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College Football Playoff: Ohio State Buckeyes vs. Tennessee Volunteers · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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Speaker 1: Welcome to a very special live episode of buck Eyes
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Speaker 1: Tomorrow morning for Monday, December ninth. I'm your host, tom Or.
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Speaker 1: The Tennessee game is in oh shoot I forgot to
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Speaker 1: think about it. Twelve days, twelve days, twelve days the
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Speaker 1: game against Michigan in three hundred and fifty five days.
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Speaker 1: Job by Tony Gerniman Buckehadle dot Com. Tony, we now know,
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Speaker 1: we now know how how far away Ohio is. Dates
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Speaker 1: next game is big news. Twelve days till the game
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Speaker 1: against Tennessee. Buckey's number eight seed in college football Playoff
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Speaker 1: Tennessee number nine. That means home game in Ohio Stadium
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Speaker 1: Saturday night, December twenty. First, do you think, Tony, when
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Speaker 1: all the Ohiskate fans were complaining about all the noon kickoffs,
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Speaker 1: somewhere a monkey Paul curled and said, Okay, you don't
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Speaker 1: want a noon cackoff. Let's see how like not this
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Speaker 1: new Dame.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is going to be the least noon kickoff
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Speaker 2: of the season for the buck Eyes. Eight pm, December twenty,
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Speaker 2: first first day of winter, perhaps.
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Speaker 1: The shortest day of the year in terms of sunlight.
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Speaker 2: Yes, so, then, so you're talking really dark and so
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Speaker 2: you're going to have all of the lights. But Brian
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Speaker 2: Day kept saying that defans should be excited about this,
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Speaker 2: the team is excited about this. The the mentioned on
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Speaker 2: ESPN show about Ohio State should have hoped for should
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Speaker 2: have rather had a.
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Speaker 3: A road game in the playoffs so that they wouldn't
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Speaker 3: be booed as.
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Speaker 1: Like Tony, Lots of people say stupid stuff on TV.
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Speaker 1: As it turns out, Tony, what was what was Alabama's
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Speaker 1: record against teams with the record over five hundred Tony anyway,
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Speaker 1: speaking of stupid narratives, So yeah, I you know this
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Speaker 1: is this is an Ohio State fan base that is
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Speaker 1: a little down, and you know, an Ohio State team
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Speaker 1: that was a little down coming after the mission game
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Speaker 1: sounds from everything you know, what is Ryan gannet Day
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Speaker 1: going to say, But it sounds like and it feels
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Speaker 1: like you should be able to do at this point.
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Speaker 1: Now you kind of have Okay, now you know the
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Speaker 1: next time you knew you were in. Now you know
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Speaker 1: who you're playing. It's probably who they were largely expecting
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Speaker 1: to play after the release of the playoff rankings last Tuesday.
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Speaker 1: But it sounds it's like, okay, now there's some new focus.
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Speaker 1: We've got someone over there on the monarch machine right now.
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Speaker 1: It's it's like, okay, like maybe maybe people are sort
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Speaker 1: of stop, you know, have stopped being just grumpy and
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Speaker 1: now are sort of focused on moving forward.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there was no live look into the announcement of
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Speaker 2: the Ohio State team room or the launch room up there,
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Speaker 2: and so the message from day Ryan day is that
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Speaker 2: everybody's excited and you know, now you know who you're playing,
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Speaker 2: and now it becomes more tangible. And not that they
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Speaker 2: didn't have an idea that who this is who they
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Speaker 2: would be, but now it's definite. So you can all
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Speaker 2: the cursory work that they were doing. You know, I'm
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Speaker 2: going to take a look on my iPad or whatever.
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Speaker 2: Now you get into it and you get all of
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Speaker 2: those juices flowing. They'll be back out on the practice
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Speaker 2: field getting more and more going this week and then
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Speaker 2: next week will basically be game week, game prep for
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Speaker 2: them and getting ready for this. And it's a very
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Speaker 2: different layoff than they've we've ever really seen in this
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Speaker 2: level of college football. Is it more similar to like
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Speaker 2: Army and Navy. You're probably used to it, but this
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Speaker 2: is or is early early December bowl game.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Bahamas. Yeah, yeah, if you were a team, yeah,
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Speaker 1: if I Hire State somehow I went to the Bahamas Bowl.
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Speaker 1: I think back to I think nineteen ninety five. They
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Speaker 1: might have had consecutive weeks off in the middle of
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Speaker 1: like September or they you know, they played the Kickoff
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Speaker 1: Classic and then waited a couple of weeks maybe one
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Speaker 1: year there. But this is definitely a weird like a
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Speaker 1: double buy almost. But last week was you kind of
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Speaker 1: last week was felt, I think just based on what
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Speaker 1: Ryan Day said, like it was a little bit of
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Speaker 1: a Okay, let's unplug everything, wait thirty seconds and then
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Speaker 1: plug things back in and then they got back out
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Speaker 1: there and had a practice on Wednesday.
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Speaker 3: If they had to play a game last week this
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Speaker 3: past on Saturday.
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Speaker 1: After that, well well after that, if they well, if
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Speaker 1: they it depends on which game it was. Is it
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Speaker 1: a Big ten championship game against Oregon where you've got
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Speaker 1: to just you know what the challenge is. If you know,
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Speaker 1: if they had still gotten in the Beigcome Championship game,
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Speaker 1: if Penn State in Indiana had both lost on the
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Speaker 1: last weekend of regular season, I think that's one where
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Speaker 1: you kind of turn it around pretty quickly, where you
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Speaker 1: sort of know, hey, still, here's the task at hand.
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Speaker 1: It's the number one team in the country. It's the
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Speaker 1: only team that you know, the team that beat you
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Speaker 1: earlier in the year. You're lost by one point. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: obviously this is right there for you. The fact that
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Speaker 1: now you've got you have a week to probably do
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Speaker 1: a little bit more of It's probably not quite a
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Speaker 1: normal Bawl prep. Normally, the Bowl prep is a ton
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Speaker 1: of time for the younger guys. It doesn't sound like
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Speaker 1: that's going to be what the case is here. It
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Speaker 1: does sound like they're going to be spending some time
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Speaker 1: figuring things out on the offensive line.
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Speaker 2: Some young guys on the offensive line getting a look
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Speaker 2: Luke Montgomery and Josh Meadilla getting an opportunity to see
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Speaker 2: if they can win a job, which gives you an
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Speaker 2: idea of the level of concern of things. And I
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Speaker 2: did I did want to ask Ran do you expect
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Speaker 2: to have a different starting offensive line in this game?
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Speaker 2: But of course he you know, he's not gonna give
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Speaker 2: you that answer, And he didn't go into too much
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Speaker 2: depth on what they're looking to do. But you can
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Speaker 2: kind of do the math with Luke Montgomery being a
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Speaker 2: guard and Josh Badia being a center on what they're
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Speaker 2: looking to do and who the I'd be looking to
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Speaker 2: move and if they're moving, both of those guys went
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Speaker 2: a job. Now somebody's somebody. Two people would be moving
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Speaker 2: out or moving around. So it gives you a further
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Speaker 2: idea that they're looking for something. I don't know that well,
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Speaker 2: maybe maybe two guys will be in there, but you know,
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Speaker 2: and then you know because theoretically, say it's Josh Badi
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Speaker 2: at guard at a center.
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Speaker 3: Carshion hintsman too, left guard, Luke Montgomery to right.
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Speaker 2: Guard perhaps or yeah, So Austin Seerveld gets gets sat
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Speaker 2: again and Taker Sebola gets sat like. These are all
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Speaker 2: things that they're still trying to work on. Zen Wholski
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Speaker 2: will not be available, so he's he's not consideration at
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Speaker 2: this point, Ryan d They did say, you know, hey,
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Speaker 2: maybe George Fitzpatrick comes in and shows that he can
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Speaker 2: play left tackle when they moved down to the Jackson side.
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Speaker 3: I would not expect that to happen.
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Speaker 1: No, He was asked about the fact, you know, the
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Speaker 1: first couple of guys he talked about were both interior guys,
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Speaker 1: and so it was kind of like, so, it doesn't
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Speaker 1: sound like you're thinking about moving Donovan Jackson back outside,
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Speaker 1: And it was kind of like it whoa, which tells me, no,
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Speaker 1: he doesn't want to close the door on that. But
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Speaker 1: also the answer is no.
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Speaker 2: You don't ever really want to close the door on
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Speaker 2: a player like you know this time of year, like,
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Speaker 2: oh no, he could definitely.
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Speaker 1: Well and if you get here's the thing, whether you
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Speaker 1: need him, whether you need someone like George Fitchpack to start,
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Speaker 1: we have seen offensive lineman get hurt in the middle
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Speaker 1: of games, So you need everyone to be in full
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Speaker 1: game week mode for the next couple of weeks, really
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Speaker 1: trying to make significant improvements. Because there's more snaps available
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Speaker 1: between the end of the Michigan game and the start
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Speaker 1: of the game week against Tennessee next week than you
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Speaker 1: would have in a typical any week during the season.
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Speaker 1: So this is an opportunity for some of those young
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Speaker 1: guys to make a statement. See where you see where
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Speaker 1: you stand. There are legitimately spots potentially available there.
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Speaker 2: So, especially as they work out the whole transfer portal
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Speaker 2: situation and how that's going to go, which is going
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Speaker 2: to be interesting.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and so far three Buckeyes in the transfer port
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Speaker 1: right now, linebacker gave Powers, wide receiver Jaden Ballard, wide
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Speaker 1: receiver Cojo Antwy. Those are the three guys. And now
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Speaker 1: technically no one's in the transfer portal yet. They've just
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Speaker 1: sort of said I'm going to be in the transfer
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Speaker 1: portal when the transfer portal opens, which is Monday, it opens,
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Speaker 1: so coming soon. Buckey's in the transfer portal right now,
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Speaker 1: it's just planning to end of the transfer portal. But
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Speaker 1: he was Ryan Day was asked, you know, what does
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Speaker 1: you know? Does that just close the door? It is
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Speaker 1: someone like for example, Gay Powers, who's played on a
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Speaker 1: ton of special teams. You kind of want game Powers
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Speaker 1: to be there for some of these games because you
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Speaker 1: got some you might have some big special teams places
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Speaker 1: that you got coming up. And it does not sound
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Speaker 1: like just say you're in an end of the transfer portal.
