in the NBA with when
• 1:40:30
  Benyama and Alex R and then winning the silver medal.
• 1:40:34
  So I'm with him and Mike Brown's a proven guy in the NBA.
• 1:40:37
  He's coached in the finals. Jordan Clarkson's played in the
• 1:40:39
  finals. Mike Brown's 150 playoff games.
• 1:40:42
  You know, Tibbs, I love a coach and and obviously you can
• 1:40:45
  nitpick them and the certain things that probably rug rub
• 1:40:48
  people in the organization the wrong way or just ran its course
• 1:40:51
  24 and 23 in the playoffs. But I don't know.
• 1:40:54
  Here we are man. And we're talking Knicks
• 1:40:55
  basketball in August and like July, and it's positive there is
• 1:40:59
  1/1. Matrix is.
• 1:41:00
  This, first of all, Mr. Mr. Lyons, the Knicks have been
• 1:41:04
  positive since really Leon Rose has gone to the organization.
• 1:41:07
  They've been a slam dunk. I mean, they made it.
• 1:41:10
  They made the move for Jaylen Bronson.
• 1:41:11
  They brought him to the organization.
• 1:41:13
  I mean, obviously they had to bring his father with him, but
• 1:41:15
  that that's a whole nother story.
• 1:41:17
  I mean, they brought in Tom Thibodeau, they they added
• 1:41:19
  additional guys like Josh Hart, they brought in Dante Divacento.
• 1:41:23
  Now Mikhail Bridges, they traded away their future for Mikhail
• 1:41:26
  Bridges. We'll see how that works.
• 1:41:28
  Carl Anthony Towns, I mean, everything that Leon Rose has
• 1:41:31
  touched so far has been successful.
• 1:41:34
  So him anybody that's taking shots at the Mike Brown, Mike
• 1:41:37
  Brownhire, I don't think you could take shots at it.
• 1:41:40
  The guy is a winning coach. There's only two other coaches
• 1:41:44
  that have been a record, a better record than he has over
• 1:41:46
  the last 10 years as a head coach.
• 1:41:48
  So there's there's no question the guy knows how to win.
• 1:41:51
  The question is, is he going to win a championship?
• 1:41:54
  He's been to a finals. He's failed to win a
• 1:41:57
  championship with a good team. So that is the question with
• 1:42:00
  Mike Brown. Can he do it in New York?
• 1:42:02
  Can he do it under pressure? Can he do it with these rowdy
• 1:42:05
  fans that obviously when you start to lose, they start
• 1:42:08
  stabbing you in the back with a knife, a gun or whatever the
• 1:42:11
  hell they have and maybe a pole or, you know, something else.
• 1:42:14
  I don't want to say I mean it. Was a magical few weeks.
• 1:42:17
  I don't know where you guys live or where you're you're based or
• 1:42:20
  how much of you know the spring you got to choose to be in the
• 1:42:23
  city to be in New York, but the vibes were amazing like it was
• 1:42:26
  the best six weeks of my life. I feel like and I don't want to
• 1:42:29
  experience it again because I was just an emotional mess.
• 1:42:32
  And now we're at this place where expectation and
• 1:42:35
  entitlement are starting to seep in and it's already starting to
• 1:42:38
  feel like that's the I'm like, I'm around your guys's age, like
• 1:42:42
  I've been through this, right? So it's amazing.
• 1:42:45
  You've got this Lord of the Flies generation that goes out
• 1:42:47
  on the 7th Ave. There he is, There's Captain
• 1:42:50
  Bush. God bless that Great American
• 1:42:52
  man. I love telling asking my Pistons
• 1:42:54
  friends. I like saying what's the 4th
• 1:42:56
  best performance in the history of Little Caesars Arena because
• 1:42:59
  the. Best.
• 1:43:00
  Is game the second best? Is game three and I'll give you
• 1:43:04
  the third best is game four. And they'll give me a variety of
• 1:43:06
  answers all the night. Kate had 32 against the Magic in
• 1:43:10
  January, or the night Giannis gave us 50 in March.
• 1:43:13
  But for instance, really special, man.
• 1:43:14
  So the time is now. It's a really special time in
• 1:43:16
  the city. So I want to enjoy it.
• 1:43:18
  I want to be present for it. I don't want to nitpick it and
• 1:43:20
  be like, why aren't they playing Kyler Kohler?
• 1:43:23
  If we go through the roster from last year, there's a lot of, as
• 1:43:26
  my dad would say, Schmen Drake's like God bless PJ Tucker turning
• 1:43:29
  40 and wearing Charles Oakley Player Edition shoes.
• 1:43:32
  They don't just take shots at Charles Oakley.
• 1:43:34
  That's my favorite. No, I think.
• 1:43:36
  PJ Tucker The Little. Subtle jazz.
• 1:43:38
  All right. I love him.
• 1:43:39
  Yeah. I I was about to listen.
• 1:43:41
  Well, come on. Delon Wright.
• 1:43:43
  Delon Wright letters of Chuya campaign.
• 1:43:45
  These are borderline guys in the league.
• 1:43:48
  And so the conversation of Tibbs didn't play the bench like I
• 1:43:51
  didn't need more campaign pull ups.
• 1:43:54
  Like that's not the recipe. They just didn't have the talent
• 1:43:56
  last year. Now you add Clarkson, a 6th man
• 1:43:58
  of the year in a bucket. I'm with it man.
• 1:44:01
  I'm ready. I'm I'm very excited.
• 1:44:03
  So you seem pretty passionate about wanting to keep Thibodeau.
• 1:44:05
  Like, what are the biggest, like disclaimers that people have had
• 1:44:08
  against him that you're like, this is not as big of a problem
• 1:44:11
  as it was originally out to be? I think people really don't
• 1:44:15
  understand just how hard it is to win every single night in the
• 1:44:20
  NBA. And some of his detractors will
• 1:44:22
  say, how come on a Tuesday versus Charlotte in March, he's
• 1:44:25
  not playing with the lineup and trying different combinations
• 1:44:29
  and they go down 12 early, Don't call a timeout.
• 1:44:32
  Let him play through it. Like using the games to kind of
• 1:44:35
  like tinker and stuff. Because in the playoffs come
• 1:44:38
  around, you're like, Oh my God, what do we do?
• 1:44:40
  Because Brunson and Cat can't defend together.
• 1:44:43
  But that's like, I don't know, that's rarefied air.
• 1:44:46
  That's Zen Master stuff like what he would do back with the
• 1:44:48
  Lakers and stuff like, I don't know, I think it's just hard to
• 1:44:51
  win 50 games. And you got to think about the
• 1:44:53
  fact that Mitchell Robinson was hurt for most of the year.
• 1:44:56
  So Cats playing out of position, Hart's really a bench guy who
• 1:45:00
  brings energy. They maxed him out.
• 1:45:03
  They maxed out Deuce McBride. They've maxed out like every guy
• 1:45:08
  on this team. So I don't know what tips get.
• 1:45:11
  I think we're a detractors. I agree with them is like
• 1:45:14
  they're up 24 with two minutes to go wise bridges on the floor.
• 1:45:18
  Like I like that kind of stuff. I was driving people nuts.
• 1:45:22
  I know, but you know, it's collaboration.
• 1:45:25
  It's a collaborative kind of generation of basketball minds
• 1:45:28
  and and and people want to feel a part of it.
• 1:45:30
  And he might have gotten a little too isolating and kind of
• 1:45:33
  me and my guys against the world and like not really bringing in
• 1:45:37
  the, the entire scope of the organization, but I don't know.
• 1:45:39
  We'll see. It's, it's a great run for him
• 1:45:42
  in that it's a dream job. And he he did something that I
• 1:45:45
  never thought I'd see in my lifetime.
• 1:45:46
  Like they're, they're really good.
• 1:45:48
  Like, they're really fun to watch and they're good.
• 1:45:52
  Then did you think too like we've we've talked about this
• 1:45:54
  and, and kind of across all sports, obviously we we see that
• 1:45:59
  you are passionate about tips. Do you think they're sometimes
• 1:46:02
  like there needs to be a change or do they just end up using the
• 1:46:07
  coach as the fall guy because they have to blame something?
• 1:46:10
  No, a little bit of both Java, I mean, I think you look at big
• 1:46:13
  business and that's what's professional sports are now.
• 1:46:16
  CE OS change, CE OS change, top executives are always changing
• 1:46:20
  jobs. People work at CAA, then they
• 1:46:22
  work at William Morris and they work at right.
• 1:46:23
  You kind of jump around. So but yes, there needs to be a
• 1:46:28
  scapegoat, but there was no problem.
• 1:46:29
  There was nothing to blame. Like what can we at least
• 1:46:32
  enjoyed it for like 2 weeks after that historic run that
• 1:46:35
  like took me back to my childhood, My English teachers
• 1:46:38
  texting me, I'm calling my dad in the middle of the day crying
• 1:46:42
  because I'm just like so elated. And we only get 48 hours to like
• 1:46:46
  sit in it and enjoy it. Like that was the kind of tough
• 1:46:48
  part about. It it's always Indiana, it's
• 1:46:51
  always Indiana that screws us. Indiana, that's a real robbery.
• 1:46:55
  I mean, you're solid, man. It's A and it's kind of cool how
• 1:46:58
  the two cities, let's be honest, like kind of take a different
• 1:47:01
  approach where the Knicks have big stars always and you know,
• 1:47:04
  Indiana's like this team kind of collaborative thing.
• 1:47:08
  It kind of fits the region. I don't know, I like the kind of
• 1:47:11
  small town market thing versus the the big evil city kids or
• 1:47:14
  whatever. That's Pat McAfee curses out
• 1:47:16
  Shallowmet. But let's see shape.
• 1:47:18
  Let's see Shallowmet, by the way, on a Tuesday in November
• 1:47:22
  against Charlotte at the Garden. Like can we get some of that?
• 1:47:25
  I don't want to hear, I don't want to hear Pat McAfee talk
• 1:47:28
  about basketball. Please stay with the football.
• 1:47:31
  I don't want to hear much I. Don't know, like Lee, like, come
• 1:47:34
  on, you know. Listen, I I got a personality.
• 1:47:36
  You have to listen to the show. There's a lot of crazy.
• 1:47:38
  Just job I got a question for you, man.
• 1:47:40
  When you when the Yankees had it humming in the city, like how
• 1:47:42
  did you as a player feel the energy in the city shift?
• 1:47:46
  Was it like talking to the guys in you know, the street
• 1:47:49
  construction guys, guys in the bar?
• 1:47:51
  Like how do you? The poor house crew.
• 1:47:53
  Like, how do you feel that the city's on fire as a player?
• 1:47:56
  It's there's like a, for people that don't like get it or like
• 1:48:02
  everybody's like New York's too much this another thing.
• 1:48:05
  It's different when you actually live there.
• 1:48:07
  Visiting is, is completely different.
• 1:48:09
  And so I think you just have a, you have a feel for the
• 1:48:11
  heartbeat, right? And what happens is you, you
• 1:48:15
  feel the buzz, like there's just something in the air that it
• 1:48:19
  just it, it doesn't, it makes me smile thinking about it.
• 1:48:24
  Along with it comes a lot of free stuff, which is even an
• 1:48:27
  added bonus. But it I think it's just, it's
• 1:48:32
  the buzz and the energy that is combated with with winning and
• 1:48:40
  and doing that. But just, yeah, you're walking
• 1:48:42
  down, you're getting honked at. Everybody's saying good luck, go
• 1:48:44
  get them. I think just the energy and the
• 1:48:48
  heartbeat of this city as it goes and when you feel it, it's
• 1:48:52
  truly is special. And you know, but as we all
• 1:48:56
  know, as much as they love you, they hate you just the same.
• 1:48:58
  You got to take the good with the bad, no?
• 1:48:59
  Oscar Hey, I was just in Madrid and I saw Evan Fournier playing
• 1:49:02
  for Olympiacos, so I gave him the business.
• 1:49:04
  Still you. Know now he's going to now he's
• 1:49:08
  moving to the soccer tone over here European football as the
• 1:49:13
  English would say but and have attacked us on social media
• 1:49:17
  saying don't call it soccer it's the European football you
• 1:49:20
  Americans but if we accumulate. All these French players, more
• 1:49:23
  often Evan Fournier, you'll get a one day contract.
• 1:49:26
  You dumb Americans. Are we going to see them all out
• 1:49:29
  at the MetLife on Wednesday when Mbappe and PSG and and Real
• 1:49:33
  Madrid come to town? I thought we should see the
• 1:49:35
  Knicks out there. We saw Deuce McBride lighting
• 1:49:37
  fireworks on July 4th. How wonderful.
• 1:49:39
  The MBA on it so. He so he blows his hands up like
• 1:49:42
  JPP did and then we have a guy that's playing with three
• 1:49:46
  fingers. Wonderful.
• 1:49:47
  Great job, Deuce. So I I have stay away from the
• 1:49:51
  fireworks. What is the sweater vest?
• 1:49:53
  July 4th and wasn't sweating I'm.
• 1:49:55
  Going to see Deuce McBride blinding up fireworks and
• 1:49:58
  blowing his hands OK it's very New York NY like as we've known
• 1:50:03
  over the past years of stupidity of some of former players that
• 1:50:09
  I'm not going to mention on this show that have been on this show
• 1:50:11
  before. So let's get into we have a lot
• 1:50:14
  more Nick conversation. We are talking to Nick's NBATV
• 1:50:17
  contributor Ben Lyons hit. This is the first time he's been
• 1:50:20
  on the show and we're very happy to have him.
• 1:50:22
  He's a great personality, does a lot right now with NBATV.
• 1:50:25
  You know, Nick, Ben, I there's a lot of of things with this Tom
• 1:50:30
  Thibodeau thing. You brought it up and there's a
• 1:50:31
  there's a lot of questions to the Knicks on how they handled
• 1:50:34
  this at the end of the season. But the one thing that was
• 1:50:37
  interesting when the season was over, there were stories coming
• 1:50:41
  out that the only two players that stuck up for Tom Thibodeau
• 1:50:45
  and wanted him still there is Josh Hart and Jaylen Brunson.
• 1:50:49
  Is there any truth to that? And who was the guy that really
• 1:50:53
  stemmed this to get him fired? Come on man, how do I know that
• 1:50:58
  I mean? There's more leaks in the side
• 1:51:00
  guy, I'd like to get it inside. Who knows?
• 1:51:03
  You know, Brunson obviously has a history and a relationship and
• 1:51:06
  his dad and. Of course.
• 1:51:08
  It's part of the 90s Knicks and all that.
• 1:51:10
  And, you know, Heart and and Brunson are forever connected as
• 1:51:13
  the roommates. But I mean, Mikhail Bridges was
• 1:51:17
  outspoken during the season about being frustrated with some
• 1:51:20
  of the playing minutes. And he had kind of, you know,
• 1:51:22
  said some stuff during a road trip that kind of alluded to
• 1:51:25
  some frustrations. But when the results are there,
• 1:51:28
  24 playoff wins for the team in four years, you know, can you
• 1:51:35
  judge Thibodeau on what the team has done historically?
• 1:51:39
  Like what happened with Samuel Dalambear and Michael Doliak and
• 1:51:42
  Clarence Witherspoon somehow matters like an O4O5O6, like the
• 1:51:47
  fact that they stunk back then but are good now.
• 1:51:50
  Does that give him a pass to stick around longer?
• 1:51:53
  How big was Doliak's head though?
• 1:51:55
  That dude had a cranium. Him and Chris Dudley, probably
• 1:51:58
  the biggest domes in in Nick in Nick's history.
• 1:52:01
  Yeah, man. Like, I feel like I feel like
• 1:52:03
  those teams were so bad that people couldn't even savor the
• 1:52:07
  fact that this team is finally good.
• 1:52:09
  And he deserves some, like, somewhat of a leash for for, you
• 1:52:14
  know, the way they were over the overachieving the playoffs and
• 1:52:17
  the fact they beat the defending champions and took the Pacers to
• 1:52:21
  six. I mean, Eastern Conference
• 1:52:23
  finals is kind of crazy. Ben, first of all, let's get
• 1:52:26
  honest here. Let's be honest, Let's get
• 1:52:29
  honest on this whole argument of Tom Thibodeau.
• 1:52:32
  I was a guy and I don't know, I wrote a story a year before they
• 1:52:36
  hired Tom Thibodeau. And Speedy will tell you I was
• 1:52:40
  the guy that said the Knicks should hire Tom Thibodeau.
• 1:52:42
  As soon as they brought Leon Rose in, I knew they were hiring
• 1:52:45
  Tom Thibodeau. But I also believe they kept Tom
• 1:52:47
  Thibodeau 2 years long. Then they should have.
• 1:52:51
  All right, I just don't think Tom Thibodeau is a winning
• 1:52:54
  coach. He's never won.
• 1:52:56
  He's never played it as a coach in the finals.
• 1:52:59
  That Chicago Bulls team fell short with the eat.
• 1:53:01
  They can never get over the hump.
• 1:53:03
  He's a great coach. He's a great regular season
• 1:53:05
  coach, but he wears out his players.
• 1:53:07
  He plays them too long and they're not the same players.
• 1:53:10
  Josh Hart. I don't care what Josh Hart says
• 1:53:12
  and I love you Josh. If you listen to the show, we
• 1:53:14
  love you. The the problem with Josh Hart
• 1:53:17
  is he doesn't want to tell the truth about the real story
• 1:53:20
  behind the season. And the real story is he was
• 1:53:22
  worn out too much. This guy is a great two way
• 1:53:25
  player. He's a great for the size.
• 1:53:28
  Maybe because they have no bench and he should be coming off the
• 1:53:30
  bench and he's playing because we didn't.
• 1:53:32
  Play. I mean, why don't you push your
• 1:53:34
  bench on, right? Well, come on.
• 1:53:35
  Tyler Kolek, you should have played him.
• 1:53:37
  I know you don't want to say that, but they should have
• 1:53:39
  played him. I don't understand.
• 1:53:41
  You got to see what you have. There, Tyler Kolek.
• 1:53:44
  Why is he on the bench then? Why is he on the roster?
• 1:53:47
  If you have these guys on the roster, you got to use them.
• 1:53:51
  That's that's what I'm saying. Ben, he doesn't use these guys.
• 1:53:54
  He doesn't, he doesn't use young players.
• 1:53:56
  There have been attacks with him when he was with the
• 1:53:58
  Timberwolves that he doesn't like to start younger players.
• 1:54:01
  He likes to keep those younger players on the bench to learn.
• 1:54:03
  And then by the time. He's a head coach in the NBA who
• 1:54:06
  likes playing star players. That's.
• 1:54:08
  Fine and it doesn't work like that.
• 1:54:10
  Wins in the NBA. Well, guess what?
• 1:54:13
  Guess what? Over the years, how many of
• 1:54:15
  those coaches actually win when they just play their star
• 1:54:18
  players? What do you mean?
• 1:54:20
  Look at all the current coaches in the league who have won NBA
• 1:54:23
  titles and it's been on the back.
• 1:54:24
  Spring won Steve Kerr. Does he not play younger
• 1:54:26
  players? He played Wiggins.
• 1:54:28
  He's a young player. He.
• 1:54:29
  Played When Steph Curry was out, they missed the playoffs.
• 1:54:32
  When Klay Thompson's out, they missed.
• 1:54:34
  The playoffs, of course he's their star, but but there's.
• 1:54:38
  Wiggins a #1. Draft.
• 1:54:40
  There are great coaches over the years and I know you're not
• 1:54:43
  going to think that Nurse was a good coach, but he played in
• 1:54:45
  Toronto. He played young guys you got to
• 1:54:48
  play, younger, you got to play they kept.
• 1:54:50
  Knocking on the door and it took the addition of Kawhi Leonard
• 1:54:53
  and. Marcus But you need stars to
• 1:54:55
  win. We know that.
• 1:54:56
  But you need you need a young roster to play.
• 1:54:59
  You can't just start these old guys and wear them out all
• 1:55:02
  season when they're playing 4546 minutes.
• 1:55:04
  Old on this. Team, I'm just saying in NBA in
• 1:55:08
  right now, if you look at the NBA, Carl Anthony Towns is what,
• 1:55:11
  30 years old? Is he 30?
• 1:55:13
  Might turn 30 in September. He is 30.
