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TB Joshua & His Disciples - The Atrocities Of Mega Churches in Africa · DidiLawren

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  Hello and welcome back to the peace of the Battery.
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  Laurencia, how are you all doing?
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  I hope you're doing great. Now for today's episode I'm
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  going to be reacting to the BBC documentary about TB, Joshua and
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  his disciples. If you haven't watched that,
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  this is going to be a spoiler. Please go on YouTube and watch
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  the three-part documentary almost three hours and make up
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  your mind regarding what happened.
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  I am just going to be reacting based on my opinions now as we
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  Nigerians or the whole world, we know synagogue, Church of All
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  Nations, but particularly Nigerians.
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  We knew something fishy was going on.
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  There was always one story coming out on the press.
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  Then there was no Internet like that.
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  So it's always on the newspaper, TV stations.
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  You're always hearing about TV. Joshua this TV show that even
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  the pastors are that are some points where even against him.
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  But he was very heavy into humanitarian services.
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  He helped the widows, he helped the cripple.
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  It is one church that you go to and you see cripple lined up on
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  the streets. They're being fed a whole lot of
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  crippled and the North actually moved to Lagos at some point
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  because of the treatment that they received from TB.
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  Joshua, he helped a whole lot of people.
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  He's generous like that. So.
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  But you always hear things. You always hear people talking
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  about it, be Joshua, things that he's doing things that he's done
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  this and that, that and that. BBC did a three hours,
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  three-part documentary documenting his, the interviews
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  from his disciples claiming or alleging he was a ritualist, he
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  was a rapist. He's an abuser.
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  He's they said the whole lot of things about TB Joshua.
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  Now I will just play some of the clip for you to see what kind
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  of, in a nutshell, what the whole documentary is all about.
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  Now watch this. The God I was introduced to is
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  evil. This is the same God that would
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  sleep with us. This is the same God that would
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  beat us up. You have no.
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  Idea of. What I went through everybody
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  wanted the privilege to meet this big giant called TV Joshua.
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  Nothing is as strong as love. I love.
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  You. The first time I met him he
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  looked loving, not knowing that behind that was a sadist
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  psychopath. There was a system in there that
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  he used to abuse these women. He's the one that crafted the
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  building of his apartment. The whole building was just
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  designed to keep secret. I call a lady profile wants to
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  see you. He will tell you the specific
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  staircase that this person should come.
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  I felt like there was a beast, like this beast.
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  I was screaming and he was whispering my ear.
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  That should stop, stop like a baby.
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  He kept forcing him himself on me.
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  He assured me the more I made him happy.
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  God. Would be happy with me.
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  You know it. You skip your first period, you
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  skip your second period, and you have to.
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  Talk. If any of us got pregnant, we
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  have to do something about it. A witness lot of abortions.
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  They started doing it inside the synagogue.
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  You'd be taken to this clinic of his.
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  It could have killed us. I never had a choice whether I
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  could keep a potential child or not.
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  I had three abortions at the synagogue.
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  I wanted to be connected to God. That's why I stayed there.
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  That's why I keep trying my very best.
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  I now, if you don't know me, Joshua should be.
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  Joshua is a Nigerian pastor. He's one of the top mega pastors
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  had a mega church. In fact the whole street was the
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  synagogue St There was so much going on.
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  People were travelling from far and wide to attend these
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  churches. At some point, even the
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  megapascals were kind of jealous of him because he was the
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  pastor. That got politicians, all these
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  ones that politicians are fighting to go to their churches
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  right now. TB Joshua was that guy.
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  There was a point in time when Pastor Chris Oyakhilome actually
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  went to his church. Nelson in front of him, he kind
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  of puts a rod or kind of blessed him.
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  That got a whole lot of people talking because they said we
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  know who to be Joshua is. We thought you were a man of God
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  for you to have gone to Tibby, Joshua now out in front of him
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  and he blessed you. A whole lot of people left
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  Christ Embassy at that time. But the point is there has
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  always been chatters about Joshua.
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  There's always been stories about Joshua.
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  There's always been cycles coming out to talk about the
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  atrocities 2 disciples, Bisola and desolate guy Camber his
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  name. Right now they came out, they
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  did a video on YouTube, then YouTube wasn't what it is today.
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  They talked about, you know, how they helped him, they brought
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  virgins. So my point is that the BBC
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  documentary is not new. We've heard these things we have
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  in the tabloids in its own tally on the Internet by I think BBC
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  kind of took it in a larger scale.
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  They have the platform. They were able to get other
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  disciples to join in the interview.
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  Even his daughter, I mean to be Joshua, had a daughter who he
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  tortured. According to her and other
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  disciples. He was ashamed that she was born
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  because he was married. He had his own kids, had his own
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  family. He had an affair.
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  No. The lady got pregnant, had a
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  daughter, and for some reason she brought it, brought the
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  child to Tbilisi thinking, OK, my child is going to have a
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  better life. And that did not happen.
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  He literally tortured this girl. He made people torture her.
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  He made the whole disciples. This is where my I I find it
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  difficult to. I understand your pain.