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Speaker 1: Even potentially entering the transfer portal does not necessarily foreclose
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Speaker 1: the possibility of continuing to play.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they Ryande said they would go case by case
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Speaker 2: on what to do, whether that player wants to whether
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Speaker 2: they feel like they need to get into portal. Now,
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Speaker 2: I think in Gay Powers placed and you did say
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Speaker 2: a lot of guys want to finish out the season
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Speaker 2: and then they'll enter and they know they're going to
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Speaker 2: lose some guys. But Gave Powers case, I don't think
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Speaker 2: he's a guy that needs to get in right now
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Speaker 2: because he's he's an upperclassman, he's you know, he's pretty
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Speaker 2: well known that you would think there would be opportunities
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Speaker 2: for him after the season. He has a role on
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Speaker 2: this team, But each individual person is different, and I
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Speaker 2: would assume they would be like, yes, please stay, and
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Speaker 2: you know we would, we would love to have you stay,
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Speaker 2: but it's up to the player then to follow through
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Speaker 2: on that. And like, because he's a guy that, like
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Speaker 2: I said, I don't think he's going to have any
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Speaker 2: problems landing somewhere. But he's also a guy that recognizes
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Speaker 2: what's in front of him in terms of the depth chart.
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Speaker 2: And you are a middle linebacker, so is r Vel Reese.
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Speaker 2: Marvel Reese took all of your snaps too. He was
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Speaker 2: almost a co he was he was a co starter,
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Speaker 2: and he's a younger player. So that math checks out
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Speaker 2: doesn't mean Gave Powers has to check out just yet.
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Speaker 1: No, And you know you can. With the way the
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Speaker 1: transfer portal works, there plenty of back channel conversations before
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Speaker 1: guys even go into the portal. So if you've once
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Speaker 1: you've said you're going in the portal, I don't think
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Speaker 1: Ohio State's going to even if he hasn't officially filed
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Speaker 1: the paperwork, if he hasn't filed the paperwork right away
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Speaker 1: on the ninth, I don't think Ohio State's going to be,
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Speaker 1: you know, really chasing someone down in terms of tampering charges,
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Speaker 1: which you could theoretically see in other cases. He's someone
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Speaker 1: you know, you put your name in, you're probably he's
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Speaker 1: probably someone who goes in with a certain subset of
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Speaker 1: schools in mind, where a lot of times it's previous
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Speaker 1: relationships from the high school recruiting process. So is it Cincinnati,
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Speaker 1: is it a Max School, is it a Perdue or
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Speaker 1: Illinois or you know, it could be any of those
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Speaker 1: kinds of schools, and you know you have some existing knowledge,
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Speaker 1: you can you can start you know, the coaches who
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Speaker 1: refer to you out of high school probably still have
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Speaker 1: your number, so you can sort of start having those
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Speaker 1: conversations from that officially kind of pulling.
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Speaker 2: The rip cord and they certainly have your high school
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Speaker 2: coaches numbers. Yeah, that's a lot of how those back
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Speaker 2: channels work.
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Speaker 1: That is how a lot of those back channels work. Yes,
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Speaker 1: so let's talk a little bit about the Ohio State
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Speaker 1: Tennessee matchup, since, boy, there is a certain subset of
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Speaker 1: the Ohio State fan base that has decided that this
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Speaker 1: is going to be terrible no matter. I get the
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Speaker 1: feeling that if they had gotten Boise State in there
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Speaker 1: in the first round somehow, or if they had gotten
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Speaker 1: Clemson in the first round somehow, or if they had
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Speaker 1: somehow got drawn Perdue in the first round, that a
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Speaker 1: lot of the same people would be saying, you know,
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Speaker 1: throwing up their hands and saying, season's over. You have
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Speaker 1: a home game, you have a really interesting matchup. We've
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Speaker 1: put together a graphic real quickly on the on the
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Speaker 1: matchup of the two teams, and statistically it is an
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Speaker 1: interesting matchup. I said, we put together a graphic.
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Speaker 4: No, he post the computer.
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Speaker 3: You took it off, I.
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Speaker 1: Did, okay, Well, never mind, okay, post production, post production,
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Speaker 1: Oh well, oh well, nevertheless, you go through the matchups
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Speaker 1: of the of the team, just in terms of points
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Speaker 1: per game, allow out points per game scored, buck Ey's
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Speaker 1: sixteenth the nation and scoring offense Tennessee eighth, Buckuys first
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Speaker 1: in the nation in scoring defense, Tennessee fourth, Bucky's twenty
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Speaker 1: ninth in the nation. In rushing yards per carry on
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Speaker 1: offense Tennessee twenty sixth, Ohio State ninth in passing yards
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Speaker 1: per attempt Tennessee twenty seventh, Ohio State fifth in rushing
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Speaker 1: yards per carry defense Tennessee fourth, Ohio State eighth in
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Speaker 1: passing yards per attempt defense Tennessee seventeenth. So you look
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Speaker 1: at the rushing numbers and it's like, yeah, it's kind
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Speaker 1: of similar, similar offenses, similar defenses. Buck Eys seem to
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Speaker 1: have an advantage in the passing. Kevin was saying before
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Speaker 1: the show that they had a you had a certain
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Speaker 1: a lot of Tennessee's points were scored run up against
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Speaker 1: non SEC opponents. So you look at you look at
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Speaker 1: Tennessee's offense and say, oh, boy, thirty seven points per
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Speaker 1: game in the SEC. That must be amazing. It's like, well,
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Speaker 1: you did a lot of work against the Kent States
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Speaker 1: of the world.
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Speaker 2: And uteps and things like that. You know, I think, Tom,
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Speaker 2: what this is going to come down to the team
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Speaker 2: that runs the ball wins.
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Speaker 3: So I just to I know that is too soon
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Speaker 3: and I deserve all it that I get for that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think why I say, this is a game
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Speaker 2: where they have an advantage in the past game. But
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Speaker 2: as Ryan Day said, Tennessee has two very good corners,
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Speaker 2: so there is that to deal with, and of course
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Speaker 2: you have to be upright long enough, and you know
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Speaker 2: your footing has to be there to be able to
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Speaker 2: throw the ball against what is going to be a
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Speaker 2: pretty stout defensive front as you would expect. I mean,
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Speaker 2: we can talk about the sec meme all you want,
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Speaker 2: but generally one of the things that they don't lie
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Speaker 2: about is the defensive front.
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Speaker 3: And Tennessee's got some guys.
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Speaker 2: So I boy, I wonder do you see Ohio State
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Speaker 2: running the ball very well and it's when they're meeting
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Speaker 2: their average coming near their average?
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Speaker 3: Because I sure don't.
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Speaker 1: No, I think that they this is a great opportunity
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Speaker 1: to learn from the mistakes of the Michigan game plan
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Speaker 1: and figure out a way to attack some other stuff,
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Speaker 1: because I don't think Tennessee's putting up enormous numbers offensively.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you go through seal a bunch of their
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Speaker 1: SEC games, and fourteen points against Arkansas and seventeen I
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Speaker 1: think against Georgia and fourteen against Georgia. It's just they
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Speaker 1: have not put up enormous numbers against good defenses. And
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Speaker 1: this is a good Ohio State defense. So it just
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Speaker 1: it's really just a matter of keen Ohio State control
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Speaker 1: Tennessee's run game if they can. Nico and Tony, I've
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Speaker 1: been waiting all year for this moment. Nico imava boom, boom.
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Speaker 2: Boom, the Tennessee scoring twenty five points per game in
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Speaker 2: conference play.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and so you look at you look at Tennessee's offense,
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Speaker 1: and I'll just look at Nico iam alaiava. I'm just
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Speaker 1: gonna keep saying.
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Speaker 3: Can I do it once? Let me try it? Nico,
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Speaker 3: go on, all.
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Speaker 1: Right, thank you, thank you, thank you, Kevin, Nico swampe, swampe.
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Speaker 3: There you go.
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Speaker 1: Nico Tony sixty five point seven percent completions and twenty yards,
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Speaker 1: nineteen touchdowns, five interceptions, all of those numbers trail Will Howard.
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Speaker 1: Will Howard five percent or sorry seven six and a
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Speaker 1: half percent higher in completion percentage, about three hundred and
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Speaker 1: fifty more passing yards, eight more touchdowns, and three more interceptions,
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Speaker 1: so just a more throwing for Ohio State. What's interesting
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Speaker 1: is you look at Tennessee's wide receiver unit, and Ohio
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Speaker 1: State has germerous Jeremiah Smith nine hundred and thirty four
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Speaker 1: yards receiving ten touchdowns, a Mecca Abuka seven hundred and
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Speaker 1: forty three yards nine touchdowns. Then comes Tennessee's leading receiver,
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Speaker 1: Dante Thornton twenty five catches, six hundred and forty seven yards,
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Speaker 1: six touchdowns, twenty five point nine yards per catch. That
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Speaker 1: is bananas. And then Carnel Tait, Ohio State's third receiver
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Speaker 1: in terms of receiving yardage, just about sixty yards behind,
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Speaker 1: five hundred and eighty three yards four touchdowns. Everyone else
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Speaker 1: in the Tennessee wide receiver room Brue McCoy, you know,
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Speaker 1: four hundred and thirty two yards two touchdowns, Squirrel three
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Speaker 1: hundred and sixty four yards two touchdowns, Chris Brazzel three
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Speaker 1: and twenty five yards two touchdowns. So tight end Miles
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Speaker 1: Kitzelman two hundred ninety six yards four touchdowns. So just
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Speaker 1: not a lot of big numbers, big plays in the
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Speaker 1: passing game. They've really done it a lot on the ground.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Dylan Sampson is a tough dude looking at Nico
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Speaker 2: im aliva Ava in conference play and not a conference play,
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Speaker 2: completing seventy three percent of his passes outside of conference
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Speaker 2: play seventy sixty three percent in conference play. Three of
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Speaker 2: his five interceptions have come in in conference plays. The
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Speaker 2: UH yards for pass is about two and a half
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Speaker 2: yards less in conference play, like numbers that you would expect.
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Speaker 2: I think that's more. That's where you need to be
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Speaker 2: looking at in terms of what to expect from this
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Speaker 2: Tennessee offense. It's not no offense to UTAP and no
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Speaker 2: offense to even North Carolina State, frankly, but what they've
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Speaker 2: done against that you would expect to happen against Ohire State,
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Speaker 2: especially you know, December first time I did look at
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Speaker 2: the weather for December twenty first, the high for Ohio
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Speaker 2: State at that point, or for Columbus will be about
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Speaker 2: thirty eight degrees. Now, the high night it's gonna be
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Speaker 2: a little bit lower because the sun is.
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Speaker 1: Gone the sun and that's the earliest sunset all year
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Speaker 1: in Columbus. It's it's like December December twenty first, is
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Speaker 1: the shortest day all year, and I'm no questioning myself
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Speaker 1: because I think the earliest sunset is actually slightly earlier,
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Speaker 1: and the sunrise just gets later. It doesn't it doesn't matter.