• 1:55:16
  He's 30. Considerably 30 years old is
• 1:55:20
  kind of old in the NBA now. It is.
• 1:55:22
  It's. That's no, that's grown up NBA
• 1:55:26
  this. Go time this when stop, you
• 1:55:28
  know. Come on.
• 1:55:30
  Come on. Benny.
• 1:55:32
  Benny. Does anybody call you Benny?
• 1:55:33
  Does your mom call you Benny? I've got Benji or Benny got in
• 1:55:38
  trouble with his Benjamin. Bassing with you.
• 1:55:40
  I'm bassing with you, Ben. Well.
• 1:55:42
  Carl, he tells me, let's give the big fellas some credit,
• 1:55:45
  right? He scored 20 points in the
• 1:55:47
  fourth quarter. When the season's on the line,
• 1:55:48
  they needed him most. He hit threes from, you know,
• 1:55:51
  Japan. It felt.
• 1:55:52
  Yeah, he. Chucks up 80 foot jumpers.
• 1:55:54
  That's great. Great fan.
• 1:55:55
  He got one in Detroit and then like gave him a ball pass the
• 1:55:58
  rest of the playoffs to do that. But he's all he's all NBA.
• 1:56:02
  He played 65 plus right and he's available.
• 1:56:05
  He played every bite in the playoffs.
• 1:56:07
  And so availability is the best ability.
• 1:56:10
  They're the best training staff in the league this year.
• 1:56:12
  They they are all we're all available and when the playoffs
• 1:56:15
  counted and Mitchell Robinson, who missed sex 65 plus Cat gets
• 1:56:20
  a lot of a lot of heat for the zesty stuff.
• 1:56:23
  But put that aside man, and the guy is one of the most skilled
• 1:56:25
  offensive players of our generation for.
• 1:56:28
  A bitches and moans. I don't want to see a guy go out
• 1:56:30
  there and cry to the referees. He failed me.
• 1:56:34
  Well, that's everybody nowadays though.
• 1:56:35
  Come on, that's that's what this AAU.
• 1:56:37
  Generation say I want to see Carl Anthony of Towns go out
• 1:56:40
  there and actually play some kind of like a defense, maybe
• 1:56:43
  just show up and actually stand there and play somewhat of a
• 1:56:47
  defensive game. Hey hit the glass.
• 1:56:49
  He re had like 14 rebounds a night.
• 1:56:51
  I mean, it got bored. Yeah, but what happened in the
• 1:56:53
  playoffs when he, when he played against Detroit and with
• 1:56:55
  Detroit, was punching a middle? In trouble?
• 1:56:57
  You're right, Detroit was punching a mill.
• 1:57:00
  They were doing that. Foul trouble was the storyline,
• 1:57:02
  and for Brunson too. I didn't expect Brunson to keep
• 1:57:05
  getting in foul trouble these playoff series.
• 1:57:07
  But but no, the Pistons are bigger, stronger, faster team.
• 1:57:11
  And the fact they were able to beat them and the way they beat
• 1:57:13
  them and then to come back the way they did against the
• 1:57:15
  Celtics, those games, it's all about the journey.
• 1:57:17
  Guys like Java, you know this like it's those, those big wins
• 1:57:21
  that you remember, you remember your family celebrating and you
• 1:57:24
  remember that. It's like if you win the World
• 1:57:26
  Series, you win the NBA title. Yes, obviously that is the goal,
• 1:57:30
  but it's not a failure. It's Nick.
• 1:57:32
  There are a lot of Knick fans who feel like this is a failure.
• 1:57:35
  What? Happened.
• 1:57:35
  It was a failure of a season. You should have made it to the
• 1:57:39
  Finals. I don't care what you say,
• 1:57:41
  Benny. I am getting mad now.
• 1:57:43
  Ben, I love you. You're on this show, Tyler.
• 1:57:46
  I am angry. Yes, I am tired.
• 1:57:49
  I'm tired of watching this garbage of a basketball team.
• 1:57:52
  I've watched it since the 90s when the the Knicks those mean
• 1:57:56
  St. Knicks with Oakley and Mason and
• 1:57:59
  Xavier McDaniel, yes even the Chicago Bulls brother in high
• 1:58:04
  school, Kiki Vanderwey. Remember those teams.
• 1:58:09
  I'm tired. I'm tired of watching this
• 1:58:11
  garbage. You had a chance.
• 1:58:12
  You played a better you're a better team than Indiana and you
• 1:58:16
  laid up lousy goose eggs against a team that you have more talent
• 1:58:21
  than it's. But it's to me that was the
• 1:58:23
  reason why he got fired. He didn't show up.
• 1:58:25
  The Knicks did not show up for the final.
• 1:58:27
  They. Went to the Eastern Conference
• 1:58:28
  final for the first time since you started shaving.
• 1:58:31
  Yeah, it's shaving. Please.
• 1:58:34
  I mean, it was 99 and I was, I was graduating from high school,
• 1:58:38
  so I was shaving baby, in many different areas.
• 1:58:40
  I'm not going to tell you, but please don't.
• 1:58:43
  Speedy hasn't shaved since he was born, so.
• 1:58:46
  I'm glad I should have you put on me.
• 1:58:48
  I had some like like the plumber Scruff going, but Jabba's got
• 1:58:53
  this here. That's like.
• 1:58:55
  That was a full protest vote of Brian Cashman says he left.
• 1:58:57
  He's got chickens. Living in his beard right now.
• 1:59:00
  No, this is this is Trim. No, when I went to Detroit,
• 1:59:05
  yeah, I didn't. I didn't give a damn.
• 1:59:07
  I just let it go. Detroit's awesome, man.
• 1:59:09
  For people who don't know, like I went to the University of
• 1:59:11
  Michigan. I do a lot.
• 1:59:12
  Yeah, I was. I was going to have to live a
• 1:59:13
  little talk on that on on your screen.
• 1:59:15
  I saw a Michigan hat of it you might have.
• 1:59:17
  To I know, I know you're from it's been it's been 2047 days,
• 1:59:22
  by the way, since that school in Ohio beat Michigan in a football
• 1:59:25
  game, but just right. I I love Detroit, man, you
• 1:59:30
  played there for a hot second. Like it's a cool town that's on
• 1:59:33
  the on the rise. And I don't know what was your
• 1:59:35
  experience like there like did? You.
• 1:59:36
  Oh, I, I, My first year I lived in Bloomfield Township right off
• 1:59:41
  Telegraph, and then second year I lived in Birmingham, which,
• 1:59:47
  which was cool. They were cool areas.
• 1:59:50
  Very lived right down the street from me.
• 1:59:53
  The dude, the dude's house that I got was literally like his
• 1:59:56
  family. Remember back in the day from
• 1:59:58
  the airports, The Sharper Image? Of course, yeah.
• 2:00:02
  That family. Stuff you like, almost wanted to
• 2:00:04
  buy. Yeah, that so they, they're from
• 2:00:08
  there. And it was, it was the son's
• 2:00:09
  house. He was actually moving to New
• 2:00:11
  York to start some like headphone company or whatever.
• 2:00:14
  They have like 100 recliners and stuff.
• 2:00:16
  Dude, if the basement was like a lounge, it literally it had five
• 2:00:20
  TV's on the wall, a big sectional ping pong table.
• 2:00:23
  It had lounge seating. It had like a dance floor, like
• 2:00:26
  material bathroom. Oh, it was fantastic.
• 2:00:30
  Yeah, it was. It was great.
• 2:00:32
  And sneaky good food. Sneaky good food, yeah.
• 2:00:35
  Yeah, and there's a cool little spot across from, like, where
• 2:00:37
  the original Tiger Stadium was that every year celebrates Babe
• 2:00:40
  Ruth's birthday. That's a good thing.
• 2:00:43
  Ton of history there. Detroit's a great sports town.
• 2:00:46
  Yeah, it's cool you got a chance to play there.
• 2:00:48
  Transitioning back to the Knicks, I just wanted to ask if
• 2:00:50
  there's any moves either trades wise, obviously free agency
• 2:00:53
  there's not much left, but maybe a trades wise that you would
• 2:00:55
  consider doing if you were the Knicks either to improve the
• 2:00:57
  bench or another potential dangled starter put up possibly?
• 2:01:01
  I'm going to get I'm going to get Arrow fired up.
• 2:01:03
  He got traded today and said he was a math equation.
• 2:01:06
  I put it out there on Sophos show because I know he filed.
• 2:01:08
  He definitely saw it. Can we get Kevin Love to New
• 2:01:11
  York? I would love to see that.
• 2:01:13
  I don't want Kevin Love. I don't want old man Love
• 2:01:15
  jumping around over here in New York.
• 2:01:18
  Stay wherever you are, Kevin. And then and then we got Seth
• 2:01:21
  Curry. It would be so nixed to get the
• 2:01:23
  other Curry. We got the other ants to Kumpo.
• 2:01:25
  We hired Chris Smith once J Rs brother, we had the wrong
• 2:01:29
  Hardaway. We had, you know, let's get, I
• 2:01:31
  don't know, send. Curry to your Michigan boy, Tim
• 2:01:34
  Hardaway. Tim twice a Nick, Always a Nick.
• 2:01:37
  Tim Hardaway junior. Well.
• 2:01:39
  Tim Hardaway senior's been on a show quite a few times he loves.
• 2:01:42
  You know, Kyle, Kyle Lowry just signed with Philly, so he's off
• 2:01:46
  the books. I didn't realize he was that
• 2:01:47
  old. Yeah, yeah, he's.
• 2:01:50
  I was like. Starting to shoot his age on the
• 2:01:51
  front, you know? What I.
• 2:01:53
  Mean. But what do we got for point
• 2:01:55
  guards Arrow Like who? We need another point guard I.
• 2:01:58
  Think, really, who, who, Who do the Knicks have to bring in to
• 2:02:01
  make me want to throw Dame? I've heard.
• 2:02:04
  Development now, so there you. Go.
• 2:02:06
  I would love to see that, but there are stories coming out
• 2:02:08
  that Miami is in the Dame sweepstakes.
• 2:02:11
  Also a team that some people believe could be in the
• 2:02:14
  sweepstakes is the Knicks. He actually, he trains out here
• 2:02:18
  in New York during the offseason.
• 2:02:20
  He also, he goes to a lot of production studios out here in
• 2:02:24
  New York, a lot in the offseason.
• 2:02:26
  Why not Dame come over here and rap for the New York Knicks?
• 2:02:30
  For a couple of years, it's kind of weird with guys like Dame,
• 2:02:32
  guys like Russell Westbrook. We're talking about a LeBron
• 2:02:35
  buyout. Obviously money is money, and I
• 2:02:38
  think there's something about when you are performing at the
• 2:02:40
  highest level, you deserve to get every cent.
• 2:02:43
  But if Dame wanted to crack the code, come here on the veteran
• 2:02:47
  minimum and you still get the 100 M's from the Bucks like it's
• 2:02:50
  right. There for you, dude.
• 2:02:52
  But then I it's, it's to me, I don't think the, the Knicks need
• 2:02:55
  the guard play. I think they got to continue
• 2:02:58
  doing what they're doing and add to the bench, add to the wing
• 2:03:01
  play. I think the more wings you have,
• 2:03:03
  the more wings you add and the defense you need off the bench.
• 2:03:06
  I think that's where the Knicks need to go.
• 2:03:08
  Because you saw in the playoffs, especially against Indiana, when
• 2:03:11
  they when when they had to go to their bench, the defense was
• 2:03:14
  just so lackluster. They just couldn't defend when
• 2:03:17
  they were bringing that second team out.
• 2:03:18
  And of course. Hold.
• 2:03:21
  On that guy 6, he's Bill like you.
• 2:03:23
  He's like 68260. I'm not 6-8, job is like 6-3.
• 2:03:27
  I'm like 5-10. I'm just, I'm broad.
• 2:03:29
  I'm a big guy, but I'm. I'm slowly billed, you know.
• 2:03:31
  What I mean, I'm one of those guys.
• 2:03:33
  Listen, Ben, I'm one of those guys that if you ask me to play
• 2:03:35
  defense, I'll play defense. I'll get right between the
• 2:03:38
  thighs. If Job was going to come at me,
• 2:03:41
  I'm. I'm bending my we're so the dude
• 2:03:43
  in the gym and pick up now I'm like man, I'm just going to
• 2:03:46
  knock knees with this dude and ruin my somewhere, huh?
• 2:03:49
  OK, I'm one of those guys that you, if you turn your for one
• 2:03:53
  second, I'm giving you an elbow, I'm giving you a nice little
• 2:03:56
  knee right into the grind I'm making.
• 2:03:58
  Sure, playing every game like it's my last because it might be
• 2:04:00
  because the guys like you. And I wish, I wish you said he
• 2:04:03
  was 6 foot 8. There's been guests that have
• 2:04:04
  called him like 5 foot 6 and he goes.
• 2:04:06
  Look at the problem. Silly frame.
• 2:04:08
  Dude, Ben, I go out and and people like they watch me on the
• 2:04:11
  show and then we go out to an event and they're like, oh, you
• 2:04:14
  look like you're 56I stand there.
• 2:04:15
  I'm like, I'm 510 1/2. I'm not small.
• 2:04:18
  And they look at me. He's like, wow, you're a lot
• 2:04:19
  bigger than you do on the camera.
• 2:04:21
  You know you're short when you have to add the half.
• 2:04:23
  Yeah, but I am 510 1/2. I'm not.
• 2:04:25
  Screw you, Jabba. Screw you.
• 2:04:28
  I mean, I'm 220 lbs. I I'm.
• 2:04:31
  I'm a Dick. I'm thinking the right places,
• 2:04:33
  right, Speedy? I don't know if you know.
• 2:04:35
  No, I got a woman. I got a woman.
• 2:04:37
  She'll tell you. All I know is, yeah, I think it
• 2:04:40
  was, yeah, it was Leroy Butler. What we had about the show that
• 2:04:42
  was like 3 times during the interview called Errol, He was 5
• 2:04:45
  foot 6. And that said, Errol was like
• 2:04:47
  much younger than or much older than he actually.
• 2:04:50
  Is crazy and everybody when I go out, everybody thinks that I'm
• 2:04:53
  like 2829 this mother. I love you.
• 2:04:56
  First of all, Leroy, we love you and we love them.
• 2:04:59
  But Leroy actually told me I look older than I am.
• 2:05:01
  I'm like Leroy, what do you say I'm 50 years old.
• 2:05:04
  Screw you, Leroy. But Leroy Brown.
• 2:05:06
  Remember that movie Speedy? Remember that?
• 2:05:08
  What movie? I know the new Jack City.
• 2:05:10
  Baby. One of the greatest movies of
• 2:05:12
  all time, by the way. I love it by the way.
• 2:05:15
  And he also said, here's also because Arrow's a Jets fan, too.
• 2:05:17
  He's also taking shots at The Jets like the last time they
• 2:05:19
  made the playoffs with Leroy was.
• 2:05:20
  Everybody, everybody takes shots at the New York Jets, OK, The
• 2:05:24
  Jets are a laughing stock in New York, as they always have been.
• 2:05:27
  And and and. The Knicks are ripe, tailing
• 2:05:29
  behind them with the New York Mets and the Islanders,
• 2:05:31
  obviously, but the island just. Won four times.
• 2:05:34
  It's tough, man. It's you guys.
• 2:05:35
  I mean, you guys are die hard Yankees.
• 2:05:37
  I'm listening to the show and you're arguing over who's the GM
• 2:05:40
  in the 90s. He's a Mets fan.
• 2:05:41
  You know that man? He's a Mets fan.
• 2:05:43
  Yeah, but all right, the Mets, we know are the and they're a
• 2:05:46
  mess and Sodo stinks and all that, and they're just terrible.
• 2:05:48
  So. But then you got the Yankees,
• 2:05:51
  who haven't won since 09, and you got.
• 2:05:54
  Yeah. And then The Jets of The Jets,
• 2:05:56
  the Giants of the Giants. The Giants, it's really the
• 2:06:00
  Liberty. Sound Man and the Liberty are
• 2:06:01
  struggling now this summer. They got waxed yesterday.
• 2:06:04
  Are you really going to go to the Liberty?
• 2:06:06
  Are you serious? I mean, I love what Caitlin.
• 2:06:09
  Talking to the wrong guy. I'm a die.
• 2:06:11
  You know, my question, my question for you and that's that
• 2:06:14
  going to the Liberty, Caitlin Clark.
• 2:06:17
  I, I, we speak high praise of who she is and what she's done
• 2:06:21
  for the WNBA. The money that she's bringing
• 2:06:23
  in, the endorsements, the, the sponsorships and the shoe deals
• 2:06:27
  that she's bringing in and the for the future for like, like
• 2:06:30
  girls like Angel Reese and some of the young girls that are
• 2:06:32
  coming up through the college ranks.
• 2:06:35
  Why is it that every single one of these women playing in the
• 2:06:39
  WNBA have so much hate for this girl who's done nothing but good
• 2:06:43
  things for the WNBA? I want to know your opinion.
• 2:06:45
  Let's see. Blank and same with every single
• 2:06:49
  one. I think a lot of them, a lot of.
• 2:06:50
  Them I think I think when you you have to really understand
• 2:06:53
  how marginalized and how challenging the journey has been
• 2:06:57
  for a lot of women playing hoops and when they feel like someones
• 2:07:01
  been anointed it they want to see it and they're competitors.
• 2:07:04
  So you're like, man, when I guard her, it's going to be
• 2:07:07
  different. When I square up against her,
• 2:07:09
  I'll show her what's up. That's the competitor in these
• 2:07:11
  women, right? And she comes on the court and
• 2:07:13
  busts her ass and shoots it from Ohio from 30 feet like that.
• 2:07:17
  And that, like she's a star. Because when you watch Hoop like
• 2:07:20
  we all do, whether it's the men's game, the women's game,
• 2:07:23
  she does stuff that no Hooper does.
• 2:07:25
  She does stuff that makes you go OK, like this woman's just
• 2:07:29
  different. So there's some jealousy, maybe
• 2:07:32
  there's some resentment. I think there was some confusion
• 2:07:34
  at first is, wait, why is she getting all this praise?
• 2:07:37
  They didn't win it all in the champion.
• 2:07:39
  Stewie said if you don't win it all in college, like, does it,
• 2:07:42
  you know, Diana was saying, oh, I'll take Paige over her.
• 2:07:45
  So they want to see it now. They've seen it.
• 2:07:47
  And it's, I think that's kind of dying down a little bit.
• 2:07:50
  I mean, she's tough. They're they're they they
• 2:07:53
  embrace the villain role that the Tres lechas like.
• 2:07:56
  I love the whole thing in Indiana.
• 2:07:58
  It should be a little better. She's been injured.
• 2:08:00
  She missed her fifth game tonight.
• 2:08:01
  I think I saw Speedy said on the up there, Fish said on the
• 2:08:04
  update. But it's growing pains, man.
• 2:08:07
  That league is crazy that this like the stuff that they have to
• 2:08:10
  go through and have endured over the last, you know, I don't
• 2:08:13
  know, 27 years. I mean, Jabba, if you had to go
• 2:08:16
  to Russia or Bulgaria for six months out of the year to pitch
• 2:08:21
  and have no offseason to make a living and make more money over
• 2:08:24
  there than here, like you have resentment to help the leagues
• 2:08:28
  run and stuff. So it's just kind of a mess.
• 2:08:29
  But at the same time, it's growing and it's dope hoop and
• 2:08:33
  if you go to the Barclays and just like go on a Tuesday night
• 2:08:36
  in July, it's a vibe, right I'm. All but because she's doing what
• 2:08:40
  she's doing for the WNBA, these girls are not going to have to
• 2:08:43
  go to Belarus or Spain or Portugal to play basketball
• 2:08:48
  after the WNBA. So I don't know why.
• 2:08:50
  What? What's the bitch in a moaning?
• 2:08:51
  And Diana Taurasi, please. Old man, old woman Taurasi going
• 2:08:56
  out there and speaking like she's something special.
• 2:08:59
  I say you can't thing, I say I get it.
• 2:09:01
  My Yukon. I'll tell you what I think of
• 2:09:03
  Yukon at Yukon basketball. I'm not going to say it on this
• 2:09:06
  radio show because we got a lot of Yukonites listening to the
• 2:09:10
  show and they're probably going to hate me after.