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  I understand that they went through a lot.
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  I understand that, you know, no human being should go through
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  what they went through. I understand that they were
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  brainwashed and all that, but where does your humanity come
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  in? There is a child.
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  A child that you all sat down, watched her dad torture her.
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  You all joined her in torturing this girl.
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  You locked her. Hope you prevented you tortured
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  people. I understand you were saying ohh
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  to betrayed this. To be sure, he was you joined in
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  those actions. I am not diminishing their pain.
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  I am not diminishing anything, but I think at some point there
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  has to be accountability. We have other people online
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  right now defending TB, Joshua saying that ohh why did BBC do
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  it when he has passed on? They don't talk about the royal
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  family. They did not do this.
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  They did not do that. Excuse me, excuse me.
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  If we as a nation, we have journalists, we have TV
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  stations, we have a lot of people that could do actually do
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  investigative journalism and bring these things to light.
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  We as a nation could not do that.
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  It's an indictment on us. And then somebody, you know is
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  doing that because they have the platform, they have the name,
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  they have the money, they have the resources.
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  And then you're saying, why are they doing it now?
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  Why is it that, OK, he passed on and they're doing it?
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  He passed. Nobody was expecting him to pass
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  on at the age of 57. They were already filming the
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  documentary when they learned of his passing.
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  Even the church. Right now they are not
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  addressing anything. They're just keeping quiet,
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  saying ohh There's always been allegation.
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  There is no smoke without fire. You're seeing.
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  There always been allegations, people accusing him, people
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  doing this, people doing that. What is your man of God doing?
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  Lots of people are saying touch not my anointed.
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  You are anointed man of God is allegedly rapist.
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  You anointed man of God carried out several terminated several
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  pregnancies of young teenagers who he got pregnant because
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  apparently he likes virgins. So when they give him virgins,
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  because they are locked up in the house, they can't even go to
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  say OK, then we go to the hospital to get after pills or
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  anything like that. That does not happen.
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  They get pregnant. They, they, they, they, they
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  even have a clinic in the Synagogue Church of All Nations
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  where abortions are carried out. The eldest knew, the women knew
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  and they will come to church and they will pray.
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  They will see miracles. So people say, oh, regardless of
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  what he's doing, God used him. There is a man that said all
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  those things are lies. He uses black magic.
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  He actually carries out rituals for this guy, or for this man,
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  or for this sin. I am pissed.
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  It's high time that we sit down and actually know God for
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  ourselves. It's high time we sit down and
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  become more spiritual instead of religious.
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  There was a church in, I think, Was it in Kenya or where that
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  the pastor literally starved the congregation to death?
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  We're talking about hundreds of people, hundreds.
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  Children, women and his own family are OK, they are fine.
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  But he, he, he starved people. These are the things we're
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  talking about. When you look at Dan, TB,
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  Joshua, you look at all the whole miracles he was
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  performing. You see people coming there
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  because they, they don't have money.
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  Somebody with, you know, a wound on the leg or something that you
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  could see just needed medical attention.
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  But because that person doesn't have money to go to the
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  hospital, they will come for him.
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  And according to the disciples, what happens is that they have
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  doctors that actually take care of those people, give them
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  medication, they recover. It takes sometimes three months,
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  six months, a whole lot of times for them to heal.
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  But when they are showing those things on TV, they'll bring
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  before and after and they will say three days later the person
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  got healed. Bisola is actually the chief
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  editor, she said she did these things, she knew.
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  So we have people who worked with this man.
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  We have people who helped cover up or helped bring virgins.
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  They themselves they were abused or raped.
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  The the, the, the, the so much went on in the synagogue.
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  These people are coming out to share their stories.
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  But who? Lots of people are saying touch
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  not my anointed. You are anointed was busy
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  touching virgins. You anointed was busy raping
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  people. You are anointed was busy
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  creating like he. He had pictures of the disciples
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  tricking them, knives or whatever fetish thing he was
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  doing at that point who are limited.
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  You anointed, you know, you see people defending these things
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  and you you just want to know why, Why These are the
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  experiences. I am not saying to be Joshua did
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  not do good. He was a humanitarian.
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  He dashed money, he helped people, he did a whole lot of
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  good. But that does that take away
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  from the fact that this man was abusive?
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  This man got a whole lot of teenagers pregnant.
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  This man actually had a clinic, abortion clinic in his church
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  where the members knew about it, the women knew about it.
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  Everybody, the people you surround yourself with, matters
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  a lot. It matters a lot.
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  If you if you have this herd mentality, then you are, you are
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  going to, you're going to, you're going to regret it.
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  One day you're going to regret it If you see somebody who is
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  controlling, you know it starts in a very subtle way, like ohh,
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  somebody telling you you, you know this thing is black and the
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  best thing is telling, you know, is white trying to play mind
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  games. Once I see anybody playing mind
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  games, once I see somebody trying to undermine my
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  intelligence, you are going to get his hot horse.