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Speaker 1: It's the shortest day of the year in Columbus. So
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Speaker 1: the sun's gonna set right around five o'clock, so you
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Speaker 1: got like three hours at night time. I'm going to
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Speaker 1: be ready for bed before the game starts. I'm sorry
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Speaker 1: to tell you I'm old and boring.
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Speaker 3: There will be a postgame.
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Speaker 1: There will be a postgame show. Yes, Oh boy, will
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Speaker 1: there be a postgame yet show? Yes, one way or
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Speaker 1: the other. Oh boy, will there be a post game show?
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Speaker 1: So but yeah, it's this is probably going to be
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Speaker 1: a high twenties. I had seen at one point. Maybe
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Speaker 1: some precipitation didn't look like torrential winds or anything like that.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, ten to fifteen miles on our wins, which
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Speaker 1: is like every game, it feels like. One thing that's
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Speaker 1: interesting about Tennessee and Dylan Samson. Ohio State has done
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Speaker 1: the running back by committee thing. Tennessee has done the
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Speaker 1: running back by Dylan Sampson thing, The Dylan Sampson and
17:14
Speaker 1: Quin Schwan Judkins how many more carries does Dylan did
17:17
Speaker 1: Sampson have than Quinchan Judkins and Travan Henderson together? Oh, okay, combined,
17:23
Speaker 1: Dylan Sampson has more carries than Travon Henderson, Quinch Judkins.
17:26
Speaker 1: How many more does he have?
17:27
Speaker 2: The Well, so they've played twelve games and so he's
17:30
Speaker 2: probably got at least it's probably like a two seventy
17:33
Speaker 2: to eighty So let's say sixteen more carries.
17:38
Speaker 1: One thing, two hundred and fifty six carries for Dylan Samson,
17:41
Speaker 1: Judkins and Henderson together two fifty five. Judkins and Henderson
17:45
Speaker 1: have outrushed him by fifteen fifty six to fourteen eighty five.
17:49
Speaker 1: So there you go, like seventy yards and they've you know,
17:53
Speaker 1: slightly more yards per carry and eight but eight fewer touchdowns.
17:58
Speaker 1: I mean, it is really if you can stop Dylan's Sampson,
18:01
Speaker 1: and it's not easy. If you can stop Dylan Sampson,
18:04
Speaker 1: that's kind of step one to beating Tennessee.
18:06
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
18:07
Speaker 2: And I don't I don't necessarily buy Ohio State's yards
18:10
Speaker 2: per carry right now.
18:11
Speaker 3: Either.
18:12
Speaker 2: So like leading, you know, with a six point or whatever,
18:16
Speaker 2: like get to get to four points something and then
18:19
Speaker 2: and then we can talk consistently. And if Ohio State
18:21
Speaker 2: can do that, then I really really like their chances.
18:24
Speaker 2: Not that they need to, but if they can. But yeah,
18:26
Speaker 2: Dylan Sampson, this is this is one is pretty simple.
18:29
Speaker 2: Stop the run and then whatever else happens.
18:31
Speaker 3: You can live with.
18:32
Speaker 2: Because say what you want about Ohio States corners, the
18:36
Speaker 2: secondary is a good matchup for against most offenses. YEA
18:40
Speaker 2: and Tennessee will I think the biggest test is just
18:43
Speaker 2: going to be the way they spread out the wide splits,
18:46
Speaker 2: the tempo that Tennessee does that you're gonna have to
18:49
Speaker 2: get everybody lined up.
18:50
Speaker 3: You're can have to get everybody righty.
18:51
Speaker 2: The communication has to be on point because the stress
18:54
Speaker 2: level that they create raises the chances of mistakes. And
18:58
Speaker 2: then also the fact that you're still communicating as snaps
19:02
Speaker 2: are coming in, you like, you have to be really
19:04
Speaker 2: really on it, and they're already working on that. Yeah,
19:07
Speaker 2: getting lined up in the communication aspect of things, because
19:11
Speaker 2: I don't know how much Jim Mills is gonna be
19:13
Speaker 2: able to tell them they might have to go back
19:14
Speaker 2: to signals in this game.
19:16
Speaker 1: And what is the atmosphere going to be like if
19:19
Speaker 1: if the Ohio State crowd is there, Tennessee only gets
19:21
Speaker 1: thirty five hundred tickets. Now I suspect there will be
19:25
Speaker 1: more orange in the stadium than thirty five hundred people.
19:27
Speaker 3: Well it's hunting season, but.
19:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, the band, the band would come out of that
19:32
Speaker 1: allotment as well. Teven points out, Now there's gonna be
19:34
Speaker 1: there's gonna be tickets about on the secondary market. Tickets
19:37
Speaker 1: start at one hundred bucks. Sounds like this is all
19:39
Speaker 1: college football playoff pricing, So we'll see what the crowd
19:44
Speaker 1: makeup is. I would certainly expect a strongly Ohio State crowd,
19:49
Speaker 1: you know, eight eighty twenty. If you're getting thirty five
19:51
Speaker 1: hundred tickets, eighty twenty would be seventy five twenty five.
19:54
Speaker 1: That would be like a tremendous showing from Tenny.
19:57
Speaker 2: That would be bad news. That would that would case
20:00
Speaker 2: of malays from the Ohio State fans. And I'm sure
20:02
Speaker 2: there isn't any kind of malays right now. But seriously, if.
20:06
Speaker 1: Do you not know what malaise means, you do not
20:08
Speaker 1: know what sure.
20:11
Speaker 2: But really, this is going to be one of a kind,
20:16
Speaker 2: the first of its kind. Probably not one of a kind,
20:19
Speaker 2: maybe but as I sometimes I'll tweet out when I
20:23
Speaker 2: get to a big game or whatever, where where else
20:26
Speaker 2: in the world would you rather be? And this is
20:28
Speaker 2: one of those situations where you're going to see a
20:31
Speaker 2: playoff game in Ohio Stadium and it doesn't sound like
20:33
Speaker 2: the ticket's going to be outrageous. I don't know that
20:35
Speaker 2: they can make them outrageous at this point.
20:37
Speaker 1: No, no, Well, and you've got the tickets are right
20:41
Speaker 1: now on sale to major donors and that kind of stuff.
20:44
Speaker 1: There's there's a link for them. They go on sale
20:47
Speaker 1: to the public on Thursday. So if you want to
20:49
Speaker 1: see one of the most important games in Ohio State
20:52
Speaker 1: football history inside Ohio Stadium setting you've never seen before
20:55
Speaker 1: at night, I mean, this is this is your chance
20:57
Speaker 1: to do it.
21:00
Speaker 4: Bounce for the series. It's going to be a Herbian
21:02
Speaker 4: Fowler game.
21:03
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not even remotely surprising that it's a Herbian
21:05
Speaker 1: Fowler game for that because this is when we looked
21:08
Speaker 1: at the potential matchups, it was like, boy, they're going
21:11
Speaker 1: to have a real tough time not putting Notre Dame
21:14
Speaker 1: in primetime on one night in Ohio State in primetime.
21:16
Speaker 1: On the other night, Notre Dame in primetime on Friday night,
21:19
Speaker 1: even when they're playing Indiana, which is not a big draw,
21:22
Speaker 1: that's going to be a pretty consequential, pretty significant match
21:25
Speaker 1: up there.
21:25
Speaker 3: We anytime you can double up on the Indianapolis market. Yeah.
21:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, and one thing that we should explain, just
21:33
Speaker 1: because this is something we've been talking about for a while,
21:35
Speaker 1: but I feel like some people are kind of just
21:36
Speaker 1: getting plugged in on this. The Friday night and the
21:39
Speaker 1: Saturday night games are ESPN broadcasts. The Saturday afternoon games
21:43
Speaker 1: which are the Penn State and SMU or Clemson Penn State, Clemson,
21:49
Speaker 1: Texas SMU.
21:51
Speaker 3: We did that, Penn State SMU.
21:53
Speaker 1: Penn State SMU the other one, yes, okay, and those
21:58
Speaker 1: are going to be Saturday afternoon. Those games are going
21:59
Speaker 1: to be so Penn State, Kenny, Kenny, what's to deal
22:06
Speaker 1: with this? With this tight end it is, it's going
22:10
Speaker 1: to be a it's going to be I'm sure a
22:13
Speaker 1: delighted Penn State fan base to get another noon kickoff
22:15
Speaker 1: for another big game.
22:16
Speaker 3: But hey, you're in the playoffs and you have a
22:18
Speaker 3: pretty good draw.
22:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. Do we have questions
22:22
Speaker 1: we want to get through? Oh before we get to questions,
22:25
Speaker 1: one more thing, one more thing. It just to help
22:28
Speaker 1: with the malaise that Tony Lyingley says is not there. Tennessee.
22:32
Speaker 1: Tennessee's kicker Max Gilbert nineteen of twenty five on field goals,
22:35
Speaker 1: including zero for three versus Kentucky and then four for
22:38
Speaker 1: four versus Mississippi State the next week. So how is
22:42
Speaker 1: his consistency? Hashtag get college kickers. So there you go.
22:46
Speaker 3: It sounds perfect on those two kicks those two games.
22:49
Speaker 5: First question from Rick s. Anybody going to check Tennessee fleets?
22:54
Speaker 4: That's time.
22:55
Speaker 2: That is a great question, Tom. I heard somebody mentioned
22:58
Speaker 2: about that. Know how many people understand or know the
23:02
Speaker 2: reference about the Tennessee cleats from the nineteen ninety five
23:04
Speaker 2: Citrus Bowl And it was rainy, it was a little sloppy.
23:10
Speaker 2: Tennessee had illegal cleats. It was known to everybody. Afterwards,
23:13
Speaker 2: the refs, they John Cooper like mentioned it to the
23:17
Speaker 2: refs and nothing was done. The game should have been
23:20
Speaker 2: thrown out completely and Ohio say, probably should have gotten
23:23
Speaker 2: a share of the national championship. But no, the Tennessee
23:27
Speaker 2: volunteers doing what the SEC does completely cheating and wearing
23:31
Speaker 2: illegal cleats. Completely illegal, and their footing was much better
23:34
Speaker 2: for it. So I don't think they should. Frankly, that
23:39
Speaker 2: is the legacy of the University of Tennessee. Say what
23:41
Speaker 2: you want about all of the research they've done. I
23:43
Speaker 2: don't know if they've done any They may have done
23:45
Speaker 2: some medical research. Still it comes back to illegal cleats.
23:48
Speaker 2: I thought this was a sportsmanship. I thought this is
23:50
Speaker 2: a sporting thing, celebrating the season and the win.
23:53
Speaker 3: It all costs.