• 2:09:11
  Well, what else is new? Everybody hates me.
• 2:09:14
  Kiss my ass. Jabba hates.
• 2:09:15
  Me. It's a great name for your
• 2:09:17
  autobiography. Arrow everybody hates.
• 2:09:19
  Everybody hates me. That's perfect.
• 2:09:21
  Jabba hates me. Like that's like the show.
• 2:09:23
  Everybody hates Chris, but I want to know, Errol, you brought
• 2:09:31
  that up. And like, obviously Ben, you
• 2:09:33
  see, like you see it on a different, I guess a different
• 2:09:37
  spectrum as far as like covering it and what you do.
• 2:09:39
  Like why, why do they just let these people go out there all
• 2:09:43
  Willy nilly? I'll use Cheryl Swoops as an
• 2:09:45
  example. She's like, well, she had five
• 2:09:47
  and six years. She's 25 years old.
• 2:09:50
  She did it in 3 1/2 because she had a COVID short in the year in
• 2:09:53
  2020 and she's only 22. Like how come they did?
• 2:09:57
  There's no like, and I think it's great for the WNBA just
• 2:10:01
  because it's creating some type of feeling because it hasn't had
• 2:10:07
  any for a while. And how they said that the Fever
• 2:10:10
  wouldn't have made the playoffs without her.
• 2:10:11
  They won like 8 games the year before like and then they go to
• 2:10:14
  they they go to the playoffs so. Now, a tough moment there for
• 2:10:17
  Cheryl Swoops. And she was sitting.
• 2:10:20
  She was. Taking more than one elbow on
• 2:10:22
  some of the dumb shit she said. I know that's been unfortunate
• 2:10:25
  to see her and you got to think too, but I mean that's you're
• 2:10:28
  talking Errol's talking about the women from today who are
• 2:10:30
  playing, beefing with her on the court.
• 2:10:33
  You're talking about previous generations, you know, multiple
• 2:10:36
  times removed from the league. And so there's obviously some
• 2:10:40
  some resentment there, but unfortunately that was it like a
• 2:10:42
  tough moment where it wasn't about your opinion.
• 2:10:45
  Like, oh, I don't think she's going to be an All Star of the
• 2:10:48
  first year or whatever. That's different than saying
• 2:10:51
  like she took five years and it took X amount of games when
• 2:10:55
  that's just wrong, right? And she is sitting opposite that
• 2:10:59
  modern day Walter Cronkite, Gilbert Arenas.
• 2:11:01
  So I give her a little bit of that.
• 2:11:04
  I I will say this. Look, we've all, all of us in
• 2:11:07
  this hot take space. We're trying to predict the
• 2:11:10
  future of sports. We've all had some some cold
• 2:11:13
  ones. Like you can look up my takes on
• 2:11:15
  Jokic. They're not my finest hour.
• 2:11:17
  But I don't Get the facts wrong in terms of how many games the
• 2:11:20
  guy plays and whatnot. So I think that, yeah, I think
• 2:11:24
  little Java, like you've seen it at different times in
• 2:11:27
  basketball, like when Allen Iverson came in the league, it
• 2:11:29
  was a big conversation about him having to respect the elders of
• 2:11:33
  the game and having to, you know, show love to the previous
• 2:11:36
  generation. There was like a lot of that.
• 2:11:38
  Well, that that was too with like his, you know, wearing
• 2:11:41
  jerseys and chains and all that stuff.
• 2:11:43
  All types of things like this, right?
• 2:11:45
  But now it's like Lebron's generation has made it cool,
• 2:11:48
  kind of to like, embrace the young.
• 2:11:50
  Guys he like, so you're bringing up LeBron now.
• 2:11:53
  There we go. So so you wanted to bring up
• 2:11:56
  LeBron James and I'm going to tell you what I think about
• 2:11:58
  LeBron James. And first of all, it's not the
• 2:12:00
  NBA, it's the LJA, the LeBron James Association.
• 2:12:06
  It's run a little. Popcorn because he's going to go
• 2:12:08
  for. A LeBron James is the biggest
• 2:12:10
  bitch of them all. He's the greatest, second
• 2:12:13
  greatest basketball player ever to play.
• 2:12:14
  I'm going to tell you this right now.
• 2:12:16
  He is the second greatest from. Ohio, that's your man.
• 2:12:19
  I don't know what we're doing. LeBron James.
• 2:12:21
  Listen, LeBron James is the second greatest basketball
• 2:12:23
  player of all time, right behind Michael Jordan.
• 2:12:25
  I won't argue that that is true. But him politically and opening
• 2:12:29
  his mouth and throwing people onto the bus and saying the
• 2:12:32
  things that he has said and sticking up for assholes like,
• 2:12:35
  yes, Kyrie Irving, who's the most disrespectful piece of
• 2:12:41
  garbage in the NBA. Great, great ball handler,
• 2:12:44
  probably right behind AI. You can argue that he's probably
• 2:12:47
  the second greatest ball handler we've ever seen, but the fact is
• 2:12:50
  LeBron James has ruined the game.
• 2:12:52
  Here He is right there. He's a LeBron James enthusiast,
• 2:12:56
  right over there with his little Kobe, whatever the hell it is.
• 2:12:59
  Popcorn eating. You know, mongrel pretzel eating
• 2:13:03
  ball sucker. Can you?
• 2:13:04
  All right, all right. So clearly you're not a LeBron
• 2:13:06
  fan. I get.
• 2:13:07
  It no, I, I, I think he's the second greatest basketball
• 2:13:09
  player of all time. I see you're not you're not a
• 2:13:12
  fan and he's an idiot. That's pretty offensive and
• 2:13:15
  derogatory things about it. I see where you stand, but I ask
• 2:13:18
  you this much like I'm trying to think in culture, pop culture,
• 2:13:22
  media, entertainment, sports and sports are a part of that.
• 2:13:26
  Who has been introduced to us as the chosen 1 like this is the
• 2:13:32
  guy from like 16 and then held that to 41 without jumping on
• 2:13:39
  the couch like Tom Cruise and having Scientology debates and
• 2:13:43
  things without having real you. Brought now you brought it up.
• 2:13:49
  OK, This is the same LeBron James that was going to the PD
• 2:13:52
  part P Diddy parties, hanging out with P Diddy, going to those
• 2:13:55
  freak offs. OK, Please, LJA baby, if it's
• 2:14:01
  not P Diddy, it's Spike freaking Lee.
• 2:14:04
  I am done. LJA.
• 2:14:05
  Ladies and gentlemen, Adam Silver is LeBron James's bitch.
• 2:14:10
  That's what he is. You can eat.
• 2:14:12
  It. You can.
• 2:14:13
  Size. As someone who as someone who
• 2:14:16
  takes great, as someone who takes great pride, I know.
• 2:14:18
  You're covering the. EPA.
• 2:14:20
  I'm going to be honest, it's a little much what you're saying.
• 2:14:23
  Considering. What this guy has the guy built
• 2:14:27
  a school dog like he built a school.
• 2:14:29
  Like if I had his money, I'd be building churches, schools.
• 2:14:33
  And he had and he stood up for a lot of marginalized people.
• 2:14:36
  And I think he's actually created the point I was
• 2:14:38
  originally trying to make, which I think is kind of interesting.
• 2:14:40
  You'll indulge me for a moment. The idea that like this next
• 2:14:43
  generation of players, there's not this resentment right now
• 2:14:47
  when LeBron and KD and Steph are all going to be passing the
• 2:14:51
  torch. There's kind of a brotherhood
• 2:14:53
  that's formed, there's economic empowerment, There's like taking
• 2:14:56
  your career into your own hands. There's these guys are passing
• 2:15:00
  the torch and they're given the blueprint.
• 2:15:02
  They're not sitting in their ivory towers saying you guys are
• 2:15:05
  the next Gen. You're not having it like us.
• 2:15:07
  We're not seeing that from these guys.
• 2:15:08
  Really. KD has how many Twitter accounts
• 2:15:11
  8910? Talking to talking to you, he's
• 2:15:15
  talking to you. What I'm talking about when he's
• 2:15:17
  sitting down with Victor Wimbunyama and giving him jewels
• 2:15:21
  on how to be a pro at the highest level and be a global
• 2:15:23
  superstar when you're, you know, come on, man.
• 2:15:26
  Like these guys, That's the thing too.
• 2:15:27
  And Jabba, you know, like you guys get all this money and
• 2:15:30
  you're so young and all this fame and we know how many guys
• 2:15:34
  can we talk about who messed it up or blew?
• 2:15:38
  It so I think that it is, it is more prevalent, as you said,
• 2:15:42
  like from the men's side of thing.
• 2:15:45
  Wouldn't like now that they're getting this opportunity from
• 2:15:47
  the women's side of it. Wouldn't you want to embrace
• 2:15:50
  that more to like as, as we always get excited about the guy
• 2:15:53
  that signs a great contract before us because he sets the
• 2:15:57
  mark now and now boom, that mark.
• 2:15:59
  Now I'm going to have the opportunity to get a shoe deal
• 2:16:02
  or to, to make more in arbitration or free agency or
• 2:16:06
  have that marketing stuff. I just, we're all tried to be
• 2:16:10
  the best that we can be and they get to that level, right?
• 2:16:13
  And so wouldn't you want to praise that and be like, look at
• 2:16:15
  all this stuff. Look at how much more our
• 2:16:17
  attendance is up And like, I would I would shower her with
• 2:16:21
  all the praise in the world. And is she the only one?
• 2:16:23
  No, there's been great players before.
• 2:16:25
  You know, Lobo, you've had Lisa Leslie, you've.
• 2:16:28
  Had a ton. Of great women's basketball
• 2:16:30
  players. And then when somebody comes
• 2:16:32
  like this, I just, it just blows my mind.
• 2:16:35
  You're absolutely right, You know, it's a watershed moment
• 2:16:37
  for the league and it's the only year 2 for her.
• 2:16:40
  So I still think there's some growing pains with it.
• 2:16:42
  And I think eventually when this new collective bargaining
• 2:16:44
  agreement gets done, which is like has everybody on edge right
• 2:16:47
  now and all of its influx TV and new media partners and stuff,
• 2:16:51
  once that dust settles, they'll be like, oh, this is the golden
• 2:16:54
  goose We all can eat off this. The game is going to grow.
• 2:16:58
  You have 3 new franchises in the next three years I think in
• 2:17:02
  Toronto, and you already saw Golden State you're in.
• 2:17:04
  Detroit, they just. Announced Cleveland so it's like
• 2:17:08
  when they when Caitlin Clark starts coming to town in those
• 2:17:10
  cities and they realize oh wow, the hotel sold out.
• 2:17:13
  Oh wow, ESPN here oh, look at countdown here look at okay, the
• 2:17:18
  restaurant sold out like I think just give us some time.
• 2:17:20
  It's just happening, right? Now here not.
• 2:17:27
  Arrows watching The Jets because they just signed a new lineman.
• 2:17:32
  Of course, leave it up to all these so-called radio or
• 2:17:37
  television stars to attack me about the New York Jets.
• 2:17:41
  I haven't even mentioned The Jets except you idiots bringing
• 2:17:44
  up The Jets and now all of a sudden, oh, he's a Jet fan.
• 2:17:47
  Let's go attack them. All right.
• 2:17:49
  Anyways, we love you man. This was a great interview.
• 2:17:52
  You're fit I. Appreciate you guys having me
• 2:17:54
  on. You guys are building something.
• 2:17:55
  I've been a fan Java for a long time.
• 2:17:57
  I want to get some Nick Swishter stories off air.
• 2:18:00
  You can't bro me unless you know me.
• 2:18:01
  I love that dude. But there's an Ohio guy.
• 2:18:05
  But but you guys are great. Thank you for having me, man.
• 2:18:08
  Let's chop it up when the season starts for these Knicks.
• 2:18:10
  I will tell you Ben, we had a clicker one time and he kept
• 2:18:13
  saying bro, we just threw the damn clicker away because we
• 2:18:15
  couldn't keep. Every time he says, bro, you're
• 2:18:17
  like, it's like a doorman at a club and you're like.
• 2:18:20
  I was like, all right, I'm done. I think me and Cece were like,
• 2:18:22
  how many you got? I was like 73.
• 2:18:24
  He's like, yeah, I'm like 70. I was like, I'm done.
• 2:18:26
  Can we just? Can we have it on like an 11
• 2:18:28
  today, not like a four? We're only in like the 5th
• 2:18:31
  inning too. It's like barely half over.
• 2:18:33
  A lot of those play by play guys, I mean, they're just
• 2:18:36
  absolutely putrid. I'm not going to mention any
• 2:18:38
  names, no. You guys are awesome.
• 2:18:39
  Thank you for having me on man, I love chopping it up.
• 2:18:42
  Absolutely, Ben. We really appreciate first time
• 2:18:44
  on our show so you could tell the fans what we really are.
• 2:18:47
  I'm probably saying, man, that guy's out of his mind, but it's
• 2:18:50
  I. Like it?
• 2:18:51
  I like it. It's spicy.
• 2:18:52
  Let's mix it up. Yeah.
• 2:18:54
  Well, and we'll talk about Diddy another time.
• 2:18:56
  I've been to a few. Yeah, well, we'll step away.
• 2:18:58
  Hopefully you don't go to them anyways.
• 2:19:00
  Ben Lyons, ladies and gentlemen, he's great.
• 2:19:06
  That was fun. That was fun.
• 2:19:08
  I like that. That was fun.
• 2:19:09
  I I can't lie, that was a fun interview.
• 2:19:12
  He had a lot of fun. You could tell he had a lot of
• 2:19:14
  fun and we went all over the place after the Knicks.
• 2:19:17
  So it was great. Thank you to Ben Lyons.
• 2:19:19
  He was fantastic. NBA Knicks NBATV contributor.
• 2:19:23
  I've seen him on NBATV. He's he's sensational and he
• 2:19:27
  knows his Knicks. There's no question that he
• 2:19:28
  does. All right.
• 2:19:29
  Ladies and gentlemen, we call this segment sounded out.
• 2:19:32
  Take a roll here. Jake Quelen Where's Jake Quelen
• 2:19:34
  at? No Jake Quelen here.
• 2:19:36
  Do you mean Jacqueline? Let's sound it out.
• 2:19:39
  What you call me? Sound it out out.
• 2:19:44
  OK, guys, welcome to another edition of Sound It Out.
• 2:19:49
  This is the game where we can see if Errol can pronounce some
• 2:19:53
  complicated names and we're going to stay with baseball
• 2:19:55
  today. Errol, we're going to go into a
• 2:19:58
  couple of All Stars you have. These names are more familiar,
• 2:20:02
  at least the first one is. Let's see if you can figure this
• 2:20:05
  one out here to. Tonight, right here it is.
• 2:20:10
  Sound it out. Former All Star for the Braves.
• 2:20:17
  Jar ear jergens. That is incorrect.
• 2:20:23
  Let's get the sound. Oh my God, I forgot to change
• 2:20:25
  this whole thing. There it is.
• 2:20:27
  Sorry, I kicked half a wrong answer there.
• 2:20:29
  It is. It has no sound.
• 2:20:30
  All right, it is actually pronounced gergens.
• 2:20:34
  They're the J and the the the the G in the last.
• 2:20:37
  Fish where's pay the. Hard G jare Gergens Oh for one
• 2:20:43
  Errol. But it's always a great chance
• 2:20:45
  to come back. Is 2 more to go if you can get
• 2:20:48
  one. Of them you're.
• 2:20:49
  Still an All Star hitting 330. Let's see if you can get this
• 2:20:52
  next one. Here.
• 2:20:53
  Here it goes. Let's get the music on.
• 2:20:55
  Sound it out. This guy won an All Star game in
• 2:21:01
  1960. OK, Bill.
• 2:21:06
  Bom bouquet. Bom bouquet.
• 2:21:10
  Mon bouquet. I I have no idea.
• 2:21:13
  Mobu quit. Mobu quit.
• 2:21:15
  This was a. Trick question, Errol.
• 2:21:17
  It was 1960 when people didn't care how to pronounce French
• 2:21:21
  names. It's just Bill Mon.
• 2:21:23
  Bucket, are you kidding me? This is.
• 2:21:26
  This is. I'm not.
• 2:21:27
  It's a trick one. I gave you some tricky ones
• 2:21:29
  today. Thank.
• 2:21:30
  You. This.
• 2:21:31
  Is not obscure Russian ones. This is a grumpy old.
• 2:21:36
  Man, I would be grumpy if I was Owen too.
• 2:21:38
  Let's see if you can't get the next one.
• 2:21:39
  We have one more Errol. This is a music.
• 2:21:43
  Guy. Time to sound it.
• 2:21:46
  Oh are. You kidding me?
• 2:21:47
  What the? Hell, this guy's nickname,
• 2:21:49
  Errol, he wasn't an All Star, but this guy's nickname was the
• 2:21:54
  Human Eye Chart because his last name looks like an eye chart.
• 2:22:00
  Doug Watts, What the hell is this?
• 2:22:08
  This is. This is Doug Goosh.
• 2:22:11
  That is Doug. Goosh, Doug Douche.
• 2:22:14
  GWOSDZ. Goosh.
• 2:22:20
  What did it happen, everybody, for Errol tonight?
• 2:22:24
  Oh, for three? Sorry.
• 2:22:25
  We'll get plenty more at bats next.
• 2:22:27
  Job. I liked myself.
• 2:22:30
  Yeah. Well, thank you for embarrassing
• 2:22:32
  me once again on this stupid, you know, segment.
• 2:22:35
  Anyways, I, I will say this before we get into the next
• 2:22:38
  segment and we've got a couple of more important segments to
• 2:22:41
  get into. I, I, first of all, I've never
• 2:22:45
  had lions on the show. So that was, that was news to me
• 2:22:48
  and it was a first time for me. Ben Lyons was sensational
• 2:22:52
  because he has the kind of personality that fits what our
• 2:22:55
  show was all about. He kind of take a step back.
• 2:22:58
  I'm sure if anybody has checked him out on social media and on
• 2:23:02
  NBATV, you would see that when he is there and he's talking,
• 2:23:07
  he's very straightforward and you know, he's, he's good, but
• 2:23:11
  he's he's not like he is was was on a show.
• 2:23:14
  So I got to give him a little bit of credit for coming on a
• 2:23:16
  show and and doing what he did. So I was impressed.
• 2:23:19
  I was very impressed with Ben Lyons.
• 2:23:21
  Jeff Passan reports that the Nationals have fired long time
• 2:23:25
  manager Dave Martinez and President of Baseball operations
• 2:23:30
  Mike Rizzo. Martinez has been with the
• 2:23:35
  organization since 2018 and Rizzo has been with the
• 2:23:38
  organization since 2013. Both were there during their
• 2:23:42
  World Series winning season in 2019.
• 2:23:45
  USA Today's Bob Nightingale said there was always a long term
• 2:23:50
  plan of judging the Nationals progress when deciding if they
• 2:23:56
  were going to bring back Martinez, who has a team option
• 2:24:00
  this year. He adds that Rizzo and Martinez
• 2:24:03
  were like likely attached by the hip whether they decided to keep
• 2:24:07
  them or let them go and let them go.
• 2:24:10
  As a result of the Nationals having a 37 and 53 record, the
• 2:24:14
  Nationals traded many stars from championship teams such as Max
• 2:24:19
  Scherzer, Trey Turner, Juan Soto and got back a lot of good young
• 2:24:23
  talent over the years. These players included catcher
• 2:24:29
  Ruiz, shortstop Abrahams and 2024 All Star pitcher Grey and
• 2:24:36
  two 2025 All Stars in pitching. I'm sorry, Mackenzie Gore and Al
• 2:24:42
  Fielder James Wood, who by the way, James Wood is probably one
• 2:24:46
  of the best young superstars in the major leagues right now.
• 2:24:49
  Power eater, big guy. Compare his skills to the Aaron
• 2:24:53
  Judge type. I.
• 2:24:54
  I will say this, the Nationals needed to do this years ago and
• 2:25:00
  I'm not taking shots at the organization.
• 2:25:02
  Organization one, they had Bryce Harper there, they had Stephen
• 2:25:06
  Strasburg there and they're no longer there.
• 2:25:09
  And one of the reasons why they're no longer there is
• 2:25:10
  because the organization don't keep superstars there.