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  Like by the time I finish with you, you go and think about your
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  life. You would think about your life
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  because it starts very small. It starts very small if you have
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  not been through that. I understand that he, he goes
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  after younger people and literally groom them.
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  But if you don't recognise those signs, you are literally going
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  to be because you get to a point where you be like, OK, what?
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  What's the point? Who wants me?
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  Because at that point they brainwashed you.
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  They've made you feel worthless. They've made you feel you.
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  You're not, you're not enough. Anybody that goes to church, or
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  especially those fanatics, most times they have a need, they
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  have a void that they're thinking, OK, this man of God is
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  going to help me with what this religion is going to help me
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  with. If you look at the the stories
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  of the disciples, the ones that came from the UK, the other one
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  said she was gay, so she wanted to be healed.
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  Or she what? She wanted God to take away the
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  gayness from her. When she saw the tape of TB,
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  Joshua, she thought this man could help me.
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  You shall not. Only according to her raped her.
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  He tortured her. She did not get sleep.
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  The other one said her mum passed away from cancer, so she
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  needed God. She was like, OK, there's she.
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  She saw the tapes and she saw he was healing people with cancer.
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  She felt there is a cure for this team.
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  I need to follow this man. Just in case maybe that was
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  actually got involved. There is always in need.
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  There is always a void. Look at yourself.
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  Find out. Do I feel any void?
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  Do I? Do I have a need that I think
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  that another human being can feel?
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  Why have a void in my life that I think this is how they get
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  you. This is how they get you.
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  If there is something in your life that you think it's a need,
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  or it's a void that something must feel it in, don't use
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  religion. Don't use pastors.
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  Don't do. Don't fill that void with
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  another human being. Because once that person sees
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  that you need them, once a person knows you need them, I
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  can tell you this for free. That is when you try to
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  manipulate you, gaslight, you control.
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  You tell you things. Listen, feel yourself be 100%.
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  I know it's it's impossible to be 100%, but make sure that if
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  there is an if you have a need in you, if there is something
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  you are crying to God for, don't fill that void with another
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  human being. Don't feel that with the
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  husband. Don't feel that with the child.
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  Don't feel that with material things.
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  Try to to be whole. Try to.
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  Maybe meditation helps a lot. It does help a lot because once
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  you start looking for somebody to fill a void, it's not going
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  to end well. It will not end well.
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  A whole lot of people are sitting down saying ohh what
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  they've seen 99% of Nigerian pastors.
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  It is business. It is business.
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  Do not say no Ohh God called this one God called that one
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  God. Did this one God do that one?
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  The Bible said yeah. Are gods.
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  You are gods. He is the man of God.
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  What am I? Am I?
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  I am a daughter of I'm a child of God.
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  The power you think you have, I have it.
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  The grace you think you have. I have it.
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  The glory you think you have. I have it.
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  I don't need you to pray to God for me.
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  I am a child of God. I can actually go to God and
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  tell God my, my, my problems the way you think.
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  You're blessed. I am blessed.
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  But because these people have this, you know, people rallying
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  around them, We're talking about tides people take pay, Tides
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  people. So seed people do first fruits
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  people, you know, give to God. We're not even talking about
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  offering. The church has free label.
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  You see people walking in the church from January to December
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  and reaching the pastors. Look at those disciples.
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  They started with him. They started with the synagogue
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  church. They literally built that
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  church. But do they have any stake in
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  it? They don't.
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  They don't have a stake in it. Today is being run by his wife,
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  the family. They are billionaires and these
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  guys are just summer time is from what they went through.
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  Before you start building somebody up, before you start
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  saying, well this is our proper in the Lord our Mama, in the
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  Lord our that the Jew our mummy Jew.
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  Before you start building people, make sure you self you
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  are home so that it will be easier for you to walk away.
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  Because once you make somebody your source, source of
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  happiness, source of income, source of whatever source of
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  once you make somebody your source, that person can do
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  whatever they want to do with you.
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  That, and it will be very difficult for you to detach
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  yourself from that because that is your source of whatever you
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  made that person 2024. We should learn Be spiritual,
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  don't be religious. Leave that Diageo and Momiji
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  alone. Leave that man of God.
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  You are also a child of God the way they are children of God.
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  Or that is this the way you see them, that pedestal you put them
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  on. You have the same grace.
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  You have the same grace. We all are children of God.
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  The Bible say yeah, are gods. Believe it.
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  Just the way you're going to believe in that, pastor.
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  Just the way you're going to believe in that GMO.
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  Believe in yourself, believe that God has given you every
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  authority. Believe in that authority.
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  Don't believe in ohh the God of Pastor to be Joshua.
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  The God of Pastor Jerry. The God of Pastor Chris
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  Oyakhilome. The God of you know, are you
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  What? You know?
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  Ohh, I am just going to stop. I am just going to stop at this
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  point. Anyway, that is my reaction from
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  the, you know, recent video released by BBC.
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  I think we should talk more about the consequences of our
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  beliefs. We should we should look into
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  that. Thank you very much for watching
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  today's episode. Please like, like, like and
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  share. Thank you very much.
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  Bye. Bye.