23:55
Speaker 2: Manner of the Tennessee volunteers never ceases to disgust me
23:59
Speaker 2: and amaze me.
24:01
Speaker 1: Imagine the disgrace of taking the focus away from the
24:04
Speaker 1: Florida citrus industry toning during their big day.
24:07
Speaker 2: Right, yes, making it about Tennessee, but it should be
24:10
Speaker 2: about the Florida Orange farmers.
24:11
Speaker 1: Tennessee is Tony is kidding ladies and gentlemen from the
24:14
Speaker 1: state of Tennessee. I'm not sure if you're familiar with
24:15
Speaker 1: the concept of sarcasm, but yes, so that was.
24:18
Speaker 3: The Tennessee thing.
24:19
Speaker 2: Like, that's why a lot of people in the lodging
24:20
Speaker 2: may not have any idea of what thirty years ago.
24:23
Speaker 3: Really who cares?
24:25
Speaker 5: Wow?
24:25
Speaker 1: That was also one fun note from that game was
24:28
Speaker 1: those two teams were exactly tied in the ap pole
24:31
Speaker 1: going in, So it was number four Ohio State versus
24:33
Speaker 1: number four Tennessee, which was one of the random, great
24:36
Speaker 1: random kidbits of Ohio State history.
24:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, another loss to the SEC in a bowl game
24:41
Speaker 2: for the for the buck Eye's way back.
24:42
Speaker 5: When next one from El Susabo, I hope they played
24:46
Speaker 5: with tempo this time.
24:48
Speaker 2: Well, here's my thought, tom El Susabo saying hopes they
24:51
Speaker 2: played with tempo. Do you know Tennessee's going to play
24:54
Speaker 2: with tempo? Does Ohio State need to dial it back
24:57
Speaker 2: a little bit to give their defense and oportunity to
25:00
Speaker 2: get some rest so that you don't also go at
25:03
Speaker 2: Temple and go three and out. Now day what Ryan
25:05
Speaker 2: Day is gonna want to be aggressive and swing away
25:08
Speaker 2: and all of that, but you do also have to
25:10
Speaker 2: worry about your defense.
25:11
Speaker 1: So what do you think, Well, I don't think you
25:14
Speaker 1: need to go tempo for fifty snaps, but I think
25:16
Speaker 1: you need to be situationally. Go for Temple, you pick
25:19
Speaker 1: up a first down and then hey, hustle up and
25:22
Speaker 1: move and start starting to get the ball.
25:23
Speaker 3: Rolling a little bit.
25:24
Speaker 5: I would agree with that, But what it comes down
25:26
Speaker 5: to is that you have to sit there and stay
25:28
Speaker 5: on schedule. Can't go for minus one on first down,
25:31
Speaker 5: and then you can't run tempo because you're already behind
25:33
Speaker 5: the chains.
25:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, Tennessee having a good offensive line that this would
25:36
Speaker 1: be game number two in a row where I would
25:37
Speaker 1: advise Ohio State to not run the ball between the
25:40
Speaker 1: tackles a whole time when you have probable advantages in
25:44
Speaker 1: other places on the field.
25:46
Speaker 4: I could cure lead perfectly into drowsy dragon. We got
25:50
Speaker 4: this a day. Just plays to our strengths.
25:54
Speaker 2: It sounded like that was one of the messages that
25:56
Speaker 2: he put out there when with these games where you
25:58
Speaker 2: get into the playoffs and you got to win however
26:03
Speaker 2: you can, but then why not use your strikes to
26:06
Speaker 2: get it done? And I think Ohio State, there's you're
26:09
Speaker 2: not gonna talked about the the over correction of fixing
26:13
Speaker 2: something that happened last game, and like they're not going
26:15
Speaker 2: to do that, but you do recognize where the advantages
26:18
Speaker 2: that you have you have to make better use of
26:20
Speaker 2: them in this one, and I would expect them to
26:22
Speaker 2: do that and maybe do some force feeding to the receivers.
26:25
Speaker 2: But then also Tennessee is probably expecting that as well.
26:27
Speaker 2: But they can't defend everything, and if they do, then
26:31
Speaker 2: that's your.
26:32
Speaker 1: Fault, right, Yeah, if everything is covered at all times,
26:35
Speaker 1: then you have bigger problems. They're probably not going to
26:37
Speaker 1: win the game. But yeah, I mean a lot of
26:40
Speaker 1: the stuff that we've talked about dempo finding advantageous matchups
26:45
Speaker 1: and taking advantage of them. You don't have to. You
26:47
Speaker 1: can use your wide receiver talent to run the ball
26:50
Speaker 1: as well. We've seen that done with great success at
26:52
Speaker 1: times this season. And I think the other thing you've
26:55
Speaker 1: got to look at is Ryan Day has in a
26:58
Speaker 1: lot of these big games eight to go forward on
27:00
Speaker 1: fourth down against Rutgers. A lot of times he's sort
27:04
Speaker 1: of defaulted to, well, it's a close game and I
27:06
Speaker 1: don't want to make the big mistake here. And so
27:09
Speaker 1: there's been a lot of punts and situations where against
27:12
Speaker 1: lesser opponents it's not necessarily the game's not necessarily being
27:16
Speaker 1: managed that way. That leads to a lot of close games.
27:19
Speaker 1: What was their mantra this year? Leave no doubt? So
27:22
Speaker 1: you ended up by punting in a bunch of situations
27:25
Speaker 1: and having bad field position because of Special Team's mistakes.
27:28
Speaker 1: You ended up leaving doubt in the Michigan game, and
27:30
Speaker 1: Michigan capitalized on that and the Ohio State wasn't able to.
27:34
Speaker 1: So if you can get a little bit of separate,
27:37
Speaker 1: get a two score lead at some point and make
27:39
Speaker 1: Tennessee play from behind, because if that really takes away
27:41
Speaker 1: Tennessee's strength, and then you want to make Tennessee play
27:44
Speaker 1: left handed. And so you got to come out hot.
27:46
Speaker 1: You got to go have a good first drive, but
27:48
Speaker 1: actually punch it in. Don't kick a field goal, don't
27:50
Speaker 1: settle for field You at this point should not be
27:53
Speaker 1: settling for thirty five plus yard field goals. That's not
27:58
Speaker 1: You should never be running the ball on third down
28:00
Speaker 1: to set up a thirty five yard plus field goal
28:03
Speaker 1: because the kicking conditions are not going to be great
28:04
Speaker 1: that night. You know what you got, Like you cannot
28:08
Speaker 1: sign a kicker off the wave of wire. So you've
28:10
Speaker 1: got it. You've got to you know what you got.
28:12
Speaker 1: You got to manage. You got to call plays on
28:15
Speaker 1: second and third down to reflect the fact that you
28:17
Speaker 1: should be going forward on fourth down.
28:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, and Day talked about, well, you gotta
28:21
Speaker 2: you score points in these games. You need to score
28:23
Speaker 2: points in terms of the playoffs, where in the past
28:26
Speaker 2: he said you need to score forty to have really
28:28
Speaker 2: a chance to win. It's not quite the same, but
28:31
Speaker 2: points obviously are still very important, and I'm with you, Yeah,
28:36
Speaker 2: do you play a little bit conservatively because of the conditions,
28:39
Speaker 2: And it's like thirteen points might win this, so you know,
28:42
Speaker 2: so then you're you're.
28:43
Speaker 1: I would not advise you to play for thirteen points.
28:45
Speaker 2: Right, Well, that's all it takes sometimes, but like anything, yeah,
28:50
Speaker 2: anything short of like you know, fourth and nine, fourth,
28:53
Speaker 2: fourth and eleven. Then you're like, yeah, we probably should kick.
28:56
Speaker 2: But like, you have so many plays in your playbook
28:59
Speaker 2: that will pick up the nine yards that you need,
29:02
Speaker 2: and you don't know how many times you're going to
29:04
Speaker 2: be down there, And you can't view being at the
29:06
Speaker 2: thirty as scoring territory because then you're kind of settling
29:10
Speaker 2: if we can just get to that point, Like, no,
29:11
Speaker 2: you've got to go beyond that point. And once you
29:14
Speaker 2: get to the point where you're like, well, this is
29:15
Speaker 2: a this is an easy kick, then you keep going yeah,
29:18
Speaker 2: because I don't think three field goals are going to
29:21
Speaker 2: do you much in this one.
29:22
Speaker 1: No, this is this is one where I mean, we'll
29:25
Speaker 1: we'll take a deeper dive. But just my initial thought
29:28
Speaker 1: is first team to thirty wins period, full stop. Don't
29:30
Speaker 1: I don't see both teams get in the thirty and
29:32
Speaker 1: it might be first team to twenty seven. It just
29:36
Speaker 1: this just feels. I think the over under was something
29:38
Speaker 1: around forty five or forty six, something like that, and
29:41
Speaker 1: Ohivestate was favored by about a touchdown on the opening line,
29:45
Speaker 1: so that would give you like an Ohio State twenty eight,
29:49
Speaker 1: Tennessee twenty kind of game something like that, twenty seven
29:55
Speaker 1: to twenty something in that neighborhood. That feels about right
29:58
Speaker 1: to me. And total forty yeah, total forty seven and
30:02
Speaker 1: a favor like so there you go. So so I
30:05
Speaker 1: landed on exactly the right number, twenty seven. So that's
30:08
Speaker 1: that's probably the number you should be thinking. You know, hey,
30:11
Speaker 1: you're not do not expect to win seventeen fourteen, Like
30:14
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to get to the mid to high
30:17
Speaker 1: twenties to win this game. So you see the weather,
30:19
Speaker 1: well sure, okay, and if.
30:21
Speaker 3: Weather's bad, then it's like you really don't want to
30:23
Speaker 3: kick field.
30:23
Speaker 1: Goals, right, yeah, Well then it comes down to special
30:26
Speaker 1: teams and how you know. I mean, but both teams.
30:28
Speaker 3: Are kind of going what was the date of the
30:30
Speaker 3: snowball term.
30:32
Speaker 1: Nineteen fifty that's a year November, not November something or other.
30:38
Speaker 1: This is the first home game in Ohio Stadium in
30:40
Speaker 1: December in history, which I thought that can't be right.
30:42
Speaker 1: Certainly they played when in December in twenty twenty, but
30:44
Speaker 1: they had I think that was the Michigan State game,
30:49
Speaker 1: and then I think they had one more that got Maryland.
30:53
Speaker 1: Maryland got I think Maryland was earlier in the year,
30:55
Speaker 1: but they had Michigan State and then they had the
30:57
Speaker 1: Michigan game that got canceled, and that that would have
31:00
Speaker 1: been probably the first two weekends in December that year.