• 2:25:13
  They eventually when they become free agents or they they have,
• 2:25:17
  you know, seasons where they have had great seasons or even
• 2:25:21
  turned around seasons, they find a way to move them.
• 2:25:24
  Some of them were good moves and some of them really bad moves.
• 2:25:28
  And the organization after winning the way they did and
• 2:25:32
  Juan Soto going, you know, absolutely, you know, hot in the
• 2:25:37
  playoffs and doing what he did in the playoffs and helping that
• 2:25:40
  team win a World Series and doing what a Bryce Harper.
• 2:25:42
  Because remember, Bryce Harper left, he went to Philadelphia
• 2:25:47
  the year before they won a World Series.
• 2:25:49
  So they they had Bryce Harper there, they had Steven
• 2:25:52
  Strasburg, They they had a talented all around team.
• 2:25:54
  And Juan Soto was the young guy coming up.
• 2:25:56
  What was he, 1920 years old? Yeah.
• 2:25:59
  So he was a baby. He came up and got really,
• 2:26:01
  really hot at the end of season and went on that unbelievable
• 2:26:04
  run in the playoffs where they were just untouchable.
• 2:26:06
  Max Scherzer, who I I respect his ability.
• 2:26:09
  Max Scherzer, a guy that was a journeyman all the way through
• 2:26:13
  his career, went from, and I don't think people remember he
• 2:26:16
  was traded for, if I'm not mistaken, Curtis Granderson.
• 2:26:19
  If I'm not mistaken, it wasn't Curtis Granderson he was traded
• 2:26:21
  for. I think he was in the deal
• 2:26:23
  somewhere. Wait, no, it was a Diamondback.
• 2:26:25
  So no, it probably wouldn't. Have been, it wasn't, I'm not
• 2:26:28
  sure, but Curtis Granderson I think was involved with, it was
• 2:26:30
  a three team trade. Detroit was there.
• 2:26:33
  I think it was Detroit, the Yankees and Arizona.
• 2:26:36
  And I think Granderson went to the Yankees.
• 2:26:39
  Detroit sent Granderson to the Yankees.
• 2:26:41
  Oh. You're right.
• 2:26:42
  Yes, you're right. It was Diamondbacks received Ian
• 2:26:43
  Kennedy. I corrected you, Mr. I know it
• 2:26:47
  all and over there. Diamondbacks traded Scherzer and
• 2:26:51
  Dan Schlereth to the Tigers. Diamondbacks got Ian Kennedy and
• 2:26:54
  Edwin Jackson, and I remember Curtis Granderson.
• 2:26:56
  I remember that trade and, and, and really the team that won
• 2:26:59
  that trade was Detroit. And even with Curtis Grandison
• 2:27:02
  having those great years with the Yankees, if I think that one
• 2:27:05
  year he had close to 50 home runs, but the Yankees could
• 2:27:08
  never go over the hump. And Curtis Grandison throughout
• 2:27:11
  the playoffs could not hit in the playoffs.
• 2:27:13
  And that was a big problem. He was a he really was a when he
• 2:27:16
  went to the Yankees, this guy was a A2 way player.
• 2:27:18
  And when he went to the Yankees, he became a power hitter more in
• 2:27:21
  Yankee Stadium than he was a defensive player or even a base
• 2:27:24
  Steeler. So and he was pretty good when
• 2:27:26
  he was in Detroit as an outfielder.
• 2:27:28
  But I, I think Max Scherzer was a journeyman and all the way
• 2:27:31
  through till he went to the Nationals and then he spent his
• 2:27:34
  career with the Nationals. If you look at his career, even
• 2:27:37
  with Detroit, he was only in there with Detroit for what,
• 2:27:39
  three years? And then he then went to the
• 2:27:42
  national sign that long term deal and then he went on that
• 2:27:45
  stand where he was the best pitcher in baseball.
• 2:27:47
  I don't think you could argue that he was that Scherzer had
• 2:27:50
  some of the best years we've seen a pitcher have when he was
• 2:27:53
  with the Nationals. But the organization over the
• 2:27:55
  last couple years have been absolutely putrid.
• 2:27:58
  They they don't keep players. They do bring in these young
• 2:28:01
  players. We'll see how they develop and
• 2:28:03
  Wood looks like he's going to be a star, but you never know what
• 2:28:05
  these Farms hands are going to be, where these guys, how these
• 2:28:08
  guys are going to turn up and how they're going to turn out.
• 2:28:10
  As you know with the New York Yankees over the years, as the
• 2:28:13
  Yankee fan, this guy's going to be good.
• 2:28:15
  That guy's going to be good. And they never pan out.
• 2:28:17
  None of them pan out. Usually one out of probably 10
• 2:28:20
  guys pan out. Remember Clint Frazier when the
• 2:28:22
  Yankees traded with the Indians? Remember that?
• 2:28:24
  I'm sorry, the Guardians remember that trade.
• 2:28:27
  Everybody, This guy is a home run player, 5 tool player.
• 2:28:30
  I mean, after he got hurt or something was going on with his
• 2:28:34
  brain, something happened. Yeah.
• 2:28:36
  He could not hit with the Yankees and then he was never a
• 2:28:39
  good player after he left in the New York Yankees.
• 2:28:41
  You just never know what these guys.
• 2:28:42
  How about Sheffield? Remember when the Yankees
• 2:28:44
  brought him in and they drafted him?
• 2:28:46
  Sheffield was going to be this unbelievable pitcher and then he
• 2:28:49
  couldn't cut it with. The he went to the Mariners,
• 2:28:51
  right? Yeah.
• 2:28:52
  James Paxton's right. He couldn't cut it with the
• 2:28:54
  Yankees. Then he went on, He went
• 2:28:56
  somewhere else and he couldn't cut it there with the Mariners.
• 2:28:58
  I these farm hands never, you know that.
• 2:29:00
  You just don't know what these guys.
• 2:29:02
  What we do know is Bryce Harper was a star.
• 2:29:05
  Juan Soda was a * Steven Strasburg, the star, All these
• 2:29:08
  guys that they they've brought up over the years, these great
• 2:29:12
  young players, besides Strasburg, who was there
• 2:29:14
  practically his whole career, every one of those guys were
• 2:29:17
  traded or let go or went to another organization because the
• 2:29:20
  organization in Rizzo and Martinez could not get.
• 2:29:23
  And by the way, they have a very rich owner.
• 2:29:25
  Their owner has money. It's not like he was born.
• 2:29:27
  He's one of the richer owners in the major leagues.
• 2:29:30
  They never kept their players. Could you imagine?
• 2:29:33
  Just think about this job, Think about this.
• 2:29:35
  If they kept Bryce Harper, Juan Soto, Strasbourg and Max
• 2:29:41
  Scherzer on this roster, how many championships they would
• 2:29:44
  have won? Just think about it, how many
• 2:29:46
  championships would have this team won if they kept all these
• 2:29:49
  guys on this roster? Rendon, remember him?
• 2:29:52
  He wasn't good when he went. He went somewhere else and he
• 2:29:55
  was 1/3 baseman and he he was a great player too, with the
• 2:29:58
  National when he left, when he. Left.
• 2:30:00
  That's when he actually wanted to play, though.
• 2:30:02
  Yeah, exactly. But just think about that.
• 2:30:04
  If you look at that roster right now, could you imagine if that
• 2:30:08
  roster was still together today? I mean, you're talking about
• 2:30:12
  maybe three titles. And I think that's how good they
• 2:30:14
  could have been. And I blame Rizzo, I blame
• 2:30:16
  Martinez. They didn't keep this team
• 2:30:18
  together, didn't keep this roster together.
• 2:30:20
  And it was problems. They brought these relief
• 2:30:22
  pitchers. I'm not going to mention any
• 2:30:23
  names. They they brought in these guys
• 2:30:25
  that just didn't get along with their superstar players, Bryce
• 2:30:29
  Harper being one of them. And that's why Bryce decided,
• 2:30:31
  hey, you know what, you don't want to pay me.
• 2:30:32
  You don't want me here. I'm going elsewhere.
• 2:30:34
  I go to Philadelphia. He wanted to be a Yankee because
• 2:30:36
  his father was a Mickey Mantle fan.
• 2:30:38
  So it's, it's been a problem for this organization, keeping stars
• 2:30:41
  in this organization, and that's why they're gone.
• 2:30:44
  They should have been gone five years ago.
• 2:30:45
  It's interesting they have one of the more fascinating 10 years
• 2:30:47
  when you look at it. You're right.
• 2:30:48
  I agree with you. I probably would have fired him
• 2:30:50
  before they ended up winning a World Series and a lot of the
• 2:30:52
  moves they were making at the time, we were a lot of overpays
• 2:30:54
  on trades. Adam Eaton trading all those
• 2:30:57
  guys away to the White Sox at the time of two or three top
• 2:30:59
  prospects at the time. It seemed kind of weird, like
• 2:31:01
  you mentioned, overpaying a lot of the reviews.
• 2:31:03
  What we say about the Phillies bullpen now or their bullpen for
• 2:31:06
  a while, kind of a revolving door and then they do these
• 2:31:09
  other things that make it work. They get great value in these
• 2:31:11
  trades back for Soto and Max Scherzer and all that.
• 2:31:14
  These young core has been nice and now you decide to fire them.
• 2:31:16
  It's just very weird timing the way it happens because it's kind
• 2:31:18
  of an up and down tenure the way it's happened now.
• 2:31:21
  I never thought Dave Martinez, when he took over as the
• 2:31:23
  Nationals manager, was ever a amazing manager.
• 2:31:26
  He was probably, if you look at managers of one World Series,
• 2:31:28
  probably one of the lower ones. But he still won a World Series
• 2:31:30
  and now the team is rebuilding and all of a sudden, like he
• 2:31:33
  becomes a scapegoat. At the same time, maybe there
• 2:31:35
  was a player relationship issue. Maybe he's not as good with the
• 2:31:37
  younger players because manage a veteran team when they won the
• 2:31:40
  World Series in 2019 and that was even losing Harper, they
• 2:31:43
  still had, like you said, Rendon, Strasbourg, they brought
• 2:31:45
  in Howie Kendrick and Brian Dozier, guys like that.
• 2:31:48
  So it's one of those things where maybe it didn't fit with
• 2:31:50
  the younger players, but Rizzo at the same time was making
• 2:31:53
  these good trades and now you decide to fire him.
• 2:31:54
  Seems like a very strange dynamic.
• 2:31:56
  I agree with like 2017 or 18 and it didn't make much sense to
• 2:31:58
  keep him at that point. But then I think he did
• 2:32:00
  everything. He tried to save it and then now
• 2:32:02
  all of a sudden you trade him now before the trade deadline,
• 2:32:04
  you're throwing rookies into the fire.
• 2:32:05
  It seems very odd. Yeah, it's I was just going back
• 2:32:11
  through and the dudes that they've had come through that
• 2:32:14
  organization. I mean, yeah, Ryan Zimmerman
• 2:32:16
  kind of tailed off the end of his career, but he had a great
• 2:32:19
  run, Trey. Turner had.
• 2:32:20
  I forgot about him too. Yeah, Trey Turner literally came
• 2:32:23
  up with them. And you know, when you when you
• 2:32:26
  look at all the talent that they've had like come through
• 2:32:29
  and not only, I mean, shit, you had Dusty Baker at the helm too,
• 2:32:33
  you know, so you had all kinds of opportunities to do a lot
• 2:32:38
  more than what they've done. I just it it, it surprises me
• 2:32:42
  that it took this long really, and especially because we don't
• 2:32:45
  see it a lot in baseball when they do it kind of mid season
• 2:32:48
  or, you know, in in this situation.
• 2:32:51
  So yeah, I would it, it didn't surprise me by any means.
• 2:32:54
  I definitely do agree that I I thought it should have happened
• 2:32:58
  a lot sooner than it did. And, and it'll be interesting to
• 2:33:01
  see kind of what direction they're going to try and go.
• 2:33:04
  And you know, they've got some, they've got some young talent.
• 2:33:07
  And I think you know, with, with what they've experienced before
• 2:33:11
  in the past, how are they going to use them?
• 2:33:13
  Are they going to do exactly kind of what they did and like,
• 2:33:16
  hey, we're going to try for a couple years and then hey, see,
• 2:33:18
  we're going to we're going. To go they're, they're an
• 2:33:21
  organization and that really works like a small market
• 2:33:23
  organization. They're their owner's one of the
• 2:33:25
  richer owners in all of baseball.
• 2:33:28
  And I know that because we know Charlie Slows, he's been on a
• 2:33:31
  show and he tells me all the time how rich their owner is and
• 2:33:34
  why he doesn't really dig into his pockets and keep these guys
• 2:33:38
  there with the organization. I think it's been a big problem
• 2:33:40
  over the years and I, I blame Martinez.
• 2:33:42
  I think Martinez is a guy that should have been fighting for
• 2:33:45
  guys like Bryce Harper, fighting for guys like Trey Turner that
• 2:33:49
  should have stayed there. Why do you think Bryce Harper
• 2:33:51
  and Trey Turner are playing for the same organization right now
• 2:33:54
  in Philadelphia? Those guys loved each other.
• 2:33:56
  They were like brothers. And now they go to the an
• 2:33:58
  organization that's in the same division as them.
• 2:34:02
  So it just shows you the way the organization works.
• 2:34:04
  They don't keep their players, they don't keep their players
• 2:34:07
  happy. And, and again, you go back and
• 2:34:10
  somebody like Dave Martinez. What scares me about Dave
• 2:34:12
  Martinez if let's say the Yankees decide, hey, you know
• 2:34:15
  what, we're going to part with Brian Cashman and we're going to
• 2:34:18
  just dig deep and we're going to bring in Dave Martinez to take
• 2:34:21
  over this organization. The Yankees are making a sloppy
• 2:34:23
  mistake. And again, with how
• 2:34:25
  Steinbrenner, I don't know what to predict on the way the
• 2:34:29
  Yankees are going to go if Brian Cashman or the Yankees decide to
• 2:34:32
  part ways with one another. So it scares the hell out of me
• 2:34:35
  when you hear Dave Martinez on the market for AGM job.
• 2:34:39
  So that's the scary part over there as far as Rizzo's
• 2:34:42
  concerned. Rizzo should not have had a job
• 2:34:45
  as a manager. OK.
• 2:34:46
  I, I just think very overrated. The talent that he's had there
• 2:34:50
  over the years. It just makes you sick to your
• 2:34:52
  stomach. Look at the pitchers they've
• 2:34:53
  had, look at the roster they've had and they've won 1
• 2:34:56
  championship. And really without any of those
• 2:34:58
  guys besides a 19 year old Juan Soto and Max Scherzer, that's
• 2:35:02
  all they really. Because remember Strasburg was
• 2:35:05
  not healthy that year. So they didn't have really the
• 2:35:08
  pitching stuff you would have thought they were going to have
• 2:35:10
  over the years with Strasburg and Scherzer, that 1-2 punch
• 2:35:13
  that you would but expected they were going to be just so
• 2:35:15
  dominant. And that, by the way, that that
• 2:35:18
  roster, when it comes to their bullpen when they won, was
• 2:35:21
  absolutely horrible. Yeah, they had a lot of.
• 2:35:23
  Random was horrible. And there were a lot of random
• 2:35:25
  over performers that year before that, they were always
• 2:35:27
  struggling in the playoffs because of their bullpen.
• 2:35:29
  A lot of the time Nathan mentioned in the in the private
• 2:35:31
  chat Drew store and he was one of them that it seemed like he
• 2:35:33
  was always allowing in the 9th inning a lot of home runs to
• 2:35:36
  teams that again weren't home run hitting teams.
• 2:35:38
  Those were a 97 win national team in 2012 that lost to a very
• 2:35:41
  scrappy Cardinals team. There was a the Giants beat them
• 2:35:44
  I think when they were a 98 win team in 2014.
• 2:35:47
  So it took them a while to get there and then all of a sudden
• 2:35:49
  as underdogs, sometimes teams just do Bender as underdogs.
• 2:35:52
  They have one of the best underdog runs.
• 2:35:53
  They beat a Brewers team that was very good.
• 2:35:55
  They came back off the hater and the bat bullpen.
• 2:35:58
  They beat the Dodgers. They beat a cheating Astros
• 2:36:00
  team. Like they beat a lot of really
• 2:36:02
  good teams that year. And again, I, I see that
• 2:36:04
  everybody is going to take shots at certain players like Granton.
• 2:36:09
  That was there. I, I like Granton as a National.
• 2:36:12
  He was a good third baseman. He was an All Star third baseman
• 2:36:14
  with the Nationals. Yes, we're we're eventually
• 2:36:18
  leaving the organization, I think went to the Angels.
• 2:36:20
  I mean, he did steal from the Angels.
• 2:36:22
  But again, it's an organization. The Angels have been an
• 2:36:25
  organization that takes on players and over paced players
• 2:36:28
  and they never banned out. So it's not it's not, it's not
• 2:36:32
  his fault that he went to the organization and got paid that
• 2:36:34
  kind of money. You, you don't go after players
• 2:36:37
  that you know, don't have the love that you thought they had
• 2:36:40
  for the game of baseball. Now, I will say this before we
• 2:36:43
  move on to King of the hell, the Nationals organization are set
• 2:36:48
  up very well. Now, we'll see how these guys
• 2:36:51
  turn out as players, all right? I don't know what they're going
• 2:36:55
  to turn out to be. I mean, Wood looks like he's
• 2:36:58
  going to be a star. We've heard.
• 2:37:00
  What's his name again? Come on the show last week.
• 2:37:03
  Towers. Towers come in and like, it was
• 2:37:05
  like, like sweating all over and wanting to come in his pants.
• 2:37:09
  On on Jamie. Yeah.
• 2:37:10
  Because he was. She was on the Orioles.
• 2:37:12
  But I'm going to tell you, I don't know what Mackenzie Gore
• 2:37:14
  is going to be, Gray or Abraham's they're going to be.
• 2:37:18
  We got to see what these guys going to be.
• 2:37:20
  I don't care what they've done in one year.
• 2:37:22
  I want to see what they do in a 5 to 10 year span.
• 2:37:24
  When they become the players that we think they're going to
• 2:37:27
  be, then we can come over and and argue our points.
• 2:37:30
  That's all I mean. And allegedly the second best
• 2:37:32
  prospect in that Soto trade is another outfielder, Robert
• 2:37:34
  Hassell. They haven't even called up yet.
• 2:37:37
  But whatever, I I just think obviously the National Center
• 2:37:40
  organization, that's just an absolute joke and, and a debacle
• 2:37:43
  and hopefully they figure it out and, and put the right guy at
• 2:37:47
  the helm because the wrong person.
• 2:37:49
  Reach out to the Yankees. What what's her name again?
• 2:37:51
  That was running the Marlins. Yeah.
• 2:37:52
  Why don't you hire Ink? She's great.
• 2:37:54
  She did a great job with the Marlins before she stepped down.
• 2:37:57
  She hasn't been hired yet. Reach out to the Yankees or
• 2:37:59
  reach out to her and see if she's available to to talk to.
• 2:38:03
  So I I think they. I think you thought she was
• 2:38:05
  thinking like you. She was going to like be a
• 2:38:06
  Yankees predecessor for a while. I remember that.
• 2:38:09
  All right, let's let's go to King of the Hill.
• 2:38:11
  And here's the King of the Hill. This, Bobby, is the Beltline.
• 2:38:15
  You never ever hit below that. Not that kind of King of the
• 2:38:19
  hill, you dumb ready. Are you ready?
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  This is King of the Hill. OK guys, welcome to King of the
• 2:38:28
  Hill. I guess Tommy's out, so we need.
• 2:38:30
  I like anal. For this one, here it is guys,
• 2:38:35
  King of the Hill. We are of a trivia contest to
• 2:38:37
  see if someone can dethrone the King.
• 2:38:40
  King. Errol once again, I think
• 2:38:42
  Errol's only lost. Carl plays with himself.
• 2:38:46
  Despite all of the playing with himself by Carl, he has not won.
• 2:38:49
  It was only King Zach. Let's get Zach, the former king.
• 2:38:53
  I think it's going to take this one off.
• 2:38:55
  So I think we're going to go with Jake and or Zach is going
• 2:38:59
  to come in on this. Who's who's the Aaron?
• 2:39:00
  'S Oh no, I was just coming in because I thought you said my
• 2:39:03
  name. I bet.
• 2:39:03
  I did. Oh, nice haircut.
• 2:39:05
  Zach, Jake and Aaron come in. They're going to be the
• 2:39:07
  competitors tonight, along with Jabba and Speedy.
• 2:39:13
  I will take my spot over here for King of the Hill.
• 2:39:17
  It's only going to be 4 in this round.
• 2:39:18
  That's how we're going to do it from now on.
• 2:39:20
  Baseball is the theme tonight. Are you guys ready to play?
• 2:39:24
  All right, here we go with the first round.
• 2:39:27
  King of the Hill. Here it is, peasant fight, best
• 2:39:34
  catchers of all time. So we're looking for people who
• 2:39:39
  were primarily catchers their entire career, not played for
• 2:39:44
  like one season at catcher, was a great player.
• 2:39:46
  All right, That is the only rule.
• 2:39:49
  We will get it set up. We will start like we're reading
• 2:39:53
  Hebrew from right to left. We'll go with Jake then followed
• 2:39:57
  by Jabba, Aaron and Speedy for two for round one.
• 2:40:00
  Jake. All right, so for my first pick,
• 2:40:04
  I'm gonna go for an old one. I definitely wasn't alive for
• 2:40:06
  it, but I'm gonna go to Yogi Berra, Hall of Famer, multi time
• 2:40:10
  MVP and All Star and 10 World Series.
• 2:40:13
  That's that's pretty ridiculous. But yeah, pretty much like Bill
• 2:40:17
  Russell just won all championships back in the day.
• 2:40:19
  So I'm gonna go with the Yogi Berra.
• 2:40:21
  Jabba. I'm going to go, you know what,
• 2:40:26
  because he was one of my teammates and I grew up watching
• 2:40:29
  him. I'm going to go Pudge.
• 2:40:30
  Ivan Rodriguez kind of made throwing runners out sexy, other
• 2:40:34
  than he called a fastball away every time the runner was on
• 2:40:37
  1st. And it pissed me off.
• 2:40:39
  But kind of just one of those guys that kind of epitomized
• 2:40:44
  that position. Yeah, they were, they were guys
• 2:40:46
  throwing runners out. But at the rate that he did it,
• 2:40:48
  nobody, nobody did it as prolific as he did.
• 2:40:51
  And you know, he could swing the bat a little bit too.
• 2:40:54
  Who knows? Maybe he did steroids too.
• 2:40:55
  Who knows who hasn't? Whatever.
• 2:40:57
  But yeah, he's got to be up there.
• 2:40:59
  Aaron. I'm going to go with the with an
• 2:41:02
  oldie. I obviously wasn't going for
• 2:41:04
  this, but Johnny Bench considered one of the best
• 2:41:06
  catchers in baseball with the Cincinnati Reds.
• 2:41:08
  I mean, obviously you just hear Johnny Bench and you and you
• 2:41:11
  know what you're talking about, right?
• 2:41:13
  With with the Reds, like I said, with P Rose in the mid 70s is
• 2:41:16
  the epitome of what a catcher should be.
• 2:41:18
  And like I said, you say his name and you know when he was
• 2:41:20
  right away. So I'm going to go with Johnny
• 2:41:22
  Bench. Excellent speedy for two.
• 2:41:24
  Alright, I'll go with 1 old school and then 11 new school.
• 2:41:27
  Obviously I'll go as a Mets fan. Mike Piazza will arguably the
• 2:41:30
  best home run hitting definitely.
• 2:41:32
  School. No, no, no.
• 2:41:33
  No, the second one is old school.
• 2:41:34
  This ones the new school. No Mike Piazza, obviously one of
• 2:41:37
  the better power hitting catchers in his era too.
• 2:41:40
  Did it for a very long time, even when he was before, he was
• 2:41:42
  with the Mets, with the Dodgers as well and with the Marlins was
• 2:41:44
  very consistent throughout his career hitting wise.
• 2:41:47
  So he's the first one and then I'll go with an old school one.
• 2:41:49
  Same era, a little bit before with Yogi Berra is Brooklyn
• 2:41:53
  Dodgers, Roy Campanella, one of the better catchers in that era
• 2:41:55
  as well. Be great with many Hall of Fame
• 2:41:57
  pitchers calling the game is one of the biggest things with
• 2:42:00
  catchers. To be able to have those kinds
• 2:42:01
  of connections with the pitchers too and still have some good
• 2:42:03
  offensive numbers for that era as well.
• 2:42:06
  Excellent. Moving back the other way, Round
• 2:42:08
  2 Aaron I'm. Going to go with the new school
• 2:42:11
  one someone I look watched a couple years ago Buster Posey
• 2:42:15
  Buster Posey is considered probably very early up there one
• 2:42:18
  of the best catchers in baseball at least for his time as well.
• 2:42:21
  We would be time with series champion with the Giants again,
• 2:42:24
  they pitting me or what a catch should should do behind the
• 2:42:27
  plate. And if from the seat put one of
• 2:42:29
  those rules in with with that big plate at the plate where he
• 2:42:33
  he had broken his leg or or whatever it was, but was
• 2:42:36
  supposedly. I mean, it's just a great, great
• 2:42:38
  athlete. He's done what he has to do now
• 2:42:41
  and with the still with the Giants and off front off the
• 2:42:44
  spot. I mean, he's just considered one
• 2:42:46
  of the best catchers honestly. Jabba Sorry, Speedy, but I'm
• 2:42:50
  taking Gary Carter. Just I, I I loved watching Gary
• 2:42:55
  Carter and I was I was short and fat.
• 2:42:59
  So I was a catcher for for most of my high school career.
• 2:43:02
  So there was it was a position that was was huge.
• 2:43:04
  I mean, when basically single handedly won game five of the
• 2:43:07
  World Series in 86 played for 19 years.
• 2:43:11
  And and to do it at that position to play that long is,
• 2:43:14
  is pretty impressive. 11 time All Star number retired just one
• 2:43:20
  of those guys that he, you know, you could root for and, you
• 2:43:23
  know, loved, loved watching and they called him the kid and you
• 2:43:26
  know, he played like that and it was it was always fun to to
• 2:43:30
  watch him play. Jake.
• 2:43:33
  For. 2. All right, so for my second pick
• 2:43:36
  I'm going to go with Yadir Molina, multi time All Star
• 2:43:40
  couple World Series, 9 golden gloves and then 4 platinum
• 2:43:45
  gloves. So it pretty much just
• 2:43:46
  epitomizes defense and what you need from a catcher.
• 2:43:49
  Someone just, you know, always going to be reliable and always
• 2:43:52
  going to be force back there, you know, just watching
• 2:43:55
  everything and calling things out.
• 2:43:57
  But he was fantastic. And then for my last pick, I'm
• 2:44:00
  going to go a little bit of Homer here, a little bit of our
• 2:44:02
  new school. I'm going to JT Romuto.
• 2:44:04
  He pretty much is a, you know, a solid player.
• 2:44:06
  He's been doing that for a long time, started with Miami, comes
• 2:44:10
  up here to Philly. He's been saw a defensive
• 2:44:12
  player, you know, decent hitter here and there.
• 2:44:14
  He's had great moments, especially during that miracle
• 2:44:16
  run we almost had to the World Series.
• 2:44:18
  Didn't quite get it done, but he had a lot of collective moments
• 2:44:20
  in that series. So that's for my birthday.
• 2:44:23
  All right, back to Java. I'm I'm going to go as a Homer
• 2:44:27
  myself too, because I was a Braves fan and I'm going to go
• 2:44:32
  with Javi Lopez. I think this one for me is is
• 2:44:37
  kind of twofold. Obviously won a World Series in
• 2:44:40
  95. They won the division 15 years
• 2:44:43
  in a row, only won it one year. But to be able to navigate those
• 2:44:47
  arms and to be able to have the opportunity to catch all the
• 2:44:51
  goes those guys and to see the this side Youngs and everything
• 2:44:56
  that he did, he was he was the Puerto Rican athlete of the year
• 2:44:59
  for four straight years. So it goes deeper than, you
• 2:45:02
  know, just obviously playing here.
• 2:45:05
  He became Greg Maddox's personal catcher has caught no hitters.
• 2:45:09
  He was the National League MVP and I just I am I'm a Braves
• 2:45:14
  Homer. So he, he, he goes down for me.
• 2:45:17
  Aaron. Yeah, I'm gonna go with another
• 2:45:20
  one that I watched growing up, Joe Joe Mauer.
• 2:45:23
  I mean, again, someone that is always, it was consistent behind
• 2:45:26
  the plate, catching for whoever was pitching with the Twins, won
• 2:45:30
  an MVP, was recently inducted into Hall of Fame.
• 2:45:33
  Look, a lot of people can say he's overrated, but he's
• 2:45:36
  definitely, he's definitely up there with what he did.
• 2:45:37
  It consists while he's playing and in his era.
• 2:45:40
  So I'll stick with Joe Mauer. Speedy.
• 2:45:42
  All right. I'll go with one that was gone
• 2:45:44
  too soon, unfortunately, but had a very good peak in his career.
• 2:45:47
  That was Thurman Munson, one of the better catchers in that in
• 2:45:50
  the 70s, late 60s, early 70s. And again, his offensive
• 2:45:53
  numbers. If he again what happened to
• 2:45:55
  him, very unfortunate. If that didn't happen, could
• 2:45:57
  have been the best among the position.
• 2:46:00
  All right, Errol, that's everybody.
• 2:46:02
  I didn't think I heard. I don't think I heard someone
• 2:46:04
  say Carlton Fisk. I was a little surprised by
• 2:46:06
  that, but not. Making a Red Sox.
• 2:46:08
  Well, I mean, he played a couple of places, but famous, famous
• 2:46:11
  home run, as you know, for the Red Sox.
• 2:46:13
  He's known as a Red Sox. I thought I thought somebody
• 2:46:17
  might go Bill Dickey. Yeah, you can go all the way
• 2:46:20
  back to Bill Dickey. That would have been a good one
• 2:46:22
  too. But Errol, who you picking to
• 2:46:23
  move on to the? Joust all right, so I like
• 2:46:28
  Jake's picks. I like Aaron's picks, but I'm
• 2:46:31
  I'm going to go speedy definitely is moving on.
• 2:46:33
  I mean, I don't think you can argue that every single one one
• 2:46:37
  of the guys that Speedy picked our Hall of Famers and and some
• 2:46:40
  of the greatest catches we we can have.
• 2:46:42
  And I love Yogi Berra and I love Yogi Berra too.
• 2:46:44
  So I want to go with Jake, but I'm going to give Jabba.
• 2:46:48
  I want Jabba. I want to see what Jabba could
• 2:46:49
  do in the next round. He's a baseball guy.
• 2:46:52
  Let's see what he can do against Speedy in the second round.
• 2:46:54
  So I'm going to go job and Speedy.
• 2:46:56
  All right, our interns are both eliminated in the first round
• 2:47:00
  today. Well, let's move on to Round 2,
• 2:47:03
  the joust. And here it is boys.
• 2:47:05
  This is, I'm pretty proud of this category, best double play
• 2:47:09
  combos of all time. So you got to tell me the second
• 2:47:13
  baseman and the shortstop and the team obviously probably
• 2:47:18
  played for a number of years together.
• 2:47:21
  All right, here we go back at it.
• 2:47:24
  And on this one, Errol, tell us who you think should begin.
• 2:47:28
  I'm going to go Java. All right, Java, you go first,
• 2:47:31
  you're muted. You're muted.
• 2:47:35
  I'm going to go because I got to know him and I think the other
• 2:47:40
  one gets shunned. They did it for 19 years.
• 2:47:43
  That would be sweet. Lou Whitaker and Allen Treble to
• 2:47:48
  do it that long with one another once a Hall of Famer.
• 2:47:52
  I sweet lose in it for Detroit. But getting to know them and
• 2:47:57
  just see you could tell their camaraderie was just
• 2:47:59
  unbelievable and you know they would they would talk about one
• 2:48:03
  another and for 19 years to do it and they literally they hold
• 2:48:08
  the record for in Major League history because that's pretty
• 2:48:12
  unbelievable to do. And so that that one for me and
• 2:48:15
  kind of, you know, as a baseball fan to like get to see some of
• 2:48:20
  these guys and be able to like chat with them and like it
• 2:48:24
  brings the kid out and me and it was it's always fun.
• 2:48:26
  Like then you'd get to talk to, you know, guys like Al Kaline
• 2:48:29
  and like, I wish they would bring back old Timer's Day
• 2:48:32
  because that was one of my favorite days.
• 2:48:34
  But hopefully soon here and maybe maybe I'll go back because
• 2:48:38
  I'll be in my 40s at this point. So I said I'd never go back
• 2:48:41
  before I was 40. So so we're getting there.
• 2:48:44
  So. I hate that they got rid of that
• 2:48:46
  too all. Right.
• 2:48:47
  Yeah, it was, I mean, obviously the Covic thing and then
• 2:48:50
  everybody, well, what was happening was they weren't
• 2:48:53
  getting the younger generation of that.
• 2:48:56
  Now the kids that, you know, watched us grow up and I think
• 2:49:00
  they'll start to get it more if they would like I I definitely
• 2:49:02
  would come back now, you know, now that my son's in college
• 2:49:05
  and, you know, we're not chasing our kids around as much.
• 2:49:07
  So hopefully they do. I think it's, it's really cool.
• 2:49:10
  And you've seen other organizations kind of do
• 2:49:13
  something similar to it. So I think it's really cool.
• 2:49:16
  Before I get before I get my pick, I just want to bet to
• 2:49:18
  Jabba I was at because the Mets brought it back for the first
• 2:49:20
  time in a while too in 2022 and it was it was so funny.
• 2:49:23
  Like Daniel Murphy was playing it at like 3 years removed from
• 2:49:25
  one of his last Major League appearance.
• 2:49:27
  Was like, he's like. Just so much like faster than
• 2:49:30
  everyone else it was. Talk about a guy that got
• 2:49:32
  screwed, yeah. Another guy was with the
• 2:49:35
  Nationals. Yeah.
• 2:49:37
  All right. Let's keep going.
• 2:49:38
  Speedy. You're up, man.
• 2:49:39
  So I'm gonna go back to the same era that I mentioned a catcher
• 2:49:41
  for, and that was the 1950s Brooklyn Dodgers with Pee Wee
• 2:49:43
  Reese and Jackie Robinson. One of the best ones, one of the
• 2:49:46
  best overall infields in that time.
• 2:49:47
  Obviously Peewee's one of the best defensive shortstops we've
• 2:49:50
  ever seen as well. And then Jackie Robinson, just
• 2:49:52
  like great all around athlete as well.
• 2:49:55
  So 1950s Dodgers, those two. Take my first one.
• 2:49:57
  And for the second one, I'll go for the back to the 1970's, The
• 2:50:00
  Big Red Machine with Joe Morgan, Dave Concepcio.
• 2:50:03
  Damn it. There's another one Concepcio,
• 2:50:05
  and one of the most underrated shortstops ever.
• 2:50:08
  And Joe Morgan, one of the best overall second baseman we've
• 2:50:10
  ever seen. Speedy is good man.
• 2:50:13
  All right, Jabba, you're up for for two.
• 2:50:17
  I'm up for two. You know what, I'm going to go
• 2:50:22
  another one being a Homer. I am going to go Omar Visquel
• 2:50:25
  and Roberto Alamar. You've got almost 20 gold gloves
• 2:50:29
  between those guys. Kind of the the modern day Ozzy
• 2:50:34
  Smith of what Omar could do with the glove.
• 2:50:38
  I think second most old gloves by a Venezuelan.
• 2:50:45
  And then Robbie just didn't obviously wasn't with them as
• 2:50:48
  long as the duration wasn't. But some of the plays that those
• 2:50:51
  two made together and they they set a record one year for most
• 2:50:55
  double plays turned. And I think they had like a 982
• 2:50:59
  fielding percentage between the two.
• 2:51:01
  And they they got to everything. They weren't Sean Dunstan and
• 2:51:04
  Ryan Sandberg. Ryan Sandberg would Gator arm
• 2:51:06
  the shit so he can, he could keep his his fielding percentage
• 2:51:09
  up. So by the way.
• 2:51:11
  Oh yeah. And so, yes, but yeah, so that
• 2:51:17
  that's probably. And then I'm going to go, I
• 2:51:19
  mean, I have to. And it's it's Ozzie Smith and
• 2:51:23
  Tom her, Tom her obviously isn't the biggest name that you can
• 2:51:26
  get. But if you go look at Tom Herr's
• 2:51:28
  number, he was like, I wanted to go like the prototypical Braves
• 2:51:32
  fan, Jeff Blouser, Mark Lemke, because they were boring.
• 2:51:34
  But they made all the plays. They played together for, you
• 2:51:37
  know, 14 years. But yeah, Ozzie Smith and, and
• 2:51:41
  Tom Herr from, you know, the beginning of the 80s until 87
• 2:51:45
  and just just to see the way the wizard worked and how he made
• 2:51:49
  Tom Hur that much better. And, and in the way that they,
• 2:51:52
  they went about their business. It was, it was fun.
• 2:51:54
  I, I got to watch them as you know, they were done.
• 2:51:58
  And I was, I was a kid, but my dad was a huge Ozzy Smith fan.
• 2:52:01
  So I got it. I got to see all those
• 2:52:03
  highlights. So it was a a found appreciation
• 2:52:06
  of the things that he could do that I sure as hell couldn't do.
• 2:52:10
  All right, Speedy finish up the round.
• 2:52:11
  All right, as much as I can't can't stand this team, they were
• 2:52:15
  a very good infield and very good double play combo.
• 2:52:17
  The Phillies with Chase Utley and Jimmy Rollins.
• 2:52:20
  Definitely Rollins was one of the better defensive shortstops
• 2:52:23
  as I I couldn't stand that Phillies team as a Mets fan.
• 2:52:26
  The two collapses were still scarring to this day.
• 2:52:29
  But Utley again, well-rounded player all around and Jimmy
• 2:52:32
  Rollins, not a Hall of Famer but still one of the best.
• 2:52:35
  Fastest defensive shortstops range wise as well.
• 2:52:38
  All right, Errol, who is taking you on to become the next king?
• 2:52:46
  It's hard, man. That's hard.
• 2:52:47
  That's all hard. It's so there are a lot of good
• 2:52:52
  choices. It's so close.
• 2:52:54
  Both guys, I was going to throw you off and be like Jeter and
• 2:52:58
  Canoe, yeah. I'm surprised Speedy didn't say
• 2:53:01
  Ray Ordonez and Jeff Kent. I'm going to, I'm going to go
• 2:53:04
  with Jabba. Let's see what Jabba could do in
• 2:53:06
  the next round. I don't think Ken was really as
• 2:53:08
  good defensively and again. No, he wasn't.
• 2:53:10
  He raked though, No? He's among the best, like second
• 2:53:14
  baseman, like all around. Yeah, for sure.
• 2:53:16
  But his defense, I don't think was as good.
• 2:53:19
  I'm going to go with Jabba. Let's let's.
• 2:53:20
  Move. All right, everybody else come
• 2:53:22
  back in. We got the round to become the
• 2:53:24
  king coming right up right now. So let's get our voters in.
• 2:53:29
  I don't know why it keeps changing camera angles.
• 2:53:32
  Aaron can come back in. Here we go.
• 2:53:35
  And who are we missing? Missing one more person.
• 2:53:38
  Zach is not on camera right now. No, no, that's fine.
• 2:53:42
  Zach, you can come in on this. All right, The last rounds.
• 2:53:46
  Here we go. Biggest wrench.
• 2:53:50
  That's pretty funny. Oh.
• 2:53:52
  We could just, we could just do that.
• 2:53:54
  Instead of what I have the. Answers Patrick.
• 2:53:56
  So who? I have.
• 2:53:57
  There's no debate. All right, so this one is
• 2:54:01
  emotional. It could be either regular
• 2:54:04
  season or playoffs, but I want to know the worst collapses of
• 2:54:10
  all. These are teams I'll go #1 the
• 2:54:14
  New York Yankees, OK, that that that up three O Mariano Rivera
• 2:54:20
  on multiple times. You would have thought, hey, the
• 2:54:23
  Yankees are going to win the World Series.