31:03
Speaker 1: I saw that, and I'm like, is that right? That
31:04
Speaker 1: can't be right, But yes, apparently it is right.
31:07
Speaker 3: Yeah, night game December. It's gonna be fantastic.
31:11
Speaker 4: Is answering a question?
31:13
Speaker 5: Odysseus Tempo and speed option also played both Judkins and
31:17
Speaker 5: Henderson in a tee.
31:19
Speaker 1: So tempo and speed option and play Judkins and Anderson
31:24
Speaker 1: in a tee. I don't know has anyone run the
31:27
Speaker 1: up tempo T formation offense before? I mean, we could
31:31
Speaker 1: be making additional college football history. I don't I don't
31:35
Speaker 1: know that. I mean, you're gonna have to run the
31:38
Speaker 1: ball some Like, you can't just run fifty three plays
31:42
Speaker 1: and you throw it forty nine times and the other
31:44
Speaker 1: three are quarterback scrambles when receivers are covers or sacks, like,
31:48
Speaker 1: you can't do that, but you're gonna have to. And again,
31:51
Speaker 1: we'll find out what the weather is when we get
31:53
Speaker 1: a little closer. But you're gonna have to run the
31:55
Speaker 1: ball some they're gonna have to. They have to just
31:57
Speaker 1: find something and then they have to stick with it.
32:00
Speaker 1: I mean the pause option. I did a show with
32:02
Speaker 1: Ross and the last week they ran that pause option once.
32:06
Speaker 1: It went for like fifteen seventeen yards and then they
32:07
Speaker 1: never went back to it. They never iterated on it
32:10
Speaker 1: with like a my action look off of it. It
32:12
Speaker 1: just was like, oh, that worked.
32:15
Speaker 3: Well.
32:17
Speaker 2: I don't want to say one then what yeah, yeah, yeah,
32:20
Speaker 2: Like the I think the tempo is a way to
32:24
Speaker 2: go because it is effective. Defenses don't like it, and
32:27
Speaker 2: so if some defense doesn't like it, to it. But
32:30
Speaker 2: also they're going to be looking at everything Tennessee has
32:32
Speaker 2: done this season and what running attacks have been successful
32:36
Speaker 2: against Tennessee. How does what Ohio State do mirror that?
32:41
Speaker 2: How can they implement some things like that and get outside?
32:44
Speaker 2: Then you can do that in the tea. We've seen
32:46
Speaker 2: that before you get the lead blocker they're going and
32:49
Speaker 2: of course, you know the speed option. I'll be surprised
32:51
Speaker 2: if we don't see that, But that is also something
32:53
Speaker 2: that Tennessee will be waiting for as well, because they're
32:56
Speaker 2: going to be looking at what is Ohio State's successful
32:58
Speaker 2: runs been. Okay, well, we know we're going to see.
33:01
Speaker 1: That, right well, and that's where we haven't seen. We've
33:05
Speaker 1: seen this a bunch over the years where the team
33:07
Speaker 1: is running the speed option and the quarterback takes two
33:11
Speaker 1: steps forward and then dips or takes one step forward
33:13
Speaker 1: and then dips, and then the running back heaps running
33:15
Speaker 1: and then you drop back and you throw a play
33:17
Speaker 1: action pass out of that. This is you know, this
33:21
Speaker 1: is we're not we're not asking for, you know, a
33:23
Speaker 1: reinvention of the wheel here, like you have, you have
33:25
Speaker 1: opportunities there to do you know, further iterations off of that.
33:29
Speaker 1: So then you run the speed option once and if
33:31
Speaker 1: it works, then that's the next time you do it,
33:33
Speaker 1: and then it probably opens something up for that again.
33:36
Speaker 1: It just you've got to kind of keep building on that.
33:39
Speaker 1: And my expectation Ryan Day has done a pretty good
33:42
Speaker 1: job coming off of losses when they have had something
33:44
Speaker 1: to play for, they have done a pretty good job of,
33:49
Speaker 1: you know, coming out and looking like they know what
33:52
Speaker 1: they're doing. They the Rose Bowl against Utah, they started slow,
33:57
Speaker 1: but they they really hit the gas in that game.
34:01
Speaker 1: Georgia the next year, they really hit the gas in
34:04
Speaker 1: that game. Last year against against Missouri is kind of
34:08
Speaker 1: the obvious exception, and there's plenty of reasons to treat
34:11
Speaker 1: that as the you know, you're not just discarding that
34:14
Speaker 1: data because it's you know, not favorable to the Ohio state.
34:18
Speaker 1: You're discarding that data because, well, you had to really
34:21
Speaker 1: shuffle your offensive line again, and then you also had
34:25
Speaker 1: your second string quarterback get hurt, and your third string guy,
34:28
Speaker 1: who everyone sort of universe versus acknowledge wasn't ready to
34:32
Speaker 1: get thrown into that moment, get thrown into that moment,
34:34
Speaker 1: and then he has to deal with there's a pass rush.
34:37
Speaker 1: There are guys wearing black jerseys in this a gap, real, real,
34:40
Speaker 1: frequently and not great yeah.
34:42
Speaker 2: And linkol Keenolston have his black jersey on, like he
34:45
Speaker 2: got let up and you saw how ready he was
34:47
Speaker 2: last year by how little he has played this year. Yeah, yeah,
34:50
Speaker 2: So now that guy was getting a bunch of snaps
34:52
Speaker 2: in that game. And that game is just a footnote
34:55
Speaker 2: and it was not representative really anything to me. It's
34:58
Speaker 2: just one of those games it gets tossed away because
35:00
Speaker 2: it's not the same team that was there during the season,
35:03
Speaker 2: and you're gonna have that with many ball games this year.
35:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. Anything else.
35:09
Speaker 4: We got several.
35:12
Speaker 5: Brandon Boyd Tennessee is around one hundred and first in
35:15
Speaker 5: the country and passing yards allowed, saying their corners are
35:17
Speaker 5: good with just a diversion.
35:20
Speaker 1: Well, I mean Tennessee is one hundred and first in
35:23
Speaker 1: passing yards allowed.
35:25
Speaker 3: We know how we feel about passing yards.
35:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean total total yardage. I don't really look
35:29
Speaker 1: at if you're up on teams, you're gonna have a
35:33
Speaker 1: bunch of passing yards. Yards per attempt is a much
35:37
Speaker 1: better way to measure that, because then if a team's
35:41
Speaker 1: running tempo, if a team's way behind and just throwing
35:44
Speaker 1: it on every down, that sort of accounts for that
35:46
Speaker 1: they are seventeenth in the country in pass yards per
35:50
Speaker 1: yards per attempt. A higher state is eighth five point
35:52
Speaker 1: eight yards per ATTMP against O higher state six point
35:54
Speaker 1: one against Tennessee. So you know, if you view a
35:57
Speaker 1: higher states pass defense as pretty good, then great news
36:02
Speaker 1: Tennessee is you know, slightly worse. If you go Ohio
36:05
Speaker 1: State's pass defense as bad, and I know that some
36:08
Speaker 1: people do facts be damned that, then great news. Tennessee's
36:13
Speaker 1: is worse than that. So not a lot worse, but comparable.
36:16
Speaker 1: And neither team has been playing fantastic passing attacks all year.
36:21
Speaker 1: It's outside of Oregon, Ohios it really has not played
36:24
Speaker 1: a particularly great passing attack, and they're not really going
36:27
Speaker 1: to face a particularly great passing attack against Tennessee. This
36:31
Speaker 1: is going to be the best passing attack that Tennessee
36:33
Speaker 1: faces all year, I would think, I mean outside of
36:36
Speaker 1: you know, Arkansas, right well, right, it's it's like Alabama
36:41
Speaker 1: is you know, Alabama has a good offense, but not
36:44
Speaker 1: an incredibly dynamic passing attack. George's passing attack is.
36:49
Speaker 3: It depends on what day?
36:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, well yeah, that was yeah, yeah, Tennessee. You know,
36:56
Speaker 1: they they're the defense again the high The high level
36:59
Speaker 1: numbers are good, but it's like you can look at
37:02
Speaker 1: you can look at the numbers and make them say
37:04
Speaker 1: whatever you want to. Tony. I want to know what's
37:07
Speaker 1: Tennessee's record against teams above five hundred. That's really the
37:10
Speaker 1: only number that I care about.
37:12
Speaker 3: I'll have to research that and get back to you.
37:13
Speaker 3: Thank you, Kevin.
37:14
Speaker 5: Yeah, Lisa Simms, can our team figure out how to
37:20
Speaker 5: come out and play fast for the first time this season?
37:22
Speaker 4: For this game?
37:25
Speaker 1: Can Ohio State come out and play fast for the
37:28
Speaker 1: first time this season? I mean they came out and
37:29
Speaker 1: played fast against Michigan. They had a good They started well,
37:35
Speaker 1: they went right down the field, and then they got
37:37
Speaker 1: and they went boom down the field, throwing the ball,
37:40
Speaker 1: had Michigan on their back foot, and then decided time.
37:42
Speaker 3: To run run it. Oh I just want to run it.
37:46
Speaker 1: That's That was one where I was rewatching and I'm like,
37:49
Speaker 1: I know, they don't score a touchdown here? How did
37:51
Speaker 1: they How did they manage to not score a touchdown
37:53
Speaker 1: on this drive when they're just going boom boom boom,
37:55
Speaker 1: And I was like, well, I mean the red zone
37:56
Speaker 1: time to run like this is an opportunity talk just
38:01
Speaker 1: a minute of you. They have used these losses late
38:03
Speaker 1: season losses, and they've learned from them, and they have
38:06
Speaker 1: not generally made the same mistake again. So you would
38:09
Speaker 1: assume you're not going to see the same mistake again
38:12
Speaker 1: against Tennessee as you saw against Michigan.
38:16
Speaker 2: He said, Noistically, I would agree with that. And if
38:20
Speaker 2: you do the same thing over and you lose again
38:23
Speaker 2: for the same reasons, then I mean, what do we what.
38:25
Speaker 3: Are we doing here at this point?
38:26
Speaker 1: Well, there will not be a shortage of content if
38:29
Speaker 1: that happens.
38:30
Speaker 2: No, I would expect some changes, some aggression there and
38:33
Speaker 2: and some positive results. And can they get out to
38:36
Speaker 2: a fast start? This is one where you're definitely deferring
38:38
Speaker 2: if you win the toss and letting the Tennessee offense
38:41
Speaker 2: get out there first and just let the Ohio State
38:44
Speaker 2: fan base get after them and create the momentum ran
38:47
Speaker 2: they talked about with this game. It's the first game
38:50
Speaker 2: where you can just grab some momentum and just keep
38:52
Speaker 2: going like an NFL wildcard team that just keeps winning.