• 2:54:25
  They had the best chance that year to go all the way with, you
• 2:54:29
  know, obviously Rodriguez, Derek Jeter, all those guys.
• 2:54:32
  And they choked. They let the Red Sox come back.
• 2:54:34
  And then Johnny Damon in Game 7 just put on a freaking show
• 2:54:39
  against the New York Yankees. So I'm going to go that that
• 2:54:44
  Yankee team, that Yankee collapse, horrible.
• 2:54:47
  You know what's funny about that too, Errol?
• 2:54:49
  Remember the movie Fever Pitch? Yes, yes.
• 2:54:52
  They had to redo the movie because they had them going down
• 2:54:55
  to lose, so they had to put it back in production.
• 2:54:57
  I know I because that's that's not how they ended it.
• 2:55:01
  All right, in this round, we're just going to go back and forth.
• 2:55:03
  Not like no one's going to go 2 times in a row.
• 2:55:05
  So Jabba, go ahead. I mean, I got to go.
• 2:55:08
  The 2017 Atlanta Falcons blowing A283 lead, right?
• 2:55:12
  And of course, it had to be to Tom Brady and losing it in
• 2:55:15
  overtime. I mean, just an absolute
• 2:55:17
  debacle. And you kind of just saw it
• 2:55:19
  unraveling between your eyes. And then you're just like, OK,
• 2:55:22
  well, it's just Tom Brady. He's got this.
• 2:55:24
  Oh, look what happens. Yeah, that one, that one was
• 2:55:28
  rough for the boys. If you're if you're an Atlanta
• 2:55:30
  fan, they're probably now going to celebrate the the All Star
• 2:55:33
  game there. But that one I think is is is
• 2:55:36
  cut deeper for a long time all. Right over to Errol.
• 2:55:39
  How about the Boston Red Sox in 1986, collapsing against the New
• 2:55:44
  York Mets? Remember that right through the
• 2:55:47
  wickets. I remember that as the New York
• 2:55:50
  Nets. That was the last time they won
• 2:55:51
  in a World Series in 1986. Doc Hood in Daryl Strawberry and
• 2:55:56
  and they have a 1-1 cents and that was the Boston Red Sox.
• 2:56:00
  Horrible, horrible loss the way they lost in that series.
• 2:56:03
  So I'm going to go that that that was the year 1986 Boston
• 2:56:07
  Red Sox. I'm going to I'm going to double
• 2:56:11
  up with you on that Errol, because you know, obviously I'm
• 2:56:14
  not a Red Sox fan. So I'm going to use the 2011 Red
• 2:56:17
  Sox when they lost 20 of 27 with a nine game lead in September
• 2:56:22
  and missed the playoffs entirely.
• 2:56:25
  Didn't even get there. Just an absolute epic fail.
• 2:56:29
  And we've seen it on both sides. We've seen when the Rockies won
• 2:56:31
  22 out of 27 to get to the playoffs and then obviously
• 2:56:36
  swept until every series, then get to the damn World Series and
• 2:56:40
  had like 2 weeks off and then get swept.
• 2:56:42
  But yeah, to be to lose 20 and 27 with the 9 cushion lead in
• 2:56:47
  September and not even make the playoffs like just missed it
• 2:56:51
  entirely, that is God awful. Jabba Was that the team that the
• 2:56:55
  Yankees swept them in like A5 game series because they had to
• 2:56:59
  make up 1 and there was like 5 games in a row they just took
• 2:57:02
  them to the woodshed. Because that's how they used to
• 2:57:04
  do it. They would put, they would back
• 2:57:06
  end all the like rain delays and you would literally lose your
• 2:57:10
  days off in September or they would, they would do a double
• 2:57:12
  header. But yeah, it was.
• 2:57:15
  Yeah, that was yeah, because that was.
• 2:57:17
  Five game sweep I remember. It was a 5 game sweep because
• 2:57:20
  yeah, I was in the bullpen that year.
• 2:57:23
  Bam. All right, let's go back to
• 2:57:24
  Errol. Well, I'm going to.
• 2:57:28
  I'm trying to go back because I had to remember the year and I
• 2:57:30
  found it. It was the 2011 Texas Rangers.
• 2:57:34
  Remember that? That absolute debacle against
• 2:57:38
  the Cardinals. I remember that.
• 2:57:41
  It was absolutely horrible losing the way they did.
• 2:57:44
  Lance Berkman, remember him. I I remember him very.
• 2:57:47
  Well, he was a. Yankee.
• 2:57:49
  Yes, he was. And he was the big reason why He
• 2:57:52
  was the big reason why the Cardinals came back in that
• 2:57:54
  series, series that was absolutely putrid, the way the
• 2:57:58
  Texas Rangers and Washington as he choked that once, but two
• 2:58:02
  years in a row, the way he did so the Texas Rangers.
• 2:58:07
  Right, Joe, last one we. Got to get got to get something.
• 2:58:11
  You know, you, you brought this up.
• 2:58:13
  So I think I'm probably going to going to go run with it.
• 2:58:18
  I'm going to go with John McEnroe.
• 2:58:21
  In the 84 French. He had won 42 matches in a row,
• 2:58:25
  which is the longest undefeated streak to start a tennis season.
• 2:58:29
  He had won thirteen titles. It was one away from the record
• 2:58:33
  for a Grand Slam that year. He was 21 and O and literally
• 2:58:37
  he's playing some dude that nobody knows and McEnroe gets
• 2:58:41
  upset losing both in the tie breaks and gets bumped after
• 2:58:46
  setting a record for the most wins to start in not only a
• 2:58:50
  season but in Grand Slam tennis. All right, it's time to vote.
• 2:58:56
  I'm going to go first. I'm going to pick Errol on this
• 2:58:59
  one. The Yankees collapse.
• 2:59:01
  It's hard to beat that one. I remember everything about that
• 2:59:05
  game in that series. There was a Ruben Sierra ground
• 2:59:08
  rule double that if it stayed in, the Yankees win that series.
• 2:59:11
  Ruben Sierra. Who could forget him as a
• 2:59:13
  Yankee? As an A's.
• 2:59:15
  It's bad bounce. You want to talk about wearing
• 2:59:17
  chains? Ruben Sierra would wear some
• 2:59:19
  chains. He.
• 2:59:19
  Could hit the ball. Too literally.
• 2:59:21
  Literally. If that ball doesn't bounce into
• 2:59:22
  the stands on that short fence, the Yankees win that game.
• 2:59:25
  That's all it was, all that needed to happen.
• 2:59:27
  But I thought Errol's picks really good.
• 2:59:30
  I like that Texas big the end. And what was your second pick
• 2:59:32
  again, Errol? You had.
• 2:59:34
  I went with the Red Sox. 8686 one of the most famous You know
• 2:59:40
  the most famous joke jobs of all time I got.
• 2:59:43
  If you notice I went all. Baseballs are great.
• 2:59:45
  Too, I went all baseball. I didn't want to look past that.
• 2:59:48
  I went. All yeah, you didn't have to.
• 2:59:49
  You could have said, like Greg Norman, you know, collapse.
• 2:59:52
  I don't look at that, I just remember what's in my hand.
• 2:59:54
  I'll pick the good word of the. Confidence.
• 2:59:56
  The only one. Lonely with the Oilers against
• 2:59:58
  the Bills, the. Only one that I did not remember
• 3:00:00
  the year was the Texas Ranchers. I had to look that up.
• 3:00:02
  But right. But the the the 2 ones that the
• 3:00:05
  the Yankees and the Red Sox, those were my 2 collapses that I
• 3:00:08
  definitely. Yeah, that's the 2011.
• 3:00:11
  I was. That was the other one too,
• 3:00:13
  because I was like I played during all of it and like you're
• 3:00:15
  watching it in front of your eyes.
• 3:00:16
  You're like, what is going? On they were the American League
• 3:00:18
  favorites that year. Yeah, yeah.
• 3:00:21
  All right, let's go to Zach. I'm gonna go with Errol too.
• 3:00:24
  I mean, I don't know much baseball, but I know about those
• 3:00:26
  collapses. So it's just you can't really
• 3:00:29
  know baseball and not know those collapses.
• 3:00:31
  So I'm just gonna go with Errol. He just had better picks in my
• 3:00:33
  opinion. So that's who I think.
• 3:00:36
  All right, Aaron. I mean, they both said it,
• 3:00:40
  Errol. I mean, you the two first picks,
• 3:00:42
  I mean, those are the first things you you learned when
• 3:00:45
  you're when you're growing up watching baseball is the 86 Red
• 3:00:47
  Sox. And then obviously I was born.
• 3:00:50
  I was only two years old when it happened, but 2004 Red Sox,
• 3:00:53
  Yeah, it's, I know, but it's, yeah, 80.
• 3:00:56
  Years old baby baby. All right, that clinches it for
• 3:01:01
  Arrow. Speedy, why don't you get tell
• 3:01:02
  us your breakdown? I was going to say that was AI.
• 3:01:05
  Love the tennis one at the end, Jabba that actually made it.
• 3:01:08
  I'm going to go with Arrow too, but that made a much closer.
• 3:01:10
  Like I thought the description of that was really good.
• 3:01:13
  I just like Arrow describing the O3.
• 3:01:16
  The O 4 Red Sox versus Yankees collapse was like it was going
• 3:01:19
  to be tough to beat after that. You put up a valiant effort, but
• 3:01:22
  I would have picked Arrow too. I believe we were calling that
• 3:01:26
  five game sweep, the Boston Massacre at the time because it
• 3:01:29
  was amazing. I.
• 3:01:30
  Don't I don't ever want to remember that year ever again.
• 3:01:34
  Ever. All right, Jake, finish it up.
• 3:01:36
  Oh damn, I was going to say I wish you guys let me go first.
• 3:01:38
  I was actually going to pick Jabba because to me, like if you
• 3:01:41
  want to talk about a collapse like that, Falcons pick against
• 3:01:44
  the Patriots. Like if you want to talk about
• 3:01:45
  ruining A franchise, like Atlanta has never gotten back
• 3:01:50
  from that ever since. Like sure, they've had seasons
• 3:01:52
  where they were mediocre, OK, but they have never reached that
• 3:01:55
  height ever again. So to me, like that's the
• 3:01:58
  epitome of a collapse when you just ruin everything great that
• 3:02:02
  you once had. It's all gone.
• 3:02:04
  But Congrats to Errol. But good job job.
• 3:02:07
  And all they had to do is run the ball.
• 3:02:09
  It's a shame O'harel gets to stay the King another week here
• 3:02:15
  on King of the. Hill.
• 3:02:16
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm just kidding.
• 3:02:20
  Anyways, let's go to a sports minute.
• 3:02:22
  Quick, we got Speedy 6 pack. Dial it up.
• 3:02:24
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• 3:02:26
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• 3:02:28
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• 3:02:52
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• 3:03:20
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• 3:04:14
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• 3:04:18
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• 3:04:24
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• 3:04:27
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• 3:04:30
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• 3:04:33
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• 3:04:45
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• 3:04:46
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• 3:04:50
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• 3:04:53
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• 3:04:56
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  The biggest signing this weekend, eight and a half,
• 3:08:47
  $1,000,000 per year. The the Hurricanes bringing in
• 3:08:50
  Nikolai Ehlers, the fast winger from the Winnipeg Jets.
• 3:08:53
  Good goal scorer, 6 years, $51 million deal.
• 3:08:56
  An organization that's been rumored for many different teams
• 3:08:59
  for players for a while. Obviously the big Mika Rottnest
• 3:09:01
  story. They could not keep him.
• 3:09:02
  They struck out on Gentzel. Is this their guy?
• 3:09:04
  Is it enough? We'll say.
• 3:09:06
  Why are you bringing in another player when you just need a
• 3:09:09
  goalie? You, you have a chance to go and
• 3:09:11
  spend some money on a goalie, you spend it on another forward.
• 3:09:13
  Makes no sense. Makes no sense #5 All right.
• 3:09:18
  We'll go to the New York Islanders.
• 3:09:19
  They win a bidding war for a highly touted prospect and a
• 3:09:22
  Maxim Chabanov. The Rangers ran on him too, as
• 3:09:24
  well as the Philadelphia Flyers, 57.57 points and I believe 67
• 3:09:29
  games in Russia last year, the most I think since that Karel
• 3:09:33
  Caprazov year. So Islanders win a bidding war,
• 3:09:36
  More young talent, more young forward talent going to the New
• 3:09:38
  York. Island absolute slam dunk this
• 3:09:42
  guy could be a forty goal scorer just so just say just.
• 3:09:45
  Want to let everybody know that? For the Islanders.
• 3:09:47
  Best Russian player they've had since Yashin go back that far.
• 3:09:51
  He's, he's good. He's going to be really, really
• 3:09:53
  good. And that I by the way, the story
• 3:09:56
  is him and Sarokin are very close and that's why he went
• 3:09:59
  there so. All right.
• 3:10:01
  Number. 4. And we'll round out hockey with
• 3:10:03
  the other end of the aisle of New York with the New York
• 3:10:06
  Rangers. Chris Drury, when he was asked
• 3:10:08
  about in our Tammy Panarin contract extension, he had no
• 3:10:11
  words. He dropped dead silent on that
• 3:10:14
  one year left on his deal. Obviously, there's the scandal
• 3:10:16
  with the with the with the Russian, with the whole the sex
• 3:10:19
  prostitution thing or whatever it was in 2023 that the Rangers
• 3:10:23
  brushed under the rug. But Chris Drury reluctant to
• 3:10:25
  sign him. Is it good?
• 3:10:26
  Is it bad? What do we got?
• 3:10:28
  Terrible. Absolutely terrible.
• 3:10:31
  He'll leave the Rangers and win another Stanley Cup.
• 3:10:33
  Typical. Typical.
• 3:10:35
  Rangers, they better get something for him if they're
• 3:10:37
  going to. They can't just get nothing.
• 3:10:38
  Chris. Drury is the worst.
• 3:10:40
  GM I'm going to say he like if there's any like 5 players not
• 3:10:43
  to blame for the Rangers Wolves last year Panera still did well
• 3:10:46
  enough. Where?
• 3:10:47
  They have to try. To get look look, does he drive
• 3:10:49
  you a little mad with like his defensive not giving a crap on
• 3:10:52
  the back check at times? Sure, but what he can do
• 3:10:56
  offensively is something that only about 10 guys in the world
• 3:10:58
  can do. So you got to pay that guy and
• 3:11:01
  you got to keep him around. He's that good.
• 3:11:03
  He's been here. That 2023 thing was the the
• 3:11:06
  leader of Russia trying to blackmail his family to get him
• 3:11:11
  in trouble. He did nothing wrong in that
• 3:11:13
  whole situation. It was trumped up bullshit.
• 3:11:16
  So I'm glad he's OK. I hope that the jury doesn't
• 3:11:19
  look at that as a reason not to keep them, because that would be
• 3:11:22
  probably the worst of all the reasons not to keep them.
• 3:11:24
  I don't think there are any good ones to be honest with you. #3
• 3:11:29
  All right. Let's shift to the NBA.
• 3:11:30
  We'll have a lot more insight on this on Thursday with our guest
• 3:11:33
  Bradley Beal and the Suns already discussing a buyer.
• 3:11:35
  And apparently the Miami Heat are already interested on
• 3:11:38
  jumping on him if he does get bought out.
• 3:11:41
  And then and the Lakers, naturally, Bradley Beal already
• 3:11:43
  said he wanted to play for the Lakers with the Suns trying to
• 3:11:45
  get it done quickly here. Bradley Beal on his way out
• 3:11:48
  looking very likely. Brad Beal.
• 3:11:53
  Yeah, I'm just gonna say it's, I felt like it was only a matter
• 3:11:56
  of time, but it's just going to where he ended up.
• 3:11:58
  Who gives a crap where Bradley? Beal goes honestly.
• 3:12:02
  Who cares? Everywhere he go it goes.
• 3:12:04
  He just absolutely ruins those teams so who cares?
• 3:12:07
  You know what it's going to be, though, It's going to be he's
• 3:12:09
  not going to be called Bradley Beal anymore.
• 3:12:11
  It's going to be the Bradley Beal trade exception because
• 3:12:14
  that's how he's going to be referred to as the only way that
• 3:12:16
  he's relevant for the next couple of years because he's
• 3:12:19
  just going to be a big contract. The teams are constantly moving
• 3:12:22
  so they can make deals work for guys that make their team
• 3:12:24
  better. Not even in the near term,
• 3:12:26
  because if you're taking on Bill's contract, you're not
• 3:12:29
  getting much for it right now. #2 all.
• 3:12:32
  Right, The one that broke kind of before the show, the Orlando
• 3:12:35
  Magic giving Paulo Banqueiro A5 year 287.
• 3:12:39
  It's the rookie Max contract. And put into perspective when
• 3:12:42
  the Grizzlies gave John Moran to rookie Max contract, it was five
• 3:12:45
  years, two O 7, and it's gone up even more since then.
• 3:12:48
  So is it too much money? No, he's a Duke guy.
• 3:12:52
  He's a great player. He's the franchise of the
• 3:12:54
  organization that is trying to bring in another superstar to
• 3:12:57
  play with them. It's a perfect fit.
• 3:12:59
  You got to pay him because if they don't pay him, somebody
• 3:13:02
  else will. So I I think it's a good move
• 3:13:04
  for the Orlando Magic. I don't know why anybody would
• 3:13:06
  argue that he doesn't deserve. Oh, he's just, yeah, he's
• 3:13:08
  tremendous when player, player, when he's healthy, top 20
• 3:13:10
  player. That's just hoping you can stay
• 3:13:11
  healthy at that point. But if you want to get a
• 3:13:13
  superstar, you got to have your a good.
• 3:13:15
  Player so they're trying they're trying to spike it up.
• 3:13:17
  They're trying to get the obviously the salary cap is
• 3:13:19
  going to continue to increase in the NBA and they're banking on
• 3:13:22
  that being a bargain let down the road.
• 3:13:24
  Well, yeah. And did you see two if he gets
• 3:13:26
  like player of the year or MVP or something that goes up
• 3:13:29
  another 30%, Yeah. He can go up to 287.
• 3:13:33
  He. Will definitely be a first NBA
• 3:13:37
  player, maybe not first or second NBA team player.
• 3:13:41
  That's the type of player he is. From what I understood, he only
• 3:13:43
  has to do it one time. As soon as he gets that one time
• 3:13:46
  then it goes up. But it doesn't.
• 3:13:47
  It doesn't accrue like OK, now you get a 60%, it's just a one
• 3:13:51
  time if you hit it 30%. They're going for it next year
• 3:13:54
  that that E is wide open. There's no reason why they
• 3:13:56
  shouldn't go for it. They're surrounding it with
• 3:13:58
  shooters now. I think they're doing a smart
• 3:14:00
  job and you got to pay the man who is a centerpiece.
• 3:14:03
  Makes a lot of sense. Number one all.
• 3:14:06
  Right, last one. There are rumors from Luca
• 3:14:07
  Doncic's camp that he might be seeking a shorter contract with
• 3:14:11
  the Lakers and maybe banking for one more contract in free
• 3:14:13
  agency. He's eligible for four years and
• 3:14:15
  2:48 this offseason if the Lakers want to give it to him.
• 3:14:18
  But Luca might be thinking otherwise.
• 3:14:20
  And the rumors we were talking about last week, the new
• 3:14:22
  ownership might want to build around Luca.
• 3:14:24
  Maybe they got to do it a little differently.
• 3:14:26
  Listen to the name, guys. Listen to the team, the Boston
• 3:14:30
  Celtics. I don't think it's hidden or
• 3:14:33
  even a thought in his mind that that's a place that he would be
• 3:14:36
  looking at right now. Brad Stevens is a smart man.
• 3:14:39
  He knows he's trying to save money.
• 3:14:41
  He's trying to push money outside of Boston right now.
• 3:14:44
  He knows Jason Tatum is out for the season.
• 3:14:47
  They're going to have a season where they're going to be a
• 3:14:49
  borderline back and forth playoff team.
• 3:14:52
  This is not going to be their year.
• 3:14:54
  Bet on Luka Doncic being a player that the Boston Celtics
• 3:14:58
  could be gunning for. The Lakers are going to trade
• 3:15:01
  with the Celtics. No, I, I, he's going to be a
• 3:15:04
  free agent. He's going to go to free agency.