38:55
Speaker 2: And it's it's gonna start with the fans and feeding
38:58
Speaker 2: off of each other. And yeah, I don't think you
39:01
Speaker 2: want to have anything to do with being an offense first.
39:03
Speaker 2: But if you are, then go right down and build
39:05
Speaker 2: the momentum that way and get out fast. And this
39:08
Speaker 2: is your script. You should should never script a three
39:11
Speaker 2: and out good advice. So I don't know if they're
39:15
Speaker 2: trying to like they are you available for consulting.
39:18
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm here, I'm around, you have my number.
39:21
Speaker 1: Well, and I think there's also a certain amount. I
39:23
Speaker 1: look at a couple of recent Michigan games, three recent
39:25
Speaker 1: Michigan games, and one of them was last year's Ohios
39:30
Speaker 1: State Michigan game where Comic Cord is trying to throw
39:33
Speaker 1: to Marvin Harrison and throws an interception and it sets
39:35
Speaker 1: up a whatever five yard Michigan touchdown drive. And then
39:39
Speaker 1: I look at this year's Michigan game where Well Howard
39:42
Speaker 1: is trying to throw a quick out and to Carnel
39:45
Speaker 1: Tate and it gets intercepted and it sets up a
39:46
Speaker 1: two yard touchdown drive and you're just handing the opponent
39:50
Speaker 1: seven points. And I go back to last year's Rose
39:52
Speaker 1: Bowl where Caleb Down's current Ohio State safety and then
39:55
Speaker 1: Alabama safety intercepted the first pass of the game from
39:59
Speaker 1: JJMC first past the game and his toe came to
40:03
Speaker 1: was it either he stepped out before he intercepted it
40:05
Speaker 1: or his toe hit the white on the sideline, and
40:08
Speaker 1: it was it was ruled an interception and then rightly
40:11
Speaker 1: overturned on replay. But if his toe was that, you know,
40:15
Speaker 1: to the Jim harball, If his toe was not not
40:18
Speaker 1: even that far just a little close, a little further
40:21
Speaker 1: out on the field, not on the sideline, that completely
40:23
Speaker 1: changes that game immediately from day one. It's just from
40:26
Speaker 1: play one. If you get an early turnover, that's a
40:30
Speaker 1: you know, you want to get the fan base to
40:32
Speaker 1: do the here we go again turn it over if
40:35
Speaker 1: you want to get the fan base into it and
40:36
Speaker 1: really potentially put Tennessee on their back foot. Where you
40:39
Speaker 1: get a short field, you score some early points. Whether
40:42
Speaker 1: you know whether Ohio State has scored already or not,
40:45
Speaker 1: you get you get some early points. Niko Iamalaiava is
40:49
Speaker 1: a second year quarterback. He is not you know, this
40:52
Speaker 1: is not a long term veteran guy. This is not
40:55
Speaker 1: a guy who's been super duper incredibly.
40:58
Speaker 3: Consistent Stetsan Bennett who's seen that everything.
41:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you've got you have opportunities to rattle brattle him.
41:05
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it will not be the first
41:07
Speaker 1: time he's played in a big game, but this is
41:09
Speaker 1: going to be the biggest game he's played in, and
41:11
Speaker 1: it's going to be probably the most hostile or one
41:13
Speaker 1: of the most hostile atmospheres he's played in. So you
41:16
Speaker 1: get one of those early turnovers, and that's you know,
41:18
Speaker 1: and it's really trite to say, like, well, what if
41:21
Speaker 1: a key is the game win? The turnover battle is okay,
41:23
Speaker 1: but like literally, don't throw an interception that hands the
41:26
Speaker 1: opponent seven points early in the game, and that is
41:29
Speaker 1: that Those that would have changed Tony both of the
41:31
Speaker 1: last couple of Michigan games, and had Michigan's interception been
41:36
Speaker 1: intercepted in downs, probably would have changed the Rose.
41:38
Speaker 3: Bowl last year as well. Are you available for consulting?
41:41
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I am.
41:46
Speaker 5: Orange visor, who was a Tennessee fan, says the line
41:49
Speaker 5: came out with Ohio State minus six and a half.
41:51
Speaker 5: I've also seen it at seven. Y'all think you cover?
41:54
Speaker 1: So does Ohio State cover six and a half?
41:58
Speaker 3: I like six and a half better than seven?
41:59
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, let me look at the forecast. If it's
42:07
Speaker 1: clear and dry and not too windy, that favors Ohio State.
42:11
Speaker 1: If the weather is windier and there's precipitation, that probably
42:15
Speaker 1: favors Tennessee, which is a little more run heavy. The
42:20
Speaker 1: bad weather probably keeps a score lower. A lower score
42:23
Speaker 1: favors Tennessee. You know, Tennessee's Tennessee is much more likely
42:27
Speaker 1: to win the game twenty to seventeen than they are
42:29
Speaker 1: to win at thirty five thirty one.
42:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, think I've got mad like twenty one seventeen, twenty
42:34
Speaker 2: four to twenty something of that nature. So I would probably,
42:38
Speaker 2: I'd probably take the points. But that's that's that's a
42:42
Speaker 2: day of game thing.
42:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, eight night of game. I mean, right now,
42:45
Speaker 1: initial thought is take the points and take the under probably,
42:48
Speaker 1: and it's probably just that's just. But also, how much
42:53
Speaker 1: of this is Brian DA's approach to the game, the
42:56
Speaker 1: Ohio State coaching staff's approach to the game. Are they
42:58
Speaker 1: going to be trying to hit some big stuff early?
43:00
Speaker 1: Because if you try to hit some big stuff early,
43:02
Speaker 1: you could run with it. Yeah, if you hit a
43:04
Speaker 1: couple of big ones early, then you get Tennessee really
43:07
Speaker 1: off on the bat on the wrong foot and then
43:09
Speaker 1: you're making them play left handed on offense. But that's
43:12
Speaker 1: you know, that's very easy to say about every game,
43:14
Speaker 1: and it has not happened in most of these games.
43:17
Speaker 1: So my tendency is to say it's probably relatively close,
43:22
Speaker 1: which therefore makes team coaches play a little more conservatively,
43:25
Speaker 1: a little closer to the vest, which therefore makes it
43:27
Speaker 1: a lower scoring game, which therefore makes it a higher,
43:29
Speaker 1: higher variance game, and therefore you take the points and
43:32
Speaker 1: you take.
43:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you're coaching thinking this is going to be
43:34
Speaker 2: a twenty four to twenty game, tob be surprised when
43:36
Speaker 2: it's a twenty four to twenty game because you're of
43:39
Speaker 2: the the whole selfaulfully prophecy thing there. That's the way
43:41
Speaker 2: you've coached it.
43:42
Speaker 5: Yeah, Next one, Jordan b crazy that if we go
43:48
Speaker 5: to the championship game against Chock, we've played Oregon on
43:51
Speaker 5: the West coast, Texas and Dallas and Georgia in Atlanta.
43:55
Speaker 1: That's that is crazy, and that's but you you have
44:00
Speaker 1: lost your ability to complain about that, like you had
44:02
Speaker 1: you controlled your own destiny two weeks ago and you
44:07
Speaker 1: lost thirteen to ten to a team that is was
44:09
Speaker 1: six and five.
44:10
Speaker 3: So you have lost.
44:11
Speaker 1: You have lost the ability to complain about that. So
44:13
Speaker 1: now now you got to win the games. You gotta win.
44:15
Speaker 1: And this skinning just came into Ohio Stadium and beat
44:18
Speaker 1: Ohio State in Columbus. So beating Texas in you know,
44:22
Speaker 1: beating Oregon on the West Coast, sure, beating Texas in
44:25
Speaker 1: the Cotton Bowl, suore beating Georgia in Atlanta Shore. I mean,
44:30
Speaker 1: guess what, you had a chance to have an easier path,
44:32
Speaker 1: and you lost to Michigan. So if they could if
44:35
Speaker 1: they had just beaten Michigan and lost to Oregon, they'd
44:38
Speaker 1: have a substantially easier path. So don't don't complain to me.
44:43
Speaker 2: Noah and Ryan Day said the same thing, like once
44:45
Speaker 2: you the only thing that you could control, like is
44:49
Speaker 2: winning your conference, and then after that you're just you're
44:53
Speaker 2: floating on the breeze of whatever the committee wants to
44:55
Speaker 2: do with you. So he's he's not all shocks. You know,
44:57
Speaker 2: we should have been this, or we should have been that.
44:59
Speaker 2: It's like we should have won the.
45:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and I know there's a lot of different
45:04
Speaker 1: ways the committee could have gone with things. We talked
45:06
Speaker 1: about this a little bit on the Instant Reaction Show.
45:08
Speaker 1: But there were a lot of different ways you could
45:10
Speaker 1: evaluate teams. And do you want to look at the
45:12
Speaker 1: best wins that leads you to one set of results
45:14
Speaker 1: in that Ohio State probably is in a much better
45:16
Speaker 1: spot in that one. Do you want to look at
45:20
Speaker 1: the overall Do you just want to look at strength
45:22
Speaker 1: of schedule, Well, Ohio State's probably pretty solid there. Do
45:25
Speaker 1: you just want to look at bad losses? And boy,
45:27
Speaker 1: bad losses slash recent losses seems like where they where
45:31
Speaker 1: they sort of defaulted because Alabama, which had a bad loss,
45:34
Speaker 1: they're out Ohio State which just had a bad loss.
45:37
Speaker 1: They just went from number two in the nation a
45:39
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago and now they're the eighth seed
45:40
Speaker 1: in the tournament. So it is they were at least
45:44
Speaker 1: intellectually consistent. I think you can certainly you can argue with, hey,
45:49
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have decided it this way, or hey, this
45:51
Speaker 1: sets up a bad precedent for the future because XYZ.
45:54
Speaker 1: But they were intellectually consistent. This was not There have
45:58
Speaker 1: been plenty of years that we have looked at the
46:00
Speaker 1: rankings at the end of the year and gone, well,
46:02
Speaker 1: you put this team here because of this, but you
46:04
Speaker 1: put this team here because of that and then they
46:06
Speaker 1: were consistent and that's really all you can ask.
46:08
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that tele conference is going on right now,
46:10
Speaker 2: and I wouldn't assume that there'd be too much, like
46:14
Speaker 2: there's controversy, but.
46:15
Speaker 1: Like Tony, let me introduce you the state of Alabama.
46:18
Speaker 2: Well, and that's the thing, but it's like they were,
46:20
Speaker 2: it was all uniform. They valued the conference championship games
46:24
Speaker 2: above everything else. And that's what that's the bracket you got.
46:27
Speaker 4: Yeah, another one balls fan, old smoky ball.
46:32
Speaker 5: As a ballfan, what are you most concerned about when
46:34
Speaker 5: it comes playing ut What do you think is OSU's
46:37
Speaker 5: biggest advantage?
46:39
Speaker 1: So biggest concern from Ohio States perspective, But Tennessee, Tony,
46:44
Speaker 1: Let's just say what, let's the unit on Tennessee team
46:46
Speaker 1: that's the biggest concern. Let's just say the same thing
46:49
Speaker 1: at the same time. Ready, one, two, three, defensive.
46:55
Speaker 2: Defensive line. No, and it's it's that it's stopping the run,
47:00
Speaker 2: Dylan Sampson. But it's the Tennessee defensive line and not
47:03
Speaker 2: just ken Ohio State run the ball, but ken Ohio
47:06
Speaker 2: State protect the pass or to throw it because there's
47:08
Speaker 2: still I don't know if Tennessee fans know that the
47:10
Speaker 2: High State offensive line is deciding on whether it's going
47:13
Speaker 2: to go into some sort of a flux and change
47:15
Speaker 2: some things. But we will be watching at least four
47:19
Speaker 2: Tennessee games and giving you some reactions to those and
47:21
Speaker 2: what we've seen, what we've learned. Like we've done in
47:23
Speaker 2: the past for playoff games, I think we watched five
47:26
Speaker 2: Georgia games.
47:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, four years ago. A couple of years ago the
47:28
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two season, we watched Missouri and Kentucky, which
47:32
Speaker 1: were close, close wins against not particularly great opponents that year.
47:38
Speaker 1: And then we also watch the Oregon game where they
47:40
Speaker 1: just lit orgon and fire in that first game of
47:42
Speaker 1: the season. And then at least one more we try
47:45
Speaker 1: and Tennessee we try, and it might have been there
47:47
Speaker 1: was a Tennessee yea ye, because that was down in
47:49
Speaker 1: Athens and they beat Tennessee pretty good. I think that
47:52
Speaker 1: year we try and watch a couple of good games
47:54
Speaker 1: and a couple of bad games to kind of get
47:55
Speaker 1: you a sense because if you watch the Ohio State
48:00
Speaker 1: ask a game, you're gonna come away thinking Ohio State
48:02
Speaker 1: would go three and eight in the SEC and then
48:05
Speaker 1: they would only go three and eight because they would
48:06
Speaker 1: forfeit the last one because they would be so badly defeated.
48:09
Speaker 1: And then if you watch the watch the Oregon game,
48:13
Speaker 1: watch the Indiana Yeah, but I mean watch the Indiana game,
48:15
Speaker 1: watch the the Penn State game, and you'll go, yeah, well,
48:18
Speaker 1: this Ohio State team is pretty good. So you're just
48:20
Speaker 1: week to week you get the sort of fluctuation with
48:23
Speaker 1: all these teams, and that's just congratulations. It's a group
48:25
Speaker 1: of eighteen to twenty three year old young men who
48:27
Speaker 1: are not the most consistent performers in the world.
48:29
Speaker 3: Well, the first one of those sometimes this week.
48:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, well.
48:33
Speaker 3: Together, Well the damage have there any other games?
48:40
Speaker 1: We have to we have to negotiate some marshmallow situations
48:42
Speaker 1: before we get anywhere anywhere close to agreeing on a
48:45
Speaker 1: Tennessee slumber party.
48:46
Speaker 4: The second half of the question, what do you think
48:48
Speaker 4: is Ohio State's biggest.
48:50
Speaker 1: Ohio State's biggest advantage? Home home field means home field
48:56
Speaker 1: is if that's the kind of thing that could have
49:01
Speaker 1: things spiral, because if the Ohio State's going on the
49:03
Speaker 1: road to Tennessee, if this is flip flopped, crowd noise,
49:07
Speaker 1: the the you know, just the overall momentum that comes
49:14
Speaker 1: with a home crowd that if things are really rolling.
49:17
Speaker 1: I mean, Ohio State had Indiana in hell for a
49:20
Speaker 1: good portion of that game, and that's a pretty good
49:22
Speaker 1: Indiana team. And Ohio State had Michigan really kind of rattled,
49:26
Speaker 1: except they handed them ten points and lost by three.
49:31
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's Ohio Stadium is. Ohio Stadium has
49:36
Speaker 1: this reputation as not the loudest place for you know,
49:40
Speaker 1: considering a size of it, and it's not as loud
49:42
Speaker 1: as Beaver Stadium at Penn State, for example, during a
49:45
Speaker 1: white out, but it can get pretty loud in there,
49:48
Speaker 1: and the atmosphere especially like you could just you could
49:53
Speaker 1: see stuff spiral. I'm not saying Ohio State's gonna win
49:56
Speaker 1: by forty points, but you could see stuff spiral with
49:59
Speaker 1: a young quarter back, loud crowd, whether that they haven't
50:03
Speaker 1: really had to deal with it before, you know, if
50:05
Speaker 1: it starts going bad, it could go real bad for Tennessee.
50:08
Speaker 1: That I think is the single biggest thing because I
50:10
Speaker 1: don't know that I look and I go, oh man,
50:12
Speaker 1: this Ohio State wide receiver unit is going to light
50:14
Speaker 1: the Tennessee secondary up. It's it's like, there's there's spots
50:17
Speaker 1: where this is the best passing attack Tennessee's face. So
50:20
Speaker 1: I think if you're going to look at something on
50:21
Speaker 1: the field, I'd look at that maybe.
50:24
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's where I am with the passing game.
50:27
Speaker 2: And but but it all starts with given Will Howard time,
50:30
Speaker 2: I do expect him to be much better than he
50:32
Speaker 2: was against Michigan just because of all of the things
50:35
Speaker 2: that went on in that game. This one, you would
50:38
Speaker 2: expect him to be ready for and more consistent. And
50:42
Speaker 2: as the majority of the season, he's been very consistent.
50:46
Speaker 2: And they move the ball and they score, and there's
50:48
Speaker 2: they need to be better in the red zone, and
50:50
Speaker 2: they've been because they've taken quite a dip there. But yeah,
50:53
Speaker 2: I would say the crowd and then the OSU receivers
50:57
Speaker 2: because they're pretty good.
50:58
Speaker 5: Yep, got a super don't forget to Tennessee is used
51:01
Speaker 5: to being on the other side. Heland is another cathedral
51:04
Speaker 5: of college football, so they know what noises maybe just
51:08
Speaker 5: in reverse all the ball with the super chat looking
51:11
Speaker 5: forward to coming to the shoot, enjoying the show so far.
51:15
Speaker 5: The Super chats Dwarf feed, How do you think Tennessee's
51:18
Speaker 5: defense compares to Michigan Good luck and go Big Orange.
51:22
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's that's interestingly. First of all, I'm really
51:25
Speaker 1: interested to see how many Tennessee fans come up because
51:27
Speaker 1: it's I mean, that's an easy drive. It's six hours,
51:29
Speaker 1: that's a that's a straight shot. I've been done a
51:31
Speaker 1: Knoxville a bunch of times over the last few years
51:33
Speaker 1: for various kids sports stuff, and that's a that's a
51:37
Speaker 1: very easy drive. And that's one that if Ohio State
51:39
Speaker 1: had gotten a first round by that's one that I
51:41
Speaker 1: would have looked at if they were you know, we
51:43
Speaker 1: were we were looking at that and going I'd be
51:44
Speaker 1: an easy trip. And Columbus is a big city where
51:48
Speaker 1: you can get there's plenty of hotel rooms. This is
51:50
Speaker 1: not state college where you've got to stay an hour
51:52
Speaker 1: and a half outside like Columbus.
51:54
Speaker 4: Yeah.
51:54
Speaker 1: This is not Stark Vegas. No, this yeah, sorry, yeah, no,
51:58
Speaker 1: this is this is a you know, major major American city.
52:02
Speaker 1: Blue Jackets might even be home if you want to,
52:03
Speaker 1: if you want to watch some middling NHL hockey.
52:07
Speaker 2: I will say, in terms of Tennessee's defense compared to Michigan.
52:11
Speaker 2: I wish I could tell you we just haven't watched
52:12
Speaker 2: any enough Tennessee at this point. We will definitely, Yeah,
52:16
Speaker 2: We're definitely going to watch more and have a better opinion.
52:20
Speaker 2: I Like I said earlier in the show, I do
52:22
Speaker 2: expect to see a very good defensive front and athletes
52:26
Speaker 2: running around at linebacker. And Ryan Dave mentioned the corner,
52:31
Speaker 2: So we'll see. I'm looking forward to finding out more
52:33
Speaker 2: because when you do this, it's we watch all of
52:37
Speaker 2: our state and all of Michigan, and we don't really
52:39
Speaker 2: have much time for anything else to like really focus on.
52:42
Speaker 2: So that's we're going to give a Tennessee to the
52:44
Speaker 2: Michigan treatment here moving forward.
52:46
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is always a little bit of a
52:48
Speaker 1: cram session where you can we watch a good bit
52:53
Speaker 1: of just college football broadly, but not you know, you're
52:55
Speaker 1: sitting down on the couch and watching a game. I
52:57
Speaker 1: watched the games last you know, yesterday, but you're not
53:00
Speaker 1: watching those necessarily in the same way you're watching And
53:02
Speaker 1: if you're sitting down at a computer and like logging
53:05
Speaker 1: stuff and you're tracking air yards of passes and that
53:07
Speaker 1: kind of stuff, it's a very different, very different things.
53:09
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think see Tuesday, I think yeah, maybe
53:14
Speaker 1: I think that. I think that there's a lot of
53:18
Speaker 1: similarity to the Michigan defense to the Tennessee defense, potentially,
53:23
Speaker 1: especially just in terms of the defensive line. That's that
53:26
Speaker 1: to me is where it sort of starts that conversation.
53:29
Speaker 1: Ohift did not handle that well against Michigan. They've handled
53:31
Speaker 1: it well against other teams. If they've played Penn State
53:34
Speaker 1: and they handled Penn State, had a pretty good pass rush,
53:36
Speaker 1: and they handled that, praise it pretty well, and they
53:38
Speaker 1: handled Oregon reasonably well. They put up thirty points at Botson.
53:42
Speaker 1: So this is this is a team that could handle
53:45
Speaker 1: a Tennessee or Michigan defense. Will they will? We'll all
53:49
Speaker 1: find out together on the twenty first, won't we.
53:51
Speaker 5: The last one I have in the queue is another
53:54
Speaker 5: one from Els, who's abo. I want to know the
53:56
Speaker 5: actual mood of the players. Are they really together for
53:59
Speaker 5: this playoff?
53:59
Speaker 3: Right?