• 3:15:05
  They're not going to trade him. He's going to go to free agency.
• 3:15:09
  I mean, they can't let him go for nothing if if he's going to
• 3:15:11
  leave, they got to do something you would do.
• 3:15:13
  You know who runs the Lakers right now, right?
• 3:15:15
  You know who's running the Lakers, right?
• 3:15:17
  It's not Genie Boss. It's not anything.
• 3:15:19
  You know who's running the Lakers?
• 3:15:20
  The Dodgers owner. No, the GM of the Lakers right
• 3:15:24
  now. It's not Genie Bus.
• 3:15:26
  No. A pelinka.
• 3:15:27
  Pelinka. And he is a horrible GM.
• 3:15:30
  He does not know what he's doing.
• 3:15:32
  So he is that stupid to let him go to free agency.
• 3:15:35
  So yeah, he'll probably do a John Tavar.
• 3:15:37
  So he'll say, yeah, I'll sign with the Lakers and then in the
• 3:15:40
  offseason say, yeah, I'm not signing with you guys.
• 3:15:42
  Goodbye. You know, so that's what he's
• 3:15:44
  going to do. That has been yet another great
• 3:15:46
  6 pack with speedy PD. Right.
• 3:15:50
  I will say this, and for all you Laker fans out there that are
• 3:15:54
  crying about this Luca Doncic thing, at least you got him for
• 3:15:58
  another year or two and then. Isn't it?
• 3:16:00
  Isn't it two years? Yeah, a year or two.
• 3:16:04
  Next year, they're gonna be he's there Are people going to say
• 3:16:07
  that he should sign the extension?
• 3:16:08
  He's not signing any extension. He's going to go to free agency
• 3:16:11
  and he's going to spin the wheel, make the deal and the
• 3:16:13
  Lakers are going to have nothing to say.
• 3:16:15
  And then they can move him all he wants.
• 3:16:16
  He's still going to go to free agency.
• 3:16:18
  He's not signing any contract. I don't think he wants to be a
• 3:16:21
  Laker. And I I think obviously the bus
• 3:16:22
  family doesn't own the team anymore.
• 3:16:24
  They don't give a crap. All right, ladies and gentlemen,
• 3:16:26
  we call this Dial it Up. We interrupt this regularly
• 3:16:29
  scheduled hot makes to bring an important news.
• 3:16:32
  We got a. Big broadcast to do here.
• 3:16:34
  We're about to dial it up. It up.
• 3:16:38
  All right, guys, This is our Lightning Round news segment
• 3:16:43
  where we got five stories that Errol has not been shown and
• 3:16:46
  he's going to have to dial up a take and then one of us will
• 3:16:50
  comment on his take. Are you right guys ready?
• 3:16:53
  To dial it up. Yes, no.
• 3:16:56
  Maybe so. Let's take a dump.
• 3:16:58
  Let's. Go.
• 3:16:59
  Here we go, Errol. First story, The Steelers give
• 3:17:02
  general manager Omar Khan a new three-year deal.
• 3:17:08
  This was an extension, so it's actually four years on on
• 3:17:11
  Saturday, I guess it was announced on Saturday, it
• 3:17:13
  happened on Thursday. Khan has been active this
• 3:17:15
  offseason, acquiring DK Metcalf, Jalen Ramsey, Jonnu Smith and
• 3:17:19
  quarterback Aaron Rodgers. I believe we are building a
• 3:17:23
  championship roster and look forward to the 2025 season and
• 3:17:27
  beyond as our goals continue to be to bring another Super Bowl
• 3:17:32
  to the city of Pittsburgh and our great fans, said Khan, who
• 3:17:35
  has been his 25th year with the Steelers franchise.
• 3:17:38
  He's been GM just the past since 20, 22, when he succeeded Kevin
• 3:17:43
  Colbert. So the question really is, is
• 3:17:45
  Khan building a bright future in Pittsburgh or is he a con
• 3:17:51
  artist? Errol.
• 3:17:53
  Dial it up. Well, it's pretty serious.
• 3:17:56
  Now I'm going to set everybody on fire because you signed the
• 3:18:02
  one and only DK Metcalf and you will not and have not given TJ
• 3:18:07
  Watt his extension and his big contract.
• 3:18:10
  This guy should be making 4550 million.
• 3:18:13
  If Miles Garrett's making that money, all these guys are making
• 3:18:16
  big. Mucho De Niro and your best
• 3:18:19
  player, your superstar player is still sitting in the offseason
• 3:18:22
  waiting for that big contract. This guy brought in Aaron
• 3:18:26
  Rodgers. OK, you had Russell W Russell
• 3:18:30
  Wilson there. You also had Justin Fields
• 3:18:32
  there, guys Justin Fields who you let go to The Jets because
• 3:18:36
  you decided to start Russell Wilson over him when you were
• 3:18:39
  four and two. Your organization is a joke.
• 3:18:41
  You're never going to win it, by the way.
• 3:18:43
  Eight straight seasons, eight first round exits.
• 3:18:48
  Khan should have never gotten an extension and Mike Tomlin could
• 3:18:51
  be on his way out as well after they choked in this year with
• 3:18:54
  the great Aaron Rodgers. And by the way, TJ, don't sign
• 3:18:58
  the contract. Sit back, relax and make sure
• 3:19:01
  that everybody enjoys the show. When you get paid the biggest
• 3:19:04
  contract in defensive football history, when you get $50
• 3:19:08
  million, so. Yeah, there's really not a lot
• 3:19:11
  of things you could justify this type of move with a lot of just
• 3:19:14
  replacing guys with either slight upgrades or question
• 3:19:17
  marks when it came to character or a little bit of both.
• 3:19:20
  In the case of DK Metcalf, obviously he's a better receiver
• 3:19:22
  on paper than George Pickens, but he's still very loud.
• 3:19:25
  You bring in Jalen Ramsey, who played well in Miami the last
• 3:19:29
  two years, is he definitively an upgrade over Minka Fitzpatrick
• 3:19:32
  talent wise? I don't think so.
• 3:19:33
  I think Minka Fitzpatrick's versatility is there.
• 3:19:35
  Yes, he's healthier. Yes, he's very good outside.
• 3:19:38
  It's not a definitive upgrade. And then there's Aaron Rodgers,
• 3:19:40
  which yes, he's like talent upgrade maybe over Russell
• 3:19:43
  Wilson. And he is a loud mouth in the
• 3:19:45
  locker room that drives these teams down.
• 3:19:48
  It just really doesn't make any sense to trust.
• 3:19:50
  It can't be anything better than just mediocrity at this point.
• 3:19:54
  I would say 9:00 and 8:00 at and I can't even trust that right
• 3:19:57
  now and. You're Kenny Pickett.
• 3:19:59
  Kenny Pickett. I could go on and on and on.
• 3:20:02
  The quarterbacks that he was after Ben Roethlisberger, he's
• 3:20:05
  been an absolute bust for trying to find veteran quarterbacks to
• 3:20:08
  come in or even quarterbacks that Mason Rudolph.
• 3:20:12
  Are you kidding me? Get out of here.
• 3:20:14
  This guy shouldn't got it, shouldn't have gotten a three,
• 3:20:16
  three-year extension. You have TJ Watt, the best
• 3:20:19
  defensive player in the league, and you still haven't extended
• 3:20:22
  him and you give DK Metcalf a guy that you didn't even draft
• 3:20:25
  the money that. You gave him what a joke.
• 3:20:28
  And I was very critical of Kolbert too, but I thought he
• 3:20:30
  had a lot of really bad moves at the end of his tenure before he
• 3:20:33
  before he stepped down in 2022. But it's not like you're
• 3:20:35
  justifying to say that Khan is like doing anything this massive
• 3:20:39
  improvements. All right, guys, let's move on
• 3:20:43
  to the next story here coming up.
• 3:20:46
  Oh, here's a great picture. An old man found the mermaid.
• 3:20:49
  Yes, it's Bill Belichick girlfriend who's apparently now
• 3:20:53
  blocking wrestling transfers. Jabba, you're going to love this
• 3:20:57
  one. Nebraska wrestling coach Mark
• 3:21:01
  Madden made some waves on Friday when he claimed there were some
• 3:21:05
  issues when an athlete was trying to transfer to UNC from
• 3:21:09
  Nebraska on his wrestling team because of head football coach
• 3:21:13
  Bill Belichick's girlfriend Jordan Hudson.
• 3:21:17
  Rob Cole, the North Carolina coach who I've known for 35
• 3:21:20
  years and is a great friend of mine, called me up when they
• 3:21:23
  didn't let AJ into the school at North Carolina and AJ was
• 3:21:27
  already there training some and they didn't let him in in
• 3:21:30
  mission wise for various reasons.
• 3:21:33
  And Bill Belichick's girlfriend had something to do with that.
• 3:21:38
  Manning believes Hudson made sure he didn't come to the
• 3:21:41
  university because of an incident in high school where he
• 3:21:43
  filmed in the other underage friends having sex.
• 3:21:46
  It was it was just an incident. There was no punishment when he
• 3:21:50
  got to the college ranks from that.
• 3:21:52
  There are no. He claims that Hudson also
• 3:21:54
  impacted the status of a potential basketball player at
• 3:21:59
  UNC in a similar way. Not even football.
• 3:22:03
  Now it's affecting the great university in Nebraska.
• 3:22:06
  Jabba time for Errol. First of all, Bill Belichick's
• 3:22:12
  wife, girlfriend, whatever she is slut is out there doing
• 3:22:16
  whatever she's doing over there on a football field.
• 3:22:19
  She should not be getting involved with any of the other
• 3:22:22
  programs. The fact that she is just shows
• 3:22:25
  you one thing. Bill Belichick has no control
• 3:22:27
  over her or her. You know what?
• 3:22:30
  Her vagina. Her vagina shakes and North
• 3:22:32
  Carolina listens, and as far as I'm concerned, she should not be
• 3:22:37
  speaking and she should not be a point of any kind of return when
• 3:22:42
  everybody knows that this woman doesn't know what the hell she's
• 3:22:45
  talking about. She knows nothing about sports
• 3:22:47
  and all she does is get on her hands and knees and sucks Billy
• 3:22:50
  off. I am so tired of hearing about
• 3:22:53
  this girl. She can look the part, do
• 3:22:55
  whatever she wants. Shakes her boobies, shakes her
• 3:22:58
  ass. I could give a rat's ass.
• 3:23:02
  Stay away from the game of football.
• 3:23:04
  Stay away from sports. You don't know what you're doing
• 3:23:06
  and you're ruining your man's name, which has been built as a
• 3:23:11
  sacred point on a sacred part of professional football.
• 3:23:16
  Yeah, it, it doesn't really makes sense to me in any any
• 3:23:21
  way, shape or form. Like, OK, So what technically is
• 3:23:24
  her title? Bill Belichick's chick side
• 3:23:28
  piece slut arm candy? Like, I don't, I mean, I don't
• 3:23:32
  know. I don't know her.
• 3:23:33
  So I will not refer to her as that because it's I don't know
• 3:23:35
  her. I don't.
• 3:23:36
  You don't have to, right? I'll tell.
• 3:23:38
  You she's, But she's the second runner up for Miss Maine.
• 3:23:41
  That is the only title I know for her.
• 3:23:43
  Right, creamy and so. But you.
• 3:23:45
  You as Bill Belichick in and what you've created.
• 3:23:49
  For yourself. Why?
• 3:23:52
  Why are you even allowing her to be involved in any way, shape or
• 3:23:55
  form with any of this? Like just shut your mouth like
• 3:23:57
  this has nothing to do with you. Why are you trying to make in
• 3:24:01
  input on other sports that have nothing to do with what your man
• 3:24:05
  is even coaching? Like it's wrestling and
• 3:24:07
  basketball and it's like and and why is North Carolina?
• 3:24:11
  Why are they allowing it like this?
• 3:24:15
  It smells like shit and we're not there yet.
• 3:24:18
  Yeah, Jabba, I was even going to say, I'm pretty sure that UNC
• 3:24:21
  had the deal this year to do in season.
• 3:24:24
  Hard Knocks, that's what. She said no.
• 3:24:27
  Yeah, there was just she pretty much got them like they like
• 3:24:29
  during the interview, I'm pretty sure UNC, which is like we're
• 3:24:32
  not dealing with this, like we're just going to cancel.
• 3:24:33
  Doesn't he look like Dracula? You know, and I was talking
• 3:24:38
  about Adam Silver when I said he looked like Dracula.
• 3:24:41
  That's called sex down clip that one.
• 3:24:43
  I think we're talking to speedy, but Jake, I I think we actually
• 3:24:47
  covered that exact event, you know a couple of months before
• 3:24:50
  you know about she's been in the news a lot.
• 3:24:52
  That's put it let's put it that way.
• 3:24:54
  Oh, we've got another guy who likes to be in the news that's
• 3:24:56
  Kendrick Perkins. Errol get this.
• 3:24:59
  He says Karl Anthony Towns needs to lose 15 lbs Yes, Kendrick
• 3:25:05
  Perkins. He can't even butt his jacket
• 3:25:08
  when he's sitting at the dais. So Kendrick Perk is not exactly
• 3:25:11
  the picture of fitness these days.
• 3:25:13
  Has some interesting advice for Knicks power forward slash
• 3:25:16
  center Karl Anthony Towns. Whoops, one second right here.
• 3:25:20
  Here it is on the Perk Unplugged podcast, Perk Perkins said.
• 3:25:25
  Carl Anthony Towns, if I was you, I'd go lose me about 15
• 3:25:30
  lbs. You get 15 lbs off you bro, and
• 3:25:33
  you stay consistent. It's going to be smoke, boy.
• 3:25:36
  You going to be ready? I'm telling y'all, man, I'm
• 3:25:38
  looking forward, OK? Perk thinks that getting in
• 3:25:43
  better shape would improve Cat and Jalen Brunson, who are below
• 3:25:46
  average defenders with their lateral quickness.
• 3:25:49
  Perk, who is 610, played at 270 lbs, was as big as 382 lbs
• 3:25:56
  before a recent weight loss. He was showing off in this
• 3:26:00
  picture. Errol.
• 3:26:03
  First of all, I don't want to hear about a Boston Celtics
• 3:26:06
  speaking about a New York Knick or a player Kendrick Perkins is
• 3:26:10
  the biggest dope in professional sports because after he retired
• 3:26:14
  the only person that would hire this idiot to go on a national
• 3:26:18
  stage is Stephen A Smith. What a dumbass.
• 3:26:22
  And this guy comes out and throws Karl Anthony Towns under
• 3:26:24
  the bus Karl Anthony Towns is a first team all NBA player,
• 3:26:28
  second team all NBA player. Has he, this guy ever been a
• 3:26:31
  first or second team all NBA player?
• 3:26:33
  He's the first team, second team all NBA douche.
• 3:26:37
  That's what Kendrick Perkins is. He shouldn't be speaking.
• 3:26:41
  I don't want to hear what he has to say.
• 3:26:42
  As far as I'm concerned, the fact that he rooted for the
• 3:26:45
  Knicks this year only tells me that he jinx the New York
• 3:26:48
  Knicks. So Kendrick, go push away.
• 3:26:51
  Go on Barclays side. Because every time Barclays
• 3:26:54
  speaks, everything on the opposite side happens.
• 3:26:57
  I don't want to hear from Kendrick Perkins ever again.
• 3:26:59
  And as far as his fatness and his fat ass, Mike Joppa says
• 3:27:03
  learn how to shutting a button up your your damn mouth and
• 3:27:07
  button up your damn coat because you look like an idiot too, fat
• 3:27:10
  ass. The problem is, he's right.
• 3:27:13
  Like he's right if Cat loses some weight and gets lower and
• 3:27:17
  he works out and he. It's not going to make a
• 3:27:18
  difference. It's better on defense.
• 3:27:20
  It'll that of course it does if you will lose weight and you get
• 3:27:23
  a little bit. Cat doesn't play.
• 3:27:24
  Defense, he doesn't. He doesn't care.
• 3:27:27
  Well, you say that, but if you were in shape, you wouldn't be
• 3:27:31
  making all these bad fouls because you have better control
• 3:27:33
  of your body. You know this.
• 3:27:35
  If you're lighter, you have better control over your body
• 3:27:37
  and how you do things. Let's just look at like Joel
• 3:27:39
  Embiid, when he's got like a bad knee, like he's just flopping
• 3:27:42
  all over the place, swinging his arms and then goes, what?
• 3:27:44
  What did I do? Well, because he's not healthy
• 3:27:47
  and he's not able to control himself on defense.
• 3:27:50
  A guy like Cat, who's not as big as Joel Embiid needs to have
• 3:27:54
  really good balance, and he doesn't have good balance.
• 3:27:57
  That's why you see all the dumb fouls him getting, you know,
• 3:28:00
  beat and then getting frustrated like a 7 year old and like
• 3:28:03
  fouling the kid. Perk is right, even though he's
• 3:28:06
  not the one to talk, really. Fish, let me ask you a question.
• 3:28:09
  Karl Anthony Towns, he played for Kentucky, right?
• 3:28:12
  Yes. He was in pretty good shape when
• 3:28:14
  he played college ball, right? I mean, yeah, he was pretty
• 3:28:17
  good. Did he ever play a liquor
• 3:28:19
  defense on that Kentucky team? Did he yes or no, yes or no?
• 3:28:25
  Did he ever play a lick of defense, yes or no?
• 3:28:28
  Not really no. OK, so you're going to come out
• 3:28:32
  and say and you're going to agree with Perkins and saying if
• 3:28:35
  he lost 1516 lbs he'd be. Better.
• 3:28:37
  He's not playing defense. He's.
• 3:28:40
  Not just about to be passive. He's not going to do that.
• 3:28:43
  He's A1 dimensional type of player.
• 3:28:46
  Stop it, Perkins. Should be speaking.
• 3:28:48
  Button your lips, man. I don't want to hear what you
• 3:28:51
  have to say, you dumb ass. Let me come on your podcast and
• 3:28:54
  let me piss all over it, OK, That's.
• 3:28:57
  Right as that would be the Perk Unplugged podcast.
• 3:29:00
  All right, here we go next story.
• 3:29:01
  This ones really crazy. This is former Dolphins
• 3:29:05
  defensive back Rashad Jones who was robbed of two and a half
• 3:29:09
  $1,000,000 in a white collar crime and it was and he was
• 3:29:13
  schemed out of over 2 and a half million in Grand Theft and money
• 3:29:16
  laundering scheme. Now usually when you hear these
• 3:29:18
  things it's some kind of shady advisor.
• 3:29:21
  Well, Jones's financial advisor Isaiah Williams worked for
• 3:29:24
  Merrill Lynch and you abused his access to Jones's personal bank
• 3:29:29
  accounts along with the help of 49 year old Octavia Graham was
• 3:29:33
  pictured in the this slide here. Stole money to fund his
• 3:29:36
  extravagant lifestyle and pay off his credit cards that he was
• 3:29:40
  using to live like, I guess live like a king.
• 3:29:43
  Overall here, get this, over 133 illegal wire transfers, 88
• 3:29:48
  illegal Zell transfers and 16 bad handwritten checks were
• 3:29:52
  written to defraud Jones of all the money.
• 3:29:54
  Again, he worked at Merrill Lynch and Jones's attorneys are
• 3:29:58
  working with Merrill Lynch to try to get, you know, this
• 3:30:02
  figured out. They are one of the most
• 3:30:04
  renowned investment firms. It's hard for athletes to figure
• 3:30:09
  out what to do with all this money.
• 3:30:10
  And if the one place that's like you're supposed to trust is
• 3:30:13
  doing this, that's pretty tough. I don't know what you think
• 3:30:16
  about it. Errol, it's time for you to.
• 3:30:18
  Dial it up. Are any of these people hanging
• 3:30:21
  out with Otani's friends? I mean, this story is absolutely
• 3:30:28
  a joke. And honestly, I don't I I don't
• 3:30:31
  know Jones. I don't know him personally, but
• 3:30:33
  I do know anybody that loses this kind of money through wire
• 3:30:37
  transfers and not understand in a timely fashion that money was
• 3:30:42
  being deluded and not being brought back in any kind of way
• 3:30:45
  through his accounts just tells you how stupid he really is.