54:00
Speaker 4: Perhaps they shattered after the Michigan laws.
54:04
Speaker 2: Well, I mean the thing about shattering is if you
54:06
Speaker 2: got enough glue, you can put it all back together.
54:09
Speaker 3: Yeah.
54:10
Speaker 2: Well, but yeah, it's very Nay said. You're not just
54:13
Speaker 2: gonna bounce right back from that and get right back
54:15
Speaker 2: on the field. So but seeing the team, we will
54:19
Speaker 2: talk to them eventually and they're all going to say
54:21
Speaker 2: the right things. But the only way you'll know is
54:24
Speaker 2: when you see them on Saturday night December twenty first,
54:27
Speaker 2: if they've truly bought in or if you know, like
54:30
Speaker 2: starters start heading to the portal like I'm not expecting that. No,
54:33
Speaker 2: but you'll know they're gonna say all the right things.
54:36
Speaker 2: They're gonna have that look in their eye, they're gonna
54:38
Speaker 2: pain the yours back, but the results are going to
54:40
Speaker 2: be the results, and that's that's when you'll have a
54:42
Speaker 2: much better idea. I wish I could tell you like,
54:44
Speaker 2: oh no, from what we're hearing, and we will because
54:47
Speaker 2: you know this is this is brand news, so we'll
54:49
Speaker 2: we'll hear more.
54:50
Speaker 3: And you know what we're what we've been told is
54:52
Speaker 3: that the.
54:53
Speaker 2: Mood is good and that they they're ready to get
54:56
Speaker 2: back at it, and the leaders are hungry to be
54:58
Speaker 2: back out on the field and get get those things going.
55:01
Speaker 3: So like I've not heard like anything like well, why
55:05
Speaker 3: are we even playing this game? Nobody's up right?
55:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I don't I don't think this is a
55:09
Speaker 1: lost locker room situation or anything like that. It's you know,
55:13
Speaker 1: there was some conversations the week after the game, and
55:20
Speaker 1: you know, and you kind of get through that and
55:22
Speaker 1: you work through your stages of grief and then you
55:24
Speaker 1: get to acceptance and then you move on and it
55:26
Speaker 1: sort of feels like you've sort of reached acceptance and
55:30
Speaker 1: you just have to keep you know, keep progressing and
55:32
Speaker 1: keep you know, keep keep getting just if they if
55:36
Speaker 1: they can figure out the offensive line, if if you
55:39
Speaker 1: give me the choice between Ohio State is the vibes
55:42
Speaker 1: are great, and Ohio State the offensive line is better.
55:46
Speaker 1: I you know, I think most intelligent Ohio State fans
55:48
Speaker 1: are going to choose and the offensive line is better
55:50
Speaker 1: because that's probably going to make as much or more
55:53
Speaker 1: difference as the vibes.
55:54
Speaker 3: Vibes are nice, but offensive line is better.
55:57
Speaker 4: From Brandon Boy, you put it separate from the question.
56:01
Speaker 5: The question is comment, I hope if we're pulling away
56:04
Speaker 5: with this in the fourth quarter, proud chance b one
56:07
Speaker 5: g the sec chance.
56:10
Speaker 1: No, you have to you have to do sec you
56:12
Speaker 1: have to. No, that's not even that's not even thank
56:14
Speaker 1: you for the super chats. Yeah, you have to chance
56:17
Speaker 1: sec ironic ironic sec chanting is it's like playing neck
56:21
Speaker 1: when you're beating l s U. Like you have to
56:23
Speaker 1: take their thing and you have to like yeah, like
56:27
Speaker 1: play mister bright Tide when you beat Michigan. Like these
56:30
Speaker 1: play jump around. They've done that a bunch They jump
56:33
Speaker 1: play jump around when they beat Wisconsin a bunch of
56:34
Speaker 1: times in the past. Like that's that's how you do it.
56:37
Speaker 3: Yep, No, completely agree, that's that's what you should do.
56:39
Speaker 3: That's that should be the plan. The first get the
56:42
Speaker 3: game one, but first the hard parts, all right.
56:46
Speaker 1: So.
56:47
Speaker 4: Hull the ball again.
56:48
Speaker 5: I think it's a shame that neither team has ever
56:51
Speaker 5: faced each other at home.
56:53
Speaker 4: Maybe this can and become a great riot.
56:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's the funny thing. They've only played once
56:57
Speaker 1: in history, and that was at that Citrus Bowl and
56:59
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety five season. For two teams that are
57:02
Speaker 1: as consequential in the sport, I mean, this is like
57:06
Speaker 1: I think I think General Neiland probably overlapped with Wood
57:09
Speaker 1: Hayes a little bit. I think Neiland might have gone
57:11
Speaker 1: into the fifties. You know, these are two of the
57:14
Speaker 1: most consequential programs in the sport. In you know, top
57:17
Speaker 1: ten teams, and by a lot of different metrics, they're
57:21
Speaker 1: six hours away. It's like, how have they not played
57:24
Speaker 1: at some point in the past and at home and home.
57:26
Speaker 1: There was a home and home scheduled in the late
57:28
Speaker 1: twenty tens that got canceled because of that that I
57:32
Speaker 1: think that might have been canceled because of the Big
57:35
Speaker 1: ten to twelve scheduling alliance, which then didn't actually happen close.
57:40
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's there have been a couple of those
57:42
Speaker 1: series that you were like really looking forward to, like
57:44
Speaker 1: oh Man, and then they get canceled. I was really
57:47
Speaker 1: looking forward to going out to Washington this year, and
57:49
Speaker 1: then it got canceled because Washington is now in the
57:51
Speaker 1: Big ten, So now it's not a non conference schedule anymore.
57:53
Speaker 1: So next year, next year Washington. But yeah, I was
57:56
Speaker 1: if this was, you know, if Tennessee's resume was better
57:59
Speaker 1: than Ohio was dates and this was an eight nine
58:01
Speaker 1: game in the other direction, I'd be thrilled. Going on.
58:04
Speaker 1: Neil and I again, I've been down in Knoxville before,
58:07
Speaker 1: I've been to I've been to Knoxville a bunch of times.
58:10
Speaker 1: I made a point to like, you know, we're down
58:12
Speaker 1: there for a figure skating competition and I'm like, we're
58:15
Speaker 1: going to go for drive kids, and went over went
58:18
Speaker 1: over to Neil and saw the uh yeah, saw the campus,
58:21
Speaker 1: went saw the sal Stadium was closed so I couldn't
58:23
Speaker 1: go in, but I was really you know, it's one
58:26
Speaker 1: of those things where you know, you're in Baton Rouge,
58:28
Speaker 1: you want to go see Death Valley, You're in tuscoll
58:30
Speaker 1: so you want to go see Bright Denny, Like yeah,
58:32
Speaker 1: it's one of those stadiums. It's like, oh, I'd love
58:33
Speaker 1: to see a game here sometime.
58:34
Speaker 3: Yeah.
58:35
Speaker 2: And if you've grown up watching any college football, like
58:37
Speaker 2: like Tennessee's uniforms are known, I'm looking forward to seeing
58:40
Speaker 2: the whites in Ohio Stadium and that's going to be
58:44
Speaker 2: I think everybody's looking forward to it. And again just
58:46
Speaker 2: for the players, the fans, like everybody's coming out of this,
58:50
Speaker 2: you know coma and it's like, Okay, here's a game.
58:53
Speaker 3: I can get excited about it. I think people will.
58:55
Speaker 1: And you just look around the whole first round. It's like,
58:58
Speaker 1: this is a bunch of teams you never see play
59:00
Speaker 1: in places, you never see them play in weather that
59:03
Speaker 1: you never see them play I mean even the one
59:05
Speaker 1: that I think people are probably the most like Indiana
59:09
Speaker 1: Notre Dame. Those are two teams. I don't remember the
59:10
Speaker 1: last time Indiana and Notre Dame played. Notre Dame plays
59:13
Speaker 1: Purdue a bunch, but I don't know that they've played
59:16
Speaker 1: in decades. And those are two teams in the same state.
59:19
Speaker 1: And boy, would the Indiana Hoosiers love love love to
59:24
Speaker 1: end Notre Dame season?
59:25
Speaker 3: Do you think would have anything to say about that?
59:28
Speaker 5: Ninety one for last time that they have played twenty
59:33
Speaker 5: three five and one?
59:34
Speaker 2: How did Anthony Thompson probably no, actually passed Anthony Thompson
59:39
Speaker 2: Alex Smith.
59:39
Speaker 1: Alex Smith would have been there because he was like
59:42
Speaker 1: ninety three or ninety four was his last year. But yeah,
59:45
Speaker 1: that's you know, that's a that's a great intrastate rivalry,
59:49
Speaker 1: which is not a rivalry because I haven't played it
59:51
Speaker 1: in thirty something years. Imagine in nineteen ninety one telling someone, hey,
59:57
Speaker 1: hang on, just wait thirty just wait thirty three years now,
1:00:02
Speaker 1: is Notre Dame gonna win any major Bowl games between
1:00:05
Speaker 1: now and then? Yes, but it's gonna be in nineteen
1:00:06
Speaker 1: ninety four and then not ever again after that. But
1:00:09
Speaker 1: Indiana is going to be amazing. When never for the
1:00:13
Speaker 1: next thirty years, you gotta have a global pandemic, then
1:00:15
Speaker 1: one year and then a couple of years. And boy,
1:00:19
Speaker 1: if you want to make someone from nineteen ninety one
1:00:21
Speaker 1: field not great about the future of the world, there
1:00:23
Speaker 1: you go, not great up the future of the world
1:00:25
Speaker 1: or the future of Notre Dame football. But we'll see.
1:00:27
Speaker 1: But that's that's the one that you look at and
1:00:30
Speaker 1: it's like, eh, and Clemson has to go up to Texas, Texas,
1:00:35
Speaker 1: that's down. Sorry, but Clemson and Texas those are two
1:00:39
Speaker 1: hund those are two helmet games, you know, helmet teams.
1:00:42
Speaker 1: You've got SMU coming up to Penn State, Like, what's
1:00:46
Speaker 1: what's that going to look like? We'll will sm you
1:00:48
Speaker 1: be able to play in cold weather? Will Penn State
1:00:50
Speaker 1: get you know, James Franklin gets a playoff.
1:00:52
Speaker 3: Win, Will James Franklin.
1:00:53
Speaker 1: Will James Franklin get a well, Will James Franklin James
1:00:56
Speaker 1: frank Will James Franklin go for two for some stupid
1:00:58
Speaker 1: reason for yeah, yeah, okay, so all right, so we
1:01:05
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1:01:09
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1:01:11
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1:01:13
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1:01:34
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