• 3:30:49
  These football players, they believe and not even football
• 3:30:53
  athletes believe in their accountants, these different,
• 3:30:56
  you know, companies, financial organizations that they're
• 3:30:59
  working with that they're going to help them and do right by
• 3:31:01
  them. And how many times have you
• 3:31:02
  heard over the years that these these financial companies, AKA
• 3:31:06
  Antoine Walker just absolutely throw his money away and believe
• 3:31:10
  in where his money is going to go and where the money is going
• 3:31:13
  to be divided out and he's becomes absolutely broke.
• 3:31:16
  You hear the stories all the time and this idiot is going to
• 3:31:19
  give 2 and half $1,000,000 to a company yeah has the name
• 3:31:23
  Merrill Lynch and not know where his money is.
• 3:31:25
  Going through the wire transfers only tells you one thing.
• 3:31:28
  The guy needs the right people around him.
• 3:31:31
  What a dumb ass. Well, it, it just like for me,
• 3:31:36
  I, you know, now it's like everybody with their debit cards
• 3:31:39
  or credit cards, like you get an alert on your phone.
• 3:31:43
  Like if there's, you know, if there's a transaction or
• 3:31:45
  something, I get an e-mail or an alert depending on how you set
• 3:31:48
  it up. So I don't know if it was just
• 3:31:50
  the trust factor or you just not paying attention.
• 3:31:54
  I mean, yeah, they can kind of get away with it.
• 3:31:56
  You know, they, they, you always hear these scams of getting, you
• 3:31:59
  know, people. It's like, hey, I'm going to try
• 3:32:01
  and take, you know, $8 and $12.00 because you don't notice
• 3:32:04
  it. And then it's like, OK, I got
• 3:32:06
  him. And then it's a big one.
• 3:32:07
  You're like, oh, and it's just a pain in the butt because it's at
• 3:32:10
  some point every single one of us, our card number has gotten
• 3:32:13
  stolen and there's been fraudulent charges.
• 3:32:16
  That's just the way it goes. But for that to happen like it
• 3:32:19
  was either he didn't have the right people around them, nobody
• 3:32:23
  was really watching his money, or it was just one of those
• 3:32:27
  where he. Is it dumbass?
• 3:32:28
  Didn't care. Dumbass.
• 3:32:29
  And just yeah, so yeah, it sucks.
• 3:32:32
  And obviously it wasn't like this was just like a one time
• 3:32:35
  thing. It obviously kept happening.
• 3:32:38
  How do you not know? Unbelievable.
• 3:32:41
  It's the old Mizuhara EPA. Mizuhara defense.
• 3:32:44
  I had no idea. I didn't know it was that guy.
• 3:32:47
  He did all of it. It was that dude, you're like.
• 3:32:50
  Who the hell is that? It was him, this little guy who
• 3:32:53
  was just in my stooges my entire life.
• 3:32:55
  That guy. Yeah.
• 3:32:56
  I didn't know anything about it. Let you go, my butt.
• 3:32:59
  The last one have you? Did you see this one?
• 3:33:03
  Errol Alvin Kamara throughout the first pitch for the Cubs.
• 3:33:07
  This was funny though. Let's just say it didn't go
• 3:33:10
  exactly as planned. Spikes it as you see right there
• 3:33:14
  about 4550 feet from the mound. But he says no, no, let me go
• 3:33:19
  again, give it back. He's waving to everybody.
• 3:33:23
  He's got the face on. He still throws a ball, but he
• 3:33:26
  gets it over the plate. Made me think about all of the
• 3:33:30
  great, horrible first pitches we've seen.
• 3:33:34
  And we saw Haktua throw out a first pitch for the Mets last
• 3:33:37
  year. Just a cap on the great season
• 3:33:39
  the Mets had about. $0.50 That was funny.
• 3:33:41
  Yeah, that was the one I would remember.
• 3:33:43
  But Errol, why don't you tell us a little bit about that when
• 3:33:44
  you? Dial it off.
• 3:33:46
  Well, I, I mean, obviously I would be embarrassed.
• 3:33:48
  I'm a professional athlete. I'm one of the best running
• 3:33:50
  backs in the NFL, been one of the best running backs in
• 3:33:53
  athletic running backs in all of football for how many years and
• 3:33:57
  I can't throw a ball over the plate.
• 3:33:59
  That is despicable, honestly. And then he wants to throw the
• 3:34:02
  ball again and then he throws another dud.
• 3:34:04
  Thank God he didn't hit the dirt in the floor on the on the
• 3:34:06
  ground on the cleats. I I will say this now, the
• 3:34:10
  Kamara should stay away from baseball.
• 3:34:12
  Just play football, worry about the bad, as we say bad.
• 3:34:17
  It's not grass. We'll call it just terrible
• 3:34:21
  turf. OK, it's it's to me Alvin Kamara
• 3:34:26
  should just concentrate on football.
• 3:34:28
  And I again, we've seen this many, many times.
• 3:34:31
  We've seen many different athletes try to throw the ball
• 3:34:34
  or even musicians or even actors, actresses, every single
• 3:34:38
  even ex baseball players that can't throw it over the plate.
• 3:34:42
  So I'm not going to blame Alvin Kamara throwing the ball the way
• 3:34:45
  he did. I'm just going to say that he
• 3:34:47
  was a sore loser and he had to throw it again.
• 3:34:50
  So I, I'm, I'm never doing that. If I ever get a chance to go out
• 3:34:55
  there and they want me to throw a ball, you know what I would
• 3:34:58
  do? I would plead the 5th and say,
• 3:34:59
  okay, Jabba, you throw it for me.
• 3:35:01
  I'm not embarrassing myself. Did you see the one though?
• 3:35:05
  And I'll let the boys go after this one and I don't know if you
• 3:35:07
  guys can pull it up, but it was I think like 2016 seventeen.
• 3:35:13
  It was the Red Sox to do through a first pitch and hit the guy in
• 3:35:16
  the Dick, the photographer. That's.
• 3:35:20
  Funny. Because he was, I mean, he
• 3:35:21
  couldn't see it, smoked it. I mean, there there's been a
• 3:35:26
  whole bunch of famous ones that have been really bad.
• 3:35:29
  Carl Lewis, The Olympian got it about like not even 10 feet in
• 3:35:33
  front of him. That's one of the worst ones
• 3:35:36
  ever. Baba Bowie from Howard Stern
• 3:35:38
  show at one of the worst ones ever that they always made fun
• 3:35:41
  of him for. You're Matt Steven A Smith.
• 3:35:44
  Your Mets are falling in on this for this.
• 3:35:47
  Show for this show, if they ever asked us to throw at for Yankees
• 3:35:52
  or the Mets, I'd be like, you know, I plead it.
• 3:35:54
  I'll let Jabba throw it. I'm not embarrassing myself in
• 3:35:57
  front of all those fans. Not Jabba.
• 3:35:59
  We're just not. We're just recruiting all the
• 3:36:01
  ones that we know we're. Going to I know I could throw
• 3:36:02
  it, but for some reason, I, I mean, New York is New York.
• 3:36:06
  I don't want to put myself in a bad situation.
• 3:36:08
  To be honest with you, I feel like again, I've played baseball
• 3:36:11
  all my life. I even play soulful now.
• 3:36:12
  So I feel like it's pretty maybe some nerves, but like you can't
• 3:36:16
  just like even if we just lobby over over to the plate, like you
• 3:36:20
  can't even get over the plate or.
• 3:36:21
  Something you you would piss your pants if you're standing in
• 3:36:24
  front of. No, I don't 2000 people, that is
• 3:36:28
  true. No, that is true.
• 3:36:29
  I. Piss what?
• 3:36:30
  You know what the You know what the best 1 is?
• 3:36:32
  It was former President George W Bush who got up on the mounds
• 3:36:36
  right after 911 and fired a strike right down the middle.
• 3:36:40
  That was the best one ever, $0.50.
• 3:36:43
  Probably the worst one ever though.
• 3:36:45
  Fish now the real question if Nathan were ever throw a first
• 3:36:48
  pitch. What would I?
• 3:36:50
  I would love to see you versus Nathan who throws a strike
• 3:36:53
  first. Hold on, hold on.
• 3:36:55
  Nathan actually posted himself throwing a football and the
• 3:36:58
  first thing Jabba says is you need to work on the lower
• 3:37:02
  undercarriage. You got to work on your legs.
• 3:37:06
  To be fair, it wasn't the best form I've ever seen.
• 3:37:09
  I I coached kids though Goody. Gave him compliments.
• 3:37:12
  Goody gave him a compliment. Yeah, he's he's a nice man in a
• 3:37:15
  goody, that's why. Chava was like, you got to fix.
• 3:37:18
  You got to fix those sticks, you.
• 3:37:20
  Know. Well guys, that's been another
• 3:37:23
  great addition of. Dial it all.
• 3:37:26
  Oh, right. It's been a crazy one.
• 3:37:29
  By the way. Hopefully Tommy's feeling a
• 3:37:31
  little bit better driving home. Hopefully he gets home safe
• 3:37:34
  because he was on the toilet for about an hour and 50 minutes.
• 3:37:39
  I mean that guy, I feel so bad man.
• 3:37:41
  Dude, he was sweating, soaked. I don't know what the hell he
• 3:37:45
  ate, but he ate something. Something burned that asshole of
• 3:37:47
  his. Anyways, we call this What's
• 3:37:50
  that smell? Hopefully I don't.
• 3:37:51
  Hold up, what is that smell? What's?
• 3:37:57
  That smell. Wow, you don't see that every
• 3:38:01
  day. I got the bubble gums.
• 3:38:06
  I've missed that. The bubble guts.
• 3:38:08
  I wasn't there that day. I needed a back story made.
• 3:38:10
  Money. No.
• 3:38:11
  No. Yeah.
• 3:38:12
  Java and Josh Towers were exchanging some interesting
• 3:38:14
  stories. Somehow that came up because it
• 3:38:16
  was Java's debut. The same with what was it when
• 3:38:19
  Josh plunked a rod twice? Was is that a job?
• 3:38:22
  Yeah. Yeah, well, he plunked.
• 3:38:24
  He plunked. A rod, right?
• 3:38:26
  Right. I never use my drops because I'm
• 3:38:30
  sitting right here. If I want to say it, I'll just
• 3:38:31
  say it. I just.
• 3:38:32
  Use everybody else. Why, why, Why would you do that?
• 3:38:35
  When you have an arsenal of nip heads and then you have bubble
• 3:38:37
  gums? It's good for both of them.
• 3:38:40
  Slap that ass. All right, all right.
• 3:38:46
  We had to get everybody in. It's pretty.
• 3:38:48
  Simple. It's just, it's just the four of
• 3:38:50
  us. Right now.
• 3:38:50
  So it's pretty simple, ladies and gentlemen, all you got to do
• 3:38:54
  is we're going to give you a story and we're going to tell
• 3:38:55
  you what it smells like. It's it's pretty simple.
• 3:38:57
  If we do this all the time, we're going to go fish speedy
• 3:39:00
  Jabba me. Let's go for it.
• 3:39:03
  Bing Bing. Bing All right, Speedy.
• 3:39:05
  If there's music, throw it on real quick for what's that
• 3:39:09
  smell? And guys, we know that the
• 3:39:11
  baseball, we started the show tonight with the MLB All Star
• 3:39:15
  game being naming its pitchers and reserves, but it had to be
• 3:39:20
  delayed for over 10 minutes because the cornhole
• 3:39:25
  championships were on ESPN. Yes, we had to wait until
• 3:39:30
  cornhole, women's cornhole or I guess intergender or whatever,
• 3:39:36
  men and women's cornhole team. Mixed double S.
• 3:39:39
  Mixed double S cornhole had to finish before we were able to
• 3:39:44
  get the All Star game. I I've seen things be preempted
• 3:39:47
  before. I've never seen cornhole preempt
• 3:39:52
  Major League Baseball. What does that smell like?
• 3:39:55
  It smells like the great Cornholio didn't get enough
• 3:39:58
  teepee for his bunghole. All right, so I'm gonna we had
• 3:40:03
  the Bill Belichick story and dial up.
• 3:40:04
  I'll go with a different Bill Belichick story and him and
• 3:40:07
  Deion Sanders not wanting to be featured in the new EA college
• 3:40:11
  football 26 video game. Deion Sanders wants all money in
• 3:40:14
  all other ways, including illegal Arabian stuff, but
• 3:40:17
  doesn't want that. And then who knows what his
• 3:40:19
  girlfriend said about what Bill Belichick's girlfriend said
• 3:40:21
  about not wanting his features. So if you remember some of the
• 3:40:24
  Maddens in the in the 2000s, you end up going by these very
• 3:40:27
  stereo, these very like generic coach names.
• 3:40:30
  All of a sudden these super random or New England coach or
• 3:40:33
  something like that for Belichick, Sean Payton was ended
• 3:40:35
  up being it for one year. So what does that smell like?
• 3:40:38
  It smells like a bunch of gremlins, or Travis hunters, as
• 3:40:41
  Errol calls them, jumping into a barrel full of tar all.
• 3:40:49
  Right, that's an inside. Ground there, we're really
• 3:40:53
  going. I am going to go with I don't
• 3:40:56
  know if you guys saw this, we didn't touch on it.
• 3:40:59
  We kind of touched on everything else that the Yankees, but I
• 3:41:03
  don't know if you guys saw it, but Anthony Volpe threw a ball
• 3:41:06
  and hit Aaron Judge in the face. Wow.
• 3:41:09
  Yeah, in between innings. In between innings, like there
• 3:41:12
  was a line drive to him. He turns and judges just running
• 3:41:15
  in. He throws one up and it
• 3:41:17
  literally like it put a cut on his face.
• 3:41:19
  He came up to bat with a a Band-Aid or whatever.
• 3:41:22
  It was his next at bat. And I'm like, what?
• 3:41:25
  What the hell is going on right now?
• 3:41:27
  Like when when it rains, it pours.
• 3:41:28
  I go. That's just giving you giving
• 3:41:30
  Volpe a reason to take a hike. Could you imagine if something
• 3:41:34
  worse would have happened and the luck that judges had with
• 3:41:37
  injuries? I'm like, what, what what are we
• 3:41:39
  doing here? Like, let's let's not pour salt
• 3:41:42
  in the moon Volt be that you know that it it smells like you
• 3:41:47
  just crapped your pants because you saw your career just flash
• 3:41:50
  in front of your eyes and you definitely diarrhea without dude
• 3:41:53
  wipes. Wow, as long as she's using dude
• 3:41:58
  wipes and taking care of my tum hole I'm good.
• 3:42:01
  He needed a whole package after that happened.
• 3:42:03
  Now the. Question if if you had bubble
• 3:42:06
  guts Jabba, what did Anthony voltage have?
• 3:42:09
  What does Anthony voltage? Have right now.
• 3:42:10
  Oh, could you imagine? Lick my butt.
• 3:42:15
  You you would just think like your life is over.
• 3:42:17
  Oh, it's done. Like I would have walked
• 3:42:19
  literally to the clubhouse and just started packing my back at
• 3:42:22
  that point. This makes my pecker hard.
• 3:42:24
  Like sorry. All right, sweet.
• 3:42:26
  I can't hit with anybody in scoring position.
• 3:42:28
  I'm making errors. I'm hitting 220.
• 3:42:29
  Let me just go ahead and pack it up.
• 3:42:31
  I'm going to go what? About You can hit Judge right in
• 3:42:33
  the face and it's right. Yeah, you can.
• 3:42:36
  Throw and just. Close.
• 3:42:37
  Maybe, maybe Volpe will follow it up with swinging at Alvin
• 3:42:39
  Kamara's first pitch. I hope not.
• 3:42:41
  Wouldn't. Surprise.
• 3:42:44
  Me all right, ladies and gentlemen, our final watch.
• 3:42:47
  That smell goes to a very interesting lady.
• 3:42:51
  She has her own show, one of the biggest podcast in the country,
• 3:42:54
  Alex Cooper. She's the podcaster of Call Her
• 3:42:59
  Daddy. Alex Cooper appearance
• 3:43:01
  thoroughly enjoyed herself during the 7th inning stretch of
• 3:43:05
  Take Me Out to the Ball game. Not everyone on the hand of the
• 3:43:08
  Chicago Cubs game against the Saint Louis Cardinals seem to
• 3:43:12
  feel the same way about Call Her Daddy's podcast host.
• 3:43:17
  As she was singing Take Me Out to the Ball Game as a she forgot
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  some words to Take Me Out to the ball game as she got booed at
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  Wrigley Stadium. It was absolutely embarrassing.
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  How do you not know the words to Take Me Out to the ball game?
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  I think every single person, even non sports fans know the
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  song Take Me Out to the ball game and she was messing up on
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  the word. She didn't even know the tune of
• 3:43:44
  the song. It was embarrassing.
• 3:43:46
  So what does that smell like? Well, it smells like Jabba's ass
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  as he wipes his ass with Dude wipes, so there you go.
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  Joey, bag of doughnuts over there.
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  There you go. I hopefully we don't stick any
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  doughnuts in his ass, that's for sure.
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  Especially if it's hungry anyway.
• 3:44:03
  No, we just, we just do Oreos on this show.
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  No. That's Mikey C That's Mikey C.
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  That's Mikey C He. Does a lot of stupid things but
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  hopefully nobody gets to experience that.
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  I I didn't, but I've heard stories, let me tell you from
• 3:44:16
  women that actually told me. These are true stories.
• 3:44:18
  Anyways, a thank you to Ben Lyons for joining us at Knicks
• 3:44:22
  NBATV insider contributor. He does a lot of stuff with the
• 3:44:27
  NBATV. So if you haven't checked him
• 3:44:29
  out, he's fantastic. So thank you for joining us and
• 3:44:31
  laughing with us and enjoying an hours, whatever it is right over
• 3:44:34
  there. The dozen of you know, Orioles
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  in Mikey CS ass. As we all know, Carl doesn't
• 3:44:41
  like the old niff. Carl plays with himself.
• 3:44:45
  As we all know, he does. Anyways, thank you to Ben Lyons,
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  Thank you to all the fans on social media, TikTok, Twitter,
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  platforms. Keep listening to us, Follow us,
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  subscribe to us if you haven't. We'll be back on Thursday.
• 3:45:05
  Speedy, who would? Who do we have on the show?
• 3:45:06
  Return to the show at 9:45 will be Phoenix Suns play by by
• 3:45:10
  broadcaster and Dallas Cowboys play by play broadcaster Kevin
• 3:45:12
  or Ray. Oh, Kevin will join us.
• 3:45:14
  And by the way, Kevin, I'm sure has his own thoughts about
• 3:45:17
  George Pickens, as we heard CD Lamb and George Pickens on a
• 3:45:20
  broadcast recently and CD came out and I wouldn't have ever
• 3:45:24
  thought this to to be true. CD Lamb said there's no one or
• 3:45:28
  two, it's all ones. And he says now you got to
• 3:45:31
  contend with two number ones on one roster.
• 3:45:34
  Well, we'll see how that works for the whole season when George
• 3:45:37
  Pickens doesn't see enough balls, especially up his ass.
• 3:45:39
  And if he does, maybe somebody's going to bend over and give him
• 3:45:42
  a nice little poutang pie, as Speedy would.
• 3:45:45
  Say that's why Kevante Turpin had to do what he did, because
• 3:45:48
  he knew he wasn't a #1. Oh, absolutely.
• 3:45:50
  By the way, Speedy, I haven't used this drop in a long time.
• 3:45:53
  Those share a poutang pie with the rock.
• 3:45:54
  Anyways, that's it for our show, ladies and gentlemen.
• 3:45:58
  We'll be back with Nick Goody on Thursday.
• 3:46:00
  Hopefully Tommy feels better. He's pooping, he's scooping and
• 3:46:04
  let it dish out speedy as we dish go by to all the fans, by
• 3:46:07
  the way, thank you to our our, our our social media people.
• 3:46:11
  I'm not going to mention any names because I don't want to
• 3:46:13
  throw them throw anybody a bone so they steal our guys.
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  But thank you to our our interns, all the guys, Jake,
• 3:46:19
  Zach, Aaron, all the guys on our social media, all the writers on
• 3:46:24
  our website. Thank you to all to all a good
• 3:46:27
  night. As I always say, Santa's not
• 3:46:29
  back. And if Santa is Santa's going to
• 3:46:30
  be riding up Speedy's dot strap. Good night, it.
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